Who else thinks that Harry stoned was one of the best moments of the whole series haha. He definitely should have met Voldemort so wired up. God imagine what that shit would have been like haha.
Thank you! I loved this scene. So wonderfully done. I get the disappointment of these they cut but I still feel there's so much that's great about this film.
Enrico Salvatore Rizzo I actually love the scene as is. Obviously the books are better, but I like how they talk a bit more about Lily and her magic. It’s both sad and poignant; it brings out the drama of the scene. Slughorn is ashamed, reluctant to give over his memory, and Harry is being strong for him, encouraging him to not hide it and face what he is afraid of, eventually leading to the most critical scene in the whole series of learning Voldemort’s secret!
"Be brave proffesor, be brave like my mother. Otherwise you disgrace her Otherwise she died for nothing Otherwise the bowl will remain empty forever." ~ These dialogues of Harry gave me goosebumps!
I don't think the Harry thought too badly of Horace Slughorn but I believe in time he has learned to forgive him and in my personal opinion Horace Slughorn has been more than a teacher to Harry Potter he has been more like a grandfather figure but I could also say the same for Albus Dumbledore because Harry's Destiny was not meant to be in the Muggle world unfortunately we live in it all the time Harry's true destiny was to be a wizard but he doesn't use dark magic he uses magic to protect and save people he loves witch names not all of magic is evil
I think Slughorn is one of the few faculty members who really seemed more like a teacher than a hero/villain. You can really tell how much he loves being around these children. He has the Slytherin ambition, which can come off as self-serving at times, but you can see how much joy and pain it's brought him to influence children for good and bad. He loves these kids and wants to instill passion in them, and when he saw that passion for magic/potions used to do harm, it crushed him.
I would not even say terrifying. Convincing would be the correct word IMO. It was always said that Voldemort was able to bring people to his side, same probably happened with Slughorn. He was also well-liked during his time in Hogwarts, every teacher (except for Dumbledore) liked him and thought highly of him. He had numerous achievements during that time as well. And very good grades. All things which made Slughorn believe during that time that he is not a evil wizard.
Joe Whitehead in the first few books, we could tell, as the reader, that Draco was going down the Death Eater path but then book 6 came and it totally changed the way I saw Draco
This is perhaps the only time where the film version adds something that improves upon the books. You got a sense of how much Lily meant to Slughorn in the book, but this scene really expressed it quite elegantly, and did so without throwing it in your face.
Yeah that lily petal turned into a fish was beautiful and when she died the magic linked to her died as well how poetic. Definitely this scene was an imaginative improvement.
absolutely. I was reading that part of the book and thinking the same thing which brought me here. This part of the script is incredible and improves upon the book greatly..which is unusual to say the very least.
I have to say I like how Slughorn says "You have no idea what he was like, even then." It really helps to show that Slughorn was in the end another person who had his generosity and kindness taken advantage of by a guy who he realized years after telling the secret of Horcruxes to was rotten to the core. He was sadly not the first person Voldemort tricked, nor would he be the last.
"Please, don't think badly of me when you see it. You have no idea what he was like, even then." I can almost imagine what Voldemort was like back than. He was manipulative, secretive, and a good actor.
He was a cold heartless sociopath. Young Voldemort in this movie shows it very good. He had a lot of charisma and an aura which makes people think that he's fascinating. But he was also dangerous, with no limits nor morals, he liked killing, he liked being fear, to dominate people. Just like Hannibal in a way.
@@arthurchallat8530 young Voldemort always reminded me of Hannibal Lecter. Classy, intelligent and charismatic. Only that Hannibal isn't nearly as monstruous as Voldemort.
I actually sh1t you not... but some modern adult, or teen and LatinAmerican irl i've seen in a casual way - greetings from Mexico btw, but i know my reality and you know yours i guess - make Voldemort to look like just some fair enough pissed off guy at Life with Fair Enough Awesome Motivations.. He was like the guy who hated school and it's teachings and just wanted to get out of there to do his thing, since he was just good at learning Reality, since in the end that's what you gotta do in Life, Learning your Reality and Act Strong with it. Anyways, being Manipulative, Secretive and a Good Actor doesn't make you Evil... but those are things that Good People or Morals People don't like. Those are Mere skills, being ultimately Good People and being ultimately Bad People is more complicated tnan that. Sorry for the heavy post but i just have this sense of when people is really smart in the internet to have a talk with though, so i get hooked lol
@@magallanesagustin4952 This feels actually wrong ... Voldemort was just a strategist, Hannibal literally tasted people and spread being a canibal being like a Fanboy.
My favorite part about this scene is when Slughorn is describing the petal transforming into a fish. “It was beautiful magic...wondrous to behold...” for me this exemplifies the true nature of Slytherin. Book readers will know that Slughorn in addition to being a Slytherin was also Head of Slytherin House when he was a teacher. He’s often a lot of people’s go to for Slytherin done right, as he was one of the few who despite being somewhat cunning and ambitious, decided to stand against the dark lord when it came down to it. For me this scene shows that he embodies the quintessential trait necessary to being a Slytherin. Now obviously there are many factors that go into being sorted into a given house, but most of the time it boils down to a single trait. Bravery, Wisdom, Loyalty, and for Slytherin? Most would probably say Ambition, but I would say it’s Passion. An absolute love for Magic in all it’s forms. That’s why I love this seen, because it shows that. A Slytherin marveling at a cute little spell. So simple, yet so beautiful. It shows that Magic isn’t simply a tool for him to get ahead in life, for him it is his life. It’s his everything.
I love how he says "it transformed", it makes it seem like that simple spell, was so astonishing and beautiful for him, it was like all he knew was normal, and he just saw true magic in all its beauty.
Exactly and it is so beautifully and neaningfully supported by the music. Best moment of the scene together with the masterful monologue of Harry to guide him to do that point.
This was a beautiful scene. It was better than it was in the books. In fact I think the film made Slughorn a far more interesting and likeable character. Slughorn asked Hagrid if he could get some of Aragogs venom in the movie, but in the book he did it sneakily. He came across as just money hungry. And even when he made his confession to Harry, it was because he was drunk and Harry knew he wouldn't remember that in the morning.
Oh my god I love all you guys in this comment right now. HBP and PoA are by far the most beautiful of the films with Order of the phoenix and DH pt. 1 close behind. It was able to get deeper into certain characters that we didn't get to see in the book mainly cuz it's from Harry's perspective. We got Slughorn, growth between Hermione and Ron, but more importantly we see the internal struggle of Draco and his fight with light and darkness (the white and black birds) which then reflects the Malfoy family as a whole, not to mention how much more badass Narcissa was in the films unlike how much of a crybaby she was in the books. The emotional struggles of the characters in the film along with the score, acting, mood and directorial choices make this film so amazing but at the same time so under-appreciated since it excluded certain scenes. Unfortunately many fans only use comparisons as a base for their judgments. But I'm glad there are intellectual fans like you guys that are able to see it in its medium, a film.
I'd also like to add (since I'm currently rereading this part in the book) that Malfoy's internal struggle is so fleshed out in the film. He's just seen, from Harry's pov, as the usual bully from the past years, just sneakier. Another thing I like about this film is it just quickly glazed over the annoying love triangle with Ron, Lavender, and Hermione. Those arguments along with the fact that Ron only moaned Hermione's name in his sleep and then was glossed over was what irked me about the book. The film actually confirmed it was Hermione he said! But yes, Slughorn, Malfoy, and Ron were all made ten times more interesting on film.
+Terrence Smith yeah but the book has more detail in it. That's why I like the book better than the movie when it comes to the 3rd book in the Harry Potter series. The ending of PoA in the movie was a little awkward while the ending in the book was a lot satisfying.
Helena Koerner Of course their's more detail, it's a book. That doesn't automatically make it better though. This scene was done perfectly. Comparisons don't need to be made.
I love that moment where Harry grabs Slughorns wrist to stabilise the little container. He needs to get something done, he needs that information, yet he still empathises and tries to help those he asks to do something for him.
It feels so nice to see that also other persons got it like that. It is so moving exactly this together with the music. Most people focus on other points and punchlines of the scene.
Exactly. He wouldn't have needed to force it out of him if it wasn't necessary but it was and he did try to persuade him to do it to help stop Voldemort finally
@@ladyGZSeChu I still liked him quite a bit in the books. He's just a coward, but he is good people. He has that typical slytherin ambition but he doesn't believe in "by any means necessary". Yes, he has his "Slughorn club" but the way he goes around "leeching" for lack of a better term from his past students is to help them bring out their potential, kinda like what Lucifer seems to do in the Netflix series before the story begins. And most important, he's prejudice free. He sees people and potential and wants to help realize that potential. He doesn't push or force an ideology to people and he never truly abuses his power. He's a normal professor, very human too. He doesn't look that great because he is surrounded by heroes like McGonagall, Dumbledore, Sprout, Flittwick... Who go beyond doing good and show bravery at every opportunity
This is for me the most beautiful scene from all the saga. It's perfect, emotional, the music just wonderfuly accompanying Slughorn's confession with this sweet and nostalgic flute piece... Simply beautiful. That's why this movie is my favorite from all the 8.
This. My second favourite is also from this movie: Hermione crying in Harry's arms, the camera slowly panning out to lovers' kissing and Draco contemplating his fate. Powerful stuff. ruclips.net/video/ucS3xMZcrHQ/видео.html
Goblet of Fire was my favourite movie. It gave a feeling of how big the magical world actually is. It was so cool with how other schools slept in hogwarts making it so full of life during that year.
I lost my mother three years ago. Hearing Harry speak to Slughorn is like hearing my conscience speak to me that I need to keep moving forward and never give up on myself. Otherwise I disgrace her, otherwise the bowl will remain empty, otherwise she died for nothing.
If the fish swims up a waterfall, it'll find in it's heart a dragon. Alternatively, just smack random Pokemon with that fish until it eveolves into a Garados.
Honestly I prefer this scene over the book's version. I feel there really is just much more emotion with it. The whole fish story is kinda touching and sad and it really adds more depth to Slughorn's relationship with Lily Evans. This was definately one of the better of the movies.
Fun fact: Jim Broadbent (the actor who plays Slughorn) is actually an inch taller than Robbie Coltrane (Hagrid)! What you see here is the magic of camera work, making Hagrid look twice the size of Slughorn.
This might be my favorite scene in the entire series. Watching Slughorn grapple with feelings of shame and regret is so powerful, and the appeals Harry makes to convince him to divulge the truth are so sincere.
Slunhorn was no fool, an accomplished wizard, a potions master, and professor. He might have gotten drunk in celebration of him getting a lot of loot from that night, and a funeral. But when he says "I know why you are here." Even in that state he realized Harry had taken the liquid luck potion, the potion he made, and was trying to get info out of him. He still tried to resist. Slughorn gave up the info not because of liquid luck, but because he realized it was the right thing to do. Even if it cost him his life. Slughorn was a good person, until the end.
In the books, Slughorn actually fought Voldemort during the battle of Hogwarts. Seeing this scene makes me wish I could have seen this on screen. Slughorn was plagued by guilt and fear because of what he told Tom Riddle all those years ago, it would’ve been amazing to see him be brave and face his demons like that.
He also duelled face to face with Voldemort himself, and aided by Minerva Mcgonagall, held the dark lord off for as long as he could. I think Voldemort won the duel, and blasted him away. He lived, but that must have taken more courage than a Gryffindor- fighting your worst nightmare.
He drank that whole bottle before going to find Slughorn. It ain’t wearing off that quickly. Slughorn in the books says just a teaspoon or two is enough for an entire day.
Harry high out of his brains was one of the best moments of the whole series haha. He really should have met Voldemort so stoned, I mean it would have been too funny.
@@cramuel256 🤡 You need to read books buddy, Snape doesn't see Harry as his own person, but James Potter the modern version, always compares him to his father in a negative way, Dumbledore and Slughorn are the only ones who compare Harry to his mother ,everyone’s is fooled by the physical similarity between Harry and James
Cynder's sister he really is in the deathly hallows book Harry guilt trips lupin because he wanted to leave tonks because she was pregnant to help Harry on his mission to find Horcruxes, it results in Lupin jinxing Harry and walking out on them.
@@strahinjagov that and also because Harry had no choice. He hates using his fame to his advantage. If there was an easier way for him to get slughorn to cooperate I'm sure he would gladly do it
I love the way he says "just beautiful magic" In the harry potter world magic is rather commonplace (obviously) and so there's all sorts of wondrous things that happen without anyone giving a second glance. hearing someone regard a bit of magic with such reverence, such genuine awe and joy, is so refreshing in this universe. you can tell how much it meant to him that he remembers it such
"Be brave professor, be brave like my mother, otherwise you'd disgrace her, otherwise she would have died for nothing otherwise the bowl will remain empty forever" The fact that Slughorn was so scared and ashamed of himself and what he did, comes out so well in this scene and Harry helping him overcome that pain was just amazing. The fact that he cups his hands like a "bowl" as Slughorn was shaking while putting his memory into a test tube, was literally one of the highlights of this film. Sometimes you just need some help from others to fight your demons and for that to happen you have to forego your pride and facade, first and foremost.
I hear alot about the details like Harry holding his hand, but the shit i love is slughorn staring wide eyed at harry. Shock, sadness, shame, fear... and then all of a sudden acceptance. Thats damn good acting
I love this scene because it shows that being sorted into a certain House doesn't dictate your personality. Here we have Slughorn, a Slytherin who shows a level of bravery that a lot of Gryffindors wouldn't be capable of. A lot of people look at this scene they ask "Oh why does Slughorn cares about his image so much? If he has the secret to Voldemort's immortality than he should just give it up." These people really don't understand the predicament Slughorn is in. Think about it, if word got out that Slughorn was the one who gave Voldemort the key to immortality than it wouldn't just "ruin his image". Slughorn would get hunted down and lynched by a mob of witches and wizards who have lost their loved ones to Voldemort. By giving this secret to Harry, Slughorn is literally putting not just his career but his life on the line just to ensure Voldemort gets killed. He quite literally puts his ambitions and thirst for fame aside for the sake of a silent contribution to the greater cause. That's something to be commended.
A lot of people think it’s interesting that slughorn was able to be convinced by Harry to give up the memory………I’m just so impressed he was able to outdrink Hagrid
This is actually my single favorite scene in the entire series and I feel like nobody ever talks about it. The dialogue is really good, Jim Broadbent is acting his ass off and even Daniel is doing a pretty good job, the score is great and the focus of the scene is actually nuanced and interesting. I've gotten a little misty eyed watching this from time to time...
Perfectly expressed. This was my first Harry potter movie and I was impressed by complex dialogues and story telling like this versus my expectations that Harry Potter is just a kids thing. Masterful scene in many of its elements
'Even Daniel' ahhh I cant be arsed. Mate he was incredible in this whole film but not just in this one. He grew as an actor. His performance in the Prisoner of Azkaban, the The order of the phoenix and deathly hallows p1 is also incredible. He still doesnt get the credit he dserves for those performances
A lot of people are pointing out lines from this scene. The line that stands out the most to me is during the story about the fish when he simply says “it was beautiful magic...wondrous to behold...” The reason this stands out to me is that it demonstrates that despite being often crudely ambitious, there’s still a part of Slughorn that deep down is still the little boy who fell in love with the magical world, and can appreciate the beauty in the small things. Book readers will know that Slughorn was originally head of Slytherin house, and he’s a lot of people’s example of a Slytherin done right. This scene exemplifies this to me. Unlike other Slytherin’s, unlike Voldemort and his followers who seem to disdain any kind of weakness, only love themselves, and crave power, Slughorn shows you can balance a desire for glory with a love for small things that may not add to your strength, but can instead refresh your spirit, and bring you joy.
I’m realizing the story about Francis could imply that he was the first one to realize Lily had died. Coming down stairs to find the enchantment was gone and the sinking realization that his wonderful and bright student was gone because he misplaced his trust in another student’s quest for knowledge
I really love this scene the whole series is about Harry growing and becoming more mature. I think this scene is great as he just accepts his destiny as the chosen one and recognizes the sacrifice his parents and others have made too
You're a good boy," said Professor Slughorn, tears trickling down his fat cheeks into his walrus mustache. "And you've got her eyes… Just don't think too badly of me once you've seen it…" And he too put his head on his arms, gave a deep sigh, and fell asleep. One of the 5 top moments of the whole book series.
There are a few scenes I feel the movies did better than the books. In the book, it seemed to imply that all Harry needed to do was get Slughorn drunk because he wouldn't remember giving Harry the memory by the next morning. Whereas in the movie, you can see and feel the great regret Slughorn has carried with him, as well as the story about Francis.
Slughorn was a victim of his own egotism. So eager to be connected to the best and brightest, he often didn't take the time to scrutinise and examine his pupils. He had not so much led Tom down a dark path, but didn't shine a light on it when he was still able to turn away.
Slughorn: Exactly how did you get out of the castle, Harry? Harry: Oh, through the front door, Sir. I'm off to Hagrid's you see he's a dear friend. So, if you don't mind, I will be going now.... Slughorn: HARRY!!!! Harry: .....SIRRR??!!!
This scene has such strong dialogue, especially with what Harry says about his mother’s bravery. Half Blood Price isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but you can’t deny it’s script and dialogue was top notch!
"Please... Don't think badly of me when you see it. You have no idea what he was like, even then." Poor Slughorn. Even in his young age, Tom Riddle was a monster.
He was also charismatic, manipulative, able to get people to like and trust him when they shouldn't have. Harry has seen enough of Voldemort both through their connection and from facing him to know what kind of person he was. Harry may well know him more than pretty much anyone else alive.
I could tell that professor slug horn was afraid but due to Harry words and encouragement he helped defeated Voldemort by telling Harry what the horcruxes were because if Voldemort had been defeated without those horcruxes being destroyed then Voldemort would have been coming back multiple times like before and remained immortal . This scene proved that not all slytherin people are evil like Voldemort aka Tom riddle
Although I love both the books and the movies, the books do most things best. This isn’t one of them. The movie version wipes the floor with the book one. Adding the Lily part elevates it to one of my favorites in the series.
I love this scene not just because it was so emotional, it will prove to anyone that being Slytherin doesn't equate to being"evil". And for the record, Hufflepuff has its own strong points too.
One of the funniest thing is that Hagrid and Slughorn seems to go along pretty well...considering that Slughorn was one of his teachers at Hogwarts when he was a student. Not to mention that the spider he took the venom from was framed as the monster of the Chamber of Secrets.
I like the story of the fish, it was a nice touch on the part of the film makers. I just love the way Lily is a kind of benign presence in the background all the way throughout the books. The way she still influences the living - Harry, Slughorn, Snape... This scene plays into that theme.
Imagine the demons slughorn must have to deal with. He is a decent person but imagine living with the fact that you told one of your students the secrets to immortality and that student ended up being the most evil person alive
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"Be brave professor, be brave like my mother"
- one of the most memorable quotes of the entire series
You got that right! The first time I heard it, I never forgot it.
i think that quote is the reason i love this scene so much.
Who else thinks that Harry stoned was one of the best moments of the whole series haha. He definitely should have met Voldemort so wired up. God imagine what that shit would have been like haha.
@@heyheyheyheyheyhey76 Voldemort: Avada Kedavra!
Harry: Yes, Avada Kedavra it is! And eat slugs too!
Mariana M Thank You
"Don't think badly of me when you see it, I had no idea what he was like even then."
Beautiful soul, Professor Slughorn was.
"you have no idea what he was like" He was feared even then.
Guess he is decent if you look past his shameless favoritism and neglect of students just to make his life easier
yes. there was little natraul love in him, he was a psychopath yet admired and feared by all!
@@finnheisenheim8274 was he? I don't think preferring some students is inherently bad though
@@metaprocrastinator3005 he ignored every student that he didn't think was going to be famous/powerful.
People always complain about what was left out from the films, but they never thank about this beautiful scene.
Thank you! I loved this scene. So wonderfully done. I get the disappointment of these they cut but I still feel there's so much that's great about this film.
I always thank about it.
*in the films
Enrico Salvatore Rizzo I actually love the scene as is. Obviously the books are better, but I like how they talk a bit more about Lily and her magic. It’s both sad and poignant; it brings out the drama of the scene. Slughorn is ashamed, reluctant to give over his memory, and Harry is being strong for him, encouraging him to not hide it and face what he is afraid of, eventually leading to the most critical scene in the whole series of learning Voldemort’s secret!
I think what they put back in in this film is more important then what they took out.
"Be brave proffesor, be brave like my mother.
Otherwise you disgrace her
Otherwise she died for nothing
Otherwise the bowl will remain empty forever." ~ These dialogues of Harry gave me goosebumps!
Especially the last part...
I don't think the Harry thought too badly of Horace Slughorn but I believe in time he has learned to forgive him and in my personal opinion Horace Slughorn has been more than a teacher to Harry Potter he has been more like a grandfather figure but I could also say the same for Albus Dumbledore because Harry's Destiny was not meant to be in the Muggle world unfortunately we live in it all the time Harry's true destiny was to be a wizard but he doesn't use dark magic he uses magic to protect and save people he loves witch names not all of magic is evil
I actually cried at this scene. It was so moving. ☺️😭
Harry literally gaslit slughorn into giving up that memory 😂
@@TheGosgosh forreal that luck potions just makes you become a master gaslighter and manipulator 😂
I think Slughorn is one of the few faculty members who really seemed more like a teacher than a hero/villain. You can really tell how much he loves being around these children. He has the Slytherin ambition, which can come off as self-serving at times, but you can see how much joy and pain it's brought him to influence children for good and bad. He loves these kids and wants to instill passion in them, and when he saw that passion for magic/potions used to do harm, it crushed him.
“You’ve no idea what he was like, even then” perfect line. Perfectly sums up how terrifying Voldemort was
i agree
The sad thing is that he is telling this to someone who knows Voldemort better than anyone else.
We understand and I promise you Horace we will stop Tom.
I would not even say terrifying. Convincing would be the correct word IMO. It was always said that Voldemort was able to bring people to his side, same probably happened with Slughorn. He was also well-liked during his time in Hogwarts, every teacher (except for Dumbledore) liked him and thought highly of him. He had numerous achievements during that time as well. And very good grades.
All things which made Slughorn believe during that time that he is not a evil wizard.
“Don’t say his name!”
One of the few film scenes which i thought was better than the books! The Lily story was beautiful
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True
Heresy.
Horace Slughorn was proof that not all Slytherins are Evil.
Snape & Malfoy are proof that Slytherins are also conflicting & complicated
@@joewhitehead3 Not Malefoy. Or at least not in the books. He is purely bad. And Snape's not an angel too.
Jules Caruel he never said they weren’t evil. They are both conflicting/complicated which is true
Z _ Exactly. Thanks
Joe Whitehead in the first few books, we could tell, as the reader, that Draco was going down the Death Eater path but then book 6 came and it totally changed the way I saw Draco
This is perhaps the only time where the film version adds something that improves upon the books. You got a sense of how much Lily meant to Slughorn in the book, but this scene really expressed it quite elegantly, and did so without throwing it in your face.
Yeah that lily petal turned into a fish was beautiful and when she died the magic linked to her died as well how poetic. Definitely this scene was an imaginative improvement.
Okay either Harry Potter fans are all perfect or we all have the same feels ( ･ω･)ﾉ
ita he's an excellent actor.
100nitrog agreed, I think it really said a lot about Lily"s personality
absolutely. I was reading that part of the book and thinking the same thing which brought me here. This part of the script is incredible and improves upon the book greatly..which is unusual to say the very least.
I have to say I like how Slughorn says "You have no idea what he was like, even then." It really helps to show that Slughorn was in the end another person who had his generosity and kindness taken advantage of by a guy who he realized years after telling the secret of Horcruxes to was rotten to the core. He was sadly not the first person Voldemort tricked, nor would he be the last.
Indeed, Voldemort has tricked and betrayed many people over the course of his life.
The entire plot of this series revolves around people simping after Harry’s dead mom
Right? Or his father
"You have your mother's eyes."
- Literally everyone
Jeez imagine going to the bathroom then hearing someone scream: “yOu hAvE yOuR mOtHeR’s eYeS”
It just shows us that kind people are remembered always.
@@roronoazoro2496 well, that or everyone was just really horny with her
"Please, don't think badly of me when you see it. You have no idea what he was like, even then." I can almost imagine what Voldemort was like back than. He was manipulative, secretive, and a good actor.
He was a cold heartless sociopath. Young Voldemort in this movie shows it very good. He had a lot of charisma and an aura which makes people think that he's fascinating. But he was also dangerous, with no limits nor morals, he liked killing, he liked being fear, to dominate people. Just like Hannibal in a way.
@@arthurchallat8530 young Voldemort always reminded me of Hannibal Lecter. Classy, intelligent and charismatic. Only that Hannibal isn't nearly as monstruous as Voldemort.
I actually sh1t you not... but some modern adult, or teen and LatinAmerican irl i've seen in a casual way - greetings from Mexico btw, but i know my reality and you know yours i guess - make Voldemort to look like just some fair enough pissed off guy at Life with Fair Enough Awesome Motivations.. He was like the guy who hated school and it's teachings and just wanted to get out of there to do his thing, since he was just good at learning Reality, since in the end that's what you gotta do in Life, Learning your Reality and Act Strong with it. Anyways, being Manipulative, Secretive and a Good Actor doesn't make you Evil... but those are things that Good People or Morals People don't like. Those are Mere skills, being ultimately Good People and being ultimately Bad People is more complicated tnan that.
Sorry for the heavy post but i just have this sense of when people is really smart in the internet to have a talk with though, so i get hooked lol
@@magallanesagustin4952 This feels actually wrong ... Voldemort was just a strategist, Hannibal literally tasted people and spread being a canibal being like a Fanboy.
My favorite part about this scene is when Slughorn is describing the petal transforming into a fish.
“It was beautiful magic...wondrous to behold...” for me this exemplifies the true nature of Slytherin. Book readers will know that Slughorn in addition to being a Slytherin was also Head of Slytherin House when he was a teacher. He’s often a lot of people’s go to for Slytherin done right, as he was one of the few who despite being somewhat cunning and ambitious, decided to stand against the dark lord when it came down to it. For me this scene shows that he embodies the quintessential trait necessary to being a Slytherin. Now obviously there are many factors that go into being sorted into a given house, but most of the time it boils down to a single trait. Bravery, Wisdom, Loyalty, and for Slytherin? Most would probably say Ambition, but I would say it’s Passion. An absolute love for Magic in all it’s forms. That’s why I love this seen, because it shows that. A Slytherin marveling at a cute little spell. So simple, yet so beautiful. It shows that Magic isn’t simply a tool for him to get ahead in life, for him it is his life. It’s his everything.
Agreed. Especially, the part of passion for magic. For them it's everything.
Woww nice perspective I agree with your views
thats so beautiful
I love how he says "it transformed", it makes it seem like that simple spell, was so astonishing and beautiful for him, it was like all he knew was normal, and he just saw true magic in all its beauty.
In my experience, ambition is usually just an exaggerated form of passion
Harry holding Slughorns hands while he give him the memory to prevent it from shaking, absolutely beautiful.
Exactly and it is so beautifully and neaningfully supported by the music. Best moment of the scene together with the masterful monologue of Harry to guide him to do that point.
Yes! I was just thinking it's like the essence of encouragement-giving some of your own courage to someone else.
This was a beautiful scene. It was better than it was in the books. In fact I think the film made Slughorn a far more interesting and likeable character.
Slughorn asked Hagrid if he could get some of Aragogs venom in the movie, but in the book he did it sneakily. He came across as just money hungry. And even when he made his confession to Harry, it was because he was drunk and Harry knew he wouldn't remember that in the morning.
Terrence Smith PoA and HBP are clearly the two best films in the series. Both great art films.
Oh my god I love all you guys in this comment right now. HBP and PoA are by far the most beautiful of the films with Order of the phoenix and DH pt. 1 close behind. It was able to get deeper into certain characters that we didn't get to see in the book mainly cuz it's from Harry's perspective. We got Slughorn, growth between Hermione and Ron, but more importantly we see the internal struggle of Draco and his fight with light and darkness (the white and black birds) which then reflects the Malfoy family as a whole, not to mention how much more badass Narcissa was in the films unlike how much of a crybaby she was in the books.
The emotional struggles of the characters in the film along with the score, acting, mood and directorial choices make this film so amazing but at the same time so under-appreciated since it excluded certain scenes. Unfortunately many fans only use comparisons as a base for their judgments. But I'm glad there are intellectual fans like you guys that are able to see it in its medium, a film.
I'd also like to add (since I'm currently rereading this part in the book) that Malfoy's internal struggle is so fleshed out in the film. He's just seen, from Harry's pov, as the usual bully from the past years, just sneakier. Another thing I like about this film is it just quickly glazed over the annoying love triangle with Ron, Lavender, and Hermione. Those arguments along with the fact that Ron only moaned Hermione's name in his sleep and then was glossed over was what irked me about the book. The film actually confirmed it was Hermione he said! But yes, Slughorn, Malfoy, and Ron were all made ten times more interesting on film.
+Terrence Smith yeah but the book has more detail in it. That's why I like the book better than the movie when it comes to the 3rd book in the Harry Potter series. The ending of PoA in the movie was a little awkward while the ending in the book was a lot satisfying.
Helena Koerner Of course their's more detail, it's a book. That doesn't automatically make it better though. This scene was done perfectly. Comparisons don't need to be made.
I love that moment where Harry grabs Slughorns wrist to stabilise the little container. He needs to get something done, he needs that information, yet he still empathises and tries to help those he asks to do something for him.
It feels so nice to see that also other persons got it like that. It is so moving exactly this together with the music. Most people focus on other points and punchlines of the scene.
Exactly. He wouldn't have needed to force it out of him if it wasn't necessary but it was and he did try to persuade him to do it to help stop Voldemort finally
“I once had a fish, Francis, he was very dear to me”
Protect Professor Slughorn at all costs😂
Slughorn really was an awesome character, and that scene demonstrates it quite clearly.
BuckDanny2314 he’s not that likeable in the books, he’s way more manipulative as a character.. he’s a slytherin after all
@@ladyGZSeChu I still liked him quite a bit in the books. He's just a coward, but he is good people. He has that typical slytherin ambition but he doesn't believe in "by any means necessary". Yes, he has his "Slughorn club" but the way he goes around "leeching" for lack of a better term from his past students is to help them bring out their potential, kinda like what Lucifer seems to do in the Netflix series before the story begins. And most important, he's prejudice free. He sees people and potential and wants to help realize that potential. He doesn't push or force an ideology to people and he never truly abuses his power. He's a normal professor, very human too.
He doesn't look that great because he is surrounded by heroes like McGonagall, Dumbledore, Sprout, Flittwick... Who go beyond doing good and show bravery at every opportunity
I love Jim Broadbent's acting in this. The scene is the emotional heart of the movie
"Be brave, Professor..."
Alassandros And he was.
Well, he faced Voldemort head on in the book so..... He was the definition of brave
"Be brave like my mother..."
@@UchihaFabio In his pyjamas no less! XD
0.11 how cute Harry claps his hands like a small boy!!😍😍😙😙😙😙
It's 0:11
Loll😍😍😂
Vinita Sharma bruh
Well he was 16 so he was sort of a kid.
The part where Harry helps hold his hand steady is a perfect personification of Harry as a character
Really love this scene. The whole fish thing wasn't mentioned in the books, but it was a perfect addition.
rutger5000 you're wrong, of course fish thing is mentioned
@@Annieee311 it isn't
It absolutely is, JK Rowling said "Harry identified as an amphibian the whole time."
This is for me the most beautiful scene from all the saga. It's perfect, emotional, the music just wonderfuly accompanying Slughorn's confession with this sweet and nostalgic flute piece... Simply beautiful. That's why this movie is my favorite from all the 8.
IKR? It's not my favorite movie out of all of the Harry Potter movies but this is certainly an awesomely emotional scene.
Jazz yep its my favorite movie to especially bc of the DARK theme it had...
This. My second favourite is also from this movie: Hermione crying in Harry's arms, the camera slowly panning out to lovers' kissing and Draco contemplating his fate. Powerful stuff. ruclips.net/video/ucS3xMZcrHQ/видео.html
Jazz As it happens this is also my favourites scene. By any chance do you know the name of the music which is played here?
Goblet of Fire was my favourite movie. It gave a feeling of how big the magical world actually is. It was so cool with how other schools slept in hogwarts making it so full of life during that year.
I lost my mother three years ago. Hearing Harry speak to Slughorn is like hearing my conscience speak to me that I need to keep moving forward and never give up on myself. Otherwise I disgrace her, otherwise the bowl will remain empty, otherwise she died for nothing.
I'm sorry for your loss, and you are very brave for moving forward. I'm sure your mother is very proud of you.
I’m sorry for your lost mate.
I’m sorry 😢😢
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Thank you for sticking around.
I'm glad you exist.
I find it adorable how Harry grabs Slughorns hand while he puts his memory in The tube thing because his arm is shaking. Just a small detail I loved
Lily right there
Book: "She gave her life and you won't give a memory?"
Movie: "Or else, the bowl will remain empty.. forever."
Both hit hard. 😢
I prefer the movie one. Its wittier, deeper, and more meaningfull.
Without being snarky or aggressive.
@@davecrupel2817 I don't remember even posting this. Haha. I was reading the books for the first time. Yes, I prefer the movie line as well.
Hagrid: "I hatched a dragon!"
Slughorn: "I once had a fish."
If the fish swims up a waterfall, it'll find in it's heart a dragon.
Alternatively, just smack random Pokemon with that fish until it eveolves into a Garados.
It was a beaultiful scene, wondrous to behold
Honestly I prefer this scene over the book's version. I feel there really is just much more emotion with it. The whole fish story is kinda touching and sad and it really adds more depth to Slughorn's relationship with Lily Evans. This was definately one of the better of the movies.
9 years ago and I still agree with this comment
Fun fact: Jim Broadbent (the actor who plays Slughorn) is actually an inch taller than Robbie Coltrane (Hagrid)! What you see here is the magic of camera work, making Hagrid look twice the size of Slughorn.
And costuming a Robbie Coltrane was on stilts or something throughout the films if I remember correctly
@@poppyarnold3128 That's right. Robbie Coltrane had a special suit that he had to wear in order to be Hargid.
This might be my favorite scene in the entire series. Watching Slughorn grapple with feelings of shame and regret is so powerful, and the appeals Harry makes to convince him to divulge the truth are so sincere.
Slunhorn was no fool, an accomplished wizard, a potions master, and professor. He might have gotten drunk in celebration of him getting a lot of loot from that night, and a funeral. But when he says "I know why you are here." Even in that state he realized Harry had taken the liquid luck potion, the potion he made, and was trying to get info out of him. He still tried to resist. Slughorn gave up the info not because of liquid luck, but because he realized it was the right thing to do. Even if it cost him his life. Slughorn was a good person, until the end.
He said that it would ruin him if someone found out, but in the end, it redeemed him
The little hand hold from Harry at last also says volumes about his nature. That was so adorable
Harry's mother was such a beautiful woman who touched everyone, lol, even Severus Snape! I'm glad his father grew up later on, though.
In the books, Slughorn actually fought Voldemort during the battle of Hogwarts. Seeing this scene makes me wish I could have seen this on screen. Slughorn was plagued by guilt and fear because of what he told Tom Riddle all those years ago, it would’ve been amazing to see him be brave and face his demons like that.
He also duelled face to face with Voldemort himself, and aided by Minerva Mcgonagall, held the dark lord off for as long as he could. I think Voldemort won the duel, and blasted him away. He lived, but that must have taken more courage than a Gryffindor- fighting your worst nightmare.
One of the few scenes that gets to me more in the movies than it does in the books. It really shows the weight of the sacrifice Lily made for Harry.
Lauren Burke it also shows what a beautiful person Lily was, to know her was to love her
Lily, Narcissa Malfoy, Molly Weasley, so many perfect examples of remarkable mother's! 🤍🤎💙
These films just have the best casting. Thank goodness.
Notice how Harry suddenly stops being funny and/or having a smile on his face when he says "Poof"? What if his "poof" is the potion wearing off?
Justin Stetser no the potion didn't wear off until he reached the entrance to Gryffindor common room
He drank that whole bottle before going to find Slughorn. It ain’t wearing off that quickly. Slughorn in the books says just a teaspoon or two is enough for an entire day.
@@AlasdairGR He didn't drink the whole thing he only drank a little and gave the rest to the DA members when he went with Dumbledore to the cave.
Dylan Rich In the books yes. But here he glugs the whole thing down.
Harry high out of his brains was one of the best moments of the whole series haha. He really should have met Voldemort so stoned, I mean it would have been too funny.
Slughorn was the only person that would tell Harry Potter that he reminded him of his mother and not his father.
you're forgetting Snape
WRONG
@@cramuel256
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You need to read books buddy, Snape doesn't see Harry as his own person, but James Potter the modern version, always compares him to his father in a negative way, Dumbledore and Slughorn are the only ones who compare Harry to his mother ,everyone’s is fooled by the physical similarity between Harry and James
It would seem as though Harry is very good at guilt-tripping people.
Cynder's sister He used Felix Felicis.
1. Harry was on Felix Felicis
2. Slughorn already felt guilty, hence why he altered the memory in the first place
Cynder's sister This wasn't a guilt-trip, this was truth.
Cynder's sister he really is in the deathly hallows book Harry guilt trips lupin because he wanted to leave tonks because she was pregnant to help Harry on his mission to find Horcruxes, it results in Lupin jinxing Harry and walking out on them.
@@strahinjagov that and also because Harry had no choice. He hates using his fame to his advantage. If there was an easier way for him to get slughorn to cooperate I'm sure he would gladly do it
When Harry takes Slughorn's shaking hand and helps him is such a touching beautiful moment. Gets me every time.
I love the way he says "just beautiful magic"
In the harry potter world magic is rather commonplace (obviously) and so there's all sorts of wondrous things that happen without anyone giving a second glance. hearing someone regard a bit of magic with such reverence, such genuine awe and joy, is so refreshing in this universe. you can tell how much it meant to him that he remembers it such
"Be brave professor, be brave like my mother, otherwise you'd disgrace her, otherwise she would have died for nothing otherwise the bowl will remain empty forever" The fact that Slughorn was so scared and ashamed of himself and what he did, comes out so well in this scene and Harry helping him overcome that pain was just amazing. The fact that he cups his hands like a "bowl" as Slughorn was shaking while putting his memory into a test tube, was literally one of the highlights of this film.
Sometimes you just need some help from others to fight your demons and for that to happen you have to forego your pride and facade, first and foremost.
This scene takes you from sadness of the death of Aragog, to joy from the drunken story telling, and right back to the whole reason Harry is there.
I hear alot about the details like Harry holding his hand, but the shit i love is slughorn staring wide eyed at harry. Shock, sadness, shame, fear... and then all of a sudden acceptance. Thats damn good acting
I love this scene because it shows that being sorted into a certain House doesn't dictate your personality. Here we have Slughorn, a Slytherin who shows a level of bravery that a lot of Gryffindors wouldn't be capable of. A lot of people look at this scene they ask "Oh why does Slughorn cares about his image so much? If he has the secret to Voldemort's immortality than he should just give it up." These people really don't understand the predicament Slughorn is in. Think about it, if word got out that Slughorn was the one who gave Voldemort the key to immortality than it wouldn't just "ruin his image". Slughorn would get hunted down and lynched by a mob of witches and wizards who have lost their loved ones to Voldemort. By giving this secret to Harry, Slughorn is literally putting not just his career but his life on the line just to ensure Voldemort gets killed. He quite literally puts his ambitions and thirst for fame aside for the sake of a silent contribution to the greater cause. That's something to be commended.
A lot of people think it’s interesting that slughorn was able to be convinced by Harry to give up the memory………I’m just so impressed he was able to outdrink Hagrid
"_Thats life, I suppose... You go along and suddenly, POOF_"
Slughorn is underrated lol XD
When i say this scene always gets me 🤦🏽♀️ literally typing this and wiping tears from my face! Flawless acting!!!
Wow. My own comment didn’t age well at all. R.I.P Drew ❤️🥺
@@turquoiselomax8965 Who's Drew?
This is actually my single favorite scene in the entire series and I feel like nobody ever talks about it. The dialogue is really good, Jim Broadbent is acting his ass off and even Daniel is doing a pretty good job, the score is great and the focus of the scene is actually nuanced and interesting. I've gotten a little misty eyed watching this from time to time...
Perfectly expressed. This was my first Harry potter movie and I was impressed by complex dialogues and story telling like this versus my expectations that Harry Potter is just a kids thing. Masterful scene in many of its elements
'Even Daniel' ahhh I cant be arsed. Mate he was incredible in this whole film but not just in this one. He grew as an actor. His performance in the Prisoner of Azkaban, the The order of the phoenix and deathly hallows p1 is also incredible. He still doesnt get the credit he dserves for those performances
A lot of people are pointing out lines from this scene. The line that stands out the most to me is during the story about the fish when he simply says “it was beautiful magic...wondrous to behold...”
The reason this stands out to me is that it demonstrates that despite being often crudely ambitious, there’s still a part of Slughorn that deep down is still the little boy who fell in love with the magical world, and can appreciate the beauty in the small things. Book readers will know that Slughorn was originally head of Slytherin house, and he’s a lot of people’s example of a Slytherin done right. This scene exemplifies this to me. Unlike other Slytherin’s, unlike Voldemort and his followers who seem to disdain any kind of weakness, only love themselves, and crave power, Slughorn shows you can balance a desire for glory with a love for small things that may not add to your strength, but can instead refresh your spirit, and bring you joy.
Dear Molly,
watching over Fred like you have been watching over my Harry all these years.
Love, Lily.
This is the best scene in the HP movies.
I’m realizing the story about Francis could imply that he was the first one to realize Lily had died. Coming down stairs to find the enchantment was gone and the sinking realization that his wonderful and bright student was gone because he misplaced his trust in another student’s quest for knowledge
"It was beautiful magic, wondrous to behold" got be one of the best lines.
You can see Slughorn's pain. He's definitely been holding the guilt of Lily's death, and can't face the horror of what he caused.
My favourite character from the whole Harry Potter world, I just adore Professor Slughorn.
RIP Robbie Coltrane. Absolute legend
0:31 I always find it hilarious how Hagrid slams his drink down looking really confused, drunkenly saying " 's very odd innit..?"
I really love this scene the whole series is about Harry growing and becoming more mature. I think this scene is great as he just accepts his destiny as the chosen one and recognizes the sacrifice his parents and others have made too
The music is gorgeous. Easily the most beautiful scene in all of Harry Potter, and way up there as one of the most beautiful scenes ever.
I like when Harry clapping his hands it's so cute 💚
I like to think that Harry wasn't just steadying Slughorns hand. But he was also conveying that he forgave him.
You're a good boy," said Professor Slughorn, tears trickling down his fat cheeks into his walrus mustache. "And you've got her eyes… Just don't think too badly of me once you've seen it…"
And he too put his head on his arms, gave a deep sigh, and fell asleep.
One of the 5 top moments of the whole book series.
There are a few scenes I feel the movies did better than the books.
In the book, it seemed to imply that all Harry needed to do was get Slughorn drunk because he wouldn't remember giving Harry the memory by the next morning.
Whereas in the movie, you can see and feel the great regret Slughorn has carried with him, as well as the story about Francis.
I love the height difference between Hagrid an Slughorn. xD
Ayianna Barnes As opposed to Hagrid’s height difference to everyone? Lol
Yeah, you have a problem with that?
Ayianna Barnes No, of course not
@@joewhitehead3 Except Madam Maxime of course, Who dwarfes him.☺
My favorite scene from all 8 movies! Seriously, I always cry, no matter what
Murilo Dias Because you understood it, that‘s why👍.
Slughorn was a victim of his own egotism. So eager to be connected to the best and brightest, he often didn't take the time to scrutinise and examine his pupils. He had not so much led Tom down a dark path, but didn't shine a light on it when he was still able to turn away.
the musical score is absolutely gorgeous
This scene is beautiful.
"You have your mother's eyes"
"Sir why are you looking at my chest?"
Slughorn: Exactly how did you get out of the castle, Harry?
Harry: Oh, through the front door, Sir. I'm off to Hagrid's you see he's a dear friend. So, if you don't mind, I will be going now....
Slughorn: HARRY!!!!
Harry: .....SIRRR??!!!
This scene has such strong dialogue, especially with what Harry says about his mother’s bravery. Half Blood Price isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but you can’t deny it’s script and dialogue was top notch!
Best part, though, has always been the "poff".
I just love Jim Broadbent.
I honestly think these actors have a Oscar performance in this scene.
"Please... Don't think badly of me when you see it. You have no idea what he was like, even then."
Poor Slughorn. Even in his young age, Tom Riddle was a monster.
He was also charismatic, manipulative, able to get people to like and trust him when they shouldn't have. Harry has seen enough of Voldemort both through their connection and from facing him to know what kind of person he was. Harry may well know him more than pretty much anyone else alive.
I could tell that professor slug horn was afraid but due to Harry words and encouragement he helped defeated Voldemort by telling Harry what the horcruxes were because if Voldemort had been defeated without those horcruxes being destroyed then Voldemort would have been coming back multiple times like before and remained immortal . This scene proved that not all slytherin people are evil like Voldemort aka Tom riddle
Although I love both the books and the movies, the books do most things best. This isn’t one of them. The movie version wipes the floor with the book one. Adding the Lily part elevates it to one of my favorites in the series.
Could you name me at least 3 things the books did better than films
@@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962 number 1, the final battle
People never appreciate these beautiful scenes that have that feeling which the books lack
I love this scene not just because it was so emotional, it will prove to anyone that being Slytherin doesn't equate to being"evil". And for the record, Hufflepuff has its own strong points too.
One os the best scenes of the franchise for sure! With the most beautiful music. The flute melody is my favourite
To think, that story wasn’t even in the book
everytime Hagrid passes out I can't stop laughing 0:50
Cuz of the fart?
Rip Robbie Coltrane aka hagrid
One of the funniest thing is that Hagrid and Slughorn seems to go along pretty well...considering that Slughorn was one of his teachers at Hogwarts when he was a student. Not to mention that the spider he took the venom from was framed as the monster of the Chamber of Secrets.
I like the story of the fish, it was a nice touch on the part of the film makers. I just love the way Lily is a kind of benign presence in the background all the way throughout the books. The way she still influences the living - Harry, Slughorn, Snape... This scene plays into that theme.
Imagine the demons slughorn must have to deal with. He is a decent person but imagine living with the fact that you told one of your students the secrets to immortality and that student ended up being the most evil person alive
The soundtrack for this movie is so good
beautiful thank you for posting. i cant believe its over
This dialogue is literally genius. One of the best lines of dialogue I ever heard in a movie, & this whole movie was a masterpiece.
Harry claps whilst Fang's gone to sleep from boredom on the floor!
I love Lily! Most underrated character in the Harry Potter world? I think yes.
She kinda gets the whole plot going
The music on the flute when Slughorn starts talking about Lily is so beautiful xxx
That one little act of kindness where Slughorn’s hand shakes when he gives up his memory and Harry keeps his hand steady.
“You have no idea what he was like, even then”
This to someone who has unique insight into Riddle's character his followers would do anything to achieve. That somehow makes it sadder to me.
And today Slugorn is about to tell something very big to Samwell Tarly in Oldtown.
Beautiful scene
I love how Slughorn said “Don’t say his name”