This was great, Steve! I'm seeing some other more common ones you didn't mention that you might start collecting for a "part 2" like: transients, warmth, texture, cool, bright, lush, neutral, holographic, decay, slam, punch, musical, sweet, bloom, body, coherence, euphonic, etched, involving, sibilance, veiled, weight.
Most of the terms in this video are referring to characteristics of sound systems. I think your ideas for a part 2 are used to describe specific sounds within music. If you want more explanation, and there is no part 2 video (I haven't checked) you may be able to find people explaining them in other places like communities of classical music fans. Also people who play a variety of instruments and alternatively audio engineers would likely know. Many audiophiles probably know because the concepts are closely related but many are more interested in the quality of audio playback than in the artistic value of the music they listen to. I am one such person. My critique of music is generally limited to "this music makes me feel emotions" but I like to be able to hear the music really well.
What I find myself doing lately, is purposely listening to recordings of certain genres of music, and more poorly engineered albums (CD's and vinyl), so that when I go back to much better recordings, (close mic jazz),, I am "blown away" by the sound quality of my system (McIntosh MA6900 all analog Integrated Amplifier/Macintosh MCD600 CD player/Martin Logan XT60 floor standing speakers/Thorens TD-190 turntable with a Sure M97x cartridge all through a Monster line conditioner (surge). I know it's all a bit psychological, but, I don't care. 😊
He forgot to mention ‘fleeced’ as in. ‘Man, did you really spend £5000 on that dac, it sounds the same as the one that I got free in this box of cereal’.
These terms say more about the listener than the equipment. They describe what the listener notices, or feels. Which is why measurements fail to predict the experience, most of the experience happens after the sound hits the ears.
It’d be such a great gift from you if you’d list a bunch of songs where details, dynamics, and so on are actually recorded in the songs!! So that we can clearly hear what you meant. Just in case, thanks in advance! Love this channel. You’ve earned a new subscriber!
Soundstage: I got some FR + woofer speakers and the soundstage was inside the span of the speakers and lacked forward and back depth (compared to what I did to the speakers later). I held a (detached) old whizzer cone just in front of one of my FR drivers and it just sounded better. Listening a foot from the driver, it had depth, transparency and the speaker just seemed to disappear. So I made two 2" diameter cardboard cones with a 1.5" hole in the center (cone is narrow depth). I came to that shape by experimenting with the cone's shape. Now I have the cones held 1" in front of the center of the 4" FR drivers with a bit of wire and some blue tack. As well as having all the good qualities I just mentioned, I noticed that now the soundstage goes beyond the width of the two speakers! Stoked. Try it if you have FR driver speakers. But I don't know how it would go with normal driver mounting. Mine have a gap between the driver and the speaker hole (that is bass vented as well). lol So my speakers are NOT normal and also they are semi dipole and maybe my front cones are so effective cos of my unique acoustic stuff. My plan is to build proper front cones and mounting onto the FR drivers. It's an open semi horn acoustic lens. I would never go without them. See my ch.
17:34 "Goosbump City" is what my semi dipole FR+woofer speaker are with float mounted FR drivers, new type of tiny foil whizzers and open semi horn acoustic lenses in front of the FR drivers. Different to any other speaker and I can "watch" Sada's mouth pinpointed in one spot between the speakers and I can "see" the band playing all around her. The music is also close and far away as well as side to side and I can "see" the room. Without any one of the things I mentioned about my speakers, it just won't be as good. Sada's voice is so subtly croaky and you can hear that so well (and that seems to pinpoint here mouth). See my ch.
Wow!! Now that was fascinating. You caused me to reflect on the definition of each word as related to my experiences. I will better appreciate your reviews now that I have a more tightly defined language. Secondly, you caused me to realize how well my system is doing. In each definition, my audio system is doing very well. A lot to be thankful for. For example, imaging & depth... My speakers are 4.5' from the rear wall. A floor to ceiling rough faced stone fireplace is behind & between the speakers acting as a rear diffuser. No sound comes from the speakers. The sound stage is a separate entity that has so much depth that it comes from behind the stone wall. Very distinctly 3D with great tone. Transparent. Spooky! Finally.. I know how to describe it!! Thanks Steve
The first time i heard a high quality system was in stereo shop where i live.They had wall to wall high end brands..i was enthralled.Standing in the middle of all this, all of a sudden unknown to me Lou Rawls was singing right behind me.Wow i coul not believe the high fidelity of this system.I knew i was already a Audiophile, but now i knew what i was looking for my future travels in searching for in a high quality system and recording.Thank you once again for another good presentation.
"wet" and "dry" as terms almost certainly came from the wet/dry knob on mixers that would yield a 100% "clean" or 100% "affected" signal (referring to reverb in this case)
First of all thank you so much, second sorry for my english :)...even with the limitation of language I have been able to clearly understand every single audiophyle term. It´s great hearing people like you that transmit pure love for music in such a clearly way, so once again, thank you very much Steve!! Before investing in any stuff I always see if you have reviewed it, and I really take into consideration your comment and, till now, it really works for me. So again THANK YOU!!! Best regards from Spain!!
Steve, fantastic job! All of the efforts by many audiophiles, to achieve much of the qualities to which you described, are at the mercy of the recording studios. When the AlexS' of the world make love to their parade of studio equalizers, mixers, compressors, etc, then each and every box diminishes (even kills) any chance of achieving the qualities you spoke of. Those engineers are children in adult bodies, vandalizing the hard work and efforts of the artists, by altering (mostly in a bad way) otherwise fantastic sounding master recordings, that are as close to real life as possible. By the way, one other audiophile word that was missing from your descriptions: "Wardrobe": An audiophile change that occurs shortly after @2:23" It is unclear if the "Wardrobe" effect is limited to waist high conditions, or if the effect is full bodied. ;-) Cheers!
My first experience of 'height'. I was listening to Dire Straits, seated in my usual listening position when the puppy came in so I bent down and forward to tickle her. The song changed and since my attention was elsewhere it startled me to feel Mark Konpfler was standing in front of me. In front, sure, centred, sure but standing? It definitely sounded above my position. Exactly like if a real standing person is talking to you when you're crouched down tying your shoelaces or tickling a puppy. The moment I noticed I shut my eyes, confirmed the illusion and still with eyes closed I slowly, slowly stood up. Mark's voice stayed put! He remained standing and as I rose his voice went from being above me to being in front of me. I was moving, he was not. It blew my mind.
You experienced your mind reprograming itself. Once you hear something you can't "unhear" it. Sometimes you have to close your eyes and concentrate (mostly clear your mind). All of a sudden something "pops". Your mind gets used to hearing things a certain way and filters everything else out.
Do you still hear that every time you play that track??? If you do you have been "reprogrammed". I had it happen at my father in law's house during a tv commercial. The audio just "popped" when I closed my eyes and cleared my mind. We had the tv hooked up to a SET tube amp and a pair of Klipsch Heresy speakers. Who needs surround sound?
@@stephenbrockway5899 not so much. But I'm a tinkerer, always messing with my speaker positions, subwoofer levels, moving this changing that. I've no doubt it was an illusion but it was entertaining while it lasted.
@@stephenbrockway5899 I get what you're putting down, but hearing something like a 5.1 mix of Dark Side of the Moon or The Downward Spiral... you realize surround definitely has something to offer music.
Something I love to hear that relates to the soundstage is not just that ability to reach out and touch or pinpoint each sound but also to hear the spaces, the silent spaces between the sounds. A bad pair of speakers always overlaps the sounds too much
I also think a huge amount of it comes from really good music production. When a producer is really good at sound placement then they leave the spaces too.
I recently subscribed to Mr. Guttenberg's channel. My system is old- a Denon A/V receiver, a Pioneer CD player, and.....(ducking) a pair of Bose 401's..(Part I and Part II) . Because I am surrounded by people who hate classical music, I do most of my listening through headsets ( Sennheiser 600 series) . I've been collecting classical CDs since the 80's... I've wanted to upgrade (in a great big way) so that I can finally listen to a system which can do justice to a work like Mahler's 8th symphony (Symphony of a Thousand) ....The trouble with audiophile sites is 1) They are mostly directed towards a different crowd-jazz, rock, etc. 2) a dizzying amount of information. ... though it's better to have too much than too little. Hard to know what to do...except leap right in ..
Thanks! I asked that question of you a while back and appreciate that you have covered those terms, now. Not that you answered me directly because it sounds like many others wanted to know also. Thanks again!
We need a Audiophile Dictionary and a Audiophile Thesaurus! We also need an "Audiophile Spotters Guide"! We also need "Nintey Nine Things You Wanted To Know About Audio, But Were Afraid To Ask". More interesting reading could include: "Does High Fidelity By Any Other Name Sound As Sweet?" Thanks for the videos and the audios!!!!!
Great job in explaining these terms. A couple of thoughts. It seems to me that if these qualities aren't in the recording, no system can create them. The quality of the recording is therefore paramount. I think of "Fast" is how well a speaker stops producing a sound, note etc. The speaker has to "hit the brakes" and get set for the next note. Very important especially in subwoofers. Again, great job as usual Steve.
Glad you mentioned HP Steve.One of the highlights of my life was reading my latest Absolute Sound back in the 80's. I use presence and dynamics mainly for describing a good system. No presence, may as well buy a Midi system.
A valuable public service. Thanks Steve. The one thing I learned was "wetness." Obviously the opposite of dry once you pointed it out, but I had never used the term. "Spaciousness" I used to call it, even though the syntax becomes awkward. Wetness is very important to me, as long as it is not overly artificially enhanced with reverb to become "soggy" (too wet).
Good to make sure we're all on the same page - thanks, Steve! My bugbear audiophile word is 'jitter'. I accept that it's real and that it can be measured, but so far nobody has been able to tell me what it actually sounds like to our ears.
I agree with all of your definitions and descriptions except for one. Analytical. From my perspective, analytical is not overly detailed as you described, but rather the opposite of emotionally engaging or musical. In other words, it’s technically accurate with regard to instrument placement, focus, but lacking realism. That type of presentation would lack emotional engagement. All listening is done in the brain, analyzing the positioning of each instrument from a far. In a musical presentation, your emotions take over, the listener gets drawn in to the music itself, forgets about specific instrument placement, and becomes one with the music. Toe tapping, head bobbing, hand tapping come into play when the listener is drawn into a more musical presentation. An engaging system for me would be the opposite of an analytical one. 😊
Steve, I may be incorrect, but what you described as Tone is what I would refer to as Timbre. What I have always understood Tone to be is the relationship of the intensity between sounds in different parts of the frequency range (lows, mids and highs, generally). When you adjust the Tone Controls on your equipment, you're not adding or removing 'brassiness' or 'woodiness' to the sound. That's Timbre.
This is the best. Just got back into two channel "audiophileish" listening after abandoning it probably 20 years ago. This informative video really helps. Some of the audiophile youtubers need to take a lesson from you.
Most important thing "just remember to enjoy yourself.....its the #1 thing to do, just love the time listening and enjoying your records, tapes, cd's, streaming online and love your equipment also.....the simplest boombox can really make your day....honest. You dont even nees fancy or expensive at all......and as time goes by you will notice how enjoyable it all really is. Its like having a good friend to talk too. I Find my stereos amd yes I have several.....all on the lower cost side and I just love all of them.....many are speakers and receivers from thrift stores or bargain buys that sound fantastic.....truly a labor of live. My sterio systems are great companions.....they keep me company
This is the one time that I’m glad my English is poor. I don’t understand many of these audiophile terms, just used my ears for past 40+ yrs, bought the best equipment within my budget and enjoy the music. Great explanation just hope this video doesn’t influences me to chase new gears all over again. I’m a poor man that loves good music. “wet/dry” sounds only occurred in my head when I visited brothels in my younger days. 🤭😂😂
After over 10 years of retirement and COVID isolation, I've finally come around to (re)discovering 'audio'. But NOT by going out, buying a system, 'listening' and going through upgrade cycles... No, what I've done is to build a speaker system.... I started off with a couple of small single driver (65mm, 2-1/2") ported boxes (mounted beside my laptop), then added cross-overs and blue-tacked tweeters on top. My 'main' is an open baffle setup which is great, because it gives me a great baseline sound in an easily modifiable setup. Currently, it's a mess. Each speaker has 2 baffles. The tweeter (28mm, 1-1/8") silk dome) is in the smaller baffle and clamped (yes... with a couple of clamps) onto the lower (main) baffle. The lower baffle has 3 driver holes in it. Only the bottom hole is filled with its designed for 160mm (6-1/2") woofer. The other 2 driver holes are more or less empty, except that one of them has a 140mm (5-1/4") mid-range balanced in it, with more blue-tack, and sticking out about 1 inch. On the floor, I've two 300mm (12") sub-woofers leaning against the front wall. Yes, its all a work in progress. BTW, this current arrangement has only 'just' happened (today)... and overall, it sounds very 'unrefined' (I think it might be a phasing issue). It previously had a 'properly' mounted 90mm (3-1/2") mid-range (in place of the 140mm (5-1/4") mid-range) and it sounded VERY good... excellent sound-staging, but the new mid-range is about 3dB louder (I think Steve would have described the previous mid-range as 'far') and the frequency response is, by my reckoning, more balanced and closer to a 'proper' Harman Curve. (SPLs are now T-89, M-84.5 (was 82.1) and W-86.1 (sub-woofer is 90.3 but on a separate, low-pass circuit)). (On paper, the Tweeter's SPL looks a bit high but goes with jazz, so I'll leave it for a bit. Alternatively I may might attenuate it with a couple of resistors in the cross-over circuit, like I did with my laptop setup. This is the nerdy sort of stuff I've picked up doing these builds.) Plan is to mount all the drivers properly onto one baffle, and put the sub-woofer into an Open H-frame. Hopefully I'll get back my precision sound stage and a great Harman Curve. After that? Maybe ribbon tweeters? We'll see. MY POINT IS that everything I'm doing is a 'work in progress'; And through that iterative process, of changing drivers, cross-overs and trying different combinations, over periods of time, I'm observing and experiencing vast changes to audio qualities that Steve is describing. *Short of going though frequent upgrade cycles, I think it provides a great audio education.* It's been very much a trial and error process that builds an understanding of design issues and audio 'qualities'. Behind all that is a more critical listening appreciation.
Hi Steve, I would like to ask you a favor. I don't usually write, on this occasion I found the description of your vocabulary fabulous. Many times when reading reviews, it is not always understood "exactly" what the reviewer wants to express, such as missing a glossary of terms. In this case I ask you if it is possible to create some files, even in MP3, but that they can demonstrate in some way, even if the meaning of the example is exaggerated, I know that for many it is not easy to define subtle things, that is why I would ask you to exaggerate the audio in comparison with something neutral as an example: Mono vs Stereo, depth vs flat, dry vs wet, boomy bass vs tied, fast vs slow, etc. This would help a lot to know the terms and have the experience. Thank you.
@@Robert-mr7xr Robert, you are correct in saying that Steve is doing well spending time making these videos for free and I appreciate it. It hasn't really crossed my mind to ask Steve to do the music files himself and put him to work 20 hours of his day. That has not been my intention. I start from the idea of the audiophile community, in which, as in previous occasions, Steve has very graciously shared with us uncompressed music files, without makeup from some record labels, as was the case with Chesky. And I started to think how great it could be to have audio files with those characteristics, so I would have no doubts. Robert, I'll tell you when watching this video it reminded me almost 20 years ago what the book I bought by Robert Harley, The Complete Guide to High-End Audio, was for me, there they already talked about that vocabulary, the same as in specialized magazines. In fact I would love to be able to help and if it were possible to use the files that they have given us and modify them with some audio editing software and be able to have such files (Audacity). That is if I would need Steve's help to correct me if I make a mistake.
Dear Steve, first of all thank you for the fantastic video. I think describing each of these terms by in a specific track/recordings would be great. Something like: In this recording the soundstage is laid out like this.... If you can hear them and spot the instruments your fine.. Etc etc.
Music after all is mostly about feeling it in the heart and our hearing SENSE, and your clarification of the meaning of your words made me think that you and I belong to the same ...philiac tribe after all of it. Mister , I liked what I heard, and your COMMON SENSE approach to the system and the speakers, and above all your recognition and your giving credit to Pierceson and the truth behind his 3D stage view of sound made me glad... I am also glad you like the clean sound as oppose to that hoody and muddy sound...after all cleanliness is next to Godliness ; but it's good for all to remember than nothing taken to the extremes is any good (other than perfect love, and that Only God is capable of) but that doesn't give US the right to compromise and take short cuts that will hurt and affect the system negatively. By the way, we all will feel much better if we learn how to enjoy the now, that present, like when we listen to some good music but always reminding ourselves to be thankful for ALL we got already, indeed... Again, I liked the meanings to your words, Mister. Hope to catch your next video...
Thank you for the glossary, really helpful. And I agree that Definition is hard to achieve. Bass guitars and bass drum on the same track can be tricky to follow and so provide a good test for tuning a system.
Fantastic! This was one of my favorite videos of your entire library! Even if you know what these terms mean - hearing you explain them was very helpful and educational. Thank you!
I agree with all the terms here although I have always used to word palpable in terms of bass whack. A punchy but not bloated low end. In any case, great job defining words that we audiophiles use in abundance.
Nice video Steve. One small point I take you up on. My small bookshelf speakers in my office system are designed to be close to the wall and the soundstage on Macy Gray, Stripped, a Chesky recording, is palpably three dimensional in soundstage. There is depth, even though they are close to the wall.
Great presentation Steve. Thank you. You have helped my clarify this terminology and it is helping me to better understand and learn more about our Hi Fi system.
Nice setup. I had an XLS 1002. I liked it but I returned it after 4 days. It was just before the corona thing hit the fan and I was worried about the ability to return it. I also liked Tubedepot's Tubecube7 ($179) better it had a more liquid midrange. It is the same amp as a Miniwatt N3 and a fun and cheap way to try out a tube amp. Couple of months later I bought a Crown D60. It is a nice classAB amp.
Welcome. I basically did a head to head comparison between the Tubecube7 and an XLS. The Tubecube7 won me on sound quality even though the XLS was 100x more powerful. Tubecube7 3.5watts per channel vs 350 watts per channel for the XLS with 4ohm speakers. Sad part of it all the XLS wasn't much louder. The only change was the power amp and I did set the XLS for a .775 volt input to help it out. It was just a suggestion if you wanted to try something different. I love Schiit I have 3 different dacs, a vali, a Jotunheim and a saga. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Klipsch speakers.
I always thought that tonality refers to the overall sound sig (ie. v-shaped, u-shaped), while timbre is the actual tone of the instruments. Both are related to each other certainly
DRY can also be a lack of textural character to the instruments. Like Steve said, “a lack of reverberant information” ...but can be spread to more than just ambient room reverberations and to each individual sound, as well.
Great explanations. I am so happy because I just recently got new speakers , Wilson Sashas and I'm going ya I'm hearing all of these wonderful things I've heard about and its such a thrill. I feel my journey of finding that sound is complete. Thanks .
Also psychoacoustics, such as you can get out of the Urbanfun YBF IEM's if you get a good seal. The Bladerunner 2049 soundtrack has sound that has texture, it comes in waves, when it drones. You also get a lot of fast detail out of Beryllium (solid or coated) diaphragms.
That was great. Attack, sustain, decay for next time. Stereophile on-line has a pretty solid glossary (and reverse glossary) of these terms and hundreds of others. Nice job, Steve. Thanks.
I feel like "fast" results in how well a speaker produces silence in all the places it's tasked to. It's like how well a projector produces the color black. Black gives everything on your screen contrast. Silence does the same thing and "fast" is the characteristic which allows your speaker to do it with precision. I also hear people use the word tight for the same phenomenon.
Most systems are distorted. But not many notice it. Because you have to cross a reality where you can find a better standard of sound and that is pretty hard. Only once that is done, do you notice a lot of things happening in the music. I listened for many years to things I considered to be the best. Later I found out that, that was just good gear with a lot of distortion. Distortion can sound pretty amazing, only until you then hear the really good gear, suddenly you can then access a lot more information without it bleeding you ears.
Been reading your reviews for years was an avid reader of Stereo Review, Audio and sometimes Stereophile. Always enjoy your reviews and videos and others on RUclips. Keep it up
@@TheJosephhomere13 'Musicality' is a term Steve uses a lot, but somehow I'm not sure about what he means by that. I wish someone explained this with other, perhaps more 'technical' terms.
Most of those terms are words used by audio salesmen/women to pitch their product. Not all, but most. :-) I can describe audio gear using two simple phases; "It sounds good" or "it sounds like garbage." :-) "Dry" means the signal is not processed. "Wet" means it is processed. If there is reverb, delay, chorus, flanging etc. on the track, it's "wet." If not, it's "dry." ;-)
May I contribute more words?: Punch - as in punchy and fast bass; the opposite of muddy bass. For example, I find my Sunfire 10” (HRS10) sub to be punchy (which I like). I found my Velodyne 12” (DD12) to be sloppy and muddy. The B&W 804 has punchy bass. Tight - another way of saying punch. Same but different. Nuance - a stronger word for detail; found in higher end systems - little details that you never heard before in prior systems; Edgy/bright - for example some people find Soundsmith cartridges to be edgy. Ditto for older Krell integrated. Bright - in the upper range; treble in B&W diamond speakers can be too bright. Some solid state can be edgy and too bright. Tubes are generally warm. Edgy/bright is the opposite of warm. If a system is too edgy or bright it can lead to listening fatigue, which is another term in inself. Listening fatigue - I’ve heard enough for this session. I’m going to bed. These are some of my terms and they seem pretty self explanatory when I use them with audiophiles. edit: this post edited for detail.
Nice to hear about al those words and what they mean in the audio world, it could make you feel all warm and fuzzy but at the same time it all appears to be quite woolly ;)
Working on the assumption that all reviewers are audiophiles, give this list to every reviewer you know and ask them to define them. I bet you get several different definitions for each one.
Jaycar (house) woofers have great bass note definition. I'm not saying they are the best woofers and not saying the tone is perfect but that was the first thing I noticed about them (hearing every note). The 10" ones are their best and the kick drum is awesome and so, so separate to the bass guitar.
Excellent tutorial Steve. Now I understand why Mrs. Audiophiliac can say she is not an Audiophile by your definition. There is a lot of wiggle room in your definition of an audiophile.
"Clean" used to mean clinical and bereft of warmth. When CD arrived. "Definition" should be attached to hi-res audio, like video is high-definition. =Detail I've never heard the term "Dark" used for describing audio. =Restrained Dynamics is perhaps the most elusive in modern Pop music, which has lead to the loudness wars. Trying to get bass by cranking up the volume. Maybe follow up videos should go into remedies for some of the terms you've listed.
Thanks for clarifying audiophile, I get tired of hearing that you have to spend lots of money to be one. I love my system and care how it sounds and usually listen by myself, and it cost less than a $1000. We all aspire to great sound but everybody's ears are different.
Every piece in my system qualifies as being "analytical". Sometimes, it's too revealing - especially with surface noise of vinyl - but it's a good thing most of the time, IMO.
Unrelated question. Just got the smsl ad18 for in my bedroom, I love it, but when I went to sleep I could hear a coilwhine noise coming from the power brick. Anyone knows how to get rid of it/replace the power brick? What specs does the replacement power brick need to have?
Steve: what confuses me are the meanings of speaker sensitivity versus impedance. I get sensitivity which to mean means that a speaker needs more or less amp power based upon sensitivity-- so that a high sensitivity speaker needs less power while a low sensitivity speaker needs more. But I don't get impedance. What is impedance all about? It is very confusing. Can a speaker be high sensitivity and high impedance? Or what does it mean when a speaker has a sensitivity of say 88 db; but an impedance of 4 ohms? Or any other combo of sensitivity and impedance. UGH. Thanks.
Thanks, helpful video! I recently got the Schiit Modius DAC and am very happy with it, however, part of me wonders if there could be more soundstage depth, but I don't even know...lol
Fast is more attributed to when CD 💿 Players are being reviewed. As an example I still own a boxed immaculate up a Arcam CD93T when Arcam brought out its replacement Arcam 192 many years ago now on what hifi or Hifi news here in UK 🇬🇧 reviews it stated that one of the improvements was the 192 timing was better than the 93T and so gave a faster feel well along those lines. 😊👍Steve absolutely first rate video as always yes we certainly dig it all the best from London UK 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧
Steve is very clever with the word Audiophile which in his definition gives him the maximum SAM (Service Available Market) for his channel and in the past for the gear he sold. Many self proclaimed Audiophiles would like to see a higher threshold for that title. They are of the exclusive (elite) club and that is why the more lets say populist HiFi enthusiast (including my self) sometimes feels uneasy with the this badge "'Audiophile". Prompted by Steve and other RUclipsrs like AnaDialog I have thought about this and I now have my own definition of what an Audiophile is: "An Audiophile is someone who enjoys music but has a high sensitivity to listening fatigue" I like my definition because I believe it is the only one that explains why some musicians are not Audiophiles, they only fulfil the first requirement of enjoying music.
Man pretty cool to hear big ole lady NY happening around you👍👍, I may never get there.., but I connect on hearing that🙏 clever for everything that you and your wonderful Lady bring🙏
Hi , I've heard the word muddy ,one time to describe a particular sound . Does that mean the sound is dirty , how can a sound be muddy ...please explain
Cheers Steve, I realise from this vid.. that I don’t have the experience of listening to music.., in NY clubs.... I’m going on stadiums n car stereo from 1980s 😂, in someways hearing my music for the first time...
Hi Steve, Great video. What do you make of the Linn TuneDem musicality definition versus PRAT? I'm not expecting orchestras or bands using TuneDem to recruit new musicians any time soon.
Steve, love you man, you can sell it. With this format however you can actually play music on any system as let us hear what is going on. Then the words would make sense don't ya think?
For me an audiophile is a person who loves audio equipment and experiencing the differences between them. Of course sound quality is part of it, but since even bargain speakers are producing very good sound theses days, it's almost secondary.
One of the words that you use quite a bit didn't make it on to the list: Balls! I know that was one of the words you used to describe the Elac DBR62 Debut 2.0 Reference speakers, which led to my purchase of a demo pair I found online. Pretty happy with them but they made me realize how much my room sucked. Much moving of stuff followed.
Psychological imaging: Listen to a video clip of the musicians playing. Amazing sound (subjectively) and does what thousands of dollars does for an upgrade (costing nothing).
This was great, Steve! I'm seeing some other more common ones you didn't mention that you might start collecting for a "part 2" like: transients, warmth, texture, cool, bright, lush, neutral, holographic, decay, slam, punch, musical, sweet, bloom, body, coherence, euphonic, etched, involving, sibilance, veiled, weight.
Please add timbre to that list.
Most of the terms in this video are referring to characteristics of sound systems. I think your ideas for a part 2 are used to describe specific sounds within music. If you want more explanation, and there is no part 2 video (I haven't checked) you may be able to find people explaining them in other places like communities of classical music fans. Also people who play a variety of instruments and alternatively audio engineers would likely know. Many audiophiles probably know because the concepts are closely related but many are more interested in the quality of audio playback than in the artistic value of the music they listen to. I am one such person. My critique of music is generally limited to "this music makes me feel emotions" but I like to be able to hear the music really well.
What I find myself doing lately, is purposely listening to recordings of certain genres of music, and more poorly engineered albums (CD's and vinyl), so that when I go back to much better recordings, (close mic jazz),, I am "blown away" by the sound quality of my system (McIntosh MA6900 all analog Integrated Amplifier/Macintosh MCD600 CD player/Martin Logan XT60 floor standing speakers/Thorens TD-190 turntable with a Sure M97x cartridge all through a Monster line conditioner (surge). I know it's all a bit psychological, but, I don't care. 😊
He forgot to mention ‘fleeced’ as in. ‘Man, did you really spend £5000 on that dac, it sounds the same as the one that I got free in this box of cereal’.
These terms say more about the listener than the equipment. They describe what the listener notices, or feels. Which is why measurements fail to predict the experience, most of the experience happens after the sound hits the ears.
Clean is something I need to do more.
It’d be such a great gift from you if you’d list a bunch of songs where details, dynamics, and so on are actually recorded in the songs!!
So that we can clearly hear what you meant.
Just in case, thanks in advance!
Love this channel. You’ve earned a new subscriber!
I’d love that. Good idea for a Patreon perk.
Yes, please :)
Soundstage:
I got some FR + woofer speakers and the soundstage was inside the span of the speakers and lacked forward and back depth (compared to what I did to the speakers later). I held a (detached) old whizzer cone just in front of one of my FR drivers and it just sounded better. Listening a foot from the driver, it had depth, transparency and the speaker just seemed to disappear. So I made two 2" diameter cardboard cones with a 1.5" hole in the center (cone is narrow depth). I came to that shape by experimenting with the cone's shape. Now I have the cones held 1" in front of the center of the 4" FR drivers with a bit of wire and some blue tack. As well as having all the good qualities I just mentioned, I noticed that now the soundstage goes beyond the width of the two speakers! Stoked. Try it if you have FR driver speakers. But I don't know how it would go with normal driver mounting. Mine have a gap between the driver and the speaker hole (that is bass vented as well). lol So my speakers are NOT normal and also they are semi dipole and maybe my front cones are so effective cos of my unique acoustic stuff. My plan is to build proper front cones and mounting onto the FR drivers. It's an open semi horn acoustic lens. I would never go without them. See my ch.
17:34 "Goosbump City" is what my semi dipole FR+woofer speaker are with float mounted FR drivers, new type of tiny foil whizzers and open semi horn acoustic lenses in front of the FR drivers. Different to any other speaker and I can "watch" Sada's mouth pinpointed in one spot between the speakers and I can "see" the band playing all around her. The music is also close and far away as well as side to side and I can "see" the room. Without any one of the things I mentioned about my speakers, it just won't be as good. Sada's voice is so subtly croaky and you can hear that so well (and that seems to pinpoint here mouth). See my ch.
Wow!! Now that was fascinating. You caused me to reflect on the definition of each word as related to my experiences. I will better appreciate your reviews now that I have a more tightly defined language.
Secondly, you caused me to realize how well my system is doing. In each definition, my audio system is doing very well. A lot to be thankful for. For example, imaging & depth... My speakers are 4.5' from the rear wall. A floor to ceiling rough faced stone fireplace is behind & between the speakers acting as a rear diffuser. No sound comes from the speakers. The sound stage is a separate entity that has so much depth that it comes from behind the stone wall. Very distinctly 3D with great tone. Transparent. Spooky! Finally.. I know how to describe it!! Thanks Steve
The first time i heard a high quality system was in stereo shop where i live.They had wall to wall high end brands..i was enthralled.Standing in the middle of all this, all of a sudden unknown to me Lou Rawls was singing right behind me.Wow i coul not believe the high fidelity of this system.I knew i was already a Audiophile, but now i knew what i was looking for my future travels in searching for in a high quality system and recording.Thank you once again for another good presentation.
"wet" and "dry" as terms almost certainly came from the wet/dry knob on mixers that would yield a 100% "clean" or 100% "affected" signal (referring to reverb in this case)
You have the strongest skill in explaining things of all the other 14 people I follow. Some have a lot to say but are sadly unlistenable.
First of all thank you so much, second sorry for my english :)...even with the limitation of language I have been able to clearly understand every single audiophyle term. It´s great hearing people like you that transmit pure love for music in such a clearly way, so once again, thank you very much Steve!! Before investing in any stuff I always see if you have reviewed it, and I really take into consideration your comment and, till now, it really works for me. So again THANK YOU!!! Best regards from Spain!!
Steve, fantastic job!
All of the efforts by many audiophiles, to achieve much of the qualities to which you described, are at the mercy of the recording studios.
When the AlexS' of the world make love to their parade of studio equalizers, mixers, compressors, etc, then each and every box diminishes (even kills) any chance of achieving the qualities you spoke of. Those engineers are children in adult bodies, vandalizing the hard work and efforts of the artists, by altering (mostly in a bad way) otherwise fantastic sounding master recordings, that are as close to real life as possible.
By the way, one other audiophile word that was missing from your descriptions:
"Wardrobe":
An audiophile change that occurs shortly after @2:23" It is unclear if the "Wardrobe" effect is limited to waist high conditions, or if the effect is full bodied. ;-)
Cheers!
My first experience of 'height'. I was listening to Dire Straits, seated in my usual listening position when the puppy came in so I bent down and forward to tickle her. The song changed and since my attention was elsewhere it startled me to feel Mark Konpfler was standing in front of me. In front, sure, centred, sure but standing? It definitely sounded above my position. Exactly like if a real standing person is talking to you when you're crouched down tying your shoelaces or tickling a puppy.
The moment I noticed I shut my eyes, confirmed the illusion and still with eyes closed I slowly, slowly stood up. Mark's voice stayed put! He remained standing and as I rose his voice went from being above me to being in front of me. I was moving, he was not. It blew my mind.
You experienced your mind reprograming itself. Once you hear something you can't "unhear" it. Sometimes you have to close your eyes and concentrate (mostly clear your mind). All of a sudden something "pops". Your mind gets used to hearing things a certain way and filters everything else out.
@@stephenbrockway5899 I'm sure you're right. It was a trip though!
Do you still hear that every time you play that track??? If you do you have been "reprogrammed". I had it happen at my father in law's house during a tv commercial. The audio just "popped" when I closed my eyes and cleared my mind. We had the tv hooked up to a SET tube amp and a pair of Klipsch Heresy speakers. Who needs surround sound?
@@stephenbrockway5899 not so much. But I'm a tinkerer, always messing with my speaker positions, subwoofer levels, moving this changing that. I've no doubt it was an illusion but it was entertaining while it lasted.
@@stephenbrockway5899 I get what you're putting down, but hearing something like a 5.1 mix of Dark Side of the Moon or The Downward Spiral... you realize surround definitely has something to offer music.
Something I love to hear that relates to the soundstage is not just that ability to reach out and touch or pinpoint each sound but also to hear the spaces, the silent spaces between the sounds. A bad pair of speakers always overlaps the sounds too much
I also think a huge amount of it comes from really good music production. When a producer is really good at sound placement then they leave the spaces too.
I recently subscribed to Mr. Guttenberg's channel. My system is old- a Denon A/V receiver, a Pioneer CD player, and.....(ducking) a pair of Bose 401's..(Part I and Part II) . Because I am surrounded by people who hate classical music, I do most of my listening through headsets ( Sennheiser 600 series) . I've been collecting classical CDs since the 80's... I've wanted to upgrade (in a great big way) so that I can finally listen to a system which can do justice to a work like Mahler's 8th symphony (Symphony of a Thousand) ....The trouble with audiophile sites is 1) They are mostly directed towards a different crowd-jazz, rock, etc. 2) a dizzying amount of information. ... though it's better to have too much than too little. Hard to know what to do...except leap right in ..
Thanks! I asked that question of you a while back and appreciate that you have covered those terms, now. Not that you answered me directly because it sounds like many others wanted to know also. Thanks again!
We need a Audiophile Dictionary and a Audiophile Thesaurus! We also need an "Audiophile Spotters Guide"! We also need "Nintey Nine Things You Wanted To Know About Audio, But Were Afraid To Ask". More interesting reading could include: "Does High Fidelity By Any Other Name Sound As Sweet?" Thanks for the videos and the audios!!!!!
I recommend the book 'The Complete Guide to High End Audio' by Robert Harley.
Look for the latest edition. It covers a lot of ground. : )
Dear Steve, what a great channel! Many compliments from an audiophile for over 50 years from Italy.
Maybe add "passed out" happens when too many glasses of wine are consumed while listening to your stereo system : )
How about... high? Lol
Zackary Colley I rather smoke weed and listen than drink. Alcohol is poison.
Matthew Charland as would i
@@matthewcharland2600 so is water if you drink too much of it.
hifi noob 2018 View it as you’d like, alcohol has done nothing but muddy the listening experience for me personally.
Great job in explaining these terms. A couple of thoughts. It seems to me that if these qualities aren't in the recording, no system can create them. The quality of the recording is therefore paramount. I think of "Fast" is how well a speaker stops producing a sound, note etc. The speaker has to "hit the brakes" and get set for the next note. Very important especially in subwoofers. Again, great job as usual Steve.
Glad you mentioned HP Steve.One of the highlights of my life was reading my latest Absolute Sound back in the 80's. I use presence and dynamics mainly for describing a good system. No presence, may as well buy a Midi system.
A valuable public service. Thanks Steve. The one thing I learned was "wetness." Obviously the opposite of dry once you pointed it out, but I had never used the term. "Spaciousness" I used to call it, even though the syntax becomes awkward. Wetness is very important to me, as long as it is not overly artificially enhanced with reverb to become "soggy" (too wet).
I love a nice wet guitar
Good to make sure we're all on the same page - thanks, Steve!
My bugbear audiophile word is 'jitter'. I accept that it's real and that it can be measured, but so far nobody has been able to tell me what it actually sounds like to our ears.
I agree with all of your definitions and descriptions except for one. Analytical. From my perspective, analytical is not overly detailed as you described, but rather the opposite of emotionally engaging or musical. In other words, it’s technically accurate with regard to instrument placement, focus, but lacking realism. That type of presentation would lack emotional engagement. All listening is done in the brain, analyzing the positioning of each instrument from a far.
In a musical presentation, your emotions take over, the listener gets drawn in to the music itself, forgets about specific instrument placement, and becomes one with the music. Toe tapping, head bobbing, hand tapping come into play when the listener is drawn into a more musical presentation.
An engaging system for me would be the opposite of an analytical one. 😊
Steve, thanks for this. Super helpful, and incredibly well put together. One of your best yet! Thanks again.
Steve, I may be incorrect, but what you described as Tone is what I would refer to as Timbre.
What I have always understood Tone to be is the relationship of the intensity between sounds in different parts of the frequency range (lows, mids and highs, generally).
When you adjust the Tone Controls on your equipment, you're not adding or removing 'brassiness' or 'woodiness' to the sound. That's Timbre.
This is the best. Just got back into two channel "audiophileish" listening after abandoning it probably 20 years ago. This informative video really helps. Some of the audiophile youtubers need to take a lesson from you.
Most important thing "just remember to enjoy yourself.....its the #1 thing to do, just love the time listening and enjoying your records, tapes, cd's, streaming online and love your equipment also.....the simplest boombox can really make your day....honest. You dont even nees fancy or expensive at all......and as time goes by you will notice how enjoyable it all really is.
Its like having a good friend to talk too. I Find my stereos amd yes I have several.....all on the lower cost side and I just love all of them.....many are speakers and receivers from thrift stores or bargain buys that sound fantastic.....truly a labor of live.
My sterio systems are great companions.....they keep me company
This is the one time that I’m glad my English is poor. I don’t understand many of these audiophile terms, just used my ears for past 40+ yrs, bought the best equipment within my budget and enjoy the music. Great explanation just hope this video doesn’t influences me to chase new gears all over again. I’m a poor man that loves good music.
“wet/dry” sounds only occurred in my head when I visited brothels in my younger days. 🤭😂😂
After over 10 years of retirement and COVID isolation, I've finally come around to (re)discovering 'audio'. But NOT by going out, buying a system, 'listening' and going through upgrade cycles... No, what I've done is to build a speaker system....
I started off with a couple of small single driver (65mm, 2-1/2") ported boxes (mounted beside my laptop), then added cross-overs and blue-tacked tweeters on top.
My 'main' is an open baffle setup which is great, because it gives me a great baseline sound in an easily modifiable setup.
Currently, it's a mess.
Each speaker has 2 baffles. The tweeter (28mm, 1-1/8") silk dome) is in the smaller baffle and clamped (yes... with a couple of clamps) onto the lower (main) baffle. The lower baffle has 3 driver holes in it. Only the bottom hole is filled with its designed for 160mm (6-1/2") woofer. The other 2 driver holes are more or less empty, except that one of them has a 140mm (5-1/4") mid-range balanced in it, with more blue-tack, and sticking out about 1 inch.
On the floor, I've two 300mm (12") sub-woofers leaning against the front wall.
Yes, its all a work in progress.
BTW, this current arrangement has only 'just' happened (today)... and overall, it sounds very 'unrefined' (I think it might be a phasing issue). It previously had a 'properly' mounted 90mm (3-1/2") mid-range (in place of the 140mm (5-1/4") mid-range) and it sounded VERY good... excellent sound-staging, but the new mid-range is about 3dB louder (I think Steve would have described the previous mid-range as 'far') and the frequency response is, by my reckoning, more balanced and closer to a 'proper' Harman Curve. (SPLs are now T-89, M-84.5 (was 82.1) and W-86.1 (sub-woofer is 90.3 but on a separate, low-pass circuit)).
(On paper, the Tweeter's SPL looks a bit high but goes with jazz, so I'll leave it for a bit. Alternatively I may might attenuate it with a couple of resistors in the cross-over circuit, like I did with my laptop setup. This is the nerdy sort of stuff I've picked up doing these builds.)
Plan is to mount all the drivers properly onto one baffle, and put the sub-woofer into an Open H-frame. Hopefully I'll get back my precision sound stage and a great Harman Curve. After that? Maybe ribbon tweeters? We'll see.
MY POINT IS that everything I'm doing is a 'work in progress'; And through that iterative process, of changing drivers, cross-overs and trying different combinations, over periods of time, I'm observing and experiencing vast changes to audio qualities that Steve is describing.
*Short of going though frequent upgrade cycles, I think it provides a great audio education.*
It's been very much a trial and error process that builds an understanding of design issues and audio 'qualities'.
Behind all that is a more critical listening appreciation.
Hi Steve,
I would like to ask you a favor. I don't usually write, on this occasion I found the description of your vocabulary fabulous. Many times when reading reviews, it is not always understood "exactly" what the reviewer wants to express, such as missing a glossary of terms.
In this case I ask you if it is possible to create some files, even in MP3, but that they can demonstrate in some way, even if the meaning of the example is exaggerated, I know that for many it is not easy to define subtle things, that is why I would ask you to exaggerate the audio in comparison with something neutral as an example: Mono vs Stereo, depth vs flat, dry vs wet, boomy bass vs tied, fast vs slow, etc.
This would help a lot to know the terms and have the experience.
Thank you.
Fernando. Isn’t it great that Steve makes these videos for free? To ask him to do an addition 20 hours of labor seems a bit presumptuous.
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Robert, you are correct in saying that Steve is doing well spending time making these videos for free and I appreciate it.
It hasn't really crossed my mind to ask Steve to do the music files himself and put him to work 20 hours of his day. That has not been my intention.
I start from the idea of the audiophile community, in which, as in previous occasions, Steve has very graciously shared with us uncompressed music files, without makeup from some record labels, as was the case with Chesky.
And I started to think how great it could be to have audio files with those characteristics, so I would have no doubts.
Robert, I'll tell you when watching this video it reminded me almost 20 years ago what the book I bought by Robert Harley, The Complete Guide to High-End Audio, was for me, there they already talked about that vocabulary, the same as in specialized magazines.
In fact I would love to be able to help and if it were possible to use the files that they have given us and modify them with some audio editing software and be able to have such files (Audacity). That is if I would need Steve's help to correct me if I make a mistake.
Dear Steve, first of all thank you for the fantastic video.
I think describing each of these terms by in a specific track/recordings would be great.
Something like: In this recording the soundstage is laid out like this.... If you can hear them and spot the instruments your fine.. Etc etc.
Music after all is mostly about feeling it in the heart and our hearing SENSE, and your clarification of the meaning of your words made me think that you and I belong to the same ...philiac tribe after all of it. Mister , I liked what I heard, and your COMMON SENSE approach to the system and the speakers, and above all your recognition and your giving credit to Pierceson and the truth behind his 3D stage view of sound made me glad... I am also glad you like the clean sound as oppose to that hoody and muddy sound...after all cleanliness is next to Godliness ; but it's good for all to remember than nothing taken to the extremes is any good (other than perfect love, and that Only God is capable of) but that doesn't give US the right to compromise and take short cuts that will hurt and affect the system negatively. By the way, we all will feel much better if we learn how to enjoy the now, that present, like when we listen to some good music but always reminding ourselves to be thankful for ALL we got already, indeed... Again, I liked the meanings to your words, Mister. Hope to catch your next video...
Thank you for the glossary, really helpful. And I agree that Definition is hard to achieve. Bass guitars and bass drum on the same track can be tricky to follow and so provide a good test for tuning a system.
Fantastic! This was one of my favorite videos of your entire library! Even if you know what these terms mean - hearing you explain them was very helpful and educational. Thank you!
What a service to the community! And a nice mood. I already knew these, but I still learnt something.
I agree with all the terms here although I have always used to word palpable in terms of bass whack. A punchy but not bloated low end. In any case, great job defining words that we audiophiles use in abundance.
Nice video Steve. One small point I take you up on. My small bookshelf speakers in my office system are designed to be close to the wall and the soundstage on Macy Gray, Stripped, a Chesky recording, is palpably three dimensional in soundstage. There is depth, even though they are close to the wall.
Who the heck would dislike this video?
So nicely explained.
Thank you sir.
Deaf people.
Great video! Thanks. I hear/read the words "bright" and "warm" quite a bit.
Great presentation Steve. Thank you. You have helped my clarify this terminology and it is helping me to better understand and learn more about our Hi Fi system.
I’m a new audiophile and I’ve been blown away hearing depth and a wide soundstage (klipsch 600M into crown XLS, Schiit preamp and DAC). Amazing.
Nice setup. I had an XLS 1002. I liked it but I returned it after 4 days. It was just before the corona thing hit the fan and I was worried about the ability to return it. I also liked Tubedepot's Tubecube7 ($179) better it had a more liquid midrange. It is the same amp as a Miniwatt N3 and a fun and cheap way to try out a tube amp. Couple of months later I bought a Crown D60. It is a nice classAB amp.
stephen brockway I’m new so maybe I’m easy to please but it sounds amazing
Welcome. I basically did a head to head comparison between the Tubecube7 and an XLS. The Tubecube7 won me on sound quality even though the XLS was 100x more powerful. Tubecube7 3.5watts per channel vs 350 watts per channel for the XLS with 4ohm speakers. Sad part of it all the XLS wasn't much louder. The only change was the power amp and I did set the XLS for a .775 volt input to help it out. It was just a suggestion if you wanted to try something different. I love Schiit I have 3 different dacs, a vali, a Jotunheim and a saga. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Klipsch speakers.
I always thought that tonality refers to the overall sound sig (ie. v-shaped, u-shaped), while timbre is the actual tone of the instruments. Both are related to each other certainly
Timbre refers to the harmonic quality of a sound, such as amount and kind of overtones
Great video- very helpful to understand the tools.
Please consider including examples of equipment and/ or speakers for each the words/tools.
Thanks
DRY can also be a lack of textural character to the instruments. Like Steve said, “a lack of reverberant information” ...but can be spread to more than just ambient room reverberations and to each individual sound, as well.
Great explanations. I am so happy because I just recently got new speakers , Wilson Sashas and I'm going ya I'm hearing all of these wonderful things I've heard about and its such a thrill. I feel my journey of finding that sound is complete. Thanks .
Also psychoacoustics, such as you can get out of the Urbanfun YBF IEM's if you get a good seal. The Bladerunner 2049 soundtrack has sound that has texture, it comes in waves, when it drones.
You also get a lot of fast detail out of Beryllium (solid or coated) diaphragms.
new favorite audio youtube channel omg thank you for your time and energy
That was great. Attack, sustain, decay for next time. Stereophile on-line has a pretty solid glossary (and reverse glossary) of these terms and hundreds of others. Nice job, Steve. Thanks.
Great sound,nice sound and not so good sound is more than sufficient for me.
Steve thank you very much for unmudying the waters of terms. This was very helpful.
I feel like "fast" results in how well a speaker produces silence in all the places it's tasked to. It's like how well a projector produces the color black. Black gives everything on your screen contrast. Silence does the same thing and "fast" is the characteristic which allows your speaker to do it with precision. I also hear people use the word tight for the same phenomenon.
The way I see it, "speed" refers mostly to decay. Quicker decay results in a "faster/tighter" sound imo.
Most systems are distorted. But not many notice it. Because you have to cross a reality where you can find a better standard of sound and that is pretty hard. Only once that is done, do you notice a lot of things happening in the music. I listened for many years to things I considered to be the best. Later I found out that, that was just good gear with a lot of distortion. Distortion can sound pretty amazing, only until you then hear the really good gear, suddenly you can then access a lot more information without it bleeding you ears.
Been reading your reviews for years was an avid reader of Stereo Review, Audio and sometimes Stereophile. Always enjoy your reviews and videos and others on RUclips. Keep it up
Nice, thanks!
Steve you left out NAG very unpleasant sound when your trying to listen to your stereo.
I dornt think it coming from the speakers although.
Lol
Lol!!
Lol., glad I'm single then.
LMFAO
CHUCKLES, thank you.
How about "organic" and the infamous "musicality" ?
I still don’t understand that term. Someone please explain. Is it less “accurate” to make the music sound more pleasing?
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'Musicality' is a term Steve uses a lot, but somehow I'm not sure about what he means by that. I wish someone explained this with other, perhaps more 'technical' terms.
Most of those terms are words used by audio salesmen/women to pitch their product. Not all, but most. :-) I can describe audio gear using two simple phases; "It sounds good" or "it sounds like garbage." :-)
"Dry" means the signal is not processed. "Wet" means it is processed. If there is reverb, delay, chorus, flanging etc. on the track, it's "wet." If not, it's "dry." ;-)
May I contribute more words?:
Punch - as in punchy and fast bass; the opposite of muddy bass. For example, I find my Sunfire 10” (HRS10) sub to be punchy (which I like). I found my Velodyne 12” (DD12) to be sloppy and muddy. The B&W 804 has punchy bass.
Tight - another way of saying punch. Same but different.
Nuance - a stronger word for detail; found in higher end systems - little details that you never heard before in prior systems;
Edgy/bright - for example some people find Soundsmith cartridges to be edgy. Ditto for older Krell integrated. Bright - in the upper range; treble in B&W diamond speakers can be too bright. Some solid state can be edgy and too bright. Tubes are generally warm. Edgy/bright is the opposite of warm. If a system is too edgy or bright it can lead to listening fatigue, which is another term in inself.
Listening fatigue - I’ve heard enough for this session. I’m going to bed.
These are some of my terms and they seem pretty self explanatory when I use them with audiophiles.
edit: this post edited for detail.
Thanks Steve, I think I know them all, but it's fun to hear you describe them out loud. Cheers
To me being an audiophile is best savored late at night, after all the chores are done and everyone's asleep....
Add listening during spring and summer when it is comfortable enough to turn of your ac
Nice to hear about al those words and what they mean in the audio world, it could make you feel all warm and fuzzy but at the same time it all appears to be quite woolly ;)
Working on the assumption that all reviewers are audiophiles, give this list to every reviewer you know and ask them to define them. I bet you get several different definitions for each one.
Yep!
Sure you can! Ok I will watch now
Lol
Steve, great session on the audio speak, loved it. Your enthusiasm is infections. thanks
THANK YOU for this videos I’m new to the game and this really helps!!
Jaycar (house) woofers have great bass note definition. I'm not saying they are the best woofers and not saying the tone is perfect but that was the first thing I noticed about them (hearing every note). The 10" ones are their best and the kick drum is awesome and so, so separate to the bass guitar.
Excellent tutorial Steve.
Now I understand why Mrs. Audiophiliac can say she is not an Audiophile by your definition. There is a lot of wiggle room in your definition of an audiophile.
"Clean" used to mean clinical and bereft of warmth. When CD arrived.
"Definition" should be attached to hi-res audio, like video is high-definition. =Detail
I've never heard the term "Dark" used for describing audio. =Restrained
Dynamics is perhaps the most elusive in modern Pop music, which has lead to the loudness wars. Trying to get bass by cranking up the volume.
Maybe follow up videos should go into remedies for some of the terms you've listed.
Thanks Steve! Very informative video. Knew some of these terms but others I'd always hear mentioned - Now I know.
Excellent job Steve. So very helpful, Thanks!
Finally, now I can know what this all means. A great beginners guide!!
Thanks for clarifying audiophile, I get tired of hearing that you have to spend lots of money to be one. I love my system and care how it sounds and usually listen by myself, and it cost less than a $1000. We all aspire to great sound but everybody's ears are different.
You did a good introduction, it will help people better understand me, thanks.
When you can’t figure out why you like a speaker so much... it’s probably “ fast”
One of the best episodes, thank you steve! Very helpful
Every piece in my system qualifies as being "analytical".
Sometimes, it's too revealing - especially with surface noise of vinyl - but it's a good thing most of the time, IMO.
One of your best videos. Thank you very much.
Unrelated question. Just got the smsl ad18 for in my bedroom, I love it, but when I went to sleep I could hear a coilwhine noise coming from the power brick. Anyone knows how to get rid of it/replace the power brick? What specs does the replacement power brick need to have?
Steve: what confuses me are the meanings of speaker sensitivity versus impedance. I get sensitivity which to mean means that a speaker needs more or less amp power based upon sensitivity-- so that a high sensitivity speaker needs less power while a low sensitivity speaker needs more. But I don't get impedance. What is impedance all about? It is very confusing. Can a speaker be high sensitivity and high impedance? Or what does it mean when a speaker has a sensitivity of say 88 db; but an impedance of 4 ohms? Or any other combo of sensitivity and impedance. UGH. Thanks.
Thanks, helpful video! I recently got the Schiit Modius DAC and am very happy with it, however, part of me wonders if there could be more soundstage depth, but I don't even know...lol
Fast is more attributed to when CD 💿 Players are being reviewed. As an example I still own a boxed immaculate up a Arcam CD93T when Arcam brought out its replacement Arcam 192 many years ago now on what hifi or Hifi news here in UK 🇬🇧 reviews it stated that one of the improvements was the 192 timing was better than the 93T and so gave a faster feel well along those lines. 😊👍Steve absolutely first rate video as always yes we certainly dig it all the best from London UK 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧
Steve is very clever with the word Audiophile which in his definition gives him the maximum SAM (Service Available Market) for his channel and in the past for the gear he sold. Many self proclaimed Audiophiles would like to see a higher threshold for that title. They are of the exclusive (elite) club and that is why the more lets say populist HiFi enthusiast (including my self) sometimes feels uneasy with the this badge "'Audiophile".
Prompted by Steve and other RUclipsrs like AnaDialog I have thought about this and I now have my own definition of what an Audiophile is:
"An Audiophile is someone who enjoys music but has a high sensitivity to listening fatigue"
I like my definition because I believe it is the only one that explains why some musicians are not Audiophiles, they only fulfil the first requirement of enjoying music.
1. LOL
2. "in the past"? (Sorry, couldn't resist 😁)
@@richardsaila8073 2: Thru too.
Man pretty cool to hear big ole lady NY happening around you👍👍, I may never get there.., but I connect on hearing that🙏 clever for everything that you and your wonderful Lady bring🙏
Hi , I've heard the word muddy ,one time to describe a particular sound . Does that mean the sound is dirty , how can a sound be muddy ...please explain
Cheers Steve, I realise from this vid.. that I don’t have the experience of listening to music.., in NY clubs.... I’m going on stadiums n car stereo from 1980s 😂, in someways hearing my music for the first time...
Hi Steve,
Great video. What do you make of the Linn TuneDem musicality definition versus PRAT?
I'm not expecting orchestras or bands using TuneDem to recruit new musicians any time soon.
Steve, love you man, you can sell it. With this format however you can actually play music on any system as let us hear what is going on. Then the words would make sense don't ya think?
For me an audiophile is a person who loves audio equipment and experiencing the differences between them. Of course sound quality is part of it, but since even bargain speakers are producing very good sound theses days, it's almost secondary.
Thx great videos. Do you guys have songs titles with a good soundstage? Thx
One of the words that you use quite a bit didn't make it on to the list: Balls! I know that was one of the words you used to describe the Elac DBR62 Debut 2.0 Reference speakers, which led to my purchase of a demo pair I found online. Pretty happy with them but they made me realize how much my room sucked. Much moving of stuff followed.
I had always wondered what "fast" bass meant - thanks Steve!
This is great! Thanks so much, I learned a lot.
Do you have a recommended audiophile phone setup? Phone (of course), headphones, earbuds, wireless 'buds, etc.?
Great video! Thanks Steve. How about when, say a pair of speakers kind of fills well the space, they feel big and large? Is there a term for that?
Huuuuuuge. 😂
great idea! I'm sure this was helpful to many.
'Dry means, not wet!' 😂🤣
An excellent video! I've always wondered what many of those words mean as they pertain to audiophiles.
Steve or others - what speakers do you recommend for a master bedroom. Something easily driven that sounds good at low volumes? Thanks for advice.
Klipsch RP600M
Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac Thanks Steve!
Psychological imaging:
Listen to a video clip of the musicians playing. Amazing sound (subjectively) and does what thousands of dollars does for an upgrade (costing nothing).