I'm new to Linux, and Wayland was pretty much unusable with my RTX 3060, everything flickered like crazy, especially Steam and games, I even tried different distros like Fedora, KDE Neon and also tried specific Nvidia drivers, but nothing worked, I was pretty much certain I had to unfortunately go back to Windows even though I dislike Windows and love everything about the Linux concepts, and no, using x11 isn't an option to me because it's just too old, I don't have graphical issues with it, but games and even the desktop experience is extremely choppy even at high refresh rates. Then I noticed there was a beta driver number 555, and decided I had to give it a try before switching back to Windows, had a lot of trouble trying to install it in other distros, but managed to easily install it on my Garuda Linux, and everything was magically fixed, I can't describe how everything is just so smooth in my 240hz monitor and I have no graphical issues at all, I can finally stay using Linux.
There shouldn't be, its hybrid mode meaning the drivers will use the gpu when needed for gaming or other heavy tasks I hear with the newest feature branch driver the experience with Nvidia laptops is a lot better
Makes me laugh how you lot act like linux is some holy grail and you're some kind of hero for using it. Yer windows is bloated but at least it just works. Good luck realising that your apps will corrupt or crash because they need to make it work with wayland, good luck with your flatpaks missing basic features (discord) and wondering why it has no permissions. Good luck with something breaking for no reason then spend a day in terminal hoping you dont break something trying to fix it. And good luck hoping your app dont crash because of wayland/xwayland shit that linux users will have to, yet again, wait for years to catch up xD but yer, year of linux just around the corner! Good luck when your games dont work and you need to google the 10 launch options you need to maybe reach the main reason. But sure, Linux just works and is so good! stick it to the man
For the Halo loading issue, you can go into the game files and delete the startup/loading movie. I can't remember the exact directory, but that fixed the issue for me when I was having it.
That issue was solved a while ago, i can get past that part, its the loading part that freezes the game now, on amd their is no problem forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/regression-550-54-14-halo-infinite-permanently-hangs/284441/ This might be the right issue page unsure
I was using the 555.58 driver on plasma 6.1 wayland earlier and I have to say it was the exact opposite of your experience, I had visual glitches with steam UI, plasma windows being laggy and sometimes even becoming unresponsive and firefox kept crashing. Probably to be expected on a beta driver lol but I've now switched back to 550
@@linuxnext Actually it's only in a "New Feature Branch", not production branch 🤓 But for real now, there's always someone that has issues with Nvidia's new driver series
i thought of trying on this driver, but looked on their website, the one that contains CUDA or in debian repo's are still 555.42.02, so i think i have to wait a little more.
On Pop Os, using wayland and the drivers 555.42.02, I've had almost no issues so far. The only exception is the Jellyfin player opening on a black screen and I can't get it to load at all (most likely a wayland issue rather than a driver issue). Everything else, games included worked with no issues at all. I'm going to wait for Nvidia to add those new drivers to their repo to be able to switch but I don't really expect it to change anything on my side...nothing that would affect me at least.
I have a jellyfin server and use the jellyfin player under Wayland on amd and Intel, i have no issues with the player id wait for the 555.58 driver aswell then retry as that isnt the latest one im showing in the video It could be that you're running an old version of gnome wayland which is 42.9 i think Cosmic desktop is already better then gnome 42 by a long shot
@@ThePlayerOfGames Look for Nvidia cuda documentation. They have official repos for their drivers for different distro, Ubuntu 22.04 is one of them which is what Pop Os is based on. edit = it's called CUDA installation guide for Linux.
I am still on 550 due to rpm fusion testing the new drivers. vrr is broken on wayland fir me with my nvidia GPU on kde 6.1 wayland. It does set the wrong refreshrate for the monitor which makes everything even worse. Also can't i render anything on another GPU and shiw it via my nvidia gpu if i have IOMMU active. Forza also does crash after some time with my old 2060 but it doesn't crash anymire on my 4090 which is weird. The nvidia drivers are kinda broken for me on X11, i can't use a HDMI 2.1 device on 4K120 and other monitors and on wayland do i need to hotplug that monitor.
only hope is nvidia improving their drivers or what im hoping for is nvk to continue improving their driver for games as the desktop experience on plasma is already good and vrr i think is already in the driver unsure about that tho
i have a 165hz monitor but dont have vrrr enabled (dont have the diplayport cable yet, just HDMI) you said if you dont use Freesync even with just 1 monitor , it feels like crap? Can you elaborate? do i need to go get a displayport cable ASAP and get vrrr for my single monitor? Games do kinda feel weird and input laggy even at 165 hz currently. i use nvidia wayland kde
@zeebpc you can use the old screen tearing api that kde plasma used to use by going to your /etc/environment Sudo nano /etc/environment And adding at the bottom of the config this KWIN_DRM_NO_AMS=1 Ctrl-x, y, enter Restart and you should get screen tearing now The new screen tearing isnt arriving till plasma 6.2 invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/4800
Ok here is the deal with the stable 555 driver. It is much better than the 550 driver for wayland, i would even consider it usable, however and please bear in mind if have not messed with it too much but.. some issues still exist, some of the same, issues for example the external monitor is still bugged out in steam, i get some checker boarding graphical glitches, that resolve when you change tabs. It will be sorted im sure i would commit to switching to wayland but x11 still has slightly less issues
Hey, thermal-throttling can be a problem as i pointed to you on the last video. Lower fps, lower frequencies, stutter, frametime inconsistency, hang etc. Nvidia driver for wayland is completely usable but not perfect i have to admit but keep in mid that your experience is affected by your "faulty" gpu. 😄
Went back to X11.. the XWayland bridge often crashed (ICARUS was biggest offender but its also the games fault since its poorly optimized but doesn't crash on X11) or had peculiar visual glitch performance issues with some game even classics like Counter Strike Source. I agree though the Driver getting better, it fixed some refresh rates issues i had with some games when i ran them under 144hz but i should re-test that part in the future. Spec: Ryzen 9 7900X / RTX 3070 (Driver Version: 555.58.02) / 32GB. EndevourOS (aka 99.997% Arch btw )😏
Yeah xwaylandvideobridge is borked, kde hasnt been maintaining it that well, i dont use it as vesktop uses the normal xdg-desktop-portal for screen sharing and obs uses this also so no need for it anymore ngl atleast for me
yes its garuda, yes the drivers are available now in stable arch repos and i used garudas driver installer to install the drivers from that repo garuda is just arch so the packages they use for drivers come from arch archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&repo=Extra&q=nvidia&maintainer=&flagged=
Better idea is to use integrated GPU for desktop rendering and just let nVidia sit and wait for game or app rendering (use it like hybrid graphics on laptops)
@@jovieasyrof2017 yeah nvidia is working on bringing that to wayland, if you want that you'll need to use x11 sadly for now but just to reasure you that the nvidia devs are porting their control panel stuff to wayland, Maybe the 560 driver will have it which should be sometime next month or the month after
RTX4070 on Fedora, Far Cry 5 stopped working (even to guys on protondb) and on Wayland when i load Call to Arms Ostfront, while game is caching to VRAM, about 10GB Wayland crashes. Wayland is overall much improvement in system, but on gamer side its worse.
@@linuxnext Im pretty new in Linux world with Nvidia, how often NV rollout new drivers ? Do they release some "hotfixes" or we have to wait half year for new rollout ?
@@mrkrenek93 so outside of nvidia drivers you have mesa which includes a multitood of drivers for different hardware this includes intel, amd and now nvidia with nvk Mesa has a feature release which is the new fancy features that improve different drivers inside of mesa every 3 months then they have bug fixes every couple of weeks to fix bugs on the last feature release that happened that being mesa 24.1 The next feature is mesa 24.2 and they also do RC releases meaning release candidate and that goes through testing and more rc releases until they think its ready in that 3 month span docs.mesa3d.org/release-calendar.html Nvk just became usable on the desktop with 24.1 and supports some vulkan extensions for basic vulkan tasks and some very light gaming for now You can test 24.2 rc versions or the git version of mesa from master meaning you will get the latest features that are in development but can cause issues as its the development builds you would be running On arch you can grab like mesa gaming from aur and use that as that maintainer updates his gaming mesa to the latest usually like 24.2 rc right now You will need to remove the nvidia prop drivers also so that you can use nvk and the vulkan-nouveau package for things like steam You can also look at the issues and merge requests if you know what your looking for gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa
Thanks for making linux more mainstream. Microsoft has eliminated itself from my consideration for next OS and Apple isn’t different enough with their AI data scrubbers impending. Linux seems like the only tebable option left.
My few final hurdles: multi monitor VRR. I have a script to disable other monitor on a keybind for gaming but I'm too embarrassed to tell my mates I have to disable my other monitors to game on linux. Also Frame gen isn't supported by nvidia on linux.
Haha yeah i dont know why nvidia hasnt changed it yet, hopefully they do as both amd and intel support it, so it shouldnt be that difficult to do :> Would screen tearing solve this issue or do you like vrr a lot
garuda linux got the 555.58 driver running it in wayland, and the issue Im having is with mangohud, only works with same games. linux native games wont work and other games just get a black screen with sound
I'd really love to try these new drivers for the Nvidia cards but my Pascal 1050Ti isn't supported and I don't have any other GeForce cards as I switched to AMD. So I'm out of luck here.
@@linuxnext I was using a rtx 3060 and a desktop machine, i just gone back to Windows, I guess I'll just wait for the next nvidia driver release to try make the transition. Good video, incredible channel and work, congrats mate!
My main rig has been a laptop with a i9-11980HK/RTX 3080 Mobile for almost 2 years, and I just built an All-AMD Mini ITX rig with a 7950X3D and 7900XTX. I've been team green since the 5950 Ultra (last-gen AGP) so I think I can give fair criticism to NVIDIA. Conclusion / TLDR: I'm done-done with them... unless their drivers become the stuff of legend, or something. The things you mention is just scratching the surface of the problems with NVIDIA nowadays. Rationale: I've had two laptops now where the kernel had no support for CPU or GPU fan control. NONE. The fans would stay at 0 RPM, and this was not obvious. On my most recent laptop I have to use a 3rd party fan control suite (MSI) and manually adjust turbo/etc for the game. Prior to figuring this out, only a handful of games would work, and all of them had thermal throttling issues / stutter, horrific frame timing, just a bad gaming experience. I didn't know how bad it was until I started getting AMD handhelds- GPD Win Max, GPD Win Mini. Those have low power AMD chips and yet ran many games faster at the same resolution than a 3080. And even at lower framerates, it "feels" smoother be it Wayland or X11. Still do with fans maxed. NVIDIA Optimus laptops have serious, serious issues. Switching graphics is not obvious or easy and you will be fighting half the time trying to figure out if the problem is that your game is running on the Intel iGPU. I built an all-AMD rig for the first time a few months ago... its night and day difference. 32:9 240hz displays, HDR, 4k resolutions.... everything, and I mean everything, just works, and its smoother than butter. Games I "sucked" at, I can actually play a bit. Now I know that the jerkiness isn't normal, its a failure of the hardware/software and I won't put up with it for a second longer.
The laptop scene with nvidia can be rlly bad as iv heard, on desktop is alright most things work fine but i agree i also moved to amd and its a night and day difference Im hoping NVK improves quickly as this is very similar to RADV in mesa and already works extremely well on the desktop side of things, excited for mesa 24.2 as this will improve nvk even more so that nvidia can be good on Linux like it is on amd so people dont have to be forced to buy an amd card
Yeah the only bad thing is the store and desktop they use right now is rather old so it has issues Id recommend bazzite until pop os updates to Ubuntu 24.04 and their new cosmic desktop bazzite.gg/ Grab the nvidia iso and you should be good to go
@Totallynotmwa there are still problems for sure not denying that lol I hope for nvk to improve and the nova kernel driver to be upstreamed in the linux kernel so nvidia users can get a better experience with wayland Will see what the 560 driver has in store for nvidia users tho
uninstalled nobara days ago very disappointing os and gaming experience nobara runs very slow and steam games wont launch even proton is installed the button just keep switching color between blue and green tried alot ways to fix that but finally i gave up and reinstalled win11
What filesystem were your games installed on? As I have ran nobara for over a year playing games daily on it on both nvidia and amd without problems with proton. It is based on fedora and I've used that for 2 years on 2 different CPU architectures without any issues please if you don't know the basics of Linux or atleast know that it is not the same as windows don't comment about said distro
@@linuxnext 1 ssd full ext4 with swap,nvidia and intel, only native and small games survived, tried different fixes from communities and discord ,protons,lutris,rollback driver none work
Hey there, After I update the Nvidia game Driver, I feel Shutter and LAG on GTA V and it gives low fps 50-60 FPS on the other hand, before update it gives 100-110 FPS on my Nvidia RTX 2050... How it will fix ??
@@SumitKumar-ed5sx wait 😂 your reporting a issue with the Nvidia driver on windows to me? I would do a reinstall of the driver or use the ddu driver manager to uninstall then do a reinstall If that doesn't work try out bazzite sometime :) bazzite.gg/ www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/
@@linuxnext Encoding. There are massing frame drops, and the 'Stop Recording' features doesn't actual stop recording. I have to press 'Stop Recording' twice to make it stop. However, the video recording are unusable. The Flatpak version is the problem. The one in the AUR seems to work fine.
@@theplaymakerno1 i had the exact same problem and was wondering why it was doing that while gpu screen recorder and steams new recorder were working great Wonder what causes it with flatpak, maybe the depends havent been updated for 555?
@@linuxnext The Flatpak was released after 555 driver. OBS breaks like this sometimes. I am happy that we have different versions that we can use. However, I am not sure why it isn't working right now.
well honestly hdr isnt ready for the regular user, if you want to use hdr you need to use some launch commands and use gamescope to get hdr in games for now if you have nvidia and your using one monitor then vrr can work out of the gate with a new version of kde plasma desktop so a distro like bazzite, arch based distros, fedora kde plasma spin, kde neon will all work for you if your brand new to linux i would give bazzite a try bazzite.gg/ if your using amd or intel gpus you can use vrr with multi monitors on a new version of kde plasma once again like plasma 6.1.1 currently
@@linuxnext As for running games, everything works without problems; I did not have to configure anything. However, I don't know how to set the GPU fans speed (there is an option in Nvidia settings, but it doesn't work). VRR also works without problems, and the lack of HDR atm doesn't bother me. I have noticed that the GPU usage is much lower than on Windows too. Can't wait for steam gaming mode with nvidia cards tho. That would be awesome.
@@pauIaaaa yeah thats something nvidia will add, they created some new code for nvidia fan control under wayland in their nvidia-settings control panel but its not ready yet, maybe their next release they will bring support for it under wayland For now if you want to change it you can change it under x11 by logging out, changing the desktop environment to the x11 variant, then changing it, then going back into wayland and hopefully it stays the same fan speed as you set it up as on x11
Hmm well it shouldnt be long as this driver is considered a feature branch driver but not production ready driver What games are you having issues with or something else?
Bro let me tell you right now, you need to do an OBS tutorial for Linux users with AMD GPUs for both Recording and Streaming settings. There is NOBODY out on RUclips right now with a simple, up to date and easy to understand tutorial that explains how to do it right. So many bad tutorials and even worse videos with outdated information. I know that you're capable of doing this.
@@MegaManNeo yep, there isnt much else rlly, i guess explaining some things might be useful like pipewire, vaapi etc and getting the browser docks working under wayland on kde plasma and gnome
That stuff isnt supported on nvidias linux drivers I dont use nvidia right now on linux either, this video was just to show that these new drivers solve big problems on linux Nvidia may start working on that idk
Ha nope still broken just like fucking wayland black screen or just everything flickering or aritfecting like crazy cant even play factorio....... (wayland suck on laptops)
@@linuxnext arch.... fun thing installing the normal 550 drivers (non beta) and i get a screen again but if i use wayland it the the PC is gone boot with a black screen 70% of the time and it stay like that need to keep restarting the SDDM or keep rebooting until i get a screen and if i try to play factotio or any other game its just flickering/aritfacting its so bad and i dont think its nvidia's fault im pretty sure its wayland and them having not a single good working system for switch able grapihcs.... i think the beta driver was 555.4 somthing or .3 (SO IM STAYING ON XORG where shit fucking works i bet its not a problem on desktop PC's but laptops and there switchable grapichs have all ways bin a problem on wayland)
@startjim123456 have you enabled drm modeset in your grub or systemd bootloader? Idk i have seen lots of people running wayland on nvidia with this driver without problems Here is one redditor who had the same issue and how this person fixed it I resolved by booting into X11 session first to add nvidia_drm.modeset=1 under grub command line in /etc/default/grub. Mine looks like this: Sudo nano /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 quiet nvidia_drm.modeset=1 nvidia_drm.fbdev=1 nvidia.NVreg_PreserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1" Ctrl-x,y, enter Then update the configuration with konsole: sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg And now you shouldn't have a black screen in Wayland session. Make sure you have nvidia-hook installed also
@@linuxnext aa yes modeset the thing that fix's nothing....... yes i added it to systemd even without it does nothing and im gone say it again im 99% sure its a wayland problem with switch able grapichs on laptops....... if use wayland with all the fix's nothing change's and do it without the fixes and nothing changed! use XORG and everything just works
Sounds like you need Mesa Amber: it's an older version of Mesa which supports older hardware; although if that's the case your card must be _really_ ancient. Either way, you might want to look into it (or we could figure it out for you if you'd like to tell us your GPU model). Arch provides `mesa-amber` right in the repo, idk how you'd go about installing such drivers on Debian though.
@@Kris-od3sj I have 2 Radeon R5 340X C870's & 1 Radeon RX550 I typically get a Black screen or a Black Screen w/ a Blinking Cursor, either after a Graphical Install went Well, or after I attempt to install the drivers
I'm new to Linux, and Wayland was pretty much unusable with my RTX 3060, everything flickered like crazy, especially Steam and games, I even tried different distros like Fedora, KDE Neon and also tried specific Nvidia drivers, but nothing worked, I was pretty much certain I had to unfortunately go back to Windows even though I dislike Windows and love everything about the Linux concepts, and no, using x11 isn't an option to me because it's just too old, I don't have graphical issues with it, but games and even the desktop experience is extremely choppy even at high refresh rates. Then I noticed there was a beta driver number 555, and decided I had to give it a try before switching back to Windows, had a lot of trouble trying to install it in other distros, but managed to easily install it on my Garuda Linux, and everything was magically fixed, I can't describe how everything is just so smooth in my 240hz monitor and I have no graphical issues at all, I can finally stay using Linux.
Laptop? If yes blame wayland
@@startjim123456 is there any defference in laptop and desktop pc?
There shouldn't be, its hybrid mode meaning the drivers will use the gpu when needed for gaming or other heavy tasks
I hear with the newest feature branch driver the experience with Nvidia laptops is a lot better
@@startjim123456 No, desktop.
Makes me laugh how you lot act like linux is some holy grail and you're some kind of hero for using it. Yer windows is bloated but at least it just works. Good luck realising that your apps will corrupt or crash because they need to make it work with wayland, good luck with your flatpaks missing basic features (discord) and wondering why it has no permissions. Good luck with something breaking for no reason then spend a day in terminal hoping you dont break something trying to fix it. And good luck hoping your app dont crash because of wayland/xwayland shit that linux users will have to, yet again, wait for years to catch up xD but yer, year of linux just around the corner!
Good luck when your games dont work and you need to google the 10 launch options you need to maybe reach the main reason. But sure, Linux just works and is so good! stick it to the man
Love the Lord Of Cinder background from DS3 :) great Video m8 😃
I don't think I've tried the brand new driver yet but even my 1050 ti machine runs Wayland quite well with the proprietary driver.
Casual youtubing at 3.40am! Great video thank you :D
Yeah i dont like recording when my family is awake so i do it when they are asleep as they dont hear it :P
Installed arch two days ago with plasma Wayland and it works perfectly, no issues.
what gpu?
For the Halo loading issue, you can go into the game files and delete the startup/loading movie. I can't remember the exact directory, but that fixed the issue for me when I was having it.
That issue was solved a while ago, i can get past that part, its the loading part that freezes the game now, on amd their is no problem
forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/regression-550-54-14-halo-infinite-permanently-hangs/284441/
This might be the right issue page unsure
Ah I see. That game has historically given me more problems than any other with Nvidia so I believe it.
I was using the 555.58 driver on plasma 6.1 wayland earlier and I have to say it was the exact opposite of your experience, I had visual glitches with steam UI, plasma windows being laggy and sometimes even becoming unresponsive and firefox kept crashing. Probably to be expected on a beta driver lol but I've now switched back to 550
welp, its not a beta driver tho it came from beta as expected
What distro?
distro?
@@linuxnext Actually it's only in a "New Feature Branch", not production branch 🤓
But for real now, there's always someone that has issues with Nvidia's new driver series
@@Kris-od3sj that makes a lot more sense lol
@@Ziomal645 arch
The 555 stable driver just came out for me today. I didn't have to do all the crazy stuff to get it to work, it just came through as a system update
i thought of trying on this driver, but looked on their website, the one that contains CUDA or in debian repo's are still 555.42.02, so i think i have to wait a little more.
On Pop Os, using wayland and the drivers 555.42.02, I've had almost no issues so far.
The only exception is the Jellyfin player opening on a black screen and I can't get it to load at all (most likely a wayland issue rather than a driver issue).
Everything else, games included worked with no issues at all.
I'm going to wait for Nvidia to add those new drivers to their repo to be able to switch but I don't really expect it to change anything on my side...nothing that would affect me at least.
I have a jellyfin server and use the jellyfin player under Wayland on amd and Intel, i have no issues with the player
id wait for the 555.58 driver aswell then retry as that isnt the latest one im showing in the video
It could be that you're running an old version of gnome wayland which is 42.9 i think
Cosmic desktop is already better then gnome 42 by a long shot
What method did you use too get 555 on Pop!_OS? Their official repo only has 550?
@@ThePlayerOfGames Look for Nvidia cuda documentation.
They have official repos for their drivers for different distro, Ubuntu 22.04 is one of them which is what Pop Os is based on.
edit = it's called CUDA installation guide for Linux.
@@ThePlayerOfGames ywnbaw
no issues, but fps wise compared to windows?
I am still on 550 due to rpm fusion testing the new drivers. vrr is broken on wayland fir me with my nvidia GPU on kde 6.1 wayland. It does set the wrong refreshrate for the monitor which makes everything even worse. Also can't i render anything on another GPU and shiw it via my nvidia gpu if i have IOMMU active.
Forza also does crash after some time with my old 2060 but it doesn't crash anymire on my 4090 which is weird.
The nvidia drivers are kinda broken for me on X11, i can't use a HDMI 2.1 device on 4K120 and other monitors and on wayland do i need to hotplug that monitor.
only hope is nvidia improving their drivers or what im hoping for is nvk to continue improving their driver for games as the desktop experience on plasma is already good and vrr i think is already in the driver unsure about that tho
i have a 165hz monitor but dont have vrrr enabled (dont have the diplayport cable yet, just HDMI) you said if you dont use Freesync even with just 1 monitor , it feels like crap? Can you elaborate? do i need to go get a displayport cable ASAP and get vrrr for my single monitor? Games do kinda feel weird and input laggy even at 165 hz currently. i use nvidia wayland kde
can i just disable the wayland vsync in the mean time somehow?
@zeebpc you can use the old screen tearing api that kde plasma used to use by going to your /etc/environment
Sudo nano /etc/environment
And adding at the bottom of the config this
KWIN_DRM_NO_AMS=1
Ctrl-x, y, enter
Restart and you should get screen tearing now
The new screen tearing isnt arriving till plasma 6.2
invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/4800
Yes if your monitor only works with vrr with display port then i suggest getting one but you can enable screen tearing as i said in the other reply
Ok here is the deal with the stable 555 driver. It is much better than the 550 driver for wayland, i would even consider it usable, however and please bear in mind if have not messed with it too much but.. some issues still exist, some of the same, issues for example the external monitor is still bugged out in steam, i get some checker boarding graphical glitches, that resolve when you change tabs. It will be sorted im sure i would commit to switching to wayland but x11 still has slightly less issues
Under Arch Linux, 555.58 makes KDE 6.1.1 crash under heavy use. Not even beta did that, so IDK. And still no RTX Super Resolution and no RTX HRD...
Do you have the 2 parameters enabled in your grub or systemd
Hey, thermal-throttling can be a problem as i pointed to you on the last video. Lower fps, lower frequencies, stutter, frametime inconsistency, hang etc. Nvidia driver for wayland is completely usable but not perfect i have to admit but keep in mid that your experience is affected by your "faulty" gpu. 😄
yes i agree
Went back to X11.. the XWayland bridge often crashed (ICARUS was biggest offender but its also the games fault since its poorly optimized but doesn't crash on X11) or had peculiar visual glitch performance issues with some game even classics like Counter Strike Source.
I agree though the Driver getting better, it fixed some refresh rates issues i had with some games when i ran them under 144hz but i should re-test that part in the future.
Spec: Ryzen 9 7900X / RTX 3070 (Driver Version: 555.58.02) / 32GB. EndevourOS (aka 99.997% Arch btw )😏
Yeah xwaylandvideobridge is borked, kde hasnt been maintaining it that well, i dont use it as vesktop uses the normal xdg-desktop-portal for screen sharing and obs uses this also so no need for it anymore ngl atleast for me
First. Is that Garuda? if so, is the new driver already included?
yes its garuda, yes the drivers are available now in stable arch repos and i used garudas driver installer to install the drivers from that repo
garuda is just arch so the packages they use for drivers come from arch
archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&repo=Extra&q=nvidia&maintainer=&flagged=
CachyOS were im on, 555.58 is provided!
@@markdevaal4116 Ah a fellow CachyOS enjoyer.
@@sharkuel Cachy Gang
Better idea is to use integrated GPU for desktop rendering and just let nVidia sit and wait for game or app rendering (use it like hybrid graphics on laptops)
i really like it but can't find any fan control for my nvidia 3060. i just installed Fedora today and tinkering with this since this morning ahaha
@@jovieasyrof2017 yeah nvidia is working on bringing that to wayland, if you want that you'll need to use x11 sadly for now but just to reasure you that the nvidia devs are porting their control panel stuff to wayland, Maybe the 560 driver will have it which should be sometime next month or the month after
@@linuxnext i do hope so! really like how little resource Fedora needs to run on my PC but the GPU fan is driving me crazy haha
I'm unable to boot after installing nvidia 555.58.02 on my fedora 40 gnome
Yikes how did you go about installing it?
RTX4070 on Fedora, Far Cry 5 stopped working (even to guys on protondb) and on Wayland when i load Call to Arms Ostfront, while game is caching to VRAM, about 10GB Wayland crashes.
Wayland is overall much improvement in system, but on gamer side its worse.
something nvidia will have to improve, or wait for nvk to improve gaming performance in mesa
@@linuxnext Im pretty new in Linux world with Nvidia, how often NV rollout new drivers ?
Do they release some "hotfixes" or we have to wait half year for new rollout ?
@@mrkrenek93 so outside of nvidia drivers you have mesa which includes a multitood of drivers for different hardware this includes intel, amd and now nvidia with nvk
Mesa has a feature release which is the new fancy features that improve different drivers inside of mesa every 3 months then they have bug fixes every couple of weeks to fix bugs on the last feature release that happened that being mesa 24.1
The next feature is mesa 24.2 and they also do RC releases meaning release candidate and that goes through testing and more rc releases until they think its ready in that 3 month span
docs.mesa3d.org/release-calendar.html
Nvk just became usable on the desktop with 24.1 and supports some vulkan extensions for basic vulkan tasks and some very light gaming for now
You can test 24.2 rc versions or the git version of mesa from master meaning you will get the latest features that are in development but can cause issues as its the development builds you would be running
On arch you can grab like mesa gaming from aur and use that as that maintainer updates his gaming mesa to the latest usually like 24.2 rc right now
You will need to remove the nvidia prop drivers also so that you can use nvk and the vulkan-nouveau package for things like steam
You can also look at the issues and merge requests if you know what your looking for
gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa
@@linuxnext Thanks for explaining.
Thanks for making linux more mainstream.
Microsoft has eliminated itself from my consideration for next OS and Apple isn’t different enough with their AI data scrubbers impending.
Linux seems like the only tebable option left.
My few final hurdles: multi monitor VRR. I have a script to disable other monitor on a keybind for gaming but I'm too embarrassed to tell my mates I have to disable my other monitors to game on linux. Also Frame gen isn't supported by nvidia on linux.
Haha yeah i dont know why nvidia hasnt changed it yet, hopefully they do as both amd and intel support it, so it shouldnt be that difficult to do :>
Would screen tearing solve this issue or do you like vrr a lot
garuda linux got the 555.58 driver running it in wayland, and the issue Im having is with mangohud, only works with same games. linux native games wont work and other games just get a black screen with sound
Some games? Which games and what wine launcher or steam?
I'd really love to try these new drivers for the Nvidia cards but my Pascal 1050Ti isn't supported and I don't have any other GeForce cards as I switched to AMD.
So I'm out of luck here.
Eh its nothing special ngl, only the explicit sync stuff for wayland
The 555.58 driver let my desktop all laggy and with some glitches, the desktop experience is horrible, im using fedora btw
Are you using a laptop or computer and what gpu
I would have a look through here for tips
rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA
@@linuxnext I was using a rtx 3060 and a desktop machine, i just gone back to Windows, I guess I'll just wait for the next nvidia driver release to try make the transition. Good video, incredible channel and work, congrats mate!
@@afroexx1 thanks :] what was your game installed on by the way? Was it ntfs or ext4 or btrfs etc
My main rig has been a laptop with a i9-11980HK/RTX 3080 Mobile for almost 2 years, and I just built an All-AMD Mini ITX rig with a 7950X3D and 7900XTX. I've been team green since the 5950 Ultra (last-gen AGP) so I think I can give fair criticism to NVIDIA.
Conclusion / TLDR: I'm done-done with them... unless their drivers become the stuff of legend, or something. The things you mention is just scratching the surface of the problems with NVIDIA nowadays.
Rationale:
I've had two laptops now where the kernel had no support for CPU or GPU fan control. NONE. The fans would stay at 0 RPM, and this was not obvious. On my most recent laptop I have to use a 3rd party fan control suite (MSI) and manually adjust turbo/etc for the game. Prior to figuring this out, only a handful of games would work, and all of them had thermal throttling issues / stutter, horrific frame timing, just a bad gaming experience. I didn't know how bad it was until I started getting AMD handhelds- GPD Win Max, GPD Win Mini. Those have low power AMD chips and yet ran many games faster at the same resolution than a 3080. And even at lower framerates, it "feels" smoother be it Wayland or X11. Still do with fans maxed.
NVIDIA Optimus laptops have serious, serious issues. Switching graphics is not obvious or easy and you will be fighting half the time trying to figure out if the problem is that your game is running on the Intel iGPU.
I built an all-AMD rig for the first time a few months ago... its night and day difference. 32:9 240hz displays, HDR, 4k resolutions.... everything, and I mean everything, just works, and its smoother than butter. Games I "sucked" at, I can actually play a bit. Now I know that the jerkiness isn't normal, its a failure of the hardware/software and I won't put up with it for a second longer.
The laptop scene with nvidia can be rlly bad as iv heard, on desktop is alright most things work fine but i agree i also moved to amd and its a night and day difference
Im hoping NVK improves quickly as this is very similar to RADV in mesa and already works extremely well on the desktop side of things, excited for mesa 24.2 as this will improve nvk even more so that nvidia can be good on Linux like it is on amd so people dont have to be forced to buy an amd card
i was getting xwayland crashes with 555 on all games, gave up and bought a a770, now i cant even game cuz the intel vulkan implementation is trash 😎😎
💀💀💀
Good to see nvedia getting better would you recommend pop os i tried Ubuntu i wasn't a fan of it for gaming
Yeah the only bad thing is the store and desktop they use right now is rather old so it has issues
Id recommend bazzite until pop os updates to Ubuntu 24.04 and their new cosmic desktop
bazzite.gg/
Grab the nvidia iso and you should be good to go
@@linuxnext thanks I will check it out
I had that bug a while ago on nvidia with halo infinite, only solution was to run it in windowed mode set in the config file
Ah i see
Ngl i wish nvidia had better support for wayland
@@Totallynotmwa its improving, nvk is improving also and will take over as the main driver at some point
@@linuxnext oh alr
@Totallynotmwa there are still problems for sure not denying that lol
I hope for nvk to improve and the nova kernel driver to be upstreamed in the linux kernel so nvidia users can get a better experience with wayland
Will see what the 560 driver has in store for nvidia users tho
@@linuxnext agree
@@linuxnext I hope 560 is better tbh
uninstalled nobara days ago
very disappointing os and gaming experience
nobara runs very slow and steam games wont launch even proton is installed
the button just keep switching color between blue and green
tried alot ways to fix that but finally i gave up and reinstalled win11
What filesystem were your games installed on?
As I have ran nobara for over a year playing games daily on it on both nvidia and amd without problems with proton.
It is based on fedora and I've used that for 2 years on 2 different CPU architectures without any issues
please if you don't know the basics of Linux or atleast know that it is not the same as windows don't comment about said distro
@@linuxnext 1 ssd full ext4 with swap,nvidia and intel,
only native and small games survived,
tried different fixes from communities and discord
,protons,lutris,rollback driver
none work
Hey there, After I update the Nvidia game Driver, I feel Shutter and LAG on GTA V and it gives low fps 50-60 FPS on the other hand, before update it gives 100-110 FPS on my Nvidia RTX 2050... How it will fix ??
What distro?
@@linuxnext On windows 11 Sir...
@@SumitKumar-ed5sx wait 😂 your reporting a issue with the Nvidia driver on windows to me?
I would do a reinstall of the driver or use the ddu driver manager to uninstall then do a reinstall
If that doesn't work try out bazzite sometime :)
bazzite.gg/
www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/
@@linuxnext Ohkk !! Thank you Sir 😁 ...
When you switch distros. Can you record the process please?
might be a bit difficult as i dont have a second pc right now to record it but sometime in the future yeah :P
The latest version of OBS is broken, unfortunately
@@theplaymakerno1 in what way? Encoding? Browser docks? Screen capturing?
@@linuxnext Encoding. There are massing frame drops, and the 'Stop Recording' features doesn't actual stop recording. I have to press 'Stop Recording' twice to make it stop. However, the video recording are unusable.
The Flatpak version is the problem. The one in the AUR seems to work fine.
@@theplaymakerno1 i had the exact same problem and was wondering why it was doing that while gpu screen recorder and steams new recorder were working great
Wonder what causes it with flatpak, maybe the depends havent been updated for 555?
@@linuxnext The Flatpak was released after 555 driver. OBS breaks like this sometimes. I am happy that we have different versions that we can use. However, I am not sure why it isn't working right now.
@@linuxnext It is definitely related to drivers. Even the Software mode doesn't work.
can you send the link of the wallpaper
wallhaven.cc/w/2ylv8x
Didn't see the video yet but yeah it works on my machine. I just miss global hotkeys
me too, wayland devs will agree on something soon enough so we can have it
Hey, I want to switch to Linux. What distro should I use at the beginning? VRR is important to me, and HDR
well honestly hdr isnt ready for the regular user, if you want to use hdr you need to use some launch commands and use gamescope to get hdr in games for now
if you have nvidia and your using one monitor then vrr can work out of the gate with a new version of kde plasma desktop so a distro like bazzite, arch based distros, fedora kde plasma spin, kde neon will all work for you
if your brand new to linux i would give bazzite a try
bazzite.gg/
if your using amd or intel gpus you can use vrr with multi monitors on a new version of kde plasma once again like plasma 6.1.1 currently
@@linuxnext Thank you so much brother. I will try it;)
how did it go? did you experience any problems?
@@linuxnext As for running games, everything works without problems; I did not have to configure anything. However, I don't know how to set the GPU fans speed (there is an option in Nvidia settings, but it doesn't work). VRR also works without problems, and the lack of HDR atm doesn't bother me. I have noticed that the GPU usage is much lower than on Windows too. Can't wait for steam gaming mode with nvidia cards tho. That would be awesome.
@@pauIaaaa yeah thats something nvidia will add, they created some new code for nvidia fan control under wayland in their nvidia-settings control panel but its not ready yet, maybe their next release they will bring support for it under wayland
For now if you want to change it you can change it under x11 by logging out, changing the desktop environment to the x11 variant, then changing it, then going back into wayland and hopefully it stays the same fan speed as you set it up as on x11
When is this going to be released in Ubuntu/Mint?
Hmm well it shouldnt be long as this driver is considered a feature branch driver but not production ready driver
What games are you having issues with or something else?
Bro let me tell you right now, you need to do an OBS tutorial for Linux users with AMD GPUs for both Recording and Streaming settings. There is NOBODY out on RUclips right now with a simple, up to date and easy to understand tutorial that explains how to do it right. So many bad tutorials and even worse videos with outdated information. I know that you're capable of doing this.
Haha yeah i have it on my list of videos to do lol
I installed OBS through flatpak and it worked for me. I can stream using my RX 5700 and I can play games just fine.
It uses VAAPI too.
@@MegaManNeo yep, there isnt much else rlly, i guess explaining some things might be useful like pipewire, vaapi etc and getting the browser docks working under wayland on kde plasma and gnome
Hey!
Do you use RTX video super resolution and RTX HDR?
is there a way to enable and use those features in Linux?
thanks.
That stuff isnt supported on nvidias linux drivers
I dont use nvidia right now on linux either, this video was just to show that these new drivers solve big problems on linux
Nvidia may start working on that idk
resolution: get amd
Ha nope still broken just like fucking wayland black screen or just everything flickering or aritfecting like crazy cant even play factorio....... (wayland suck on laptops)
What distro and what driver
@@linuxnext arch.... fun thing installing the normal 550 drivers (non beta) and i get a screen again but if i use wayland it the the PC is gone boot with a black screen 70% of the time and it stay like that need to keep restarting the SDDM or keep rebooting until i get a screen and if i try to play factotio or any other game its just flickering/aritfacting its so bad and i dont think its nvidia's fault im pretty sure its wayland and them having not a single good working system for switch able grapihcs.... i think the beta driver was 555.4 somthing or .3 (SO IM STAYING ON XORG where shit fucking works i bet its not a problem on desktop PC's but laptops and there switchable grapichs have all ways bin a problem on wayland)
@startjim123456 have you enabled drm modeset in your grub or systemd bootloader? Idk i have seen lots of people running wayland on nvidia with this driver without problems
Here is one redditor who had the same issue and how this person fixed it
I resolved by booting into X11 session first to add nvidia_drm.modeset=1 under grub command line in /etc/default/grub. Mine looks like this:
Sudo nano /etc/default/grub
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 quiet nvidia_drm.modeset=1 nvidia_drm.fbdev=1 nvidia.NVreg_PreserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1"
Ctrl-x,y, enter
Then update the configuration with konsole:
sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
And now you shouldn't have a black screen in Wayland session.
Make sure you have nvidia-hook installed also
@@linuxnext aa yes modeset the thing that fix's nothing....... yes i added it to systemd even without it does nothing and im gone say it again im 99% sure its a wayland problem with switch able grapichs on laptops....... if use wayland with all the fix's nothing change's and do it without the fixes and nothing changed! use XORG and everything just works
@@linuxnext i can give it an other try maybe it works now....
linux gaming the ultimate meme LOL
I Need Debian to Properly use AMD Legacy drivers and Not give me a Black Screen.
I cant afford Nice new Video Cards, I had Kiddos like a Dummy LOL
legacy drivers? you would use mesa no? or do you want to use amds drivers like amdgpu-pro or vlk?
and what gpu do you have that is so old?
The kids will give you more happiness than that damn computer. The computer will give you an escape when the kids aren't making you so happy.
Sounds like you need Mesa Amber: it's an older version of Mesa which supports older hardware; although if that's the case your card must be _really_ ancient. Either way, you might want to look into it (or we could figure it out for you if you'd like to tell us your GPU model).
Arch provides `mesa-amber` right in the repo, idk how you'd go about installing such drivers on Debian though.
@@Kris-od3sj I have 2 Radeon R5 340X C870's & 1 Radeon RX550
I typically get a Black screen or a Black Screen w/ a Blinking Cursor, either after a Graphical Install went Well, or after I attempt to install the drivers
I dont think i can find mesa amber on debian, maybe its called something else? Or is it arch exclusive?
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