Nice that you showed the ugly even though you could have copped out and reshot the video. It's cool to see the Big Dogs get tricked even just a little and how they persevere. Patience and reconsidering what you thought you know is a super useful teaching moment.
Videos like this one are why we hate to see you go, Bill. And as much as I'll miss your warmth, humor, and ability to teach complex systems in understandable terms, I think you have made the right choice. You're a good man. Take care of yourself and may your retirement bring you many years of family love. You deserve it!
Hey Bosnian Bill, I have found your channel from lpl. Loving the videos, keep up the good work! It’s so fascinating I’ve been buying and making so many of the tools and made quite a lot of progress already. Thanks again
What's a good set of picks to work on this for an intermediate level picker. What thickness would be good to use to defeat the warding and paricentricity
You have to stand on your head. Everybody knows these locks are incredibly sensitive to orientation and resist picking much more when upside down. Also, there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in the effect of gravity on the pins. The feedback of the pins is WILDLY different. Also, the springs are MANY times stronger in one direction vice the other. Lastly, specialized upside down tools are needed. Now that you've had some time to THINK about the question, what do YOU think?
I am quite sure that it is an Assa/Abloy/Trioving lock. The Swedish, Finnish and Norwegian lockcompaniees joined a few years ago. I have got a lot of then, i collect them, they have used that kind of security pins here in Norway 50-60 years. I have got an original Ving brand lock from the 60ties, same security. Realy a challenge to pick.
I thought ASSA until I heard the price. They don't sell cylinders under $100 each. I have bought cheap knockoffs with security pins around $50 in store.
Assa sels their lock oem branded to retail stores, eks Biltema here in scandinavia. Their sylinderlocks are made in Sweden, but oem branded Biltema. They sell a 7 pin lock with 3 keys for 20 dollar, aka 179 nok. And i know for sure it is Assa, i know very vell the staff and owner in my town. They was trained by a team from the factory, and they was all dressed in Assa/abloy workwear.
Sorry Bill, I hate to bash you like this because I love you but I'm still a beginner at this and I spotted that counter rotation the first time it happened so my question is, why did it take you so long to figure out that there was security pins in there? I've only been picking since March2020 and I didn't even have my hands on the lock. At least you didn't start over again to hide your what I was just about to type "embarrassment" but now I'm starting to think you did it on purpose to show people not to go in thinking that you know how it should work cause as we all know, no two locks are the same. So well played Sir, you had me fooled at the beginning of the video, so much so that I was going to comment straight after I spotted that first tiny bit of counter rotation. Love from Scotland Bill 🏴🇬🇧
Looks like Chris Dangerfield pulled a fast one on ya! I tend to prefer 0.5mm or 20 thou lock picks for this reason, 15 is a bit too thin and flimsy for everyday picking and 25 is far too thick for a lot of Euro locks.
Go out walking at night and look for locks to pick. On dumpters behind strip malls, chain link fence by pools, power boxes, propane tank cages at Food Lion, etc. Take a pic and re-lock it. No, no, no...JK. (Or am I ? ? )
if you compare the picture to the locks, it was the right one. it should of had standard pins in it. look at the silver tab on the back of the lock and compare it to the picture.
Since these seem to require the .015 pics, and I'm in Europe, in thinking of getting some .015 pickset to start learning with. if I get the sparrows or multipick windowed training locks, can I use the 015 pics for those as well or will that be a waste? Do you have specific recommendations for beginners in Scandinavia? I'm a complete beginner.
So when picking the final pin, why not change picks to the next size progressive curve, it would save you struggling a straining with a pick that is not really appropriate for the task and probably make life a little easier, just a thought !
the feel inside the lock is the same. only difference with being a lefty is tensioning. finding a comfortable position when picking in hand can be tricky. don't be afraid to bend some tension tools to make it easier to hold.
@@GreyHazRoot bottom of the keyway tensioning is not a problem, neither is top of the keyway going counterclockwise, but clockwise I've got to hold the lock upside down (very uncomfortable and awkward) how would you bend a tension tool in a way that would allow me to hold the lock upright?
@@robertjesse1022 Remember that real world locks turn either way, depending only on the door. Don't focus your practice on one direction. Bare cylinders like these work both ways to fit any door, so just mirror what you see in right handed videos.
Man this would be perfect for me, I just ordered my Monstrum + a .015 sparrows kit, about 3-4 days ago. Definitely entertaining the give away. Fingers crossed 🤞
@@false-set thank you, it seemed like the best kit for someone who had none of the basic stuff. Excited to see what I can do with it and how sharp I can get my skills.
@@363.2McMasters just practice as much as You can, it’s a perishable skill, you can loose the feel pretty quick but the more you do it the faster you get the feel back, the the lockpicking subreddit, someone posted a really good exercise video today.
Maybe that's part of the 'real world' test. You shouldn't assume the one star British standard lock is a one star either. Its probably an insurance grade 3 star lock with uneven springs, and only one standard zero cut pin at the front.
The tolerances would be terrible if you were getting core turns with every standard set. Jut a daily reminder to those that false sets aren’t important if you know there are spools (and where they are helps). In fact, if you pick them in order you’ll probably only get the last false set before the final pin. They are more of a spool indicator than showing you’re doing things right- as far as I know they show you’re picking out of order if you keep getting them with every set.
the card lied to you hard. check out the cut on the back of the lock. it should of been standard pins. the card shows the standard pin lock has the silver tab notch on the back end.
Nahh I prefer to just buy a cylinder and repin it myself for cheaper. I would not buy it but rather bid on a lock job lot. You could get a ton more for the same price or less. Depends on the deal available.
I’ve learned to never trust what a lock manufacturer says. The big head is real when you expect standards and end up with some spooled out monstrosity. It’s humbling.
High tolerance would be sloppy. e.g. (+/- .020) Low tolerance would be a tighter fit/ better quality. e.g. ( +/- .002) I'm new to lockpicking but 23 years as a machinist in semiconductor and aerospace industries. It's always good to sound like you know your stuff when you actually DO know your stuff. Now sound like it! ;) You're welcome!
Why not practice with actual 'real world' locks? A lot of lockpicking gear seems redundant and overpriced. I'll stick to practicing with locks I get from just asking around and thrift stores, also $70 will buy you some great and challenging 'real world' locks brand new!
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Bill, you taught me more about lock picking than everyone else combined. I will miss seeing your new videos pop up in my RUclips feed.
I didn't find Bosnian bills channel until after he stopped making videos 😕 I'm just glad there's years worth of his content on here to watch
First lesson in real world lock picking: never assume you know for sure what is inside
Second lesson if cops get you, run
"Yes cause when you assume you make an as--"
*"DON'T SAY IT!!"*
I'll have to admit it was fun watching you trick yourself there for a bit!
I was laughing
For us newbies - if it ain't at the hardware store or flea market it is harder to get.
Thank you Dangerfield and Bill.
LMFAO! The initial confusion and surprise was hilarious. Another great video Bill!
Yeah, we're all sitting here having seen his note laughing as he discovers the security pins 🤣
"Got some serious shrinkage going on" ... story of our lives Bill! Seems like a very nice set of training locks, thanks for the review sir!
The accidental innuendo is just glorious
Nice that you showed the ugly even though you could have copped out and reshot the video. It's cool to see the Big Dogs get tricked even just a little and how they persevere. Patience and reconsidering what you thought you know is a super useful teaching moment.
Happy to see I'm not the only one who bends the hell out pf their picks
Videos like this one are why we hate to see you go, Bill. And as much as I'll miss your warmth, humor, and ability to teach complex systems in understandable terms, I think you have made the right choice. You're a good man. Take care of yourself and may your retirement bring you many years of family love. You deserve it!
Hey Bosnian Bill, I have found your channel from lpl. Loving the videos, keep up the good work! It’s so fascinating I’ve been buying and making so many of the tools and made quite a lot of progress already.
Thanks again
Thank you Bill for guiding me through my new addiction. God bless 🙌.
Always enjoy your videos.
I think Dangerfield is the in-house brand of ukbumpkeys. On their site they say that Dangerfield designed the locks. Interesting, quite tempted.
Chris dangerfield is the owner of ukbumpkeys
Love watching your videos...good work as always.
Nice packaging and presentation on that set!
That was a really long 12 seconds!😁✌🍺🇦🇺
Awesome review!! I have been thinking about those!!
That's an awesome training setup. Great review and fabulous giveaway.
Perhaps the numbers on the sides of the lock correspond to the images on the card?
Nicely picked on that Scandinavian Style cylinder. All 3 cylinders used Domestic and Commercial UK 🇬🇧
It's nice to see how that can be a good training tool. I was thinking about getting a set.
just got into lock picking love your videos
I'm still having a hard time with the sparrows practice locks lol idk if I'm ready...
I’ve got an acrylic clear padlock that does the same thing. I think something is wrong inside because the pins never set.
That's a very nice set of locks.
Well done
What's a good set of picks to work on this for an intermediate level picker. What thickness would be good to use to defeat the warding and paricentricity
Someone's mentioned this in the comments before, have you tried locking the focus before you start picking? It would help a lot if you could
How do I send bill locks?
Great video, and as stated by bill never presume anything 👍 hopefully as a new picker I get the chance to win this set
This looks like a great learning set up. They should have 2 options with it; 1 is locks only and 2 locks with a small pick set in 15 thou.
I think they sent you a modified set for low, medium and high of your skill level.
Drilled tops with hex nuts would be nice along with at least one cutaway. And same key way?
In the UK home locks are normally fitted pins down. How would that effect picking?
You have to stand on your head. Everybody knows these locks are incredibly sensitive to orientation and resist picking much more when upside down. Also, there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in the effect of gravity on the pins. The feedback of the pins is WILDLY different. Also, the springs are MANY times stronger in one direction vice the other. Lastly, specialized upside down tools are needed. Now that you've had some time to THINK about the question, what do YOU think?
I am quite sure that it is an Assa/Abloy/Trioving lock. The Swedish, Finnish and Norwegian lockcompaniees joined a few years ago. I have got a lot of then, i collect them, they have used that kind of security pins here in Norway 50-60 years. I have got an original Ving brand lock from the 60ties, same security. Realy a challenge to pick.
I thought ASSA until I heard the price. They don't sell cylinders under $100 each. I have bought cheap knockoffs with security pins around $50 in store.
Assa sels their lock oem branded to retail stores, eks Biltema here in scandinavia. Their sylinderlocks are made in Sweden, but oem branded Biltema. They sell a 7 pin lock with 3 keys for 20 dollar, aka 179 nok. And i know for sure it is Assa, i know very vell the staff and owner in my town. They was trained by a team from the factory, and they was all dressed in Assa/abloy workwear.
Sparrows Disk Picks are back in stock get em while they're hot!
Thanks for the video 🔑👍
nice review
Sorry Bill, I hate to bash you like this because I love you but I'm still a beginner at this and I spotted that counter rotation the first time it happened so my question is, why did it take you so long to figure out that there was security pins in there? I've only been picking since March2020 and I didn't even have my hands on the lock. At least you didn't start over again to hide your what I was just about to type "embarrassment" but now I'm starting to think you did it on purpose to show people not to go in thinking that you know how it should work cause as we all know, no two locks are the same.
So well played Sir, you had me fooled at the beginning of the video, so much so that I was going to comment straight after I spotted that first tiny bit of counter rotation.
Love from Scotland Bill 🏴🇬🇧
Looks like Chris Dangerfield pulled a fast one on ya!
I tend to prefer 0.5mm or 20 thou lock picks for this reason, 15 is a bit too thin and flimsy for everyday picking and 25 is far too thick for a lot of Euro locks.
I'm guessing 15 thou is a holdover from when they were called 1/64
0.018 Peterson picks also aren’t bad. It sounds too thin but I haven’t had any issues with “bending” more than 0.023s...
@@ryansanta They do use some pretty good steel to be fair, but they are spendy.
From the keyway those look exactly like some ISEO locks I have in my collection...
Not a single "Nice!" for that price? Are we suddenly not in the Internet?
Man, I really neeed something like this! It would keep me busy & challenged for awhile. I need the adrenaline rush.
Go out walking at night and look for locks to pick. On dumpters behind strip malls, chain link fence by pools, power boxes, propane tank cages at Food Lion, etc. Take a pic and re-lock it. No, no, no...JK. (Or am I ? ? )
@@noahway13 Don't do this
I will *love* to have This lokcs!
Might have to buy this! :)
I see ukbumpkeys are out of stock of it now.
0:48 NICE!
It pays to look more closely at the pictures. 😉
That was my first thought due to the oval core length compared to the euro is shorter, he grabbed the medium level lol
if you compare the picture to the locks, it was the right one. it should of had standard pins in it. look at the silver tab on the back of the lock and compare it to the picture.
wow these are awesome
So I'm new to lock picking. My biggest challenge has been tension and pick order. Is there a video that gives you very specific instructions?
Since these seem to require the .015 pics, and I'm in Europe, in thinking of getting some .015 pickset to start learning with.
if I get the sparrows or multipick windowed training locks, can I use the 015 pics for those as well or will that be a waste?
Do you have specific recommendations for beginners in Scandinavia?
I'm a complete beginner.
I think we were ALL fooled the with you Bill.
Just got my first lock pick kit and looking forward to learning the Bosnian bill way! Subscribe!
I have been looking for locks like this
Good morning sir.
Nice picking! ;-)
It would be nice if they sold a tensioner and three 15thou hooks with the set.
i keep picturing rodney dangerfield during this video
So when picking the final pin, why not change picks to the next size progressive curve, it would save you struggling a straining with a pick that is not really appropriate for the task and probably make life a little easier, just a thought !
Just like me, I always find it hard to drop my initial mindset!
Yale kite mark as found on video 1815.
Mine is already in the mail...I guess I have my work cut out for me.
Bill, do you have any tips for left handed pickers?
the feel inside the lock is the same. only difference with being a lefty is tensioning. finding a comfortable position when picking in hand can be tricky. don't be afraid to bend some tension tools to make it easier to hold.
@@GreyHazRoot bottom of the keyway tensioning is not a problem, neither is top of the keyway going counterclockwise, but clockwise I've got to hold the lock upside down (very uncomfortable and awkward) how would you bend a tension tool in a way that would allow me to hold the lock upright?
@@robertjesse1022 Remember that real world locks turn either way, depending only on the door. Don't focus your practice on one direction. Bare cylinders like these work both ways to fit any door, so just mirror what you see in right handed videos.
Assuming it's for me. Well ya know from first hand experience assuming not good. I'm a true beginner. Waiting on my first pick set
How do you enter the giveaway. Sorry I'm new.
Man this would be perfect for me, I just ordered my Monstrum + a .015 sparrows kit, about 3-4 days ago. Definitely entertaining the give away. Fingers crossed 🤞
I love my monstrum picks! Imma bet you will too. Welcome to a new addiction
@@false-set thank you, it seemed like the best kit for someone who had none of the basic stuff. Excited to see what I can do with it and how sharp I can get my skills.
@@363.2McMasters just practice as much as You can, it’s a perishable skill, you can loose the feel pretty quick but the more you do it the faster you get the feel back, the the lockpicking subreddit, someone posted a really good exercise video today.
Getting the lock open shows that no serious mistakes were made.
That one is way beyond my level.
Wish they made repinning easier.
Looks like good quality locks. What's the difference between buying this and buying a lock in a store?
These were sold by lockpickers with no promise they didn't keep a key.
The price
Lockpicking hubris.
Do you have to be a member to enter the giveaway ?
Maybe that's part of the 'real world' test. You shouldn't assume the one star British standard lock is a one star either. Its probably an insurance grade 3 star lock with uneven springs, and only one standard zero cut pin at the front.
i need one of those vices!!!!
I would love a chance to win these. I'm new to lock picking and would love something like this
Wow that made you work for it
Buy them from ebay. You get the slop from all security pins
looks like a RUKO RB1660 no doubt
😂😂😂 Cold today and you have some serious shrinkage going on. Take a hot shower Bill. 😊
air puffed from the left nostril when he said this
I probably would have made the same mistake of assuming they were in the same order.
plz can i have it ive been trying to learn to lock pick with a bobby pin if its even possible but plz and thankyou
i'm in!!
Don't get how your getting such a good false set. I thought there were stock pins
The tolerances would be terrible if you were getting core turns with every standard set. Jut a daily reminder to those that false sets aren’t important if you know there are spools (and where they are helps). In fact, if you pick them in order you’ll probably only get the last false set before the final pin. They are more of a spool indicator than showing you’re doing things right- as far as I know they show you’re picking out of order if you keep getting them with every set.
If this happens to B.B. I don’t feel so bad.
the card lied to you hard. check out the cut on the back of the lock. it should of been standard pins. the card shows the standard pin lock has the silver tab notch on the back end.
"I was in the pool, I was in the pool!!"
Here's the third lock.
www.homesecureshop.co.uk/products/securit-3-star-high-security-anti-snap-euro-cylinder-door-lock
Nahh I prefer to just buy a cylinder and repin it myself for cheaper. I would not buy it but rather bid on a lock job lot. You could get a ton more for the same price or less. Depends on the deal available.
I would not get this because I would never get it open
Its shrunk and flopping around eh?
That is above my skill level
Oar Sum!
SHRINCAGE IS NOT LOST ON 12 SECONDS
I’ve learned to never trust what a lock manufacturer says. The big head is real when you expect standards and end up with some spooled out monstrosity. It’s humbling.
AM I the first to say "they go no respect"?
Sooooo... The name DANGERFIELD.... might be a clue as to assuming that you can tiptoe through a MINE FIELD
Great site cheers from Ireland would love some free product
High tolerance would be sloppy. e.g. (+/- .020)
Low tolerance would be a tighter fit/ better quality. e.g. ( +/- .002)
I'm new to lockpicking but 23 years as a machinist in semiconductor and aerospace industries. It's always good to sound like you know your stuff when you actually DO know your stuff. Now sound like it! ;)
You're welcome!
Why not practice with actual 'real world' locks? A lot of lockpicking gear seems redundant and overpriced. I'll stick to practicing with locks I get from just asking around and thrift stores, also $70 will buy you some great and challenging 'real world' locks brand new!
boooo we wanted to see you pick the bad boy lol.
We know what happens when you “assume.” 🤣