@@ryanphan7433 maybe try on a different device? i reached out to my brand contact and they reconfirmed everything should be working any you should be receiving 15%.
Honestly this direction feels very in character for Jiren. He’s crazy strong purely due to pure strength and absurd fundamentals (and thus insane normals and pressure), but doesn’t have the normal WACK factor in his specials that other characters have. He’s on par with the likes of UI Goku or Broly through sheer will and power rather than, as he would put it, “cheap parlor tricks” such as frame 1 reversals or being simultaneously the best zoner and grappler in the game.
@@NiiRubrais because in the anime the power creep is literally based in numbers so cannot have interest fights without character been god, something the game avoid like plague
i kind of slot him with a sort of playstyle some attribute to the likes of Baiken: instead of being a Defensive character like UIG, he's *Counter*offensive. Maybe not the most aggressive compared to the likes of rushdown characters, but with a type of aggression that just kinda snuffs and stuffs whatever you throw
What I love about Jiren is that unlike most other top tiers, he doesn't rely on a broken gimmick or move to carry him. He has his counters, but those are integrated into his moveset well enough that it doesn't feel like they themselves are broken. Instead, he just relies on his *jacked* fundamentals. Which is pretty in line with his character overall. Most of the Pride Troopers, and almost everyone in the Tournament of Power had a unique gimmick or skill or something. Dyspo's speed, Hit's Timeskip, etc. But Jiren had just his own raw power. No fancy skills or anything, *just* raw power and control.
The visual aesthetics in this one were GREAT; especially the intro, and I love how the years are represented by a certain hue. Your use of colors is AMAZING. Music Choice was great too; the Pokken themes chosen fit to Jiren like bread and butter. Explanations are simple & easy to follow as always too. Overall, solid stuff, very cool!
I like how this buff actually kind of fits his character. Jiren was at his most interesting and felt the most powerful in the show when he was barely trying, taking people out with his weakest attacks while completely countering their strongest. It makes total sense to me that his play style should reflect that, pressuring people with terrifying normals and even light attacks, before baiting them into his counters
I see it as; if you were to take everyone's abilities away like the game/story does, Jiren would still be the greatest matial artist alive. He's trained the hardest for the longest with no family or distractions, and has an unshakable will, therefore he's the most skilled fundamentally and would be the most dangerous "unarmed" character
Any chance we can talk about Tien, Yamcha, and Krillin and how insane they've gotten in the last few patches? Namely Yamcha's new gimmick of having full invincibility on his normals, Tien's ridiculous number of options for opening you up (numerous overheads, a full-screen low, and even a command grab), and Krillin's absurd mix.
Being completely honest, Yamcha's invul on 5H is great but I many times forget 5M has invul since it works so rarely xD the real buff was the ki blasts and the WFF cancels
I really love the breakdowns in these videos. Having the “before and after” and different versions next to each other makes everything so clean and easy to understand.
You know, I don't really play the game now a days but watching your videos is always such a pleasure, especially given how much your editing has improved. I also like those little jokes you do using the in game sprites.
i've barely seen anyone mention how amazing ginyu has gotten over the past few patches with his heavy becoming one of the most versatile normals in the game, his lariats becoming fullscreen, his level 2 being special cancellable, etc... would love to see you talk about him!
I like how through years of buffs they've pivoted what was supposed to be a defensive powerhouse into a dump truck that just rolls over people and punishes them from trying to get out from under the wheels. It's very funny.
I’ve been LOVING these videos that go over how a character used to be and how they became great through buffs over the years. I’m hyped to see who the next one could be. Keep up the great work, for real
Didn't think we'd get more videos as we continue to sit in the Rollback Waiting Room Appreciate the breakdown here! Jiren having a projectile counter that is also immune to physical moves, and a low counter that's not very good for lows (or anything else for that matter) is pretty funny ngl
I love your edits, dbfz is the first fighting game I've approached and you're really helping me understand all the mechanics and interactions, which many players now take for granted, plus, The quality of the videos themselves is phenomenal, keep it up❤
I still dunno if I'd call Jiren wacky enough to be top tier off how great his 2L is, but this video was helpful to me as, I had never considered throwing counters into stagger strings to punish antsy buttons. Thanks!
I don't even play FighterZ, but man, I love MoldyBagel's character breakdowns! It's really interesting to see the competitive history of a fighting game character and why they suck/don't suck anymore/are just OK, now. Not to mention Moldy's injection of humour and the great editing! Love it!
He’s that strong without even mentioning the ki blast immune 5S, one of the most powerful level 1’s in the game that has spirit bomb synergy, how his crazy damage is increased even further from chaining multiple supers from a single counter in the new universal limit break change
I have no idea why it took me this long to realize your pfp is Toadally Awesome lmao Edit: the little smile on Jiren at the end KILLED ME, thank you so much lmao
Jiren out here with 2L, the giant advancing, -2, 7 frame startup, mid, medium starter, jump cancellable, reverse beating, breakfast making, salt inducing, electrifying normal. Oh and mix too thanks to 9 frame 2M. Jiren the goat.
Thank you for doing this. Jiren is my second favorite of all characters (The Clappa trumps everything) when it comes to aesthetics. He is Karate personified.
Your videos have always helped me with DBFZ in terms of either characters, info or just memes. Thanks for doing these and I hope you do more for a long time
i really fucking like how jiren and ui goku are like very similar in many aspects but also play very differently, they parallel each other so fucking well its so cool
I remember watching the devs showcasing the patch and one of them said something along the lines of "Jiren's counter working against dragon rush was a bug"
As an outsider looking into these videos, it’s always interesting to learn how the meta has evolved since the beginning. Never even heard about Jiren in the conversation for one of the best in the game until this video. Also shoutouts to Pokkén music.
Really fun to watch. Feel like you could also mention the addition to his (hold) down heavy on the wall for combo extensions. That extra damage you can get from him is crazy.
From bad to greatness. -Jiren -GTku (relapsing) -SSJ Vegeta -SSB Vegeta -Ginyu -Frieza -Yamcha -Zamasu -Black -Beerus -Trunks So many good characters now and I love it. Even the low tiers of today are fun to play compared to before, like kid buu, piccolo, and UI.
When I first played DBFZ, Jiren was one of the first characters I played because he looked cool. Seeing him return like this is awesome. Also loved the use of Pokken music, I knew it sounded familiar
Something I respect about DBFZ is that they aren't afraid to completely reinvent characters between seasons. Many other games are afraid to make drastic changes because it would contradict the creative vision of the developers. Here, they actually listen to what fans want and will work with what they have to fix things in a truly meaningful way.
@@MoldyBagel when you zoom in on the shot while stepping backwards to create like a feeling of being sucked into the center of the shot. Great for establishing fear on the focus or a powerful dread. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_zoom
@@MoldyBagel happy to help you've continously improved and I think you deserve props for that. Sure the effort for dragon ball lore and fighterz accuracy is important. But you've also been improving with editing and experimenting with different shots and angles. Hope you have as much fun making these as we get from watching em
![[What-If 12] Gogeta VS Jiren.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ju7qzN4jnEA/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks to Holzkern for sponsoring this video! Go to www.holzkern.com/moldybagel for 15% off!
I checked your code and it only seemed to be around 6.5 percent off. I was really excited to try it out, is this supposed to happen?
Ayooo you managed to learn the blueku loops
weird, i will reach out to them asap and update you when i have an answer@@ryanphan7433
@@ryanphan7433 maybe try on a different device? i reached out to my brand contact and they reconfirmed everything should be working any you should be receiving 15%.
@@MoldyBagel orange piccolo mod just dropped and it has custom EVERYTHING from a badass intro to a amazing level 3
Doto 'Try Something' Doya would be proud
Bro invented a Mix Up Trilogy before breaking sales with a Return of the Mix
@@DaBossMn Can't forget the prequel movie Spin To Win, such an underrated classic
@@robertcole2585 that is true. Not many people ever consider the oldies. Most of them are gems
Y’all are forgetting the critically acclaimed:
GUESS! THAT! MIX!
And the hit series TRY SOMETHING that sold hundreds of millions of copies worldwide
Honestly this direction feels very in character for Jiren. He’s crazy strong purely due to pure strength and absurd fundamentals (and thus insane normals and pressure), but doesn’t have the normal WACK factor in his specials that other characters have. He’s on par with the likes of UI Goku or Broly through sheer will and power rather than, as he would put it, “cheap parlor tricks” such as frame 1 reversals or being simultaneously the best zoner and grappler in the game.
That's a great way to see it oof
I mean only frame one option he got is ex counter but even then
Being strong in a basic bitch way was boring in the anime but it translated well to a fighting game.
@@NiiRubrais because in the anime the power creep is literally based in numbers so cannot have interest fights without character been god, something the game avoid like plague
@@NiiRubra Jiren being called boring, smh. can't fathom it
I would love to see a video on Videl's recent changes. Her dodge being buffed and her 5LL not hitting crouchers giving her a god-tier tick throw.
oo I did not know about the tick throw thing
@@MoldyBagelIts crazy, Measy used it ALOT during CEOtaku and it's so hard to see coming
@@MoldyBagelwould you be interested in making a new vid about Frieza?
@@MoldyBagelYou've got a lot of things to make videos on
@@MoldyBagel I dare you not to make a video on DBS Broly.
I like the idea of Jiren being more of an aggressive powerhouse rather than a copy UI. It’s how the two interacted with each other in the first place.
i kind of slot him with a sort of playstyle some attribute to the likes of Baiken: instead of being a Defensive character like UIG, he's *Counter*offensive. Maybe not the most aggressive compared to the likes of rushdown characters, but with a type of aggression that just kinda snuffs and stuffs whatever you throw
@@MUGENanaya good way to put it
Your edits get exponentially better every time
i was grinding after effects this month. hope it shows, definitely haven't perfected it yet
@MoldyBagel they go so hard, dude.
@@MoldyBagelyou’re the asumsaus of dbfz. Your videos are so good
What I love about Jiren is that unlike most other top tiers, he doesn't rely on a broken gimmick or move to carry him. He has his counters, but those are integrated into his moveset well enough that it doesn't feel like they themselves are broken. Instead, he just relies on his *jacked* fundamentals. Which is pretty in line with his character overall.
Most of the Pride Troopers, and almost everyone in the Tournament of Power had a unique gimmick or skill or something. Dyspo's speed, Hit's Timeskip, etc. But Jiren had just his own raw power. No fancy skills or anything, *just* raw power and control.
jirens gimmick is having no friends
@@MoldyBagelshit you right
The visual aesthetics in this one were GREAT; especially the intro, and I love how the years are represented by a certain hue. Your use of colors is AMAZING. Music Choice was great too; the Pokken themes chosen fit to Jiren like bread and butter. Explanations are simple & easy to follow as always too. Overall, solid stuff, very cool!
thanks a bunch my dude
@@MoldyBagelthe FOV drag effects were sick too
@@MoldyBagelWould you be willing to make videos on Pokken if you got the chance? I would love it if you did, Pokken needs more attention.
I like how this buff actually kind of fits his character.
Jiren was at his most interesting and felt the most powerful in the show when he was barely trying, taking people out with his weakest attacks while completely countering their strongest. It makes total sense to me that his play style should reflect that, pressuring people with terrifying normals and even light attacks, before baiting them into his counters
I see it as; if you were to take everyone's abilities away like the game/story does, Jiren would still be the greatest matial artist alive. He's trained the hardest for the longest with no family or distractions, and has an unshakable will, therefore he's the most skilled fundamentally and would be the most dangerous "unarmed" character
Any chance we can talk about Tien, Yamcha, and Krillin and how insane they've gotten in the last few patches?
Namely Yamcha's new gimmick of having full invincibility on his normals, Tien's ridiculous number of options for opening you up (numerous overheads, a full-screen low, and even a command grab), and Krillin's absurd mix.
Being completely honest, Yamcha's invul on 5H is great but I many times forget 5M has invul since it works so rarely xD the real buff was the ki blasts and the WFF cancels
These devs care more about the humans than the actual writers of Dragon Ball.
@@demi-femme4821 Im so sad that you're 100% correct
Datodoya be eating rn
Yamcha and Tien have been in my time since launch so I've been eating real good
I love the transitions from each year's meta to the next.
11:06 I'm now being reminded on how in previous videos you struggled to do this loop with Goku Blue. Congrats on getting the execution down!
and it only took like 3 years
I really love the breakdowns in these videos. Having the “before and after” and different versions next to each other makes everything so clean and easy to understand.
The number 1 DBFZ content creator. Keep up the great work!
thanks homie
You know, I don't really play the game now a days but watching your videos is always such a pleasure, especially given how much your editing has improved. I also like those little jokes you do using the in game sprites.
i do my darndest
these videos are always such high production value that come out relatively fast, i'm amazed
The power of a bald orphan never felt so powerful until now
LOL
Love the Pokken Tournament music along with the editing style of the vid! Hearing Phos Volcano in DBFZ is something I never thought I needed
it fits very well
Jiren is still without a doubt one of the most fun yet evil characters in the game
i've barely seen anyone mention how amazing ginyu has gotten over the past few patches with his heavy becoming one of the most versatile normals in the game, his lariats becoming fullscreen, his level 2 being special cancellable, etc... would love to see you talk about him!
Jiren finally obtained that which is beyond strength, the blessing of bandai namco.
I dont even play this game, yet I still have been watching your vids for more than two years.
Its just that good. Keep it up!
thanks a lot homie
every time MoldyBagel gets a sponsorship request he has to think to himself "god DAMN... i gotta make another CHARACTER GUIDE..."
more like, thank god i don't need to get an actual job this month LOL
I like how through years of buffs they've pivoted what was supposed to be a defensive powerhouse into a dump truck that just rolls over people and punishes them from trying to get out from under the wheels. It's very funny.
I haven’t played DBFZ in a looong time and was wondering why Jiren was so highly rated all of a sudden. Thanks for the upload!
"Why dont you go ahead and TRY SOMETHING!"
I’ve been LOVING these videos that go over how a character used to be and how they became great through buffs over the years. I’m hyped to see who the next one could be. Keep up the great work, for real
"Wait, why is Jiren top-tier?"
"He has a really good 2L."
Didn't think we'd get more videos as we continue to sit in the Rollback Waiting Room
Appreciate the breakdown here!
Jiren having a projectile counter that is also immune to physical moves, and a low counter that's not very good for lows (or anything else for that matter) is pretty funny ngl
I love your edits, dbfz is the first fighting game I've approached and you're really helping me understand all the mechanics and interactions, which many players now take for granted, plus, The quality of the videos themselves is phenomenal, keep it up❤
The editing is outright amazing
No other RUclips makes me gasp harder than seeing you appear on my feed. Now I get to see you talk about my “Spin to Win” Jiren boy
He is not overpowered, he is anime accurate.
True.
Also he is possibly the least cheap Top Tier so.
me from the future here
i was wrong about the cheap, Android 17 exists.
Moldy, I cannot stress enough how good your video essays are. I don't even play this game and yet you really know how to rope your audience in.
Hearing Pokken music legit made me smile the biggest I have in a long while.
You should Play Pokken NOW.
Justice has came.
And so have I
Justice has what😳
is a good 3:46 in the morning when moldybagel uploads
gotta stay up and watch
I still dunno if I'd call Jiren wacky enough to be top tier off how great his 2L is, but this video was helpful to me as, I had never considered throwing counters into stagger strings to punish antsy buttons. Thanks!
These are actually extremely prepared videos, I love this. Great intro to characters that you may not know about
I don't even play FighterZ, but man, I love MoldyBagel's character breakdowns!
It's really interesting to see the competitive history of a fighting game character and why they suck/don't suck anymore/are just OK, now.
Not to mention Moldy's injection of humour and the great editing! Love it!
I wasn’t ready for the Pokken Bangers, also Immaculate analysis, Doto Would be proud
Insane how polished these videos are becoming, always a good day when @moldybagel uploads
He’s that strong without even mentioning the ki blast immune 5S, one of the most powerful level 1’s in the game that has spirit bomb synergy, how his crazy damage is increased even further from chaining multiple supers from a single counter in the new universal limit break change
“UI felt like what Jiren would be if he didn’t suck”
Just like in canon.
Feelsbadman
I have no idea why it took me this long to realize your pfp is Toadally Awesome lmao
Edit: the little smile on Jiren at the end KILLED ME, thank you so much lmao
I think this video is 10/10 Slop Points, nice Glooper!
yo WTF is this comment
Jiren out here with 2L, the giant advancing, -2, 7 frame startup, mid, medium starter, jump cancellable, reverse beating, breakfast making, salt inducing, electrifying normal.
Oh and mix too thanks to 9 frame 2M.
Jiren the goat.
Ah yes, they're giving him the Kid Buu treatment of making him busted by fundamentals rather than being a one-trick-pony.
Well played Namco.
there's always gotta be at least one
Thank you for doing this. Jiren is my second favorite of all characters (The Clappa trumps everything) when it comes to aesthetics.
He is Karate personified.
Yes sir i play jiren and nappa as well
Nice to see that Pokkén Tournament’s OST is getting some love.
That was nice of Jiren to start off the video by helping Hit do his job
Just watching this video makes me want to play Jiren. This is the best editing I’ve seen in a while. Glad I woke up at 3:40 AM. Lol
Your videos have always helped me with DBFZ in terms of either characters, info or just memes. Thanks for doing these and I hope you do more for a long time
I'll do em as long as it can pay the bills probably
Jiren is always asking you to TRY SOMETHING!
I still remember playing jiren early on. He did suck but funny enemy twirl make dopamine go brr
5:59 “TRY SOMETHING”
i really fucking like how jiren and ui goku are like very similar in many aspects but also play very differently, they parallel each other so fucking well its so cool
Ive come from the future jirens j.2h/ air down heavy can move across screen slowly rises and its plus 11 on BLOCK
There was no Yamcha in the intro because he was too strong for Jiren and he was too lazy to attack him xb
It's been SO long and I've always loved playing jiren, it's nice to see him finally be the powerhouse he should have been.
I aint gonna lie I was 100% expecting “Try something” from Doto pretty sure he’s the reason it got nerfed like that Xd
I mean they did say it was a "bug" but i doubt it
doto rolling in his pink squared grave rn
I don't even play this game anymore. But I know this is the best edited content on youtube.
Its always a fun surprise to hear the Pokken soubdtrack used in videos, after hearing it so much after playing it competitively for years
I remember watching the devs showcasing the patch and one of them said something along the lines of "Jiren's counter working against dragon rush was a bug"
2:03 I’ll tell you why…
IT WAS DRAGONS!
Bro Pokken tournament has an underrated ost
Big respect for using Pokken music, it is very underrated.
As an outsider looking into these videos, it’s always interesting to learn how the meta has evolved since the beginning. Never even heard about Jiren in the conversation for one of the best in the game until this video. Also shoutouts to Pokkén music.
Fantastic music choices as always.
DBFZ really makes Jiren seem like a really cool character.
Love the essay videos as always. Your content is what keeps me up to date on fighterz. And its funny on top of it
"Krillin has been eliminated" is the most intimidating line ever.
the strongest human
Really fun to watch. Feel like you could also mention the addition to his (hold) down heavy on the wall for combo extensions. That extra damage you can get from him is crazy.
I dont even play the game or have watched much dragon ball, but these videos are just so good I can't resist watching!
LOVE IT!
I didn't know that's how combo damage works tbh lmao I just knew they scaled with the starting hit not how they did it
Damn the editing gets better and better every video, hella impressive
I thought hit was supposed to be the first counter character in the game since that was what his whole KI blast was supported to do.
I just realized youre pfp is toadally awesome
That intro goes so damn hard.
ty, took a lot of effort. This was my first time using after effects so excited to get more proficient with it.
Good choice of music. I'm glad to see Pokken getting some rep!
My God the editing of your videos got so good, not that it was bad before but the quality of this videos are amazing dude
always trying to make it better ty
Bet you cant argue that cooler It’s the most balanced character
From bad to greatness.
-Jiren
-GTku (relapsing)
-SSJ Vegeta
-SSB Vegeta
-Ginyu
-Frieza
-Yamcha
-Zamasu
-Black
-Beerus
-Trunks
So many good characters now and I love it. Even the low tiers of today are fun to play compared to before, like kid buu, piccolo, and UI.
I knew I heard Pokken Tournament music!
When I first played DBFZ, Jiren was one of the first characters I played because he looked cool. Seeing him return like this is awesome. Also loved the use of Pokken music, I knew it sounded familiar
Can’t believe he got sponsored by drip
dude it's legit really nice
I haven't played this game in 4 years, I still get excited when a video comes out though. I love the in depth analysis you put forward!
Something I respect about DBFZ is that they aren't afraid to completely reinvent characters between seasons. Many other games are afraid to make drastic changes because it would contradict the creative vision of the developers. Here, they actually listen to what fans want and will work with what they have to fix things in a truly meaningful way.
they do make a lotta good changes. they also do some insane things lol
My bp rises everytime I see that damn 2L
it's bonkers
now he and beerus are both finally lore-accurate
Dudes one of the best editors for DBZ legit
5:03 Jiren being bottom tier while *Yamcha* is top tier is so funny to me lol
Jiren in the thumbnail looks like he’s about to tag you out of dodgeball.
Those hitchcock pulls were great, glad to see the talented editing always improving. Keep up the good stuff man
whoah what is a hitchcock pull. i googled it and could not find an answer
@@MoldyBagel when you zoom in on the shot while stepping backwards to create like a feeling of being sucked into the center of the shot. Great for establishing fear on the focus or a powerful dread.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_zoom
@@justin99000 OOOOOH THAT yeah i have definitely seen that before ty
@@MoldyBagel happy to help you've continously improved and I think you deserve props for that. Sure the effort for dragon ball lore and fighterz accuracy is important. But you've also been improving with editing and experimenting with different shots and angles. Hope you have as much fun making these as we get from watching em
@@justin99000 definitely do, this was my first time using after effects, which is mostly how that intro is done. after effects is freaking cracked
MY BOY FINALLY HAS SOME JUSTICE FOR HIS JUSTICE SQUAD
I've always loved your videos, and hey with her new changes maybe soon we'll get a video on MA21! The Bubblegum Flavored Top tier.
MA21 will definitely happen eventually
I sceond this as the fututre video title for MA21! :D
Still waiting on a Hit version. Thanks for keeping the game alive!
def will happen eventually, perhaps i'll hit up a good hit player for advice ;)
Should put the Doto vs Super Baby in there. "GO AHEAD, TRY SOMETHING! TRY IT AGAIN! I'LL STOP YOU EVERY TIME!"
"TRYYYY SOMETHING IF YOU FEEL SO BAD ABOUT IT! GO AHEAD AND TRY SOMETHING-"
its so funny watching Jiren, zamasu, beerus and all those low tiers rise while ui,kid buu fall
Pokken Tournament will always have the best music for this type of stuff
yeah it was recommended by a commenter, a real good choice