It was being 5 percent off the intensity needed.. Not entirely surprising. H. H.. We not switched on full anyone could see it.. It just shows Rangers aren't a great concern anymore.. But it needs to be..
Guys, Hatate has had 2 assists in 29 matches this season, 2. This is the player that can pick that pass, unlock a defence and be the creative spark? Not for me anymore. He doesn't look arsed.
Every team has off days. What I couldn’t understand was why at least half the team couldn’t pass the ball to their teammates. Constantly gave the ball away, and no dig to get it back. Piss poor attitude. Hopefully a vast improvement on Sunday.
It's not a bad thing being brought back down to earth we have been happy clapping along for a few weeks now there's room for improvement clearly hope the board see it that way too
Never mind the spelling , that was an utter disgrace from an auld Tim , a high press and we all run away , did nobody have the common sense , over the top make them turn , leaving 4/5 chasing thin air as st mirren and Motherwell done recently didn't our elite coaches notice that my 14 grandson noticed and he's a keeper
Brendan Needs to Put the Training Bib Back on, No point Having an "Elite Coach" Dealing with General Manager/Director of Football Duties When that's the Result.
The most worrying thing is we ignored all the red flags from the cup final and put that down to an off day. The reality is they’ve found have found a way to nullify our game and Rodger’s didn’t try to find a solution to this after the cup final. This is the issue when you have one set style of play with the same patterns over and over again. Hope this is the wake up call Rodger’s needs or this won’t be the last poor result against them this season
Correct. Rangers had the superior tactics and Brendan ought to have made some key substitutions at half time, including Callum. He is not good enough in these type of games where the opposition put in some good marking and pressing. He sits too deep, so doesn't influence the attacking of Celtic enough.
May be a blessing in disguise. We need to remember never to let our guard down. They have been eratic this season but they have also had some good results in Europe. Any complacency is very wrong. The performance also highlights the need for a bit more competition in the squad and hopefully minds will be further focused on that during this January window.
Cambuslang rangers would have beaten us yesterday totally unacceptable, I wondered at times if our side were on a losing bonus because they certainly played very very well for it
Top job. Top chat. Can't see the players being spooked. They've gone there before and won with no fans. Rodgers went into that game 14 points ahead, a trophy in the cabinet, and on the verge of progressing in the Champions League. Clement went into the game knowing it could be his last, and having never beaten us. The hungrier team won, which is quite normal.
Hamish and Asim …you both give a very real breakdown of the game and moments within … Bad as it is …Hopefully come May , The Treble of Trophies is sitting in Paradise Once Again … We Go Again … ☝🏼🇮🇪⭐️
We were dreadful yesterday as a team and and we never learned any lessons from the League Cup Final where they played a mid block and nullified us a fair bit. However we've been brilliant for most of the season and I think this result is an outlier and it could be the best thing that happened to us anyway as we might've been thinking we'll win this league at a canter but now we'll realise league titles have to be earned and you need to put in a shift every game to get your medals at the end of the season. We play St Mirren on Sunday who took this sevco side apart seven days ago and Brendan needs to give them a kick up the arse they might need after a very poor performance on the day HH
Mentality/complacency one issue. If you’re off it in a derby then you can be punished despite any gap in quality. But the wider concern for me is how post Leipzig some teams have worked Celtic out a bit. Let centre backs have it, set up in mid block, man mark midfielders & have triggers to jump/press, e.g. when full backs invert or ball comes across half way line. We all knew they would set up the same way as the LCF & I (naively?) assumed Celtic/Rodgers would have analysed that & worked out different ways to build up through midfield to overcome their basic but ultimately effective set up & give them something different to think about. It was alarming how poor & one dimensional we were & we basically fell apart.
Our most successful move happened in the first minute or two when Scales' dinked a pass that over the heads of the midfield for Maeda to run on to. The move lead to a corner and Kyogo's missed opportunity. After that any ball that we played up field was in front of the Rangers defenders and midfielders, playing into their strengths. Why we stopped the high balls for Maeda and Kuhn to run on to is bamboozling!!
celtic cant cope with their press,lost 6 goals against them in 180 minutes,that is shocking,i thought surely this time brendan has this worked out but no,we looked clueless.brendan like ange is too stubborn so expect more beatings off them in the future.
“We can guarantee the safety of their players and fans” You guys forgetting the innumerable times Celtic fans have thrown shit at players from a number of teams? Dont get me wrong, I hope they ID the guy, charge him and ban him for life, but don’t pretend your shit doesn’t stink too.
Guys, Hatate has had 2 assists in 29 matches this season, 2. This is the player who apparently can pick that pass to unlock defences and be the creative spark. Sorry, not for me anymore. He doesn't look bothered at all. We already have someone else hungry in that position - Luke McCowan, who has 9 assists (and has played around half the amount of minutes) Time for his run in the team.
this is what ive been saying for MONTHS on these comments and numerous other celtic ones about hatate. losing the ball 20x a game for the off chance he might create or score isnt worth it. thats potentially 20 shots away at out goal for what? the off chance he gets a decent pass or assist? and now youre saying hes had 2 assists this year. thts appalling and we should sell him. hatate is still living off his first season.
Same can be said for our striker… kyogo can’t fkn score, and everyone is blaming the “delivery”. Yet Idah gets the same delivery and half the minutes played. Yet is damn near even on goals. Even Idah isn’t good enough tbh. He’s far better than kyogo
The worrying thing is the fact that they’ve got SIX goals against us in 2 ninety minute games. So many way off it at once is a recipe for disaster. Maybe we had to have the smugness wiped off our faces and that was the kick in the arse we just needed.
I really don't mind being beaten if it's a good game and we just finish up short. During the game i was wondering why so many didn't even turn up? Sorry i can't compute that non performance? But.........We move on! ☘️💚
@@RMcL328 It was generous TBF. Schmechel's distribution in tight situations when the defence gave him no help was on point. A couple of good saves as well. Best player was probably CCV. And the only reason Scales & Hatate got 1 is because I can't give a 0. 😹
Questioning Calmac as a number 6 sitting midfielder, is not an overreaction, it's blindingly obvious he's way to slow and past his best against better opposition.
Scales and Reo should have been hooked at HT. I think the inactivity from the manager at this point was questionable. We were only 1 nil down I suppose but the performance was so so bad that it warrented a pre 60min substitution. I hated all the we're going to stroll it patter leading up to the game and the 'league's in the bag' chat. Big big wake up call. This league is NOT done.
Did scales actually pass to a Celtic jersey the whole game , this display reminds me of Rodgers Leicester days , no other way to play one dimensional , high press and we are gone very very simple stuff, juvenile stuff at most
We are not as good as we think we are. Good job rangers dropped points over Xmas otherwise would only be 6 points diff. That was the worst derby performance since Lenny was in charge in 10 in a row disaster of a season
I was saying that we need to get the fast accurate passing game going. I feared Callum getting marked out of it. I wanted Trusty instead of Scales. Scales giving the ball away for their first goal set the tone for the match. We just need to hope that Brendan can kick them back into the tight passing game. I am going to the game on Sunday; hoping the players put this one behind them and get back to winning ways.
I was SCREAMING at the TV during the cup final for Celtic to stop going backwards. They looked for most of the game like they were attempting to score in their own goal rather than Rangers' goal! None of the players seem to be in form and seem to have forgotten their talent and ability.
I agree, Scales was far worse in the 1st half than Trusty was at Hampden. I could not believe my eyes when he reappeared for the 2nd half....it was truly astonishing.
I know there's a lotta bad feeling, but I can see that disappearing very quickly again with the games coming so fast. Watch the results this coming weekend.
Im not frustrated with a loss as much as Im frustrated with the performance. Its the same problem as it was against Brugge Zagreb and the cup final. With that said Rodgers tried to address it. Even though it didnt work I trust Brenders to find a solution.
A totally woeful performance. Teams are quite happy to let Scales and Carter Vickers move up with the ball as they can't create anything. But, it was just a bad day at the office. One or two additions in the January window and we will be back on track. Don't worry, be happy.
Horrendously bad is right. We’ve been grinding a bit but passable over the last six or seven weeks but that was shocking. That was on par with Dortmund how bad we were. We chucked it against Dortmund ten minutes in and the same yesterday which is horrendous. It’s ok beating st johnstone etc but apart from Leipzig we have played very little football in the bigger games. Not good enough..
Nobody seen this coming. No fight and our game plan was nonexistent, our ball possession was a bad joke. They gave us half the pitch ,then pushed past us constantly.
They have found a way n that is to mark McGregor out the game but he should find a way to lose his marker and the other midfielders should take more control too
For me Rodger's should have known,that they would press our midfieldd as they did in the cup final,lack of mending that problem,sits with our manager,why no subs at half time was criminal,as anyone watching this game knew exactly the players who should been hooked long before halftime.very poor management indeed.
We lost a battle we haven’t lost the war !!!! It’s a kick in the gonads for sure..only 3 points though..law of averages says they’d win one sooner or later..HH🍀✊🍀
I blame Stevie!! I might even get a T-shirt made! Already moved on. Have a fine weekend. Looking forward to going on Sunday and seeing us getting back to normal.
Shambolic sums it up. It felt like the Dortmund game and we just didnt get going at all. We need to have a plan for when teams sit on CM. Too many players were hiding and Scales will get the criticism but noone making angles for them. Hopefully well learn from this.
Totally agree, that just reminded me of watching the dortmund game, albeit they’re not dortmund quality I’d hoped we’d never play that poorly again this season, but…….
Spot on assessment Asim. Lots of lessons that NEED to be learned quickly. 11 points clear this morning,, but that appears to be part of the problem after yesterday.ls display. You must be motivated for the battle!!!
I never fancied us in this game..I knew they were due a result and it mattered far more to them..They play great when games don't matter and their bottle crashes when it does matter and long may it continue.
Class the performance as, “one of them games!” Been there done that, etc etc. frustrating, sure enough. Apocalyptic? Nah. However, BR must have an answer to the style of negative play laid out by opponents like The Rangers; and i’m sure he will. Onward and upward.
Hi Hamish / Stevie , THERE IS NO PANIC HERE , WE made them look good , so we loaned them 3 points we will get them back then stroll along to the title and Cup . WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED . From , the GLASGOW CELTIC man , Johannesburg and HAPPY NEW YEAR TO THE TRODDEN CLAN , MELBOURNE .🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
We can lose games. That’s football. What’s really twisting my nipples, however, is that utter embarrassment of a performance. CCV aside, I thought Celtic stunk the place out. Hatate and Scales in particular. Khun and Maeda toothless. Kyogo was unfortunate but 3 shots to their 20-something is insane. Reality checks can work wonders though.
callum mcgregor is a massive problem..we sit 30 yards deeper as a team because he wants to take it off back 2. bernardo in that position is 30 yards higher..so plain to see
Hatate is a Myth, one great season under Ange and bang average since. Couple good passes doesn't make him a great. More often than not he's the weak link on a continuous basis
A horrendous performance tbh and the brand of football we play is inviting defeat. There was no hunger or desire yesterday and rangers wanted it more. Calmac was well off the pace yesterday and the rest off the team gave the ball away constantly and i could tell after ten minutes this was not going to be our day. We need more physicality in the middle and defence as well. I'm maybe moaning but that was a wake up call even though we're eleven points in front. Lick our wounds and get back on track.
We can't deal with sides that sit of us until the halfway line then press us and hit us on the counter, we really struggle to play if we can't pass through the middle of teams or can't get our wingers involved we are afraid to go long and mix it up a bit, doesn't help when your manager keeps on players that are clearly miles off it Hatate and Scales should have been off at Half Time absolutely vile performance from both the rest of the team weren't much better, it's like we turned up to that game expecting a 4-0 win to be handed to us the players are lucky there still 11 clear but that was an utterly disgraceful performance yesterday from the manager and players, we had a great year last year no doubt but the players can't rest on that for a second it's gone now and we need to pull the finger out after that, I expect a big performance against St Mirren.
Midfield was all over the place. Far too slow and big gaps everywhere. Rodgers tactics was to push Taylor into midfield in the second half to make an extra man and that left Cerny in loads of space for every counter attack. Really poor tactics from Rodgers especially when Scales is having a nightmare the last thing he needs is the left back moving into midfield. When we play 433 against a pressing team we more often than not struggle and Rodgers needs to try other formations as our three man midfield gets easily over run in certain games.
In regards to Hatate possibly wanting a move to a richer club in a stronger league….. he’s going the wrong way about it! Any scout of any sort of calibre who has watched his last 10 games or so, will surely have the words AVOID. TOO MANY DOUBTS” in huge red ink capital letters beside Hatate’s name. He’s far too inconsistent to ever play in a top European league. Yesterday was Hatate at his worst. Absolutely powerpuff in defence and so careless on the ball that it’d have been funny if it wasn’t happening to my team. That’s not to say his 10 team mates played well, far from it, but the fact is that was absolutely woeful from Hatate and if he’s looking for a move, the only move he’ll get playing like that is a move to the development team!
I've been saying for months that Hatate is too inconsistent and when.he"s off it he is so off it that it costs us hugely against teams who can capitalize..He seems an endearing quiet fella and is very gifted but something prevents consistency in him and it's gone on too long
We have played them 3 times. We beat them 3-0, then we won the cup, then they beat us 3-0 hitting us on break at home 😂😂😂 BR has lost 2 games in 22 against them Some of you in these comnents need to take a real long hard look at yourselves 😂 like can celtic have no conpetition, are we only "good" and able to win titles if every other team is shit? Half of you sound like your crumbleing? Seriously wise up hahah
Talking about "how we need to strengthen in January" the huns hear that and think were scared, maybe if they beat us twice more, maybe then its time to worry But untill then chill hahaha
Poor showing by Celtic. Been a Celtic fan long enough now to never feel comfortable going into these games. That said, this is a dead rubber game for all intents and purposes. Hate losing to that mob, but fair play they got the result they deserved.
Really poor from the team and manager. We got bullied all over the pitch and our passing was terrible. Dust ourselves off, and we go again. Still 11pts clear and will win the league. Hail Hail. 🍀🍀🍀
Calmac was too slow. Greg Taylor hid after his last woeful derby. Scales, Hatate & Bernardo just gave the ball away. A starting XI without those 5 would have won the game...I like the virus idea, the virus obviously made those 5 incapable of passing a ball.
To be honest I wasn't that worried if we lost because of the points difference and the law of averages.But the manner of the defeat is totally unacceptable Rogers is to blame also the players were woeful.🍀🍀🍀
Almost all the daily rankers lot tipped us to win so do the bookies Hamish, the player's probably slackened off. Bad day at the office we move on now and new players in . They'll struggle Thursday Sunday again soon 😆
On the ball leading up to this game! …… When it got down to it None of our players wanted to touch it! …For those in our team that were unaware this was an “ Old Firm Game” in short not just another fkn Game and personally the visual mental damage it’s left with myself is pure Car Crash material & Should not be forgotten in a hurry, hopefully they are all sat down and made to watch this game right through.
I think that possibly there was fear in the players because of the hatred that usually comes from Rangers fans at Ibrox. They weren't looking for the ball. Rangers have had to deal with the same at Celtic. Sometimes the mind gets distracted.
As much as I can criticise the players for not showing up. And if that is the obvious reason then Rodgers gets a pass. But twice now it's been a slog. And I am afraid to say Brenda needs to rethink things tactically and maybe personal wise too. I didnt think we needed any more midfielders but after seeing hatate, bernadette and engels go MIA I am kinda worried we need more in the middle. Shows how far o Riley was and a big loss.
Take yesterday on the chin and move on ,not worried one bit about yesterday they will get carried away as usual 3 new signings in coming in January will give squad it needs . Cheers guys
We were always going to lose at some point, No need to analyse it. The best team on the day won, Congratulations to them Let's move on.120 is in coming.
Sometime you need a kick up the back side anf you move on and learn from it. However, it was so uncharacteristic that i wouldn't be surprised if there was a flu or bug going around within the team.
It's a genuinely baffling display from Celtic. I am looking for a valid explanation for this and all I can come up with is outlandish but it's the only way I can make sense of it. I'm hoping that it was part of a genius plan from Rodgers i.e. he knew that if Celtic won the game Clement would be gone so he has played the long game by making sure Clement remains in post!! What else explains it???
The only positive i can take from that performance is that its as bad as we played against Dortmund, so hopefully it sparks a similar reaction. Hard to put your finger on why it was so bad but happy to leave it in the past if we move on quickly.
We have kept the Belgium Waffle in a job making them think they are better than they really are. Also it shines a light on we still need new players in this transfer window. No panic
Players just didn't look bothered, drives me nuts when we make Sevco look good and they think it's a great victory a team full of bang average players it's just not acceptable. Same old suspects for us time and time again not showing up Hatate, Scales and Taylor, basically the whole team but should have been Engels/McCowan, Trusty and Valle from the start. Also just don't buy the were enough points in front chat to walk about in an old firm game, it's 17 points instead of 11 enough motivation right there. Nasty outfit from top to bottom is Sevco.
It wasn't the Result that bothered me ,, they deserved to Win. I was just frustrated & amazed at how bad we played from back to front...
It was being 5 percent off the intensity needed.. Not entirely surprising. H. H.. We not switched on full anyone could see it.. It just shows Rangers aren't a great concern anymore.. But it needs to be..
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Guys, Hatate has had 2 assists in 29 matches this season, 2.
This is the player that can pick that pass, unlock a defence and be the creative spark? Not for me anymore. He doesn't look arsed.
Every team has off days. What I couldn’t understand was why at least half the team couldn’t pass the ball to their teammates.
Constantly gave the ball away, and no dig to get it back.
Piss poor attitude.
Hopefully a vast improvement on Sunday.
This was covid year levels of bad l..Hatate is done and I'd say Scales showing his deficiencies...dare I say it Calmac too
It's not a bad thing being brought back down to earth we have been happy clapping along for a few weeks now there's room for improvement clearly hope the board see it that way too
Spot on mate
We looked like a team 14 points behind yesterday the worst derby performance I’ve seen in a very long time
To give scales and hetate another 45 minutes in that game is unforgivable
Its unforgivable that you can't spell Hatate's name correctly after 3 years
Never mind the spelling , that was an utter disgrace from an auld Tim , a high press and we all run away , did nobody have the common sense , over the top make them turn , leaving 4/5 chasing thin air as st mirren and Motherwell done recently didn't our elite coaches notice that my 14 grandson noticed and he's a keeper
Brendan Needs to Put the Training Bib Back on, No point Having an "Elite Coach" Dealing with General Manager/Director of Football Duties When that's the Result.
The most worrying thing is we ignored all the red flags from the cup final and put that down to an off day. The reality is they’ve found have found a way to nullify our game and Rodger’s didn’t try to find a solution to this after the cup final. This is the issue when you have one set style of play with the same patterns over and over again. Hope this is the wake up call Rodger’s needs or this won’t be the last poor result against them this season
They were on us in the final we should have expected that
Correct. Rangers had the superior tactics and Brendan ought to have made some key substitutions at half time, including Callum. He is not good enough in these type of games where the opposition put in some good marking and pressing. He sits too deep, so doesn't influence the attacking of Celtic enough.
There's a big Matt Oriley hole in the midfield that needs to be filled.
This is it 👍 matts long legs won back a lot of lose balls, thought we'd get some of that with engels but nope.
Thanks
People say that we didnt have a plan B. I dont think we even had a plan A.
Never had the skill to pull off any game plan it was woeful.
May be a blessing in disguise. We need to remember never to let our guard down. They have been eratic this season but they have also had some good results in Europe. Any complacency is very wrong. The performance also highlights the need for a bit more competition in the squad and hopefully minds will be further focused on that during this January window.
Cambuslang rangers would have beaten us yesterday totally unacceptable, I wondered at times if our side were on a losing bonus because they certainly played very very well for it
Top job. Top chat. Can't see the players being spooked. They've gone there before and won with no fans. Rodgers went into that game 14 points ahead, a trophy in the cabinet, and on the verge of progressing in the Champions League. Clement went into the game knowing it could be his last, and having never beaten us. The hungrier team won, which is quite normal.
Hamish and Asim …you both give a very real breakdown of the game and moments within …
Bad as it is …Hopefully come May , The Treble of Trophies is sitting in Paradise Once Again …
We Go Again …
☝🏼🇮🇪⭐️
We saw the same pattern when Slippy G was In charge. They got our number
We were dreadful yesterday as a team and and we never learned any lessons from the League Cup Final where they played a mid block and nullified us a fair bit. However we've been brilliant for most of the season and I think this result is an outlier and it could be the best thing that happened to us anyway as we might've been thinking we'll win this league at a canter but now we'll realise league titles have to be earned and you need to put in a shift every game to get your medals at the end of the season. We play St Mirren on Sunday who took this sevco side apart seven days ago and Brendan needs to give them a kick up the arse they might need after a very poor performance on the day HH
Am afraid Brendan needs to shoulder some of the blame. Not hooking Rio till he did was a huge mistake. CCV apart, we shat the bed.
Mentality/complacency one issue. If you’re off it in a derby then you can be punished despite any gap in quality. But the wider concern for me is how post Leipzig some teams have worked Celtic out a bit. Let centre backs have it, set up in mid block, man mark midfielders & have triggers to jump/press, e.g. when full backs invert or ball comes across half way line. We all knew they would set up the same way as the LCF & I (naively?) assumed Celtic/Rodgers would have analysed that & worked out different ways to build up through midfield to overcome their basic but ultimately effective set up & give them something different to think about. It was alarming how poor & one dimensional we were & we basically fell apart.
Our most successful move happened in the first minute or two when Scales' dinked a pass that over the heads of the midfield for Maeda to run on to. The move lead to a corner and Kyogo's missed opportunity. After that any ball that we played up field was in front of the Rangers defenders and midfielders, playing into their strengths. Why we stopped the high balls for Maeda and Kuhn to run on to is bamboozling!!
Reminds me of 19-20 where we won the cup final despite not playing well and then were terrible in the league game against them a few weeks later
Just posted the same on talk Celtic
I saw it coming, cup final we gave far far too much encouragement, hopefully a blessing in disguise, get a few players in this month
celtic cant cope with their press,lost 6 goals against them in 180 minutes,that is shocking,i thought surely this time brendan has this worked out but no,we looked clueless.brendan like ange is too stubborn so expect more beatings off them in the future.
“We can guarantee the safety of their players and fans” You guys forgetting the innumerable times Celtic fans have thrown shit at players from a number of teams? Dont get me wrong, I hope they ID the guy, charge him and ban him for life, but don’t pretend your shit doesn’t stink too.
Guys, Hatate has had 2 assists in 29 matches this season, 2.
This is the player who apparently can pick that pass to unlock defences and be the creative spark. Sorry, not for me anymore. He doesn't look bothered at all. We already have someone else hungry in that position - Luke McCowan, who has 9 assists (and has played around half the amount of minutes) Time for his run in the team.
this is what ive been saying for MONTHS on these comments and numerous other celtic ones about hatate.
losing the ball 20x a game for the off chance he might create or score isnt worth it. thats potentially 20 shots away at out goal for what? the off chance he gets a decent pass or assist? and now youre saying hes had 2 assists this year. thts appalling and we should sell him.
hatate is still living off his first season.
Same can be said for our striker… kyogo can’t fkn score, and everyone is blaming the “delivery”.
Yet Idah gets the same delivery and half the minutes played. Yet is damn near even on goals.
Even Idah isn’t good enough tbh. He’s far better than kyogo
Im a fan of McGowan but you overlooked the fact that he gave the ball away for the third goal .
His name's McCowan not McGowan
The worrying thing is the fact that they’ve got SIX goals against us in 2 ninety minute games.
So many way off it at once is a recipe for disaster.
Maybe we had to have the smugness wiped off our faces and that was the kick in the arse we just needed.
I really don't mind being beaten if it's a good game and we just finish up short. During the game i was wondering why so many didn't even turn up? Sorry i can't compute that non performance? But.........We move on! ☘️💚
4 - Schmeichel
3 - Johnston
5 - CCV
1 - Scales
2 - Taylor
1 - Hatate
2 - CalMac
2 - Bernardo
2 - Maeda
2 - Kyogo
2 - Khun
2 for Bernardo, away
Generous with KS and Johnston
@@RMcL328 It was generous TBF. Schmechel's distribution in tight situations when the defence gave him no help was on point. A couple of good saves as well.
Best player was probably CCV.
And the only reason Scales & Hatate got 1 is because I can't give a 0. 😹
@@JimIrvine-t8r He was bad TBF, just not as bad as Hatate or Scales. 😹
Questioning Calmac as a number 6 sitting midfielder, is not an overreaction, it's blindingly obvious he's way to slow and past his best against better opposition.
He’s simply not a defensive midfielder
Agreed. Callum wasn't playing the way we needed in that game so he should have been subbed for the second half, along with Scales and Hatate.
Happy New Year ! 🇬🇧
Scales and Reo should have been hooked at HT. I think the inactivity from the manager at this point was questionable. We were only 1 nil down I suppose but the performance was so so bad that it warrented a pre 60min substitution.
I hated all the we're going to stroll it patter leading up to the game and the 'league's in the bag' chat. Big big wake up call. This league is NOT done.
Did scales actually pass to a Celtic jersey the whole game , this display reminds me of Rodgers Leicester days , no other way to play one dimensional , high press and we are gone very very simple stuff, juvenile stuff at most
Playing Hatate before Engels or McCowan,on the off chance that he plays a good game,is just not good enough.
We are not as good as we think we are. Good job rangers dropped points over Xmas otherwise would only be 6 points diff. That was the worst derby performance since Lenny was in charge in 10 in a row disaster of a season
i dont think its a case of we arent as good as we think we are... we CAN be as good as we have been, out form has just never recovered.
I was saying that we need to get the fast accurate passing game going. I feared Callum getting marked out of it. I wanted Trusty instead of Scales.
Scales giving the ball away for their first goal set the tone for the match.
We just need to hope that Brendan can kick them back into the tight passing game. I am going to the game on Sunday; hoping the players put this one behind them and get back to winning ways.
I was SCREAMING at the TV during the cup final for Celtic to stop going backwards.
They looked for most of the game like they were attempting to score in their own goal rather than Rangers' goal!
None of the players seem to be in form and seem to have forgotten their talent and ability.
Brendan took trusty off in the cup final for not playing well, why did he not do the same with Scales,Reo and McGregor.
Baffling. And I smell more Brendan bullshit.
Because his a Irish lad and Brendan loves our big ginger CB
I agree, Scales was far worse in the 1st half than Trusty was at Hampden. I could not believe my eyes when he reappeared for the 2nd half....it was truly astonishing.
Because he knows the players better than you.
I know there's a lotta bad feeling, but I can see that disappearing very quickly again with the games coming so fast. Watch the results this coming weekend.
Im not frustrated with a loss as much as Im frustrated with the performance. Its the same problem as it was against Brugge Zagreb and the cup final. With that said Rodgers tried to address it. Even though it didnt work I trust Brenders to find a solution.
A totally woeful performance.
Teams are quite happy to let Scales and Carter Vickers move up with the ball as they can't create anything.
But, it was just a bad day at the office.
One or two additions in the January window and we will be back on track.
Don't worry, be happy.
Horrendously bad is right. We’ve been grinding a bit but passable over the last six or seven weeks but that was shocking. That was on par with Dortmund how bad we were. We chucked it against Dortmund ten minutes in and the same yesterday which is horrendous. It’s ok beating st johnstone etc but apart from Leipzig we have played very little football in the bigger games. Not good enough..
Manager also needs to accept some blame ... lost the plot today!
He left Scales and Hatate on to start the second half. Stood and watched a train wreck happen in front of his eyes and did nothing.
Everyone has to take their fair share for the performance.
Fed up with hatate now tbh. Calmac and Bernardo also poor today and scales wtf!
A number of criminal performances.
I expected a hard fought match and a tight one but for a Celtic point of view unfortunately we had none of those things yesterday!
Nobody seen this coming. No fight and our game plan was nonexistent, our ball possession was a bad joke. They gave us half the pitch ,then pushed past us constantly.
Nobody "SAW" this coming is correct grammar.
I did though 😅 law of averages comes into play and one point. We ain't or even they will go 10...11 games without a win.
They have found a way n that is to mark McGregor out the game but he should find a way to lose his marker and the other midfielders should take more control too
Everyone could see it coming, the arrogance from our fans has filtered into the team and all they thought they had to do was turn up
We must find different ways of playing. The manager has plenty of work to do. The players and himself let the supporters down horribly today
For me Rodger's should have known,that they would press our midfieldd as they did in the cup final,lack of mending that problem,sits with our manager,why no subs at half time was criminal,as anyone watching this game knew exactly the players who should been hooked long before halftime.very poor management indeed.
We praise Brendan as a great manager and rightly so, but you are spot on in your appraisal of this performance.
We lost a battle we haven’t lost the war !!!! It’s a kick in the gonads for sure..only 3 points though..law of averages says they’d win one sooner or later..HH🍀✊🍀
I blame Stevie!! I might even get a T-shirt made! Already moved on. Have a fine weekend. Looking forward to going on Sunday and seeing us getting back to normal.
Shambolic sums it up. It felt like the Dortmund game and we just didnt get going at all. We need to have a plan for when teams sit on CM. Too many players were hiding and Scales will get the criticism but noone making angles for them. Hopefully well learn from this.
Totally agree, that just reminded me of watching the dortmund game, albeit they’re not dortmund quality
I’d hoped we’d never play that poorly again this season, but…….
Hardly ever lose but when they don’t show up they really don’t show up
Spot on assessment Asim. Lots of lessons that NEED to be learned quickly. 11 points clear this morning,, but that appears to be part of the problem after yesterday.ls display. You must be motivated for the battle!!!
I never fancied us in this game..I knew they were due a result and it mattered far more to them..They play great when games don't matter and their bottle crashes when it does matter and long may it continue.
Our style of play has been found out.. Big time. We need a new plan A
I went into the game fairly relaxed too. I think the players may have been too relaxed also.
Class the performance as, “one of them games!” Been there done that, etc etc. frustrating, sure enough. Apocalyptic? Nah. However, BR must have an answer to the style of negative play laid out by opponents like The Rangers; and i’m sure he will. Onward and upward.
Whether they were “spooked” or not , they certainly played like they were.
Hi Hamish / Stevie , THERE IS NO PANIC HERE , WE made them look good , so we loaned them 3 points we will get them back then stroll along to the title and Cup . WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED . From , the GLASGOW CELTIC man , Johannesburg and HAPPY NEW YEAR TO THE TRODDEN CLAN , MELBOURNE .🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Mindset, aggression, winning battles. Slack passing. That was pish.
Roger’s riding on the back of Ange, finally caught out..could have been 5.
If Celtic play like that again, anyone in the SPL could take points off us.
We can lose games. That’s football. What’s really twisting my nipples, however, is that utter embarrassment of a performance. CCV aside, I thought Celtic stunk the place out. Hatate and Scales in particular. Khun and Maeda toothless. Kyogo was unfortunate but 3 shots to their 20-something is insane. Reality checks can work wonders though.
We aren't as good as we think we are
We’ve been poor for about 2 months
callum mcgregor is a massive problem..we sit 30 yards deeper as a team because he wants to take it off back 2. bernardo in that position is 30 yards higher..so plain to see
Bernardo was awful
Yep. We won’t progress until we address the DM position.
How does it help us evolve as a team to indulge an ageing McGregor pretend to be Luka Modric against st Johnstone?
@@RMcL328 your support have built him upto that. In reality against a younger better player he’s average at best
This celtic team is on a downward spiral. Can you not see that? We’ve been playing poorly for weeks.
Hatate is a Myth, one great season under Ange and bang average since. Couple good passes doesn't make him a great. More often than not he's the weak link on a continuous basis
To not buy miovski has came back to haunt us kyogo could have killed the game in the 1st couple a minutes and they would have folded
Wouldn't over analyse.
We controlled the 'engine room' throughout the game, effectively nulling McGregor.
Other teams will watch and take note.
A horrendous performance tbh and the brand of football we play is inviting defeat. There was no hunger or desire yesterday and rangers wanted it more. Calmac was well off the pace yesterday and the rest off the team gave the ball away constantly and i could tell after ten minutes this was not going to be our day. We need more physicality in the middle and defence as well. I'm maybe moaning but that was a wake up call even though we're eleven points in front. Lick our wounds and get back on track.
We can't deal with sides that sit of us until the halfway line then press us and hit us on the counter, we really struggle to play if we can't pass through the middle of teams or can't get our wingers involved we are afraid to go long and mix it up a bit, doesn't help when your manager keeps on players that are clearly miles off it Hatate and Scales should have been off at Half Time absolutely vile performance from both the rest of the team weren't much better, it's like we turned up to that game expecting a 4-0 win to be handed to us the players are lucky there still 11 clear but that was an utterly disgraceful performance yesterday from the manager and players, we had a great year last year no doubt but the players can't rest on that for a second it's gone now and we need to pull the finger out after that, I expect a big performance against St Mirren.
Midfield was all over the place. Far too slow and big gaps everywhere. Rodgers tactics was to push Taylor into midfield in the second half to make an extra man and that left Cerny in loads of space for every counter attack. Really poor tactics from Rodgers especially when Scales is having a nightmare the last thing he needs is the left back moving into midfield. When we play 433 against a pressing team we more often than not struggle and Rodgers needs to try other formations as our three man midfield gets easily over run in certain games.
Where was maedas pressing ? and Khun didn’t look interest
Bullied,out fought, out played,out thought by a reserve sevco team utterly embarrassing
Spot on
In regards to Hatate possibly wanting a move to a richer club in a stronger league….. he’s going the wrong way about it!
Any scout of any sort of calibre who has watched his last 10 games or so, will surely have the words AVOID. TOO MANY DOUBTS” in huge red ink capital letters beside Hatate’s name.
He’s far too inconsistent to ever play in a top European league. Yesterday was Hatate at his worst. Absolutely powerpuff in defence and so careless on the ball that it’d have been funny if it wasn’t happening to my team.
That’s not to say his 10 team mates played well, far from it, but the fact is that was absolutely woeful from Hatate and if he’s looking for a move, the only move he’ll get playing like that is a move to the development team!
hatate has been like this all season. ALL SEASON.
remember that game against falkirk? yeah well it was hatate giving the ball away then as well.
I've been saying for months that Hatate is too inconsistent and when.he"s off it he is so off it that it costs us hugely against teams who can capitalize..He seems an endearing quiet fella and is very gifted but something prevents consistency in him and it's gone on too long
mate we did not start that game well.
We have played them 3 times. We beat them 3-0, then we won the cup, then they beat us 3-0 hitting us on break at home 😂😂😂 BR has lost 2 games in 22 against them
Some of you in these comnents need to take a real long hard look at yourselves 😂 like can celtic have no conpetition, are we only "good" and able to win titles if every other team is shit? Half of you sound like your crumbleing? Seriously wise up hahah
Talking about "how we need to strengthen in January" the huns hear that and think were scared, maybe if they beat us twice more, maybe then its time to worry
But untill then chill hahaha
Poor showing by Celtic. Been a Celtic fan long enough now to never feel comfortable going into these games. That said, this is a dead rubber game for all intents and purposes. Hate losing to that mob, but fair play they got the result they deserved.
Only CCV and Kasper were half decent the rest were woeful. Massive wake up call we need get our act together sharpish!
Really poor from the team and manager. We got bullied all over the pitch and our passing was terrible.
Dust ourselves off, and we go again. Still 11pts clear and will win the league.
Hail Hail. 🍀🍀🍀
We were Honkin’….. bullied, 2nd to everything, never got into it.
Calmac was too slow. Greg Taylor hid after his last woeful derby. Scales, Hatate & Bernardo just gave the ball away. A starting XI without those 5 would have won the game...I like the virus idea, the virus obviously made those 5 incapable of passing a ball.
To be honest I wasn't that worried if we lost because of the points difference and the law of averages.But the manner of the defeat is totally unacceptable Rogers is to blame also the players were woeful.🍀🍀🍀
Very sensible take on a really bad performance. Curious to see how the bhoys respond on Sunday.
Whatch Hibs do them on Sunday.
Almost all the daily rankers lot tipped us to win so do the bookies Hamish, the player's probably slackened off. Bad day at the office we move on now and new players in . They'll struggle Thursday Sunday again soon 😆
Lennon said celtic only had 15 mins of good play in the cup final
On the ball leading up to this game! …… When it got down to it None of our players wanted to touch it! …For those in our team that were unaware this was an “ Old Firm Game” in short not just another fkn Game and personally the visual mental damage it’s left with myself is pure Car Crash material & Should not be forgotten in a hurry, hopefully they are all sat down and made to watch this game right through.
I think that possibly there was fear in the players because of the hatred that usually comes from Rangers fans at Ibrox. They weren't looking for the ball. Rangers have had to deal with the same at Celtic. Sometimes the mind gets distracted.
We just have a partisan crowd, they are a rabid seething hateful mob...
As much as I can criticise the players for not showing up. And if that is the obvious reason then Rodgers gets a pass. But twice now it's been a slog. And I am afraid to say Brenda needs to rethink things tactically and maybe personal wise too. I didnt think we needed any more midfielders but after seeing hatate, bernadette and engels go MIA I am kinda worried we need more in the middle. Shows how far o Riley was and a big loss.
Take yesterday on the chin and move on ,not worried one bit about yesterday they will get carried away as usual 3 new signings in coming in January will give squad it needs . Cheers guys
total lack of effort Big Jock said players who wear the jersey should never be second best !!??
Management tactics to allow Rangers a win so that Clement didny get sacked. ?
Surely you cannot be serious?!?!
We were always going to lose at some point,
No need to analyse it.
The best team on the day won,
Congratulations to them
Let's move on.120 is in coming.
Sometime you need a kick up the back side anf you move on and learn from it. However, it was so uncharacteristic that i wouldn't be surprised if there was a flu or bug going around within the team.
Was thinking something similar
It's a genuinely baffling display from Celtic. I am looking for a valid explanation for this and all I can come up with is outlandish but it's the only way I can make sense of it. I'm hoping that it was part of a genius plan from Rodgers i.e. he knew that if Celtic won the game Clement would be gone so he has played the long game by making sure Clement remains in post!! What else explains it???
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The only positive i can take from that performance is that its as bad as we played against Dortmund, so hopefully it sparks a similar reaction.
Hard to put your finger on why it was so bad but happy to leave it in the past if we move on quickly.
We have kept the Belgium Waffle in a job making them think they are better than they really are. Also it shines a light on we still need new players in this transfer window. No panic
Celtic players have a great problem with we just turn up no way they have to perform on the pitch and earn the winning mentality
Wee kyogo looked under the weather. U could see the bags under his eyes.
Have to stop playing calmac at cdm. It gets found out in Europe and now vs our rivals
Aye i blame Stevie for yesterday 🫣
Players just didn't look bothered, drives me nuts when we make Sevco look good and they think it's a great victory a team full of bang average players it's just not acceptable. Same old suspects for us time and time again not showing up Hatate, Scales and Taylor, basically the whole team but should have been Engels/McCowan, Trusty and Valle from the start. Also just don't buy the were enough points in front chat to walk about in an old firm game, it's 17 points instead of 11 enough motivation right there.
Nasty outfit from top to bottom is Sevco.