You think this is savage. You should see the Stellaris, Neutron Sweeper. It specifically kills every living organic being on a planet (imagine doing that to a system) without harming buildings, infrastructure, landscape, etc. Leaving it ripe for full-recolonization efforts for your star-nation. Also leaves no dust or ash of previous residents. Sidenote: So apparently it can destroy machines too, their circuits got fried by heavy levels of neutrons.
And what's worse, it takes days to complete it. So someone on the other side of the planet from the place the NS hit can get word of it and just...wait for it. Knowing there's going to be NO TRACE of them even existing.
I'd rather trap them on their world. Then, watch them suffer as they run out of resources, and start killing each other. The Pacifist way will force you to regret your hostile ways. If you attack us that is.
When they say Orbital Bombardment, it made me think of Admiral Ozzle screwing up. I bet Vader was about to have a kick out of bombing the crap out of the Rebels only to realizing Ozzle constipated him.
I grieve for the imperial era OG Battlefront campaigns on Kamino. Featuring the coolest Darktroopers that were never made into action figures. A travesty
The ability to bombard a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force . I've seen some orbital bombardment during the clone wars, but it pales in comparison what Nihilus was capable
Honestly speaking, if you were to attain the maximum possible mastery of the Force possible, you'd truly be a God. I mean... the force is literally everywhere, inside you, around you, in space... everywhere. If you were powerful enough... nobody in the universe would survive if you decided to use the full might of the Force and make every single being in the universe die a horrible death by getting shredded by the Force around them and inside them. Rebellious planet? From the comfort of your own house, you use the Force located a few dozen lightyears away and blow up the entire planet.
I absolutely agree orbital bombardment is way scarier than the Death Star, the DS just has a flash and you’re gone, but bombardment is terrifying you’d be standing there watching as death rained from the sky, you’d see the debris rising across the horizon, the ground would shake constantly, the heat would be enough that your breath would roast u inside out, there would be no way out, and you’d die with the knowledge that this wasn’t even a big deal to the people who destroyed you
"We're going to face them with an enemy they've never had the displeasure of fighting. We're going to hit them with the Empire." "They're not going to like the Empire." ―Wedge Antilles and Tycho Celchu on Operation Emperor's Hammer using the Lusankya to orbitally bombard Borleias during the Yuuzhan Vong War
Another way of looking at this is why is it people are afraid to blow up a big astroid and would rather the large piece hit than a whole bunch of the rock hitting earth
You should cover the Clone Wars battle of Honoghr in Legends since it greatly impacted the Noghri for the Thrawn Campaign. Or what is known about the battle of Wayland/Weyland during the Clone Wars in Legends. Anyway, keep up the great content!
A while back, I watch Rebels for the very first tine and there was a line that went over my head. It was very quick and very easy to miss but it was about how the Empire "liberated" a planet through the use of a Base Delta Zero. And then I found this channel and learned so much. After I watch Rebels a secobd time, that line I didn't get had a lot darkness behind it afterwards because the Empire justified it
Yeah dying swiftly is much preferred to dying after a long and agonizing period of pain or after listening to the screams of agony as your friends and family die around you among many other horrifying scenarios
I like how no one else uses orbital bombardment. The alliance could’ve used this to target imperial garrisons, based or fortifications. Then flee. It’s precise targeting for any armed warships.
@@neofulcrum5013 Yes, just like we don't use nukes in every battle. Plus hard to gain support when you are bombing the worlds of people who you are trying to gain the support of.
It's like you don't understand that the rebels couldn't afford to piss off the people of the galaxy... you know, the population where they got their recruits. They weren't a state or a traditional military. There were rebel sympathizing planets, yes, but even these were still under the control of the Empire. It's not as if the Alliance could've instituted a draft.
Fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate and rebellion. The doctrine of the Dark Side of the Force and the Sith only comes back to haunt the Galactic Empire and became their doom.
One other notable case: Carnor Jax used the orbital bombardment of the Rebel base on Phaeda to break the resistance of Mirith Sinn and get her to tell where Kir Kanos had gone.
In the novilisation of rogue one there is a wonderful section a memo by tarkin to krennic about the death star its purpose and how it was intended to be used .
Your videos are always so interesting and fun to watch I absolutely love Star Wars lore and you’re able to bring such specific and lesser known lore to light it’s awesome
The reason the Death Star is so terrifying compared to a fleet of SDs is because it could erase a planet instantly THROUGH it's planetary shields. Alderaan had such shields after all. The basic premise of the Death Star is a planet killer upgrade to the Torpedo Sphere, a kilometer wide sphere designed to crack planetary shields.
@@michaelandreipalon359 I'll take some of that action. 250 Credits and a crate of meat that the creators of the Droideka like, on him getting killed in the season 2 finale, shot in the head by Crosshair as one of his first good acts on his way to redemption.
Once the Empire is reduced to just the small Imperial remnants there and there, I wonder how they will feel about the news about the Empire's notorious actions in the past are being broadcasted across the galaxy by the Third Republic. Apparently, not all of them seemed are willing to acknowledge that or they acknowledged it but deemed them necessary sacrifices that were needed to be made for the sake of the galaxy as a whole. For some others, they abandoned the cause of whatever left of the Empire and joined the Third Republic.
In real life, fear actually works. They call Afghanistan the graveyard of empires, but the Mongol Empire suceeded in pacifying them (the area that is now Afghanistan) by being brutal Palpatine style. The tribes submitted to him after that, and didn't rebel until a few generations later, when the Mongols began to decline.
The weapons used in the destruction of Kamino are absolutely NOT the 2 medium batteries listed in Incredible Cross Sections. Those are single turbolasers on a different part of the ship. These are probably in the category of the smaller guns that Incredible Cross Sections listed.
Base Delta Zero was invented by the republic. The earliest republic capital ships (Acclamator Assault ships) were capable of bombarding a planet and the fleet was already prepared for BDZ orders as soon as TCW started. Makes you think different about the good ol' republic.
500 billions is a rather small population for a hive world. The biggest hive worlds should clock in at about 2 trillions citizens... Here you go, some sick numbers for ya.
theres a slim chance to get away during a bombardment a death star strike, the planet is gone in an instant and even being a good distance away from it already will still be dangerous
even in 40K the spaceships are weaker then realistic, if a spaceship could travel between planets with such ease, it should be able to destroy them with such ease. Every. Individual. Spaceship. In a super realistic sci fi with just ships that can travel at 10% the speed of light would have weaponry to annihalate the surface of planets.
@@Po1lux That's Isaac Asimov. He's an sci-fi author. I'm talking about Isaac Arthur, who's a youtuber who breaks down futurism and realistic ways we can obtain it. I recommend his channel if you haven't known about it already.
@@mill2712 oh my bad. It's been very long since I've seen an Isaac Arthur video so I kind have forgot about him. I think I was also getting Arthur C Clark mixed in my head at the same time, since I'm not very familiar with Arthur C Clarks works, but I've read Isaac Asimov's foundation.
Thing about a Base Delta Zero.. is that an assaulting Rebel force that meant TO FIGHT them to the Death... as was the case in the Death Star... its WAY easier to turn the tables on and defeat a small fleet of Standard battleships then a moon sized Superweapon. At least a battlegroup of SDs takes TIME to implement the tactic an can be mitigated an IF enough reinforcements can be brought in in time in some cases then the tactic could then ACTUALLY become risky.. Its not a tactic we see used on military bases alot the time. Least not in the Empire v Rebels era. When apparently it switched to WMDs
I’ve been rewatching Rebels with my wife, she had never seen any SW animation so we’ve been working through the movies and various series, such as TCW and Bad Batch. While watching one of the early episodes a couple days ago I caught something I missed when I first watched it, the episode was the first time they were listening to the Rebel Senator or Governor, that would break into imperial transmissions. When the empire’s news broadcast resumed it said “several systems had recently been freed from Rebel occupation by the Empire’s new base delta zero initiative.”
An imperial-class star destroyer could lay down almost it's ENTIRE reactor output via it's heavy turbolasers. It would make a tsar bomba look like a toy. Sad we never really get to see how terrifying just one can be. It would take like a few mins to turn an entire continent into a wasteland.
Actually, when I clicked this video I was thinking of Taris and how it fared in Kotor, but yeah, Tipoca city sinking into the ocean was pretty heart wrenching.
The worst thing about an orbital bombardment on earth is the fact that you know you're girlfriend that lives in California is breathing their last breath as you watch the star destroyers crest the mountains over Denver. Then you hopelessly realize your next. Its really a slow and painful process, both psychologically and physically.
Rebels: "Hurr Durr, Stormtroopers miss." Imperial Navy: Well, we don't so, (Entire content the Rebels were on is scorched) Stormtrooper: Thanks man. Imperial Navy: No problem. Long Live the Empire.
“Got a planet rebelling? Glass it.” “Need space on a planet to build a factory? Glass it.” “Can’t take out some rebels? Glass it.” “Sarlac pits on Umbara? Death Star it.”
Even tho I’m an absolutely extremely huge fan of the clone wars and clone wars era, I actually didn’t feel any type of way seeing Tapoca city getting blown up, only thing I was sad about was that it meant the season is over
2:02 Excellent example of a ginormous turbo ,aser barely destroying the area if a small house, when a weaker turbo laser would destroy an "entire town"
The turbo laser fire from an Imperial star destroyer at full power could destroy Hawaii in just one shot. If you have a capital ship with powerful guns that can destroy entire cities in the blink of an eye, it makes you wonder what happens if they decide to do that to a whole planet.
The Orbital Bombardment showed in Rebels was fucking joke, like these lasers were landing too close to Kanan and it was like grenade explosion... not even scratching him... On the other hand, the bombardment of Kamino with Venotars, that's how it should be, tearing entire buildings down.
Especially savage when you remember the Impirerial navy was not glassing a foreing state at war, but entire worlds they where meant to protect and serve as a military
All I can think of when someone mentions orbital bombardment is that one scene in Rebels where the Imperial Holonet says that "Another planet liberated using the Base Delta Zero protocol"
1:30 and again they disregard that even a light bombardment would be nearly 100 turbolasers, as the heavy ones and the 2 "medium" ones aint the only ones onboard a 1100 meter vessel, firing together.... is it the money that is preventing it? Budge can be harsh and lower what actualy should be displayed CONSTANTLY, but so is a lack in proper tech to show it (Empire at war for example.. even the best mods featuring the Dreadnoughts cant show their true 100% armament comming to bear as ressorces of hard and software are LIMITED)
Star Wars Legends/EU version: "We have arrived, and it is now that we fulfill our charge. In fealty to Emperor Sheev Palpatine, (our Scared Lord) and by the grace of the Galactic Empire, I declare Base Delta Zero upon the Imperial World of (incert name here). I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world, and consign a million plus souls to the Force. May Imperial justice account in all records. The Emperor protects." Warhammer 40k version: "We have arrived, and it is now that we fulfill our charge. In fealty to the Emperor, (our Undying Lord) I declare exterminatus upon the Imperial world of Typhon Primaris. I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world, and consign a million souls to oblivion. May Imperial justice account in all balance. The Emperor protects."
@@zacharybare6967 *"Precisely. Not all of us are so barbaric. This type of behavior is something I'd expect from a race like the Nords, truly reprehensible culture that revels in warmongering and bloodlust. I only hope to quell the actions of some of my peers against our Bosmer cousins, as I myself don't condone the Cullings in Valenwood... certainly not what Queen Ayrenn would've wanted."*
A million no Hiroshima and Nagasaki was around 200 thousand. The entire airwar . Was a lot more than a million. Millions to be accurate. But the British killed as many germans in Frankfurt and Dresden as American did . The difference was thousands of incendiary bombs vs two bombs. ( plus radiation) but the firestorms in Dresden sound as bad or worse. And lasted hours rather than seconds. ( excluding the aftermath) more Japanese died after the bombings from radiation in the rain water . And the wind .
its quite suprising that orbital bombardment wasent mentioned more in the starwars legend books, i have read a multiple of the books (not the x-wing series yet so maybe its more in those books?) and it defenitly not mentioned a lot
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm still grieving over the destruction of Alderaan. If you've ever played the MMO: Star Wars the Old Republic, then you might understand why. Alderaan is portrayed as an absolutely beautiful world with rich and ancient history. After having explored the entire map of the planet in-game, you really start to realize just how tragic its eventual destruction would have actually been...
Also, the music that plays in the game while you're on Alderaan, slowly shifts from a somewhat regal, medieval style, to a ominous and foreboding tone, hinting at its eventual, dark fate...
Base Delta Zero was not a complete Orbital Bombardment, it was a targeted one where a specified couple mile square area would be utterly disintegrated.
....Uh, what? That's...the literal, exact opposite of what a BDZ is. The entire fundamental basis and point of it, at least in Legends, was the complete and total destruction of ALL usable resources and assets on a planets surface, ranging from populations, mines, seas, and so on. Destroying a small section of a planet is simply an orbital bombardment. Legends went to great lengths to empathize that BDZ's have a very narrow, specific, unchanging definition.
Falleen was another planet Vader slaughtered a lot of people on via orbital bombardment, but at least he didn't do it out of spite, but to contain a biological experiment that broke containment (sure: A shitty justification - unless said bio-experiment would have killed far more, Vader was cruel sure, but not to the extent of Tarkin who used such tactics on a whim!) ps: Compared to many other scifi-universes the empires tactics and weapons seem quite benign...from the Imperium of Men (Warhammer 40K), to Stellaris (where you can use some pretty devastating weapons!), to stuff like Perry Rhodan (German science fiction series running since the 60's (!) - which has a ton of planet-/system-killers, like say an Arkon-Bomb, which burns away an entire world, till there is nothing left! Once used only cutting the fire out (and only at the start, once it has spread over a wide area that is next to impossible!)) etc. - Planetary bombardment is only scary because it takes a long time and you might actually survive it, while many of your friends, family etc. might not!)
Wait, we loved the Kaminoan cloning cities? Where they pumped out slave soldiers by the millions and carried out ruthless genetic manipulation? Err, okay then.
Exterminatus goes beyond simple orbital bombardment. Orbital bombardment is mostly carried out with low energy lance fire (the basic ship to ship energy weapon) because at full power the impacts are hard enought to make the planet tectonical unstable "terraforming" the planet into a volcanic hell or breaking into pieces(and getting back into exterminatus) Though that option is used for exterminatus if you have time or only "small" ships/no designatet exterminatus weapons. Another flavor for orbital bombardment is the use of Melta torpedos to turn cities,armies,bunkers or whatever you want gone into slack More common is virus bombing and cyclonic torpedos or for pesky already lifeless worlds two stage cyclonic missles. In many cases though orbital bombardment is only used in the beginning of a planetary assault because shield systems will protect stategic targets from anything short of exterminatus and as bonkers as 40k humanity is they like to keep planets if possible
Being called ‘barbaric’ by a rebel sympathizer means nothing. Barbarians are those who live in lesser societies. The Empire is NOT a lesser civilization. The bombardment may have been evil.
Whenever I hear "Orbital Bombardment" I think of the glassing of Reach from Halo or the Mandalorian great purge.
And in the case of the former, they are almost the same
Try to take out the bastion of the blasted human UNSC? Glass 'em.
I think of 40k and their crazy orbital bombardment
Or the Inquisition slapping the Exterminatus button
@@akumaking1 yeah that's really the 1st thing that comes to mind for me haha
You think this is savage. You should see the Stellaris, Neutron Sweeper. It specifically kills every living organic being on a planet (imagine doing that to a system) without harming buildings, infrastructure, landscape, etc. Leaving it ripe for full-recolonization efforts for your star-nation. Also leaves no dust or ash of previous residents.
Sidenote: So apparently it can destroy machines too, their circuits got fried by heavy levels of neutrons.
And what's worse, it takes days to complete it. So someone on the other side of the planet from the place the NS hit can get word of it and just...wait for it. Knowing there's going to be NO TRACE of them even existing.
I'd rather trap them on their world. Then, watch them suffer as they run out of resources, and start killing each other. The Pacifist way will force you to regret your hostile ways. If you attack us that is.
@@jacobsantiago5693 That's another good one
@@jacobsantiago5693 I never even considered that tactic.
@@jacobsantiago5693 yeah, love that weapon, oh, you want me dead, go to your room and f***ing stay there
When they say Orbital Bombardment, it made me think of Admiral Ozzle screwing up. I bet Vader was about to have a kick out of bombing the crap out of the Rebels only to realizing Ozzle constipated him.
What is a fleet of giant warships against the almighty power of plotluck?
H-he felt surprise was the wisest course of action-
*He is as clumsy as he is stupid.*
Geetsly: Sometimes, civilian targets would suffer collateral damage from orbital strikes
Imperial commanders: Collateral?
YIKES
They were probably filthy rebels anyways, why else would they be in a planet that’s a target, burn them all let the Force sort out the ashes
Anyone who runs is a rebel. Anyone who doesn't run, is a well disciplined rebel.
I feel like that’s more of a line that generation tech would say
@@tickticktickBOOOOM EVEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN?!?!
I grieve for the imperial era OG Battlefront campaigns on Kamino. Featuring the coolest Darktroopers that were never made into action figures. A travesty
The ability to bombard a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force . I've seen some orbital bombardment during the clone wars, but it pales in comparison what Nihilus was capable
Honestly speaking, if you were to attain the maximum possible mastery of the Force possible, you'd truly be a God. I mean... the force is literally everywhere, inside you, around you, in space... everywhere. If you were powerful enough... nobody in the universe would survive if you decided to use the full might of the Force and make every single being in the universe die a horrible death by getting shredded by the Force around them and inside them.
Rebellious planet? From the comfort of your own house, you use the Force located a few dozen lightyears away and blow up the entire planet.
@@alzhanvoid yes
I absolutely agree orbital bombardment is way scarier than the Death Star, the DS just has a flash and you’re gone, but bombardment is terrifying you’d be standing there watching as death rained from the sky, you’d see the debris rising across the horizon, the ground would shake constantly, the heat would be enough that your breath would roast u inside out, there would be no way out, and you’d die with the knowledge that this wasn’t even a big deal to the people who destroyed you
Damn, wtf😦
😊😊
@@mcshifter4138 I’m terrified of weapons in space. Does it show?
"We're going to face them with an enemy they've never had the displeasure of fighting. We're going to hit them with the Empire."
"They're not going to like the Empire."
―Wedge Antilles and Tycho Celchu on Operation Emperor's Hammer using the Lusankya to orbitally bombard Borleias during the Yuuzhan Vong War
I was just about to comment this...that scene was amazing.
Ah back when star wars was cool and non of this micky mouse crap
Another way of looking at this is why is it people are afraid to blow up a big astroid and would rather the large piece hit than a whole bunch of the rock hitting earth
You should cover the Clone Wars battle of Honoghr in Legends since it greatly impacted the Noghri for the Thrawn Campaign. Or what is known about the battle of Wayland/Weyland during the Clone Wars in Legends. Anyway, keep up the great content!
Or better yet, make a series about Aayla Secura's and Quinlan Vos' Legends adventures.
A while back, I watch Rebels for the very first tine and there was a line that went over my head. It was very quick and very easy to miss but it was about how the Empire "liberated" a planet through the use of a Base Delta Zero. And then I found this channel and learned so much. After I watch Rebels a secobd time, that line I didn't get had a lot darkness behind it afterwards because the Empire justified it
Yeah dying swiftly is much preferred to dying after a long and agonizing period of pain or after listening to the screams of agony as your friends and family die around you among many other horrifying scenarios
I like how no one else uses orbital bombardment. The alliance could’ve used this to target imperial garrisons, based or fortifications. Then flee. It’s precise targeting for any armed warships.
Probably because of their moral high ground.
Some people have morals
@@CoolMyron too moral to attack a legit target with armed enemy troopers?
@@neofulcrum5013 Yes, just like we don't use nukes in every battle. Plus hard to gain support when you are bombing the worlds of people who you are trying to gain the support of.
It's like you don't understand that the rebels couldn't afford to piss off the people of the galaxy... you know, the population where they got their recruits. They weren't a state or a traditional military. There were rebel sympathizing planets, yes, but even these were still under the control of the Empire. It's not as if the Alliance could've instituted a draft.
Fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate and rebellion. The doctrine of the Dark Side of the Force and the Sith only comes back to haunt the Galactic Empire and became their doom.
Just as Trakin intended.
One other notable case: Carnor Jax used the orbital bombardment of the Rebel base on Phaeda to break the resistance of Mirith Sinn and get her to tell where Kir Kanos had gone.
In the novilisation of rogue one there is a wonderful section a memo by tarkin to krennic about the death star its purpose and how it was intended to be used .
Your videos are always so interesting and fun to watch I absolutely love Star Wars lore and you’re able to bring such specific and lesser known lore to light it’s awesome
Yeah I agree so many things in Star Wars I never knew about and he covers them and I always know something new thanks to him
"Imperials destroying entire cities"
Lord Malak about to ruin Taris: Cute.
any Lord Inquisitor of the Imperium: hold my beer
@@interogatorasmodai EXTERMINATUS, because the Emperor is a sore looser.
The destruction of Kamino hurt my soul... It still does. I felt like I grew up with the clones.
I think it’s some what how the Jedi feel when millions die. It hurts emotionally.
I don't. Good riddance
@@scoutman66 agreed, outside fordo, alpha 17 and the commandos (mostly delta and omega squads) I never liked clones or the clone wars anyways
Empire: Glass em!
First Order: Nuke em!
Sith Eternal: Burn em to ash!
The death star would be insant death an orbital bombardment is far more terrifying as you could have a slight chance of surviving
3:41 - *”In the year 2199, Earth was under severe attack from the planet Gamilon.”*
Covenant, Empire, Fire Nation, Imperium, it's all the same when the goal is melting everything into slag ang glass.
the holy imperium of man had every right to glass
@@commandercody2224 And that's not even being ironic. I'd rather the planet die that be Tyranid food, an Ork playground or Chaos' latest sextoy.
@@randomcenturion7264 i was being serious too
"Sargent, are you seeing that planet's surface?"
"I am, General"
"Well, *I don't want to"*
The reason the Death Star is so terrifying compared to a fleet of SDs is because it could erase a planet instantly THROUGH it's planetary shields. Alderaan had such shields after all.
The basic premise of the Death Star is a planet killer upgrade to the Torpedo Sphere, a kilometer wide sphere designed to crack planetary shields.
Adimiral Rampart has got it coming..
"Mandalore"? "The Empire turned that planet into glass" Boba Fett
Ramparts going to pay in blood for what he did to Kamino and unfortunately for him, I don't have any change.
lol.
Yeah he’s gonna regret doing that later on
So, any bets he'll get his just desserts in the next season?
Also, any chance that the Mount Tantiss project isn't actually going to lead up Ep. IX?
The last thing he’ll see is a clone
@@michaelandreipalon359 I'll take some of that action.
250 Credits and a crate of meat that the creators of the Droideka like, on him getting killed in the season 2 finale, shot in the head by Crosshair as one of his first good acts on his way to redemption.
@@zexalbrony4799 Why the Colicoids?
Once the Empire is reduced to just the small Imperial remnants there and there, I wonder how they will feel about the news about the Empire's notorious actions in the past are being broadcasted across the galaxy by the Third Republic. Apparently, not all of them seemed are willing to acknowledge that or they acknowledged it but deemed them necessary sacrifices that were needed to be made for the sake of the galaxy as a whole. For some others, they abandoned the cause of whatever left of the Empire and joined the Third Republic.
They probably just brashed it off as rebel propaganda.
In real life, fear actually works. They call Afghanistan the graveyard of empires, but the Mongol Empire suceeded in pacifying them (the area that is now Afghanistan) by being brutal Palpatine style. The tribes submitted to him after that, and didn't rebel until a few generations later, when the Mongols began to decline.
The weapons used in the destruction of Kamino are absolutely NOT the 2 medium batteries listed in Incredible Cross Sections. Those are single turbolasers on a different part of the ship. These are probably in the category of the smaller guns that Incredible Cross Sections listed.
Base Delta Zero was invented by the republic. The earliest republic capital ships (Acclamator Assault ships) were capable of bombarding a planet and the fleet was already prepared for BDZ orders as soon as TCW started. Makes you think different about the good ol' republic.
Ahhhh some light war crimes for the evening.
The official term is Aggressive Negotiations
That is how the empire rolls
It's not a war crime if you leave no witnesses alive
Humbarine, gets all 500,000,000,000 inhabitants killed in an orbital bombardment.
The average planet from the Imperium: "First time?"
500 billions is a rather small population for a hive world.
The biggest hive worlds should clock in at about 2 trillions citizens...
Here you go, some sick numbers for ya.
I don't know what's better being destroyed by the death Star or being bombarded by Star destroyers from above
If you want to live, the latter.
If you want to die comfortably, the former.
theres a slim chance to get away during a bombardment
a death star strike, the planet is gone in an instant and even being a good distance away from it already will still be dangerous
Nobody tell him about the Imperium’s methods of wiping out planets. He might not make it.
even in 40K the spaceships are weaker then realistic, if a spaceship could travel between planets with such ease, it should be able to destroy them with such ease. Every. Individual. Spaceship. In a super realistic sci fi with just ships that can travel at 10% the speed of light would have weaponry to annihalate the surface of planets.
@@Po1lux
Isaac Arthur fan right? Or you at least know of him?
@@mill2712 Yes I am familiar with Isaac Arthur, but I haven't read many of his books, I need to get a hold of more.
@@Po1lux
That's Isaac Asimov. He's an sci-fi author. I'm talking about Isaac Arthur, who's a youtuber who breaks down futurism and realistic ways we can obtain it. I recommend his channel if you haven't known about it already.
@@mill2712 oh my bad. It's been very long since I've seen an Isaac Arthur video so I kind have forgot about him. I think I was also getting Arthur C Clark mixed in my head at the same time, since I'm not very familiar with Arthur C Clarks works, but I've read Isaac Asimov's foundation.
Thing about a Base Delta Zero.. is that an assaulting Rebel force that meant TO FIGHT them to the Death... as was the case in the Death Star... its WAY easier to turn the tables on and defeat a small fleet of Standard battleships then a moon sized Superweapon.
At least a battlegroup of SDs takes TIME to implement the tactic an can be mitigated an IF enough reinforcements can be brought in in time in some cases then the tactic could then ACTUALLY become risky.. Its not a tactic we see used on military bases alot the time. Least not in the Empire v Rebels era. When apparently it switched to WMDs
I’ve been rewatching Rebels with my wife, she had never seen any SW animation so we’ve been working through the movies and various series, such as TCW and Bad Batch. While watching one of the early episodes a couple days ago I caught something I missed when I first watched it, the episode was the first time they were listening to the Rebel Senator or Governor, that would break into imperial transmissions. When the empire’s news broadcast resumed it said “several systems had recently been freed from Rebel occupation by the Empire’s new base delta zero initiative.”
An imperial-class star destroyer could lay down almost it's ENTIRE reactor output via it's heavy turbolasers. It would make a tsar bomba look like a toy. Sad we never really get to see how terrifying just one can be. It would take like a few mins to turn an entire continent into a wasteland.
Or a large peninsula
Imperium of man in the 40th millennium: That's cute.
What? I don't understand
Actually, when I clicked this video I was thinking of Taris and how it fared in Kotor, but yeah, Tipoca city sinking into the ocean was pretty heart wrenching.
Hey geetslys can you do a video on project war mantle. Love your content btw
The worst thing about an orbital bombardment on earth is the fact that you know you're girlfriend that lives in California is breathing their last breath as you watch the star destroyers crest the mountains over Denver. Then you hopelessly realize your next. Its really a slow and painful process, both psychologically and physically.
Correction: a line in the finale specifically states that all infrastructure on Kamins was destroyed by the bombardment
Rebels: "Hurr Durr, Stormtroopers miss."
Imperial Navy: Well, we don't so, (Entire content the Rebels were on is scorched)
Stormtrooper: Thanks man.
Imperial Navy: No problem. Long Live the Empire.
“Got a planet rebelling? Glass it.”
“Need space on a planet to build a factory? Glass it.”
“Can’t take out some rebels? Glass it.”
“Sarlac pits on Umbara? Death Star it.”
Spacedok basically made this alredy, but he didn't ake this deep of a look, thanks for dooing that instead Geetsly's :).
The sheer irony...When you create the exact problem you look to prevent.
Awesome vid. Thanks for the upload.
No problem 👍
Even tho I’m an absolutely extremely huge fan of the clone wars and clone wars era, I actually didn’t feel any type of way seeing Tapoca city getting blown up, only thing I was sad about was that it meant the season is over
2:02 Excellent example of a ginormous turbo ,aser barely destroying the area if a small house, when a weaker turbo laser would destroy an "entire town"
Well, except for the ever so slight fact the explosion was obviously visible from orbit. Woops.
Great video! I've always wondered why there wasn't more attention to just how deadly an orbital bombardment was!
Tarkin: you may fire when ready.
Orbital Bombardment are also a lot cheaper than a Moon-sized battle station with a giant lightsaber.
This is what happened to Kamino the the final episodes of the Bad Batch’s first season. Rest in Peace Kamino.
Dude, I'm forever grieving for Alderaan!
We needed more Orbital bombardment in Star Wars
Go read legends then, disney canon is all about soft crap and won't allow anything that violent because ya know star wars like marvel is for kids.
The turbo laser fire from an Imperial star destroyer at full power could destroy Hawaii in just one shot. If you have a capital ship with powerful guns that can destroy entire cities in the blink of an eye, it makes you wonder what happens if they decide to do that to a whole planet.
Rubble doesn't give trouble. Glass, even less so.
If you step on them.... is another story. Especially the broken ones.
My first thought on this topic was Malak bombing Taris into toxic dust
The Orbital Bombardment showed in Rebels was fucking joke, like these lasers were landing too close to Kanan and it was like grenade explosion... not even scratching him... On the other hand, the bombardment of Kamino with Venotars, that's how it should be, tearing entire buildings down.
Nice art with the still images
Especially savage when you remember the Impirerial navy was not glassing a foreing state at war, but entire worlds they where meant to protect and serve as a military
Do I greive Kamino...well No.
Do I Greive Alderaan...I think the whole Galaxy does.
All I can think of when someone mentions orbital bombardment is that one scene in Rebels where the Imperial Holonet says that "Another planet liberated using the Base Delta Zero protocol"
1:30 and again they disregard that even a light bombardment would be nearly 100 turbolasers, as the heavy ones and the 2 "medium" ones aint the only ones onboard a 1100 meter vessel, firing together.... is it the money that is preventing it? Budge can be harsh and lower what actualy should be displayed CONSTANTLY, but so is a lack in proper tech to show it (Empire at war for example.. even the best mods featuring the Dreadnoughts cant show their true 100% armament comming to bear as ressorces of hard and software are LIMITED)
Star Wars Legends/EU version: "We have arrived, and it is now that we fulfill our charge. In fealty to Emperor Sheev Palpatine, (our Scared Lord) and by the grace of the Galactic Empire, I declare Base Delta Zero upon the Imperial World of (incert name here). I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world, and consign a million plus souls to the Force. May Imperial justice account in all records. The Emperor protects."
Warhammer 40k version: "We have arrived, and it is now that we fulfill our charge. In fealty to the Emperor, (our Undying Lord) I declare exterminatus upon the Imperial world of Typhon Primaris. I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world, and consign a million souls to oblivion. May Imperial justice account in all balance. The Emperor protects."
Virgin USA: Noooo we killed a million Japanese civilians we will never use this weapon again
Chad Empire: Haha Base Delta Zero go PewPewPew
Didn't know committing mass genocide/Ethnic Cleansings/Holocausts were considered "chad" moves... seems pretty dickish to me
@@thalmoragent9344 You know it's a dick move if even the Thalmor is like lets not
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*"Precisely. Not all of us are so barbaric. This type of behavior is something I'd expect from a race like the Nords, truly reprehensible culture that revels in warmongering and bloodlust. I only hope to quell the actions of some of my peers against our Bosmer cousins, as I myself don't condone the Cullings in Valenwood... certainly not what Queen Ayrenn would've wanted."*
In a way it is kinda woke, no matter the species, sex, culture, age, nothing. these Turbo Lasers are rated E for Extinction *cough* I meant Everyone
A million no Hiroshima and Nagasaki was around 200 thousand. The entire airwar . Was a lot more than a million. Millions to be accurate. But the British killed as many germans in Frankfurt and Dresden as American did . The difference was thousands of incendiary bombs vs two bombs. ( plus radiation) but the firestorms in Dresden sound as bad or worse. And lasted hours rather than seconds. ( excluding the aftermath) more Japanese died after the bombings from radiation in the rain water . And the wind .
When you talk about how terrifying orbital bombardment is in Star Wars don't show clips from Rebels. They made orbital bombardments look like a joke.
Honestly, if the Sith could, they would wipe out all life in the galaxy (including each other), just because it offended them.
Makes the Empire At War’s version look like piddly fireworks.
When the say orbital bombardment, it made me think of malak bombarding taris
“First glassing? Yeah, me too.”
When i hear “orbital bombardment” it reminds me of the orbital strike from battlefront 2
1:58 from which move is that clip?
Civilians? I think the term is Unarmed Combatants.
Tarkin doesn't want death star.
Tarkin gets death star anyway,
Tarkin and the death star:
You forgot about when the new republic used it against the yuzanh vong using the Lusyanka.
The rebels be like “ Remember Alderaan”
its quite suprising that orbital bombardment wasent mentioned more in the starwars legend books, i have read a multiple of the books (not the x-wing series yet so maybe its more in those books?) and it defenitly not mentioned a lot
Orbital bombardment is nice,but I prefer exterminatus instead.
Ah glassing, the prophet of truth is pleased
At least fore when I hear the term, it reminds me of what happened to Taris in Kotor.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm still grieving over the destruction of Alderaan. If you've ever played the MMO: Star Wars the Old Republic, then you might understand why. Alderaan is portrayed as an absolutely beautiful world with rich and ancient history. After having explored the entire map of the planet in-game, you really start to realize just how tragic its eventual destruction would have actually been...
Also, the music that plays in the game while you're on Alderaan, slowly shifts from a somewhat regal, medieval style, to a ominous and foreboding tone, hinting at its eventual, dark fate...
I cant help but to imagine a young prophet of truth playing with a scale model of a destroyer and a ball while doing blaster sounds
kind of like charlie chaplin in "the great dictator"...
@@shaydowsith348 so we're mixing Star Wars, Halo, and Charlie Chaplin? That's an odd combo
When I clicked this video I was just thinking of halo, the covenant glassed a bunch of planets, this is where I first learned this tactic
This type of thing always makes me think of glassing from halo.
I'd use the deathstar to blow up uninhabitable but mineral rich planets so I could mine the asteroid field it creates more effectively
I want to hang out with General Grievous and orbital bombard planets
I really don't care about trillions of people. Cloning facilities, however, have stolen my heart.
Base Delta Zero was not a complete Orbital Bombardment, it was a targeted one where a specified couple mile square area would be utterly disintegrated.
....Uh, what? That's...the literal, exact opposite of what a BDZ is. The entire fundamental basis and point of it, at least in Legends, was the complete and total destruction of ALL usable resources and assets on a planets surface, ranging from populations, mines, seas, and so on. Destroying a small section of a planet is simply an orbital bombardment. Legends went to great lengths to empathize that BDZ's have a very narrow, specific, unchanging definition.
Total destruction breeds absolute enemies.
This video is awwweesoommee
Falleen was another planet Vader slaughtered a lot of people on via orbital bombardment, but at least he didn't do it out of spite, but to contain a biological experiment that broke containment (sure: A shitty justification - unless said bio-experiment would have killed far more, Vader was cruel sure, but not to the extent of Tarkin who used such tactics on a whim!)
ps: Compared to many other scifi-universes the empires tactics and weapons seem quite benign...from the Imperium of Men (Warhammer 40K), to Stellaris (where you can use some pretty devastating weapons!), to stuff like Perry Rhodan (German science fiction series running since the 60's (!) - which has a ton of planet-/system-killers, like say an Arkon-Bomb, which burns away an entire world, till there is nothing left! Once used only cutting the fire out (and only at the start, once it has spread over a wide area that is next to impossible!)) etc. - Planetary bombardment is only scary because it takes a long time and you might actually survive it, while many of your friends, family etc. might not!)
The population broke before the planet did
Honey to my ears.
Wait, we loved the Kaminoan cloning cities? Where they pumped out slave soldiers by the millions and carried out ruthless genetic manipulation? Err, okay then.
Really wish we could have actually seen this in the movies. And no i dont count the dreadnought from episode 8.
the kumas should be in the next fallen order game
So... Exterminatus.
But still, this was informatively terrifying, and a good reference for how terrible war is.
Exterminatus goes beyond simple orbital bombardment.
Orbital bombardment is mostly carried out with low energy lance fire (the basic ship to ship energy weapon) because at full power the impacts are hard enought to make the planet tectonical unstable "terraforming" the planet into a volcanic hell or breaking into pieces(and getting back into exterminatus)
Though that option is used for exterminatus if you have time or only "small" ships/no designatet exterminatus weapons. Another flavor for orbital bombardment is the use of Melta torpedos to turn cities,armies,bunkers or whatever you want gone into slack
More common is virus bombing and cyclonic torpedos or for pesky already lifeless worlds two stage cyclonic missles.
In many cases though orbital bombardment is only used in the beginning of a planetary assault because shield systems will protect stategic targets from anything short of exterminatus and as bonkers as 40k humanity is they like to keep planets if possible
Being called ‘barbaric’ by a rebel sympathizer means nothing. Barbarians are those who live in lesser societies. The Empire is NOT a lesser civilization.
The bombardment may have been evil.
*Preparing to commit warcrimes against the Imperial Military*