Tesla vs Electrify America: Ford F-150 Lightning Race From New Jersey To Florida
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Kyle Conner from Out Of Spec and I pit the Tesla Supercharger Network against the Electrify America network and race two Ford F-150 Lightning over 1,000 miles from New Jersey to Florida.
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See the race from Kyle & Dave's perspective: • 1,000 Mile F-150 Light...
Special thanks to my friend, Pete Bremy, for driving the entire 1,000 miles!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
03:45 On the road in New Jersey
07:43 Cooking fresh pizzas while we drive
15:02 Kyle gives us an update
17:23 Charging stop #1
23:22 Charging stop #2
26:31 Charging stop #3
31:58 Kyle updates us and explains how he ran out of juice
33:31 Charging stop #4
40:05 Charging stop #5
45:53 Driving to the finish line
50:19 Arriving at Buc-ees in Daytona - did we get there first?
1:00:56 I talk with Pete, Dave, and Kyle about the race
1:13:44 Back home I summarize the race
1:20:50 The trip stats
1:24:25 The cost to make the trip
1:27:52 Final thoughts
1:33:51 Outro
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Kyle and I agreed to post our videos today but Kyle ended up not finishing the editing of his video in time, so I couldn't include the link. He'll post his video in a couple of days and I'll add the link in the description as soon as he does.
Stafford !! I had that EA station on my travel list last spring going to Hatteras. The Leaf required 3 stops from here in Ohio to Frisco, NC. I stopped the night in Stafford in a very nice motel. Resting an hour I got up to visit that EA from boredom, but the Nissan dealer across the street was FREE on Rt 1. Still stopped in Newport News for scheduled 3rd stop anyway plus eat lunch next day. 1643 miles round trip, avoided DC on way home, what a mess that was, not been through DC for 40 years during an ice storm in Dec 1984. 3 ABRP stops were east of Pittsburgh EVGO Sheetz, Hancock, MD ChargePoint & Newport News, VA EVGO WAWA. Did 2 Nissan dealers on way back in VA for free. Tesla Model Y needed charge in MD on way down, no CCS adapter, Model 3 at Greenbriar Mall in Chesapeake, VA same thing down to 1%. Gas or EV I'm 2 days to Hatteras or Myrtle Beach, neck & back injuries. VotecEV on youtube
@@daviddufresne7049 Rod tripping in a Leaf makes you either a hero or a martyr.
4.8 miles per KWhour to Frisco, NC, 4.5 miles per KWhour return, avg. of 4.65 miles per KWhour. @@AhBeeDoi
It was 4.8 miles per KWH there and 4.5 miles per KWH return. ruclips.net/video/1vIoqZoQaYE/видео.html @@AhBeeDoi
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I don’t go the movies anymore. I just watch 90 minute EV-related videos 😊
Nothing like the early roadtrips with Kyle & Alyssa over an hour long. Couldn't wait to get an EV and hit the road.
Have you tried watching at 2x speed? 45 minutes is better than 90. I watch all videos at 2x, except music videos and sports highlights, lol
@@lemongavine good advice but I like to live life in the slow lane when I can! I’ll try that though 👍
yea, I can relate :-)
@@billlyl3725 I agree, but it makes these long form videos more “attainable”. I would likely skip most of them if 2x wasn’t an option
Out of Spec Mom still changing his diapers. I spit out my coffee that one! 😂
He’s a youngster around 30 with 20 some cars . I am 5 years older than Tom . I loved Tom’s comment about Kyle
@markfitzpatrick6692 Maybe so, but Kyle's reviews, his passion and ev intelligence is second to none.
After a 1,000 miles, a difference of 4 to 6 minutes is a dead heat. Great video.
According to him it was only 102 miles to 114 miles. :(
I was thinking this too. The fact that they were talking about less than ten minutes difference across 1000 miles is both a surprise success for EA and almost a tie. Good day for EV charging in general
And they would have won if EA had put its stations closer to the highway.
Ford should just stop all advertising they have for the Lighting and just use the part of this video with you heating up the pizza on the road. That is so cool! The next time someone wants to talk about how long it takes to charge an EV, I'm just going to send them this clip!!!!
Right? Can cook XX pizzas per kWh lol
Coolest car thing I have seen in a long time. lol
OMG pizza oven for a car. My life has changed forever.
Let's save some range and also let's cook pizza :D
Fuhgettaboutit
The coffee maker clinches it. 😊
Kyle needed a microwave to compete with that. Microwave dinners vs pizza oven pizzas, who has the bigger hit to efficiency?
Pizza delivery industry has forever been disrupted. Imagine your pizza being cooked WHILE it's being delivered to your home? 🤯
"You never want to leave a pepperoni on the table." Words to live by!!!!
EA being even comparable over 1000 miles is impressive, considering how poorly rated they have been in the past. Great content! Thanks.
During the daytime it would have been a different story...I am 100% confident there would have been issues
@@greenne I don't disagree. But it's impressive even if they didn't have a rush hour load on the system.. The system has to be built up to take heavier usage. But even with no load on the system this couldn't be done just a year or two ago at any time of day. It's a step forward.
@@greenne LOL. That's the only time anyone can use 100% and EA on the same sentence. That you're 100% confident there will be issues.
IN-FREAKIN-CREDIBLE! I just want a Lightning now. What an awesome race. No one else is doing content like this. This is Top Gear level competition and im so here for it!
Fresh pizza, and a cup of coffee in the middle of the night. You guys are rocking the road trip!
Exactly. As far as I'm concerned, we won!
Heating the pizza oven and the coffee maker cost you time and money!
Honestly I was more fascinated by the pizza saga than the EV part lol!
Like seriously!
Ya, I'm going to be talking about that at work. lol
It always blows my mind how close all the states are on the east coast, multiple states on one charge!
"I was driving electric back when Out of Spec Mom was changing Kyle's diapers" 🤣
It was pleasure to leave you the charger at Stafford!!! Good vidéo!!!
Tom has a camp kitchen in his lightning lol
Loved it. 3 mins is basically a photo finish after 18+ hours.
For a trip that would be done in 12 hours in a gasoline car. =) Don't get me wrong, I love EVs and own two of them (Tesla 3 and F150 Lightning), but spending 5 or 6 hours waiting to charge is a pain... especially since I have done NJ to Northeast Florida overnight numerous times. It took us 18 hours one time, to go to Palm Beach from NJ.... and that included waiting 3 hours for a tow truck and 2 hours driving in the tow truck to Savannah Georgia when the Hertz rental car blew an engine on the way... (Chrysler 200...)
@@SlavGuns Thanks for showing you didn't actually watch the video. How does going 80 MPH over 1000 miles equal 12 hours? They even broke down how long they spent charging and how long they spent actually driving.
@@Jtaugner Probably never even been in an EV. "spending 5 or 6 hours waiting to charge" totally proved your point. He never even watched the video.
I think you all summed it up well at the meeting place. You need to get out and stretch and take a break. My dad was raving about this hybrid that has 600 miles of range. I told him there's no way I could drive 600 miles straight.
Haha, Pete's Lucid hat is the perfect fashion accessory for this challenge!
That "Lucid" hat is what got them the extra .3 miles per kWh, despite using extra power on the pizza oven and coffee maker. Both of those appliances rely on heating elements, which use more than a kW each! (Shhhh...Don't tell Kyle. He'll think Dave and Pete cheated)
Damn, guys - that was a Great video! and Tom doing the Pizza Oven on the console was Epic!
The two best, Tom and Kyle made this amazing race! Fantastic story! 👏👏👏
Awesome video, and Pete is a champion.
Yes, he is!
I gave the video a like just as soon as the pizza oven came out
Overnight definitely helped. Did almost the same trip on a busy summer weekend in 2023. To avoid the EA congestion i used some of the new Circle K stations.
For sure, totally different conditions otherwise
Not to be overly critical and I'm not at the end yet so not sure who wins, but: Asking someone to give way to the faster charging station kinda defeats the purpose of the comparison doesn't it?
That depends on the rules of the race. We agreed the only restrictions we had was we wouldn't drive more than 10 mph over the limit and Kyle had to use Superchargers and I had to use CCS1 stations. Other than that, we were free to do whatever.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
I understand, but the rules you made was to demonstrate the difference between Tesla and Electrify America charging methods. If just seeing who could win was the goal, you didn't need any rules at all. It probably should have been a rule that you can't do that. You basically added to the advantage of doing the test at night to avoid one of the biggest weaknesses of Electrify America. That's my perspective, but it was a great idea to do this either way.
And that pizza oven is brilliant. I hope I can find a pizzeria in Utah that offers something similar. Cheers
Safe travels to you all. I live in South Daytona and have a 23 XLT ER and absolutely LOVE this thing. The Wife has a 21 ID4, she loves it.
I hold both of you responsible for me getting into this EV thing.
I grew up in Ocean Township myself and really miss that NY/NJ Pizza and the buttered hard rolls at WaWA.
Maybe Ill see you guy around town.
Have fun
Regardless of the outcome, the whole thing was a win! To show that charging is getting better and better.
LMaooo the pizza oven
MYP owner here, you came close to selling me on the Lightning. Maybe I will get a test drive in real soon. I traded my F150 in for the MYP. I do like the larger space of the truck but I really enjoy the Tesla. Should be good competition in the future. Still looks like a few more years before larger mainstream adaptation due to the FUD that the entire country is going through about changing to EV's. The entire episode is just resistance to change.
Was in the same boat as you, and decided on the Cybertruck. You get a pickup that's about the same size as an F150, same bed size and interior cabin. BUT you get all the Tesla benefits. It's an amazing vehicle.
@@KennyGreenPersonal Yah okay,,,, Benefits? like the CT purse frunk and lack of the million accessories the F150's have. To each their own. I was intrigued when they said it would be getting 500 miles of range for 39k. Which is then cheap for putting up with all the short comings. If prices were at par, I would definitely take the lightning. Just waiting to see what Ford does with its next gen in 2025 before I go for it.
@@darpompie4354 the CT was never gonna get 500 miles from the initial 40k base price when it debuted. The estimated range was 250 miles.
On the other end, I was hoping for the 500 miles from the top spec CT, but it's only gonna be 470 miles.
@@KennyGreenPersonal Tesla "benefits", like rust, shoddy workmanship, ridicules pricing etc.
And I thought Pizza for a Buck was revolutionary! A pizza oven for a car is just more amazing!
all fun and games until you wreck and a 350 degree oven is on your face
Great trip Tom and Kyle 👏🏻
"He Kyle, how are those potato chips"!
Cut to Kyle's truck -- back seat full of chips!
That pizza oven is like the modern day version of the baked potato on the motor under the hood.
Tom, just ordered my pizza oven for my Lightning! Wish I would have known of this oven when I did my USA trip in my Lightning this past summer. Hit 44 states and did 10,000 miles in 3 weeks.
Cool. You'll love it
That pizza oven is so dangerous! But certainly creative!! 😆
What an epic race and epic video you produced. I love this kind of content. Thank you so much for sharing your experience, Tom! ❤
EA along I-95 corridor is generally overcrowded during the day. Traffic at these stations has been increasing in recent years and wait lines are typical.
Not a problem for Ford EV drivers anymore. And by the end of this year, it won't be a problem for most EV drivers. I doubt any will use EA or EVgo anymore unless they have a 800v EV. And at that, that's only for times and areas where Tesla doesn't yet have an 800v V4 nearby. And they're basically only installing those from here on out. And they install 20 plus stalls per week.
@@Paul-cj1wbIf they come out west they are going to wait. Even Teslas wait at tesla stations.
@@PumpUptheJam81 It's simple -- never charge during peak times. I look at the Tesla mobile app and only charge up when there are plenty of free stalls and it's cheaper to charge. It even tells you which Teslas are heading to that specific station you have selected so you can plan around that as well.
It's the same with those that don't fill their tanks up on their ICE vehicles prior to going to the beach during summer time and have to wait in long lines on the highway on the way there and pay much higher prices. I have never understood that logic.
Super entertaining episode, Tom! I’ll bet that Keurig at Walmart was cheaper than three of Kyle’s Starbucks. And, yes, Pete rocks! 🤘
Great show! Interesting to think that this is the stone age of chargers and their locations. Thank you for taking the time to do this. Like any good experiment, lots of what if questions after it was done, fun!
You guys are great fun to watch. Good job!
What an incredible and entertaining video! Thanks, Tom!
Finally a race worth watching. Love this post.
What a fantastic video. First ever race between none Tesla vehicles that can charge using both NACS and CCS ports. This should be saved forever. It's historic. I just subscribed because of this video. Can't wait for the video on the way back.
Had to charge on our route from VT to FL. Planned was Tesla Supercharger N Daytona. Found out was a Buc-ees. The one you and Kyle ended your race at. Glad I knew what entrance to go into thanks to your video. Great help and thank you. Buc-ees is AN EXPERIENCE !!!!! Thanks again Tom. Always great content.
Awesome guys! Love these kind of videos!
This was a great video, Tom!! Loved you and Pete on road trip. Reminded me of Cannonball Run or Gumball Rally movies. Well done and love that pizza oven and frozen pizza!!
Gee Tom - Pete Bremy was "Keepin' (you) Hangin' on!" Wow, what a blast from the past!
Fun times!
Fantastic testing and surprising result. Well done, dudes.
Keurig…. nooo! That plug can handle an electric kettle, a decent drip kit and a hand grinder would be much better coffee! And, Stocking Mill Coffee Roasters is in Daytona, could have nabbed some awesome beans!
But really, it’s a very impressive vehicle with all those plugs, offers a lot of options. I’m impressed, Ford has a great start on their EV models! 22:36
One of the reasons I bought the lightning, as a RUclipsr I can charge all my camera gear on site, wherever that is...
Pete is a driving beast! 😮 Thanks for the informative video.
Pizza oven in the f150 is classic, great content
I really enjoyed watching this! I want a lightening now!
Well done...kept me engaged most of the video.
Great race,and really equal in real terms. Exciting banter and speculations during the race. Thanks for the ride. I bought a Tesla based partly on the reliability and availability of the Supercharger network. I happy to see that Electrify America is stepping up their game.
One more thing......... Portable pizza oven. How cool is that? Still watching....
Mathematically, there was no statistical difference between EA and Tesla Supercharger network. Great run and I'm stoked for what's to come.
Love it! you guys are great!
Tom, you make a great butler for Pete. Haha 😄
Great content. Thank you 😊
Love everything about this video. Also more Pete in future videos!
Amazing roadtrip video Tom. Kudos to Pete. He's the champ.
Fun video guys. Pete's a beast. 1000 miles. Wow.
Great drive and a great video
Great video, loved it. Nice work gents 👍
Very enjoyable video! I hope EA has actually stepped up its game and Tom's experience in not an outlier.
The major problem with EA is congestion. Far too few stalls in many locations. Travel during the daytime would be a very different experience.
@JackRussell021Been watching the rollout of many new charging networks on the Network Architect Channel.
It's nice to see chargers going in at so many new sites. But very sad to see that most have only four stalls, and the rest mostly just six or eight.
Those sites will all have congestion issues two years from now.
Awesome video! I live in NC now and used to live in Florida. I can't wait to do that trip on my new Lariat.
Best video you've done, Tom.
Great competition !!!!
Can't believe I just watched this for +90min. CONGRATS! This was awesome. As a 2 year EV owner who use to love road-tripping I now find it painful to do road trips requiring more then 1 stop. I just can't handle the multitude of stops required + the "1 hour" duration it takes each time. No big deal in big scheme of things as I only take 2-3 road-trips a year and most require < 7 hours of driving (which take me almost +9hrs hours in my Polestar 2, and in the past I would be done in 7.5hrs). OK, now time for Kyle's video :)
Fantastic vid and thanks for the inspiration! Can’t wait to put in an espresso maker and small oven for baked goods on next road trip!😅
Very cool, nice work everyone!
Great video..
Well done I listen to the whole thing.
Fantastic Plus for Electric, Thank You and Pete Rock On !
Wow , surprisingly close !!!
Fantastic video.
Great video!
It seems that during any busy time of day, the Electrify America network will soon be relegated to mostly cars that are still not able to access the Tesla network, and that this will happen more and more over time as there are more EVs in general, and as the Tesla network continues to grow at a healthy pace...
Overcrowding on CCS stations is already a problem with the free juice given away by 20 car brands. I see VW ID4 coffee clutches at EA chargers in my area while the women shop at outlet stores.
got to love these ev race challenges
Awesome video! I just went on a road trip this past weekend in my Lightning and charged at 2 tesla stations using the A2Z adapter. If not for the tesla superchargers, i would've had to make long detours just to be able to make the trip. These are exciting times for ev owners!
Enjoyed the video and some points were 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for your (& your "pilot's") efforts!
Buckeys for the win with those beaver pellets and brisket! I just noticed we basically have the same truck lol and I put the same F150 Lightning logo on the back of mine because its the best!!! Awesome video!!!
If RUclips had an award ceremony for content, this would be in it. 😂the pizza was amazing and worth it.
OK, really fun video and Tom, congratulations are in order. If you haven't seen the announcement, Mary Barra got tired of your grumbling. When Chevy lifted the stop sale on the Blazer, they quietly mentioned they upgraded the software to include a % SoC display. First Kyle saves the Bolt and now you get us some hard data. You guys are EV Titans!
Really? I didn't hear that. I've been relentlessly trolling them for years now to do that.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Oh, I know believe me. It's buried in an article at GMAuthority by Jonathan Lopez dated March 8 about the lifting of the stop sale and price drop. I wouldn't have noticed it if it didn't immediately make think "Tom's gonna take a victory lap." Quote: "revised Driver Info Center graphics that incorporate a battery percentage dispaly."
Was waiting!
I drove my 23 ID4 for 15 months / 22,000 miles using Electrify America and wanted to switch to the Lightning after watching this and Sea to Sea race.
Picked up a new 2023 Lightning XLT Extended Range last Thur and love it. Waiting for Tesla adapter. I just got this message about charger. “Your Ford Charge Station Pro order # has been shipped.” I can’t wait to be fully set up with charging without having to rely on EA.
Pete drove the whole way but Kyle made Dave push
Thanks, Tom. Great entertainment and yes, it was a long one, but justified. I think that you went on a mission to show A and ended up showing B. A: no difference between the two networks. B: You can drive electric truck from NJ to FL fairly quickly with no anxiety of any kind. And this is very positive message next to the videos of e-trucks towing heavy mis-shaped trailers with complaints on range and charging. Well done. I have tons of data from my trip to FL so my complete report is heavily overdue. My mission was different and that's how we need to be. Show that EVs are good for everyone.
What a great video!🤓👍
Awesome content. Good to have choices when charging. F150 is very comfortable for road trips.
😂 this is so funny. I am actually on this almost same trip when I saw this video. I’m traveling to and from Dover DE and Sanford Fl. I’m mostly using EA but I’ve also found that Buc-ee’s also has 400w CCS EV charging. And they right off the interstate, and work well. Great video BTW.
Love this video. There's just something about EV road trips I find satisfying.
You guys rock! You have done a great service for the movement to electrification of transportation. Wonder what you’re gonna do five years from now when all of this will be a history and driving an electric car will become the norm in America.😂
Tom, you know how to road trip, fresh pizza and coffee!
The essentials.
My experience charging at 150kw EA stations in my Lightning is the same as that of your 350kw EA stations. 150 stations still ramp up past 150 into the high 170’s.
Anyone contemplating buying an EV, any EV, needs to watch this video or Kyle's video.🤔
This blue color is niceeeeee. Great video!
Excellent video Tom and Pete. 3 mins over 1k miles - I’d call that a draw and with double the chargers Ford is the winner!
Definitely a win for EVs all around. Awesome job guys.
2 of my favorite stops on my round trips from Florida to Baltimore are EA in Stafford VA and Sheetz in Rocky Mount NC. Been to EA once in Florence and yes sketchy folk there then.
We avoid Florence if possible due to equipment reliabilities and lately overcrowding.
Wow! What a trip. The Ford Lightning did great!
Tom the pizza thing is the best weird fun idea ever.
"I can't complain a single bit about EA charging infrastructure". except almost every stop had out-of-service chargers - and only a couple that worked!
Imagine doing a road trip and having to wait two cars back for a charger.
Miraculously none of the charging stations they used had any out of service chargers. How could that possibly happen?