Has Gibson quality improved? | The new Gibson Les Paul 50s Standard
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- For 2019 Gibson, under new leadership with CEO James Curleigh, introduced a new line of electric guitars, dividing the lineup into the vintage inspired Original Collection and the contemporary designed Modern Collection. With these changes was birthed a new Gibson Les Paul Standard, available as either a 50s or 60s model in a variety of finishes. The coveted Les Paul Goldtop is now available as a 50s Standard model, restoring the historic gold color to the "standard" nameplate. What Gibson has effectively done is answer the cries of Les Paul fans who have been clamoring for the Les Paul Standard to represent the historic flagship guitar that made it famous. The 50's Les Paul Standard features a traditional mahogany body with maple cap and zero weight relief. The rounded 50's style mahogany neck is topped with a rosewood fingerboard and trapezoid inlays. All of the classic hardware is present with an ABR-1 bridge, deluxe tuners and keystone tuning buttons. The burstbucker PAF style pickups and wired to audio taper pots and orange cap capacitors. The is no longer a PCB board with direct soldered pots. Les Paul fans rejoice! The big questions on everyone's mind with the new line is whether or not quality had improved. The internet has been a buzz for years with horror stories of guitars that never should have left the factory. Gibson assured everyone that under the new leadership regime quality would be a priority. With that in mind, we get candid about what we have seen in the past and what we see on this new guitar. Check it out!
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Got mine Goldtop 50s with humbuckers few days ago and just started exploring this magnificient guitar. I wondered between Classic and 50s, between tobacco sunburst and GT. I am so glad I decided for 50s, that vintage feel, tones and body resonance is unbeliveable!
Gibson is back in a big way. I bought a Heritage Cherry 50’s Standard and it’s KILLER. I can’t find anything to complain about in terms of quality and NO the pick guard nut is not digging into the top. I did remove the factory strings, oil the board and lower the action a tiny bit. This is normal for any guitar you buy...personal preference. I’ve played for 40 years and owned tons of guitars. I’ve been a pro guitar repair guy as well. This is the best regular production guitar Gibson has made in forever. I love the the fact that when you change setting with the volume/tone controls they actually respond now. Going from 10 down to 8 actually affects the tone...awesome! No buzzes or dead spots or sharp fret ends are anywhere to be found. If Gibson stays on this road they will win over many new buyers.
I am glad they are listening to customers and going back to the basics. Great quality guitars and prices that are reasonable.
That sounds good to me, they really need to be better.
I bought the exact guitar, and agree 100%. It is flawless, and plays like a dream, along with zero tuning issues. I just wanted a simple no frills well made guitar and this is it! Im glad I put it off because of the weight relief, and other things that turned me off over the last few years. They listened!
I’m the guy who got the pick guard nut injury. In addition, the bridge pickup was dead. Not sure if it was wiring or the pickup itself. Anyways, they exchanged it for a near identical cherry burst in a slight flame top. It is exactly as people are saying. Absolutely no regrets whatsoever, it is art.
This is great news but after fucking up for so long it's hard to forgive them right away. Keep it up Gibson and you will win me back!
I have had a Les copy for 35 years. A real Les is my dream guitar, but I’m bewildered by the selection available. Thanks for another great video Chris
Just get a Standard '60s. It's the quintessential Les Paul.
Glad they have started to sort things out. I was really impressed by a few of them that I played in the States at the start of the year. Great video as always!
I've got a 2018 Les Paul Classic Goldtop, and I absolutely love it! I've had to adjust a couple of things on it, but nothing more than just maintenance stuff. They're extremely well-made guitars.
I TOO BOUGHT THIS GUITAR IN HERITAGE CHERRY LOVE IT AND I AM A DIEHARD FENDER PLAYER 👍🔥🎸🦅
So so happy & relieved they make a decent model like this. Not just decent but beautifully finished & sounds /looks set up perfectly !! I’ll be getting one for myself now that my faith in Gibson is restored !!
Glad to hear that! We have a few in stock btw!
I played three in a guitar center: two 50s (one with burstbuckers, the other with p90s) and a 60s. I saw glue and toolmarks on the rosewood, pickups mounted crooked, and shavings on the neck binding still on the neck.
yeah i've had two shipped new each with issues.
@@tedjoseph616 Where did you order them from? Strangely, one showed up in the store that I'm buying an amp from. It's 30 years old so I'm going to go with that.
@@Rhythmicons guitar center from NH (new unopened box). Returned that at a local G.C. and then had one shipped (not sure from where). Returned, new one is coming from VA
@@tedjoseph616 2019? Jeez. What were the issues? I talked to a sweetwater tech about the issues listed above and he said SOME of that is to be expected (glue on the rosewood) but the crooked pickups (easily fixable) and other issues get rejected by sweetwater.
@@Rhythmicons fretboard binding harsh tool marks. (also on rosewood). Scratches on side of body. The main one that bothers me is this sort of "dimple" (concave dent like) in the maple top. Only noticeable in certain POV/lighting but when its there its very annoying. Two of them had it, i would have kept them if they didn't have the dimples. If i moved the guitar around with a light source above, i would get the light source reflection to hit the dimple and the light source when it a crazy distorted fashion. So i ran my finger along it and noticed it was indented.
Just got the 50s Standard yesterday. I'm pretty impressed with the workmanship. It was even in tune when it arrived 😂
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Thanks cuz
I have a 50’s standard in tobacco burst and it’s almost perfect. Two tiny orbitals in the wood, and the fretboard was not perfectly smooth from scraping. Not a big deal at all. Oddly enough my Jackson custom shop had flaws all over it and I sent it back. This new les Paul is my main guitar
Ordered a BRAND NEW.... 2019 Gibson LP 60's that was "supposed" to be PLEK'd (even customer service at Gibson rep confirmed) BUT? The G string was HIGHER than the other strings on the nut. (Like .017...YES! The nut was simply cut too high!). Had a terrible time getting the "right" chord tones. Exchanged it for the 2019 Gibson LP 50's style (Heritage Cherry Burst) and DOUBLED CHECKED "factory settings" AT THE LOCAL MUSIC establishment before heading home with it. I am MUCH HAPPIER, now. Just an FYI to personally inspect these models for proper string sets at the nut. LOVE my Gibson and I believe that Gibson is "trying" to improve their QA...but this was just unsatisfactory.
I’m in! Always wanted a Gibson LP and I ain’t seen a bad review nowhere!
That Bassbreaker though 👀
Chase Rogers Bassbreaker out Marshall’s Marshall now. They are incredible
Looks and sounds great. Ima check them out. Thanks.
looking forward to p90 50,s standard review
I'm so sad with the stories about issues in this new models. I got mine with a week and a half and it's perfect. No issues, dings.... the work painting is perfect (goldtop), the binding, the nut, frets....everything as it's suposse to be. Very very happy with mine. Ah, by the way...it's my first Gibson!,
Just bought the gold top one! Expensive. But it’s so awesome!!! I love it.
I got a HP SG 2019 stunning quality.
I am not normally a lp guy, but i really like how this looks. I hope it is not super heavy either. Love Gold. :)
Mine needed a setup of course and a little nut cutting. But I’ve been very pleased with the quality. 2019 Standard 60s LP
Do you still like it? I came home with a 60's today and now I'm wondering if I should have picked the 50's.
Yes it’s my favorite guitar. I plan to keep this one forever! I do like the 50’s but the 60’s has better pickups in my opinion.
I've gotta say one thing. All new Gibson's that I've played sound great, feel great, but they all suffered the same issue: the finish checks soo easily. Two black SG started showing finish checking at the headstock a couple months after receiving them and my Goldtop also start showing finish checking lines near the bridge pots after a year or so. Doesn't botter me much, but it's something to take into consideration. Anyone else has this?
Great playing and clean tones.
Great playing!!! thanks for the great review and the amazing videos you post I had the chance to try one of these LP50’s with the MHS pickups... wow really amazing!
Anyone try it that way? Any thoughts..!?
I order a new 50’s standard stayed in tune for a bit then wouldn’t at all - boom needed new but. First Gibson I’ve had to replace the nut on and through the years probably owned 6 or 7 different les Paul’s and SG’s
As someone else here said premier guitar recently toured The New factory and people weren't even wearing gloves or masks while painting which is very dangerous. I've heard various things over the internet about their quality not being improved however wether the quality has improved or not they need to work on their customer relations first and foremost.
The amount of apologism on the internet for Gibson guitar quality should signal a red flag for serious guitar buyers. I just don't see this amount of content for other brands. The fact that Gibson allows so many pricey guitars to leave the factory with various flaws and blemishes is unnacceptable. I have a 2020 SG. It plays and sounds great, I really do love it. But it arrived with a slightly crookedly placed D string tuner(which I adjusted myself), and the usual fit and finish issues you see all over the internet: most notably where the binding and the neck meet. You can see and feel the separation on the Low E side. the High E side does have that rounded edge feel it's supposed to have. I was pleased to see they didn't allow any glue to seep onto the fretboard from the nut, but there is some glue that seeped onto the headstock. Some of the finish has already begun to crack away from the nut. Again, I love how the guitar plays and sounds, but I just feel let down. And I'm not going through the whole drawn-out proccess of sending it back. Overall, I really like the guitar. But I will not be buying another Gibson until they seriously sort out their QC issues.
Gibson quality overall is not terrible but I’ve never seen a perfect one and in 2023 I would say epiphone quality is now getting closer to Gibson.
Im pretty dang happy with my 2019 LP Studio. Wait. It's a 2019 Les Paul Studio Deluxe limited edition! Silver burst as well. It's yummy.
Maybe I’ve had an anomaly but my Les Paul 50s Standard in Hertiage Cherry has terrible quality control on the neck. Theres a huge crack in the fretboard that proceed into the binding. Safe to say its going back to the retailer if not Gibson.
always wanted a p90 goldtop
I purchased a gold top this year as well, mine came with rotor marks on the neck binding and a finish crack straight down the neck. Was so unhappy with it I probably will never buy a new Gibson again.
Nice playing. I bought the exact same guitar and have sent two back for finish issues. Hopefully third time is a charm. Not in stock anywhere remotely close. Trying to keep my patience. This is my first gibson.
Look at used collings city limits guitars and if you don't like their more boutiquey pickups, put in a set of gibson pickups. Some of the standard CLs go for $3k used or just less from time to time, and the deluxes can be had if you wait for $3k-$3500 used. It sounds like a stretch to buy one, but I have had 9 or 10 gibsons, and six used collings guitars. Not a single one of the gibsons was anywhere close (new or used) to all of the used collings guitars. Not any single gibson was close to any of the collings. It's uncanny. Gibson is toast. The white collar retirees and near retirees are going disappear from the market and the company will fold. Between then and now, I still have four to dump - in the last 6 months or so, the used price of gibson guitars appears to have dropped about 20% (meaning my guitars dropped in value. Lovely), and I have bought and sold used collings guitars (not making money, albeit, but not losing much, either) playing around with them and all have sold for what I paid for them, costing me only listing fees on reverb.
OK...just counted. I've had 12 gibsons. Two of them were standout, one was completely defective (Gibson left me hanging on that, it was in my youth, but still counts against them. Cost me as a college kid about the equivalent of $1K in value loss), most of the rest have had stability issues or other quality problems with a couple other than the two standouts being good guitars.
All of the collings guitars have been perfect. From 5 to 13 years old.
At last, they're coming with darker rosewood boards. Plus GOOD NEWS: the new CITES traety aloows rosewood export again :) ENJOY ! ! !
I'm in Canada I bought a new 2019 Traditional in March for 3100$ just prior to the release of the new lineup. The new 50's I tested is the same as the Traditional I got. The price in Canada is 3299$ for the 50's and the price of the Traditional 2019 is now 2999$. How did the price go down when it's 300$ more? Just get the Traditional. It's the same specs and and all. They just put the serial number in the headstock for extra 300$
I too live in Ontario Canada and have said the same thing. It is funny as hell poeple are fooled by something so simple. Remember when the 2017 les Paul standard with a AAA flame top and a compounded radius neck was 3100? My 2017 HP Standard has a 4a flame top in Blueberry burst with the all access heel, and now the new Hp say it's a flame top but you can't see it because is only comes completely painted over. It could be the cheapest piece of whatever with filler in it and we wouldn't know the difference, along with a crappy new neck joint for the same price, But hey they put an ebony fingerboard on it so that make it all worth while.
Very cool guys..
Good job fellas.
Thank you so much for your video, I decided to buy a Gibson But I can’t take a decision between a 50 or 60 . What do you think about? Mauro From ROME
Nice looking guitar for sure, but needs P90's :)I'll be the first.....is the underside pickguard bracket nut rubbing against the body top paint?
Mine has left a mark but if you don't intend removing the pickguard it really doesn't matter. There are two screw holes anyway.
Nearly 12 months ago I tried out a Gibson 57 Reissue Gold Top with aged hardware..... It was premium priced, it had all the documents and really looked special BUT it was so well made to the original specs, it felt just like a Gibson Les Paul Standard....which as how the original 1957 Les Pauls felt....I had a a hard time justifying he Custom Shop price and eventually said No. Yes, well made, great player, BUT, it felt no better than a Les Paul from any era that played well and passed through the QC procedure in good shape.... So pleased that Gibson is now putting out a 50s Standard, that's more like what most players would aspire to for a period type guitar.
As someone who has owned both, I can say the difference between a USA and Custom shop model is pretty substantial if you're measuring quality and not quantity. Both will do the same job pretty much equally well, but there is something about the extra attention, skilled craftsmanship, and artistic detail that you can literally feel with the CS model. To a lot of folks that's not really important or worth it, but to a lot of other folks it is :)
I don't know why Gibson can't make a production line of faithful '58/'59/'60 reissues priced closer towards the working class musicians. With Fender, if you can't afford a Custom Shop reissue ('57, '62 etc.') you have lower priced but just as great options with the MIA American Vintage/Original or even the MIM Classic series with almost if not, all of the exact specifications. Gibson just churns out a quasi '50s or '60s type Les Paul but it's still nowhere near the real thing, they shouldn't be priced as high as driving vehicles.
Just left a guitar shop with the new les paul...lots of flaws...very disappointed...one was "good" (just dry fretboard and the nut probably cut with an axe^^) but the others...binding, frets etc etc...I am still looking for a good les paul...
The prices are the same...
Played a 2019 Studio with the same specs as the one I have....mind you mine was bought used with Duncans in it.
New One It played like butter and sounded great. Only defect was too much grinding on the unpolished fretboard on the 14th/13th frets.
I just got a les paul h 140 heritage 1996 for 1200. Made in Kalamazoo. I feel they are just as good as a good gibson and rarely ever put out a dud. Yeah it's used and a lil dinged up in some spots but not on the neck where it matters and I love a old beast that has proven its ability over the decades. They make newer models still but this one is special to me : )
So your chances of getting a good les paul from the heritage are higher. Sadly they don't make SGs, acoustics, fire birds, flying vs, explorers etc but what they do make pretty much rivals or tops the Gibson counter part.
Stiffler Rocks!!!!
nice video and guitar
They are still using the naff square back Kluson style tuners - why not use the Historic style tuners you get on the more expensive models? - plus whoever is placing the decals needs to get his mince-pies checked out because if the Les Paul Model decal was any lower it would be under the truss rod cover. Unfortunately it’s the same with all the models in this price range - if you you want the correct headstock shape, tuners and decal placement it’s gonna cost you mother £2,000 u fortunately
Plus the headstock shape.. is too large and lumpy and the dish of the maple cap is too flat!! So why the hell do they call these 50’s??????? Original my butt!! The 50’s custom shop models are very sexy... these are good a bit like it’s less attractive lumpy sister!!
I bought a brand-new 50's Les Paul in Tobacco Burst. The nut was terribly executed. I had to change it out, and I did so with an unbleached bone nut. I also had to change the bridge out for a Nashville one so I could get the low E to intonate correctly. From the factory, it was ever so sharp and the saddle was already flipped and maxed out in its adjustment. The Nashville solved that problem. Other than those two items the guitar is as perfect as I could ever expect it to be. While I was at it I changed all the hardware out for nickel-plated versions so they would get that aged patina after a while. Now I love my Les Paul!
Super happy with mine but I'm seeing more horror stories than I am happy stories....for the price they should have put Custom Buckers in the 50's Standard My only complaint is the Burst Buckers
Never mind the guitars, I'm jealous of Cooper's hair!
Lol the only thing back for gibson is my les paul standard 50 tobacco burst. Arrived today and bent binding. Short binding and split maple cap near the cut filled in with filler. How this got past at least 10 operatives at the factory I will never know. Not happy.
And Gibson's reply was lol thanks for all your help gibson
That’s really unfortunate to hear.
It’s always good to have pictures, because then we can send them to the appropriate division so that they can do something about it.
Maybe the dealer can help you out further, as the guitar needs to be returned to the dealer in the first place.
I don't think it got by anybody. More than likely it was thrown in the failheap and someone from management saw it and told them to make fudge and pass it along. The unfortunate thing is someone (not necessarily Gibson) is fudging the customer by not identifying them as such. This leaves the customer base to do the bin sorting so to speak. I think the dealers know which ones aren't quite up to snuff but that they choose to just toss em in with the rest in the hopes of making an extra buck off a b stock guitar. If they weren't getting a substantial discount on them the dealers would be sending them back instead of selling them. I think it's just a "buyer beware" situation where everyone up the chain is being as shady as they can get away with, not necessarily dishonest but not so honest either :)
Curleigh the greasy jeans model isn't going to do anything about quality. There was a video recently with a $5400 custom les paul with the bridge way off center. Why would they even let that out let alone have it featured in a video? I don't mean it was a little off, either. WAY off leaving little room for strings on the high e side before they go over the side onto the frets.
Their prices have gone in the right direction. But, I've noticed that on ebay that the actual sales have gone way down, too. In average actual sold price, that is. It's possible to get a recent standard for $1500-$1800 from BIN offer listings (some of those guitars sold for $3300+).
I"ve had 9 gibson guitars in my lifetime, and started building last year. I ran into collings a couple of years ago, a used CL deluxe. The same price as a gibson standard was at the time. The collings guitar is made at a level that I cannot make a guitar. Gibson's guitar quality level is easily attainable for a hobby builder with some hand tool woodworking experience (albeit at least intermediate, not a beginner).
Is there any wannabe builder out there that isn't bashing Gibson?
I played a 2019 50s Goldtop at Guitar Center. Not bad, but my new Epiphone Jared LP plays way better. Killer neck, resonant af, and near perfect setup w low action. 1/3 the price.
Made in a sweatshop with horrible electronics and an ugly ass head stock.
@Short For A Stormtrooper Big For Your Mom generally I agree, but some play surprisingly well and are super affordable, which is my point I suppose.
@Chris, where did you get that fantastic shirt from?
I have several guitars under 500 Euros and my Gibson acoustic is the only one with issues in craftsmanship. I have a Peerless Songbird and it is perfect. There is no excuse for Gibson to be “almost“ there.
5:17 is not a defect ... learn your Lesters bub
There’s a bunch of filler between the binding. I don’t think he’s talking about the cap.
You're the coolest guy ever. Please teach us all about these terrible, terrible guitars.
there's a bit of filler or paint on the binding, i doubt they are talking about the maple cap showing.
Dude on the right has a swag about him....great review dawg
He's a swag machine haha
‘... prices went down’ - shame they quickly went back up again.
Only thing I would ask for is to not install the pickguard, leave it to the player, personally I don't want a tiny whole in my $2.5k guitar. PLEASE!!
Bought two new Gibson basses recently; excellent quality! A complete change from one I bought over a year ago.
What happened to less expensive? The price hasn't changed. Your saleing these guitars so ofcourse your not gonna have anything negative to say about them as that just hurts your sales. Don't get me wrong I love the Gibson sound but I've herd others say theres a dull spot in the neck pickup. I've seen a few demos as well where I could actually hear it myself. Couldn't really tell from this demonstration though as it did sound nice in the hands of the guy playing here. I think if one wants a completely unbiased opinion on Gison Les Paul's, do alot of research before you buy because just because this particular guitar came set up nicely dosent mean the next one will. Alot of guys are right on the verge of springing for one of these and alls it takes is a video like this to send you over the edge & whatever you get your stuck with and you'll eventually learn for yourself all the things about your guitar no one told you to begin with. You should know just because a guitar is the same model dosent meant they are all precisely the same. If you know what to look for by educating yourself, chances are you'll be alot happier with your dream guitar down the road!!!
The guitar you guys are demo-ing is a good sounding guitar.
This stay in tune? What did they change?
I've never had a problem with my les paul staying in tune. "Lock" the string properly as your putting the strings on, stretch them good and get a luthier to give it a good setup. Your good to go after that 🤙
Chad Baker ive talked to some people that plays their les paul and they all have same problem after abrupt bending and even from just travels, you sir could be one of the lucky ones. Kudos
Is the tenon joint a long tenon or short???
Mark Wright these are short tenon
Mark Wright trogly’s guitar channel has some videos where he takes these new ones apart
The 50’s Standards are awesome. It’s not as good as my PRS McCarty 594 but it’s damn good.
Cooper is an amazing player 👍
also is quite a bit less than a 594. I had a 2020 594 and they are sweet guitars
@@MrHamburgerler For sure - I think the new LP Standards are an amazing value.
High gain on the bridge pickup is just the gawd awfullest sound! Get on the neck pickup, roll off the tone, and play your 7th chords and inversions. Jazzy bliss!
They forgot to put the push pull pots in :(
Now give us the 50s carved top and Brazilian Rosewood ... correct shape humbucker covers... Honduras Mahogany
rolando e. limon we need this to happen
how about Russian birch?
No, they haven't fixed a thing. I got one of these a few days ago that I had to order from out of state, and of course there are problems. Either the pick up rings are bad or they drilled the holes wrong to where they pull the ring out of shape...on the neck pickup, there's a gap so big I can see the BODY CAVITY through it and a nickel size finish flaw (looks like a bubble) where the strap button is. DO NOT BUY A GIBSON THAT YOU HAVEN'T PHYSICALLY CHECKED FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. I'm trying to return mine. Which will be a nightmare. Buy an Epihone for 1/5 of the price and drop good pickups in it instead. Gibson must QC guitars in the dark.
I ordered mine without physically seeing it, its flawless. So......
Why bother with the modern ones? Just get rid of them.
This dude always reminds me of Chief Wiggum
Everything is great on these except pickups are very underwhelming - sorta disappointed with the tone … my 50’s std tone is acceptable but could have been so much better. You can even hear it in this video - they sound harsh and cheap. My burst buckets in my 07’ R8 are so much better that it isn’t even close. With gain they might be fine but clean they are noticeably dull - I modded it to 50’s wiring which helped with clarity but still not a warm rounded/clear tone.
It's a mass production music instrument, not a jewel. I have a 2015 Standard (yes ,2015), it's the best tone and craftsmanship guitar I owned.
You know what ?
That is the best statement that anyone has made about Gibson. Mass production/ Not a Jewel.
I think they should drop the prices though, a les Paul for around 1000, not 2500. Even if the profits are minimal for a year or two but to get the product out to many players and help regain the reputation.
Wow, guys. That was hardly a "serious look". Virtually no spec details or close-ups of the fit, finish or setup. The player demo did not cite the pickup configurations, tone settings, effects chain, or amp used. Sounds more like you regurgitated the talking points that JC spewed to you during the NAMM Show. Can't take you seriously.
I think quality consistency might improve a little, but I'm betting the overall quality (what you're actually getting for your money) is going to go down. We can already see a dumbing down of the model lines and more of a metrics driven process approach at work. There will be less flaws only because there is less to fuck up. Instead of a guitar that's built by highly skilled human labor with the associated variances (flaws?) we'll get guitars made by robot like semi-skilled labor that are perfectly consistent but with little to no individual character. I really think that history will mark 2018 as the end of Gibson's finest era. They'll still make good guitars, but they won't be what they used to in true qualitative terms like artisanship, unique character, and the feeling you get when you find one that "fits" your own character :)
lol
This is nonsense.
Any Leftys on 2019LesPaul 50s ??
At 8.50 did anyone catch how out of tune that G chord was ? I bet it slipped out of tune .
Brian Foster I have a brand new 2019 Les Paul and so far no tuning problems
@@tuco8734 well that's good . I love Gibson guitars. Maybe new strings? You heard it tho right ?
Brian Foster yes, I heard it out of tune , I tried 6 different Les pauls before I settled on one I bought . Mine sounded the best and stayed in tune . Think it may have something to do with the nut
Right on. I have a sg
well ... if your previous line was shit , yeh , you've improved
what an achievement !
Never owned a Gibson. Dont think I will. Im a Bc. Rich guy. I am looking forwards to their 2019 line up, and they look great. Lets hope they are quality instruments.
Skiffles I had a US custom BC Rich Warlock. The tuners were so bad that the slipped out of tune after ONE chord. Locked the nut and lo and behold, Same w the Floyd fine tuners. Unplayable in other words. Whats your experiences?
JUST ORDERED A 50s STANDARD IN BOURBON BURST. SOLD OFF A FEW JACKSONS. I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
YOU GET OLDER, YOUR STYLE...AND WHAT YOU LISTEN TO CHANGES...
H#LL... I'VE PLAYED FLOYD ROSES FOR MOST OF MY MUSIC LIFE!!! 🙂
Nice guitar you get what you pay for
Lies, I bought a special tribute 2020, it had HAIR IN THE FINISH. So dissapointed.
So yes the newer ones that are being built that are custom built by gibson ,are much better than the 50s,and 60s .
Just because something is old or "vintage " Does not mean its great . People have been brainwashed into thinking the older ones are so special that they are worth hundreds of thousands, . But when playing in the late fifties, no one wanted a les paul because many were not well made and they were heavy,and good luck finding one that would stay in tune., if you could ever get it in tune at all
Thats why people bought the telecaster, and Stratocaster. .
Its not about the finish , its about how will it sound ,play ,stay in tune and hold up on stage
50s are used to be ‘traditional’ and 60s are used to be ‘standard’. Gibson get more margin and consumer get more satisfaction as Gibson did not take stupid change & unnecessary action that nobody wants.
Reading all these comments I wonder: Do you always buy Guitars online??? Just dont do it. Buy them after you tried them in a shop. The shop should guarantee you, that the guitars are fine, and if you find something at home, bring it back and they will take care of it. Thats how it should be done. If your shop doesnt do it, dont buy it there.
Not feasible anymore. If where you live has no guitar shops do you just not play guitar. No, everywhere has pretty robust returns policies so its not an issue. For some its the only way to get a high end guitar
I don’t think QA has ever changed. I think it’s more now more people are buying guitars unseen and unplayed online. QA is hit or miss on all brands. Hence why from the 50’s till today you always hear the most famous guitarist talking about how they played 10 or so I’m the same model until they found their one. Let’s be honest and put things in perspective
Life is too short to wear an Apple Watch.
Still wont stay in tune and that headstock angle has to go. And please put graphite saddles and a tusq nut on there if you wont change the headstock angle.i have a Gibson studio but I will now buy agile guitars.they sound really good and come stock with tusq nut and saddles.gibson is wayyyyyy overrated.
Agreed. I'm more of a fender parts caster guy myself.
Rundown of my guitars...
Fiesta red alder body 2001 american standard strat with custom shop tx special pick ups and locking tuners with a 99 rose wood neck
Limited edition 2019 american pro strat body with 69 custom shop pick ups in translucent safire blue on a ash body with a 95 rose wood neck with locking tuners.
99 american strat sunburst stock pick ups with warmoth stainless steel frets and locking tuners.
50s original aztec gold ash body guitar strat with 59 reissue pick ups. Put a maple neck on it with 22 frets that's a 2001 american standard neck with lockers.
Always wanted a gibson just because I love me some Led Zep. Always wanted a gold top since bob marley played one. Heard about all of the over pricing, heavyness, and piss poor quality control that gibson is known for ever since the 80s. To get a gibson from before the 80s can easily cost you 6000 or more. FUCKDAT!
So I found heritage. A company that makes les pauls just like they were made from back in the golden age basically. Got me one recently. Gold top heritage with locking tuners I added. Fuckin sick! Even has gold paint on the neck and back of the body. Super gold top lol. 59 duncuns. It's bad ass.
junk...2 piece back....would never own a newer one
My 50s has a ONE PIECE...maybe I got lucky?!?!?!
@@GripzNGatz yes prob so...according to the Gibby rep only about 10% have a 1 piece body.......only the custom shop uses 1 piece and the lightest of the blanks they get in...good for u man
Mines also one piece back. I have the 60s one tho
@@jsyoukr1 I worked in the lumber industry for 40 years. Trust me, 2 piece glued wood is much stronger than one piece.
Mine has a one piece back as well...
No it hasn’t, still have to go through at least three to get a quality specimen!
i went through two... only stopped at the second because the nut can be fixed and i overwrapped the strings so the all the paint chipped at the tail piece base isn't visible much... lord the setup from the factory is laughable
I bought gibson studio tribute 2019 and I'm disappointed. I have to send the guitar back because of electronic problems. There are some fucking noises coming out of pickups when changing volume. It was my first gibson. I can not understand how that went through checks in the factory and thomann who sold the guitar.
I never had issue with Les Paul quality, so the question is "did haters still throw shit about Gibson?"
Wait? No more throwing away and destroying Bad finishes or defectful guitars?
Nope….it’s has not
Around the 80s is when gibson left their home to cheap out and be shit in tennessee. The REAL Les Paul makers stayed in Kalamazoo and STILL to this day do great Les Pauls. REAL Les Pauls come from Kalamazoo... But I would love to stop saying that if it's actually true that Gibson is finally getting their shit together...
Seems like expectations are pretty low. Stays in tune? The finish is good? For three grand that baby better sing like an angel man! Shit
Exactly. Lowered expectations.
They commented on those aspects because that's been the main areas with QC issues in the past. These guitars definitely sing
Gibson was"kind enough" to take a defective multi thousand guitar??
lucky they were kind to you or you would be stuck.
They took mine
Garry Thomas took?
I love this guitar and want one so bad but, I just cant justify spending close to 3000$ on a guitar. How the hell is a painted piece of wood with simple electronics 3000$. I understand you're paying for the name of course but cmon lol
Make one if that’s all it is.
@@christianbrobst3486 I dont have to I got a great deal on a used goldtop 50s standard. 2k out the door!
No such thing as 3000$
Is that what they're teaching in the public school these days? Here's a clue : The dollar sign still goes on the left side of the amount.
@@larryl1427 wow my guy. You have a lot of time of your hands for making a comment about me putting the dollar sign behind 3000 lol
Sure is nice but it sure is overpriced
When anyone can go buy a Harley Benton Les Paul from Thomann (in Germany), or even an Epiphone which is the same OR BETTER quality for a fraction of the price, there's no reason to pay MANY times the price for the name Gibson being on the headstock. ALWAYS be wary of RUclips channels run by music stores whose primary objective is to get you to spend as much money possible with their business. They're VERY biased by profit!
Its not overpriced at all. The new gibson standards are cheaper than past year standards by quite a few 100 $. Stop complaining about the price, it costs as much as a guitar in that price range.
@@bambostarla6259 - Marketing brainwashing can make you believe anything. "Brand is something that makes people pay wat more than they ever should." You can say whatever you want to justify the money you spent on a Gibson. But, the facts are that a $500-$600 Epiphone has the same quality with a pair of upgraded pickups as any Gibson made these days. Other brands as well can do Gibson-type guitars as good as, if not better than, Gibson themselves. But, don't tell that to marketed sheep.
@@Axess-sv8nq Epiphone guitars are exceptional (the higher end ones especially) but there is a reason gibson guitars are very expensive. Most sub 1000 lp style guitars come with a poli finish that is not labor intensive, because its easy to work with. The nitrocellulose finish on gibson lps is a lot more labour intensive and that alone bumps up the price. Also the wood that gibson uses is more expensive. They use real flamed maple tops and not caps, and the mohogany is better quality. Of course wood and finish doesnt effect the sound of the isntrument very much. And of course lets not forget about the fact they are made in america. So you see, its not just about quality and sound, more like the way the guitar is made and the nuances in the construction. Its very simple.
@@bambostarla6259 - The ONLY thing which causes the high prices are names on headstocks. Materials, electronics, design - they ALL can be , and have been, done for much cheaper even using the same hardware. People can't see that because they've been fooled by exaggerations and lies used to justify outrageous pricing. Hype the quality with exaggerations and you can jack up the price.
When are you going to review some mayones?
This is stupid. When your talking about QC issues, your really talking about quality consistency, not an individual guitar. So if your not comparing a large group of the exact same guitars, any findings would be meaningless. I bought a 2018 SG, built before all the BS changes, and while they were supposedly just making junk. And guess what, it's an amazing flawless guitar. So I call Bullshit on the whole idea of this video. 🎶🎸