For the first one, you don’t need an acronym. You just need to remember to start with the lower row of 3, say the rules aloud, and work your way up. For the second, not only do the diagonals make a pseudo-Sudoku, but the inner square, the corners, and each quarter-square do as well.
For those still watching this video and curious (spoilers): - There are only 2 solutions (the one Jim presented, and the same thing with bottom ace and right jack switched). - The solutions can always be found logically if you proceed by elimination. Start with the central card (3rd column, 3rd row) and deduce that it can only be a king. Then find the queens (only 3 combinations left once you have the king) and prove that 2 of them don't work. Once you have 2 queens and a king the solution is obvious.
I couldn't find a traditional deck of cards so I substituted them with spare Yugioh cards. Answer: Row 1: Blue Eyes White Dragon Row 2: Wingweaver, Token, Wingweaver Row 3: Monster Reborn, Blue Eyes White Dragon, Monster Reborn Row 4: Token
Took me about 10 minutes at most. I just love these sorts of puzzles, where an unspoken assumption is the only thing keeping you from the answer -- outside-the-box problem-solving is always going to be vital, both in puzzles like this and in the real world.
Of all the intros of scam school and the modern rogue, this small simple few lines is the best... It captures the essence of both shows so well. Love you guys from the spikey hair days all the way to the bad handle bar shave. 🥰🥰🥰🥰
I don't understand the rules of the second one. Is it that no suits can be in the same row (vertically, horizontally, diagonally) AND no alike cards e.g. no aces next to each other? If yes, then the solution doesn't work since the alike cards do cross diagonally but if no then it works fine.
brian brushwood is a freak genius getting the second one because i couldn't, but I stumbled upon the answer to the first one and I was so happy thanks for the sweet puzzles Jim
Discovery bought Revision3 and started a new network called Test Tube. They liked Scam School so much that they moved us over to the new network and started sprinkling every episode with unicorn dust. I think it makes us look very shiny.
Scam School is produced and owned by Discovery, but I write, host, and executive produce the episodes. If you're seeing posts from the Scam School channel, it's most likely me. -Brian
Oh Diamond Jim, you have cost me some sleep with these puzzles of yours. But know that I rose to the challenge! It may have took me 2 1/2 hours but I figured out your first puzzle, and after that the second one was child's play. But well done indeed.
@Brian Brushwood Is there a certain amount of Aces queens jacks and kings to place? Or do you just pull out all of each and put however many you want down?
thats awesome that you comment on these man the first one was pretty awesome and the 2nd one was pretty easy but still cool that it has been around since the early 1600s. keep up these great videos man i love watching them and pulling off some of these scams for some free beers
Thank you for the video! Took a few hours (like the guy said), but I was able to figure it out. Kept getting one away as I was working it out, but what really tipped it off for me is realizing that not every king needed to border an ace, not every queen needed to border a king, etc. Once I realized this, it was a matter of figuring out where to put the Queen's first. I decided to stick them in the first and third positions on the second row, because this allowed me to place the king's above and below the second queen (in position 3 of the 2nd row). Once I did that, I could position the Aces, then finally, the Jack's. As an aside, it turns out there are two solutions to the puzzle. Thanks again for the video, I really enjoyed this puzzle!
took me a while but i figured it out by myself. the trick was figuring out what can go in the spot that has 4 faces bordering other cards...once you decide that, you can then work arround it and place all the other cards.
Does the setup to the first puzzle matter? Do I just randomly put any two cards in the order shown? Can the person pick one of the face down cards and use it?
Anyone notice that when Diamond Jim shows the solution to the first trick its actually wrong. He has 2 diamonds (like cards) next to each other. King and Jack. King of diamonds and king of hearts should be switched to make solution correct I believe. Check out at 7 minute mark
For the second, any square bigger than a 2x2 will also have all suits and values in their corners. The 4 corner 2x2 squares also have all suits and values.
The first one took me about 10 min to do mainly since I had to find a deck of cards and go through it and then by the time I went through it I had everything laid out and thought I had it but couldn't remember what the parameters of the puzzle was.
Uh-oh... Somebody wasn't listening to the rules :-O Rules were that every line *of four cards* couldn't have a repeat of suit or value. (Two cards near a corner don't make a line of four, as best I can tell)
Rules Each Ace borders a King (secret Each King doesn't border an Ace). Each King borders a Queen. Each Queen borders a Jack (secret Jack doesn't matter). The cards are set in the formation of One card at top 3 cards under it linked to top at 3rd Under that 3 more cards linked at the 2nd card above with it's first so that the 3rd row sticks out with one card 4th row is the last card linked at middle. Looking from side one card going sideways. Under it two cards with one going lower like number 7. Under that 4 sideways cards going straight down one above and one lower than the filled in two. Last goes sideways same as the card that created the number 7 in aisle two. . The answer acronym is KOJO AJAJ with Queens taking on the O sound as the Q kinda looks like an O.
At first I thought both puzzles are easily beatable. But there seems to be a hidden rule in the first puzzle that you can have only two of each value. I started with jacks in all the dead ends because who cares about Jacks, then all you got to make sure is that the Queen and Ace dont touch and that the Queen is near one of the Jacks.
two of each. They tell you the whole kojoakaj thing that tells you where everything goes, which also means it tells you how many of each card to use AND they show you how to set it out so you can count them as well...
Got the first one in a couple minutes. The key is to realize that when it says Each King borders a Queen, it doesn't have to be a different queen. By Row: K. QJQ, AKA, J
I wanted to try the first one but you didn't tell us how many Kings, Queens, Jacks and Aces were being used. I had to pause it on the close up of your attempt to see it was 2 of each.
The second challenge was pretty easy, and can be mathematically solved without the guesswork. I think the guy in the video just luckily picked the right cards to put down.
I would say the Queen is touching TWO aces diagonally in solution? Or I got it on my first try. Re-do diagonal rule or this won't work as a solution, unless the diagonal rule is different from touching that way.
WOW I tried both these games before the answers were revealed and completely bombed the first one.. but the second one - I ended up with the exact same layout, card by card, as Brian did.. I know it's not THAT mind blowing, but it still impressed me :)
+Paul Rader AH KS QD JC JD QC KH AS KC AD JS QH QS JH AC KD On the first puzzle, I was going with the idea that there didn't have to be two cards of each rank.
Almost 3 years later... still watching old episodes with Diamond Jim.... I love when these 2 get together for some awesomeness.
i love how it was pretty much Diamond Jim vs Brian. the other 2 didnt really have a say or really do anything.
For the first one, you don’t need an acronym. You just need to remember to start with the lower row of 3, say the rules aloud, and work your way up.
For the second, not only do the diagonals make a pseudo-Sudoku, but the inner square, the corners, and each quarter-square do as well.
For those still watching this video and curious (spoilers):
- There are only 2 solutions (the one Jim presented, and the same thing with bottom ace and right jack switched).
- The solutions can always be found logically if you proceed by elimination. Start with the central card (3rd column, 3rd row) and deduce that it can only be a king. Then find the queens (only 3 combinations left once you have the king) and prove that 2 of them don't work. Once you have 2 queens and a king the solution is obvious.
I couldn't find a traditional deck of cards so I substituted them with spare Yugioh cards.
Answer:
Row 1: Blue Eyes White Dragon
Row 2: Wingweaver, Token, Wingweaver
Row 3: Monster Reborn, Blue Eyes White Dragon, Monster Reborn
Row 4: Token
brilliant.
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You can’t even find a godamn pack of cards but you have yuigioh cards
@@cyruscheng499 😂
Took me about 10 minutes at most. I just love these sorts of puzzles, where an unspoken assumption is the only thing keeping you from the answer -- outside-the-box problem-solving is always going to be vital, both in puzzles like this and in the real world.
congrats!
Of all the intros of scam school and the modern rogue, this small simple few lines is the best...
It captures the essence of both shows so well.
Love you guys from the spikey hair days all the way to the bad handle bar shave.
🥰🥰🥰🥰
Glad you like these, man.
This is my most fav youtube channel to come to when i need to learn a new trick to up my status,
thanks,
The Great Brian
I don't understand the rules of the second one. Is it that no suits can be in the same row (vertically, horizontally, diagonally) AND no alike cards e.g. no aces next to each other? If yes, then the solution doesn't work since the alike cards do cross diagonally but if no then it works fine.
There were hearts touching diagnally on the second puzzle
brian brushwood is a freak genius getting the second one because i couldn't, but I stumbled upon the answer to the first one and I was so happy
thanks for the sweet puzzles Jim
glad you like 'em!
Discovery bought Revision3 and started a new network called Test Tube. They liked Scam School so much that they moved us over to the new network and started sprinkling every episode with unicorn dust. I think it makes us look very shiny.
1:08 pride and joy, Stevie Ray Vaughan in the back ground
Anyone else notice supermassive black hole by muse in the back ground at 8:00?
+Jesse Harris i was like wtfaaaaaaaak moooooose
Also pride and joy by SRV in the beginning
Scam School is produced and owned by Discovery, but I write, host, and executive produce the episodes. If you're seeing posts from the Scam School channel, it's most likely me. -Brian
big fan btw Brian, love watching scam school every week all the way over here in lovely old Britain
That makes no sense. How can YOU following my other stuff teach anything to OTHER people? :-P
Oh Diamond Jim, you have cost me some sleep with these puzzles of yours. But know that I rose to the challenge! It may have took me 2 1/2 hours but I figured out your first puzzle, and after that the second one was child's play. But well done indeed.
@Brian Brushwood Is there a certain amount of Aces queens jacks and kings to place? Or do you just pull out all of each and put however many you want down?
Yes! A Scamschool puzzle I can finally solve!!
I just used a piece of paper writing a,k,q,j in the appropriate places. It took about 10 minutes for me to finally figure it out. Awesome puzzle!
thats awesome that you comment on these man the first one was pretty awesome and the 2nd one was pretty easy but still cool that it has been around since the early 1600s. keep up these great videos man i love watching them and pulling off some of these scams for some free beers
Thank you for the video! Took a few hours (like the guy said), but I was able to figure it out. Kept getting one away as I was working it out, but what really tipped it off for me is realizing that not every king needed to border an ace, not every queen needed to border a king, etc.
Once I realized this, it was a matter of figuring out where to put the Queen's first. I decided to stick them in the first and third positions on the second row, because this allowed me to place the king's above and below the second queen (in position 3 of the 2nd row). Once I did that, I could position the Aces, then finally, the Jack's.
As an aside, it turns out there are two solutions to the puzzle.
Thanks again for the video, I really enjoyed this puzzle!
I LOVE Brian cuz of his funny humour and the hair makes it work!
Discovery bought Revision3 last year.
what is the song that starts playing at 07:36 ?
took me a while but i figured it out by myself. the trick was figuring out what can go in the spot that has 4 faces bordering other cards...once you decide that, you can then work arround it and place all the other cards.
Understanding the goddamed instructions is a puzzle in and of itself...
Great puzzles! The second one seems to me like a playing card version of Sudoku, clever!
Does the setup to the first puzzle matter? Do I just randomly put any two cards in the order shown? Can the person pick one of the face down cards and use it?
You sell yourself short, sir... I just say you're super smart!
BOTTLECAPS!
Where can I find the explanation on the "test tube" logo? What happened to revision3?
every time I watch one of these videos I can't help but think "CRIME SCHOOL"
Love the Moontower Saloon :D
and the trick :X
+Richard Rominger it's a great space. We should get back there, soon.
Scam School Meet you there ;D
+Scam School u had the ace and queen diagonally touching when u finished
Yeah, sorry. I thought that was inherently clear. My bad.
Anyone notice that when Diamond Jim shows the solution to the first trick its actually wrong. He has 2 diamonds (like cards) next to each other. King and Jack. King of diamonds and king of hearts should be switched to make solution correct I believe. Check out at 7 minute mark
He said nothing about suits for the first one
Larry Garden Suits don't matter, it's just the value that matters
For the second, any square bigger than a 2x2 will also have all suits and values in their corners. The 4 corner 2x2 squares also have all suits and values.
no cookie! But here's footrub.
The first one took me about 10 min to do mainly since I had to find a deck of cards and go through it and then by the time I went through it I had everything laid out and thought I had it but couldn't remember what the parameters of the puzzle was.
The second one took me about a full minute.
Uh-oh... Somebody wasn't listening to the rules :-O
Rules were that every line *of four cards* couldn't have a repeat of suit or value. (Two cards near a corner don't make a line of four, as best I can tell)
Agreed. I felt the exact same way about "The Wolverine," "Man on Wire," "The Avengers," and "Batman Begins." :-P
Rules Each Ace borders a King (secret Each King doesn't border an Ace). Each King borders a Queen. Each Queen borders a Jack (secret Jack doesn't matter). The cards are set in the formation of
One card at top
3 cards under it linked to top at 3rd Under that 3 more cards linked at the 2nd card above with it's first so that the 3rd row sticks out with one card
4th row is the last card linked at middle. Looking from side one card going sideways. Under it two cards with one going lower like number 7. Under that 4 sideways cards going straight down one above and one lower than the filled in two. Last goes sideways same as the card that created the number 7 in aisle two. .
The answer acronym is KOJO
AJAJ with Queens taking on the O sound as the Q kinda looks like an O.
well put!
Did anyone else notice Pride and Joy by Stevie Ray Vaughan in the background? lol
Phenomenal puzzles
These were great brain twisters
Oh i got the first one but it doesn't matter that the queen or a jack is at the bottom right?
Solved second puzzle too!
9:45 best song ever in the backround!!!
When you accidentally find a separate way to do the first puzzle.. XD
that's exactly what I did too, with 2 kings diagonal of each other, jack on very top, and 3 aces on the far left right and bottom cards
That one was a good 15-20 minutes before I cried uncle.
Just tried the 2nd one, got it in under 5 minutes. Wish I could share it on here
you dont use all of the cards so which face cards do i use? im confused
I don't know who the girl is or if you even know her, but she is an absolute smoke show. Bring her back, Shwood!
seriously that was an awesome puzzle! but after I re-read the rules, I finish the puzzle in 5:16 seconds!
At first I thought both puzzles are easily beatable. But there seems to be a hidden rule in the first puzzle that you can have only two of each value. I started with jacks in all the dead ends because who cares about Jacks, then all you got to make sure is that the Queen and Ace dont touch and that the Queen is near one of the Jacks.
Have... have you ever actually set foot in a bar?
two of each. They tell you the whole kojoakaj thing that tells you where everything goes, which also means it tells you how many of each card to use AND they show you how to set it out so you can count them as well...
is there mor than one way to solve the first one? because i have something that is different but it works
I got it. I just started with 'no queen borders an ace'. It leads to that diagonal pattern. The rest kinda fell in place.
Thank you!
lol I love the outro. Bottlecaps!
Scam School AND Stevie Ray Vaughan in the background? YES!
oh... oh dear: if you're doing fists, you're doing it really really wrong!
btw... who sing "Scam school go down(x2)" at the intro?
Got the first one in a couple minutes. The key is to realize that when it says Each King borders a Queen, it doesn't have to be a different queen. By Row: K. QJQ, AKA, J
Why does "border" only mean horizontally?
Hey Brian! please come to Australia mate and I know you will have an amazing time!
I wanted to try the first one but you didn't tell us how many Kings, Queens, Jacks and Aces were being used. I had to pause it on the close up of your attempt to see it was 2 of each.
Brain when will you come to Kansas or more specifically Kansas city or Missouri?
MUSE!!!!! Couldnt focus on the trick hahaahah xD
Didn't he say the same can't be diagonal??
Nope. They cannot border, which means horizontally or vertically. There are no restrictions on diagonally placed cards.
if you are talking about the second puzzle, he means the two main diagonals of four diagonals, not any two diagonally spaced cards.
The second challenge was pretty easy, and can be mathematically solved without the guesswork. I think the guy in the video just luckily picked the right cards to put down.
You don't fool me, Turdfire Kickerlicker!!! :-P
xoxo,
Brian
I like how now no one comments to help skip the ads!
Your video, hog away ;) I enjoy watching the convos, lol.
in the second puzzle can the same suits be in the same row?
he doesnt say that, literally, but i feel like the suits are cards alike...
Brian gets owned.... MUST SEE
I would say the Queen is touching TWO aces diagonally in solution? Or I got it on my first try. Re-do diagonal rule or this won't work as a solution, unless the diagonal rule is different from touching that way.
WOW I tried both these games before the answers were revealed and completely bombed the first one.. but the second one - I ended up with the exact same layout, card by card, as Brian did.. I know it's not THAT mind blowing, but it still impressed me :)
+Paul Rader well done!
+Paul Rader
AH KS QD JC
JD QC KH AS
KC AD JS QH
QS JH AC KD
On the first puzzle, I was going with the idea that there didn't have to be two cards of each rank.
Which? The spiked?
Strange... I didn't get your answer over twitter...
I heard one of the rules as "Each jack borders a queen" instead of the other way around and then proceeded to prove that it was impossible.
OMG my favorite song started playing at 9:05
I love Diamond Jim Tyler!!
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This is great!
I'm late to the party, but what is the song at the 9:15 ish mark.
Am I the only one who is really glad that I can hear Stevie Ray Vaughan - Pride and Joy in the background? XD
how so?
Hey, it's Pride and Joy by Stevie Ray! @ 3:10 (ish) Sweet song to rock out to on the guitar. ;D
it just count for the rows with 4 card. the little diagonals, such as the ones you mentioned dont count for that puzzle.
Oh, I see. Thanks for clarifying things up for me. :)
No wonder I couldn't solve that puzzle :P
I can see Diamond Jim Tyler Jr under the table.
The second puzzle was so easy!