H Mo he doesn't know whether there are chains or not, because he doesn't venture far away from the norm. Kind of like Schrödinger's chains - they're both there and not until you start moving around :P
Finally someone who could articulate what I have been thinking all this time. Bravo! I will use this talk as a response to anyone in the future who are in denial about this problem.
TheCakeAintNoLie So just because "your government" aren't using the information they get from you NOW, means that it's okej to do a mass surveilance on it's people? He is telling you all that in this presentation, i don't think you've even listened to it cuz if you have you would have understood what it ment. Also listen to this one, it's better explained for people with a slow brain. www.ted.com/talks/mikko_hypponen_how_the_nsa_betrayed_the_world_s_trust_time_to_act
Day What part of 'I DON'T FUCKING CARE' don't you understand? I don't care that they *can* know what I'm talking about with my friends, I don't care that they *can* know what i bought online. I don't care that they *can* take money from my bank account. My brain is too slow to understand why I should care. Maybe you could help me out.
Luiz Costa Bro this is a youtube comment section, stop judging other people’s english skills dumbass, not everybody speaks english as their main language and far less people here are english teachers like you. I honestly would never expect to find an english teacher judging other people on a comment sections
Before watching the video, I was one of those people who felt that “only if you do bad acts do you need privacy”. However, after the multiple valid points the speaker has brought up, I can safely say that privacy is truly needed and that today’s society does lack the minimal amount of privacy that every human should be entitled to; I agree with the speaker. Every single person deserves to have a certain amount of privacy in their lives. As the speaker said, “all of us have things to hide”. These things need not be bad things. It could simply be things that we are not comfortable sharing with others. However, with the internet, nothing is private. Using certain tools, anybody can find out anything about anybody. As long as that person uses the internet in some way, he will have released some information about him. I feel that this is both good and bad. It is bad as it violates the basic amount of privacy one should have but at the same time it is good as it keeps ‘bad’ people in check. Thus, the status quo of privacy on the internet can and should be improved on. 200 words, Ahmad Uibaidillah, CMM/TB04
Ahmad Uibai Every time you call someone, every time you search the internet, every time you take a picture on a phone or computer, it's added to your file. Whenever you do something one an internet accusing device, it is added to the data the government and corporations keep on you. The only safe way to talk these days is via snail mail.
Ahmad, privacy is the base condition for freedom. It seems freedom doesn't matter to you. A state should not collect private details about non-suspects. That's what we're talking about. It's not about fighting crime.
Certainly a compelling a case, as the moderator mentioned :) Look up theintercept.com and Greenwald and Scahill et.al. as guests on Democracy Now for more straight talk
@@korben4340 I was just doing some research on privacy where the upcoming Toronto smart city by Google is concerned and had just been picking apart an article on TheIntercept for good info, just before I came here to learn more about online privacy... then read your comment. I followed your link and realized I was just at that site. It's a good one! Thanks for reinforcing it for me.
14:28 "... the measure of how free a society is is not how it treats its' good, obedient, compliant citizens, but how it treats its' dissidents and those who resist orthodoxy." What a strong, great quote. So true.
"... the measure of how free a society is,is not how it treats its' good,obedient,complieant citizens,but how it treate its' dissidents and those who resist orthodoxy."- Punchline.
I've seen easily over 200 (or maybe more) ted talks, and although so many of them are so incredible and mind opening, this one honestly has to be my #1 favorite. I strongly hope that this becomes one of Ted talks most viewed videos, because it's a video I wish every American could see.
+savedfaves In a democratic society the government is supposed to serve the people. I really do not believe most people in the USA would agree that the USA government serves them very well.
It’s not only the government this applies to All forms of surveillance How much snooping do we engage in and why Do we violate other’s privacy Do we protect our own ? After I look at myself and my accountability then I can address the government
“The measure of how free a society is not how they treat it’s good obedient compliant citizens, but how it treats its dissidents and those who resist orthodoxy”
I've been noticing lately that privacy is becoming cool again and it's refreshing to see. More and more people are getting aware of how important it is and why they should care.
I've been telling people similar things for years. I always get the "If the government wants to watch my boring life, then go ahead?" but what they don't realize is even the smallest amounts of information en mass can create things like extreme market advantage, or social engineering cues, and even more.
Excellent talk. Glen Greenwald, along with Jeremy Scahill, are two of the most courageous and effective journalists on the current international stage and they are doing what journalists are supposed to do - informing the masses about important stuff that affects them and holding power to account. They have my maximum respect.
Thank god something interesting!! ΙF this privacy issue goes on for decades, the world will probably look like a huge prison. We wont even be able to understand how messed things will be, because in time we ll get used to it. Slavery. I unsubscribed from Big think a week ago because 9 out of 10 or their videos were misleading and dangerous.
TheCakeAintNoLie There were economists sharing ideas about education. Their approach to business,money making, seems to go with everything. Now there was a P minister of a eu country talking about economics once . The lies he spilled out of his mouth were so provoking made the video come down from the flags he got. Now imagine someone that doesnt know this guy or his sinister past ( the name is papandreou btw) taking what he said as facts or as serious. ( i would say roughly 5/10 of their videos are linked to profit, macro-economics,monetary systems or someting else with an economic approach)
When we are born and get older we started to wear clothes,we go to school and do almost everything which other humans are doing.Why do you think we all behave the same way as other people's do...mostly because we are born in a society a place for educated peoples so in a way we are already born in a artificial social prison we already have all the given options/choices we need to make with our life.
Summit Gomez " and do almost everything which other humans" Primates and man learn and behave by mimicking others. Nothing is already decided before we actually do it. We make "us" ,we are trully free if we choose to. Although society throught conformity (using methods like shaming and others) instills priotities or influences, we still can against it and face the consequences to certain degree. Now in a " jail" situation the idea is that someone took care of that escape exit. You cant go anywhere. The sun rises and sets by his rules.
rurounisld wouldn't unsubscribing mean you just put your fingers in your ears and went LALALALALALAALAAAA if you KNOW that they are propagating you should be able to see trough it and learn something from it.
Excellent talk. I may not be doing anything wrong or illegal, but what I do is still my business and nobody else's. And that IS the point. It's not about having anything to hide. It's about that my lawful thoughts, feelings, and activities are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and I reserve the right to share these with whomever I want and for whatever reason I want, be it an arbitrary reason or not. And as for the reasons? Those too are MY BUSINESS. Privacy matters, people.
I agree with what Glenn Greenwald has said about privacy being important, and is not just for the “bad people”. In the past, I used to think that people should not be afraid of others invading their privacy if they did not have a guilty conscience. However, what I’ve really learnt is that everyone actually needs privacy in their lives. An example of people needing privacy is when they lock the door when they are in the bathroom. Almost everyone who goes to the bathroom lock the door, but is there anything wrong that? Most the time, the answer is no. The reason why people lock the door is because they do not want others to see the things they are doing, even though those things are not wrong. As human beings, it is a natural instinct to crave for privacy. Whenever we know we are being watched by someone, we are at our best behaviour, trying to paint the image that we are “good”. However, if we are constantly watched, this result in the lack of freedom as “mass surveillance creates a prison in the mind”. Thus, privacy is really important because it is the roots of our freedom. (200 words, Isaac Mak, CMM/TB02)
I agree with what Glenn Greenwald has to say about the fact that privacy matters. However, I do not agree that only bad people, or people who have done something wrong, need privacy. He mentioned that when aware we are being watched, our behaviour changes drastically. I completely agree with this. This is due to the sense of, "This is something I'm willing to do only if no one else is watching." I feel that every individual is different and each of us go through our own struggles and have our own self-discovery to do. Let’s say I am a teenager who was diagnosed with depression and is in the early stage of recovery. I would not want anyone to be able to see my relapses as I feel that would mess up my mentality even more. I would try my best to seem normal as I am being watched, but inside, I am still struggling as I am not given a private outlet to recover one step at-a-time. Every single person is entitled to privacy, whether or not they did something ‘bad’. We make our own mistakes and choices in life. Those experiences should not belong to anyone else. (200 words, Kamilia, CMM, TB03)
Great talk. This is one if the most important issues facing us in the 21st century. We all need to care about this if we are going to remain a free and open society.
I have nothing profound to add to this video , but man have I read some fantastic comments, and deeply erudite musings on what Glenn said . I have only this… Glenn’s understanding , and empathy towards the human condition is tear inducing in its simplicity and beauty . Glenn is a very important person saying extremely important things❤️
This was such an important and timely conversation. And it was filmed 7 years ago! You can tell this was unique in the way the moderated engaged with Glen after his presentation
In my country, people like to ask personal questions and peeking at your personal stuffs. In the cafes or restaurants, people like to stare at strangers and sometimes even hear their conversation. I never see those things when Im visiting another countries.
Great talk. I can really relate to this...Thank you Glenn Greenwald. Privacy in today’s society is very important. Privacy invasions/breaches can place a limit on your “personal power”. The more someone knows about us, the more power they can have over us. Privacy is about respecting individuals. If a person has a reasonable desire to keep something private, it is disrespectful to ignore that person’s wishes without a compelling reason (just cause) to do so. Privacy enables people to manage their reputations. How we are judged by others affects our opportunities, friendships, and overall well - being. People establish boundaries from others in society. These boundaries are both physical and informational. We need places of solitude to retreat to, places where we are free of the gaze of others in order to relax and feel at ease. Breaches of these boundaries can create awkward social situations and damage our relationships. In relationships, whether personal, professional, governmental or commercial, we depend upon trusting the other party. Privacy has a big influence in “controlling over one’s life”. Personal data is essential to so many decisions made about us, from whether we get a loan, a license or a job to our personal and professional reputations. Privacy is key to freedom of thought / speech. A watchful eye over everything we do, read or watch can chill us from exploring ideas outside the mainstream. Privacy helps protect our ability to associate with other people and engage in political activity. A key component of freedom of political association is the ability to do so with privacy if one chooses. Privacy provides us with the ability to change and have second chances. Many people are not static; they change and grow throughout their lives. There is a great value in the ability to have a second chance, to be able to move forward beyond a mistake, to be able to reinvent oneself. Privacy nurtures this ability. The most important reason why privacy matters is not having to explain or justify oneself. We may do a lot of things which, if judged from afar by others lacking complete knowledge or understanding , may seem odd or embarrassing or worse and can have a damaging effect on one’s health. It can be a heavy burden if we constantly have to wonder how everything we do will be perceived by others and have to be at the ready to explain…
Hard to imagine anyone NOT wanting privacy except for those who want to spy on us! Even they want their own privacy and are usually the most hard to find anything personal about online as he says!
The truth is we all have been living in a world of duality, scarcity and shame-if we shifted ourselves into a new perception of ourselves and our world we could heal ourselves, our global relationships, economy and our environment
All right, but one thing is posting things on social media devoted to be public, and other thing is giving your passwords. You can't see them as equal.
I like my privacy. There's a reason I taped over most of the cameras in my computers and cellphone. I live alone, so I don't really need to shut my phone down or store it in a metal box. I'm not talking much.
Couldnt agree more. As a person who does music I still believe we deserve privacy. After a while Its a peace of mind thing. It can cause physiological matters. You have to respect a persons inner space/personal life. Just because its not brought to attention doesnt mean you should still overhear or witness.
+Rico Gz Right. Sometimes ppl come in at wrong times and then release unauthorized private info about them. Which could put them in a False light. Hacking can also be a form.
Agree. UNRESTRICTED SURVEILLANCE MEANS THE STAGNATION OF ALL FUTURE PROGRESS. The biggest problem with surveillance is that it will inhibit any future change for the better. Most of the great revolutionaries and people who made a change for the better would now be called terrorists. If 500 years ago the World had had the kind of surveillance we have today we would still have the Inquisition as a form of law and the people in power would be the same.
I agree with Glenn Greenwald. I remember this thing I saw online once, that certain stores in malls had mirrors in their changing rooms that were actually two-way mirrors, so as to prevent or catch people who attempt to steal. I definitely found this unnerving and to this day, I still am paranoid and make it a point to check whether it truly is a mirror, by using a finger to touch the glass in which I am supposed to observe a gap between the finger and the mirror. Now, I do understand the security risks that the companies face, but like Greenwald mentioned, aren’t they just exploiting our privacy by assuming everyone is a bad person? Wouldn’t we in return feel at risk, since literally anyone could be viewing us? We, in return, would feel the risk in our security. Someone could use the footage of our most private moments to blackmail us and in this case, I think we can assume that the person who holds the authority to view the surveillance could be a bad person, since we, the public are assumed to be bad. 188 words, Elizabeth Mascrinhas, CMM/TB03
I do agree with Glenn Greenwald with saying that privacy matters and doesn’t differentiate people from being good or bad. I have always been concerned about privacy and that doesn’t make me someone with bad intentions. Glenn Greenwald said that everyone has something to hide and that even though they say they have nothing to hide, they are still not willing to give away their passwords to others, contradicting with what they just said. Privacy is important, not just for people with things to hide, but for everyone. There’s a reason why people have passwords for all their personal accounts, privacy is an individual’s realm for escape. It has always been stereotyped that those that care highly about privacy are those with something to hide, that they are hiding ill intentions. Privacy doesn’t determine who is good or bad because privacy is something everyone cares about, subconsciously or not. If privacy were to be taken away from people, as Glenn Greenwald said, their actions change. When they know that their every move is being monitored, their actions change because the sense of freedom is lost. Privacy is a sense of freedom, not a differentiation between good and bad people. (199 words, Wilkin Ng, CMM/TB04)
having privacy changes the way we interact with eachother. we spend energy on building trust worthy relationships so we can choose who to share our personal info with. in a world without privacy relationships dont have quality.
I agree with what Glenn Greenwald had said in this video. It is wrong to say that you have a guilty conscience just because you want privacy. Privacy is a right that everyone deserves since day one and something that everyone should respect. Glenn Greenwald’s words about surveillance being “prison in the mind” is true. Surveillance will only take away the freedom of the citizens and nothing else. The government should not take advantage of what they have to spy on people without them knowing and come up with a ridiculous theory that the people have done something shameful if they desire privacy. People are only “obedient and compliant” because the surveillance will instil fear in the people, causing them to be more cautious of their own behaviour. It is scary to think that you are constantly being watched because there will not be any way to express your own creativity and freedom. 153 words, Val, TB03/CMM
10:09 - 15:21 Is a great summation of this talk and why we should care about mass surveillance and how it affects our ability to find our own private thoughts and actions
"You want privacy to do bad sfuff." No? I want privacy because that's how life should be? I am who I've been and I've preached about privacy since age 13. Yes, there's a potential of things going wrong and the world is complex. Total privacy isn't what I'm asking. This issue is too long to explain.
This presentation pretty much explained all of the contents from this journal article which I have spent 4 hours reading, in less than 20 minutes lol.. thank you.
If you watch nothing else of these almost 21 minutes, I recommend 18:47 thru the end. Stellar and so true. Thank you, Mr. Greenwald -- wonderful TED Talk, and so important.
Thank you Glenn!! For those who don´t know, this great journalist is responsible for a series of reports which was ultimately responsible for the release of a political prisioner, ex-president Lula, from jail in Brazil. His resilience and courage for what he went through with his work (threat of much violence) is worth many, many prizes. Thank you so much for what you´ve done in my country, we all love you... And as a journalist myself, you´re my greatest inspiration.
"Mass surveillance creates a prison in the mind that is a much more subtle, and more effective, means of fostering compliance with social norms, or with social orthodoxy, than brute force could ever be". Until Covid, I was one of those people who wasn't really that worried about mass surveillance. I used to think, "I'm okay, I've got nothing to hide". I get it now.
If we are to accept the notion that the only check on a government's power is the displeasure of its citizens, then conditions must be such that political dissidence can not only exist but thrive. Otherwise, we as a people are screwed.
This TED talk is very similar to an argument ***** made in his great book "No Place to Hide" which is well worth purchasing, both for its description of the content and impact of the Edward Snowden revelations and for its indictment of the mainstream media. Thanks for this video! :-)
I agree with Glenn Greenwald view on the importance of privacy. That the world has become an “unprecedented zone of mass indiscriminate surveillance”. Mass surveillance in itself is something that everyone should be weary of. As humans, we all crave privacy. Hence the phrase “only people who are engaged in bad acts have a reason to want to hide something”. I do not agree with this statement. The word “bad” is used very loosely in this phrase as is isn’t defined what is actually considered bad. Additionally, everyone, even someone “good” has the right to privacy. Like Glenn Greenwald said, when someone knows that they are being surveyed, it forces them to become conformed and abide by the rules because they know they have no other choice. Hence, this shows that humans in itself, can never behave like they truly want to when they know they are being watched. Thus this proves that as people, we all need and crave privacy. 164 words, Jia Hui, CMM/TB02
Glenn Greenwald brings up several good points in this speech. Personally, the idea that the government may be watching your every step mortifies me. The fact that they don’t even trust their inhabitants enough, that they have to be on constant look out for you. Glenn also brings up the good point that everyone, even if they aren’t a bad person, have things to hide. For example, would you be willing to be under surveillance if you were on the toilet? What about when you’re having an intimate time with your spouse? Granted, a rare minority may enjoy this, but majority of us don’t. Which is why it was surprising to me when Glenn brought up the idea that people actually say that they don’t have anything to hide. As he said, if you had nothing to hide, you would be able to share your personal thoughts, and your deepest secrets with the first stranger you meet. As such, I agree immensely with Glenn in his views in this speech. 170 words, Renee Lim, CMM TB04
this was amazing - I remember watching this back in the day. Greenwald was an amazing person. I look at the things he says now and I try to understand what went so wrong…
I agree to a large extent with Glenn Greenwald. Privacy does matter, even if you have nothing to hide because sometimes, all we need is that personal space to breathe without being intruded. I myself thinks that I need privacy because I feel that for every single thing I do, every action I take, there is bound to be judgements from others. It is the fear of judgements that made me think that privacy is vital and with that, I will only publish what I think is good or great. As I quote from the man himself during the speech, “We make judgments every single day about the kinds of things that we say and think and do that we're willing to have other people know, and the kinds of things that we say and think and do that we don't want anyone else to know about.” To sum up, anyone deserves the right to keep some things private even if they are not doing anything wrong. It’s just that some things are not mean’t to be shown or shared publicly. (181 words, Sarah Afina, CMM/TB02)
Thank you...! I hope any kid hears that message and grows up knowing that "this is not a crime to protect his privacy, but a must". Kids who are told that privacy doesn't matter are more likely to be the next [monsters] or start forcing others to give up their privacy; or they become the most manipulated, paranoid, fearful and vulnerable persons... I'll fight to protect mine and tell my kids to do so!
+saladbarthief -- "A government isn't going to be malicious with your email, spread rumors about you, and use your email to talk to your friends." You don't know this for a fact. If the govt. wants to intimidate someone, or frame someone, or paint them in a bad light, they will do so. Just look at what the IRS did to conservatives political advocacy groups applying for 501(c)(3) status. They poked into aspects of the groups that had nothing to do with the stated goals of those groups.
In a functioning free society, you aren't afraid of ideas, you exchange them. In the current Western political landscape, truth is not merely misrepresented or falsified; it is overtly mocked. Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald didn't say this but it represents them: "I will not sleep until the whole world is awake." Big Thank you. For it is your understanding and your awakening that are feared, above all. John Pilger
" he who does not move, does not notice his chains" a very powerful quote
H Mo
he doesn't know whether there are chains or not, because he doesn't venture far away from the norm. Kind of like Schrödinger's chains - they're both there and not until you start moving around :P
H Mo
You lost me.
Doesn't sound like something a socialist would say.
Who said this? You? It's great
@@doodelay It was a quote from the video.
Finally someone who could articulate what I have been thinking all this time. Bravo!
I will use this talk as a response to anyone in the future who are in denial about this problem.
I just watched it and I'm not convinced.
TheCakeAintNoLie Give me you real name phone number, e-mail accounts, bank account password and username. I'm sure you won't be convinced.
TheCakeAintNoLie
So just because "your government" aren't using the information they get from you NOW, means that it's okej to do a mass surveilance on it's people? He is telling you all that in this presentation, i don't think you've even listened to it cuz if you have you would have understood what it ment.
Also listen to this one, it's better explained for people with a slow brain. www.ted.com/talks/mikko_hypponen_how_the_nsa_betrayed_the_world_s_trust_time_to_act
Day What part of 'I DON'T FUCKING CARE' don't you understand?
I don't care that they *can* know what I'm talking about with my friends, I don't care that they *can* know what i bought online. I don't care that they *can* take money from my bank account.
My brain is too slow to understand why I should care. Maybe you could help me out.
Day
Yes, I'd be fine with that because it's exactly the same thing.
Also, nobody is manipulating me.
For all who value freedom, this is well worth your time to consume. Excellent work.
Every time I watch Glenn Greenwald I learn something. I love this man.
Vitor Ribeiro Your paragraph doesn’t make any sense
Such a smart guy
Luiz Costa Bro this is a youtube comment section, stop judging other people’s english skills dumbass, not everybody speaks english as their main language and far less people here are english teachers like you. I honestly would never expect to find an english teacher judging other people on a comment sections
Same
just digging in on this amazing communicator. What a drive and admirable life. Someone to continually watch.
Before watching the video, I was one of those people who felt that “only if you do bad acts do you need privacy”. However, after the multiple valid points the speaker has brought up, I can safely say that privacy is truly needed and that today’s society does lack the minimal amount of privacy that every human should be entitled to; I agree with the speaker. Every single person deserves to have a certain amount of privacy in their lives. As the speaker said, “all of us have things to hide”. These things need not be bad things. It could simply be things that we are not comfortable sharing with others. However, with the internet, nothing is private. Using certain tools, anybody can find out anything about anybody. As long as that person uses the internet in some way, he will have released some information about him. I feel that this is both good and bad. It is bad as it violates the basic amount of privacy one should have but at the same time it is good as it keeps ‘bad’ people in check. Thus, the status quo of privacy on the internet can and should be improved on.
200 words, Ahmad Uibaidillah, CMM/TB04
I give this 95%, Ahmad. Great, well-rounded thoughts on the situation. Please come to my office if you'd like to discuss this further.
:P :P :P
Ahmad Uibai Every time you call someone, every time you search the internet, every time you take a picture on a phone or computer, it's added to your file. Whenever you do something one an internet accusing device, it is added to the data the government and corporations keep on you. The only safe way to talk these days is via snail mail.
Thank you for posting that Slate article. It's brilliant!
Ahmad, privacy is the base condition for freedom. It seems freedom doesn't matter to you. A state should not collect private details about non-suspects. That's what we're talking about. It's not about fighting crime.
You trust your government. That scares me.
116 NSA workers thought this was troubling.
Powerful hurrah at the end. What an intelligent man.
I've never had more of my opinions changed in 20 minutes.
lol
Welcome to the true world.
Certainly a compelling a case, as the moderator mentioned :) Look up theintercept.com and Greenwald and Scahill et.al. as guests on Democracy Now for more straight talk
@@korben4340 I was just doing some research on privacy where the upcoming Toronto smart city by Google is concerned and had just been picking apart an article on TheIntercept for good info, just before I came here to learn more about online privacy... then read your comment. I followed your link and realized I was just at that site. It's a good one! Thanks for reinforcing it for me.
It didn't change my mind at all. I still don't care about my privacy. I don't have anything to hide
From beginning to end this was a FANTASTIC TED talk! Definitely stowing this one away in my favorites.
Absolutely. Everything he said is why Startpage - the world's most private search engine exists! www.startpage.com/
14:28 "... the measure of how free a society is is not how it treats its' good, obedient, compliant citizens, but how it treats its' dissidents and those who resist orthodoxy." What a strong, great quote. So true.
"... the measure of how free a society is,is not how it treats its' good,obedient,complieant citizens,but how it treate its' dissidents and those who resist orthodoxy."- Punchline.
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Benjamin Franklin. Nice ;)
Korean Jesus yup.
+Vaibhav Gupta 911 inside job
Vaibhav Gupta +
Another #vacuous comment, thanks
More Powerful and Timely than EVER
I want my privacy - at all costs.
ME TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!
+DianeDi get VPN Asia and you'll get it
you and I both. For obvious reasons
Don't just want it, demand it. Make it non negotiable.
DianeDi +
I've seen easily over 200 (or maybe more) ted talks, and although so many of them are so incredible and mind opening, this one honestly has to be my #1 favorite. I strongly hope that this becomes one of Ted talks most viewed videos, because it's a video I wish every American could see.
Absolutely agree! Americans can take back their privacy by using a private search engine like Startpage. www.startpage.com/
Same to me.
that ending was GLORIOUS!
He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake!
Exactly what I though of too lol
He's an absolute legend. We owe the government nothing. They owe us everything.
+savedfaves In a democratic society the government is supposed to serve the people. I really do not believe most people in the USA would agree that the USA government serves them very well.
@@rickjones2509 That can be said about any government around the world, not just the U.S.
It’s not only the government this applies to All forms of surveillance
How much snooping do we engage in and why
Do we violate other’s privacy
Do we protect our own ?
After I look at myself and my accountability then I can address the government
I wasn't expecting this, but this is one of the best talks on the topics i've seen so far!
LeCaissie +
He is about to be jailed because of conspiracy against Sergio Moro a judge here in Brazil
“The measure of how free a society is not how they treat it’s good obedient compliant citizens, but how it treats its dissidents and those who resist orthodoxy”
Aaaaa
I can't tell you how much this video is needed today.
Agree! Do you use a private search engine like Startpage now? www.startpage.com/
I've been noticing lately that privacy is becoming cool again and it's refreshing to see. More and more people are getting aware of how important it is and why they should care.
This is one of the greatest talks I've ever heard. Glenn Greenwald nailed it. Thank you for this, Mr. Greenwald.
Privacy rights are human rights. Thank you Glenn.
I've been telling people similar things for years. I always get the "If the government wants to watch my boring life, then go ahead?" but what they don't realize is even the smallest amounts of information en mass can create things like extreme market advantage, or social engineering cues, and even more.
Excellent talk. Glen Greenwald, along with Jeremy Scahill, are two of the most courageous and effective journalists on the current international stage and they are doing what journalists are supposed to do - informing the masses about important stuff that affects them and holding power to account. They have my maximum respect.
Thanks . I needed a way to articulate why this matters
This talk becomes more important over time.
Thank god something interesting!!
ΙF this privacy issue goes on for decades, the world will probably look like a huge prison.
We wont even be able to understand how messed things will be, because
in time we ll get used to it.
Slavery.
I unsubscribed from Big think a week ago because 9 out of 10 or their videos were misleading and dangerous.
dangerous?
TheCakeAintNoLie There were economists sharing ideas about education.
Their approach to business,money making, seems to go with everything.
Now there was a P minister of a eu country talking about economics once .
The lies he spilled out of his mouth were so provoking made the video come down from the flags he got.
Now imagine someone that doesnt know this guy or his sinister past ( the name is papandreou btw) taking what he said as facts or as serious.
( i would say roughly 5/10 of their videos are linked to profit, macro-economics,monetary systems or someting else with an economic approach)
When we are born and get older we started to wear clothes,we go to school and do almost everything which other humans are doing.Why do you think we all behave the same way as other people's do...mostly because we are born in a society a place for educated peoples so in a way we are already born in a artificial social prison we already have all the given options/choices we need to make with our life.
Summit Gomez " and do almost everything which other humans"
Primates and man learn and behave by mimicking others.
Nothing is already decided before we actually do it. We make "us" ,we are trully free if we choose to.
Although society throught conformity
(using methods like shaming and others)
instills priotities or influences,
we still can against it and face the consequences to certain degree.
Now in a " jail" situation the idea is that someone took care of that escape exit. You cant go anywhere.
The sun rises and sets by his rules.
rurounisld
wouldn't unsubscribing mean you just put your fingers in your ears and went LALALALALALAALAAAA
if you KNOW that they are propagating you should be able to see trough it and learn something from it.
What a brave and intelligent man.
Excellent talk. I may not be doing anything wrong or illegal, but what I do is still my business and nobody else's. And that IS the point. It's not about having anything to hide. It's about that my lawful thoughts, feelings, and activities are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and I reserve the right to share these with whomever I want and for whatever reason I want, be it an arbitrary reason or not. And as for the reasons? Those too are MY BUSINESS. Privacy matters, people.
Exactly. It’s not a secret it’s just not your business.
Glenn is an excellent speaker.
I agree with what Glenn Greenwald has said about privacy being important, and is not just for the “bad people”. In the past, I used to think that people should not be afraid of others invading their privacy if they did not have a guilty conscience.
However, what I’ve really learnt is that everyone actually needs privacy in their lives. An example of people needing privacy is when they lock the door when they are in the bathroom. Almost everyone who goes to the bathroom lock the door, but is there anything wrong that? Most the time, the answer is no. The reason why people lock the door is because they do not want others to see the things they are doing, even though those things are not wrong.
As human beings, it is a natural instinct to crave for privacy. Whenever we know we are being watched by someone, we are at our best behaviour, trying to paint the image that we are “good”. However, if we are constantly watched, this result in the lack of freedom as “mass surveillance creates a prison in the mind”. Thus, privacy is really important because it is the roots of our freedom.
(200 words, Isaac Mak, CMM/TB02)
One of the most eloquent TED talks I have ever heard! He nailed it!!
It's about being respectful of someone's space and acknowledging everyone has a right to privacy. Respecting people's boundaries 👌💪💞
Glenn Greenwald is so articulate!
"mass surveillance creates a prison in the mind"
I agree with what Glenn Greenwald has to say about the fact that privacy matters. However, I do not agree that only bad people, or people who have done something wrong, need privacy. He mentioned that when aware we are being watched, our behaviour changes drastically. I completely agree with this. This is due to the sense of, "This is something I'm willing to do only if no one else is watching." I feel that every individual is different and each of us go through our own struggles and have our own self-discovery to do. Let’s say I am a teenager who was diagnosed with depression and is in the early stage of recovery. I would not want anyone to be able to see my relapses as I feel that would mess up my mentality even more. I would try my best to seem normal as I am being watched, but inside, I am still struggling as I am not given a private outlet to recover one step at-a-time. Every single person is entitled to privacy, whether or not they did something ‘bad’. We make our own mistakes and choices in life. Those experiences should not belong to anyone else.
(200 words, Kamilia, CMM, TB03)
This needs more views
Should've gotten a standing ovation IMHO.
Great talk. This is one if the most important issues facing us in the 21st century. We all need to care about this if we are going to remain a free and open society.
i have not had complete privacy for at least 3 years.not even a room. true story.
finally someone USEFUL and worth the ideas and evidence / on Ted.
I have nothing profound to add to this video , but man have I read some fantastic comments, and deeply erudite musings on what Glenn said . I have only this… Glenn’s understanding , and empathy towards the human condition is tear inducing in its simplicity and beauty . Glenn is a very important person saying extremely important things❤️
This was such an important and timely conversation. And it was filmed 7 years ago!
You can tell this was unique in the way the moderated engaged with Glen after his presentation
In my country, people like to ask personal questions and peeking at your personal stuffs. In the cafes or restaurants, people like to stare at strangers and sometimes even hear their conversation. I never see those things when Im visiting another countries.
Best talk I've ever listened to. So concise.
Glenn's a hero of mine. So much courage, not afraid to punch up!
Great talk. I can really relate to this...Thank you Glenn Greenwald.
Privacy in today’s society is very important. Privacy invasions/breaches can place a limit on your “personal power”. The more someone knows about us, the more power they can have over us. Privacy is about respecting individuals. If a person has a reasonable desire to keep something private, it is disrespectful to ignore that person’s wishes without a compelling reason (just cause) to do so. Privacy enables people to manage their reputations. How we are judged by others affects our opportunities, friendships, and overall well - being. People establish boundaries from others in society. These boundaries are both physical and informational. We need places of solitude to retreat to, places where we are free of the gaze of others in order to relax and feel at ease. Breaches of these boundaries can create awkward social situations and damage our relationships. In relationships, whether personal, professional, governmental or commercial, we depend upon trusting the other party. Privacy has a big influence in “controlling over one’s life”. Personal data is essential to so many decisions made about us, from whether we get a loan, a license or a job to our personal and professional reputations. Privacy is key to freedom of thought / speech. A watchful eye over everything we do, read or watch can chill us from exploring ideas outside the mainstream. Privacy helps protect our ability to associate with other people and engage in political activity. A key component of freedom of political association is the ability to do so with privacy if one chooses. Privacy provides us with the ability to change and have second chances. Many people are not static; they change and grow throughout their lives. There is a great value in the ability to have a second chance, to be able to move forward beyond a mistake, to be able to reinvent oneself. Privacy nurtures this ability. The most important reason why privacy matters is not having to explain or justify oneself. We may do a lot of things which, if judged from afar by others lacking complete knowledge or understanding , may seem odd or embarrassing or worse and can have a damaging effect on one’s health. It can be a heavy burden if we constantly have to wonder how everything we do will be perceived by others and have to be at the ready to explain…
What inherent incentive do private institutions and governments have to respect the rights of the individual?...
Every student around the world should see this. I hate when i hear people say ; it´s ok with me i have nothing to hide.
For the people who vote this down, they should read 1984
Hard to imagine anyone NOT wanting privacy except for those who want to spy on us! Even they want their own privacy and are usually the most hard to find anything personal about online as he says!
The truth is we all have been living in a world of duality, scarcity and shame-if we shifted ourselves into a new perception of ourselves and our world we could heal ourselves, our global relationships, economy and our environment
Gonna put this on loop for the rest of my life
Faith in humanity restored
Every time I realize that there are a lot of other smart people out there who care.
All right, but one thing is posting things on social media devoted to be public, and other thing is giving your passwords. You can't see them as equal.
I like my privacy. There's a reason I taped over most of the cameras in my computers and cellphone. I live alone, so I don't really need to shut my phone down or store it in a metal box. I'm not talking much.
Couldnt agree more. As a person who does music I still believe we deserve privacy. After a while Its a peace of mind thing. It can cause physiological matters. You have to respect a persons inner space/personal life. Just because its not brought to attention doesnt mean you should still overhear or witness.
Such as like Convos and Masturbation etc right.
+Rico Gz Right. Sometimes ppl come in at wrong times and then release unauthorized private info about them. Which could put them in a False light. Hacking can also be a form.
Understood. Its Unsettling to even think about how many are/were invading privacy and where its being Leaked to w/o consent.
Agree. UNRESTRICTED SURVEILLANCE MEANS THE STAGNATION OF ALL FUTURE PROGRESS. The biggest problem with surveillance is that it will inhibit any future change for the better. Most of the great revolutionaries and people who made a change for the better would now be called terrorists. If 500 years ago the World had had the kind of surveillance we have today we would still have the Inquisition as a form of law and the people in power would be the same.
This is SO applicable to today.
This man says the why i regret to have a facebook account and another social media sites, bad i was too young to get the importance of privacy.
I agree with Glenn Greenwald. I remember this thing I saw online once, that certain stores in malls had mirrors in their changing rooms that were actually two-way mirrors, so as to prevent or catch people who attempt to steal. I definitely found this unnerving and to this day, I still am paranoid and make it a point to check whether it truly is a mirror, by using a finger to touch the glass in which I am supposed to observe a gap between the finger and the mirror. Now, I do understand the security risks that the companies face, but like Greenwald mentioned, aren’t they just exploiting our privacy by assuming everyone is a bad person? Wouldn’t we in return feel at risk, since literally anyone could be viewing us? We, in return, would feel the risk in our security. Someone could use the footage of our most private moments to blackmail us and in this case, I think we can assume that the person who holds the authority to view the surveillance could be a bad person, since we, the public are assumed to be bad.
188 words, Elizabeth Mascrinhas, CMM/TB03
This man is brilliant
I do agree with Glenn Greenwald with saying that privacy matters and doesn’t differentiate people from being good or bad. I have always been concerned about privacy and that doesn’t make me someone with bad intentions. Glenn Greenwald said that everyone has something to hide and that even though they say they have nothing to hide, they are still not willing to give away their passwords to others, contradicting with what they just said.
Privacy is important, not just for people with things to hide, but for everyone. There’s a reason why people have passwords for all their personal accounts, privacy is an individual’s realm for escape. It has always been stereotyped that those that care highly about privacy are those with something to hide, that they are hiding ill intentions. Privacy doesn’t determine who is good or bad because privacy is something everyone cares about, subconsciously or not. If privacy were to be taken away from people, as Glenn Greenwald said, their actions change. When they know that their every move is being monitored, their actions change because the sense of freedom is lost. Privacy is a sense of freedom, not a differentiation between good and bad people.
(199 words, Wilkin Ng, CMM/TB04)
Walls in my school are made of glass. I feel really uncomfortable knowing that anyone walking by is watching what I do....
really?
having privacy changes the way we interact with eachother. we spend energy on building trust worthy relationships so we can choose who to share our personal info with. in a world without privacy relationships dont have quality.
I agree with what Glenn Greenwald had said in this video. It is wrong to say that you have a guilty conscience just because you want privacy. Privacy is a right that everyone deserves since day one and something that everyone should respect.
Glenn Greenwald’s words about surveillance being “prison in the mind” is true. Surveillance will only take away the freedom of the citizens and nothing else. The government should not take advantage of what they have to spy on people without them knowing and come up with a ridiculous theory that the people have done something shameful if they desire privacy. People are only “obedient and compliant” because the surveillance will instil fear in the people, causing them to be more cautious of their own behaviour. It is scary to think that you are constantly being watched because there will not be any way to express your own creativity and freedom.
153 words, Val, TB03/CMM
This is really something to think about.
10:09 - 15:21 Is a great summation of this talk and why we should care about mass surveillance and how it affects our ability to find our own private thoughts and actions
"You want privacy to do bad sfuff." No? I want privacy because that's how life should be? I am who I've been and I've preached about privacy since age 13. Yes, there's a potential of things going wrong and the world is complex. Total privacy isn't what I'm asking. This issue is too long to explain.
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That's not privacy
This presentation pretty much explained all of the contents from this journal article which I have spent 4 hours reading, in less than 20 minutes lol.. thank you.
Love this. I have watched 5 times.
If you watch nothing else of these almost 21 minutes, I recommend 18:47 thru the end. Stellar and so true. Thank you, Mr. Greenwald -- wonderful TED Talk, and so important.
Thank you Glenn!! For those who don´t know, this great journalist is responsible for a series of reports which was ultimately responsible for the release of a political prisioner, ex-president Lula, from jail in Brazil. His resilience and courage for what he went through with his work (threat of much violence) is worth many, many prizes.
Thank you so much for what you´ve done in my country, we all love you... And as a journalist myself, you´re my greatest inspiration.
And helped install a dictator, Bolsanaro. Who is selling off, and burning the Amazon forest faster the a mcmansion complex in Florida.
@@black_sheep_nation How did help install Bolsanaro?
Lula is not a good guy.
9 years ago but even more relevant end of June 2020
"Mass surveillance creates a prison in the mind that is a much more subtle, and more effective, means of fostering compliance with social norms, or with social orthodoxy, than brute force could ever be". Until Covid, I was one of those people who wasn't really that worried about mass surveillance. I used to think, "I'm okay, I've got nothing to hide". I get it now.
Fantastic articulation of a challenging topic!
If we are to accept the notion that the only check on a government's power is the displeasure of its citizens, then conditions must be such that political dissidence can not only exist but thrive. Otherwise, we as a people are screwed.
I'm going mad I think I feel like I've being controlled and watch by "someone".
This TED talk is very similar to an argument ***** made in his great book "No Place to Hide" which is well worth purchasing, both for its description of the content and impact of the Edward Snowden revelations and for its indictment of the mainstream media.
Thanks for this video! :-)
Awesome last quotes !
I agree with Glenn Greenwald view on the importance of privacy. That the world has become an “unprecedented zone of mass indiscriminate surveillance”. Mass surveillance in itself is something that everyone should be weary of. As humans, we all crave privacy. Hence the phrase “only people who are engaged in bad acts have a reason to want to hide something”. I do not agree with this statement. The word “bad” is used very loosely in this phrase as is isn’t defined what is actually considered bad. Additionally, everyone, even someone “good” has the right to privacy.
Like Glenn Greenwald said, when someone knows that they are being surveyed, it forces them to become conformed and abide by the rules because they know they have no other choice. Hence, this shows that humans in itself, can never behave like they truly want to when they know they are being watched. Thus this proves that as people, we all need and crave privacy.
164 words, Jia Hui, CMM/TB02
EXCELLENT presentation !!
This completely changed my mind on this matter! Great job Glenn Greenwald!
This is why I value privacy above all else. I would never want anyone to publish anything of mine. Whether it’s financial, email, or anything
Glenn Greenwald brings up several good points in this speech. Personally, the idea that the government may be watching your every step mortifies me. The fact that they don’t even trust their inhabitants enough, that they have to be on constant look out for you. Glenn also brings up the good point that everyone, even if they aren’t a bad person, have things to hide. For example, would you be willing to be under surveillance if you were on the toilet? What about when you’re having an intimate time with your spouse? Granted, a rare minority may enjoy this, but majority of us don’t. Which is why it was surprising to me when Glenn brought up the idea that people actually say that they don’t have anything to hide. As he said, if you had nothing to hide, you would be able to share your personal thoughts, and your deepest secrets with the first stranger you meet. As such, I agree immensely with Glenn in his views in this speech.
170 words, Renee Lim, CMM TB04
Surveillance is triggered by fear which leads to unhealthy situation. Privacy is essential to human healthiness.
It all starts being imprinted in our brains with Santa Claus...."He sees you when your sleeping, he knows when you're awake......"
this was amazing - I remember watching this back in the day. Greenwald was an amazing person. I look at the things he says now and I try to understand what went so wrong…
One of the best TED presentations. Actually useful and insightful.
I agree to a large extent with Glenn Greenwald. Privacy does matter, even if you have nothing to hide because sometimes, all we need is that personal space to breathe without being intruded.
I myself thinks that I need privacy because I feel that for every single thing I do, every action I take, there is bound to be judgements from others. It is the fear of judgements that made me think that privacy is vital and with that, I will only publish what I think is good or great. As I quote from the man himself during the speech, “We make judgments every single day about the kinds of things that we say and think and do that we're willing to have other people know, and the kinds of things that we say and think and do that we don't want anyone else to know about.”
To sum up, anyone deserves the right to keep some things private even if they are not doing anything wrong. It’s just that some things are not mean’t to be shown or shared publicly.
(181 words, Sarah Afina, CMM/TB02)
When you say “Disclose government secrets” don’t you mean crimes?
What a stud ,this guy is soooooo needed..
Easily the most amazing journalist of all time
18:00 ***the essence of journalism
Thank you...!
I hope any kid hears that message and grows up knowing that "this is not a crime to protect his privacy, but a must".
Kids who are told that privacy doesn't matter are more likely to be the next [monsters] or start forcing others to give up their privacy; or they become the most manipulated, paranoid, fearful and vulnerable persons... I'll fight to protect mine and tell my kids to do so!
Brilliant as always. Please people read “no place to hide”
04:50 - 05:30 - I love that part :D
+saladbarthief -- "A government isn't going to be malicious with your email, spread rumors about you, and use your email to talk to your friends."
You don't know this for a fact. If the govt. wants to intimidate someone, or frame someone, or paint them in a bad light, they will do so. Just look at what the IRS did to conservatives political advocacy groups applying for 501(c)(3) status. They poked into aspects of the groups that had nothing to do with the stated goals of those groups.
*+saladbarthief* The government consists of _people_ (_individuals_).
Nuff said.
The last bit was amazing!
So glad Glenn Greenwald is fighting this cause. He's the man and clearly a super smart dude. Keep up the great work Glenn!
6 years on. Still fighting.
Downloading and saving this video on my hard drive. Just in case this is removed in future.
In a functioning free society, you aren't afraid of ideas, you exchange them.
In the current Western political landscape, truth is not merely misrepresented or falsified; it is overtly mocked.
Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald didn't say this but it represents them: "I will not sleep until the whole world is awake." Big Thank you.
For it is your understanding and your awakening that are feared, above all. John Pilger
Volcanic, powerful speech! Thank you for your work, Mr Greenwald. Thank you for telling us the truth!