Who was Objectively The Biggest War Criminal in the History of the Star Wars Universe?
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Literally every big name in Star Wars be like: "Yavin Code more like Yavin Advice."
General Skywalker: “they are more…guidelines then actually rules.”
Have you ever heard of the yavin suggestions my young jedi
@@sheevpalpatine2128 "Advice" is a synonym for "Suggestion," and I didn't want to repeat the whole "Geneva Convention more like Geneva Suggestion" meme, so I looked up synonyms for advice and picked the one that most rolled off the tongue to me.
@@keatonburton5636 yeah i know i was making my own joke i dont even remember your comment
@@sheevpalpatine2128 Oh, okay. Then the following is me playing along: Do not cite the rules of war to me, Sith. I know the Yavin Code as well as I know the code of the Jedi.
When you’re so evil that attacking medical ships is considered the least worst thing you’ve done.
Serbia would would like to know your location.
Then that's truly evil.
Yes
Where in the real world such a thing would land you against a wall imagine if you glassed a planet
@@litorres4125 Laughs in Covenant
Grievous after blowing up a planet so the enemy doesn't get it: Sometimes my genius, it's almost frightening.
hardly genius tho; it's a very old and kinda obvious tactic ('scorched earth')
@@Yarblocosifilitico it's a joke.
@@clonecoric4140 I know, I was just pointing out an interesting historical fact
@@Yarblocosifilitico not really lol
@@clays4038 how you mean? Sure, it's 'dissintagrated planet' or whatever in this case, but the principle is the same
I wonder if clones are considered to be slaves, if so, the Republic are violating its own slave laws
They’re not considered to be sentient due to being artificially created, just like the droids they fight
@@elitestranger5262 but jedi treat them as sentient.
@@plaguemaster308 the only way for the clone army to even exist is for them to legally be considered non-sentient thereby avoiding those pesky anti-slavery laws. The Jedi and a few others treating them as people doesn’t change this.
All is fair in love and war, especially if you love war.
“A man chooses, a slave obeys.”
Grievous is what happens when the phrase “I don’t give a fuck” comes to life. His mechanical parts had more compassion for life than what was left of his organic self. The only war crime in his mind was defeat….
And what’s even crazier is that, if you know his backstory, you’d know that his hatred for pretty much everything, especially the Jedi and the Republic, was 100% justified
Justified in his mind. Reality was dooku did it, not the jedi
@@ML-sc3pt Dooku did not help win the war to the species that was enslaving his people, the same species that killed his parents when he was just a child, the same species that killed the woman he was in love with in front of him, the same species that destroyed cemeteries of his people who were sacred according to their religion (including the one in which was the tomb of his beloved), after the Republic sent 50 Jedi to help Grievous's enemy species (the Huks) imposed war reparations on the Kaleesh (Grievous species) who starved half of their species, including several of Grievous' children, all this despite Grievous asking the Republic and Jedi for help before the Huks and these ignored Kalee (Grievous's planet), what is certain is that the Jedi did not destroy his ship, they killed his best friends and destroyed his body, but San Hill and Dooku lied to him by telling him that and Grievous believed it, they also put chips in the his brain, which put him in a state of eternal anger and hatred, the only peace that Grievous would find in his life would be death, no matter how painful it was, but until then Grievous will live only for one thing ...
See the Jedi exterminated, and see the Republic destroyed.
It was not justified
@@condedooku9750 dooku shot down his ship and mutilated his body. Arguably what was most personal to grevious
@@ML-sc3pt
Well, both things are horrible, but I think that losing several of your wives and your children and losing a war against a race that wanted to enslave you which killed your parents, many friends and the woman you loved, along with starve half your species and leave it in poverty, forcing you to become a thug for arrogant bankers ... Yes, I think that's worse than losing your body and some comrades to a bomb.
"Thats dark, even for Star Wars"
*laughs in turning people into living filter-bricks*
Sorry i can't hear you, my shovel is stuck to deep in your heretical skull
*The Qu would like to: know your location*
@alvarohernani6645 do you want a rocket jumper soldier?
I think Palpatine/Sidious is the biggest war criminal because everything Grievous and Tarkin did were on his orders or at least with his blessing. Everything that happens in episodes 1-6 was by his will.
exactly, he's the mastermind pulling everyone's strings
"There were no good guys in the Clone Wars or the Galactic Civil War, but there was certainly a great bad guy, his name was Darth Sidious, better known as Sheev Palpatine."
@@condedooku9750 ... how convinient for you, Count Dooku
@@Yarblocosifilitico
"Accidents don't exist." (Master Oogway)
Not Alderaan. He was actually really pissed that Tarkin blew up a core world like that.
The biggest criminal in Star Wars was the new trilogy directors.
Specifically, whoever decided to throw out the real canon and replace it with bad knock offs.
@@jamesleduke873
The people who refuse to restore the true old canon are also part of the problem. Thus you could say their crime is atleast of a second degree.
@@jamesleduke873 like ships can hyperspace ram other ships ignoring that shields are a thing
I'd give you a like but you're at a pretty nice number right now
@@philipendres1882 lmao too late
Just imagine if Grievous had force abilities.
Dear god NO
One word: RUN
he would easily kill most jedi apart from yoda and mace, which he already almost can, and ngl he would come close to killing mace imo, but ofc Dooku had him on a cybernetic leash, so by his nature I don't think much would actually change if that was cannon.
Bind him to one of the shard from legends.
That's the most ironic thing about Grievous: the most evil man in the history of Star Wars wasn't even a Darksider.
Star wars The criminal underworld is so freaking cool and deadly
And underrated
Too dirty and dark for me, though.
Tyber Zann, Prince Xizor, Talon Karrde and Booster Terrik all rank very high on my list of favorite characters, while on the whole Spy Intrigue subplots, Ysanne Isard and Iella Wessiri are definitely stand out characters to me.
Its so powerful on crime family runs multiple systems 🤣
Everyone, every Star Wars character is a war criminal.
You dare speak of our lord and savior Gonk like that boy!?
What has Ahsoka done to you, dirty reg?
There is no War Crimes.
"In Times of War, Laws silent"
- Latin Quote
@@SirTorcharite not a war crime but she made the republic violate the treaty with mandalore and started an invasion with the help of terrorists
@@SirTorcharite probably some summary executions on droids. Any disarmed droid she finished off would be a warcrime. Heck, pretty sure she killed off the unarmed Droid in the clone wars movie
The writers of Ep 7/8/9. They murdered the whole friggan universe.
Palpatine, he was the reason that every single war crime technically happened in all 3 trilogies
True
Very, very accurate, and this is in addition to the ones he perpetrated himself
“The code is more what you'd call 'guidelines' than actual rules." -Hector Barbossa
Parley
Jedi Master Barbossa
Geneva suggestion
But sir the pirate code !!
Sidious is my canidae for greatest war criminal. Every war crime committed by the republic during the clone wars along with the those committed by the separates are war crimes he is the person most accountable for. So obi-wan, annikins and grevious's war crimes should count as his. Then you add every war crime and crime against civilization done under the empire, and you have a tough man to beat.
basically almost every war crime in the period between episode 1 and 9 can be traised to Sidious to some extent.
Drake is my candidate for greatest war criminal
exactly my thoughts
@@matthiuskoenig3378 Yup
It is ridiculous how stupid Anakin was not to realize this when Palpatine told him that he was Darth Sidious. I mean, I was not hard to understand that he was the one responsible for trillions of deaths, by being the orchestrator of the Clone Wars and the man controlling both sides. And yet he was still clinging on how the Jedi Council did not trust the Chancelor.
"Officially, there was never a slave army of the republic..."
"Unofficially, approximately 6.2 million units of clone slaves were bred to die"
That's pretty terrible, i like to consider each unit as 1000, so there are 6,200,000,000 clones in my head canon
Units i am fairly sure meant individuals
@@samuelcarbeskar6118 yea i guess thats common knowledge, but most people change that number for their headcanon since it really doesnt add up. 6.2 million clone soldiers total for a galaxy wide war that saw literally trillions of opposing battle droids? that cant be right
@@hatwearingcrusader4471
I actually don't know what makes less sense.
That in canon, there are less than 10 million clones fighting an intergalactic war. (Assuming they're doing all the fighting themselves and there aren't scores of PDF's doing most of the fighting/defending.)
Or in legends, the Kaminoans are creating hundreds of millions to billions of clones with only some help from other less known facilities when their world is literally covered in water, only have enough to support themselves, have little to no outside trade with anyone before the clone wars, and canonically in both canons only have a population of 1 billion kaminoans.
@@hatwearingcrusader4471 wasnt it billions? Yoda did show that when outnumbered 100 to 1 clones (with him outpowering ventress and making the last bit of difference) have a reasonably easy task ahead, but one can also add that there were almost certainly not only clones fighting in the war and that Palpatine probably willingly maneuvred the separatists poorly to make the war more even. But yeah if it had been 6 million versus 10-100 trillion it would be a tough if not impossible fight fight
That number is pretty realistic for such a large galaxy with about 2 million planets. I agree with that too especially for the Expanded Universe.
Imagine if Grievous was Force Sensitive. Nobody would stop him. He wouldn't give a shit about the rule of 2, he'd kill Palatine, and possibly Dooku so he could be the ultimate warrior.
Darth Grievous, the last Sith.
2003 Grievous.... Except that now he has the force. Welp, there's no stopping him now.
Can this grant me the chance to smash the head of obi wan
@@dinosolder6454 probably not 😂
are you high? Palps would demolish grevious 😂😂😂
Grievous would stand a chance versus any high end Force user. This isnt debatable. Its just fact.
“No one out crimes the General”
Hehehehehehehehe
One candidate who could be classed as worse than Grievous would be Palpatine. Not only is he personally responsible for any atrocities committed by the Empire such as Alderaan, he's also behind the First Order and the Hosnian system. Add on the fact that Grievous did most of his actions under the direction of Palpatine, and that Palpatine orchestrated the entire war by playing and controlling both sides.
I don’t know which continuity, but I thought I heard Palpatine was displeased with Tarkin’s destruction Alderaan, since it was such a historically and culturally important world. I could be wrong though.
@@benderthepirate I'm not gonna outright disagree with you as I don't know for sure, but Palpatine doesn't strike me as a guy who really cared for that stuff. But even if he was bothered about that, he was still indirectly responsible by personally appointing Tarkin to be in control of the Death Star, knowing exactly what he was like personality wise
@@charlielynch3916 if anything he was displeased because he knew it would only encourage the rebels to fight harder, and it did.
And that's not going into the kind of shit he pulled in Legends. Not to mention the usage of Operation: Cinder in current canon.
What is the First Order and the Hosnian system? I don't think that's in the movies and it sure as shit isn't in the comics
Me after finding out Anakin isn't the biggest War Criminal in Star Wars: Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete?
Or: The Algorithm has never been wrong before.
*incomplete
@@oskarileppanen1154 thanks
Nil Spaar, Onimi, Palpatine in that order. Their list of war crimes makes Grievous look like a saint.
No one else even comes close.
Grievous is maybe the worst public because they are eagerly recorded by the holonet
I’m going to cosplay as satan and drag you for saying that sentence
How is Nil Spaar worse than Onimi? They did pretty much the same thing, but one was on a galactic scale and the other wasn't.
@@samueldimmock694 Several reasons. Firstly, the Vong do assimilate other cultures, granted as slaves and during the war they did collaborate, proving that they could to a degree coexist. Spaar on the other hand did not do this, of the roughly 50,000 Imperials they used to gain knowledge of their tech, less than 500 were left by the time of the Black Fleet Crisis. The only other examples of prisoners were temporary human shields. The Yevetha did not negotiate with any other species, they didn't bend or alter to accommodate them and unlike Onimi, who was legitimately deranged from the combination of the Vong religious beliefs and his mental augmentation with the Yammosk cells that disfigured him, Spaar was completely 'sane' and in possession of his faculties. It should also be noted that unlike the Vong, who did eventually surrender and end the war, the Yevetha literally didn't stop until they were all killed, even when the Empire occupied N'zoth initially, the Yevetha continued sabotaging, fighting and killing Imperials and each other until Spaar had them bide their time temporarily.
Had Spaar pursued a galactic level war(which if the Yevetha had waited another decade to do, they could have at the very least ravaged the Core.) it would effectively be a galactic genocide of every single non Yevethan species they encountered. That is worse than what Onimi planned for the galaxy.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 True. I guess it really depends on how much weight you give to intentions versus results.
My boy Grievous be going full Warhammer 40K here.
That would be an awesome series. Listing the war crimes of Star Wars characters. Full details, some videos will be 5 minutes and others maybe 1 hour. I would be down either way.
Mine will be 5 hours least
During the old republic: Our Boy Malgus and General Garza
During the clone wars: The republic. Droids are given orders, low chance of sentience
During the Empire: Tarkan
Laughs in Danetta Pitta, Ysanne Isard and Ishin Il-Raz.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 during what era?
@@AncestorEmpireGaming Empire.
Pitta systematically depopulated whole swaths of the Outer Rim of aliens, Il-Raz razed planets on the regular to gain favor from Palpatine, Isard kidnapped, brainwashed and tortured every pow she got her hands on, unleashed a virus that broke aliens down on a cellular level, killed tens of millions having her super star destroyer Lusankya blast out of Coruscant's crust.
Each of these three were worse than anyone beyond Palpatine himself in the Empire.
Then there's Nil Spaar and Onimi during 16-17 ABY and 24-28 ABY. The Yevethan uprising and subsequent Great Purge annihilated all life in the Koornacht Cluster and the Yuuzhan Vong invasion wiped out 365 TRILLION civilians and saw mass slavery, butchery, brainwashing, torture, living beings used as shields and fodder and the extinction of multiple races.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 as an EU casual, I appreciate this.
Who’s General Garza?
It’s all good and well until a gigantic cyborg gets too salty when space wizards are winning.
Man, grievous did so many horrible things but how does he look cool doing it. That’s a crime on its own.
Is this a complement say yes or I burn your dog alive
I get the feeling that the galactic Republic has a very American interpretation of the Geneva conventions, which is to say, "it's not a war crime when we or our friends do it"
"Remember kids, it's not a warcrime if you win! And you can just push a button to end the world if you don't!"
That's literally everyone's interpretation of the rules of war. The U.S. isn't special in any way as far as that goes. You'd be hard-pressed to find a country that hasn't committed a war crime and downplayed it afterwards.
@@DovahFett Switzerland
@@ThrawnFett123 During the Second World War the Swiss were more than willing to store the Nazi's gold for them. Gold that they and everyone else knew was stolen from Jews and other occupied peoples that were at best being evicted from their homes, and at worst being sent to concentration camps. They even held on to some of it afterwards because the people it was stolen from had all died during the war. No foul on their part as far as the Swiss were concerned. It took 50 years for an official investigation to gain access to the records and finally discover just how much gold the Swiss government had effectively looted from the dead of the war.
Do not mistaken the Swiss' stance of neutrality for one made out of moral concerns. They just wanted to stay out of the way of the giants around them.
There is no such thing as a clean war. There is no such thing as a bloodless war. It debases and degrades everyone involved.
@@DovahFett that's true, but every other country on the planet also doesn't have the world's biggest military and is constantly intervening in places where that has no reason to because they want to LARP being the world police.
It less that we're the only one's who do it, and more that we do it so often it's become a national pastime.
"Yavin Conventions, more like Yavin suggestions" - every Mandalorian at some point, probably.
Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorian stands out as a contender against Grevious, as do his children, Arcann and Veylin. Aside from that, the methods employed by Revan during the Mandalorian Wars, up to and including the activation of the Mass Shadow Generator and his actions as Dark Lord of the Sith, certainly warrant candidacy.
ez, it was Kenobi. His sexiness was so powerful it killed millions
It's certainly a crime how well he pulls off the Big Jedi Mullet. His sassiness, particularly toward Anakin, may also be several war crimes.
Exactly I could of saved them ! And people say I’m bad
War crimes are common… period. If they weren’t common in Star Wars, it wouldn’t be realistic
Knowing grievous's back story, I don't blame him.
Atleast in the Expanded Universe.
I like EU grievous more then the over the top incompetent one the currect staff have forced us to see.
@@thorshammer7883 Grievous has pretty much the same backstory in New Canon and in Legends after sourcebooks re-canonized it. Only in the TCW show and some of its direct extensions like Adventures and Dark Disciple we see a poor representation of him (thanks to Filoni), in Son Of Dathomir he beats Maul 1v1 with just two sabers and butchers Mandalorian super commandos with his bare hands, and in Kanan The Last Padawan, leaves Depa Billaba with PTSD, twice.
@@Dass_Jennir
He's still not the ruthless, cunning warrior villain I once knew that took on multiple jedi at once while only using his two arms and didn't make a break for it at the first sight of trouble. He's still not the same.
@@Dass_Jennir Well tbf the Dark Disciple and Son of Dathomir arc were supposed to in CW. Grevious was well on his way to getting fixed. Watch the crystal crisis unfinished eps and you'd see how much they improved him.
Nor do I
"Your honour, my client is built different"
*yaven code* EXISTS..
Republic and the empire: “im going to pretend I didn’t see that”
Could have the CIS been the most powerful military and navy in the history of Star Wars if it wasn't for the deliberate constant political, strategic, and economic sabotage of their faction by Palpatine and his cronies severely limiting their true potential?
Atleast what was mentioned in the Expanded Universe about them?
Yeah palpatine was kind of "nerfing" the separatists.
Someone forgot to tell Obi-Wan about parley, or he'd have used that during the battle of Christophsis.
*Meanwhile in Stellaris*
Emperor: "Ah another alien planet bombarded into submission and a clone army sent to sterilize them in the name of a united peace. Life in upper side of the galaxy for the Terran Imperium is great. Alot better for our people then the other side which is full of slave trades and war mongering. Life is good and the Imperium's people is happy."
Let's be xenophobic
@@johgekpunkt9516 it's really in this year
@@minderbart1 let's find a nasty slimy ugly alien to fear
@@johgekpunkt9516 There's no more cutesy stories about ET phoning home, let's learn to love our neighbors like the Christians learned in Rome
@@KingDerpy13 we know we are to them they're different you see
It's pretty messed up that in the real world certain weapons that are considered too cruel for war via the Geneva Convention are completely acceptable to use on your own population
I think Darth Nihilus comes close to Grievous. He turns several planets into dead husks.
There is a catch 22: War Crimes are primarily applied to those who’ve signed on that dotted line. Thus, the question must be asked: which ones are war criminals again?
I mean historically people were charged for war crimes even when their country didn't sign the dotted line
True. But other charges were technically placed, especially in drast comparison(s), @@waltvonkeisel1617. For example, the way the Huk treated the Kaleesh & how the Kaleesh were punished for what the Huk did could alleviate charges on Grievous, IF he left survivors & made a very clear message to the survivors that if they rise up & continued, he’d finish them for good…
Anywho, the United States of America technically didn’t sign on the dotted line in regards to using chemical warfare. However, if the reason(s) is because its impractical/illogical, but still follow the end goal of not using chemical weapons, then I’d be okay with it…
@@nickvinsable3798
Kalee, the planet of Grievous was literally in the Stone Age when the Huks invaded it to enslave its entire population, of course Grievous would not respect the "rules of war" if he did not even know them, the Huks came to enslave them and Grievous like retaliation (after going through many experiences that gave Grievous PTSD) went to exterminate them, ("an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"), therefore the war crimes of Grievous when he had free will are justified, on the other hand In the Clone Wars Grievous had his mind altered through chips by San Hill and Dooku, so he was not willingly committing war crimes.
Despite the differences in the finer details. At least you’re thinking the way I’m thinking, @@condedooku9750. Thanks…
@@nickvinsable3798 You're welcome my friend.
“Worst War Criminal In The Known Galaxy”
Grievous: “A fine addition to my collection!”
Once again, my boi Grievous takes the cake by taking something awful to the extreme.
And yet I empathize with him after all the horrible things he has experienced throughout his life.
@@condedooku9750 then you are a fool je deserved every thing that happened to him
@@jasonskeans3327 no he didn't
@@elijahbutcher9522 yes he did he was a monster that deserved every bad thing that happened to him
@@jasonskeans3327 He was a monster but the shit that happened to him BEFORE he became the monster the galaxy feared was entirely undeserved and could've been avoided had the Republic and Jedi the so-called "morally up-right" "good guys" of galaxy and defenders of the weak, innocent, and downtrodden had helped him and his people during the Huk Wars when they requested aid.
Neither Grievous nor his planet and people deserved the shit the Huk, Jedi, and Republic put them through.
6:09 I don't think anyone is surprised at the idea of Anakin and Master Obi Wan being war criminals
Yeah XD
I'm 100% certain that the level of Sidious' war crimes is so immensely incomparable to Grievous'. I mean Sidious litterally orchestrated a galaxy spanning war while controlling both factions lying to basically every single being in the galaxy and leading to millions of casualties.
General Grievous be like: "Some may call this Geneva conventions. Me, I call it a to-do list."
That's a lot of potential war crime trials, which is why we need to win!
-Anakin Crimewalker
Mon mothma: you break every rule of engagement
Saw Gererra: *what rules?*
My initial thought: Supreme Overlord Shimrra
Unless the Vong don't count, because they're kind of too obvious of an answer (or you don't consider them part of your headcanon). Other than him, probably Palpatine. He was responsible for starting the whole Clone Wars, built weapons of mass destruction, and destroyed multiple planets by Base Delta Zero, Death Star, and Galaxy Gun.
There is Darth Nihilus, Lord of Hunger... The Immortal Emperor, Valkyrian, who wiped all life from Ziost, there was Arcann who ordered the planetary bombardment of five planets in the hope that one will give up the outlander, then there is the outlander him/herself, depending on the choices one makes within the Old Republic game, from blowing up multiple civilian targets to murdering surrendered combatants (Imperial side).
Technically, on all fronts, it's Palpatine.
The thumbnail reminds me of a scene from Kingdom (Korean historical zombie series) where a eunuch hugs a young servant (?) before they're killed.
Awesome work, Geets🙂
Only that cyborg could top Order 66 and the destruction of Alderaan. At least in the case of Order 66 it was more of a large battle at Coruscant and smaller skirmishes across the galaxy. Actually, Alderaan might top Grievous's war crimes, but mostly the Galactic Empire was immoral via government and oppression instead of mass slaughter. So to me if Order 66 is easily topped by Grievous and it has to take the destruction of Alderaan to top Grievous, how few and horrific war crimes were ever committed in the galaxy to ever top that Separatist general?
Alderaan has a population of 2 billion, the planet grevious destroyed had 5 billion.
@@Random-ql6rr
The Empire also committed genocide on Geonosis, and the Republic on Kromus ...
I think Revan should also technically be considered a candidate. Not only did he destroy Malachor V with the Mass Shadow Generator, he created a wound in the force itself. I feel as though that could be considered the real-life equivalent of damaging reality or creating a tear in the fabric of space-time.
Kyp Durron should be on the list of war criminals. I mean come on, the guy sent several stars into supernova and took out several systems.
Most of those stars weren't inhabited, and in the one instance he did blow up an inhabited system, it was a legitimate military target on the verge of launching an attack on the New Republic.
I'd say Palpatine by a long shot but he'd probably say it was a rebellion not a war.
The idea that the Yavin accord is no longer followed because of its age isn't really that dark. Its pretty much the same problem the geneva convention is experiencing.
Honestly I don't feel bad for the Huk. They created the monster, might as well die from it
They attempted genocide, and when it blew up in their faces, they went crying to the Republic for help. Not only were they terrible beings, they were cowards as well.
@@jamesleduke873 Which is the reason I don't feel sorry for what happened to them.
@@jamesleduke873
"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" that was Grievous' attitude which is quite justified, if the Huks did not want to be annihilated they should not try to enslave entire planets to get rid of their population and earn money in return, if there were any Huk good at that soulless monster civilization, so it should have left before Grievous came to destroy a slave empire, anyone who stayed would do so knowing they were supporting a slave empire and deserved to die. Who knows how many lives Grievous would have saved if he had achieved his goal, we will never know, what we do know is that not a single tear was shed by all the species that were eradicated by the Huks.
I feel like Palpatine would be worse than Grievous; I feel like conducting both sides of a war is a huge war crime
Why is it called the 'Yavin Code'? 1000 years earlier, Yavin was just a Gas Giant in the Outer Rim...
It was a neutral location so everyone would attend
Empire: why do you follow the Yavin code so much?
Thrawn: It’s the law!
Tatooine is a desert planet now instead of a lush planet because the Rakatans bombed the surface of the planet until it turned to glass, after the natives tried to rebel. Natural process broke up the glass to sand.
I hope they make that canon again.
Not gonna condone warcrimes. But it seems like in Star Wars you can’t win some battles without doing them.
If you can’t win a battle without committing war crimes, you shouldn't win at all.
Thats not just in Star Wars. It´s kinda why we came up with these laws you know? So that people don´t do it even when it might win a battle.
@@jdcrosier2682lol
Not many will admit, but General Hux is by far one of the highest war criminals out there in the Star Wars Universe. His abduction of millions if not billions of children within and without the Unknown Region and forcing them into hellish training into making them into Stormtroopers that vast outshine anything that Galactic Empire were able to produce already put him high on the list, and that not taking into account the deaths of the New Republic by the firing of Starkiller base in a singular instance wiping out the head of an enemy government.
He also killed his superior in cold blood too, killed his own men and betrayed the First Order, you have to hand it to Hux, he had a knack for committing war crimes.
Pity Ep. IX "nerfed" him... at least Trevorrow would have given a dark yet fitting end for the guy.
"The Clones aren't slaves they're organic droids"-the Galactic Republic(probably)
obi wan and anakin did was like occasionally throwing small candy wrappers on the ground while jaywalking
compared to what grievous did
We all know that its Chopper hands down
Only 40 seconds in but I’ll say this now…there are no such things as “war crimes” in Star Wars. Both sides resorted to chemical warfare at some point (especially the Separatists), there are at least 2 accounts of fake surrendering on the Republic side amongst possibly many others, and both sides had a major “take no prisoners” attitude. Then we get into the Empire, where the concept of a “war crime” was taken to the extreme both in times of “peace” and during the rise of the Rebellion…and that’s not even including the Death Star at all.
Probably should have hung in there for another 40 seconds.
@@Valca.Design Oh I watched the entire video. And what I said was not contradicted in any way. Lol.
For some Sith Emperors it was not a Geneva Convention, more a Geneva Checklist.
Revan with mass shadow generator should be kinda high up there.
Legends: Too many to count
Disney: Palpatine
Probably the Yuuzhan Vong under Shimrra
Welcome to The Clone Wars, where war crimes happen hourly and The Good Guys are actually The Bad Guys.
"Star Wars Holiday Special" is canon, and nobody is gonna talk about that? That entire movie is a crime against humanity!
im pretty sure the Yavin code was just executions
“Who’s the biggest war criminal in galactic history?”
*shows an image of Anakin Skywalker*
Edit: damn he didn’t win :/
Something to consider, Tarkin eliminated a single planet. General Grievous eliminated entire species.
General Grevious: wait I was not supposed to kill those civilians
So, essentially you're saying Darth Vader would be a candidate for biggest war criminal, but Anakin wouldn't?
You need to make a video listing all of grievous’s crimes
Luckily, he has already done a few. Just look up Geetsly Grievous and you should find them no prob.
“Are there other war-criminals you would like us to take a look at?” Palpatine. Duh
irl, everyone commits war crimes but only the loosing side is held accountable.
Yeah the Expanded Universe is for the most mature and the imaginative of writers that almost zero of the staff in the currect regime has the guts to make or accept now. I consider these events canon over the false new timeline any day.
You can't say it's mature when there was a jedi master named Soon Bayts. "Master Bayts, they're coming from all sides."
@@jitbrady7158 And good old manny both hands.
"many bothands died to bring us this information"
true in my headcannon because its hilarious.
Video suggestion: Top 10 Imperials That Got What Was Coming To Them.
1. Grand Moff Tarkin
2. Moff Arihnda Pryce
3. Gallius Rax
4. Admiral Conan Antonio Motti
5. Captain Ozzik Sturn
6. Director Orson Callan Krennic
7. Admiral Kassius Konstantine
8. Admiral Kendal Ozzel
9. Tiber Saxon
10. Moff Gideon
The order YOU want to do it in is up to you, but this just my preference order.
Star Wars isn’t Star Wars without those juicy war crimes
This is actually something I hope really really wanted to know
The only thing wrong about this video is the suggestion that war crimes aren't committed regularly in reality.
True.
To be fair most of anakin and obi wans false surrenders were against battle Droids and with how crappy the star wars universe treats Droids I'm sure none of these rules apply.
A battle droid can be classified as a combatant. Therefore the rules apply like always.
Literally any droid: * steps on republic land *
Anakin Skywalker: *meep meep mother f*cker*
You also have to remember that grievous mind was forcibly altered by San Hill, Doku and Sidious so it’s debatable how much responsibility he has for these crimes.
I thank Darth Vitiate with his goal of destroying the entire galaxy and how he went about doing it is worse then Grievous
this ^^
anakin? 😏
How many times has he attacked under a white flag 😂
@@hydra9476 i mean he false surrendered so
We joke about war crimes, but they probably never bothered to make any in Star Wars because people were breaking them all the time.
One can't commit a war crime if you win your wars.
As Obi-Wan and Anakin showed us, it's not a war crime if you do it to save innocents, like their troops or the people on Ryloth who were dying and starving. lol.
Yeah... no try pleading that in a real life war crimes case, and you'd get a firing squad you know why? Because morality varies from person to person, and community to community.
If Anakin and his crew had truly surrendered the people of Ryloth would have been able to eat and also Anakin would have prevented the CIS from being more reluctant to take prisoners.
@@condedooku9750 Considering the Seps in charge of the Ryloth occupation were completely suppressing the people, killing them, cutting off any food shipments with the blockade, and using them as slaves and human shields, I'm pretty sure they weren't going to honor their end of the bargain if they agreed to Anakin's surrendered.
@@zexalbrony4799
Mar Tuuk seemed like an honorable guy, plus Wat Tambor can hardly rule a planet full of starving corpses, not to mention there is no proof that they were being enslaved, the human shields and looting thing is true, but ... Why do you want slaves if you have a quadrillion droids at your disposal? It's just stupid, it makes sense for the Empire that has a policy against droids but not the CIS to do it.
@@condedooku9750 Yet, they still take slaves, for either labor or just to sell to allies like Zygerrians or Trandosians for aid.
Through, I'm fairly certain it was to paint the CIS as completely evil with them taking slaves among the other horrible acts Dooku encouraged his commanders to do, more so than doing it for a practical but still horrible reason like the Empire needing manpower for all it's secret weapon projects.
False surrender is the worst war crime to commit that doesn't involve non-combatant. The Jedi were not true warriors definitely not soldiers and most certainly should never been generals. They are warrior monks but in a galactic army they do not serve a purpose their time had come and gone and they refused to admit it and try to hold on to power and that is why they failed.
Thats not ture. The jedi help people first. They give aid to planets that need it and stop wars from happening. Unless you haven't noticed...the star wars universe is full of a lot of war. So their jobs are not done and never was.
That's extremely hyperbolic, I can think of a dozen war crimes worse than that off the top of my head
Let me introduce you to a new species, its called the "comma". You'll find them useful.
@@CoolMyron
Is that why they caused a famine in Kalee that killed half its population?
That is why they killed 1.3 billion civilians in the Battle of Kromus after an orbital bombardment (that is, they eliminated the entire population of the planet).
Why did they commit the Sith Holocaust under the Chancellor's orders after the Sith Empire was no longer even a threat?
And those are just a few examples, the list of Jedi atrocities is so much higher, I'm just scratching the surface.
@@condedooku9750 You say all that as if they havent also saved the galaxy 100 times over. I never said they were perfect by any means. Even superman has to crack a few eggs every once and awhile. No group or nation that has stood as long as the Jedi order and the republic has would be clean of any mistakes.
The Jedi Order was the biggest crime syndicate.
Meanwhile in Battlefront 2.
Troopers in the Hallway
*I'm coming for you*
Random Trooper player: Ah dam its that one guy who keeps playing Grevious
“Who is the biggest war criminal in Star Wars?”
Kathleen Kennedy: “I never do anything for “Goodness” sake! Everything I do is for the sake of evil!”
would we consider Luke Skywalker to be a war criminal for his destruction of the first death star - given the number of non-combatants onboard that were killed. I can't remember how many people were supposed to have been on the death star, but it seems like it was in the millions maybe? Obviously many of them would have been combatants and therefore fair targets, but there were plenty that weren't as well. Clearly something had to be done to it b/c they were going to blow up additional planets with it, but the question is whether the offensive capability/threat of the death star could be negated by means other than destroying the entire thing.
Given that the Rebel Alliance was not a part of, nor working for any recognized government, by modern standards Luke could not have been a war criminal. Terrorist, yes; war criminal, no.
@@qawamity
Luke was fighting for "the alliance to restore the Republic", also known as the Rebel Alliance, a faction of freedom fighters who sought to destroy an unlawful totalitarian government, furthermore it is not a war crime to destroy an enemy war facility that is being used for war at that time, which also has already killed billions and will kill billions more if not stopped, any civilian aboard the Death Star was aware of the risks of their work, and if even so they accepted it, they are not only reckless but also complicit in the atrocities committed by the Death Star.
@@condedooku9750 one man's freedom fighter is another's terrorist.
@@qawamity That's true, but destroying the Death Star is not a war crime.
@@condedooku9750 didn't say it was. I said it was an act of terrorism. Because it technically was. The use or threat of violence by a non-state actor to effect political or social change. It was definitely a use of violence, the Rebel Alliance is not a recognized state/nation, and it was done as part of a campaign to destroy/reform the empire and replace it with a republic.
Had the Alliance been a state actor, the Death Star's status as a mobile fortress would have rendered it a legitimate military target.
*it’s only a war crime if your side loses*
The fact that perfidy is considered a war crime would make Sun Tzu spin in his grave
it's because it discourages the opposing faction from accepting surrender and will result in all defeated armies being killed in mass executions, why should they let you surrender if you're just doing it to gain an advantage