Forward Facing Sonar- Where Does It END? - MLF Stage 2 Santee Cooper (podcast)
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2024
- We cover a hot topic in this MLF Stage 2 Santee Cooper podcast. Forward-facing sonar. Some of our opinions may surprise you in this one. Sit back and kick it with us as we discuss the topics of the day.
**NEW?!?! SUBSCRIBE TO DC FISHING: bit.ly/dcfishing
DC Fishing Apparel: bit.ly/DCFishingMerch
↪ Add me on Social Media↩
» Instagram: bit.ly/IGdcfishing
» Facebook: bit.ly/FBdcfishing
» Twitter: bit.ly/TweetDCFishing
↪ My Website: bit.ly/DCWebPage
↪ My Other Channel: bit.ly/ReelSmallTown
__________________________________________
↪ My Gear ↩
Rapala - bit.ly/CrushCity
Favorite Rods - bit.ly/DCFavoriteRods
Seaguar - bit.ly/seaguarline
Realtree - bit.ly/Realtreestore
__________________________________________
↪ Other Channels ↩
Jacob Wheeler - bit.ly/3d1EHuU
Mark Daniels Jr - bit.ly/3fXXj0v
Adrian Avena - bit.ly/39Q9Q2c
__________________________________________
↪ My Camera Gear ↩
Camera: a.co/d/7dHnv2i
Camera Mic: a.co/d/j2E3852
Wireless Mic: a.co/d/60tLGoU
DJI Camera: a.co/d/9CjpxF2
Drone: amzn.to/3f9HEJ3
amazon associate links
__________________________________________
Video Produced & Edited by Brett Burkes
» Instagram: bit.ly/BontheGram
__________________________________________
Forward Facing Sonar- Where Does It END? - MLF Stage 2 Santee Cooper podcast
#dustinconnell #majorleaguefishing #forwardfacingsonar 
Спорт
Fishing was about the mystery and connecting with nature. A way to unplug and be out in nature enjoying it as intended. Forward facing took away the mystery and magic of fishing. Sometimes it’s good to not know everything..
Its different for everyone.... Fishing ALWAYS was and still is for some only about catching FOOD.
Well, your perspective is completely fine, and is also different from a professional fisherman. If you have a piece of technology that would tremendously help you earn more money in your career wouldn’t you chose to use it? But, I will say, I don’t have FFS, but I have used it. I think FFS is pretty awesome and helps us learn more about these fish. But you can still go out on the lake and be very successful catching fish just by knowing about where they are in all parts of the year, their forage, structure, all of that plays into catching a bass. But if you aren’t trying to win money, it’s not all that ethical to have FFS, but it is a great tool to have.
I think they will have to do something. It's affecting the triple A level and co-angler participation in those tournaments. Not too many co-anglers want to sit in the back of the boat while boaters float around in the middle of the lake casting at individual fish they see with FFS.
I don’t disagree, but i see co-angling simply as an opportunity to go learn from the professionals. I’ve fished 2 tournaments as a co-angler and took one spinning rod and one casting rod. If I’m a co, I’m more interested in how the pro breaks down the lake, what areas they’re targeting based on the conditions and why they make the decisions they do. FFS or not, i really don’t care if I “win” as a co.
Scott Martin saw a co-angler with their own portable forward faceing sonar in the back of the boaters boat in the Okichubby toury. It's coming and boaters will not like it and the extra weight it will bring in their boats.
@@AverageTXAnglerI’m not sure I believe you. I’m just saying
@@jimn1968 To each their own!
@@AverageTXAnglerthat’s what guides are for, usually a little cheaper too
You guys fish for a living, I bank fish. I’ll never tell any of you how you should feel or fight with you about an opinion. This was a fun clip. Just know how blessed you guys are and how many of us watch these wishing we were welcome on the casting couch. Good luck fellas.
I’m still amazed people are mad about this. People act like they didn’t used to call electronics
“ fish finders “ and now that we can actually see fish on a very select area that you have to find might i add People are mad. Y’all acting like if you had 10,000 dollar worth of electronics you wouldn’t use it in that tuesday nighter🫠
@@jonnyb1898 it gives people something to complain about I guess. These guys here are living the dream. I know their life isn’t easy and the stress is probably out of this world but they truly do laugh more in one video than I do all month. They just look like their living a great life. I did some tournaments for a few years as a co angler and had a blast. Won a few, lost a lot. But I had a stroke a few years ago and now just take it easy. I’m young and got 5 kids so now I just enjoy bank fishing in my HOA retention ponds here in Florida and watching videos like this. Have a good day bud.
Bass thumb straight out the WOMB 😂☠️ bro yall kill me
The best set of guys to talk a FFS. I love that you guys support each and great friendships. Let no one or nothing break up this awesome team and friendships.
That was one of the best Casting Couches I’ve ever watched 😮🤣🤣 But great answers and love seeing all y’all talk it out. Jacob is the man of reason and wisdom. DC is all fired up🔥🔥🔥
Let’s go MDJ talk about it here out West! Nothing but mad respect for you coming from out West and making the dream come true 👊 Keep it up fellas, such great content as always. My favorite on the tube for sure 🤙
Haven't watched yet but had a though this week... pro golfers have caddies but don't use electronic range finders...there's a line that could be drawn
I think it was Rick clunn who said they invented a gold ball that would go 40% further but they banned it because then all the old records would be blown instantly. I don't see them banning ffs because these companies are making bank off of them, and sponsoring the pros to use them.
Very good point
Man don’t worry about that DC… you can’t bore most of us. I’m in class right now, y’all Boyz keep teaching! 👍🏽
I think FFS is a wonderful tool but I do not believe it belongs in pro tournaments. Practice with it all you want but it must be off on tournament day. How about just some old school knowledge. You can practice and mark areas but in a tournament, knowledge should allow you to either find fish at your mark or figure out the movement. But I would like to see a reduction in available graphs that can be used on a boat during a tournament event. Also a size limit to keep the TV screens off the front of the boats.
Love this podcast DC!! Keepem coming
Keep these podcast coming. I could listen to y'all talk bass fishing for days. Who cares what anyone thinks about FFS. Yall can catch them with or without it. All that matters is yall out there doing what you love and im still a fan either way.
“That casting couch” 😂😂 good luck to all yall fellas. 4 straight G’s!!
Always look foward to yall posting me and my boys been learning alot from yall
It’s a blessing watching you guys. Blessings to ya’ll!
Very fun and informative ! Really enjoyed the honest talk ! 👍👍
I like it. I watch mlf live to watch yal reel em in. I ain’t got it but im watching a learning for when I do get it
Nice first round at Santee today
...watched score tracker..keep up the momentum for Thursday
Keep it it reel coming making a come back👀 so hyped
Casting couch excellent name DC, this was very informative. As a bank fisherman you really got me thinking of what I need to do. You talked about over pressured banks, fish seeing lures nonstop. Don't have electronics but need to search for the fish out in the middle, got start thinking outside the box. Got start look for those ones wondering around lakes and ponds away from shore. All the best @ Santee Guys
Words from the wise! Can't beat listening to yall fellas talk about fishing.
Casting couch! Love it! Just don't talk about anise oil...LOL! Good luck this weekend guys!
DC saying casting couch and immediately knowing what was going to be said in the comments 😂
Great topic gents. From a guy who didnt start fishing till mid 50 and now retired on fixed budget. FFS is here.... i have a 18ft boat with first gen garmin livescope and 9" screen. It isnt as easy as you boys make it look i will say that for sure. Can see where the bigger screens and newer transducer with clean power and higher voltage helps but until i can figure it out with my earlier version i believe i havent learned enough about the fish behavior yet to spend the money. Its here and those that are blessed to have it enjoy it. Its not the end of the world though. I still catch fish sight fishing and still love to pitch, flip and power fish to catch em. Good luck to you all this year
"Speed" LOL from Heavyweights the movie!!!! I love that you and I are the same age DC. The demographic is me brother!
DC You are the man! Love your thought process!!
Y’all can’t see it from a weekend warrior’s perspective? We don’t watch MLF or BASS live to watch 50 of the best pros in the world stare at their screens for 8 hours. I think live viewership will continue to drop because of it.
We are not against FFS per se but rather how it’s caused watching tournaments to be unwatchable.
Remove live scope it’s ruining fishing and tributaries all over the us
If you were fishing for 100 grand you would use it to. Viewership doesn’t matter to the pros. I agree it makes it hard to watch but it’s the future of the sport.
What's the difference between watching someone stare at the screen all day vrs watching KVD sit in the middle of the lake throwing a crankbait on a ledge all day long?
@@shanefloyd2317 it's the same
I don't think people realize how much knowledge and time goes into being on top of the game. Good luck to all of you guys. Love the videos. Much better that the stupid shows on TV. Fish on.
This IS GREAT content! Love seeing the crew together!! I bet TZ is hate watching!!!
Love the podcast. Thank you for shouting out Kentucky Lake at the end as it’s my home lake it’s slowly coming back to what it once was
carp situation getting better?
@@nchen09yeah some There’s still a lot tho
Great video tonight, shout out to the camera man. You know what's up Brent. Keep it going you are doing a Great Job. The topics tonight where Awesome. There's always 2 side's of every catch 5 an weight them all over 2 lbs an release them.
Love when these guys are together so entertaining
Love the vlogs! Watch em all! Good take off so far
Next thing I can see is wearing a helmet similar to jet pilots that where you look you can see the fish under water.
Great job guys!!!
Listen, you know I love all 4 of you guys. I watch all the videos all of you guys put out there. You guys make your living doing this. I told that to Mark in one of his videos. You have to use whatever tools are out there to give you a chance to get into the MONEY to feed your families etc. You do what you have to do. PERIOD. LOVE ALL OF YOU.
The #1 issue with forward facing sonar is it creates a “pay to play” sport. The average fisherman can’t afford a $2-3k unit to keep up.
That may be the best comment I’ve seen or heard on the whole FFS controversy!!!! 👍👍👍
So wrong. If you can afford a $75K bass boat you can afford FFS. Hell a decent rod and reel combo is going to run $500 and you always need a few on the boat to hit a pattern with efficiency. Even a cheap 17 footer bass boat will run $25K and that is without navigation and other upgrades. The whole sport is expensive. If you can't afford a $3k unit then you certainly can't afford to even fuel a bass or do yearly maintenance on it. This isn't bank fishing
Great podcast. Love this content.
I am 51 years old and fishing has been a real part of my life since I was 3 years old. I would pond fish with my dad until I was around 20. I would bass fish for awhile then it was time to catch some bream to bring home and eat. Once I was old enough to bait my own hook and take the fish of my dad made me fish away from him and find my own fish. That was the best thing to happen to me. To be out in nature and find your own fish, just you against the fish. Around age 20 I started fishing at the city lakes. I had a trolling motor, battery, and a portable depth finder. I have never been one to use the depth finder to locate off shore fish. I love to fish shallow and throw at objects I can see. I do use the depth finder to find slightly deeper water. If you are in the back water and it is mainly 2 ft or less and you find some water, a ditch that is 4- 6 ft you may have for something special. I also look at water temp especially in the cold water months. That being said I do admire people who are able to find off shore areas and catch fish consistently. That is a skill. I don't believe live scope is the same though. Using sonar to locate areas that have fish , finding humps and creek channel bends with cover is not the same as forward facing sonar. This ffs is finding a fish and watching it while you present a lure and watch it react. Once you caught it you know to move on to another fish. There is no instinct as was once needed. Not the same as when there was no sonar. I don't care if you use ffs you can do what you want. I have noticed there are 2 types of fishermen. There is the one who loves the connection you get with nature from finding and catching fish, the sense of accomplishment from figuring it out and the love of the chase. Then there is the one who loves catching the fish and competing in a competition. They don't care if they are the one who finds the fish and figures it out for themselves. They would be fine if they were told where to go, what to through, and they are ok with watching it on a screen in order to catch the fish. I don't care because I can only live my life. I will not trade the excitement that comes from pitching a jig next to a stump in a row of stumps not knowing if I will catch 1 or 10 fish for anything. Not knowing or seeing what is about to happen is the joy of fishing to me. You all remember a time when you were fishing and didn't know what was going to happen when you cast by that stump, only to see your line jump or swim off. The excitement to set the hook on a fish that could be the fish of a lifetime was the whole purpose of fishing. Now a whole generation of kids will grow up with ffs and will not have that as their memory. Is ffs worth taking that away from the children? Would you give up all the fishing experiences you had with no ffs to only know what is like to have ffs? I will continue to fish with the excitement of not knowing what is going to happen on each and every cast. That is the path I chose and I would chose that for every kid so they took could have the love of fishing and not just the love of catching to compete. Thanks
I can see your point and agree but I don't think the majority of kids will use ffs right away. However, I spoke with a Garmin Rep recently and he explained how excited his son gets when he sees fish in perspective mode and he talked about the joy his son got from catching them. I think it's all about what makes you happy as you said.
Im all about it. But...... for people that want to compete at local tournaments its hard because there are alot of guys that can afford it and win these tournaments. I hope one day i can afford live scope. Will definitely help me compete and learn more about the way bass move and act. Love this couch talk. Was the best.
enjoyed the show guy's !!! Good Luck tomorrow.
Great content, fellas.
Bass needs to catch and release
Awesome what you said as an angler....." you never stop learning " ! That's the truth bruh! I have been fishing since I was in diapers haha, and I learn something about fishing all the time. A buddy told me one time that once you learn everything about fishing it's time to find something else. But you never do cuz you are always learning something new! This is a fun podcast to watch. Keep it up boys!
Randy will have the camera rolling all night after this one...😂
I was gonna say the same thing.. cant wait for randy to have another video now talking crap about these guys.. hes all washed up just trying to get views
@@andrewjackson8401 to be fair, he does NOT trash other fisherman... just the technology. He has some valid points as a couple of these guys did just agree with.
@@macdaddyblues1he does trash them all the time. Spotlighter!! Umbilical cord attached to them!! Etc... he puts them down all the time.
@@Benwtradarchery not by name! geez
@@macdaddyblues1 to me, imo, if you are calling people cheaters that use it in tournaments, it's just like calling them out by name. imo
I've listened to each side of the controversy and what most people forget is that you guys or guys that fish for a living are in a completely different category. I still compete with my 2D and 360, in local events, because It's my style of fishing and I've used my techniques for 35 years. Sure at times I get beat with a scope, but it's the evolution of technology and none of the complaints will stop it. I chose not to scope, but I also know I need to upgrade and spend time using it to fit my style. You guys are all class acts and I enjoy watching each of you, so keep on keepin on 👍
All of you are spot on. they're not going to jump in the boat. But livescope has helped us catching and finding the fish
I'm not a "hater", but I think there needs to be limits on technology.
DC i am not a Bass Guy, i am a SaltWater Guy. But i love watching you Guys. thanks for the House discussion!! Roll Tide!!
this was a great discussion to listen to. perfect generation of anglers to have this debate IMO
Mark, Like I told you in your video and now with the other guys, if you are going to make a living bass fishing, you need all the tools available. Good video DC.
What a great video with some amazing fishermen.
This is a awesome discussion... embrace technology!
I couldn't even begin to tell you how many hours I've burnt up chasing fish around on Toledo Bend and Sam Rayburn learning how to use Livescope and not catching crap. It's not even remotely close to as simple as some people make it out to be to Livescope fish but it's definitely unlocked more of Toledo Bend. Just watching yall on my home lake confirmed I still have a lot to learn because yall caught fish in places I never even thought of looking at. Great video as always guys keepem coming!!!
I’m going to agree with wheeler and add that I think the only reason it’s become the firestorm that it is , is strictly due to social media. Back in the day when new technology came out it didn’t spread as quickly as things do now.
There's a difference in technology & cheating technology
@@andybales7318 "cheating" is a subjective term, unless there are rules that specifically forbid something.
Remember you guys are the ONLY tournament bass guys that release fish.... some lakes have over 200 boats every weekend...200+.... live well fish don't survive long term.... I'd like to see who can win without FFS .... you guys are my favorite pros and always watch all four of ya... your guys are the best
Fantastic discussion!
Great insights!
Awesome show. Keep up the Casting Couch
These talks are great! 🔥
Not quite the casting couch I was looking for but pleasantly surprised 🤷🏻♂️
West coast guy here out of Vegas. Won bass teamed up with bass recently to help qualify for the bass nation Championship and opportunity to qualify for the classic.
I am a California fisherman, I fish mutiple species, I do not regularly watch fishing on TV or other ways. What has got me interested in watching tournament fishing again is these four gentlemen, they put out content that is fun to watch and they are successful in this profession. I started or found DC's vid's on here, then branched out to the other gentlemen through his utube site. Their coverage and production of their uploads is personal / professionaly produced, it has reignighted my interest in watching MLF again. All of you gentlement keep doing what your doing and I know I will keep watching and tracking your products, FFS like all of you talked about is a tool and should be used that way (I agree you can see them, but, you still have to catch them (that takes skill period)).
Great video DC
Excellent cast. I've always felt FFS was pushing it as far as technology goes. This podcast has made me definitely understand where you guys are coming from. In anyone's profession, you use the tool(s) that make your job easier. So use a dag blasted rc submarine if you have to and keep all 4 of you great roomies in the top 10 in every tournament. And finally, I was initially against the every fish counts format. I only follow you four guys and Scott Martin. Watch the Elites catch a few fish, watch MLF guys catch lots of fish? I'm choosing the MLF format. All of you are true ambassadors to this sport and I hope 1 of y'all wins every tournament. It's MDJ's turn, go hoist that trophy Mark.
Joke about bass thumbs 😅 omg, loved that one 😂
Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴 guys ✌️
I love it, love watching the guys use it and I love watching the tournament guys use them. Here is a way to look at the whole "spot lighting" analogy. If you were using a rifle, and your bullet flew at a 20 degree variance. Would you trust you'll hit the target? In other words somewhere within a 20 degree is your target, do you take the shot? The answer should be no way in the world should you take that shot because you can't swear you'll hit the target. Just because you have it, your not shining a flashlight directly at them. They just happen to be in the beam.
Yal guys are so straight up so real love it man ffs is awesome
You’re my favorite RUclipsr
Oh yeah, and I wanna see the pros go out in high wind and bad storms. That was the best in the old tournament footage.
I love your take on it DC. Just because you have it doesn’t mean you’re going to smash them. You need to know what’s going on as well as how to use your tools.
I have been set against FFS for years. Last year I got back into tournament fishing. And to be competitive I had to buy it. And the learning curve is unreal. I still am learning in fact I caught my first FFS fish today. And I’m 63 years old.
I still have multiple yellow Skeet rods... The first time I used a chatter bait. I snapped my line and grabbed it. That braid sawed a cut in my finger and I still have the scar. So it's kinda hard to forget.
Title your video, “The Casting Couch!”, you’ll get a whole different demographic tuning in.😂 Great to hear you guys pay respect to your heroes in the sport and those that help build the sport. I appreciate that you all are humble enough to admit that you’re still taken back when they acknowledge and talk with you.
I remember that bassmaster video.. I can't even count how many times I have watched it.
Really enjoyed the casting couch 😂.
What happen Sizzle is not eating anything. Great show guys. Always entertaining would love to spend a week in the same house would be fun. Thanks and good luck to all the DING Crew
Funny when I had a paper graph in the 80's some thought I was cheating lol. Jacob I'm in Cali catch lots of 10 plus, those bigs totally feel it, totally. I use to drift scan them and they would move. Great show.
You guys are real and I enjoy h
Listening to the truth
It def can’t go anywhere but it would be cool to see maybe a few tournaments where they can’t use it, just to mix things up
Hey DC. Love you guys and use what ever you want to get it done! My question is do you think the lakes can sustain the fish ? Maybe not bass because it’s mostly catch and release. I remember back in the day only a few crappie guys fishing in the winter here in Missouri but now there’s tons of guys catching limits in a couple hours. The guides are even taking 2 or 3 groups out in a day instead of 1 trip. State Paddle fish records are being broken every week. Like I said I have no problem with it but just like you alls opinion on it. Keep them coming partner and best of luck this season!
Outstanding guys good luck god bless Milton
West Coast does suck for fishing tournaments. But I gotta say, the heavily pressured lakes that we do have out here have trained me very well. I went to Minnesota a couple years back and was slaying bass left and right from the shore next to local anglers who were only catching one here and there.
Guys I really appreciate yall talking this subject publicly…..I can tell you with 100% accuracy that bass at Lewis Smith will absolutely bolt when they feel that beam. Same thing at Chic in Tennessee!!!! FFS is here to stay so everybody needs to just embrace it and move on. Keep crackin em boyz, really enjoy watching how you all.
White works good around the east coast a small willow leaf spinner bait works great too with a small Grey shad on it 😉 😎
Next is Apple vision pros live view you can see the fish all over the lake and pull up yearly migrations patterns for every lake using A.I @DC fishing
No joking..this where it's headed! I tell people all time,
'fishing no longer is a poor man's game'
Love these conversations . Fish on. How would it be if you were limited on lures by weight like they were in the old bass master classics?
Being a Clear Lake local it’s fun bumping into Skeet and Ish Monroe from time to time. Had Ish roll up where I was struggling and just smash them in front of me on the good old yellow/blk frog
That was a great discussion re the box. I don't own one and not sure I will buy one as I am not a tournament fisherman.. but if I was, no way I could not have one. Its about the only way to be competitive.
Good stuff
Yo Cizzle, you live pokin fur dem megaladon teef? Haha, love the content bud
Glad to see you boys looking at it from both angles. Now you mentioned the lake retirement home on Kentucky my question for y’all is if you were picking your top 4 lakes in Alabama to build a retirement home where would it be? Think about hospitals and shopping as well as fishing.
Answer that question for me big dog!!
We’ve been using aqua view through the ice in Minnesota since early 90’s.
MDJ got it on the head for West anglers travelling. I live on the Columbia River in Washington, and Lake Havasu, AZ is 16+ hours straight driving, the Cali Delta is 14+, Clear Lake, CA is 12.5, Lake Mead is 14, Shasta CA is 9 hours, Lake Powell is 14. It's rough to drive to all those Toyota Series or any of the other trail. I'd love a couple BFL divisions here, a Northwest and Southwest would be great!
Nice Running into you today Mark, (orange Wrapped Boat)
MDJ, your comment about Scott at Big O . . . He was using perspective mode to locate specific structure ( holes in the reeds, etc.). He wasn't riding around scoping fish. He spent the majority of his time fan casting to areas. This is what he said on Bassmaster.
I think the pros exactly like you all are going to figure out a lot more with ff. I think there is a combination of old school along with ff that might not have been figured out yet. I might be wrong but I have a feeling there is something else that can be put together no one has figured out yet. I don’t know exactly what I am trying to verbalize but I truly believe there’s a piece of the puzzle still left out there.
@32:40 MDJ speaks the truth. with FFS, seeing I can do, catching not so much yet. I will be right back I have to go to Cabela's, Academy, Bass Pro because I have the wrong baits.... 🤣
Gotta have it in the local derbs this year. We dropping 25lbs on Tuesday night weather you like it or not big homie lol
Guys, I love sessions like this. This is awesome. I would fit perfect in this house. Let’s freaking go, gotomidy , Ding
Aqua view been around since the early 2000’s,i know a guy that had one he used for stripers,it was a black and white screen,pretty cool back in the day