The Official Tesla-Made NACS to CCS1 Adapter For Supercharger Access Is Here!
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- I received my NACS to CCS1 adapter from Ford a few days ago and tested it on my F-150 Lightning as I previously did with the A2Z and Lectron adapters. This is the official adapter that is made by Tesla and is currently the only one that Tesla and Ford endorse for use on the Supercharger network.
The adapter will allow non-Tesla vehicles to charge at Tesla Superchargers, provided the manufacturer of the EV has an agreement in place with Tesla.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:14 Unboxing
03:44 Charging my Lightning at the Tesla Supercharger
07:31 My thoughts on approved vs non-approved NACS adapters
11:13 Tesla, Ford, and Rivian's statements on non-approved adapter use
12:26 The NACS to CCS1 key features
14:20 The 10% to 80% charge recording
14:57 The surface temperature of the adapter during the charging session
15:48 My initial thoughts on the build quality
20:00 Thanks to Ford for sending these to customers for free
21:10 Outro
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So great that Ford shows you so much respect. They are learning how to "advertise without advertising". Good for you and good for them!
Nothing bats free advertising
I'd like to see a teardown and comparison of all three -Tesa, A2Z, and Lectron.
Thanks, Tom! I prefer the Lectron's locking mechanism, and the A2Z's size and durability. Can't wait to see the extensions cables that will help make all the difference.
For removing the adapter, try leaving the adapter plugged into the car, use one hand to open the lock and the other hand to pull straight out on the NACS connector. I think that's probably the design intent.
I was thinking almost the same thing.
In the first video he did with the adapter I am pretty sure that the Ford rep told him that it is to be removed from the vehicle and then removed from the plug but I would have to rewatch to be 100% sure.
Great advice. The way Tom does it here, I would probably drop and break it.
Was about to say the same thing.
Tom I love that you are fair and accurate about these adapters. Especially if it has difficulties with switch locks and putting the units togeather and apart. Classic, thanks👍🏾👍🏾
Can wait till the extension cord reviews!
my hunch is that the first few that were handed out to content creators were in fact the exact adapters that were ready for shipments, but they threw out the "pre-production" verbiage just in case some defect was found with them.
Yeah he was essentially a beta tester.
Thanks Tom! I bought the Lectron adapter after your video and it’s been working great !
He said only Tesla made ones are authorized. How do you get around that and are you concerned about damage to your vehicle?
@@andrewandron7087the Lectron adapter just works. Been using Lectron products for years. No concerns so far 😅
On the topic of third party adapters - it isn’t a big deal right now, because at least _as of the writing of this comment_ there are only two companies making third party adapters, and those are large safety-conscious companies that I trust their testing.
It will be a different matter once cheap knockoffs start appearing on Alibaba and Amazon. *THOSE* I wouldn’t trust as far as my _cat_ could throw them. But the current ones? I trust those.
Great video as always!
Eventually, but right now only Ford & Rivian have access. The supercharger talks to the car and knows what it's connected to, and if it's not on Teslas approved list, it won't charge.
Thanks a bunch for the heads up with regard to Ford giving away these adapters (hadn't heard anything about it). I saw that my Mach-E received the update for this a few weeks ago and didn't really think much of it, but now that my adapters on the way, I'm looking around town at different supercharger locations and realizing this is kind of a game changer. Been complaining for a while that there isn't nearly enough public charging in Los Angeles, but with access to Tesla's network, there are now hundreds of new locations for me to go to.
A teardown of this would be very interesting.
I am not sure the seams can be tightened up much more. I think they have “potted” all of the electrics for durability, water proofing and tamper resistance. I think the seam may let them squish the body connector while everything is liquid or pliable and then it hardens and they remove the swarf.
Great review, Tom, as always. Some time ago, you mentioned non-Teslas were not being "recognized" by NACS/Tesla superchargers. Has that changed, so once an approved adapter is available, I can use the Tesla supercharge network with my Ioniq 5?
Tom, as far as decoupling the wand from the adapter goes. Did you try simply removing the wand from the adapter while it was still connected to the truck? It’s just a manual release. You need to press the wand button to shut off charging as you press down on the manual wand release.
Thank you!
I know it’s not something that would be as popular but I’m wondering if you plan to look into the new Chademo to CCS adapters that are coming out.
im so glad to hear that they are making some extension cords lol
Tesla will never fix panel gaps, it's on brand
Not any worse than all other automakers. My last two cars were perfect
@@Espiritivthey are significantly worse on average than other carmakers. you got lucky
@@lexistential Not really dude. You are probably stuck back thinking of 2013-2017 launches of model S,X,3.
Tom, given how awkward that release is, I'd be extremely surprised if it isn't an emergency release. I suspect you can press the capacitive touch button on the NACS handle to release the adapter. Have you tried that? In other words, release the adapter just like you release the NACS handle when charging a Tesla.
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How does it do in cold/hot conditions? How about a drop test (like you do with the charge connectors)?
Hey, thanks for all your time and effort in doing these videos for everyone do you know if this or any of those other adapters such as electron and A-to-Z will work on a 2024 Mercedes-Benz EE I know Tesla supposedly opened up their chargers to Mercedes-Benz and Rivian or anybody else out there has experience with charging a Mercedes at a Tesla charger with the adapter please chime in thanks
Thank you. Do you perhaps know when they would ship adapters for Canada?
Definitely waiting for version 7.0
Simple solution would be to make all chargers universal and have adequate cable length to suit all vehicles going forward. Having different connections and chargers are responsible for a lot of people not wanting an EV.
It took you 2:05 just to open the damn package. A perfect example of why you're not a regular watch for me.
It seems to me that at least in Indiana years ago if a manufacturer stated a specific branded maintenance part not available on the open market was REQUIRED to maintain a warranty they had to supply it for free. An oil filter that had a Ford part # on it.
Thanks for your review, but the wait for those of use who don't have a Ford a Rivian is tough 😞we own the VW ID.4 and would lvoe to gain access sooner than later. Again, thanks and God bless.
It seems ridiculous that we can charge the ID4 at a Magicdock (proving the car software is not the determining factor and Tesla is pulling the puppet strings) but not at other dispensers.
Tom. Try flipping it over where the lock pin is upright, then remove it with your left hand.
Tom I'm from North Jersey. I'm interested in f150 lightning my daily commute is 30 miles to work rt 3 and 46 once or twice a month to AC or occasionally to cape may. Am I gonna be ok during the winter months in the lightning extended battery during the winter months AC. Also some parking garage have a height limit should I consider the mach e instead?
Hello Tom, I enjoy you show, very informative! I was wondering, do you have an idea when I can charge my Cadilac Lyriq on the Tesla Network.
Some Ford owners won't be getting there's until early fall so I doubt that Lyriq owners will be able to get access until around November at earliest to make sure we don't run out and buy other brands to use. Probably around 1st of the year.
Who knows. They opened to Rivian before Ford owners were supplied.
When will you be showing your best of 2024 EV charger rundown?
I know Ford's instructions with the Tesla adapter are you connect the two before you put it in the car, and you separate the two after you remove from the car. But is there a physical reason why you couldn't remove the NACS first? Is it locked in until you remove the whole thing? Seems like it would be less awkward during removal that way... The instructions for the Lectron are the opposite It says you put the adapter in first and then insert the NACS cable, and when removing you remove the NACS first and then the adapter.
Good luck getting one for the next few months, even the after market ones are MIA
I would be interested to see a video testing these adapters if they are dropped, as they have a very smooth and slick finish on them. It would be a very expensive mistake!
Any idea on the timeline of NACS extension cable?
Hi Tom, really like your videos. on the disconnecting of the adaptor from the tesla SC cable, have you tried disconnecting the SC while the adaptor is still plugged in the vehicle? this say you avoid the awkward angles, then just press the button to remove vehicle. Hope this helps. I drive a Tesla but still curious :)
Us Tesla drivers have a knowledge edge because we had to relearn how to open a car door
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Ford directly said to unplug the adapter from the car first. That was in the original video.
Basic question: I haven't purchased a destination charger adapter yet, nacs to J1772 (i.e. tesla tap mini). Can this be used for that as well? If not, Is there any plans for Ford to sell an "official" one?
Tom gets a Temp one, then is the first to get the REAL one, while all of us non-RUclipsrs / media will wait for months to get ours.... I am not bitter. It is just the reality of having connections.
For some extra dough, Tom should consider auctioning his extras. I'm finally getting my A2Z adapter on Friday, but my official free adapter from Tesla/Ford is still a few months away.
@@paulrybarczyk5013 I have one of each which I need for videos. The others that I have are pre-production and I won't use them or give them away.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Thanks for the reply. 👍
The awkward disconnection feature may help prevent people from messing with your charging experience.
How does the Lyriq do with adapter
Hi Tom. Mentioning that if you use the Tesla App to innate rather than Ford Pass you can buy down the kWh rate if you subscribe.
I'll go into that in more detail in future videos
Ford gets it more than most legacy’s. Looking forward to their upcoming vehicles.
The fact they’re not already producing an electric Maverick is criminally dumb.
In industry, preproduction should be no different from production. We used to use Preproduction to validate the product, test out the production line, and provide samples for marketing, sales, etc.
I doubt the gaps are intentional. They appear to be uneven in one of the video scenes. I do agree that there is probably some waterproof sealing inside the outer shell.
Tesla Superchargers with Magic Dock are available to all CCS1 EVs, correct? I have used it successfully (via the Tesla app) with my 2022 Bolt EUV.
Correct
Hi Tom, I have a question for you. In your interview with the A2Z adapter CEO, he mentioned that he was “working with OEM’s” when developing their adapter.
My question is, if Ford is only authorizing their Tesla -made adapter, how can A2Z state that they are working with Car manufacturers when developing theirs?
Ford / Tesla states that they do not want anyone to use other adapters rather than their own. Does any of this make sense to you? It seems a little shady.
I own an A2Z adapter and use it so I do not have any complaints about the adapter itself, just the interview itself seemed a little weird in hindsight.
Any thoughts on this?
@stateofchargewithtommoloughney - question about your front light bar tint. I used some film from Lamin-X but it doesn’t look nearly as clean as yours. What did you use?
Luxe headlight tint
Any word on GM access to Tesla chargers
At 7:18 when you removed the NACS cable from the adapter, is there any reason why after you have stopped the charge by pressing the button you can't remove the NACS cable first, then remove the adapter from the CCS port? Seems like it might be less awkward that way.
No, you can do it that way
When the NACS connector is plugged into a Tesla vehicle it is the car which locks to the cable. The cable has no hardware other than a notch on the underside to lock to the vehicle. Pressing the button on the cable tells the vehicle to unlock from the cable rather than the cable unlocking from the car. When using an adapter, the button on the cable still sends a signal on one of the communication pins but the adapter is unlikely to be able to unlock from the cable automatically. As shown in the video a button is pressed on the adapter to unlock from the cable. Hope that helps.
@@CrankyTimI think what @ericroe is asking is, after pressing the button on the vehicle to stop the charge, why not let the car hold the adapter and use one hand to press the release tab and the other to pull out the cable from the adapter?
So can you use another one from a2z on the supercharger network with other EVs besides ford and rivian?
@@leoluv822nope.
Once you stop the charging on the truck, why not just push that button and unplug the NACS handle first? Hang the cord up and then squeeze the top and remove the adapter from the truck. If it's not charging, why would it matter the order? It seems like it would be easier to me.
Does this adapter work for any brand or just ford?
It is worth noting that Tesla has announced that only a portion of superchargers will open to others, 1/3?, so non Tesla owners cant rely on that network still. Any ideas of other automakers offering the adaptor? And maybe a stupid question, will the 5emp vary depending on charging speed of ev? Thank you for the super timely content!
Given the much smaller numbers of non Tesla EVs out there, much less than 1/3rd, this shouldn't be a problem.
Please explain how an extension can work with cooling on the primary cable required. Do you know the size wire required for 500 amps at 100degrees F ?
Nobody said the extension cables would be able to deliver 500 amps. The charger AND/OR the vehicle can limit the power to match the cable's max throughput by temperature sensors. The cables won't be liquid cooled.
However, people obviously have the belief a high rate of charge will be available. It probably can’t be over 25kw. At most 50 kw
Looking forward to Volvo shipping one to me. Volvo still says owners will gain access in first half of 2024.
Thanks for your videos, I just wish Ford was more transparent with information. I reserved on March 1st, when I got my truck and was told that adapters were shipping out later in the month, so I tried to be among the first to reserve it, but my estimated shipping date is August. I get the impression that Ford used this info to get people to buy their trucks sooner. Yes, it's true that they have started shipping, but it seems like it's just going to content creators. That way they make videos which gives the impression that they have actually sent out more than a few dozen while everyone else waits months for it. They do the same thing with new model vehicles; they will start to ship in 2024. Well, we shipped two out and will start shipping more 6 months from now :D I love my lightening, but between the dealer and Ford's misleading advertising on numerous issues, I now have a sour taste in my mouth over the whole experience which has left me second guessing my decision.
Can you unplug the NACS from the adapter before unplugging the adapter from the vehicle? If you can, would that make the tricky release button easier to operate?
why does it say ford - no word on Chevy - will the adaptor work on my blazer ev ?
Do you know where i can buy this?
Can this and the other two aftermarket adapters allow you to charge at Non-Super chargers as well? Home Chargers and destination chargers? It would be nice to not have to carry around 2 adapters. Or for those of us that haven't bought our lightnings yet it would be one less to have to buy.
No, these adapters are DC-only. If you notice, on the CCS side it doesn’t have all the pins for the J1772/AC side, only the pins necessary for communication.
There are plenty of Tesla-to-J1772 AC adapters out there already, from TeslaTap, A2Z, Lectron and the like. They all work great, I’ve used one for going on 6 years now with my EVs to charge at hotels that only have Tesla Destination Charging.
Can i buy that from ford for my cadilac lyriq ?
Tom, you may have told us and I missed it. Does it work for the Tesla Wall charger to the J1772 portion of the plug for AC charging at a Tesla wall charger?
No it does not.
No. None if these adapters will work on AC charging equipment. They are DC only
So J3400 plugs will be deployed at ChargePoint and Electrify America etc so what is there stated policies for adapter use on their J3400 DC Fast Charging dispenser plugs❓ 21:36
Electrify America doesn't want anyone using an adapter that they didn't purchase from their OEM.
In the maritimes it makes literally zero difference for charge network. The only V3 in the maritimes is 5 minutes from my house and I charge at home for 16 cents per KWH. 81 cents at that location in Charlottetown PEI. The only chargers on the way to Halifax for example are V2. Luckily electrify Canada is opening a location soon in Amherst. Outside of the maritimes the adapter would be useful.
When it’s 110+ out, that’s going to be pretty damn hot lol. I’ll gladly use it still though, EA and EVGO suck along my travel routes.
It was a 35 degree rise over ambient. 50-85. Therefore at 110 expect 145. 140degrees F is about the limit to leave your hand in for an extended period so I wouldn’t expect it to bee too bad.
what if you unplug the nacs connector from the adaptor first, then remove the adapter from the truck?
Removing from the truck is how charging is stopped, so I wouldn't try the other way
Nothing, it will work fine. As soon as either unlock is pressed (on either side of the adapter) charging stops immediately, before you can physically pull it apart. The same thing happens with the two non-authorized adapters.
So I have a Hyundai EV and we are scheduled to get access to the Tesla network in Q4 of 2024/Q1 2025. My question is with your Ford access, can you use ANY Tesla charger or only select ones?
It's only for V3 and V4 Tesla chargers. You can tell if it's a V2 if its rated at 150Kw
I must have been late on adapter reservation. Ford Order says estimated Aug 2024
I did it before 10am the day it opened, and my shipping is June.
If an engineer instead of a bean counter or advertising was in charge 100,000 adapters would have been sitting in a warehouse on Feb 29.
Is there a reason why you can't disconnect the NACS adapter while it is still plugged in the remove the second adapter. That is how I would do it?
You can, and there should be no issue. It's just recommended by Tesla (who makes it) and both of the companies that make the non-approved adapters, to remove it from the vehicle first.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney cool. Tesla V4 superchargers with the magic dock work well but after using one I can imagine they are a maintenance nightmare so this
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if you are plugged into a Tesla Supercharger, then Tesla is getting your charging data.
why not unplug it while its still attached to the truck then unplug the adapter.
I just asked GM about this adaptor and they said only a GM version is acceptable for a Chevy Bolt EV. It will come out in a couple months. I hate to buy one of these adaptors and have something damage the car. Any advice or assurance?
That decision is going to be up to you. But I will be using the A2Z adapter with my 2023 Bolt EV and am confident it is engineered perfectly fine and is completely safe.
Can you use the adapter for home charging with Tesla home charger ?
No, these are all DC only
Why is q-merit quotes so high for my Cadillac Lyriq?
Mostly because they use better quality components and do the installation better.
I just wonder how many drivers are going to forget to remove the adapter from the cable and drive off!
Does the official adapter have UL certification, or is the Ul process still in development?
In minute 8 he addresses this
No, no EV charging adapter currently has UL certification
Tesla and legacy automakers need to approve 3rd party adapters so people can access more user-friendly, disability conscious designs. Imagine having issues with use of one of your hands and needing to use this adapter!
Don’t hold your breath because it won’t happen. They have no incentive to approve a 3rd party device.
Ford should give them an extension cord too. They way they're not blocking 2 spaces.
Curious about what the kw output of the supercharger was for this test.
I mentioned it in the video. I saw 161 kW
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I thought that was what the Ford limited your charging at. The Tesla chargers have a rating plate on them that says whether they are 150kw, 250kw, or 350kw. So my question was did you get the 161kw rate from a 150kw charger, a 250kw charger, or a 350kw charger.
Anyone know when all the superchargers will be open to Ford? I just bought a Mach-E because Ford said 15,000 of them were acceptable. On the maps of ones available I only see a few hundred and none within 100 miles of me. So discouraging.
They will probably never all be open. The older ones are incompatible
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney So were they just lying when they said 15,000 superchargers open to Ford? This was in every press release. I can see Tesla making up that statement but I’m a little surprised Ford would be so blatant.
Tesla needs to start using longer cords so other cars aren’t forced to take up two spots every time they use a supercharger.
Does it only work on Ford or can you use it on. Kia EV?
You will be able to use it on a Kia vehicle once the Kia/Tesla agreement begins.
if it gets hot that's probably the reason for the gap in the plastic
Are any of these adapters UL listed?
No. No EV charging adapter is.
What are the guarantees that the adaptors will not crack and fail or age out over time. One would think that since it's being connected to the most expensive part of the car and that the person charging the car will be in contact with the device when turning it off. Someone might be concerned about ground paths connecting the person to the energy. @@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Leave the adapter plugged and remove the NACS connector first. The charging was already stopped when you pushed the stop charging button. Dont need to follow their instructions all the time
So, you’re saying no one should be ordering from the other companies that have these adaptors?
Not at all. I'm saying that's an individual decision. I have no problem personally using the Lectron and A2Z adapters.
Oh. I must’ve misheard you. I thought you said Ford and Rivian both stated you should only use Tesla made/ Ford or Rivian chargers.
@andrewandron7087 You know what you heard. I understand why the OEMs are concerned about their customers using adapters they haven't tested. That's why I'm doing these videos and speaking with engineers at the adapter companies to figure out which ones are made to UL 2252 standards.
Ok. Thanks for the clarification
The lectron adapter manual tells you to first plug the adapter in to your CCS vehicle and then the NACS cable in to the adapter. Then to remove it, it says to remove the cable first and then the adapter from the vehicle. What are your thoughts on this order of operations? I have been putting the adapter on the NACS cable and then plugging in to the CCS side on the vehicle.
Maybe it was designed for left handers by a left hander. :)
Tom, Tesla should make a version with a 2' or 3' foot long extension cable similar to how the Chademo to NACS adaptor was made. The longer cable on the adaptor would make it easier to use without blocking a 2nd charging stall.
That is not a easy solution as the cables are liquid cooled. How to you liquid cool an extension cable?
@gregpochet4812 Greg, Tesla has already said they may offer a long extension cable. I'm sure they could have a sensor that would tell the charger to reduce current to around 150 to 170 kw. The shorter the cable, the less it would heat up.
@@davidws5439 Key word "May"... My guess they don't know how to solve the problem and keep the high charging speeds. 150-170 kw is still a lot of power and heat. My guess if they do offer one, the speed will be reduced to 50kw.
@gregpochet4812 I don't think so. Lots of DC fast chargers are just plain cables, no cooling, and have been working over 12+ years. 150 kw should be No problem with a 3 foot long cable designed into the adaptor. Have you seen the Chademo adapter with the 18" to 2 foot long cable. It can be done with zero problems.
Formula is P=VI. So, 50,000 watts/ 400 volts =125 amps. So…. It’s not going to happen
Don’t you get a better price when using the Tesla app vs the Ford app when charging?
No. Same price.
Only way to get cheaper price on Tesla is to pay for the monthly subscription. Around $12/month. Then you get the same price as Tesla vehicles.
I see videos of Mach e's at tesla stations and the cable barely reaches. Is there such thing as a short nacs to ccs extension cable?. Looks like even 3' would make a huge difference.
NM, Tom just mentioned extension cables coming soon.
Would be nice if Tesla would publish a timetable for allowing various car manufacturers to charge on the TSuC network.
I'm not sure the other manufacturers could answer that question.
Any suggestions on how Out of Spec Dave and food team could have finished race?
Why not pull the Tesla out first then remove the adapter from the car?
The awkward disconnect makes is difficult for someone stealing the adapter. One can’t simply run by and take the adapter while you are away (walking the dog, buying food, using the facilities) from your vehicle.
You can't unplug it from the vehicle if the vehicle is locked - it locks to the chargeport.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney so this is different from EA? I've had someone unplug me at an EA station and my car was definitely locked.
@@jonathonervin7845 what vehicle? Almost every EV today locks the connector to the vehicle when the vehicle is locked
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Mustang Mach-E. I wonder if it's because EA has a screen that you can stop the charge from and at the superchargers you can't.
Not only did you have to pull right up to the bollard, but you had to park in the wrong spot.
I will be using the Tesla app; Ford's plug and charge does not allow you to add your subscriptions to either EA nor Tesla.
Ah yes. “Content creators” not only got them on announce day, they got a second one in the first batch.
Meanwhile, me on the West Coast, I filled out the form as soon as I woke up and found out the order form was live - only to have a shipping date of June. Ford really screwed over West Coasters by opening the order form at 6 AM our time.
I’m glad Rivian is doing it purely by “date of vehicle delivery”. Have owned your vehicle longer? Get your adapter sooner. No mad dash to fill out a web form first.
- [ ] The best solution would be if Tesla would install Magic dock on all public superchargers. It would be win-win for everybody. Even if Ford and the other manufacturer would have to pay for it, it would be cheaper to install 13,000 Magic docks, then sending out hundreds of thousands free adapters. It would be easier for the drivers because they don't have to Carry the adopter, it's already there where it needed and easier to use. And it would solve the problem of unapproved third-party adapters.
There's no reason for Tesla to pay to add MagicDock when they can just sell adapters. Plus have you seen people try to use MagicDock? Though the directions are right there in the Tesla app, even several reviewers yank on them until they jiggle it just right & the adapter releases. No reason for Tesla to pay for the wear & tear by uninformed users damaging the handle, adapter, & release mechanism.
And CCS is now as dead as Chademo. Next year when companies integrate NACS into their vehicles, why would infrastructure continue to pay to install CCS plugs? Yeah, there will still be some CCS cars out there just like Leafs are out there for years. But I'd be hard pressed as an operator to spend $10K on a CCS cable to replace it in 2 years with a NACS one. Way easier & cheaper to put adapters on the user side & just support NACS. I'd be surprised to see many (any?) new MagicDocks now.
@@kevinandabbie read my third sentence. I mentioned that other manufacturer would pay for the installation. And just because new cars from next year won't be made with CCS, there are already hundreds of thousands of fairly new Electric cars with CCS on the US roads that will be used for a long time.
People will learn to use the magic dock just as they learn to use the adapter. And what do you think what is more dangerous, somebody may damaging the magic dock, or people using some unknown cheap adapter from aliexpress ? We are talking about 13,000 Magic dock designed, made, installed, and maintained by Tesla versus hundreds of thousands of adapters from unknown origin in unknown condition.
@kevinandabbie. $10k for a cable. You’re smoking some good stuff.
Get this. The after-market adaptors may or may not be rated enough and only good for the destination chargers of far lower charging AMPS. Not worth the risk of a melt down. You'll wish you did.
After some time the adaptors will be dirty, dropped few times and eventually will melt into the CCS1 connector of ones car. Who will then pay for the repair of the car ?
How many melting issues are there with the existing CCS1 public connectors (which I imagine receive more abuse) than an adapter that gets gently used by the owner?