Brilliant! Please share some great recordings you believe will highlight aspects of an audio system as described. 'This' song illustrates excellent dynamics / imaging / soundstage / transparency etc. Thanks, love the videos, great work, much appreciated!
Im listening to the new album by Bela Fleck "My Bluegrass Heart" very fine sounding album. Greetings from Denmark. I went from Devialet amp = lean, thin midrange, to Gryphon Diablo 120 = more meat on the bone, also warmer sounding and very dynamic.
Yes, but with kid with Banjo you are listening to PA System. I think the very best I have heard is Studio Direct To Disc Recording. And the worst I have heard was a Live Recording with all the Cat Calls, Clapping and Stomping of feet. The weirdest was a recording that was done on Real To Reel Tape, I could hear Tape Bleeding. :)
As to soundstage, alot of live performances utilize speakers, amps and processing machines at the event, often times not sounding very good in other areas. Classical, jazz and acoustic performances that do not utilize any amplification at least shows tones and such as the instrument really sounds in relation to your position from it, which is how a stereo system should try to emulate. But it can't, not perfectly for a variety of reasons. However, a stereo system in a particular room can sound very pleasing, involving and emotionally engaging. Once you have achieved that I believe you have achieved something special, regardless of price. While it may not sound exactly like a real performance, your brain will like it. Effortless, liquid sounds do not occur in real performances either. I like my system regardless if it isn't perfect and however modest in price, relatively modest at least.
Yeah, that one is a classic along with "fast bass"! The best part is that each word in the acronym actually have a proper musical definition that has nothing to do with the audiophile one. But you already knew that.
How is the soundstage/imaging on almost all recording of the modern era-- i.e. not live to room mics--where the musicians are in isolation booths/separate rooms? I understand most of the terms used by audiophiles, but I think people unknowingly attribute their sonic perceptions to something that happened in the recording space when in reality there was no placement of the musicians in the studio that would match what they are hearing. I've experienced holographic imaging, but I think it is nothing like a real musical experience. In all my years of making music, I've never heard it live in a way that sounded anything like holographic imaging. I think it is a very unreal phenomenon. Cool and interesting, but not natural at all.
Will, as far as you known this is. What if 5 people sit down in chairs across a room with acoustic instruments and start playing. I would think you would hear a sound stage.
@@robertthurston6858 Yes, but this is not how most music is recorded. I mention this above when I said they are recorded in isolation booths or separate rooms. Very few recordings are a group of musicians playing acoustic instruments and recorded with room/hall mics, classical and some jazz excluded. Also, the notion of height is a funny one. Verticality is not engineered into the recording. I was simply pointing out that many perceptions and the descriptive terms used by audiophiles don't align with the reality of what they are hearing.
What you have said is quite true, the presentation of an audio system is not and actual reproduction of the events but rather and illusion of acoustic interaction and engineering. That being said, the stereo illusion is absolutely amazing and the core reason why audiophiles search for the never ending 'perfection'. It is an unatainable goal. However, perhaps we can each find our own version of excellence .... And the journey continues.
@@markwilson0077 I agree entirely. I was not ever arguing that the sound, or the pursuit of better sound, is problematic. I am on the same ride as everyone else. I just think that the terminology is fanciful, and what people think they hear is not really what is happening. It's an illusion that many people misunderstand as being representative of a live reality.
I don't believe an audiophile could ever be happy with his system. Try enjoying listening to the music instead, especially if you spent at least around £5000, then setting it up is common sense. Let's stop the snobbery & repeated advice on every youtube channel, its all been said, its overloaded. Its down to the size, shape & acoustics of the individuals home too. So no-one can really advise you online. Your choice, Your decision, Your acoustics. Your tastes, Your budget.
I don't believe any of these terms... I had visited a lot of live performances, there is no sound stage, imaging, hologram, none of these in the real venues. Rather, my seat were always imperfect place, too close, too far, too high, too much left from the center, guy in front of me was too tall... etc... Live performance is also a very imperfect, random, human experience. No audio can reproduce that. Just live with what you got.
Brilliant! Please share some great recordings you believe will highlight aspects of an audio system as described. 'This' song illustrates excellent dynamics / imaging / soundstage / transparency etc.
Thanks, love the videos, great work, much appreciated!
Excellent explanations for all the audiophile words, best explanations I've heard and comprehensive. Thanks!
Finally, a simple and straightforward explanation of the basics. Keep it up!
How have I not found this channel sooner? Great stuff my dude!
Great stuff, thank for explaining!
Finally an explanation!!! Thank You
Great educational piece Sir! Would you please share your thoughts on the Klipsch Cornwall IVs? Thank you in advance for your time, BC
Thanks for the explanation. I heard these terms a lot without knowing exactly what they meant.
Im listening to the new album by Bela Fleck "My Bluegrass Heart" very fine sounding album.
Greetings from Denmark.
I went from Devialet amp = lean, thin midrange, to Gryphon Diablo 120 = more meat on the bone, also warmer sounding and very dynamic.
Yes, but with kid with Banjo you are listening to PA System. I think the very best I have heard is Studio Direct To Disc Recording. And the worst I have heard was a Live Recording with all the Cat Calls, Clapping and Stomping of feet. The weirdest was a recording that was done on Real To Reel Tape, I could hear Tape Bleeding. :)
As to soundstage, alot of live performances utilize speakers, amps and processing machines at the event, often times not sounding very good in other areas. Classical, jazz and acoustic performances that do not utilize any amplification at least shows tones and such as the instrument really sounds in relation to your position from it, which is how a stereo system should try to emulate. But it can't, not perfectly for a variety of reasons.
However, a stereo system in a particular room can sound very pleasing, involving and emotionally engaging. Once you have achieved that I believe you have achieved something special, regardless of price.
While it may not sound exactly like a real performance, your brain will like it. Effortless, liquid sounds do not occur in real performances either. I like my system regardless if it isn't perfect and however modest in price, relatively modest at least.
Plz explain "grain or grainy". Cheers from Sweden.
Opposite of smooth, i.e. slightly rough / harsh potentially.
You’re missing PRaT explanation :-)
Yeah, that one is a classic along with "fast bass"! The best part is that each word in the acronym actually have a proper musical definition that has nothing to do with the audiophile one. But you already knew that.
How is the soundstage/imaging on almost all recording of the modern era-- i.e. not live to room mics--where the musicians are in isolation booths/separate rooms? I understand most of the terms used by audiophiles, but I think people unknowingly attribute their sonic perceptions to something that happened in the recording space when in reality there was no placement of the musicians in the studio that would match what they are hearing. I've experienced holographic imaging, but I think it is nothing like a real musical experience. In all my years of making music, I've never heard it live in a way that sounded anything like holographic imaging. I think it is a very unreal phenomenon. Cool and interesting, but not natural at all.
Will, as far as you known this is. What if 5 people sit down in chairs across a room with acoustic instruments and start playing. I would think you would hear a sound stage.
@@robertthurston6858 Yes, but this is not how most music is recorded. I mention this above when I said they are recorded in isolation booths or separate rooms. Very few recordings are a group of musicians playing acoustic instruments and recorded with room/hall mics, classical and some jazz excluded. Also, the notion of height is a funny one. Verticality is not engineered into the recording. I was simply pointing out that many perceptions and the descriptive terms used by audiophiles don't align with the reality of what they are hearing.
What you have said is quite true, the presentation of an audio system is not and actual reproduction of the events but rather and illusion of acoustic interaction and engineering.
That being said, the stereo illusion is absolutely amazing and the core reason why audiophiles search for the never ending 'perfection'. It is an unatainable goal. However, perhaps we can each find our own version of excellence .... And the journey continues.
@@markwilson0077 I agree entirely. I was not ever arguing that the sound, or the pursuit of better sound, is problematic. I am on the same ride as everyone else. I just think that the terminology is fanciful, and what people think they hear is not really what is happening. It's an illusion that many people misunderstand as being representative of a live reality.
@@jmal5390 Fanciful indeed, your diplomacy is notable sir. I am in full agreement.
Whats your opinon of G.R. research better or worse?
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Gear doesn't necessarily have to cost thousands to sound excellent.
My favorite audiophile nonsense term is "fast bass", which of course is a oxymoron.
I don't believe an audiophile could ever be happy with his system. Try enjoying listening to the music instead, especially if you spent at least around £5000, then setting it up is common sense. Let's stop the snobbery & repeated advice on every youtube channel, its all been said, its overloaded. Its down to the size, shape & acoustics of the individuals home too. So no-one can really advise you online. Your choice, Your decision, Your acoustics. Your tastes, Your budget.
I don't believe any of these terms...
I had visited a lot of live performances, there is no sound stage, imaging, hologram, none of these in the real venues.
Rather, my seat were always imperfect place, too close, too far, too high, too much left from the center, guy in front of me was too tall... etc...
Live performance is also a very imperfect, random, human experience.
No audio can reproduce that.
Just live with what you got.