Why Doesn't Red Dead Redemption 2 Come To PS5 and Xbox Series At 60fps?
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3 amazing games that deserve to make the jump to 60fps on PS5:
1. Bloodborne
2. Red Dead Redemption II
3. Batman: Arkham Knight
Excuse my ignorance, but can't Arkham Knight run in 60 FPS on PC?
@@ВладиславБулаев-л3эit runs on pc at 60fps easily
@@ВладиславБулаев-л3эI think they meant on the PS5
@@ВладиславБулаев-л3э you’re good. Arkham Knight can run up to 90fps at max settings on PC.
I would not remake Bloodborne, but i think a remastered version 60fps would be incredible
No 60FPS in RDR2 is the only thing stopping me from replaying it.
So you like playing at 30 fps?
@@xcastdx No, he's saying that the fact that it does NOT run at 60 fps is stopping him from playing it again.
It's one sentence, he didn't use a comma.
@@rafox66 dame un pedazo de ese chocolate
@@xcastdx Lo siento, no entiendo.
Same here bro. I thought about replaying it not too long ago but then I decided to hold back for when they eventually make the upgrade. I doubt it’ll be just a 60fps upgrade, they’ll have to make an actual PS5 edition like they did with GTA 5.
Sick of hearing excuses made for Rockstar. When you have games like Forbidden West on PS5 looking incredible and running performance mode flawlessly, I don't want to hear about a game made for last gen, five years ago being too difficult. They release half assed ports, and then give everyone what they want after the fallout.
Moreover, there should be no excuse for a console that is more than twice as fast as last gen being unable to run a last gen game twice as fast.
Stop talking nonsense and start thinking. Rockstar is a private commercial company owned by Take-Two, they do NOT work specifically for Sony and have their own interests. Money is a god, like it or not. That's all.
they just dont care lol they released this in 2018 and Evil West was releaseon 2022. What the f is that comparison OfCourse it will look better and perform better because red dead was not made for ps5. They are probably focus on gta 6.
They wouldn't even need to remaster it, just unlock the framerate, god damn it. It would certainly go to 60 and up. Can't be that hard
Not trying to take a cooperations side especially someone as rich as rockstar but rdr2 is 10 times more advanced than forbidden west. Yes forbidden west looks better but all the npcs don’t move they stay in the same place, red dead npcs have a whole life programmed(go to work, go to the bar, go home, wake up repeat)
Rdr2 has animal ecosystems, a living breathing world with dynamic events, npcs that remember what you do and who you are even unscripted events, an online component, etc
On a programming side it would be hell compared to every other open world game today..
Should they do it and stop being lazy? Absolutely
The longer you make people suffer, the more money you make when you sell them the cure.
damn
Amen 🙌
It's BS but people will pay full price for a next gen RDR2 and i know for a fact that people would pay $100 for GTA6 if they set the price at that.
Hell, people pay +400% from scalpers because they want stuff now.
GTA6 could release at $400 and people would still buy it.
@@deetsitmeisterjd amen
Just like lumbago
Being able to play RDR2 in 4K 60FPS was one of the main reasons I bought a new PC. RDR2 is a once in a lifetime game - I'm pretty sure it'll end up being Rockstar's crowning achievement when all is said and done. Everyone should get a chance to play this thing in peak form - it feels criminal to not spend just a little effort to touch this thing up when you consider the painstaking agony that went into creating it.
good way to put it
Ain’t that the truth!
rdr2 is hands down their best game to date but i hope they surpass it one day.. who knows.. gta6 is looking to be pretty awesome with all the new tech going into it.. going to be hard to beat the heart that's in rdr2 though..
@@8K240hz never been a GTA guy (except the occasional rampage phase in San Andreas back in the day) but Rockstar’s engine was totally insane when the made RDR2, it’s such a technical masterpiece, improving on all aspects of the engine from GTA 5, I can only imagine how great the quality will be for GTA 6 just from a technical stand point even though I’m not super into GTA.
I agree. And honestly, I could care less about the resolution. Just patch in a 60fps patch. Both these current gen consoles can brute force higher that 30fps and are both capable of VRR. I don't understand the issue?
A free 60fps patch is NOT how rockstar rolls. I'm pretty confident they are going to release a "next gen version" instead, like with GTA 5. Not just 60fps, but also the upgraded ultra settings from the PC version - which add up to make the game look way better. Maybe even add ray traced reflections. And they will charge $60 for it
RT is such a gimmick unless you have hardware worth a small fortune..
or they will just charge current version 60 bucks and do no work, even more profitable
Probably the same price as the ps5 version of gta5 to upgrade.
The actual reason is much stupider. Apparently, there were already plans for a next-gen upgrade that got scrapped because the Trilogy bombed.
@@NRobbi42 if grove st games were planned to make it then good riddance.
Because they wanna sell a “definitive edition”.
So we can buy again the same fucking game again and again.
I dont see such for RDR2 lol
I haven't played the game cause I'm still holding off for a patch - there's no way I'm playing it at 30fps on the current consoles...
Alas, the lazy bums that be R* haven't produced one even though every one and their Witcher mother have offered a patch for free for their games.
Everyone but R*...
@@techsamurai11I'm glad i made a gaming rig..
Completely different experience on PC with 120 FPS & NVIDIA'S DLSS.
eww imagine playing rdr2 even once, let alone over and over
@@Otto45I'd be fine with 60fps on a console. obviously it's the best experience on a PC but consoles do make it easy to play unless the developer won't update the game.
As seen with the GTA Trilogy, the executives in charge of these decisions have not proven themselves to be the smartest men.
Men? Is 2023. Men isn’t even real. Is just a social construct. LGBT 🏳️🌈 is a thing and tbh everyone is a little bit LGBT.
Facts.
Agreed 💯
Unfortunately they won't get my money for Red Dead Redemption 2 because I haven't bought the game yet exactly because it hasn't received the "next-gen" consoles update/version...
I've been waiting already for about 3 years, I still haven't lost all hope it will be released at some point.
Maybe just some months after the GTA VI trailer we'll get this December.
People* There are women too
They could easily add a performance mode without any extra optimization. Just adjust the resolution to a dynamic 1800p cap the frame rate at 60fps with slightly increase visual settings. Hell they could keep the same visual settings and it would still look great.
Hacked PS5 with custom patch unlocking framerate gives almost constant 60 fps in RDR2 with nothing more done to it.
@@korinogaroBut it occupies the PS4 Pro version, which is 1440p
@@unyimusic it's 1920x2160
@@unyimusicand the checkerboard rendering looks horrible
@@protocolindao975yeah, it looks bad when compared to the native 4k that the xbox one x had. They should've gone for native 1440p instead of checkerboard 4k.
A phenomenal game. For me, the best game Rockstar has ever released so far
Its an amazing game definitely one of the best ever made
facts
And this just proves that 60fps is not needed. Its still considered one of the best open world games ever and it only runs at 30fps
Best game they'll ever release
There are so many things I don't need but I WANT! So having a high end PC fixes at least one of them. (I got a PS5 too). You should see it at 4K 100fps+ on a 144hz....amazing...but now I want an OLED.@@JayCee-tp2gv
This is sad--Red Dead Redemption 2 is easily one of the greatest games of all time. Guess a simply uncapping wouldn't lead to a steady 60, because it's still graphically relevant. But still.
What makes me more mad is they dropped a 60fps update on red dead port but cant give a ps5 verison of red dead 2
I have a hard time seeing how Rockstar (with all its resources and money) can't just allocate a small team to even just unlock the framerate and boost resolution (on ps5) This game was one of my all time favourites and still looks visually jaw dropping. I'm more excited about the idea of a next gen patch for RDR2 then gta 6. It seems like a hugely wasted opportunity for them not to release their usual 'next gen' version and charging us all twice for the game.
It would be easy for them to just uncap fps to 60. But also increasing the resolution would require a decent amount of work and Rockstar likes to pretend like rdr2 doesn't exist
i absolutely agree with you
@@nuckerball1259Boosting the resolution requires work. But making the resolution dynamic, allows the next gen hardware to run it at a consistently higher resolution just like the Series X does right now with RDR2.
So many other companies release these patches, Rockstar are just assholes.
There’s a few reasons why.
1.) Rockstar has their best teams focused on GTA VI right now. Anyone talented enough to work on a tentpole title like RDR2 needs to be on GTA VI.
2.) Even if Rockstar had a 60 FPS 4k version of RDR2 ready to go, it would make no sense to release it now, as it may steal market share from GTA VI.
3.) Thoughtfully programming the haptics and triggers could require a producer or director, especially if they incorporate them at key moments like fist fights or even cutscenes.
4.) It’s not just SP that needs the work - the devs will also need to QC the multiplayer for RDR2 to ensure there aren’t bugs that could allow players to cheat or wreak havoc on the in-game economy. Imagine if an existing feature or functionality was coded to the 30 FPS framerate in multiplayer and needed to be reworked from the ground up.
Hopefully we get an RDR2 re-release a couple of years after GTA VI comes out. It’s my favorite game of all time.
it's about money they'll sell the next gen upgrade later
Just do an upscale from 1080p to 1440p @ 60fps. Dead Space and Returnal have the same settings and no one complained about image quality on those. There's literally no reason why the game can't run at 60fps on current gen consoles.
I literally asked this question at least once a month. I would love a current gen update for RDR 2. I have it installed on my Series X currently, and still play it from time to time. I would replay the whole thing in 4k 60, with enhanced visuals.
No way the Series X could run it at 4K 60 fps.
@@bobjoe5937From my knowledge, it runs at native 4k, stable 30fps on Xbox One X, and Series X is significantly more powerful than that. It can definitely handle it. There will probably be some drops in the low 50s during heavy action packed moments, but that's okay
@@losangerooski9517 not native 4K at 60 fps with Ultra...MAYBE medium settings and some high. A 4090 struggles to hit native 4K at ultra at 60. Lol the Series X is decent but not on the level of 40 or 7900 series cards.
@@bobjoe5937 true true. Medium to High sounds realistic for it
@bobjoe5937 honestly the visuals look fantastic on the console settings. I'd just be happy for 60fps pstch on SX. But I'm looking into buying a high end pc next year so I'll probably play it again on pc
Why don't Digital Foundry call out Rockstar for not continuing to update broken GTA Trilogy on Consoles. Its still a mess!
More important than an 60 fps patch
It’s not rockstar
this was a patreon backer question. they're not gonna make a video about every complaint possible
Probably because it wasn't Rockstar that developed the GTA Trilogy.
I've only played RDR2 on the PS4 Pro and loved the game it's a masterpiece of course. But now that I have a PS5 I would love to revisit and play it again, I'm just waiting for a 60fps enhancement upgrade come on Rockstar!!
Don't hold your breath. If it ever does come out it won't be a free patch it will be a new version of the game you have to buy again, like happened with Control. Play it on PC! Even a midrange PC like my Core i5 with RTX4060 easily runs it at >100fps with DLSS enabled or >80fps with it disabled. (I have it capped to 60 though) It plays great and I can run mods as well so I'm doing my second playthrough on PC this time. (First playthrough on the Xbox One)
@@dbmandrake Not everyone wants to, or is able to, game on pc. For lots of reasons.
I’m not a PC guy so hopefully we could get a current gen version of RDR2 even though it might never come out. I would definitely buy it at day 1 and revisit this masterpiece again.
You shouldn't have to pay for that
imagine buying the same again just for a simple fps upgrade that isnt even hard to do
They need to do what CD Project Red did with Witcher 3 Remake
I would love that or just do what they did with Bully.
I’m diving back into RDR2 on the Xbox One X. It’s so good it’s about the only game I’m willing to play at 30fps. It’s a joke that Rockstar haven’t updated it to 60 on current gen. What’s also a joke is if the Series X and PS5 can in fact not bring performance up to 60 at same settings, when the ONE X from 2017 is doing native 4K 30. If it’s one game making me want to switch to PC, it’s the neglect of RDR2 for consoles.
But hold your horses. Don't think PC will solve your need. What a lot of people fail to say about RDR2 on PC is it's bad optimisation. The visuals are really bad for any resolution below 4k. And you need a good GPU for that. If you've got the money to buy big. Then do it. But if you're expecting this huge leap in visuals at 4k and 60 plus. You don't understand what the games like when it runs on PC
If you haven't heard about it's real quality/performance on PC. You need to do some digging before you get your hopes up...
@@MrAden1307 I didn’t know this, thanks. I would’ve gone with a 1080p build for my plasma tv, so if RDR2 looks bad due to poor optimisation then that’s a problem.
@@kristiangurholt59dude I have a gaming laptop that surpass my series X and still RDR2 can't hit 60 FPS on it even on low settings, is not worth it. Meanwhile spider man on 1080 and high settings is 60 FPS...
@@CYB3R2KI hope you're not using any MSAA. It hardly makes any difference & destroys the framerate. The game has received so many patches & runs so much better than it did a few years ago.
@@CYB3R2K I run it great with a 5700X and 6800XT in 1440p and basically everything on ultra (wont touch the settings anymore since i got constantly the gfx_err_state error)
And its always questionable to compare 2 completely different games on completely different engines.
And it also works great for a mate with a 2700X and a 2070
Let’s not worry about 60 FPS on PS5. Instead, let’s focus on why the PS5 uses the PS4 Pro’s checkerboard rendering. It didn’t look good even back in the day; they should have used a lower set resolution.
PS4 pro was a failed device imo. Its like a crippled Xbox one x and no 4k blu ray. I really regret buying one.
I'd be happy with a 1440p 60 FPS version. Doesn't need to be 4K, or rather, give us both options as they currently do on other games: Performance & Quality modes.
This game is a masterpiece, I can't understand why rockstar can't make a simply 60fps patch, that's all I want for this game.
It looks amazing and the lore is perfect.... I don't know if take-two is involved with this game but I hope not.
exactly, current gen consoles can run it at 60FPS even at 1440p-4k locked..
@@niks660097xsx can do 4k60
I've been playing RDR2 at +60fps for years.
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@@fcukugimmeausernamecan't believe 2019 was years ago
@@fcukugimmeausernameyou forgot to mention the part where it was released at a much later date on PC.
Because R* doesn’t care about you, or you, or you, or you, or you
Who
*Take Two
Me? :(
What about you?
They don’t need to sell an enhanced version but just bring out a patch. Apart from the 30 fps it looks great. But Rockstar wouldn’t be Rockstar if they didn’t monetize a patch
Because rdr2 doesn't run at stable 60 fps. Those with a high end pc are familiar with an issue that cause the fps to drop into 30s every once in a while for a second or two. It doesn't matter how powerful your pc is, it will happen at every graphic setting. That issue will carry over to the consoles as well and rockstar won't even bother to fix it just as they haven't bothered to fix it on pc when the fix seems pretty simple.
It have something to do with texture memory. There's a line in one of the config files of the game called "aiTextureMaxMem_3_Base" which have 2500 value by default, if we increase that value by 15+ thousand, it fixes the stutters, but at the cost of excessive vram usage and the stutter will still happen eventually but so rarely that you can call it non existent.
I'm no expert on video game development, so i have no idea why that works and what that line even means but it does work. I just hope some professional and knowledgeable person reads this and do the fix properly.
That setting is probably related to the VRAM allocation for a specific pool of textures.
“ai” probably means the texture pool is related to AI/NPC’s.
“MaxMem” probably means the maximum amount of memory that specific texture pool.
“3” probably means that it is the third texture pool related to AI/NPC textures.
“Base” is probably related to texture settings, they probably just set it Base as there is only one quality setting for this pool of textures.
If it is too low, it will have load some from the disk which gives a stutter. If it is too high, the game will try to assign more VRAM than is available.
I have never had that problem on pc
They can't be bothered to. They didn't want to remake one of their best selling games. They just released a direct port of Read Dead Redemption for the PS4 and Switch. It's a popular game, a remake is not a risk. And yet here we are.
I suspect they are saving it for a remaster later down the line and will get to it when they have the time or need the money. It would be easy for them to add a 60fps patch but it wouldn't make them as much money as a remaster would
Imagine with a remaster we get a expansion to the unused Mexico map with a few stranger missions? So like DLC. That would be 🔥
@@miningironyt They only care about shark cards and buying gold bars. RDR2 should have and easily gotten single player DLC at the very least another undead nightmare.
Red dead redemption 1 was the crowning achievement for Rockstar as a whole.....No other company had given us a game like it and after just 13 years there's still NO other game out there similar or better than Red Dead Redemption 1 the graphics still looks great even by today's standards.The game is just that good...THE BEST WILD WEST VIDEO GAME EVER MADE !!!😊
Great game. 2 is better.
@@villisipuli5678 Disagree, RDR 1 is far better from a gameplay perspective. You felt like you were in the west.
@@RedX165 ur mad 😁
@RedX165 ....having recently finished playing RDR 1 and now playing RDR 2 I thought I was the only one.i have to also agree with you,in RDR 2 it feels like Rockstar added too much unnecessary game play mechanics that makes it feel like a chore.so much that I'm overwhelmed.they copied a few mechanics from Zelda breath of wild with the cooking at campfire and food recipes,and your responsible for your horses daily health & well being.then there's the clothing part where your character's performance can decrease based on the type of clothing you are wearing,then there's the weapon management system u gotta clean your guns for optimal use,also you have to access your horse's storage to take out your weapons before u go hunting or exploring(really dumb)and so much more.all of this is a distraction from the main story.i just don't like it at all.rockstar should of just improved on the original formula of what made RDR1 so good.the only 2 things that I really appreciate they added in RDR 2 is your now able to swim and cross rivers on foot or by horse and you now go fishing otherwise it's a massive and beautiful open world adventure.....now give us the PS5 60fps patch update.
@@Final_Fantasy_7 Lol well it does go for realism and if you ask me RDR2 is better, definitely story wise at least. It can be clunky but I got used to it. And as for guns, just select them right before getting off your horse. You mostly only have to select your rifle or shotgun, sidearms stay on you pretty much (And for hunting you can be on and should be on your horse when doing that most of the time anyway.) And put guns you don't really use in storage at camp so you don't have cycle through 15 of em. My only gripe out of those you mentioned is cleaning guns (it should take longer to dirty them) But if you haven't then go to the gunsmith and get wraps for your guns, they keep your guns clean longer. Also going in the options and making it to where you have to only hold the action button to grab stuff or clean guns and everything makes life much easier in the game. I've beaten both the first and 2nd RDR at least 7 times a piece, i'm definitely ready for 60 FPS.
Just redownloaded RDR2, and 30 FPS is soo bad now after playing everything in 60, especially when trying to hunt smaller animals. It's a shame, because its such a great game.
Hell yes, i would be very happy with just a FPS unlock to be honest, i played at a similar console setting on PC and imo it was and still is the best looking open world ever made.
They should have offered an unlock mode 3 years ago but everyone else offers 60fps mode including AC Odyssey, TLOU Part II, Ghost of Tsushima, Witcher 3. Heck, even Cyberpunk 2077 runs close to 60fps...
They are the only ones with one of the best games who are shooting themselves in the foot.
@@techsamurai11 i agree
It was Native 4k 30 on Xbox one X which is insane how much work they put into making it look amazing on xbox one x
RDR2 needs to be updated with all the bells and whistles. If no 60fps atleast give us even better graphics and a 40fps option
We don't need 4K, just keep whatever resolutions it has and bump it to 60fps. I would replay it again.
I've been desperate for 60fps red dead redemption 2 since series x came out. I still havent completed the game because the frame rate drives me nuts
Rdr2 is a game that massively benefits from 60fps. Once you play it smooth you can't go back. Unfortunately consoles are at the mercy of greedy companies that could care less. Rockstar will instead re release it on PS5 for 70 dollars
The problem is that if they release a patch like that today, they would not be able to milk the game in say 3-4 years from now when they release a full priced remaster of rdr2
The people who are annoyed by a lack of a 60fps patch will also buy GTA6 at launch. Rockstar probably have no incentive to spend money when their games sell regardless.
That being said, get it on PC. It’s great.
It’s a bit naive to call it a simple upgrade. They have to convert their entire game project from Xbox One & PS4 SDKs into Series X|S & PS5 SDKs. It’s a not as simple as checking a box to enable 60fps
I'm sure two guys have started all the preparation work slowly and steadily a long time ago. One of rockstars teams will jump on RDR2 -60fps as soon as GTA 6 is released.
It's very simple. It's as simple as adding a 60 fps option to the ps4 pro version
They haven't even given us per object motion blur on GTAV pc. That's the single feature I'm pining for for this game. Also, maybe they're afraid RDR2 would look better than GTA6 on PS5. I actually expect GTA6 to not look as good as RDR2 for simple reasons, being the vastly increased population density of a big modern city, with cars and people everywhere, and also the means of transport available in a modern setting means there's a hell of a lot more data to stream at high rates of speed.
As I sit in front of my PS5 home screen today. Debating on whether I want it to get GTA V (I didn't finish) or RDR2 (I've never played) I made the decision I will not be getting rdr2 unless they release a 60 FPS update. Rockstar makes great games no doubt but they fall through in every other aspect. A company that can command the largest budget in the gaming industry has no excuse to why they cannot update their crowning Jewel!
I never played RDR2. I bought the game for PS5 a couple of months ago and have been waiting since then the 60 FPS patch. Perhaps it will never come, but I am hell-bent on playing this game in the smoothest manner possible (PC isn't an option for me; I'm a console guy).
I hope the day comes. Otherwise, I'm afraid I'll succumb to the greatness of this game and start playing some day.
It'll come before 2025
Preach, brother! @@adrianos2526
Due to GTA6 not coming until 2025, I've got a feeling they will feel the need for some kind of release in 2024. This year we had GTA trilogy and RDR1 (regardless of how lacklaster both were)
Well, in the end I started playing the game a week ago. I've played around 25 hours and it's a blast. Never noticing the 30 FPS anymore. I'd made a mistake by holding out for so long.
That's a million dollar question why the hell didn't red dead redemption 2 get an next gen update 🤔
Rockstar is a b!!! Just fixing the ugly checkerboarding res of the Ps4 Pro and make it a proper 1440p image plus 60fps should be easy, 10 bucks for it like they did with GTAV and that's it!!!
I doubt this is a hard thing to rockstar, I remember when modders unlocked 60fps option on Fallout 4 series X in a simple notepad when the game started supoort mods.
there's no excuse for not having 60fps on current gen yet. Maybe 4k 60fps wouldn't be feasible, but 1440p 60fps, or 4k with dynamic resolution
PS5 could very easily push 60,fps with the PS4 pros resolution setting and then some.
Series X already does the resolution alone. It's pathetic by Rockstar.
Rockstar is too busy releasing pointless GTA 5 updates.
I've recently finished the game on my 3070/R7 5700x PC on the high refresh monitor with no issues (around 100 FPS silky smooth).
If Xbox One X can run 4K@30 no dynamic scaling
There is no way that Series X will sweat rendering 30 more frames
thing is if can't reach fully 60 ALL THE TIME they wont even bother since the backlash from fans would be way to high that to even justify making it. They can't promote 4k 60 if it only runs at 60 when u are looking at clouds or at the ground hahaha. That being said they could pretty much make it 1440p 60 now that's more possible.
It absolutely will. The 2080ti is 20% faster than the series X and doesn’t lock 60 at 4k xbox one x settings. They would definitely end up using FSR, the the series x version would look worse
@@ArchieBunker11PC is not a one to one comparison to console. Why do people still believe this? Both consoles use unique graphical settings that are lower than the lowest setting available on PC. So just because a 2080Ti can’t achieve 4K/60 has absolutely no bearing on whether or not a Series X could since the graphical settings aren’t remotely similar. Plus, games run different on PC than on console even with equal hardware, sometimes for better and sometimes for worse. Again, stop pretending it’s a perfect one:one. The Series X GPU is double the teraflops of the One X - it’s not unreasonable at all to assume RDR2 would hold 60fps 95% of the time on the Series X. You’re the same type of dude who would have sworn RDR2 would NEVER run at native 4K on consoles and yet it does on One X even though the cpu in that is garbage. PC and console aren’t the same. Stop pretending they are. You just look dumb.
@@GatsuRageThey could just use dynamic res or FSR to hit that target, it’s not that hard. They just haven’t found a way to milk more money out of this game yet so they haven’t released anything.
@@ArchieBunker11 PC comparison is not fair. The console version of the game is running at much lower graphic fidelity settings than what PC settings can achieve. When I say 30 more frames, I mean at the same graphics settings that is currently playable on the One X version.
Rockstar works in mysterious ways
I literally bought the game on Steam just to feel the 60+ fps experience, it feels great!!! Well, despite all the cheaters and hackers ruining part of the experience...
they can manage 60 fps on consoles with thee settings so low maybe even 120 with like god of war quality mode, performance mode, and ultra performance mode. 30 fps,60fps, and 120 fps
on one hand the game is still playable on the current gen consoles and can run at a solid 30 fps at 1080p or 4k depending on the system, thanks to backwards compatibility. So Part of me can see why they wouldnt do the work, on the other hand they put gta V on both last gen consoles and current gen consoles so its not like the same developers dont have some track history.
even if the gpu on them cant do native 4k 60 all the time fsr 2 is a thing now
Ahh but you see, you are missing one important fact. GTA5 makes money with its online, RDR2 doesn't.
i KNOW they'll charge full price for it, but when they do, they should have a 1440p60 option - or dynamic 1800p - (NATIVE, non of that reconstruction artifact BS) and a 4k "quality mode" with some extra something, just like the Witcher, WITH a 40fps possible mode for those with nice TV sets.
I think the worst part is we all know Microsoft asked to do FPS boost and Rockstar said no because A. They wanted money from Microsoft, and B. They wanted to resell it at some point but cancelled plans to.
Ive resisted many times reinstalling this game on PS5. It will come and it'll be great. Just need the patience 😬
a 60 fps mode would be welcome, but replaying the game these days as we speak, its cinematic nature and slow paced gameplay, is fine at 30 fps and its quite the smooth 30 fps game due to post processing effects compared to other 30 fps games. The game looks absolutely gorgeous even today and is an amazing achievement. 60 fps option would be nice to have, But game needs no remaster really. Just a 60 fps patch would be enough. I hope rockstar listens to its fanbase and release it for free. (but they wont :P )
It looks a little jittery (for me anyways) on ps5 but I blame my tv on that (it doesn't have almm or whatever it's called)
Defenentely not smooth
Interesting, if Red Dead Redemption 3 ties into the story arc like the previous Red Dead Redemptions, then it's likely that Rockstar my revisit a remastered version of RDR2 closing to the development of RDR3 simply because the game is so loved by the community. I just completed this on PC after first starting a few years ago and moving on to other things (namely MSFS in VR) the last few weeks have been incredible, Arthur Morgan's story and indeed the rest of the characters how they change is phenomenal and the environments to, detailed and meaningful. What a game and for me by far the best game I've ever played.
They didn't to the first game why would they to the second?
What do you mean? Red Dead Redemption 1 was just rereleased and has a 60fps option for current consoles with higher resolution and AA. It's no remaster, but it does feel significantly better.
No PC version tho for some unknown reason. I'm getting annoyed just typing out that sentence, why the heck no PC version?!@@mopilok
Id buy red dead 2 day one if they released a next gen version.
For some reason I thought it was updated for next gen. I played it on my Xbox One S at launched and loved it. I ended up getting it on PC a few years ago for around $10. I have an RTX 3080 and can play it at 4K 60fps and it's pretty much like playing the remastered version compared to the One S version I originally played. However, I only played about 1/5 through on PC as other games in my backlog were prioritized that I didn't complete but I may jump back in as it's a work of art.
Edit: Just fired it up for the hell of it and was able to play at 4K Ultra 70fps and 1440P 120fps. What a pretty game. I may pick back up after I complete a few games I'm currently working on.
I'm still holding out hope and putting my third playthrough on standby for the meantime.
im putting my first playthrough on standby. got to chapter two on my old pc and the TAA is so bad i cant continue. still waiting for a ps5 upgrade
If this game can Run at native 4K with a mostly locked 30fps on the xbox one x then devs like Ubisoft, E.A have no excuse and Horizon forbidden west on the ps5 runs at 1800p 60fps locked, these 2 games to me look far better than any recent open world game by far and still look far better than majority of more linear titles that focus on graphics.
Horizon FB resolution is 1080p in performance mode before upscaling. If RDR2 was to use pc ultra settings on ps5 they would have to drop the base resolution down way below 1440p, hacked ps5 using ps4 settings at 1440p cannot lock 60fps.
“They could just farm it out, but it’s not Rockstar’s style”
Did you guys completely miss the GTA Trilogy???
There is already a mod on PS5 that enables 60 fps on rdr2 but it requires a jailbroken PS5.
Farming it out is 100% Rockstar's style: they did it with the Definative Collection of the PS2 games.
Red dead redemption 2 xbox one x code is still the best looking game I have on the series x all these years later and Horizon forbidden west is the best looking game I have on the ps5 + it runs at 1800p 60fps
Game never looked good to me. Ps4pro and then xsx graphics are grainy and resolution looks 1080p. It never look 4k to me. Horizon, control, ff15 look better
@@bombyo3634Control has horrible optimization on consoles
@@Electrifize true but it looks great thats what im saying. Badly optimized and still looks good.
@@Electrifize red dead just looks to grainy to me. The resolution looks bad. When everyone praised it i played and it was cool it just wasnt special and i was disappointed.
I wanted to feel like everyone else and love it but just couldn't.
@@bombyo3634 It's literally Native 4k on the One X, but okay
They want to charge for it. They don't even want to increase the resolution, all other major developers have done it.
It would one dev about two or three days to change the code, test, recompile whatever. Take Two just don’t give a shit.
I do believe it would be an easy fix to make it 60 fps, but it wouldn't take 1 dev a few days. It would be a little bit more work than that.
a modder with the source code would do even better, as in keep making updates
“It wouldn’t be as simple” a single dude released a patch for 60fps on jailbreak consoles
They put cracked games on steam that don't even work, and they didn't fix it or even deign to respond as far as I know. They don't care
why are they even alive then if they don't care, why even bother living if you spend every waking moment just not caring
@@MGrey-qb5xz if I made stuff, I would care, I would want to keep people happy with the product. Crazy I know
the thing is as console players there is no excuse for us to not have the graphics options that PC players get.
if i want to turn off ray tracing or other settings to increase my FPS i should be able to do that.
thats my biggest gripe woth console gaming is were stuck with whatever settings the developers allow us to have.
also, most of us are more than content with 1080p 60fps.
we arent even asking for 4k, we just want 60fps
at times the 30fps feels SOO clunky and slow.
its brutal but we still play it.
i would gladly pay money for the upgrade too.
Most people have big ass TV’s in excess of 55”.
You need 4k resolutions.
Smaller screens you can get away with lower resolution.
Even the recent GTA 5 current gen patch requires upscaling to run at 4K 60 and that is at it’s core a 360/PS3 era game. I would agree that RDR2 is not as easy as people assume to get running at 4K 60 fps on current consoles. I do like the upscaler for GTA 5, it’s fine, so if they went with that option I’d be down for it. I think RDR2 and Arkham Knight are 2 that are most in need of that ‘next gen patch’. Arkham Knight still holds up phenomenally well, but looks really grainy and blurry on console. Visually, not even the 30 fps, and especially in the rainy open world. If WB and Rockstar just upgraded these to 4K 60 in whatever way works (even if we need upscaling), people would easily buy these in droves. It’s such a no brainer that it becomes bizarre for certain games that didn’t take advantage of this. Especially in the first 2 years of this console generation, when everything was delayed and we had a drought for new content, and essentially any game that got a ‘next gen upgrade’ was in the news the week it launched and got a ton of free publicity.
Honestly, I just want a fps unlock option, both in RDR2 and Arkham Knight.
I just don’t understand why developers just didn’t want to make this an option in any game ever. It’s just so dumb in a future proofing perspective to be stuck with certain framerates.
Take note that red dead redemption 2 on the xbox one x still looks far superior and better looking to gta5 quality more on the series x and both run at 4K 30fps in quality
@@davion4777because if they didn't design the game to run at a higher framerate it might end up worse and a waste of time. We have examples.
They did it for GTAV. I want it on PS5.
It is criminal how poorly the online was treated so they could milk GTA Online more.
Red Dead Online had so much potential. What they had was already good. The game just needed better support, frequent content updates and maybe new features.
That is by far the best wild west simulator. Too bad the devs (Probably Take Two) didn't care much since it didn't make nearly as much as GTAO
It’s only good for griefing. It’s a shit online experience.
Rockstar has continuously shown that they don't care about their legacy games.
Especially red dead
Such a masterpiece, have played it both on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X and would love to play it again on PS5! A 60fps patch would be lovely!
I think they never bothered bc at 30 fps it ran perfectly fine. Beat the game multiple times without a frame drop or bug. It’s a campaign masterpiece. It doesn’t need 60 fps , it’s not comp fps.
Exactly. The whole obsession over 60 fps is so sad. People refusing to playing games because it doesn't meet their strange standards. The only games that NEED 60 fps and above are first person shooters. This game doesn't need it
The gaybox series x can't handle it at 60fps! It runs starfail at 7fps and that is on top of 360 looking graphics 😂😂😂
@@The-Powah and you are a salty gaybox fanboy.
Definitely giving off “forced to use the broken 3rd party controller” energy here…….
I thought RUclips doesn’t allow 5 year olds with brain damage on their platform?
@@HiN00bs12You sound very smart - you should apply to MIT!
@@joshuaDstarks They give off loser vibes. They would rather sit and try cause an argument over literally nothing... On something they clearly do not like. Guy or kid puts more effort into awful trolling than their own life.
I will never understand why people hate 30fps so much. As long as the game looks great and keeps those 30fps all the time, I see no problem.
Because it looks and feels terrible,going from 30 to even 60 is like going from a very stutery 15 to 30 it's extremely noticeable. Even going from 60 to 120 has the same effect, it makes the motion very smooth. This is why even on the Steam Deck I try and leeep the framerate to at least 40fps and higher because that extra 10fps makes a massive difference in smoothness.
It’s native 4K/30 on one x. So should be able to hit same settings at 4k/60 on current gen
On the series x it should, as it's exactly double the teraflops. but PS5 would probably need dynamic resolution.
Even the current version still sells on the consoles well afaik. I assume when the sales really go down, they will release the next gen version so they can charge as many users twice as they can.
I would LOVE a 1440p 60fps option if 4k is not possible.
For TakeTwo is not even only RDR2. Mafia 1, 2 & 3 are not backwards compatible nor have 60 fps patches for PS5. And their upgraded versions came at the end of life of the last gen, after RDR2.
Rockstar stopped caring about rdr2’s story mode years ago. They still haven’t even added the navy revolver from online
Because the game plays just fine at 30.
Not against being given the option for 60, but it's really not a dealbreaker for a game like RDR.
They can rerelease it on the next console and they’ll get the same amount of profit the first time round. They’re not stupid lol
Arkham knight and rdr 2 they both need 60fps asap
just play it really is one of the best games ever made for me
Simple as that. I don't understand the strange mentality of not playing a game because it isn't 60 fps. It's very sad 😂
It’s all rockstar fault Ps5 Jailbreak has proven to run RDR 2 on 60 fps and no slowdowns. It’s all on them to flip the switch someday
I would have paid $200 for that rumored remaster that included RDR1 and RDR2 in one game with some extra content
Cut the excuses. RDR2 was developed on an xbox ONE console! It still looks better than most Next Gen Games on hardware that's over twice as powerful! There should be absolutely no reason why RDR2 can't run at 60fps on current gen machines!!
The most detailed game in gaming history,don’t get 60 FPS upgrade for consoles on Next Gen,it’s the biggest crime in gaming history.
I would say, separate game release, 1440p 60fps high settings no ray tracing new achievement list, 70€ but 25€ for existing owners
Simple answer: Rockstar doesn't want to.
That's the realest you'll ever get. It's the same reason a lot of older gen games still haven't seen 60fps patches despite the original sdk's still existing.
I imagine they've not done it because the money and resources spent doing it would be better spent on GTA 6.
They'd have to outsource the remaster, but they're likely still burned from the last time they did that, even though a rdr2 one would be easier.
The facta that we don't get a patch makes me believe that they have a ps5 version in the making like gta v. So they can sell the upgrade
GTA 5’s original release date was september 2013 on PS3 and PS4.
Remastered versions were announced on June 2020, and were originally slated for release in 2021.
15th of March 2022 GTA V remaster finally was released on ps5 with 60 FPS patch.
RDR 2 was released October 2018 on PS4. There is no specific ps5 RDR 2 version available in the store. They probably want to release a 4k patch for RDR2, but
are too focused on GTA 6 which is long overdue.
The fact that rdr1 minor remaster for PS4 got a 60 fps patch, and rdr2 hasnt in 2024 is simply outrageous
Love how we get a “Remaster” for a game that didn’t need it, but leave Bloodborne at 1080p, with no antialiasing and locked at 30fps with terrible frame pacing.
I just started replaying RDR2 and wish for this badly
30fps is an artistic choice according to phils spencer's lover....60fps would be absurd
Todd Howard also said that bs argument hahaha.
It is true though I don't like 60 fps in all games
u crazy.@@curiousmind_
A "simple update" won't make money, a re-release will sell for full price.
"They could farm it out, but that isn't Rockstar's style....."
GTA Triology and RED DEAD REDEMPTION REMASTER ( 2023 ) would like a word......
Rockstar will only charge for it anyway. Even Ubisioft dont charge for their 60fps upgrades