Things Most Hifi Reviewers won't tell you because... 🙄
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2020
- Can Hifi reviewers be trusted? I've heard many times that a review is an "ad" for the company or a marketing scheme. Well, here are some truths spilled...
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Things Hifi Reviewers won't tell you because... they are afraid what the public may think of them. (including myself)
for more info on our Reviewer info, patreon, and personal interest in our reviews: nbtsmedia.com/about-us/
Also check out a video about...👇
Spotify for Hi-Fi Absolutely Sucks? 🤔
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Why you shouldn't buy Chinese Hi-Fi products
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Hi-Fi Real Talk ! Maximize/evaluate your Speaker's performance in a small room
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I do know in a fact that ALL major hifi publications do take adds to their sites and who ever pays about the add can dictate what the reviewer says about their equipment. Take the biggest snake oli seller Darko Audio. Have you EVER seen review where he says something is just bad? No, not once. And i know this because i was asked to make reviews to major Hifi publication in finland and i left it cos i can't say what i really think about somethings... Its the same in all european publications and in US too. That is just how it works, smaller reviewers CAN say what they want UNTIL the gear sponsors start to dictate what you can say. Seen it happen. Tho i trust what Jay says.
Apparently the man in the chair ( I believe is an old ad for Maxell cassette tapes) is Peter Murphy.
Why do you think Darko disabled comments on his channel.
This is good. You've come a long way with being more comfortable on camera
What I would like to see more of from reviewers is actual in-depth sound comparisons between similarly priced speakers/components. I find that gives me more insight and understanding of what each particular piece of gear sounds like, as opposed to reviews of individual components reviewed in isolation. Context is everything.
Please do more of these if you can.
Thanks for the video!
I do have a question. If you get a piece of gear that you don't like, do you review it or would you rather not say anything negative?
Thats a good point. Many choose to send it back or get approved by manufacturer by showing them the video first (with options to back out) - we personally don’t give options for any of that and we have a statement on our policy page that reads “by sending in your product, you agree to not pursue and legal action for negative feedback”
@@Jayiyagi This is the problem with RUclips reviews. All reviews are (generally) positive. Can you imagine a movie reviewer or food critic giving favorable reviews to every movie and restaurant? Please, have the courage to publish a really negative review once in a while. It'll do wonders for your credibility.
I don't understand the point of a review if you can't make a critical negative review. You can't trust RUclips reviews and instead have to go to user experiences.
@@joesugarman1355 it is a problem , a big one. I do bad reviews if they go past an unacceptable threshold. Mine are big problems, expanse for little performance. IFi zen stream video and Auralic Aries g1.
Great honest take one he subject. I like how thorough you described your review process of trying different amps and dacs during the review. I also can imagine getting burnt out, and tired of the minute differences of audio gear if I did it all the time.
Thanks for the insight into your world Jay. Just letting you know that I took your advice and bought the LRS's from your previous employer (the week you were leaving) and I'm enjoying them. I've also bought a REL T5i to go with them and that helped as well (yeah, maybe I need a second one). I trust your opinion and that you have the best intentions when you're recommending something. I'm sure I wouldn't hear things exactly the same way as you, but you help to at least point me in the right direction. Thanks for that.
Your honesty is refreshing!
The biggest red flag?
When a reviewer rarely gives a negative review.
No negative review from NBTS yet.............
Why? There's nothing inherently more honest about a negative review. It's better for the reviewer to simply not publish negative reviews about anything they don't like because it burns bridges.
@@markinjhawkland724 “publishing negative reviews burns bridges” thanks for answering your own question.
@@pacificateur3630 not true. In fact we often get criticism for publishing negative reviews - some ppl don’t see the point
@@FoxAboutTown more negative reviews does not mean less/smaller red flags.
You come off as a very self aware person, I highly respect that! Every audio niche seems to have their own way of youtube reviewing, be it HiFi, Car Audio or Pro/DJ. Personally Id like to see all the audio reviews adhere to some form of STANDARD! Implement hard scientific data that transcends personal opinion like the old magazines used to do. Pair reviewed gear with chosen components on a good/better/best scale such as amps/pre-amps/DACs etc etc. Stick to a specific set of ref tracks to listen to when reviewer is formulating their personal opinions and only deviate occasionally.
Good video, I noticed one time it looks like you had some Denon products in the background. I bought the Denon PMA - 1600 ne integrated amp and the Denon Dcd- 1600ne without not many reviews out there. I'm happy with it , I tried the Cambridge cxa 81 but the treble was too bright for me so I bought the Denon gear. How about a review on the Denon products..
I appreciate the honest takes you're doing, keep it up!
Nice video and even better evil laugh at 8:58.
Tarun a British audiophile is the most honest & in depth reviewer out there
Agreed. British Audiophile, Zero Fidelity & New Record Day are my favourite hifi channels for technical reviews. NRD put a lot of budget & thought into bringing some quite unique reviews to YT. Tarun has excellent content on acoustics & speaker design which every audiophile should watch. . I don't believe these reviewers would mislead their subscribers just to sell a product. Jay is good too but I've only started watching it. Also a shout out to Andrew Robinson who has a different but very accessible reviewing style and Steve Gutenberg who just loves listening to music.
Maybe he should review kit thats affordable to most people then. You can't really go wrong reviewing higher midrange to high end equipment all the time, just say it's good and review over. I got bored watching his reviews but do have a look from time to time but loose interest as always. I think people whi review audio should do budget midrange and high end, maybe he would have more subscribers, you don't need to spend 5k on a amp to get great sound. I have found the more i spend on hi-fi the less value i get for my money, 2k on any hi-fi component should be enough on hi-fi, if you think it's not then maybe we need a channel on what equipment works well with other equipment.
Why do you say Tarun is honest out of interest?
You did make some great points, great vid.
There's InToit Reviews... and then, there's the rest... ;) Nice points Jay, as always!
Ive been doing research for quite some time now. Watched so many reviews. I def trust you the most. I get the feeling you really try to stay objective and tell us if a piece is better or worse in your opinion.
Has the paint on the wall extended up to the ceiling yet?
First person to pop to mind watching this was Sean from Zero Fidelity. He doesn’t seem to be the same in his reviews as in his Livestreams. He seems like more of a good boy in his reviews but a lot more outspoken in real life. I can’t picture Z Reviews being different in real life though lol
Z is a tool
Best way to buy HiFi is to take favourite music to few HiFi shops and audition different gear with own ears. At least speakers and amplifiers.
Or Ebay with return policy.
Your favorite music will sound different. You will hear stuff you hadn’t heard before. You will think that the new is better than your current. It could be…..
@@beslemeto i dont trust eBay
Great video! Still high on the parasound new classic 200 integrated and would it pair well with Klipsch heresy iv or perhaps ohm walsh 1000 thanks. Stay True. Be Well
not sound related, but i like the cool down tone calibration colors of your video.
When it comes to Hi Fi RUclips reviews, you start to notice reviewers that have opinions you can relate to or agree with by watching reviews of gear you have heard or owned. That more or less validates that reviewer in a way and I can honestly say that I appreciate your reviews in that light.
So many Hi Fi reviewer either pander, ramble, or just don't seem to hear what I'm hearing. I think comparisons offer the most value out of all RUclips content. Keep up the good work.
My third view on your channel. I appreciate your honesty. I subscribed to your channel based on your honesty, and you are a straight shooter 👍
Thank you for a good job.
Pure and honest. That’s why I sub here. I have made purchases because of you and a few other reviews. Most important it worked.
Nice. If you want to keep quantity up without overloading the reviews, advice/perspective reviews are awesome. I would also enjoy videos just on change in trends and what you think the future holds. Further talk about the music you like or remaster of originally harsh albums that you think the masses would find sonically pleasing. Mofi albums might be an interesting diversion.
Can you share your playlist in Spotify thank you jay.... thank you for the honest review always
Back in the mid 50's, when Rock was just gaining momentum, DJ's were being paid under the table to play a certain song or group, Payola as they called it. Kind of in the same vein, but different.
I’m new here and love your content. Where are you from?
Thanks for your honesty
Good work man.
9:21 Burnout. I love tweaking speaker acoustics and crossovers and it's the same audiophile passion without spending anything. But sometimes I get that burnout thing and can't tell how a speaker sounds at all. lol After a few cones and relaxing and doing something else for a half hour I'm right again.
Will you be doing the SMSL SP400?! I have a question about it but I wanna see if you notice it first.
"Well No shit Jay" you had me dying laughing 🤣 love you brother
Great line, great delivery. Jay should find a way to work that into EVERY video.
You rounded that up very well.
There has to be some passion when you put a lot of work into a relatively small audience.
Thanks for the incite!
A lot of the car channels that popped up are guys who have actual car tv shows or magazine columns and they brought their fans over to RUclips. That would account for their seemingly explosive growth in the first year.
Please if possible could you kindly review the Naim Uniti Atom and Nova all in one network ampler with suitable speakers , also if possible the Soundbar Sonos Arc . Thanks is advance
How do I submit a request to be on the show? =) ... I'd love to just hang out / talk audio when it's safe.
I like that there are different RUclips hifi reviewers with different characters, processes and styles.
As although hifi is a niche area thr truth is there are so many manufacturers and products out there, so it is great when reviewers give a general impression ...on a product and or a brand. Especially products that are not easy to find and demo locally.
In the old days it was hifi magazines some were better than others but collectively would help people form an opinion or short list.
The main problem with hifi is synergy as each product in the chain from source to speaker can and will effect the end result to some degree...which sadly puts many people off hifi.
Therefore there are two functions...the first to help those already interested in hifi to get a system or upgrade together and secondly to attract new people into hifi and make it appealing and easy to understand.
As it is easy to get confused and go round and round in ever more expensive circles
Hi, Jay. Two things. (1) I used to do radio (commercial and university) where it's best to sound like your are talking to one person. I think you do a great job at that. There was also a joke: "Sincerity. If you can fake that, you've got it made." (2) Speaking of personas, there is one audio reviewer I watch who after six years was able to buy a very big modern house and even said that that had been his goal. So, he is clearly making bank. He also happens to be a good reviewer in my opinion. So, I guess there is room for different approaches, as you very clearly explained. Thanks for your work.
'able to buy a very big modern house' is a huge giveaway as to whom this 'reviewer' is tbh.
@@MrB10N1CLE I think you can be an honest reviewer and still want to monetize your work. The guy I was referring to works hard and knows what he is talking about. I've learned a lot from him. If he doesn't like something, he tells you. He also does direct comparisons. Check out Z Reviews and decide for yourself.
Im so interesting seeing you reviewing bifrost 2 dac
actually I have for soundstage. You'll find it here : ruclips.net/p/PLPOzvlhtSqn5xdc__ftuSt4Rxy_wm5Af0
@@Jayiyagi you are the best.. thanx .
No one has the right to judge other people and what they do. Look I view the video channels because I like what I see and hear. Just stay true to yourself and the products you received for review. Thank you for your service.
There's a difference between judging and being aware so you can put what they say into context.
I respect the fact that you are one of few reviewers who don't use crazy made-up audiophile terms like "creamy", "buttery" etc.
Questions:
*Do you still own the Raal Sr1a?
*Thoughts on know-it-all Frequency response junky or measurement junky reviewers?
My takeaway from this video: Time to start a channel about audiophile gamer cats. 😄
Would be awesome to have a recorder in your listening room and have RUclipsrs watch you live as you do your reviews. Maybe one or two days a week.
Jay, still waiting on a review of anything from Axiom. Hope you grabbed a pair of speakers while you were at the factory...
7:20 “at least it gives me a piece of mind that I’m not pulling stuff out of my asses” 😄
It's an expression....
Right?😅
How many donkeys are we talking about anyway?
Nice follow on from Sean's live stream last night.
👍👍👍
Incredible content!
ZF seems like he is getting burned out and stressed out.
There are so many audio reviews on RUclips. I’m getting close to 50 and just starting to get into audio and have literally spent months researching audio equipment and really I’m no closer to having a concrete idea of what my long term plan is in regards to product selection. I live in Eastern Canada and there is just nothing to really go and see in person and with the pandemic I can’t visit any audio shows so I’m pretty much In a wait and hold pattern. Currently fixing up my home theatre setup but would like to focus on two channel setup as well as a headphone station. Unfortunately I don’t have any trust in RUclipsrs/reviewers as I don’t know what their motives are behind the reviews.
[Tough question] Do you get to keep the gears? After a positive review? Would the gears be like payment for a review??? A lot of Chinese and little known manufacturers seem to send their gears for reviews.
Very, very nice, sincere and completely enjoyable video. I really appreciate your efforts to come across as very genuine and earnest. Keep up the good work.
Oh... and try not to make so much money!!! :D
Agree about cats, definitely easy entry point on RUclips or Twitter
As you on steves channel... good stuff..
Well, either a reviewer can buy all of the products on their own, such as Consumer Reports, or they rely on people lending them to them, or they rely on manufacturers sending them samples. If the latter, then there's a lot of pressure to give a good review, since if they give too many bad reviews, then no one will send them anything.
"It is an Evil laugh you have." ~ Hoban Washburne
What about those Dali’s behind you
I'm curious why you think affiliate links are unethical. Is it because there is a potential compromise in integrity? For example, positively reviewing a specific product so that viewers can use your link? Or am I missing something else?
affiliate links means that you get a cut from every sale. Meaning that you are getting a commission off the sales. I personally think that is no different than a salesman.
But each to their own, that is just my opinion - and an opinion that will cost me and nobody else.
@@Jayiyagi I see. I understand it better now. Thanks for sharing!
If a product you review needs "burn in" time do you wait for that to happen before you review it?
that happens in the que room/burn in room & it is 10-50 hrs more than what the manufacture recommends
Your reviews are great! I have a question re how you do AB comparisons. Are you using switch boxes and how about the source switching.
Good & pleasantly different hi-fi video. I was just ready to write a comment on the cute-cats, squirrels, loving inter-species cute-pet relationship videos etc etc but you touched on these video good-earners at this video's end ...all the cutesy pet vids getting up to 43 million (I've seen once) & more often, 20 million+ & very very often 4 - 7 million views, that's where RUclips videos massive bucks are for sure! it was those crazy high views that got me looking for which vids are the biggest earners & I've seen no equals. When we meet new people, friends of friends etc, (in that vaguely remincent pre-covid life) you find allmost everyone you socially meet, at first has some degree or other of an up-front copied or self-stylised persona that you start seeing through after you know them longer, (I remember we all did it as young kids in groups) I guess hi-vid folk are the same but you yourself do better than many by what seems to be "just being yourself" way to go & if people dont like it ...tough & there's plenty of types or 'brands' of reviewers out there to suit almost anyone. One very well known reviewer said "if I dont like a particular hi-fi component sent or offered to me, then I wont review it on my videos or mention it & I'll just politely send it back" i personally think that attitude is a cop-out or "not good" at least ...it's dissengenuous for a so-called impartial & neutral reviewer, & could lead to some viewer's expensive mistakes, like ....that review's 3 or 4 available speakers may not suit some amplifier hyped by other reviewers with different gear & he'll not review it & just return it so his followers will not be warned ehich speakers will not match an elswhere-hyped up amplifier. Plus ...it's a win win win reviewing opportunity for manufacturers sending that reviewer anything as he'll like it & plug it or just say nothing to anyone if he hates it. He's popular enough for me not to need to name him
Why doesn't anyone review the company out of Tianjin called Raphaelite? They make nice amps and the fit and finish is excellent.
Advert notification when vid starts? Daily vids = quantity over quality?
Look at Raven Audio integrated amps.
all American = we are charging you through the nose because we're incapable of competing with China
@@Silvashoots Decware is all American and not only competes with china,but beats it in both quality and most importantly....COST.
@@karenjobagy5822 LOL, not at all.
I make no money at all !! I run off all passion for audio and passion of me subscribers ! But i don't consider myself a reviewer anymore at all !!
, i just share my expierences with audio ,
i have a full time blue collar job i am a maintence man who works on multimillion dollar machines and robots all night long, yeap I build the new Chevy Corvette stingray , Theirs only a few reviewers i trust and Jay is one of them !
Keep up the good work buddy !! And as always ✌ 😆
Hi Tee-Jay. I have to say that your opinion is highly regarded for a honest review. Your videos are enjoyable, and there’s nothing better then “pop the hood” on a piece of gear. Best regards, Brian.
@@brianh4596 Thanks Brian ! 😃
2:28 an audio reviewer who's name starts with *DM* and ends with *S* once put his hand on my leg and told me he wanted to make bang
but much like his takes on audio products it was a major disappointment.
Thank god the room was soundproofed otherwise the neighbours might've asked why there was a crying child in my appartment.
Huh?
I.... I don't what to answer to that
Jay is trustworthy. I bought the H120 because of him. Great Integrated Amplifier. Not Cheap but it sounds really good.
Very good
An honest man is hard to find. You do a good job. If you are not truthful it will eventually catch up with you.
Mr. Pete----------->
aging hippie
You're awright, in it for right reasons. Hifi people, in my experience, are genuine, decent, and passionate in a niche that we want to keep alive. Here's to 1mill subs (and I know, not the point). Steve not going to live forever (Joke)
I trusted your review of the Kinki P7 and B7. So much so that I bought them.
Whilst I appreciate that buying unheard, consumer direct products is rolling the dice rather, that may be a decision I live to regret.
I have the amps installed and have been listening to them now for well over 5 weeks. They do not live up to my expectations. I strongly suspect there is an issue with the P7 which is not allowing the system to perform to it’s full potential. I’m currently liaising with Kin at Kinki and Alvin at Vinshine and I’m hopeful of a positive outcome. I’ll keep you updated.
Interesting. Are you satisfied with the outcome??
@@carlitomelon4610 it is A work in progress! I seriously believe there is an issue with the P7, which is not allowing the system to perform to it’s full potential. Negotiations with Vinshine and Kinki via email and time zone differential is, slow. Vinshine have very kindly forwarded to me an alternative pre-amp they believe will better suit my listening preference. It has just arrived. Unfortunately, it will not switch on. So, it’s back to the emails and negotiations table. I’ll endeavour to keep you updated. I still have every confidence in Vinshine andKinki!
@@howardskeivys4184
Ouch 🤕
You're obviously a very patient guy!
Yes, keep us updated. Good thing there's a place to publish your experience with this company.
Actually, it was either you Jay or Sean (or Darko) that talked about Hegel... And i followed your advice and was very happy with the decision.
Many top RUclipsrs burn out. Gotta pace yourself.
Miyazaki! : D
Thats why i am saying no matter how good your system sounds after certain time does not matter.That is why it is better to buy some decent equipment and stop thinking about super expensive stuff.
Yall get the free stuff, We don't. We support you all, we should get the products
Stopped buying the UK mags years ago as we all know they get brown envelopes from the HiFi companies. I make MY OWN up on what sounds good or not. We all have different ears anyway.
ooops ..... I make my own MIND up .....etc.
2017 was the year , the West face stiff competition from the East . All dynamics were adjusted. Equilibrium of powers shifted. Letting monsters out of cupboard is easy, don't let them in again is the difficult part.😁😁😁
What’s your opinion in AirPod Max
Thanks for grounding anybody that thinks these reviewers on you tube reviewing gear are making big $$. Thanks for the reminder of how small and nitch this hobby is when somebody posting random cat videos can get more audience and subscribers ! I Wondering if a day will ever come when bigger manufavters will start noticing you tube reviews. Not holding my breath with the small numbers of subscribers on some of these channels !
You Are now easy to understand, your english has become better.
yasss..keep the product..lol
The only proof i want to trust you is the number of bad reviews that the big names of hi-fi will get from you.
Hmmmm I wonder who is trying to keep up a persona...... Z reviews
Different trolls different styles, duhhhhhh....
Wish we could hang out and listen to those beautiful DALIs sitting behind you
Jay, there is absolutely nothing wrong by charging money for making a review and recomending a product. You are helping people and I highly suggest you make afiliate links in all your videos. There is nothin unethical about it if people chose to buy your reviewed product and as a way of appreciation do it via the link. Same way you ask people to subscribe you should suggest buying them via the links. There is nothing unethical about it.
Being transparent is key but being a paid reviewer delegitimizes whatever you say- you’re just a marketer at that point. Not an objective reviewer- hence why magazines tout the editorial wall between them and advertisers
@@hectorbonilla9433 who said about not being objective. but if Jay says that he sees that product sales go up after his positive review.... well that kind of sucks unless you make no money of it.
I think the whole audiophile group is nothing but a scam,whatever sounds good to you is good enough,though they will say oh no you need to buy this or that for your system to make it good
Yeah preference vs technical performance, needs to be explained and differentiated more, in the hobby. In the end, each of us want to get, what we individually each prioritize, which isn't always the same things (we all don't always prioritize the same things the same way). Seems obvious, but isn't obviously talked about in the right ways, IMHO.
Most viewers already know all this stuff and can see through the reviewers/influencers. Can we get back to talking about equipment?
sure. Just released a review on soundstage. here is the playlist ruclips.net/p/PLPOzvlhtSqn5xdc__ftuSt4Rxy_wm5Af0
John, he's made a video everyday this week...on equipment! One commentary video on process every once in a while makes things much more personable between viewers and NBT. Your comment, patronizing and out of touch.
@@crh4878 You have misread my post Carlton. First, I have much respect and high hopes for Jay and like his reviews despite his few years of experience. That is just one reason I am a paying patron. My concern is that he doesn't go down the path of critiquing other reviewers as that would be an indication of superiority and is non-productive. My post is prompted partly from listening to a ZF live stream yesterday and then Jay following with this similar albeit more polite video. Regardless of 'talent', the constant belittling of others, successful manufacturers, and overall sense of self superiority and over inflated ego is a real turn off. Jay doesn't need to follow the advice of others but just let his personality and reviews shine through.
@@johnberard330 I apologise for misreading. I have seen posts from other viewers on other hifi vids that seemingly try to project that they are the authority on what other viewers want to see, in effect undermining the artistry and knowledge base of the content maker.
@@crh4878 I could have worded my post better Carlton. For that I apologize. Believe me when I say I am no authority regarding Hifi. That is why I am here. But I do have many decades of running a company and know talent when I see it.
You see the house Z Reviews just bought? That man is killing it for playing with headphones all day.
Zeos is the best! :-)
Sorry, Jay. I like your videos. But your recent titles remind me of neuro linguisic programming. I preferred the way things used to be on your channel
Maybe some, but not all. Are you talking about yourself?
Make a kids RUclips channel...They make £$...
So we shouldn’t watch you anymore because you’re marketing scheme? XD
You talk about stuff that reviewers don't talk about even though you are a reviewer?! How is that even possible?!
Mind blown 🤯
😱 reviewer-ception