Is the 2023 Kia K5 GT a BETTER sport sedan to buy than an Acura TLX?
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- The K5 GT has been a hit from Kia and very hard to get. On the outside you will discover 19in wheels, LED lighting and a dark grey tiger nose grill. On the inside you are greeted by a leather interior, 10.25in infotainment screen, and flat-bottom steering wheel. Under the hood is a 2.5L turbocharged inline-4 that is pumping out 290HP & is mated to an 8-speed automatic transmission. Is the 2023 Kia K5 GT a BETTER sport sedan to buy than an Acura TLX?
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Just got my 2023 Kia K5 GT with the GT1 package. Black exterior with chestnut brown interior. It is pretty awesome. Power is there when you need it! Those of you complaining that it isn't putting the power down off the line . . . who are you drag racing in your 4-door family sedan? Just enjoy it if you can get one. You won't be disappointed.
Right, unless you are drag racing from a stand still it shouldn't be an issue.
No but if someone revs it next to you and you feeling disrespected, what are you gonna do huh?! Just pretend like u don't hear him or u gonna man up and race him? 🤔
@@gabrielsanchez4207 I would be an adult and not give a shit. Is your ego really that fragile that you would have to race someone to feel like a man? Dude, come on.
@@chrisgulbranson5867 well u must be really fun at parties.. here and there some pple like to have some fun, not saying your going to go crazy racing every one you meet
How much did it run you if you don't mind me.aaking. I'm on the fence between this and the accord 2.0
Cars with around 300 hp are always so fun to drive.
Took mine in almost 2 weeks ago, gt w gt1 package. Your ‘22 review was why I even got this car. I love it!
K5 will always be a nice looking car from Kia and the design team did a good job on the outside and inside.
This is a such sharp looking car
I totally agree with you!
Kia at it again!!! Look at this stunner of a midsizer!!! Those DRL'S really mKe it stand out!! They drive a good bargain with their packages and look at that interior!!! Great video as usual Joe and Lori and Steven!!!
Perfect transition from the jelly doughnuts to the seats. Loved the review!!
I just bought this in Sapphire Blue last night. It was pouring rain out on my way home, and late at night, through construction zones, so I went very slow. This morning? Holy shit, this car is awesome. I had a 2019 Optima S, and I loved it, but this bad girl takes it two another level or two. LOVE IT. Thanks for the great review.
Was just looking at one of these. This has literally answered all of my questions about it. Keep up the good work
Oh wow! That is so fantastic Tommy!
Are you getting one?
Literally been doing the same thing the last week .
I shopped this last year as well....glad I got my Accord Touring instead.
@@nikolaikrow238 why your accord touring was 38k dollars lol the gt2 in the Kia is 34.500 and a much nicer and sportier looking car as well
Really sharp car..love the backend especially..nice review.
Amazing review. One of your best yet.
Enjoyed your video review of the KIA K5. I have one enroute from the factory. Glacier white and is the K5 GT Line that has the AWD feature. Your review has me anxiously waiting for it to arrive. Thanks
After the on-throttle, it may be a decent choice for a less expensive Acura option. And it sounds a lot better on the highway than revving in a parking lot
I just bought this exact trim spec and color but with the chestnut brown interior and GT1 package (all the bells and whistles) - I am in LOVE. The value and performance you get out of this car for the price... I'm just blown away!
So for the most part it's a good value? Is it actually fun to drive?
@@porfiriato84 yes! It’s really a fun car to drive. I think Kia has added so much value in their cars. And when you’re not pedal to the medal it actually gets great gas mileage (around 34 on freeway travel).
Did you make a custom order, or was it in stock ? I want this exact build , it’s hard to find
@@MrBeastguy24 yeah they said they had only ever gotten 3 GT trims and this was the first black. It came in that morning so I snagged it. Been super happy with it, everyone who sits in it and drives it loves it. Wish they were making more K5s to meet demand!
Hows the torque steer with no awd?
RAITI IM JUST LOOKING AT ONE RIGHT NOW THANK YOU
Ooh this is tough. I have nephews that are faithful to Honda/Acura. I like to explore. I began with Acura, went to Nissan and now Subaru. If more brands offered manual trans for some of their models, I'd definitely try em.
Great looking, good performance, and great price. The AWD option would be great, especially for those of us who live up north where there's snow in the winter. Great review!
GREAT? haha this thing is f-ing ugly af
Ya you fairies up north are basically Canadians, millions of people would agree.😂😂
@@Kawmbat_Veteran from a Texan, get a life
Winter Tires Help you don't need AWD or 4 Wheel drive unless you going through deep 8 to a foot
Put snow tires on ,you be fine, upstate NY where am from gets lots of snow .
I totally agree with you if they would have put a Cascade of LED lights on the outskirts of the fender that might have looked like fangs to go along with that mean Grill nice observation Double R
Thank you so much, the 8 twinkie size comparison really sold it for me
Great video Joe. Thank you
Recently bought a 2020 A Spec, LOVE that car, and funny enough it has 290hp but the 2023 has less, interesting. Great review though.
I had two Optima XLs and they were flawless and delightful to drive. Now I have a Stinger and love it every day. For the price, KIA makes a fine auto.
Had a 2014 Optima but this K5 looks super cool! Thinking of getting one soon
What can I say, good job with the analysis like always!
Kia really does the business! My 2012 optima...196,000. Runs great. And my 2020 kia stinger GT2. I was on the fence between the Stinger or TLX Type-S I took the advice from RAITES RIDES and went Stinger. 😁 The stinger in my opinion just has more fun factor to it! Reminds me on the camaro's i have owned.
14:15 Both the Acura TLX A-Spec and Type S do have rear seat vents, however you're right about the zero connectivity. I went back and reviewed your TLX videos for confirmation.
You're correct, they absolutely do have ac vents for rear seat passengers.
I just don’t get how he’s comparing a tlx with this car they are not even In the same price range and the tlx is a much better built car in many ways especially the sh awd the driving dynamics in those are just incredible
Don’t get why people get so bent about connectivity. Just get a charger bank and u can have a charger anywhere u go, in ur car or not.
@@Cynical496 exactly this car scene is just completely engulfed in tech who cares it’s the car itself that you need to think about!! Reliability number one!! Dealer services and networking is next in my book because so many auto makers after the sale is complete are a nightmare to have your car serviced and repaired properly the first time!! So many people overlook the dealer experience after the sale then they complain number one on that list is alfa Romeo in this country is a horrible brand to buy in I hear nothing but horror stories about the service after the sale that alone I would never buy a new one!! I would buy one used out of warranty and find a good reputable Mecanic that works on them rant over
@@cbruno12180 yeah, just know one of those integrated ports are gonna cost you like >200 bucks. My charger bank was about 30 bucks, it can charge while I got to a store, go for a walk and my car can not even be on.
Great review and great job Steve
Great review there, your driving in my old neighborhood of Countryside.
Thanks man! Good eyes!
They shouldve did the gt letters on the seats in red to stand out. Just like the ones with red interior should all have gt line letters in black. I hate seeing the gt blending into the seats and not standing out! Other than that, the k5 is a gorgeous car!
They used to be red…
This will be my very first Kia Mid-size sedan.
Brilliant job with your content as always Joe.
It's my first new car. You will love it. Trust me.
Yup it’s so Fye
I love Mine got the GtLine
9:55 is so funny. The pause before he hit the..."about your infotainment systems" LOOL.
I just saw this on the road and it is so dam nice! I saw it in my rear view during the day and I noticed the yellow led daytime headlights then as it passed me, the beautiful one peice tail lights. I have an elantran 2020, had to get my engine replaced and had a Kia sol rental. I was confused as why Kia felt better than my Hyundai despite it being the lower end of the sister company.
I love this car. Looks great, it's very practical, pretty good for daily driving but it has plenty of power to have some fun with it.
Nice! what color do you have? Mine is in my picture. LOVE the Wolf Gray, pops nicely with the red bucket seats.
@@Kawmbat_Veteran Just got the Ebony Black with chestnut brown interior and GT1 package - I am in love!
Joe there's no separate GT1 & GT2 trim for the K5 GT. There's just a single GT trim with the optional GT1 Package that gives you ventilated front seats, the Bose audio system, the 360° camera system, & many other features listed on Kia's K5 GT configurator when you click on the GT1 package to see what it includes
It is a great package to have on that car. Really elevates the car technology to another level.
Maybe ventilated seats were recently removed from that GT1 package? I keep looking at dealerships and on configurators, but no ventilated seats any where.
I have a 22 gt and it has vented seats and a full digital display
Yes there is a GT1 and Gt2 I ve been in both of them the GT2 has a different shifter from the Gt1 and there's carbon fiber like trim on the GT2 and it's brushed metal on the GT1
@Luc Proulx there is no full digital gauge display on the KIA K5 GT. The digital display gauge is only available on Hyundai's car.
I would love to get this car in this GT trim with the GT2 Package in Sapphire Blue with the Chestnut Brown SynTex leather interior! That color combination is perfect on this car! I just wish the K5 GT had some more features with the GT1 Package like a 7" or 12.3" digital gauge cluster to support the Blind Spot View Monitor feature (since the GT1 package already gives you a 360° camera system), Remote Smart Park Assist, multicolor ambient lighting like the Sonata Limited, & it would be perfect!
the hyundai sonata n-line has digital gauge cluster, but also compromises in some other areas vs the kia of course. it makes sense the sonata limited has those it has the 180hp(nippy) motor yet costs a few grand off the top spec k5 gt. they have to make models different and cant have everything on one model or price would balloon. it has ambient lighting
can't wait to see the 2023 Kia K5 gt line good video Joe
Great video Joe! Do the Sister brand Hyundai Sonata N for 2023
You got it man!
I drove one of these, these are pretty fun to drive
My mother just got this exact car yesterday…. And I must say it’s a bad ass!!! 🔥
I love it Joe and Lori and keep up the good work and I love the video lot real true 👍
Love them turn singles!
Turn "singles"?🤔
slick lookin, and nice rims!
I am so glad that you are digging them!
Just ordered one! Love it!
Look's like a sweet ride! I'd rock it for sure.
You always get your hands on new fun cars faster than anyone else. You were born to do this for sure 👏🚗💨
Thanks man! That really means the world!
@@RaitisRides No problem
I litterally just said that to a friend he always seem to get cars quicker
The full-on GT K5, basically, actually existed when the Optima was around, as the SX/SXL (Limited) trim, which had 274 horses. Think about that for a second. That's only 16 horses less than the K5 GT, but a whopping 94 horsepower more than a K5 GT-Line & almost 20 horses more than my Stinger had.
I still have my white 2011 kia optima sx turbo. It only has 75k. Had issues. HOWEVER, I had to order the new 2023 K5 GT TURBO 290 horsepower. Same car in the video. I was told 4 to 6 months. In June of 2023, it will be 6 months. 😢. Still waiting.
@@loganboind1798You get your K5 yet? I'm going to test drive a 2023 GT tomorrow.
I had a 2012 Optima SX and I have a 2023 K5 GT now. The K5 is faster than the Optima was, even with a Lap 3 1.5 tune. Trans has just as much to do with that as increased power but still.
Ordered one in wolf grey a few weeks ago. Never thought I’d own a Kia
Joe - Great review! The price is pretty good for what you get. But I'm curious. Besides the car spinning its wheels, how was the torque steer?? 🤔
I drove my K5 GT for 12k miles and never got any torque steer despite spinning the tires on hard takeoffs. Idk how they did it but I had zero torque steer.
That"ribbed for pleasure" came in hot and cooled right on out with that ac, 😆
Lmao did he say that? I didn’t catch it
Picking mine up tomorrow!
That is so very exciting! Congrats!
@@RaitisRides thank you, love the reviews
Great job Raiti!
Thanks for having my back Ryan!
if thats the accurate price. i can tell this will be the number one1 seller in 2023 . maybe in 2024 too.. thank you for the first to show about the car
Hi Hi Raiti's Rides How Are You Can You Make The 2022 Acura TLX Type S
I sure will for you! Stay tuned!
I got the '23 GT w/GT1 and I like it a lot. Only 3000 miles so far but I have 0 complaints. At the time, I compared these 2 and I liked all the options that the Kia came with vs the base level TLX. I think I have managed to psych myself into spending an extra 20K at some point and my dream car is the TLX Type-S...just hoping that it gets the touch screen in one of the refreshes.
What do you think of the Kia so far?
@@dcs939 Still no complaints with driving. I have had some issues with the infotainment system as far as the radio goes. Haven't had anyone look at that yet to see how far the problem goes. Not sure how common this issue is.
as someone looking for a car and having a hard time choosing, i appreciate this type of review.
Thank you so much for saying tyat!
I leased a Acura A-Spec SH-AWD TLX 2021 and just bought the Kia K5 GT 2023 both cars are a blast to drive.
Honestly I love this car and very hesitant to see if the 2024 has any added stuff to it before I buy it but I would love for it to be an AWD and have a HUD at least
More like a digital instrument panel like the elantran N.
I don't think the K5 GT will ever be AWD unless you get the GT Line. If they were to make the GT AWD then the Stinger would sell even less.
@@Yoshee717 now that the Stinger is discontinued it's too bad they didn't add AWD to 2024 K5 GT.
I’d get the GT line over the GT.
I’d also get it anywhere other than Lokey
I would like to trade my gtline in for a wolf grey GT. Great reveiw!
Brother got this car; it's great but my own gripe was the infotainment seemed a little slow in response compared to my vehicle which was a 2018.
Out of any midsize sedan this is the one to get. Great job Kia!! No other car can beat this performance at this price, also it looks very good and the interior is better than one would expect for under 35k these days. This car takes the crown hands down.
Yeah there's one for 31k at my local dealer, I'ma see if I can score it this week
All man I lied I just checked it's only the GT line. The GTs are like 37k. If I can fork up a 6k deposit then I might consider it 😭
What a beauty of a car, still prefer my stinger tho 😊
Yes, the Stinger is RWD based, better looking overall, and doesn't have the goofy extra rear-quarter windows.
@@Johnny-lr5jt k5 won it for me with the technology upgrades from the stinger and better mpg.
Just got my 2023 K5 GT with the GT1 package white exterior black interior and the car is just amazing!!! Definitely hard to find one but it’s worth the wait! These cars sell while still in transit to the dealers!
I’m saddened they don’t offer it in AWD
Got my 2023 in Blue. LOVE IT!!!!
It has just the right amount of chrome.
I just wish it was dark chome.
I believe there is only a GT1 for the k5. The one in the video is the standard GT.
The rear view mirror and the structure it mounts to block way too much of the view out the front. The stinger has the same problem. Maybe shorter drivers don't have an issue but for anyone over 6 foot its there.
You need to start bringing up average dealer markup . Going by msrp just doesn’t fly anymore. Dealerships by me bout 4-6k over on new Kia and 2-4K on used ones. Great Videos as always keep up the premium work .
Hell my local dealers don’t even have them. The dealers hours away sell them for 38-40k
My dealer has 5k mark ups on kia souls. Feel bad for people who dont know better and pay that
Nice review. Sharp, quick, very roomy looks great overall but I’d give a slight edge to the refinement of the TLX
TLX any day for me. AWD and better handling.
@@federaikkonerer the k5 offers awd aswell though 💀
Slight?
@@Cynical496 yes, slight
@@vonsgone and ur slightly correct lol
I'm planning to get either a K5 GT or a Stinger GT-Line around the new year! Whichever is available, really. What would yall suggest?
I would go Stinger personally.
@@RaitisRides Thanks for the reply! That's what I'm leaning towards, honestly. But I'd be happy with either.
Stinger Gt-line is a no brainer.
Thanks for let me know which k5 GT not to buy in Lockey dealer. For sure the black one that Raiti's have fun with it! 🤣
Got 23 GT GT1 Package with the Lane Assist/Smart Cruise Control W/Stop & Go + Ventilated Seats in Glacier White.
SUPER RARE 🔥
You forgot to mention the Market adjustments that these dealers add on. FYI, more than $6,000.
I just mention MSRP. Not all dealers charge martkup. Especially that high of markup.
I wonder what the resale will be in 5 years compared to the TLX or the Accord or even the Toyota Camry. Hopefully they will start to hold value. Great price though. That may make the difference.
@Toni Dinh 10 YEAR WARRANTY
@Toni Dinh Toyota just took a car off the lot for wheels falling off the BZ4RX and Toyota also had problems with their 8 speed when it came out. You really don’t understand how big a 10 year warranty is
@@chill_lovings8372 like he said you’ll need it lol go up and down these comments you’ll see why
Drove both getting the accord 2.0 sport over this
@Toni Dinh it comes with one . 🤦🏻♂️
Wonder how the DCTs are holding up in this application?? Hearing about issues in the Santa Fe/Sorrento.
I like the natural sounds of the birds 🐦🐦🐦🐦🕊️🦜🕊️🕊️ from the background 😊😊
I can’t wait for the 2023 Elantra N
Stay tuned Hector!
I have one ElantraN 2023 on order
Not in the same class as the TLX. However, it’s a great alternative to the Honda Accord.
doesn't matter, it's still a superior car. TLX has outdated interior and much worse styling on the 39K model(boring small wheels, chrome/silver trim, it's poor on purpose to upsell), less features too! K5 is also faster and has better brakes, proper exhaust, and the kia k5 undercuts by 2.5K w/ gt1 package (360 degree camera, ventilated seats, highway drive assist(acura doesn't have this! proper luxury feature, also has blindspot acura does not have that, safety features are superior on kia it has even more I'm not listing, big deal, also has much better sound system the bose 12 speaker, passenger's seat is 10 way power w/ power lumbar, acura has MANUAL(not a luxury experience for passenger), heated steering wheel, leather shift knob, memory seating, bigger sunroof, much faster transmission like a PDK, etc.) if you go higher trim above 40k mark acura TLX gets smashed by Genesis G70 or kia stinger 2.0 turbo(300hp)
@@roboticvenom1935 your entire statement is like 99% inaccurate lol
@@drivescene6747 what about it is inaccurate?
Lets be honest. An Acura is an Acura at the end of the day. You can't compare it to a Kia. Also, the new Acura's have a much better styling, handling and interiors. The are just leagues better than a crappy Kia.
@@ApohanSaxena 100% accurate. I’m sure the Kia fans will disagree however lol
Thank you for making this video, I'm torn between the Chevy Malibu, and the Kia K5 AWD.
If you mentioned and I missed it, I apologize, does it have heated seats standard?
My Google searches are only confusing me more.
The Kia is Nicer & better Interior & Exterior. Better technology
Finally ! I ordered a custom built 23 gt in Wolfe grey gt1 package and still waiting . Dealership said 8-12 months .
I love the look of this car , the only thing that kept me from buying one is the way it looks from the side. Idk if it’s the roof shape or what but it makes the tires look incredibly small, big body small tires . Pass
Then get bigger wheels, tf? 😂 They looked completely fine to me up close and in person
Needs a drop.
SH-AWD on the TLX is worth the money alone especially if you live in an area that could benefit from it. K5 GT could really use AWD, but won't ever get it because the Stinger exists. I'll definitely take the TLX all day every day however. K5 is definitely a nice buy and good looking car, but the TLX is just way above in terms of fit and finish inside and out as it is supposed to be from the start. Also objectively the best looking car in it's segment and under 50k, imo
You can't beat the AWD from Acura.
Check again. And Joe how did you not correct the op? This 23 K5 does have AWD available.
@@porfiriato84 k5 GT DOESNT have AWD
@Ed Findlay Worth it if you can afford it. It's why it's in a tier above what the K5 is. Sure they share a lot of the same features, and it's good Kia offers them so affordably, but you're just not gonna get nearly the same level of driving performance and comfort as you would with the TLX. That's what you pay the extra $$ for. Not to mention something not on a spreadsheet, dealership experience AND resale value. The Acura will hold more value as time goes on vs what a Kia does.
I love this guy's reviews. His voice is awesome hahah
I'm curious if they have done away with the gt2 package and just included all the bells and whistles within the gt1 package. Thats the only package available on their website 🤔🤔
A friend of mine had a loaded 2021. Nothing but trouble. He had it towed to the dealership at least a half dozen times with all sorts of problems. You name the problem and his car had it. He traded it in for a 22 Accord sport. Kia is today’s version of a Yugo.
Yeah I'm not a fan of either Kia or Hyundai. Make mine HONDA, please. 😉👍
Sounds like a piece of crap Nissan...stick with Honda!
I figured this was the modern day Nissan Altima
I have a 2022 fully loaded K5 GT. No problems at all
your friends first mistake was buying a first year model car. you always wait for the 2nd iteration atleast.
I use to have a 21 K5 GT. I bought the very first one that my local dealer got in stock back in June 21. It was a really nice car and it hurt some feelings against people who thought it was just a normal Kia in a race. Lol. I traded it in after 6 months and 12k miles for a brand new F150. I was just sort of bored with it. The fact that I was driving a Kia didn’t really sit well with the car enthusiast inside of me. But it was a great car at the end of the day. The big plus about the K5 GT over any other turbo performance 4-6 cylinder with this much power is the fact that Kia actually recommends 87 octane for this engine. Makes a big difference at the pump not being required to use premium.
If you're a car enthusiast why did you a giant truck?! 🤔 🤔
@@dracorosso7129 I already have a 2007 Miata, a 84 Z28 Camaro, a Kawasaki Ninja to drive among a few other classic cars that my dad and I own. Also nothing is more comfortable to daily drive than a pickup truck. The K5 GT was the daily and it just wasn’t getting the job done in any category.
A Ford F-150 is not a car enthusiast vehicle it’s slow and heavy …
@@aslysa2277 I won’t argue that. But as a daily it fits my personality a lot better than a Kia and it’s a lot more comfortable. Plus it feels better to be back in a vehicle from the big three. Once you daily drive a pickup truck you never want to go back.
"didnt sit well," so you went for an f150. what a complete tool, you know the dodge ram wins comparison tests and has a way better sounding v8? the f150 sounds like shit.
I've got the 22 K5 Gt line. I think it's excellent big fan of the vehicle
Does the display move its aim toward u but when a passenger is in he will be controlling it. I don’t get the design unless it moves as in tilts his/ her way too or neutral in middle like Honda and Nissan
Still can't find K5 here in Arizona smh
They are seriously hard to find.
@@RaitisRides I'm waiting it out lol
I never saw one for $32,000. Every GT I’ve seen on lots are close to $40k. For that price I am going with Elantra N given the tuning, limited slip and exhaust plus it’s cheaper. However, this is a great looking vehicle. If cheaper and with limited slip and better exhaust I would have went this route.
completely get the EN decision but you have to take into account that despite being the same price, you save a ton on fuel since the k5 takes 87 whereas you need premium for the EN.
Concur... I wanted one, didn't see it for less than 40k. Went with th3 forte gt.
This car is a beast for the price. I'm enjoying a lot Raiti's Ride. I'm a fan. God bless. Excellent presentation
You are so very welcome!
Love your reviews Joe! I just wish we wouldn’t compare a premium brand to an entry level. Maybe compare it to and Honda Accord instead?
🤦♂️
@@Thatswhatshesaidtweb yes?
yeah but TLX has outdated interior and much worse styling on the 39K model(boring small wheels, chrome/silver trim, it's poor on purpose to upsell), less features too! K5 is also faster and has better brakes, proper exhaust, and the kia k5 undercuts by 2.5K w/ gt1 package (360 degree camera, ventilated seats, highway drive assist(acura doesn't have this! proper luxury feature, also has blindspot acura does not have that, safety features are superior on kia it has even more I'm not listing, big deal, also has much better sound system the bose 12 speaker, passenger's seat is 10 way power w/ power lumbar, acura has MANUAL(not a luxury experience for passenger), heated steering wheel, leather shift knob, memory seating, bigger sunroof, much faster transmission like a PDK, etc.) if you go higher trim above 40k mark acura TLX gets smashed by Genesis G70 or kia stinger 2.0 turbo(300hp) This kia K5 is better.. that's the point, it's a loaded performance beats being compared to base model TLX9barely luxury) and the TLX ends up worse for more money
This K5 and her older diva sister Stinger are screaming for a 6-Speed manual.
Nice car 🖤
I am so glad that you are liking this one.
Raiti's has to be the best reviewer out there. wouldnt even consider a car unless he's reviewed it. hes my height. hes in florida, so if he is comfortable, I am comfortable. looking at this car seriously and if I buy one. I'll be sure to tell KIA. is was this video that convinced me.
The 80's Dodge Lazer with the turbo was fun.
woahhhhhh comparing KIA to an ACURA is such a slap to ACURA lol
I’ve been a Kia Hyundai genesis fan for quite a few years now. For the most part I’ve been very happy with him. But the key five GT was so bad that I bought it and trade it two weeks later.
I am so sorry to hear about the issues that you had. What was wrong with it!
Share what you experienced, please!
Why didn’t you like it?
Stop lying you never owned one lair
I wish the gauges were digital. No LSD?? Would they be a deal breaker?? Seems like a nice car overall but that's a lot of torque to the front wheels
I’ve been enjoying my sonata n-line. Summer tires are an opinion the car needs.