Ethanol Vs Non-Ethanol Gas & The Affects On Fuel Economy - Is It Worth It?
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2019
- A real world test of fuel economy with ethanol fuel vs non-ethanol fuel.
Watch the video to learn the results!
Do any of your prefer one or the other?
Like this video? Hit that like button & subscribe!
#ethanol # ethanolgas
#ethanol #vs #nonethanol 
Авто/Мото
I have a different reason for going with non-ethanol. I have a motorcycle that only gets about a 110 miles on a 4.5 gallon tank. I tend to get 3-4 mpg better with non-ethanol so the added range is a big plus.
I've been running non ethanol in my Tacoma last six months, and I get three to four miles per gallon more, but the cost is about $.50 per gallon more. My truck runs better, has better power and I like it better.
You will absolutely get better fuel economy, less corrosion/water in the fuel system! I prefer non-ethanol in my personal vehicles as well. Especially the bikes and Shelby. Thanks for the comment!
I am sticking with non ethanol.
I run my Tacoma and my Honda 1000 RR on non ethanol also.
Car maker base their mpg on non ethanol fuel. Non ethanol is the way to go if the price justify.
All I use is non-EtOH gasoline. There's more to it than mileage. Engine and fuel system repairs are expensive as heck. Don't put that poison in your cars, folks
4-8 dollars higher per fill up for 10-15% more power is almost the equivalent of buying a samll turbo without paying for it. im sold man.
Ethanol blended fuels work great for 2 things: daily driven vehicles, and race cars. All other applications where storage and reduced maintenance are common result in issues. My jeep has only ever sat for at most 1 month its whole 19 years, ran perfectly fine except after that one rest, ran fine again with fresh fuel.
Correct, most people will not have an issue other than a little MPG loss with the current E10/E15 blends. The real problem will be when/if they continue to increase the ethanol content of fuel.
Who cares on price, it’s what Ethanol does to the engine internals.
Well, you can add something for that. It solubilizes the water that ethanol attracts. Therefore prevents corrosion.
Boy I would love to have those fuel prices again compared to where I live almost $5.50 a gallon for the non-ethanol
Right! It's getting ridiculous
Vote Trump 2024
Love trump
I would love to go back to the 90s for the price of everything
You should get more credit for this video good job.
Thank KJ, I appreciate that!
So last week was my first time is my first time using non ethanol in my car and its about to be 2 weeks now since fill up. But when I use 10% ethanol, I would fill up every week.
My time is valuable to me. I'll choose the fuel that allows me to fill up less often.
I’m trying it out in my Prius and so far this tank I’m at 56 mpg vs 50 with 10% ethanol. It’s better for the engine and better for global food supply and pollutes less. So manny reasons to run the ethanol free gas.
Pretty sure ethanol gas burns cleaner , so it's "better" for the environment as far as exhaust goes.
@@maverette81 from the research I’ve done, Ethanol has grit that tends to clog the injectors over time and it doesn’t have as much energy by volume so it effectively “waters down” the gas which is why ethanol free gas is better for your engine and give better MPG in most cars.
As for the environmental side, you must include all the energy used to produce the corn and distill the ethanol and when you factor that in, again ethanol is higher emissions. Basically can’t find any good thing about it, other than it reduces demand for foreign oil.
@Myles Gray so I'm not sure about the grit part, never heard that before. Ethanol fuel burns more efficiently. Ever seen alcohol lit on fire, burns so clean that the flame can be invisible. Burns hotter and little to no smoke.... BUT it burns really fast. This is the reason for the US government pushing it. It does actually burn cleaner and more efficiently .... that said it burns faster so you don't get the same mileage you would from non. Ethanol fuel is better for the environment/ non Ethanol is better for your ride. Especially older cars. Ethanol does affect your fuel system in some capacity when you look long term. Fuel lines/ orings , carb/injectors. Etc. Where as normal gas doesn't at all. Even when being stored. Another plus for NON. You NEVER want to store an Ethanol blend for a prolonged amount of time. It wreaks havoc on rubber and metal components, gums up , breaks down and loses its ability to combust. Many arguments to be made on the topic. I personally don't mind paying 10 bucks more a tank to get a non Ethanol. I feel like it's worth it, I can care less about being "green"🫠AND I get around 60 miles more to a tank !
@@mylesgray3470 also I'm not talking about the production aspect. That's far beyond my scope of knowledge. I'm speaking on a consumer level
I wish I could afford to run non-ethanol in my 2019 Nissan Frontier, but it's just so much more expensive. I can run E85 in it, but E85 mileage is 20-25% less than regular gasoline.
Where I am at in Texas here has been substantially less than advertised amounts of ethanol on e90 gasoline for about a year. it's now down to less than one and a half percent hydrophilic, that's probably mostly detergent addidives I figure.
Dude!!! Excellent video!!! Lol I’m sitting at the gas station wondering exactly this and I find your video and you hit the nail on the head. Excellent real world demonstration 😎 thanks man! Great content!
I’m currently looking at $4.09 for Ethanol Free gas, and $3.34 for regular.
According to what you are saying, for me it may come out to about .50 cents more total cost per gallon when factoring in the improved economy. I’m curious if I figured right 🤔
I would like to get some Ethanol free just to give my car a healthy drink 😋
Knowing to look for that .23 cents difference in the future is GOLD info!!! Again thanks man.
Thanks for the comment! I am glad it helped!
Thank you!
It would be interesting to see if you ran your personal vehicle with ethanol vs non ethanol but prior to doing the test having run fuel system cleaners through it to make sure the engine was burning the fuels as efficiently as possibly and see if that made any difference. Very good video!
Thanks!
you have to think of the long term, if you use Non-Ethanol Gas in your car yes it cost more, BUT, you save in the long run because Ethanol fuel creates problems in your car.
It causes gaskets and O-rings to wear out quicker, also All Around better for your Engine, not to Mention your Fuel pump, Fuel Pumps wear out faster with Ethanol fuel.
This is a fact..
Not To mention you get more power our of your car, so if your using a sports car why use Ethanol Fuel it will just perform less than if you use Non-Ethanol fuel.
And as i stated some older people who don't use their car often and only fill their tank maybe once ever 3 to 4 weeks because they only go out to go food shopping or once in a while to the store, than that Ethanol Fuel is sitting in that tank and decaying and Jelling, And some times the car won't start because it's all gummed up..
So lets say you have winters and you have a classic car that you only use in the summer time and than it sits from November to March that is 5 months your car is sitting and the gas is going bad and Jelling up your car, you are much better of to use Non-Ethanol Fuel because the gas will be still in good shape even if it sits a year..
Non ethanol gets way more mileage to the tank! I did a test with a GMC Arcadia 2018! I took it to Nashville Tennessee from Front Royal Virginia and made it without fueling up the whole trip down! And made it on a single tank! But it took me 3 tank fills to get back to Front Royal on regular gas E10!
3 full tanks to get back using E-10.......I'm calling cap
@@joshuabower1326 Do you have a GMC Arcadia? have you done the test yourself before you say cap? you might want to do-it-yourself! In fact I actually did a trip to California And back!! my method of gas To get down there to LA was only 4 tank full of Me running 1 time of ethanol free gas! And 3 times of shell premium and I did a road trip from Front Royal Virginia all the way to Los Angeles California! And I had a nissan altima as a rental car! The whole thing about me and cars is I know what to use when taking road trips! I show people the benefits of the type of tricks I use to get way more gas mileage than usual! Also regular gas gets worse mileage than premium gas when it comes to regular car! Regular gas make sure engine runs sluggish after 10,000 miles But premium gas keeps your engine nice and clean even though people say it's a waste of money! it's not really a waste! But a lot of people are not smart enough To understand the real truth!
2016 GMC Sierra reg cab long bed. I switched to E90 here in central Texas from the normal ethanol blend 87 and IMMEDIATELY saw my mpg go up day 1. It's .50 more per gallon but I'm getting almost 650 per tank vs 500 ish using the ethanol blend. I use it in my lawn tractor, weed eater and chain saw so why IN THE HELL wouldn't I use it in my daily....? #nobrainer Good video btw.
Thank you!
Also your engine will last longer using non-ethanol and if you store your vehicle with fuel in it. The regular gasoline won't degrade and gum up like the ethanol fuel
I can't stand ethanol blended gas! When I park my GT500 for the winter, I only use non ethanol gas. For all my yard machines, they only see non ethanol gas. Being made in the 90s, they weren't designed for E10. I lost a rototiller to E10. Ate the carburetor!
Also, not sure if you were buying the same octane in your test here. Nissans come with knock sensors and add more timing if you buy higher octane fuel. I see a solid 3mpg per gallon on my Altima when I use 93 vs 89.
Our 2018 dodge Durango with the six cylinder… Much better mileage with ethanol free. So let me clarify, way better miles per gallon, BUT not better miles per dollar. Around here, ethanol free demands of pretty steep premium. Usually close to a dollar more per gallon. Might also have increased performance too, but no numbers to back that up.
All vehicles will be different for sure.
Yes but the Ethanol Fuel eats up Rubbers pieces, like fuel lines and destroys other parts including causing more internal wear and tear on engine and Non Ethanol saves you that replacement and maintenance and repair costs, So Non Ethanol for about a 1 penny difference is a no brainer at the prices you paid
Ethanol does cause other issues for sure, but most modern vehicles are built to withstand the effects of ethanol. Older vehicles on the other hand, you are 100% correct. 👍
I always run ethanol free gas. I get 26 avg mpg on a 3.5 Pathfinder. I wonder the long term affects on it. The Pathfinder is direct injected and I haven’t had a fuel system clean yet.
Ethanol free will have little effect on the fuel system deposits, but top tier fuel helps as well as a good quality oil with low evaporation!
Sometime running shell premium will clean up alot of deposits! And if you go to Walmart and get some Royal purple fuel system cleaner--> it comes in a purple can around 13 or 14 dollars it will help clean up the deposits on the pistons while running Ethanol free plus it will boost your mph a bit more!
So 10% better mileage over 10% ethanol, so that ethanol must be just filler, not providing any energy. I see similar results with my pickup with no load, but i see better than 20% better mileage with non ethanol when towing my travel trailer.
i filled my 2014 charger r/t with regular E87 and got 242 miles then i accidentally put non ethanol and got a range of 320+. Made my trip back home in 4 hours without stopping for gas.
I use Rec-90 ($3.77gal) which is Non-Ethanol and it’s paying off. My work van is hybrid and my 2000 Nav are performing well with increased mpg.
If you're going keep your vehicle for over 5 or 6 years I believe ethanol free is better for you engine
Ethanol free is definitely better for your vehicle, gets better MPG, but also costs more. Thanks for the comment!
Also , the gas Brand gas counts , shell , chevron , and other top tier gas is better . Try to always put the same brand , shell or chevron
Hard to really tell since some of your route was flat, some hilly. The best test would to be the same route testing both types of gasoline. It does make sense that non ethanol would give you better mpg. Still interesting test.
Yeah, it's definitely not a scientific but a good real world test. Thanks for the comment!
Vapor lock happens with Ethanol gas in summer months ...hard to start car.
My Geo Metro XFi averages 8 mpg better on non-ethanol.
That's impressive!
You are missing the whole point of using ethanol free fuel, if you have a boat you better be using pure gas in it or pay the Piper! Ethenol fuel is horrible on boats and especially outboards!! Cool Video
You get fewer miles with ethanol. Less energy density. Most know this.
Most people surprisingly don't know this!
My Buick Lucerne which is a 07 cxl with the 3.8 gets 32 miles to the gallon with non-ethanol but with 87 that has 10% ethanol it only gets 18 if I'm lucky
@@KonaBlueSVT that's a pity. My group must be more aware.
I generally see around 1.3x better mpg on ethanol free. The energy density difference is nowhere near that, so that isn't the whole answer.
All gas in the USA contains up to 10% ethanol, E85 is Ethanol fuel aka flex fuel , I did not see you use flex fuel in this video. And there should be about a dollar difference in price
There are stations that offer true, no ethanol gas in the US. There was no flex fuel used in this video, only e10&e15 blends.
I wonder how non ethanol would be in my 2013 VW GTI 🤔
I would bet that you would see some improvement in MPG, but it depends on the fuel cost in your area on if it would save you money. If you try it, let me know your results!
@@KonaBlueSVT I've been getting my gas at Shell. Which is around $3.49 a gallon. Non ethanol ranges from $4.20 to around $4.69
@@Countryguy5967 That would cost you more money, but would still be better for your car in the long run. (Less corrosion, etc)
@@KonaBlueSVT The issue is being able to afford it
@@Countryguy5967 I understand!
Long story not much shorter. Internal Combustion Engines perform work by burning fuel. The heat of combustion causes the pressure in the combustion chamber to rise. The pressure pushes the piston down. This is where all the power to do work comes from.
Ethanol has approximately one-half the heat content of gasoline. A 90-10 fuel will have approximately 95% of the heat content of ethanol free gasoline.
There is simply no way around it: 90:10 fuel requires approximately 5% additional fuel in each combustion cycle to release the same amount of heat as ethanol free gasoline.
Because of NOx emission requirements the auto manufacturers cannot design engines with a higher static compression ratio to take full advantage of the higher octane rating of ethanol. A higher compression ratio would cause a higher combustion temperature and therefore higher pressure and therefore more work from a given amount of fuel. But the EPA has the power to set emission levels and therefore by law engines cannot be as efficient as possible and thus a higher static compression ratio to take advantage of ethanol's octane rating will never be allowed.
I put non ethanol in my 2005 Toyota Corolla, I literally got 75 miles per gallon. It’s a secret no one wants you to know.
I put it in my nuclear sub and got 20,000 miles per gallon.
E 85 burns faster