[What-If 12] Gogeta VS Jiren.
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Hey guys! For those wondering why these sprites, it was because there are no Extreme Butoden, or high-res sprites for Gogeta or Jiren.
So I had to make it happen with these. I still had fun making it though, and I hope you guys enjoy it!
That said, obviously the next animation: [What-If #13] GT Goku VS Golden Frieza, will include high-res Extreme Butoden sprites!
Stay tuned and have a great week!
Great videos as always your videos are always worth the wait and as soon as I can I'm going to donate to your pateron
Hey when are you going to do vegito xeno vs Gogeta. Also may you please do Golden Frieza vs Android 17 as both are in a similar power level.
you have no idea how fast i clicked this video^^
I know so people who make high-res sprites and i can see if they can help u out with that.
I love how the into is in game format
Goku: "It would be great to fight with you another time, Jiren."
Vegeta: "Fall off the stage, _dammit_ !"
XD
XD
Underrated xD
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol XD
“An emotionless coward like you will be defeated by the epitome of teamwork.”
Who are you, and what did you do with Vegeta?
The "epitome of teamwork" part didn't sound right.
He actually did say something similar in the Dbs Manga
The more you know..
the better....
A Vegeta that's finally matured
When goku says “let’s fight another time” you know it’s over
Lol 🤪🤪🤪😂😂😁🤪🤪🤪 yea
Lmfao this is so true or when he says "This fight is over..."
unless your whis
*Laughs in Granolah*
The contrast to Vegetas Thumb
Beerus: "gogeta! You're bleeding!"
Gogeta: "Not my blood!"
Gow 2018 quote
Goku is blessed with plot armor to all instant kill move, physical or magical.
Haha GOW 2018 reference
Gogeta: **fuses in a fan made animation to win**
Also Gogeta: *apes together strong.*
This Made me laugh a lot more than it should of
You idiot..you needed to post this comment with an account named lord frieza with friezas picture
This is actually very nice thing , i mean Frieza called Sayans Apes , but Apes toghether strong .
@@gamerstrice4731 its just proof that frieza is becoming a cheerleader side character
@@timo4258 eh, more of a snarky one at that
Me: the perfect late birthday present doesn't exi-
Hyourinjutsu:
Hyourinjustu:Hold My Beer
@@pyroticphoenix1846
You mean Hetap, right?
This is an early birthday present for me!
happy birthday! :D
Little Professor It’s a late birthday for me.
"Fusing is to cheat everything! You don't deserve this power!
OK, Jasper. Chill out.
😂😂😂
Ahahahahhahahah
A Steven Universe fan I see lmao.
LMAO
Why do i get it? Cause Steven Universe is Awesome? Yes
The fact that gogeta is a separate warrior and he did goku and vegetas wishes is wholesome...
Yes very wholesome and honestly while vegito maybe is stronger but I'm not sure gogeta got the better drip and cooler attacks STAR DUST BRAKER!
@@cheryllochansingh4831Gogeta is the Cooler Daniel.
@@concept5631 Yes
@@cheryllochansingh4831if i remember vegito has the more power but gogeta doesn't has to worry about time limit being reduced with transformations, basically if both went ssjb, vegito would defuse before gogeta
@@OHGAS-rt5uc no
the retcon is that both are equal, also no matter the time limit both will defuse
keep in mind gogeta progressed forms while vegito went fp immediately
"Vegeta? Why don't we fuse to defeat him?
"Ghhh.. THAT WOULD BE TOO CONVENIENT KAKAROT!"
Because vegeta is a prideful
Vegeta is still prideful in DBS: Broly
@@eduarrddo
Vegeta is always too prideful for fusion wdym lol! 😂
Vegeta don't like fusion on bit, "strange" if he go out his character and rely on it, wouldn't be the same for Dragon Ball super?!
1:36
1:43
2:09
3:10
When you try to get your combos right in fighting games.
Jiren:*powers through spirit bomb*
Gogeta:Ah shit,here we go again
lma0
CJ ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN!
It’s definitely interesting to think now that Jiren hates Goku and Vegeta instead of respecting them. It leaves me wondering what would happen if they met again.
Well, we don’t know if he HATES them. This is kinda similar to the manga in that the Universe 7 fighters use teamwork to win. After Jiren loses to said teamwork, I feel like he’d finally understand his major flaw, just like in the manga.
Broly was equal or slightly stronger than ssj gogeta in his legendary form so where might that rank him vs jiren?
@@dariusmoore4670 Well he was probably stronger than first omen goku, as he was stronger than both SSJBE Vegeta and SSJBKKX20 Goku.
Now depending on if all of the zenkai boosts and artificial power ups to their bases in the tournament of power were actually there, you COULD make a argument he was still stronger than Second omen Goku.
Either way, Broly still gets madstomped by Jiren.
@@conscripthornet4430 ehh idk about madstompped maybe if jiren makes it quick and tries to finish him right away but if he drag it out Broly could adapt
@@squidsofty8507 perhaps it's a harder to swallow pill now. given that before, goku himself, essentially ALONE, was the one to thoroughly defeat jiren by himself, one on one. Only for jiren's change in character after being met with an undeniable defeat, to progress gradually as he fought the remnants of universe 7. Here though, it's literally JUST the fusion that takes on jiren, back to back, and even then does NOT undeniably defeat him, as their own person: rather than it being a lone fighter initially defeating him (which jiren resonates with on a basic level), with that person being empowered and strengthened by others that support him: it's the proof that it's ONLY through teamwork, that anyone was able to defeat him. Thus further solidifying the mindset of "cheating" and "true strength" that jiren will continue to uphold.
jiren: "NOOOO you can't just fuse while i fight on my own!"
gogeta: "haha fusion go brrrrrrt"
Goku vegeta: we go brrrr
I'am BR and you two sucks
I smell something it smells like a *OVERUSE JOKE*
@@User_Here414 an* overused*
“Yo Toppo come down here”
bruh
The way Gogeta spams his ki blast attacks like in the movie, used here, it's too perfect
Bruh why u gotta say he spams his ki blasts like its a video game 😂
gogeta never was in the anime doe
@@seanbrown7083 yeah he was for surely fucking spamming Broly
@@beanboy9029 He was literally just in the new movie
@RxJulio they were laced with God ki too.
Would have laughed so hard if Gogeta's wish was to stay permanently fused
Wag-wan Kenobi lMAO
Vegeta and Goku : F*ck !
Vegito : WHY !!!!
That Would Be Amazing
Gogeta gone sentient. Be like fuck it let me reborn into a proper person
And then instead of relaying the wish to Super Shenron Zeno would just destroy him and universe 7 for making a selfish wish
Piccolo: Gogeta's afraid of going blue because Vegito hardly lasted 5 minutes because of Blue's sheer power
Gogeta: *Goes Blue literally right after they say that
Gogeta: SUCK IT! DBS Broly says I can stay fused for 30 minutes no matter what, HAHA!
@@nathanevans1382 Ugh you're right. Jesus Super cant be consistent to save its life.
@@stormcutter59 How is it inconsistent? It was never confirmed that power causes Fusions to defuse, except in GT, in Z it was just an assumption, just like the assumption that Buu's body caused Vegito to defuse, if it wasn't confirmed it's not inconsistent. Super has given us an official explanation as to why Vegito defused, and I personally believe the reason Gotenks defused earlier than he should've wasn't because of power, but because of how unstable Super Saiyan 3 is, and since Super Saiyan Blue isn't an unstable form in the Anime, it didn't shorten the Fusion. And to be honest, all of that was for the best, do you really want to watch Gogeta for a mere five minutes, if not less? No, of course not.
@@nathanevans1382 I dont know what you're talking about. Vegito only lasted 5 minutes in the Goku Black arc because of the power of the fusion being too great to maintain. The show told us this and yet we see Gogeta staying fused for 30 minutes no matter what in the Broly movie which continues from that show. What changed other than a change in logic? That's inconsistent.
And before you say it's different fusions so it works differently doesnt it seem weird the fusion that was susceptible to powering down over time and had a time limit is NOW the fusion that is far more stable, and lasts a lot longer than the one we were led to believe was permanent?And no, Potara fusion was permanent before in Z, Old Kai did not lie to Goku. It is strongly implied in the manga and anime that Vegito defused because the barrier they had went off. They split the moment they turned it off as well you cant tell me it had nothing to do with Buus body. That's ridiculous the language of the scene in all mediums totally illustrates this to us, even Goku and Vegeta imply it a bit afterwards. The barrier is even focused on with the camera before the split occurs. The lack of a barrier is the reason Buus body split their form.
So it was a retcon of a retcon, Super changes the rules to serve its shitty writing and I'm sorry but shitty is just what it is. That's inconsistent and no argument you can come up with disproves it. These are just facts.
@@stormcutter59 A. The Dance is different from the Potara, currently it stands as the Dance lasts 30 minutes no matter what and the Potara lasts an hour for mortals unless they are far too strong. B. Implication is not confirmation, just because it was implied that Buu's body caused Vegito to defuse, doesn't mean it was confirmed, we got a confirmed explanation in Super. C. The Elder Kai might not have lied, but he could've been wrong, in fact Super outright says he was wrong. D. It's not a retcon.
My favorite thing about this whole battle is the fact that Gogeta despite being his own person still respected what Goku and Vegeta would've wanted despite the fact that there was not obligation to do so it's just so wholesome to me
Whis: Why didn't he turn blue from the start?
Hyorinjutsu: I had a hard time finding the blue sprites.
Krillin said that not Whis XD
Akira: Its a pain in the ass to paint the hair
@@caralho5237 lmao
to be fair 5 minutes is literally like 20% of the tournament and would’ve been wayyy too risky lmao
@@buincqv67 they would've had around 2 mins 30 secs so only ten percent.
Gogeta: SPIRIT FLASH!!!!
Me: Wait wut?!?!
ŁukAshe bruh that had me hype af
Why was spirit flash not a thing?!
@Michael Liang Nah man. More like;
Jiren; How cute. He named it- (*Gogeta launch a Kamehameha for more power*)OH SHIT!!
My whole universe is at stake here Grey boy, got no time to whine about this being unfair or whatever.
Jiren: WHERE'S YOUR HONOR?!!?!?
Vegeta: FUCK THE FUSION -unfuses Goku-
I like how they defused and still kept there own forms that was cool and sick thumbs up from me pal :)
I agree that was epic
"Gogeta deserves a wish"
Wholesome
Amagine his wish being to stay fused forever
@@burp3267 Cabba: WHY?!?!
Deserves ‘his’ wish
@@jakedl2948 You get the idea.
@@jakedl2948 what’s wrong with that?
Jiren: Fusion is just a cheap trick to make weak Saiyans stronger!!
Gogeta: R u SuRe AbOuT tHaT?!
steven universe reference. i like
@@Xxmalique12xX I was about to reply pretty much the same thing
Lol steven universe
Me : Yes Gogeta we are sure
XD He literally did say that XD
Gotta love how Gogeta defused before the battle ended, but he still won.
Did most of the back work, probably the mvp like how 17 was
(Also just realized in this story, 17 is actually dead and Frieza just doesn’t help)
@@IamtotallyDie why would 17 be dead?
@@grenadier20 self distruction
@@BlackedOutPlays he didn't actually self destruct, he was just pretending to do it. he wouldn't be able to do it anyway because the bomb that was planted inside of him was removed in the cell saga
4:23 Tien- he can’t risk going blue now
4:52 Gogeta- goes blue
Literally nobody:
Hyourinjutsu: *makes the best sprite animations the dbz community has to offer*
Nah more like:
Nobody:
No soul:
Nope still nobody:
No fucking one:
Hyourinjutsu: I'm gonna work for like months on an awesome animation that no one asked for and is hand down the best sprite fight in youtube
I've seen better but this is definitely top tier
@@joeblazer3429 *Like what?*
Joeda 900 exactly
@@joeblazer3429 Nooo tbh not😂😂😂
Goku:Hey Vegeta lets fuse!
Vegeta:Wow! Nice idea Kakarot! Lets do it!
Me:Wait,thats illegal
@Jonathan Jimenez whoooooosh
@@dinadoorknob but 1) its not annd
2) it wasnt funny
@@dinadoorknob yes he is right it is not funny
@@ainsley5885 Fuck off bitch
@@ainsley5885 Fuck off Bitch.. Idiots these days
What I love about this is its using the logic Super decided to stick with at the end of the series. The fact the regular red God form is more energy efficient than Blue, when before the TOP arc we were told that the blue form was the ultimate form for ki control, meaning it was the most energy efficient form by far. Good for you to work with the limited logic of power scaling the show gives you and making it work as best it can. Hopefully the show doesnt retcon itself, again, when it comes back. You're the only guy who makes logical sense with power scaling in Dragon Ball, and I love your videos even more for it.
Well, Blue isn't able to be maintained forever for one reason: Blue was a result of combining SSGod with Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan is a strain on the body, so it makes sense that the strain is there in SSBlue as well since it's the Super Saiyan power at it's core. The normal god form isn't as strained on the body since all he has to do is contain his ki in his base form to make it work (at least as far as we know, there's probably more to it than that that we don't know). I always assumed that keeping ki contained in the body if you're not a full god is dangerous to the body (I doubt the body can handle energy that's supposed to be expelled to be contained instead), but that's just my own headcanon.
@@Hei_Darkfire See this is the problem with the show tho they make this very hard to discern for the fans. First they make it sound like the Blue form is the most efficient and powerful form due to the mastery of God ki. It's how Goku and Vegeta even attain the form, they keep their ki within the limits of their body for efficient use. I mean it doesnt make sense since this is how they mastered Super saiyan but I'll let it slide since this is a different type of ki they're using. However this went away later on and they instead brought back the Red form we previously thought was just "a part" of Gokus base form since Beerus said "he absorbed the energy inside his body" but whatever I guess it's a form now? So now Red God Goku is the most energy efficient form and Blue Goku is the stress heavy form for some reason or another. No explanations given we just accept this contradictive info. If they had just kept it consistent like they did for Z this would have been much easier for us to follow.
@@stormcutter59 Okay. I think something is messed up with your understanding here of the forms, so let me clear it up. It actually is fairly consistent in Super. First: Yes, SSBlue is the most efficient and powerful form (and the top god power they have currently if you don't count Ultra Instinct and Blue Evolution), but it takes the most stamina and power to maintain while SSGod takes less stamina than SSBlue, but it's weaker (but it takes more stamina than normal Super Saiyan forms, but is more powerful than them). Transformations usually follow one simple logic: Higher level transformations require more stamina and power to maintain, but they're much stronger. Super goes by that logic too. Each level upward is more powerful but causes more strain.
As for the Beerus comment, it wasn't that Goku got the god form in his base form, it was that his base form got a powerup from the god power and he became stronger. He didn't gain anything else other than a simple power increase from the god power. I don't wanna overcomplicate it, so I'll explain it like this: Goku went SSGod, and his body adapted to being able to handle that power and his base form got stronger as a result. He isn't god in base or something, if he were, then he'd be SSGod all the time.
@@Hei_Darkfire I believe DBS Broly retconed it by making Blue more similar to how it is initially in the manga: agressive like Super Saiyan and isn't as energy effencient as Super Saiyan God.
6:39 Jiren: *Looks at viewer* "I WON'T LOSE."
Me: "Yes sir 😰"
lmfao
Ahaha it’s comments like these that make me smile🤣😂 hope you & your loved ones are all doing well thru this pandemic sir.
He lied to us. A warrior doesn't lie. >:[
Or Me in the spirit of Happy: Aye Siiir! :D
Actually he was looking at the edge
Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Kaioken X20 (inhale)... *GOD DAMN*
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Evolution Kaioken X20
@@Lewdile no
@@Lewdile
Keep it short and Super Saiyan blue Evolution Kaioken times 20
@@captainsimp8864 Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Evolution Kaoiken Times Twenty.
@@Skillerikx 🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂😂😭
I honestly love how you flesh out a character with their dialogue, you're just a fan with only the information provided by the creators and yet you have a deeper understanding than them.
I wonder how the series of Dragon Ball would go if Hyourin-senpai was the director.
It would definitely get better though,i mean just look at how those directors at Toei handle the series(but still i feel sorry for them due to how rushed the schedule was).
Dragon Ball Hero would be the perfect series for Hyourin,it took weeks between episodes,multiple timelines and didn't have too much logic to begin with.
@@caesar5588 Dragon Ball Heros is just a promotional anime. It's to promote the game. There's gonna be a new season of Super this June or July
But Goku and Gogeta says Bastard so....
Na An They curse a lot in the not kids version
This is by far the best little mini-film that I've ever seen! I love the 8-bit themes and styles and it was so unique about what you did with it! I enjoyed watching this so much that I actually shared this with my friends! Keep up the amazing work my friend!
Broly was equal or slightly stronger than ssj gogeta in his legendary form so where might that rank him vs jiren?
To those of you who are wondering how they can fly in the tournament of power, we can just safely assume that they used air blasts to propel them selves like android 17 did except without ki. And only levels at Gojira and Jiren’s power level can do so.
4:30
Tien:There are 3 minutes left.He can’t risk going blue now.
20 seconds later
Gogeta:(TURNS BLUE)
yup
that's Gogeta for you
ALT
That’s dragonball for us
@@sinistor3727 Touche
Tien: Am I A joke to you
@@crimsonxiv8184 Tu é br né?
Me: Just Sitting Around Doing Nothing
Hyourinjutsu: Not Anymore!
**Shows Vid**
Me: *HYPPPEE*
Goruko Uzumaki Jr bro I see you on all the wumbo combo vids
@@afro_robin2433 Ayye thanks My Guy
Gogeta being acknowledged as an actual person is refreshing 😮💨
This was animated and choreographed perfect. Exactly how the fight should look, well done🔥
Hyourinjutsu: _Uploads video_
Me: *_LITERALLY DROPS EVERYTHING I'M DOING AND WATCHES_*
I knew i wasn't the only one
Same xD
agreed
Same here
same bro he got the best what if battles
Grand Priest: State your wish Gogeta.
Gogeta: Make me stay fused forever.
Grand Priest: What?
Chi-Chi & Bulma: WHAAAAAT?!
Double the duty to please those booty's! Gogeta is a playa.😎
Ik this is a thing u made up but,
If that would happen, that would be stupid, gogeta would never do that especially goku and vegeta (which both of the is gogeta but oki)
TypetwoAbsolute can they make a spin off of them staying fused forever that would be litty
Then Zeno just erases everything.
@@gangshit3483 Vegito was supposed to be fused forever as far as we knew so they could make a spin off from Buu Saga.
1:49 I like how you gave this Gogeta bigger hands. It’s makes me think it’s movie like and some of the moves he does
I didn't even notice gogeta eyes was moving when he was choosing who to pick 😱 0:01
Dame I didn't either
i did, mostly because it's a mega man stage select screen, and mega does that too.
Dude you have to create a game with the same 8-Bit style animation 🤦🏽♂️💯 these videos are legendary
DdStrf that’ll take a lot of work trust me I know
DivineEntity give us a breakdown of how much work this would take then
Butsqueak Fighter factory is time consuming. It takes a while to do one character and lots of coding.
I prefer the one used in Blu Vs Super Saiyan 4 honestly.
@Eros Matthew Montallana I see. But it would be awesome to see a version of that one.
*that moment when you realize they were flying during the tournament of power*
Hold Up
THATS ILLEGAL. >:( I'm calling toryiama
Eh. They get a pass cause the fight is cool.
There not flying there fallen with style
Duh of course
I wish this video was an actual game in real life and if it was I'd play it all the time
Such a shame THIS didn't happened in the show! This fight is epic. Beautiful!
This ain't the real Jiren. The real Jiren would've said alot more "Owari Da"
jiren golden hearts is gonna slap to you bug gogeta is coming in episode 17 to fight hearts gold fofm so
Jiren favts
fusion hfusion heroes is trash and it's an ad
@@gogitothetruefusion1431 It's Non Cannon You Fuckin Pussy Gogeta!
I know man, SSB Gogeta or SSB Vegito wasn't even closer to Jiren's half of the power, not even quarter, man!
He protecc
He atacc
but most importantly
People always face Jiren's bacc
sprite animation shouldn't look this good and smooth, yet you amaze me everytime
DUDE!
Your videos are the BEST!
I really enjoyed watching this one. It actually felt like watching a really good 90's videogame.
Please make many more of these ♥ You deserve a lot of recognition!
Universe 7: "He can't risk going blue!"
Gogeta: *goes Evolved Kaioken x20*
Universe 7: *Am I a joke to you?*
So his meme is a joke to you.
***AMAZING! MISSION COMPLETE! THAT RIGHT THERE IS WHY YOU'RE THE BEST, BOSS!***
A "excuse me wtf" would be better
@@stillnousername9796
They're gonna tell stories about this one Boss!
yea that meme is old now
Yol Riin Lask
Wait isn't that the point of a meme thou-
I love how in the command list Goku has almost nothing to offer to the combined attacks except for kamehameha, it's painfully accurate lmao
also has the bind
Mocro ninja I think he meant a side Kameha (wich isnt even his original move) and solar flaire Goku aint dont much
The only new thing he did was the Ki-land mine against Jiren and that ki-bind against Brôly(and Hakai in manga)
Nno, I meant Goku doesn't give Gogeta almost any attacks besides the kamehameha (and god bind, hence "almost")
Personality-wise Gogeta is way more Goku than Vegeta
@@Gamelover1214 oh ok
Why try to fix what isn't broken?
Your animation is simply amazing and incredibly entertaining. Outstanding work, attention to details is spot on too!
Na moral quem colocou Legendas nos videos do Hyourinjutsu é uma boa alma
Tá aí um bom motivo pra aprender inglês. Pra não depender de legenda e tradução.
Real
This man Hyourinjutsu is underrated bruh. For real his vids are amazing
Agree
Totally agree
Definitely agree
Yeah Hyourinjutsu is currently my no 1 favorite DBZ animator with Mellavelli comes as second.Mastar Media didn't come close to them.
This was soooo dumb
I love how Jiren is just being BM the whole time. It's like going 0-2 in tournament and saying that it doesn't count because your opponent picked top tiers
Even whis and beerus said: No one can't beat them if they fused!...
They have a lot of skills and power
Gogeta blue:pushes jiren with finget blasts
Also gogeta:becomes 400x stronger... Barely able to push jiren
Me: ...ok
yep .. one blast finger like this would shave him off the arena
yes a false 400x
I know right? Vegeta and Goku were barely able to hit Jiren, let alone push him off. That 400x thing shouldn’t be possible either. A person’s strength is limited to the abilities of the one they are fusing with. It’s why Vegito couldn’t go SS3. Then again, Gotenks can so I don’t know. The rules are just kind of muddied. Also, almost every time a decision happens, they pop apart as if at random and stop what they are doing, yet here they didn’t.
@@ryanb.7751 keep in mind Vegito in his BASE is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks by leagues, and then add ontop a Super Saiyan
You can start to see the difference
Melancholic Thinker I mean, that’s an assumption because the two never actually fight and Buu never uses any modifiers such as supersaiyan, although I do think you are correct. Simply because Gotenks appeared to put in more effort fighting Buu before he was absorbed while Vegito tossed him around without effort at all. However, that still doesn’t explain how Gotenks is able to go Super Saiyan 3 as most sources say the powers build on each other not gaining new abilities, just building off each other. My point is just that even though fusion is incredibly strong, it also seems incredibly inconsistent.
Interesting how this ToP ends with a Jiren that hates Goku and Vegeta instead of one that respects them
Edit: No idea how this managed to get almost 2k likes, but uh, thanks? Probably should've expected the battle in the replies tbh
I find that to be wierd logic. Jiren lost the ToP to a team assault. It ended with him respecting Goku, although maybe the difference here is that whereas in the original, MUI Goku primarily fought and wore Jiren down, here it WAS the fusion that did all that.
Zero Wolf no mui goku didn’t beat jiren when he was weak he gave him energy and jitendra respected him for that
@@anthonynnaka5454 He didn't beat Jiren when he was weak because UI messed up his body, what?
In the anime Jiren fought at full power against MUI Goku, where they essentially tested each other's ideologies. He respected Goku because despite being two different views, it was still one-on-one. Here, Jiren viewed it as cheating from the start
@@anthonynnaka5454 Nobody gave jiren energy what are you on about?
So well done. I really enjoy this has an alternative to what went down in the anime version of ToP
since Jiren fell off the stage when Goku and Vegeta unfused, wouldnt they be the ones who get to use those super dragon balls? instead of Gogeta? technically they both defeated Jiren while unfused right?
Gogeta was the one who launched the final attack. It could be interpreted that once he defused, Goku and Vegeta only kept Gogeta's beam up long enough to push Jiren off.
@@creativename1673 even tho the Beam also seperated into 2?
@@hoshiryu it could be argued that atomic kamehameha are just the combination of those two beams fired from one being, therefore, the two firing the beams would create a, while weakened, equivalent to an atomic kamehameha
The question would who is the winner if Gogeta isn't ? I'm not sure they established what to do in case of a tie.
@@Kinra_Jade Probably the mvp like 17
Jiren: FUSING IS JUST CHEAT
Gogeta: U mad bro?
Imagine jiren with mui or 2 jiren fusion.
FORMIDABLE BEASTS Gogeta: AND THIS GOES EVEN FURTHER BEYOND *Goes Ultra SSB3*
@@averageganyusimp LOL.
Gogeta: AND THIS GOES EVEN MORE MORE MORE FUTHER BEYOND! Goes Master ultra instinct perfected super saiyan blue 3 evolution kaioken x20
FORMIDABLE BEASTS Jiren does use mui, He used it against holy in the TOP, Goku MUI VS Jiren.
Vegeta without gloves disturbed me more than I thought it could.
I like to call this the "Sonic effect"
@@autisticduck3071 lol
@@autisticduck3071 I got that one!🤣
@@autisticduck3071 oh fuck
@@xmace6206 I don't get it can you explain?
Jiren: “Fusion? Nonsense, it’s over.” -Power Impacts Gogeta-
Nahh gogeta stomps
Jack the legendary Devil hunter Explain how Gogeta stomps Jiren please.
@@ChaoticMysteriousEntity base gogeta was stronger than blue goku post TOP and the gap between base and SSB is far larger than the gap between SSB and ultra instinct.
Jack the legendary Devil hunter That’s head cannon right there. Please actually explain real facts instead of your own personal opinion. I’ll wait, because there’s no evidence that states that bs.
@@ChaoticMysteriousEntity this isn't bullshit. It's a fact.
Damn the animation and coriography is out of this world
Man, I value your logic and explanations for alternate reasonings and abilities. Keep it up, man! I really appreciate your content.
Logic was out the window here. Jiren is weaker than broly and broly was getting bodied by just ss1 before blue even came out. Jiren ain't touching anything past base gogeta
Jacob Craz lmao watch Seth video unless u think Seth is BaiSEd EVeN THoUgh He SHoWS EViDenCe🤣!👌
Jacob Craz your logic went out the window when u said jiren was weaker than Broly
@@jacobcraz8487 Jiren is stronger than Broly. Jiren and UI Goku shock the World of Void. Gogeta and Broly broken dimensions for only a moment, that feat isn't impressive as we seen that already before.
1. Jiren
2. Gogeta
3. Broly
I'm sure if Jiren and Gogeta fights, it won't be easy for Jiren. I see Gogeta as UI Goku level from T.O.P
SsbeKkx20 Gogeta.
Sounds like a math probelm XD
Adam The Typical Gamer Kaioken Blue Evolution x20 x’D
Blue evolution x20. Just to shorten it a bit
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Evolved Kaioken times 20
Now say it again 2 times faster 5 times
Jonathan Peter super saiyan blue evolution kaioken x20
The original name of ssjb is ssgss=super saiyan god super saiyan,then so it's for evolution too.
Amazing work bro, just discovered your channel and instantly a huge fan
Keep up these amazing fights!
"Fusing is to cheat everything! You don't deserve this power!"
Gogeta: 🎵"But I'm stronger than you."🎵
-bruh what the hell bruh-
It's kinda crazy that we went from wanting Gogeta 4 vs Vegito Blue, to wanting Gogeta Blue vs Vegito Xeno 4.
Lol my exact thoughts
yea it should be like this Gogeta SSJ4 vs Vegito ss4 and Gogeta SSJB vs Vegito ssb
@Eli Appiah You appear to be confused. Of course pre-ToP Goku and Vegeta would be weaker. However, I'm talking about 4 different fusions here.
You're aware of Gogeta Blue and Vegito Blue. Gogeta 4 is Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, from Dragon Ball GT. Vegito Xeno 4 is Super Saiyan 4 Vegito from the Dragon Ball Heroes stuff.
@Eli Appiah you have to remember they could use the potara earrings anytime and it would be just as strong as gogeta
@Eli Appiah I thought it was basically stated during the Broly movie release that Potara = Dance. (Or dance is a bit stronger while potara is longer). I forgot what exactly but it basically shut down the whole Potara > Dance debate. So it should and would make an interesting battle.
I mean, technically, Goku and Vegeta took the win as the last standing, since they unfused before they took out Jiren.
But it was still Gogeta’s Blast that took him out, even if Goku and Vegeta defused.
Firstname Lastname I mean, Goku and Vegeta can make a final kamehameha, or Galick Kamehameha like in the DBS Broly movie, so that doesn’t really count as Gogetas blast when they unfused.
cobanerdanny456 late but, the universe survival saga happens before broly shows up, so this is still Gogeta's move until both goku and vegeta use it on broly separately.
H Ow? I’m just using the scene from DBS Broly as an example.
Goku and Vegeta can make a combined Kamehameha+Final Flash separately, cobanerdanny is right, Goku and Vegeta won by ring out, not Gogeta.
god i just clicked on this video to watch again, didn't realize it was already a year old.
10:30 now i understand the "What-If #15" in the credits of What-If #14 lol
I still don't understand the after credits scenes at all. The latest uploads after credits scene, show parts of a video that came out 3 years ago... can you explain what you understand to me lol
5:15
I love how despite DBZ is now kinda forgotten and everyone is focused on DBS and other new DB stuff, Perfect Cell's theme is STILL being used because of its badassery.
Best Dragon Ball theme ever for me.
WHAT IS THE MINUTE SONG CALLED
5:15
It’s Perfect Cell’s theme.
@@superjulian7470 Perfect Cell's Theme
Gogeta:Final Kamehameha!
Vegito:Am I a joke to you?
He kinda is alittle does zamasu fight alittle nerded you know
Vegito: Bing Bang Kamehameha!
Gogeta: Am I a joke to you?
gogeta:Spirit bomb
goku: Am I a joke to you ?
Gogeta and Vegito: FUUU... SION... HA!!
Me: Wait, that's illegal.
Scruffy Gamer it can happen in heroes so who knows really or some other timerelated thing causes two fusions to exist in one existence
7:47 VEGETA: FALL OFF THE STAGE, JIREN!
MEANWHILE
GOKU: LET'S FIND ANOTHER TIME JIREN!
Late to make a mention on this: We gonna ignore that Goku's moveset is so small that the combination screen is him using Kamehameha with 3 separate attacks of Vegeta?
@Big Riff You’re funny considering I like 16, 17, and 18 more than either of the main characters of “The Saiyan Show feat. Supporting Cast”.
*8 words and I'm yours*
Super Saiyan Blue Evolved Gogeta Kaioken x20
Mastered Ultra Instinct Gogeta... I don't even need to say more
@@FilthyFrankenjoyer well hello sexy
@GloriousTapeworm
Power ranger super saiyan confirmed
@GloriousTapeworm Seyyyy What XD
7 Ayyyy
Gogeta : (defuse)
Goku : it's not over yet...!!
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Captain America : oh I know that reference.
Underrated Comment
Wat
Ayyyyyy
Civil war?
Basil Alli wat
Anytime I rewatch the Tournament of Power it just feels like there was 3-4 endings. I like this providing something of a more concrete finale/final battle instead of what we got.
Love attention to detail where goku threw his arm down and started catching his breath stood up and took his stance ❤️
*WHAT IF* All Of your *WHAT IFS* were connected
Two of them are for sure, both the ones that involved Goku Black
Considering that he's including Super Dragon Ball Heroes, it's safebto assume that they're all connected in their own way of being alternate timelines.
The credits show a scene setting up the next fight, which will be between Xeno Vegito and the Gogeta we just saw. Involving the Time Patrollers basically confirms they're all kind of connected lol
That Would Be Epic AF
They all are
It's a hard matchup because we don't know what Gogeta's full capabilities are and we don't know his limits yet. If yall remember, he bodied an overpowered Broly like it was nothing.
Cuz of plot
@@stupidbodoh597 no, not really
@@MyLife-og2kr k was not sure both most main characters have plot armour
@@stupidbodoh597 every hero has plot armor.
@@MyLife-og2kr invincible: am I a joke to you?! I’m not very-title card
Jiren: "Fusing is cheating"
Gogeta: "Sounds like a you problem"
This is your best animation, even though i basically love them all. The writing, bgm, animation, everything is on point
Alternate universe: Goku: Have fun frieza!
Oh my god...
HE IS BACK WITH A NEXT LVL FIGHT
Dio Brando saying "OH MY GOD"... NANI?!?
Kono pawa!!
This was surprisingly well done
I've just found this and I can't believe I haven't found it sooner, absolutely amazing video man props to you! New subscriber in me! 👌
NO WAY
MY WISH WAS GRANTED
YOUR GOING TO MAKE SSJ4 VEGETO VS SSJB GOGETA
YOU ARE THE BEST
How's Jonathan's body DIO
@@tamimyaseen6013 Watch JJBA parts 1 through 3, then you'll understand
@@thebadger622 pretty normal but he got a nice ass
Me: sees this video:
*Clicks it at a faster than light speed.*
"Is this the power of Ultra instinct?"
what is an undertale fan doing here?
Yea i did not read the title
I just click by thinking dragon ball and this video poped up
I love undertale and dragonball
_Y_ -e- _s_
@@sonzenith9669 literally what ever he wants
i love how you can tell Gogeta God was just playing with Jiren, even as Blue, we know that he can wipe the floor with Jiren, It’s just cool seeing Gogeta actually have his own personality with wanting to play with all the time he has allocated to his existence
You put a lot of time into this and honestly I love it. Aye, I'ma DBZ fan✊🏿
*Fusion Reborn Gogeta theme*
Gogeta: I am nethier Goku nor Vegeta I am Gogeta ! It's over Jiren I've come for you !
jıren: NANI
@@GokuSolosInfinitely Imagine a Goku and Kenshiro fusion he can hit you with a ki blast and kill you no matter how strong you are.
No just n9
Duncan Price that would be very strong but boring I’m sorry but it would be only because of how strong it is
I mean design wise it might be good
@@mrbuttocks6772 Mosou Tensei Instinct = RIP Beerus
Frieza and 17 are both still on the stage too so they would have won anyway due to numbers
The best Fighter on the stage on the wining team gets a wish.
@@melancholicthinker9291 I thought it was the last universe or fighter left gets the wish
@@thunderlordabove420 Last fighter gets it but if there are multiple fighters on the same team then the best fighter deemed by the Omni Kings, get the wish.
If there are multiple people from different universes still there when it ends then the best fighter among the winning team gets it.
well it is a what if so maybe they where knocked off in this universe
@@IShitFreshRazorBlades even still, jiren is outnumbered.
The best sprite animator in all of YT. I love your animations
i would pay to see this in a animation style like DBS Broly did
That one saiyan that never got humiliated...
Also Vegito
@@sweg1346 cumber
Prototype V24 Cumber.exe
@@luh_marc3202 the power scaling is all fucked up in heroes vegito can easily beat cumber no sweat
zeus117 Jackson you right power scaling was thrown out the window and yeah golden metal cooler is op we saw him by himself demolish the two fighters who gave UI a hard time (even tho UI is shit cause it’s insta dodge and slight power up) cumber was so cool when he came out that I honestly thought he’d get more of a reckoning but we have what he is now where he’s merely a weakling yeah he and jiren are equals he still can go ssj4 so that might even the battle even more plus jiren seems weaker in heroes tho him loosing or at least stale mating with fused zamasu makes sense as he’s just making zamasu stronger and he can’t damage him either(damage to kill I mean )
that ending with vegito: xeno is beautiful
“Fusion is cheap.”
Jasper and Jiren seem to show a resembling conclusion, after getting their ass handed by some.
6:55 like how Gogeta turned SSJBE