the thing about this personality disorder is that people with it are content with being the way they are. They see no benefit in conforming to societal demands. Yes we are loners, but we see the world through a lens, which is more objective than 99% of the population. Why we need to change?
my wife is mad that Im happy the way my life is. I enjoy it, I get to stay to myself for a week at a time when im not at work, and night shift so i dont have to deal with others. Ive got a good house, family , wife and hobbies and im happier than i used to be for sure... but when other people used to praise my ability to be collected, thoughtful and/or indifferent in arguments she gets mad that I dont show enough emotion in fights... I cant tell you the last time I went out with my friends when they asked. I refuse, as I get MORE enjoyment by myself in my computer room than I would paying out the ass to stand around a loud bar to yell into my friends ear about how happening and hip the place is. I pretended to live that life in college, but no more
It's important to note, though, that research into SPD suggests (and there isn't a terrible amount of research, to be fair) that loneliness is as common a factor in the disorder as much as without, and it depends on the individual in how much of that they experience and what methods they use to work with that. We're social animals, and the disorder doesn't seem to override that need, at least not entirely. You might think those with Antisocial Personality Disorder (psychopathy) lack the desire to socialize, for instance, but that's not necessarily true either. Psychopaths readily interact with people, but they do it for their own gain, or at the very least to keep up appearances. Psychopaths also display grandiosity. They can't very well flaunt that grandiosity without people there to see it. They're tools, yes, but they're as necessary a tool for the psychopath as much as relationships are necessary for the average person.
No adrenaline pump and complete emotional numbness due to past trauma. We make great actors in all settings. I sometimes wonder what it’s like to feel again, then I see it all around me and am comforted that I don’t and can’t.
We make amazing actors! My partner is emotional and I sometimes watch him, observe him and I become fascinated and wander what he must be feeling. His love for me, his excitement over a sport, love for food, anger and frustration. All the while I feel nothing at all and it’s pleasant, blissful and still. ❤️
@@Rose-pk6nr You have to find someone like my mother, a person with a lot of issues with lack of self-esteem who will stick with you because of fear of abandonment. That is how she has been with my father for 45 years. And she is BPD and NPD. A nice couple - schizoid and NPD, BPD. Great childhood.
Honestly, this shouldn't even be considered a personality disorder itself, these people seem to be extremely rational and smart to not give in to society's crap
Actually.. they labeled me a schizoid very early in life. My brother died when i was 4, and my mother went quiet, and i felt emotionally alone because my father was sick, and he died when i was 8. My grandfather, so my mothers father died when i was 3. I was always bullied roughly my entire childhood, but it all made me strong, the hunt became my father and my teacher, taught me how to survive just about anything. The hunt is people always trying to get you, and if they get you, you will end up bloody. Since i was 4 until i was 15, it was all a very good game of hide n seek. You see, first you are terrified, and you cry and you cry, until you cry no more, until all your emotions leave you, and then a new personality rises in you, and you start to enjoy the hunt. Then i started on highschool, and the world changed.. put together with people i did not know at all, and they did not know me either, funny how the world works.. and my entire act went with it, suddenly my entire existence was no more, i was free, i was new, i was someone else entirely, i was happy, i regained emotions that i thought was long lost, finally i could laugh and even keep long conversations, and this was all instantly on day 1. Of course the matter of love and empathy took me another decade to find again, but i did find it, i still enjoy my moments alone, i love talking to animals, i think they understand a lot more than we think they do, hehe. My story is the typical story of a serial killer, anyone that goes through what i did has a big chance of becoming something equal to it. But another thing was that i found God after highschool, and He became my father, the hunt was no more, i felt saved and now i talk to Him every day, not just as a prayer, but small talks. And btw.. i cried like a little kid when that turtle in Kung fu panda died, and i do it still at the age of 35. You can find your emotions again, if you look, if you allow yourself to find them. You may think they are weaknesses, but they are really not. =)
We see the reality the way it REALLY is and we rather be WITH OURSELVES than with other people. We are not lonely. We only feel lonely when we are around others because we have be fake. People are ignorant and they are not willing to change. So, it's better to keep a distance 👍🏻
Right so, I read comments here and my story is I love someone who presently is having these symptoms.. He does gets sad sometimes for no reason says that a feeling of emptyness... He is kinda slow in emotions like he doesnt actually expresses complete but does sometimes too, he is a middle child in family ( maybe childhood neglect) . he sometimes pushes me away saying I dont want to depend on other person... he once told me that there came a day where he missed me so much so he decided to push himself away from me so that he's not dependent on me.... idk I kinda beleive he's having a this personality disorder.. I wish I dont lose him, Love of my life
I kind of wish I was bipolar, at least I could have a mania side. I am always just really bland. I never feel nothing. I guess having a mother that hated me most of my childhood. If you can’t trust your mother than who can you trust? I just feel sorry for my wife. I am pretty sure most people want to have someone they can lean on but I don’t.
As someone who is bipolar mania really isn’t as fun as it sounds it’s really not fun at all. I personally have pretty intense spouts of mania and it causes a ton of shit. Having psychotic episodes (not everyone has this but I do), senses like sound and sight becoming so intense it’s physically painful, incredibly irritable, acting completely irrationality, being totally self destructive, and just being a constant ticking time bomb. I totally understand what you mean in a way tho mania and just bipolar itself isn’t exactly accurately portrayed by the media it’s either the person is demonized or their experience is romanticized so I honestly don’t blame you at all. But also with bipolar comes the lows of depression which is also not fun
@@howdoipee I had an uncle while I was growing up who was diagnosed bipolar and schizophrenia and he was really crazy but I knew he loved so I kind of look at people with mental illness a lot differently than most people do.
My wife is Bipolar. She gets mad how objective and blunt I can be, and complains im not emotional enough in fights... I think thats crazy, it serves no purpose. I believe I got to be how I am because I developed an avoidant personality from a distant (But 20 years later loving) father and what I felt was a neglectful mother who spent more time with her friends drinking than with her son who just wanted to play monopoly once a week
Question. It is said that the schizoid personality does not experience social anxiety and that they can manage to keep a job if they work alone. My question is this: "When the schizoid personality is working with others, what do they experience? Aren't they experiencing anxiety and discomfort at that point which is why they do best alone? In other words, what happens to a schizoid personality when working with others; how do they feel in those situations, if not anxiety?"
I don't feel anxious but discomfort yes. Because I want the other person to leave me alone and not constantly have conversations and sharing space it makes me become annoyed and even angry. I will even go as far as doing their job so I don't have to talk with them.
Around others it’s a mix of discomfort, stress and anxiety. Schizoids basically have to “act” around others - this means reading social cues, smiling and pretending you are somewhat interested when in reality your mind is a thousand miles away . Schizoids have a tiny social battery and being around others for even 20-30 minutes can be very draining
I don't feel anything. I'm indifferent to my coworkers and they leave me alone. I don't like perceiving people, I just do my work and go home. When I need to interact with people, I do but I don't feel anything from it. I would say I have trains of thought that connect to what people do and say but no emotion connected to them unless I get triggered.. Then its only one feeling: pain. My experience of emotion equates to pain. A ever present permeating pain, or void encompassing my awareness and numbing me. I dissociate out of my pain.
its more a feeling of mild annoyance with me. its not to say that i dont ever feel anxiety around people though but most of the time it feels like a chore doing general chit chat with people
The doctor doesn't do a physical exam to diagnose this disorder its based on questions and symptoms also its not a serious condition or anything to worry about
Huh? Its not that serious? Weird that I keep hearing people say that, because I had a 3 year psychotic episode and anxiety, and my anxiety was so bad i couldn’t move, speak or sleep. It was literal torture. And to me that anxiety is equally as bad as this disorder. And the psychosis was less debilitating then both. Even these comments, some of these people are acting like they want to be this way? I also have the negative symptoms of psychosis, but that feeling I had that there was this hand ripping my who I am out of my chest, surely that was this disorder. Not the negative symptoms, right?
Go for a psychologist, counselors, psychiatrist. There are process to overcome from the problems if its leading intense level of difficulty in daily life.
Why call it a disorder? Could it not be that we have the critical thinking ability to realize that being alone is preferable to interacting with people that don't deserve our friendship. Of course there are good people , but they are so few and far between that I have practically given up trying to meet them. People in general need to be more honest and less selfish. That should be the objective not inventing a "disorder" for individuals who would rather distance themselves from the hordes of lying, dishonest and in every way despicable people.
Basically an intellectual who is smarter than all the other people around him. Easily bored and annoyed by what the majority of people are doing. Therefore don’t have much interest in socializing with the limited groups that exist. Sounds like anybody throughout history who has had a reasonable amount of intelligence
Schizoids are different from narcissists though, also one of the most disposed from disorders to being least "succesful" in relationships, career and so on, a study showed a lot of homeless were Schizoids or had symptoms too so i wouldnt glorify it as a genius
Not realy schizoid PD has no reported relation to higher intelligence but just poor social abilities although some have been said to have better logical skills they are normally at a disadvantage in life because of the poor social skills and also lack of ability to feel pleasure making them often not particularly ambitious. Someone who feels the way you describe seems more likely to have narcissistic personality disorder lol
@@hnexnuunixeunieuied888sd @Pola @Haze Days if you dont mind me asking do any of you have schizoid personality disorder and also do you excessively daydream (MDD)?
What the fuck are you on about? Being isolated and detached from others is neither a sign of intelligence nor does it make one an intellectual. This perception of intelligence makes you sound less like a schizoid and more like a narcissist, trying to justify your disinterest in others emotionally by proclaiming your superiority.
*So I am helpless. I can't seek help because I am not at all comfertable to do so and doesn't afford an appointment and also I can't even treat myself on my own.* I guess I will have to see myself ruining my life then.
The most effective therapy is CBT = BS. There are so many more helpful and healing modalities. Because CBT is treated as the most scientific modality and psychologist would love to be as close to hard sciences as possible, this one is the most pushed one. Yet, transpersonal, humanistic approaches are more holistic and integrative. I know what I am talking about.
it's important to understand that individuals with Schizoid Personality Disorder typically exhibit a lack of interest in social relationships and emotional coldness, rather than violent tendencies ❤️.
the thing about this personality disorder is that people with it are content with being the way they are. They see no benefit in conforming to societal demands. Yes we are loners, but we see the world through a lens, which is more objective than 99% of the population. Why we need to change?
im curious why do you think that SPD have such an objective POV ?!!
Ehh because the Anhedonia that most schizoids have has a pretty large negative impact on their life
my wife is mad that Im happy the way my life is. I enjoy it, I get to stay to myself for a week at a time when im not at work, and night shift so i dont have to deal with others. Ive got a good house, family , wife and hobbies and im happier than i used to be for sure... but when other people used to praise my ability to be collected, thoughtful and/or indifferent in arguments she gets mad that I dont show enough emotion in fights... I cant tell you the last time I went out with my friends when they asked. I refuse, as I get MORE enjoyment by myself in my computer room than I would paying out the ass to stand around a loud bar to yell into my friends ear about how happening and hip the place is. I pretended to live that life in college, but no more
It's important to note, though, that research into SPD suggests (and there isn't a terrible amount of research, to be fair) that loneliness is as common a factor in the disorder as much as without, and it depends on the individual in how much of that they experience and what methods they use to work with that. We're social animals, and the disorder doesn't seem to override that need, at least not entirely. You might think those with Antisocial Personality Disorder (psychopathy) lack the desire to socialize, for instance, but that's not necessarily true either. Psychopaths readily interact with people, but they do it for their own gain, or at the very least to keep up appearances. Psychopaths also display grandiosity. They can't very well flaunt that grandiosity without people there to see it. They're tools, yes, but they're as necessary a tool for the psychopath as much as relationships are necessary for the average person.
I love this response. This is exactly how I am. I don't understand why others are so bothered.
The core of it all, is that we simply just... want to live, that is it.
I don't want to feel normal, I'm scared. I just want to survive and get through it.
No adrenaline pump and complete emotional numbness due to past trauma. We make great actors in all settings. I sometimes wonder what it’s like to feel again, then I see it all around me and am comforted that I don’t and can’t.
We make amazing actors! My partner is emotional and I sometimes watch him, observe him and I become fascinated and wander what he must be feeling. His love for me, his excitement over a sport, love for food, anger and frustration. All the while I feel nothing at all and it’s pleasant, blissful and still. ❤️
@@lisa-zoehayward3385 then you do feel
same
@@lisa-zoehayward3385 wow how does that work?
All my relationship break when they realize my lack of emotions.
@@Rose-pk6nr You have to find someone like my mother, a person with a lot of issues with lack of self-esteem who will stick with you because of fear of abandonment. That is how she has been with my father for 45 years. And she is BPD and NPD. A nice couple - schizoid and NPD, BPD. Great childhood.
Honestly, this shouldn't even be considered a personality disorder itself, these people seem to be extremely rational and smart to not give in to society's crap
it’s harmful to think like that because it can cause problems. San leaf does a good job at explaining it with his last video
but of course, I do agree there are upsides to it
@@KINIIKIOlike what problems?
Of all the things I lost
I miss my mind the most ...
Bro, I feel u. I miss myself too.
@@NoThing-ec9kmYour old happy and younger self, yeah.
Actually.. they labeled me a schizoid very early in life.
My brother died when i was 4, and my mother went quiet, and i felt emotionally alone because my father was sick, and he died when i was 8. My grandfather, so my mothers father died when i was 3. I was always bullied roughly my entire childhood, but it all made me strong, the hunt became my father and my teacher, taught me how to survive just about anything. The hunt is people always trying to get you, and if they get you, you will end up bloody. Since i was 4 until i was 15, it was all a very good game of hide n seek. You see, first you are terrified, and you cry and you cry, until you cry no more, until all your emotions leave you, and then a new personality rises in you, and you start to enjoy the hunt.
Then i started on highschool, and the world changed.. put together with people i did not know at all, and they did not know me either, funny how the world works.. and my entire act went with it, suddenly my entire existence was no more, i was free, i was new, i was someone else entirely, i was happy, i regained emotions that i thought was long lost, finally i could laugh and even keep long conversations, and this was all instantly on day 1.
Of course the matter of love and empathy took me another decade to find again, but i did find it, i still enjoy my moments alone, i love talking to animals, i think they understand a lot more than we think they do, hehe. My story is the typical story of a serial killer, anyone that goes through what i did has a big chance of becoming something equal to it. But another thing was that i found God after highschool, and He became my father, the hunt was no more, i felt saved and now i talk to Him every day, not just as a prayer, but small talks.
And btw.. i cried like a little kid when that turtle in Kung fu panda died, and i do it still at the age of 35.
You can find your emotions again, if you look, if you allow yourself to find them. You may think they are weaknesses, but they are really not. =)
Your testimony of finding your emotions snf having God being your gatjer is really touching! Thank you for sharing it. 💕👍☺️
We see the reality the way it REALLY is and we rather be WITH OURSELVES than with other people.
We are not lonely. We only feel lonely when we are around others because we have be fake. People are ignorant and they are not willing to change.
So, it's better to keep a distance 👍🏻
Right so, I read comments here and my story is I love someone who presently is having these symptoms.. He does gets sad sometimes for no reason says that a feeling of emptyness... He is kinda slow in emotions like he doesnt actually expresses complete but does sometimes too, he is a middle child in family ( maybe childhood neglect) . he sometimes pushes me away saying I dont want to depend on other person... he once told me that there came a day where he missed me so much so he decided to push himself away from me so that he's not dependent on me.... idk I kinda beleive he's having a this personality disorder.. I wish I dont lose him, Love of my life
I did that with my girlfriend, haven’t been able to get a new one since.
I kind of wish I was bipolar, at least I could have a mania side. I am always just really bland. I never feel nothing. I guess having a mother that hated me most of my childhood. If you can’t trust your mother than who can you trust? I just feel sorry for my wife. I am pretty sure most people want to have someone they can lean on but I don’t.
As someone who is bipolar mania really isn’t as fun as it sounds it’s really not fun at all. I personally have pretty intense spouts of mania and it causes a ton of shit. Having psychotic episodes (not everyone has this but I do), senses like sound and sight becoming so intense it’s physically painful, incredibly irritable, acting completely irrationality, being totally self destructive, and just being a constant ticking time bomb. I totally understand what you mean in a way tho mania and just bipolar itself isn’t exactly accurately portrayed by the media it’s either the person is demonized or their experience is romanticized so I honestly don’t blame you at all. But also with bipolar comes the lows of depression which is also not fun
How or why are you married as a schizoid? If you can’t feel anything then why bother with a partner?
@_____ I wish I could get some blatter Lsd. I have took a few trips in my 20’s and before I wanna try micro dosing.
@@howdoipee I had an uncle while I was growing up who was diagnosed bipolar and schizophrenia and he was really crazy but I knew he loved so I kind of look at people with mental illness a lot differently than most people do.
My wife is Bipolar. She gets mad how objective and blunt I can be, and complains im not emotional enough in fights... I think thats crazy, it serves no purpose. I believe I got to be how I am because I developed an avoidant personality from a distant (But 20 years later loving) father and what I felt was a neglectful mother who spent more time with her friends drinking than with her son who just wanted to play monopoly once a week
Question. It is said that the schizoid personality does not experience social anxiety and that they can manage to keep a job if they work alone. My question is this: "When the schizoid personality is working with others, what do they experience? Aren't they experiencing anxiety and discomfort at that point which is why they do best alone? In other words, what happens to a schizoid personality when working with others; how do they feel in those situations, if not anxiety?"
I don't feel anxious but discomfort yes. Because I want the other person to leave me alone and not constantly have conversations and sharing space it makes me become annoyed and even angry. I will even go as far as doing their job so I don't have to talk with them.
Around others it’s a mix of discomfort, stress and anxiety. Schizoids basically have to “act” around others - this means reading social cues, smiling and pretending you are somewhat interested when in reality your mind is a thousand miles away . Schizoids have a tiny social battery and being around others for even 20-30 minutes can be very draining
I feel as if I'm in the wrong place.
Imagine being a foreigner in a country you have no interest in its culture.
I don't feel anything. I'm indifferent to my coworkers and they leave me alone. I don't like perceiving people, I just do my work and go home. When I need to interact with people, I do but I don't feel anything from it. I would say I have trains of thought that connect to what people do and say but no emotion connected to them unless I get triggered.. Then its only one feeling: pain.
My experience of emotion equates to pain. A ever present permeating pain, or void encompassing my awareness and numbing me. I dissociate out of my pain.
its more a feeling of mild annoyance with me. its not to say that i dont ever feel anxiety around people though but most of the time it feels like a chore doing general chit chat with people
Yeah cause people are not trustworthy at all is much better to stay away from them
you are right on the point, who knows what they are thinking.
Humans are incomprehensible entities, at times it is unbelievable I share their species.
@@anormaldude127 Who knows what we are thinking either, i can easily forget a thought i had 2 minutes ago..
Read my mind
💯 correct
The doctor doesn't do a physical exam to diagnose this disorder its based on questions and symptoms also its not a serious condition or anything to worry about
What about when It is also compounded with other mental disorders like depression or anxiety disorder?
@No Thing schizoid personality is a different disorder than depression, one is a mental illness and the other is a personality disorder
@@midnightblackheart1821 yes🙄
@@midnightblackheart1821 But that doesn't mean a person with schizoid personality disorder can't be delressed?
Huh? Its not that serious? Weird that I keep hearing people say that, because I had a 3 year psychotic episode and anxiety, and my anxiety was so bad i couldn’t move, speak or sleep. It was literal torture. And to me that anxiety is equally as bad as this disorder. And the psychosis was less debilitating then both. Even these comments, some of these people are acting like they want to be this way? I also have the negative symptoms of psychosis, but that feeling I had that there was this hand ripping my who I am out of my chest, surely that was this disorder. Not the negative symptoms, right?
I am this way but I am unique.
Good for u. But I suffer this.
Wow this is literally me
I seem to have this. I love being alone.
It's not that simple. Just loving being alone shows being Introvert, This is more than that.
I just really want to feel in love with someone
I feel love but only with my family and not even my friends.
Exactly how I feel 😭
Why?
Ha, love is evol and will tear you apart ESPECIALLY if you have a personality disorder. Good luck
Do you know any cure for FEAR PROBLEMS AND ANXIETY. Thanks 🙏
Start reading the Bible.Pray to God and find something beneficial to do in life
@@momcilojabucilo9320 please could you send me the Bible. Thanks 🙏
@@shad6519 Where do you live?
@@momcilojabucilo9320 Toronto. Thanks 🙏
Go for a psychologist, counselors, psychiatrist. There are process to overcome from the problems if its leading intense level of difficulty in daily life.
Is there a variant where rather than disinterested, there is an active dislike of socialising?
Let' start our own club. Oh yeah, I forgot we prefer not to socialize
Why call it a disorder? Could it not be that we have the critical thinking ability to realize that being alone is preferable to interacting with people that don't deserve our friendship. Of course there are good people , but they are so few and far between that I have practically given up trying to meet them. People in general need to be more honest and less selfish. That should be the objective not inventing a "disorder" for individuals who would rather distance themselves from the hordes of lying, dishonest and in every way despicable people.
Basically an intellectual who is smarter than all the other people around him. Easily bored and annoyed by what the majority of people are doing. Therefore don’t have much interest in socializing with the limited groups that exist.
Sounds like anybody throughout history who has had a reasonable amount of intelligence
yeah sure
Schizoids are different from narcissists though, also one of the most disposed from disorders to being least "succesful" in relationships, career and so on, a study showed a lot of homeless were Schizoids or had symptoms too so i wouldnt glorify it as a genius
Not realy schizoid PD has no reported relation to higher intelligence but just poor social abilities although some have been said to have better logical skills they are normally at a disadvantage in life because of the poor social skills and also lack of ability to feel pleasure making them often not particularly ambitious. Someone who feels the way you describe seems more likely to have narcissistic personality disorder lol
@@hnexnuunixeunieuied888sd @Pola @Haze Days if you dont mind me asking do any of you have schizoid personality disorder and also do you excessively daydream (MDD)?
What the fuck are you on about? Being isolated and detached from others is neither a sign of intelligence nor does it make one an intellectual. This perception of intelligence makes you sound less like a schizoid and more like a narcissist, trying to justify your disinterest in others emotionally by proclaiming your superiority.
Treatment just puts you back in the herd
*So I am helpless. I can't seek help because I am not at all comfertable to do so and doesn't afford an appointment and also I can't even treat myself on my own.* I guess I will have to see myself ruining my life then.
Self treatment, that whats RUclips is for.
@@Rose-pk6nr hm
Pretty good description
welcome
I think this is me
I wouldn't want it any other way. Emotions are overrated.
In the medical field, emotions can be crucial for patient care and empathy.
@@MedicalCentricPeople who are emotional suffer more.
this is the best personality disorder
if u only knew
The most effective therapy is CBT = BS. There are so many more helpful and healing modalities. Because CBT is treated as the most scientific modality and psychologist would love to be as close to hard sciences as possible, this one is the most pushed one. Yet, transpersonal, humanistic approaches are more holistic and integrative. I know what I am talking about.
I do not consider it a"disorder". It's a lifestyle choice.
Not really.
Its exhausting being around people and not understand their conversation and emotions
Then u are misunderstanding it with something else like Introvertness.
@@Rose-pk6nr Yes bro it's horrible.
Its not a choice. "You cant want what you want"
What the fuck?
👍
bro
Why my girl friend always asks me to do “cognitive behavioral therapy” in bed
Because she thinks you’re crazy
Theres a sadistic murder in Denmark That has it and and he grabed and unalived a Young Girl and grabed other girls 13 15 and 17
it's important to understand that individuals with Schizoid Personality Disorder typically exhibit a lack of interest in social relationships and emotional coldness, rather than violent tendencies ❤️.
It is unimportant to include it.