The Giraffe and Zebra Connection Foreshadows Everything

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  • Опубликовано: 1 сен 2020
  • A symbolic pair of encounters tells us much about the dynamic fate of Ellie and Abby, as well as serving as a testament to the narrative craft of Neil Druckmann and Halley Gross. From the medieval folklore of the Maiden and the Sacred Creature to Abby entering the Belly of the Whale, we take a deep dive into the many hidden meanings of the exotic animal encounter connection that Ellie and Abby share in The Last of Us Parts I and II.
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  • @WolfofThorns
    @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +34

    Hey, guys, thank you so much for the love and support! If you are really digging my content, please consider checking me out on Twitch where I stream every day: www.twitch.tv/wolf_of_thorns Once again, thank you all for being a part of my channel and this evolving experience! 🤠❤🤠

  • @stevenstrattonjr
    @stevenstrattonjr 3 года назад +1336

    Also, I haven't seen anyone mention this - The very beginning of the first day in Seattle, Ellie is describing Joel being drowned by a hunter. And at the end of the game, *she* becomes the hunter drowning Abby, who becomes a sort of parallel to Joel. I think Ellie makes this connection, and is one of the reasons why she hesitates to kill Abby.

    • @sandromercadobustinza6339
      @sandromercadobustinza6339 3 года назад +141

      Yooo this is actually amazing, Its sad you cant hear the thoughts of the characters in a media like film or videogames, but you can do it in books. Prove that every form of art offers something different

    • @Micheal93k
      @Micheal93k 3 года назад +16

      Mentioned this before, glad I'm not the only one who noticed. 👍

    • @jdottdeestv8149
      @jdottdeestv8149 3 года назад +5

      Joel was being drowned by a hunter in TLOU and Ellie shot him in the head, basically her first kill. That's why she didn't tell Dina the whole story while they where on the horse, 1/5th of the way into the game. Nice try tho.
      Edit: Forgot an A

    • @stevenstrattonjr
      @stevenstrattonjr 3 года назад +63

      @@jdottdeestv8149 nothing about your comment disproves my point lol

    • @Micheal93k
      @Micheal93k 3 года назад +25

      @@stevenstrattonjr yeah, I was reading his comment like "what's your point?"

  • @anthonytoro3103
    @anthonytoro3103 3 года назад +890

    I didn’t realize they both happened at the same place and hours apart 👁👄👁

    • @Vambiche
      @Vambiche 3 года назад +1

      How

    • @anthonytoro3103
      @anthonytoro3103 3 года назад +36

      @@Vambiche I didn’t realize they were at the same zoo

    • @Vambiche
      @Vambiche 3 года назад +1

      @@anthonytoro3103 how😂 the show the hospital and say they found someone immune

    • @anthonytoro3103
      @anthonytoro3103 3 года назад +60

      @@Vambiche I know that. I just forgot that Ellie and Joel crossed through the zoo to get to the hospital. I didn’t put it together that it was the same zoo

    • @patriciajin6206
      @patriciajin6206 3 года назад

      Woah

  • @stevenstrattonjr
    @stevenstrattonjr 3 года назад +418

    I love that you pointed out how the herd of giraffes moving on from the scene representing the finality of Ellie's innocence. I feel like at this point in the story of the first game, the creators knew that Ellie was never going to play the same type of character that she was in the first game. That moment represents the death of that hopeful optimist we know her as.

    • @psychedelicyeti6053
      @psychedelicyeti6053 3 года назад

      v.v

    • @cptpugsy
      @cptpugsy Год назад +7

      i agree. that's why it bothers me when people claim ellie was characterised differently as a complaint of the second game when it's only natural after everything she's been through.

  • @jessemastro
    @jessemastro 3 года назад +239

    What’s interesting about the scene in part II with the Zebra is that it could be looked at as a direct parallel to Abby and her time during Seattle.
    Abby’s trapped by the actions of someone else, Joel killing her father. Similarly to the Zebra, she’s left in a state of rage until someone helps her get free from her trap. Lev’s relationship with Abby frees her from her place with the WLF, mending her wound with kindness and trust while showcasing that the world isn’t all dark and hateful, and that it doesn’t have to be.

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +10

      Absolutely, Jesse.

    • @marcileatherboots1
      @marcileatherboots1 3 года назад +1

      @Jesse Mastropasqua ... Dude...bravo!

    • @marcileatherboots1
      @marcileatherboots1 3 года назад +21

      @@crazyinsane500 ... With that comment, you have the perfect screen name because that comment is not only crazy, it is batshit insane. Abby, in the referenced flashback, also tells her dad, *"If it was me, I'd want you to do the surgery.* Meaning, she'd be just like Ellie and to sacrifice herself if it meant saving humanity. That is not something a "bloodthirsty" person would do. Furthermore, in Jackson...Abby could have easily killed, or had someone in her crew, kill Tommy and Ellie and she let them both live. Again, not something a bloodthirsty person would do. I swear, some of you haters just invent absurd shit out of thin air to attempt to justify your weak sauce analysis.

    • @marcileatherboots1
      @marcileatherboots1 3 года назад +13

      @@crazyinsane500 ... Good gawd, you're just making shit up to fit your irrational, "I hate Abby" narrative.
      1. In that scene where she tells her dad if ot was her, she'd want him to do the surgery, she's like 16 years old and you're expecting her to have an adult type of conversation where she philosophically addresses every conceivable other alternative? Your unrealistic expectations are, unrealistic.
      2. Abby has 2 chances to kill Ellie and Tommy and she lets them live both times even though they pretty much slaughtered all her friends.
      3. Abby, after spending the night with Owen, decides to risk her life to go back to save Lev and Yara. Then, she and Lev embark on a quest to find surgical supplies so Mel can remove Yara's injured forearm. And she puts herself at great personal risk during this process.
      All of these actions, completely disprove every claim you've made.
      In summary, you've got an absurd and irrational hate agenda against Abby. You're making up shit which has zero basis in narrative, dialogue, and gameplay.

  • @pizrux6592
    @pizrux6592 3 года назад +968

    “You see.... everything happens for a reason” 😏

    • @TheMETALICA40
      @TheMETALICA40 3 года назад +43

      For some reason I read it in Davids voice

    • @davidlindsay6274
      @davidlindsay6274 3 года назад +5

      I was your 100th like

    • @davidlindsay6274
      @davidlindsay6274 3 года назад +5

      @@jasonschwarz5878 for a good reasons the game is good

    • @davidlindsay6274
      @davidlindsay6274 3 года назад

      @@jasonschwarz5878 you keep telling yourself that I'm not up for this stupid pointless debate. Enjoy the rest of your day

    • @TheMETALICA40
      @TheMETALICA40 3 года назад

      @@davidlindsay6274 Stages of Grief I know how he feels I feel the same way

  • @thiccytimmy9712
    @thiccytimmy9712 3 года назад +336

    If only we could study this for our English GCSE’s instead of a Christmas Carol

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +60

      A future that awaits us, I hope, and, in an educational system that needs complete reform, from the top to the bottom.

    • @savvyhowe1646
      @savvyhowe1646 3 года назад +10

      @@WolfofThorns agreed, it's sad that schools are so set in their ways that it ends up hurting the students they're supposed to be helping, video games are such a great story telling medium but because of the bad rep they get from parents and teachers they don't use it and it really hinders their teaching environment.

    • @x_edith_x3828
      @x_edith_x3828 3 года назад +2

      I’m doing the Christmas carol now 😭

    • @thiccytimmy9712
      @thiccytimmy9712 3 года назад

      @@x_edith_x3828 I’ve moved onto animal farm and doing Macbeth in September

    • @crazybabuskaman3923
      @crazybabuskaman3923 2 года назад

      We are doing two books, of mice and men and heroes. Of mice and men is great, heroes is quite lame and boring but the ending is somewhat like tlou2.

  • @RinasaurusRex
    @RinasaurusRex 3 года назад +474

    Aw man, I'm so glad you pointed out the symbolism of the whale and the giant squid! I was just looking at the start of Abby's Day 3, the gift shop scene with Abby and Yara, and noticed you pass through those giant tentacles again as you traverse down to the lower floor of the gift shop... and at that very moment, Ellie is on her way toward the aquarium, hunting her. 🦑

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +35

      That's a great observation, Rina!

  • @TheFreshTrumpet
    @TheFreshTrumpet 3 года назад +43

    The importance I saw in the zebra scene was the line “she’s in pain; we gotta cut her loose.” Can’t think of a better line that foreshadows what Abby and Ellie ended up doing for each other and what the devs want the player to do, too. We saw how much she suffered and wish she had done this with Joel, but we can’t let her go? Game’s a hell of a mirror if you look at it the right way

  • @lshe97
    @lshe97 3 года назад +465

    The unicorn, belly of the whale, whale vs giant squid, the prey animals comparison... how do you notice these things??

    • @tj2gaming631
      @tj2gaming631 3 года назад +18

      being smart. I wish that was me.

    • @stevenstrattonjr
      @stevenstrattonjr 3 года назад +21

      Literature class help a lot lol

    • @thedreamcapture2681
      @thedreamcapture2681 3 года назад +16

      Its pretty damn obvious if you studied literature, the whale is from the story of pinnochio, the chart he threw up is basic lit, how basic stories work because they have structure. As for the animal stuff its mostly conjecture and personal interpretation i personally disagree with most of the things said here but its backed up reasonably well (ellies animal is a deer imo ) . I do not think the zebra foreshadows the death of abbies friends either but explains the intentions of the fireflies clearly and quickly.

    • @dingus_doofus
      @dingus_doofus 3 года назад +4

      @@thedreamcapture2681 The whale trope started AT LEAST with the story of Jona in the bible. I have no doubt that the unicorn and maiden trope is a real thing, although the connection to these animals and situations is a bit weak. The rest is conjecture to a large extend, but so is most of literary interpretation.

    • @taqunuzuqu8938
      @taqunuzuqu8938 3 года назад

      @@thedreamcapture2681 A deer? Why and how? I mean, there might be a lot of deers in the game etc but how do you connect it with Ellie? From character point of view she has basically no touching points with a deer.

  • @welcum2mywurldtv
    @welcum2mywurldtv 3 года назад +79

    This video didn't note the final siting of a giraffe in the Last of Us part II: When Ellie and Dina get out of the blizzard, you will come across the lone giraffe in the game, which appears right before Ellie has sex with Dina and ultimately Ellie witnessing Joel's murder. This final shot of a giraffe is symbolic of Ellie's loss of innocence.

  • @kauansantos7293
    @kauansantos7293 3 года назад +1114

    As obvious as it is, I never thought until now that Ellie's encounter with the Giraffe and Abby's encounter with the Zebra happened just a few hours apart from each other.
    Those parallels are just incredible, and the unicorn comparison + barbed wire reference from the first game just blew my mind. Also, the foreshadowing with the Zebra and the Giraffe, just makes so much sense that I'm a little mad I didn't realize it myself hahahah thankfully you adressed this on the video!
    I also love the fact that animals are not affected by the cordyceps in TLoU's universe. The idea of nature taking over is much stronger when there's a sprawling wildlife, and it shows that life on the planet moves on despite what happens to humans.

    • @eat_pray_porg8450
      @eat_pray_porg8450 3 года назад +41

      Neil Druckmann did mention that when they were initially coming up with the idea of the infected in the first game, they wondered if animals would be infected in a similar manner, too. Can you imagine a large creature like an elephant or a bear infected with cordyceps as well?!? Holy crap!!!

    • @halloweenjack95
      @halloweenjack95 3 года назад +27

      @@eat_pray_porg8450 honestly i am glad they didnt

    • @marcileatherboots1
      @marcileatherboots1 3 года назад +13

      @Kauan ... I concur. It never really hit me either until I saw this video that, yes, Ellie's encounter with the giraffe and Abby's encounter with the zebra are mere hours apart in the time line.

    • @markofthedevil845
      @markofthedevil845 3 года назад +1

      @@eat_pray_porg8450 months b4 release i heard of zombie dogs n stuff

    • @EternalNightingale
      @EternalNightingale 3 года назад +2

      tbh earth is better off without humans were just parasites leeching off the earth I’m too WOKE rn gn

  • @XoThanaleeoX
    @XoThanaleeoX 3 года назад +191

    When I thought this game couldn’t be any more detailed. Wow.

  • @TLOUStrategist
    @TLOUStrategist 3 года назад +428

    I recently discovered your channel, & I really love the time an attention you put into your videos! Excellent analysis & editing... I’ve been hoping for more in-depth video essays on The Last of Us, and you’ve produced quite a few. I hope the community show some more support for your channel, you deserve it! 😉👍

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +20

      It's an honor to have you here, T-Strat. Thank you for all that you do to bring our community together. Looking forward to #TheLastofUsNews on the regular.

    • @stevenstrattonjr
      @stevenstrattonjr 3 года назад +4

      This is why I love the story. It's like picking apart a story in a literature class. The depth, themes, and metaphors, and other literary devices beyond anything that's ever been put in a game. I've played the game almost non-stop since it came out, and I'm *still* making connections that I missed before.

    • @colder8741
      @colder8741 3 года назад

      Great attempt!

  • @yeehawww5345
    @yeehawww5345 3 года назад +85

    Joel in Tlou1 : I guess no matter how hard you try you can’t escape your past

    • @MM-hi
      @MM-hi 3 года назад +10

      Joel in tlou1: It's called luck, and it is gonna run out

    • @anwayamagare
      @anwayamagare 3 года назад +5

      Joel in Tlous1 : "there was a sequel, not as good as the first one"

    • @yeehawww5345
      @yeehawww5345 3 года назад +4

      @@anwayamagare in my opinion the second is better but i still love the first

    • @johnlawful2272
      @johnlawful2272 3 года назад +2

      @@anwayamagare could be a representation of not having the father daughter goodness story cause it got grittier

  • @jmcman6104
    @jmcman6104 3 года назад +87

    I love how Neil made all of these connections between Abby and Ellie. At one point, both Joel and Abby’s father say to their “daughters” “I’m glad I’m getting through”

  • @aestheticstorm4771
    @aestheticstorm4771 3 года назад +12

    Author: there is no meaning
    Any teacher ever: I object

  • @wutitdo0
    @wutitdo0 3 года назад +20

    i love finding out about carefully placed little details like this.

  • @JA-uz2uk
    @JA-uz2uk 3 года назад +53

    Your explanation of the relation to these is beyond me. Never did I even consider the symbolism regarding these two, although, I do recall the giraffe scene in P1 and thought it was similar to the zebra scene in Abby P2, but I never actually deciphered it to this extent. That's what separates LOU vs Days Gone. Both are very good games with good stories, but LOU is just a league of its own. And no matter how we try to make sense of it all, ND will come up with something totally different. I didn't expect to control Abby. I would only think P2 would just be strictly Joel and Ellie again. LOU is not just the story, it's the emotion while playing the game which draws the player in. This game isn't like a movie, it's like an experience.

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +5

      I feel the same way, J A. I enjoyed Days Gone from an adventure/open world standpoint, but good god, it was hard to suffer the story, the shallow characters, and people not acting like real people. There was virtually no organic depiction of the human condition in that game and they lost a perfect opportunity for some real tension amidst the post apocalyptic backdrop.

  • @vladimirimp
    @vladimirimp 3 года назад +16

    This is what I love about art and stories. To a lot of people it's two emotional scenes with animals, reflecting or exposing the personalities of the main characters. And then there are people like the video author who can draw all kinds of emotional and thematic conclusions in a way that is beautiful and adds even more to the experience.

  • @ms.talmania4905
    @ms.talmania4905 3 года назад +9

    the serene final shot of the freed zebra and its baby could also be foreshadowing abby's eventual status as a caregiver to lev. both abby and lev were "herd animals." (abby with the wlf and her friends, and lev with the seraphites) and now they're alone with only each other, just like the zebras.
    adding on to this, the scene is interrupted with owen bringing the news of ellie and joel arriving at the hospital, which also foreshadows abby and lev's originally peaceful time in santa barbara being interrupted by the rattlers.

  • @TheBiakko
    @TheBiakko 3 года назад +16

    1:48 hummm the 5 years in Jackson of Ellie wasn’t all sunshine and rainbows. As seen in TLOU2, her relationship with Joel was seriously going down...

    • @axelalvarado7439
      @axelalvarado7439 3 года назад +6

      Still beats living out in the open world fighting anything and everything constantly. I’m sure it was sunshine and rainbows for Ellie cuz of how the world is, just not when it came to Joel.

    • @TheBiakko
      @TheBiakko 3 года назад

      @@axelalvarado7439 you are right. Yet many, including Wolf, theorize that after Part II Ellie might leave Jackson and venture on her own. That would be suicidal. Ellie knows better than anyone how dangerous the outside world. She will need a pretty good reason to leave Jackson again and I hope Part III will give us one.

    • @axelalvarado7439
      @axelalvarado7439 3 года назад +3

      I’d rather have a Joel game. Both games focused on Ellie and her story, but how much do we know about Joel and his story of survival? Neil said the Last of Us isn’t the Last of Us without Joel and Ellie, but seems like it’s just about Ellie lol

    • @TheBiakko
      @TheBiakko 3 года назад

      @@axelalvarado7439 it’s definitely Ellie story because of her immunity. And Joel is part of it because he fucked up the only hope for a vaccine. My guess is in Part III will try to find a way to repair Joel’s mistake.

  • @wtfisthis96
    @wtfisthis96 3 года назад +26

    Guys, I have a curiosity that I saw in the game, when Ellie climbs to a site and sees Nora's hospital from afar, on the right, in the background you can see the bridge that Abby and Lev fell over, and if you look a little more, you can see Lev and Abby !!

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +9

      If so, this is an awesome find. I will have to take a look.

    • @wtfisthis96
      @wtfisthis96 3 года назад +2

      @@WolfofThorns thank u!!

    • @shambhvilokre
      @shambhvilokre Год назад

      @@7aiderinho10 did you find it yet?

  • @robuelo
    @robuelo 3 года назад +4

    i also think that the baby zebra resembles lev though. the after birth that came with the baby means that lev changed abby to being a better person, right after they cut her free from being barb wired she runs off to look for her baby. just like abby did when he ran off to the seraphite island. details you dont think much of when youre playing it yourself but it all makes perfect sense afterwards :D

  • @eat_pray_porg8450
    @eat_pray_porg8450 3 года назад +6

    Another great video, Dan! Great mention of "The Hero's Journey" (and subsequently "The Hero With A Thousand Faces"). Many people who have detested the game forget that (which you also stated in this video) both Ellie and Abby come from circumstances out of their control, although their fates are intertwined. Great analysis!

  • @yikyikes3445
    @yikyikes3445 3 года назад +8

    dude,,,,someone shared a video of yours on twitter and i was interested but didn't think id like your videos sm !!! you really look into things with creativity and intelligence and i think thats awesome!!!

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад

      Aw, thanks! That really means a lot to me. Someone is sharing my vids on twitter? No way! It's been a real struggle to get optics on my channel.

    • @yikyikes3445
      @yikyikes3445 3 года назад +1

      @@WolfofThorns i saw someone reply to a tweet with your tlou3 video and they said it was a good video so i watched it!! idk if they really spread it around, but if i saw it im sure other people will too !

  • @m2ral
    @m2ral 3 года назад +124

    I won't lie, a LOT of this made a lot of sense but at the same time, seemed quite far fetched but I love your take on this! Very interesting! Keep up the good work!

    • @shauna5395
      @shauna5395 3 года назад +9

      Same, it’s a good analysis but I wonder if the devs intended this connection. Great video nonetheless!

    • @stevenstrattonjr
      @stevenstrattonjr 3 года назад +22

      The devs definitely intended this. They even said they did a *ton* of research in movies and books surrounding these very subjects.

    • @huskytzu7709
      @huskytzu7709 3 года назад +6

      Small little details like these are probably only noticeable to people who look for them. It’s not in your face like “look here’s what this scene means it parallels the very cool scene from the first game” but it’s more subtle.

    • @stevenstrattonjr
      @stevenstrattonjr 3 года назад +11

      @@huskytzu7709 For sure, and that's one of the things that makes this game so replayable imo. I'm still catching things I missed before. The story is like literature in a lot of ways.

    • @JeerJer
      @JeerJer 3 года назад +1

      @@shauna5395 It's rare to have this much connections and them being a coincidence.
      This type of stuff has been in many TV series and often being confirmed by writers. Look at Breaking Bad for example.
      Nothing makes me think game developers wouldn't do this. Especially with a game like this.
      Even Call of Duty has had this kind of stuff in them and the Call of Duty stuff is actually good as well.

  • @Timothymukansi
    @Timothymukansi 3 года назад +23

    Damn! Incredible observation and analysis. Naughty Dog really put effort into this masterpiece.
    Definitely subscribing.

  • @ManlyPelican
    @ManlyPelican 3 года назад +2

    Dude, I've just discovered your channel and as someone who finds it hard to articulate how i feel about this game you nail it. Thank you. Subscribed.

  • @_spt-warwolf_4575
    @_spt-warwolf_4575 3 года назад +5

    This is brilliant, Naughty Dog utilizes animal imagery everywhere in The Last of Us. Other examples include how Joel is often associated with the buck/deer. Examples of this are in the first game, where Ellie is chasing a buck through the woods during the Winter chapter before finding it dead from some strangers. In Part II, she searches for Joel in a blizzard before finding him dying at the hands of Abby. Abby and her friends are also often associated with wolves. Mainly cause the wolf is the mascot of the WLF and that's what the Seraphites call them. One of the more subtle ones is in Ellie's birthday flashback, she sees an exhibit in the wildlife section of a wolf pack attacking a moose (a member of the deer family).

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад

      Indeed, yes, we talk about these observations in our Wolf symbolism video--it's great stuff

  • @mustafarahmanzai652
    @mustafarahmanzai652 3 года назад +3

    This video was amazing, amount of details you put in it just blows my mind. I hadn’t thought about the animals in that way at all and I’m glad you brought it to many peoples attention!

  • @ryderpettis4703
    @ryderpettis4703 3 года назад +5

    yo honestly this is mindblowing

  • @marcostomasbogado6220
    @marcostomasbogado6220 3 года назад +110

    Developers: "Yeah, put a zebra there, i think it would look nice..."
    RUclipsrs: "let's analyze the zebra scene and the deep meaning of it..."

    • @Ratchetti
      @Ratchetti 3 года назад +1

      This...

    • @erickwenner6578
      @erickwenner6578 3 года назад +21

      If you really believe this, you don't have any notion on narrative. You ser, everything is there for a reason. Every color, every figure, lightning, dark scenes, etc. That's cinematography for you and if you can't tell that, then you're just blinded by the hate that this game has bring to the community of TLOU (for no aparent reason) and clearle demostrates that you might be a stretch minded person

    • @marcostomasbogado6220
      @marcostomasbogado6220 3 года назад +24

      @@erickwenner6578 it's just a joke man... Relax and enjoy life...

    • @edhopurnama
      @edhopurnama 3 года назад +1

      lol @ the defensive dude

    • @zsurvivalist7996
      @zsurvivalist7996 3 года назад +2

      @@erickwenner6578 yes but if you look at something like evengelion it has symbolic christian imagery just to look cool.

  • @TheSmorris92
    @TheSmorris92 3 года назад +37

    Of course you play THAT song in the background. I’m not crying, you’re crying.

  • @gasbulla8141
    @gasbulla8141 3 года назад +13

    Awesome! Looking forward to more content like this.

  • @senseweaver01
    @senseweaver01 3 года назад +1

    This is actually a really good catch! This is my first time seeing one of your videos and I'm glad I stumbled on your channel man! Brilliant work

  • @taecvrses
    @taecvrses 3 года назад +1

    this is an awesome analysis and so beautifully crafted! like im in awe right now! it’s been like 5 months since the game came out and i still love finding out new analysis pieces. im definitely subscribing and amazing job!

  • @tanner791
    @tanner791 3 года назад +1

    Your analysis is amazing. So well read and informed of typical Mythos storytelling! Can’t wait for your vids on pt 3. And everything between them!

  • @They_are_Arthur
    @They_are_Arthur 3 года назад +5

    This is extremely well thought out. I knew there was a connection between Ellie and Abby's respective animal scenes, I just didn't think too much about other factors like the environment and other instances within the game that showcased these animals.
    EDIT: I also want to point out that the Zebra escaped with assistance from a trap and ran off to take care of a little Zebra, much like how Abby was hung and then saved, and later took care of Lev.

  • @FluffyPoopPrincess
    @FluffyPoopPrincess 3 года назад

    Nice! Them meeting the animals just hours apart blew my mind! And I appreciate the unicorn clip from Legend, it's such a beautiful scene and a rad movie!

  • @cauancarvalho9581
    @cauancarvalho9581 3 года назад +3

    Hey Wolf, here's a new fan from Brazil with nothing but compliments for your TLOU2 videos, your analyzes and symbolism studies are complex, beautiful and unbelievable!
    And well, I guess I was lying when I said nothing but compliments, because I also have a request. I watched all of your TLOU2 videos and I loved when you used the Hero's Journey theory to explain Ellie and Abby's paths. You really seem to have a deep knowledge of that theory, and I would love so much to watch a video of you explaining this theory in your own words with your didactic way.
    Anyway, please consider my request. I found your channel only a few days ago and I already know I'm gonna be a regular viewer!

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +1

      Hey there, Cauan! Thank you for your kind words and welcome to the channel. I have a video on empathy in The Last of Us coming out here in a few hours. I may yet do more videos on aspects of the Hero's Journey in TLOU2, as you have requested. We'll just have to see how things pan out. Thank you for your kind words and your suggestion.

  • @ClaireShrugged
    @ClaireShrugged 3 года назад

    I love your video essays. They're expertly reasoned, well edited, and always thought-provoking. Thank you.

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад

      Aw, thank you for saying so, Claire. It is a joy to share my thoughts and feelings on this wonderful piece of art🤠

  • @vigneshkumaru7063
    @vigneshkumaru7063 3 года назад +1

    You have got 1 more subscriber mate,what an explanation! clearly shows how much you've researched on to this. Keep doing, you have my eyes on you mate....all the best,stay safe bro

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +1

      Thank you, Vigneshkumar, and welcome to the channel! You stay safe as well.

  • @LiaraGaming
    @LiaraGaming 3 года назад +3

    This is an interesting analysis. I always interpreted the zebra and her young as representing Yara and Lev. The zebra is scarred by the barbed wire, representing the "Scars." And although the zebra is freed, I doubted her ability to survive. Yara's condition with her arm is the same. I also thought the reason Abby dreams about Yara and Lev in place of her dad is because she knows her dad would have helped the two of them just like he helped the zebra. But I enjoyed your video, and you pointed out things I hadn't noticed before or thought about.

  • @Victor_XIII
    @Victor_XIII 3 года назад +5

    This video: *exists*
    English teachers: *It’s beautiful...I’ve been staring at this for an hour now*

  • @valentinogal781
    @valentinogal781 2 года назад

    Great analysis!!! I never paid attention to the pictures on the walls or the recurring theme through out the games. Good catch.

  • @Izawwlgood
    @Izawwlgood Год назад

    Whoa, this is an amazingly on point observation. well done!

  • @timsalem4938
    @timsalem4938 3 года назад +2

    Your video is absolutely amazing. I love the way you describe all the details in a very poetic way!!

  • @mrchillaxing1723
    @mrchillaxing1723 3 года назад +1

    Amazing video, I look forward to future content! ❤️

  • @SPRINCLES6
    @SPRINCLES6 Год назад +1

    amazing attention to detail

  • @arkindomino
    @arkindomino 3 года назад

    This video is awesome! Thanks for sharing some insight and gives me rich detail in these events in the game.

  • @TheSmorris92
    @TheSmorris92 3 года назад

    This is some deep stuff man. Loved it.

  • @occ3931
    @occ3931 Год назад +1

    was playing td n when ur playing in the game after u meet the giraffes she gives u a photo of joel and sarah.
    After that joel says something along the lines of like u can’t run from ur past and that immediately made me think of how that could’ve been foreshadowing last of us 2

  • @kasra123
    @kasra123 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant Jungian analysis of archetypal structures in the story. When I first played the game, I had to chuckle at the Jonah and the Whale allusion. I dismissed the unicorn and zebra motif though. Thanks a lot. Job well done!

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  2 года назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed this, Kasra! Thank you for sharing the love!

  • @johntrains1317
    @johntrains1317 3 года назад

    Nice man. Clever, succinct and informative

  • @ThatFluffis
    @ThatFluffis 3 года назад

    completely missed this foreshadowing lmao, thank you for filling in the gaps

  • @felipekbranco
    @felipekbranco 3 года назад +7

    Such an amazing analysis.

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +1

      Thank you, Felipe! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  • @truefrost1385
    @truefrost1385 3 года назад

    I have just found your YT channel and is amazing dude, keep up the good work!

  • @canehdianbacon2177
    @canehdianbacon2177 3 года назад +1

    You bring such amazing insight to this community! Loving your content so much ❤️❤️

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the love, CB! That really means a lot to me.

  • @marcileatherboots1
    @marcileatherboots1 3 года назад

    I had to give you a thumbs up for this video! Extremely well thought out and spot on. Honestly, prior to this video, I never really gave much credence to the Abby, Dad, Zebra scene. Got damn, now you really have me thinking about other parallels and contrasts I may have missed.

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад

      That's awesome, Marci. Thank you for sharing that.

  • @niek3212
    @niek3212 3 года назад

    Nice work man

  • @horsesanimalsandeverything4960
    @horsesanimalsandeverything4960 3 года назад

    My gosh this game has so much beautiful detail. I could seriously study it for hours

  • @archiltushurashvili2448
    @archiltushurashvili2448 3 года назад

    Great content mate. Really enjoying your take on TLOUII.

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +1

      Thanks a ton! Glad you're enjoying the content and glad to have you here. 🤠

  • @VirtualResidence
    @VirtualResidence 3 года назад +1

    I just beat last of us part II, and now I'm watching many of your videos, you make really though provoking content! You earned a sub!

  • @JTCT371
    @JTCT371 3 года назад

    Love your perceptions on these 2 masterpieces, you add alot to the depth I already see during my own playthroughs.
    I've never experienced games such as these. Keep the videos coming!

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing the love, JThur. So glad there is something here for you in my content. Much and more to come!

    • @JTCT371
      @JTCT371 3 года назад

      @@WolfofThorns absolutely....I view the games as you do, so hearing another person's viewpoints who really gets it is awesome and adds to my own experience.

  • @branram13
    @branram13 3 года назад +1

    You summed it up perfectly. I thought the animal scenes reflected our heroes or "Villians" depending on perspective. Great work!

  • @ChadMichaelSimon
    @ChadMichaelSimon 3 года назад

    I took some amazing screenshots of Abby in the Aquarium, especially standing before the shark mouth doorway. Your spotlighting her passage through the whale and tentacles made the sudden connection for me of the parallels there, too. The aquarium would come to signify oasis and Owen’s desire to return to the light. In the aquarium, the giant, hanging whales are the most prominent feature. The shark mouth is strikingly similar time the whale mouth at the zoo, as if to saw she was fooled. She and Yara descend stairs that wrap through more giant tentacles.

  • @hanako-kun7565
    @hanako-kun7565 3 года назад

    I hope you get many subs bro you really just do a great job with what you do

  • @lidaaletap2646
    @lidaaletap2646 3 года назад +1

    That was a neat analysis

  • @savvyhowe1646
    @savvyhowe1646 3 года назад

    I didn't even think that these things happened very close together, that's a really cool detail

  • @jimbof3571
    @jimbof3571 3 года назад

    Another great video! Thank you!

  • @hellsproprietor9390
    @hellsproprietor9390 3 года назад

    This is intriguing, eye opening and fascinating.

  • @_unicorn.zone_
    @_unicorn.zone_ 3 года назад

    This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen

  • @denji5426
    @denji5426 3 года назад +1

    i am addicted to your videos, this isn't even a joke

  • @jaykenneth2086
    @jaykenneth2086 3 года назад +2

    I never thought about this animal in the game. Good point. 👍

  • @ginagidaro
    @ginagidaro 3 года назад +1

    This is so interesting. I'm loving your videos. How do you get inspiration for your topics? To you have an idea initially and then look for evidence or do you just play the game and notice things?

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад

      Simply put, I love this game. Certain things jump out to me when I play, and other things I discover by revisiting moments in a new playthrough or re-examining moments in my mind as I go through everything I think I want to cover in a video. It can often have a wonderful way of building on itself. Often times I am in a playthrough, going to get something for one video, and I make a whole new discovery about something, so I jot down notes to use the new discovery in another.

  • @AlexDeMiro
    @AlexDeMiro Год назад +1

    "Spots and stripes do not mix"

  • @adryanbarrera7030
    @adryanbarrera7030 3 года назад

    Well spoken, explained, and thought provoking! Great video!

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад

      Thank you very kindly, Adryan! 🤠

  • @aerynstormcrow
    @aerynstormcrow Год назад

    Ya know...I always understand how the size of the animal contributes to the size of the organs...but I still was shook when I saw the size of that mare's placenta.

  • @Rayan7x
    @Rayan7x 3 года назад

    this was such an underrated analysis

  • @ghoststatic8008
    @ghoststatic8008 3 года назад +6

    Can we talk about how well this video is done! So happy I clicked on this. Honestly. Left a like and subscribed, can't wait to hear more of what you have to say! 🔥🔥

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +2

      Aw, thank you, Ghost! So glad to have you here.

  • @qwerty6669
    @qwerty6669 3 года назад +2

    This was a really great deep dive into the symbolism. a lot of "a ha" moments thanks to this video.

  • @Ninja0608
    @Ninja0608 3 года назад

    Your ability to see things like this is remarkable. It gives me a greater appreciation for The Last Of Us than I already do!

  • @Ori_Kohav
    @Ori_Kohav 3 года назад

    Wow, I'm impressed. That's quite a thoughtful analysis.

  • @SusbriaWantsSushi
    @SusbriaWantsSushi 3 года назад +2

    3:19 *b o n k*

  • @jasondavis2381
    @jasondavis2381 3 года назад +2

    Interesting analysis. Ellie and Abby have their own respective symbolic growths in their lives regarding their strengths and behaviors, the animals they encounter. Similar to Ellie cleverly surviving all obstacles and enemies, giraffes can be a bit more difficult for predators such as lions to take down in terms of size and height(unless if it's large pride of them). And like with Abby's unstoppable, beastly rage, zebras sometimes can ferociously chase away predators to defend their herds and their young. In a way, due to both of those characters taking out all of their enemies to survive(and mostly out of revenge), they don't have their own lions, leopards, or hyenas to kill them.

  • @oriomenoni7651
    @oriomenoni7651 10 месяцев назад

    I really like your insights.

  • @samantharhodes4610
    @samantharhodes4610 3 года назад +5

    I'm beyond thrilled that I stumbled across this channel! The few analyses of this game I've seen so far have been really insightful and fun to watch. I just finished my 2nd playthrough of this game, and I fully intend to have a notepad next to me on my next playthrough so I can keep a log of literary analysis style notes and review them afterward. (I'm curious to know if you've done anything similar while playing it.)
    Got a new sub from me!

    • @WolfofThorns
      @WolfofThorns  3 года назад +1

      Welcome to the channel, Sam. Glad you're enjoying some of the essays. While I didn't necessarily have a notepad while playing, if a thought struck me during gameplay, I would typically pause the game and send myself a quick email by voice command to my phone. That being said, much of it came from meditating over the material, or realizations would occur while I was creating other videos and reviewing footage for them. It was more or less a domino effect of immersing myself in my recorded footage of my second playthrough for various projects because The Last of Us is probably my favorite IP.

  • @jennifercase2052
    @jennifercase2052 3 года назад

    Great analysis!

  • @narayankoss6238
    @narayankoss6238 3 года назад

    Nice analysis🤙

  • @malikphillips4794
    @malikphillips4794 3 года назад

    This was great!

  • @madamedragon
    @madamedragon 3 года назад

    I knew the parallels had to mean something! I just couldn't figure out what until now, thank you!

  • @tj2gaming631
    @tj2gaming631 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video!

  • @hanskywalker1246
    @hanskywalker1246 Год назад

    This is genuis!

  • @rayward6345
    @rayward6345 3 года назад

    Commenting before watching, don't know if its mentioned here but. Manny says to the WLF soldier, who got shot in his hand. "you only need 3 am i right?" Ellie ends up with 3 fingers on her left hand. Maybe the number 3 could also symbolize something else... Like loved ones lost perhaps. Riley, Joel, Dina

  • @ella.o8745
    @ella.o8745 Год назад

    Also i noticed that the zebra is abby in a sense. Leaving behind owen and her dad, Hurt and in pain. And then finding lev (the baby zebra)

  • @cruzpartain4915
    @cruzpartain4915 3 года назад +2

    This dude earned my sub 😂

  • @moisetibasima1354
    @moisetibasima1354 3 года назад +1

    This is quite good. I think it's reaching but it's also so perfect that it just might be true. I'm loving your videos.

  • @dannybigballs2785
    @dannybigballs2785 3 года назад +1

    Because how pissed i was at joels death i never really noticed that

  • @NonConDon
    @NonConDon 3 года назад +8

    Niel: "oh uh, yeah that's totally not just a coincidence haha yeah I came up with that all by myself"

    • @TheFreshTrumpet
      @TheFreshTrumpet 3 года назад +1

      the scene includes the line “she’s in pain; we gotta cut her loose.” It’d be a hell of a coincidence if they included that line without knowing it sums up what Ellie and Abby end up doing for each other. And what the devs hoped we could do emotionally with Abby by the end