i feel like the reverse would have given you very different minis. Starting with the 10 hours, you would have plenty of time to think about how to paint it, so the 1 hour would be faster, and the 10 minutes would get you more done.
This is EXACTLY the type of content I'm looking for at this stage in my painting. The difference between 10 min and an hour is stark, and while the 10hr is better than the 1hr, I think the delta is smaller. Now that you have more information and practice, I'd love to see what the revisited 10min and 1hr look like. Additionally, I learned a lot more from the 10min section than I expected to. Leveraging the black and focusing on the front were good insights.
^ this, there is a clear difference between the 10 hour and one hour - but for most folks, maybe not enough to commit the extra time. I suspect that - now knowing what has been learned that Scott could duplicate the 10 hour in less time. And another vote for the 'work back down the ladder' follow-up video
Well, IMHO, unless you're a painter looking at these minis display case style, the differences are actually negligible - including the 10min one if it wasn't darker, something easily rectified with a brighter base coat. And at 3-5 ft distant, such as on the gaming table, I very much doubt that anyone but professional display painters could really see a difference. Once past the tabletop standard, even small increments of improved visuals such as more defined details, cost exponentially more time, and I'd argue that many players of games actually go too far without getting the stuff out there on the table to play. Just look at the Golden Demon etc. where they work a full year on one mini. Totally fine if that's what you enjoy, but for players of the respective games, it's actually often more of a hindrance then a benefit, IMHO. There are many other aspects, as mentioned in the video, of the impression the model makes on the table, such as artistic vision (colour scheme and conveyed meaning in that scheme) and how the army looks en masse.
I'd weigh in saying that the 10min one if given more refinement and planing would actually look better than the 1 hr one for me, not a fan of cartoony look and the 10 min one has that timeless messy artstyle look that most of warhammer art is like. The 10 hour one is a totally different result since it resembles more of a museum, realistic type painting. So for me the worst one here is the 1 hr paintjob
IMHO....Miniac is the most enjoyable miniatures painter to watch. All around. He relays information in a easy to digest way. He isn't smug like certain mini painters. I enjoy the way he edits and shoots his videos. He doesn't do this fake "oh I'm trash at painting" while busting out masterpieces while he also isn't stroking his own ego. He is level headed and seems like a great guy, you know what I mean? Like someone you would want to do a painting session with. Plain and simple he seems honest and good at what he does ...... painting, making videos and teaching us how to paint. He has made me a much better painter and I have fun while he is showing me new stuff.
You can't buy time or get back time wasted, so I am always on the side of efficiency. Quite frankly, I'd be happy with somewhere in between the 10 minute to 1 hour range. You have given me new ideas on efficiency using the method for 1 hour model. Great channel! I like your post production processing and editing. Fantastic job!
Fixed that new board game's rules: 1. Do eat double-stuffed Oreos every night. 2. Never go to bed, it's for quitters. 3. Outside is overrated, unless you are doing a light test for a video. 4. Human interaction is good as long as it's with Ninjon doing a podcast for us to listen too.
showed my friend a screen shot and could not guess what one was what and liked the 10mins one more as it was more grim dark, shows how a nice quick paint job can be more than good enough and going further is normally just for you.
I loved the zoom out shot showing how the 10 min model looked decent from a distance. I think there's a ton of potential for a video empirically testing which painting decisions give the most bang for the buck when viewed at tabletop distances and angles
That’s what I keep telling myself for paint jobs that don’t quite work out under close inspection. If it looks good from about a foot away and you can tell what it’s supposed to be, then that’s the best result.
I usually paint when my baby takes a nap during the weekend. It's usually an hour or hour and a half so I used to be stressed that I will not finish what I started and will need to wait for the next weekend or even more. But now I can try this attitude, just know that you have one hour to finish the all thing and when it's over it's over and you move on to the next project. Awesome.
Such a cool concept. It might be interesting to start with the 10-hour and 1-hour paint job so you can bring what you learn there to the speed paint. I bet it would make the 10-minute one more finished, but I guess it’s more satisfying to finish with the most polished version.
I'd be happy to see any of them on the table top. No matter your skill level, painting your mini is a demonstration of your live of the hobby, and ever painter and model starts at square one. Great video!
Funnily enough, I recently I’ve been experimenting in my process with the same exercise, but consecutively and on the same model. Like « stage » painting. It eventually related to the sketch&refine strategy, but what I noticed is that I got the same lessons learned out of it. Now I used this all the time; 10min to sketch and utimately « discover » the sculpt, 1h to « experiment » with the volumes, 10h to « own » the volumes. Well, when painting 10h, you obviously paint 10min and 1h … but focusing on having a fully painted model at each stage is really different. I encourage you all to try it out, expecially if it’s a collector model you don’t have 3 times the same sculpt … :-) Also, Thanks for these videos Scott … very interesting experiments
Also, I’m not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but I’m starting to like the “jump right in” video style over the introduction. I was initially missing the synth and the whip of a brush through water, which is now permanently seared into my brain, but I think I’m happy with this now. Thanks, Scott!!
Man, I’m so encouraged to know that you choose colours on the fly. I struggle with choosing colours so much, so it’s good to see that you changed even from mini to mini. Love the channel my dude.
Great video, thank you. Part of what you experienced was the ‘discovery’ of the sculpt itself, like what layer of fabric gets painted what colour. I bet if you now, after paining the 10 hour version, you went back and painted a 1 hour version it would be very nearly the same.
Great video showing the quality you can get with the different amount of time spent, but also some high level ideas like keep the bright colors for the top half of the mini. Very enjoyable video as always.
I’d love to see this in reverse order or even in a machete order start with the ten min to get a grip on a color scheme, go to the 10 hour and really dig into what you want and then do the 1 hour production paint job with all that info.
Subscribed. The third model had a more clear grounding in elements of the culture, what colors are important to them when they are at home versus when they are out and about, likewise what plants they have available for crafting and what animals for leather sources. The third one really gives off a "We do not sow" vibe, especially with the more rough and tumble near sail-cloth consistency of their cloak and tunic. On a salt and windswept isle only hardier plants are growing and you don't have the benefit of a wider range of textiles, so having smoother opulent textures would be a mark of something stolen.
I'd really enjoy watching the same video with the process inverted: starting with the 10hr and progressing to the 10 minute. Be neat to see the differences and similarities.
I actually really liked the first mini more than the second. It was a scaled down color scheme with a lot more blacks, so it had a dark and more menacing look to me. less royal banquet, and more battlefield. I think if it had been a mix of 1 and 3 it would have been the best one. (Finish up the belts and boots so to speak) and add the textures to the beard and cloak. either way lovely job! thanks for being inspiring to us new to painting!
Question: why is zenithal usually done with black and white, vs a more natural undercoat palette (e.g. panes grey or dark brown with an ivory/pale yellow top spray?)
Dark brown/ivory will change the color of your coats, and grey will still work like white/black, but a bit more neutral. I guess it would look more crisp if you adjusted your coats to be a certain color after using an ivory/dark brown highlight, but that'd probably be difficult to pull off, and would require testing. At least that's what I think
Those zenithals work well depending on the subject, but it essentially boils down to contrast and versatility. Pure black and pure white allow the greatest level of value contrast, and ideally are completely neutral as to not influence following tones. Unfortunately 'pure' black pigment doesn't really exist, it's mostly very dark blue, which can desaturate warmer colours (e.g. yellow) applied overtop, so a brown zenithal works better. If you specifically did want a tonal shift/base colour to influence the entire model, different coloured zenithals work well then too.
I just got into mini painting, and this was a really fascinating video to watch! I definitely feel like I learned a lot about time management with different areas, and helped me realize I've been a little too all over when I've been painting
As a person spending 4-12 hours per human sized model for board games and my warhammer armies this felt liberating, sure I can get great result in this time period, but I can paint more good minis if I cut some steps. This sounds obvious but seeing 1 and 10 hour paintjobs side by side really drove the point home for me - thanks Scott!
I think there is a lot of merit in exploring time allotments, especially if you are a serious wargamer trying to put together an army. Players usually want their unique or hero units to have more presentation and detail to them, where as blobs of troops almost work together to create a single group piece. This video offers great reference points across the scale. I am super curious to see how doing the timed projects in reverse go.
I am loving these more stream of conscience narrated videos. It is a great insight into the process and how you adjust on the fly as you try different colors or techniques.
LOVED THIS VIDEO!! I hope to see another one. Also, Scott, you just blew my mind about glazing. It finally clicked when you were painting the leg of the third model. Not sure why it had not clicked yet, but seeing it on the paint leg triggered something in my brain. Thank you very much!
The 10 minute mini still looks better than many paint jobs I have seen. It's tabletop ready (meaning 3 Colors are used) and ready to play on a tournament. Thats more effort than many players put into their minis.
Sitting on my mantle piece is a Gondorian lancer that I painted in the competition. The figure was primed with black and the rules were, one brush, ten minutes and random colours. Each colour was selected blind from a box and only one at a time. My own rule was, any colour that came out of the box was used, and occasionally I did not layer on a full colour but picked out folds to use the primer as a shade. All in all I picked out six paints and a chestnut ink. I was hugely satisfied with the results. Just saying, 10 minute time frames can make you re-evaluate your painting priorities.
your vid was the first one I watched when I first went into airbrushing. I need to get myself one of those precise brushes so I can really get in there and do some detail now. Very interesting to watch the different approaches based on time! subbed
You are just unbelievable. Your skill, your creativity... But more importantly, your deliverance of the overall video is just on another level. Well done my man. 👌
This is reassuring to me, as the quality I'm happy with for myself currently sits at the 3 hour mark consistently. My goal is to slim that down to a consistent 2 hours. I think if I've learned one thing, I need to start from a black basecoat, that'll remove the pressure to hit every crevice.
Yes descend that! Can't wait to see the 10 min. Trial again now that you have a better understanding of what paint you'll use and what actually matters.
I don't even paint minis or have much intention to do so. I love racing, science destruction, and RC drifting. I don't know why this is so interesting to me... maybe it's just your content. Good job 👍🏼
Great stuff. Always intersting to see other viewpoints on amount of effort put in versus return. For the majority of us plebs, we live in a world of tabletop to tabletop+ painting as opposed to what it takes for competition pieces and its nice to see other's effort in this format.
This was suuuper useful, seeing the three different times together really helps emphasize what kinds of details you can focus on when you have different speed priorities.
I love what you did with all of the figures! Even the 10 minutes one, looks nice, not perfect but nice. Although i love all the details that you put in the third one, its the second one that stand the most for me. Great work, and keep doing this amazing content!
Great idea for the video!!! Love the 10-minute effect too! It is liberating to know that when it's over it's over, so you take advantage of what you got and that's it.
There is something to be said for less time used on a miniature, especially when it is for a wargame. Honestly, the one hour per miniature is a more realistic time for someone who just needs a good looking army. I remember marveling over how my kids could paint a miniature so fast and how well it looked for the time. They didn't worry too much about details but got what was needed done.
I would be thrilled with the 1 hour results. Those look like the upper level of my own skill--though I wouldn't be able to get there in just an hour! I do wonder how doing this in reverse changes the result, starting with all the time in the world to make decisions and get incredible detail before having to drop features with the lower time frames. That said, this was definitely the right approach. Letting the quicker rounds help you vet ideas before that spectacular final mini undoubtedly helped here.
This was a great experiment! Thanks for sharing. Not surprised at the 10 minute outcome, but very cool to see what you could learn from both the 10 minute and 1 hr jobs to apply to future work. I'd be pretty happy with the 1 hr version and can't imagine spending 10 hours on a single mini.
I'm glad you brought up the idea of painting models in the reverse order because i was wondering the same i. e. what would the result look like on the ten minute paint job if you had done it last.
I know I'm late for this but the 1 hour paint job is fantastic. Objectively the 10 hour one is better but the quality of the outcome from the 1 hour job is fantastic and the 10 hour job is absolutely not 10x better. If I could do a repeatable 1 hour job like the one you've done I'd be super happy with my abilities...and all my models would be painted haha. Thanks for the video!
This is super cool man. Def interested in a descent version of this video idea. I’m generally a tabletop/speed paint guy so finding any ways or ideas to increase quality without sacrificing speed is interesting to me. 🤘
Wow, you went a completely different route to what I expected for a 10 minute model. I would have gone zenithal highlight then contrast paints with a large brush for a base layer (and hopefully wash effect) to get the variation in colour then do what detail or highlights I could in the remaining time, with a focus on head and weapons. An hour is a long time for an individual model for me so some level of nmm is definitely on the cards. I have never tried 10 hours for one model before unless you include doing a conversion or larger model types such as tanks or giants/monstrous creatures. Great video!
Head, shoulders, knees and toes, knees and toes - kept getting that stuck in my head lol would love to see more 1 hour paint jobs. Its gotta feel nice having a preset end point based on time instead of quality
Definitely keen to see you go back down lengths of time now that you've perfected the model, mainly the 10 min one since you know what your want to achieve
I think they all look great in their own way. Even the 10-minute job. It reminds me of the artwork from Zelda: Majora's Mask. Colors, with solid black shadow areas.
Doing this in the reverse order is basically my go to method. I'd love to the see the video where you go in descending time increments, and maybe mix in some batch painting as you get to the lower steps. I feel it's a great tool to have in the arsenal and spending the time with a scheme at a higher quality level before shortcutting and applying it to save time is some big brain catharsis for piles of shame.
I like #2 the best for my army to be honest because at 5 feet it will be more visible because the colors are brighter. The #3 miniature however I think is AWESOME!
I was thinking about the "descending the ladder" thing... you had plenty planning time for the last iteration, it would be interesting to see you start with the heavily planned mini and than simplifying the process to fit the time box... my hypothesis is that you will get more consistency across the minis because you will start the 10 minute work with a better grasp on the colour scheme
This is a gorgeous scheme. If you're looking for ideas, I'd really appreciate a vid that is explicitly about creating a color scheme, or making a scheme work. Like, balancing the different hues and stuff
We did exactly this exercise in my life drawing class at uni. I think we started with ten mins, then 1 min and then 10 seconds and then went back up again. It might have been different times but it was really interesting to see how your priorities changed depending on the time limit and how much you’d improved by the time you got back to the start.
i like the first one because it looks stylized using the black as shading giving a more cartoon/fantasy/comic look to the model. the back needed work the second is what i expect an average model to look like the third looked very professional (it was worked on for 10 hours so duh)
I usually spend a lot of time painting a captain or hero first and use what I learn from that to help me when I speed up painting the rest of the army.
Hi, It would be more interesting now to see if you could revere the the order of your paint jobs. It would be great to see if/how the second model would improve. Even the 10min paint job could get a different flavour as you would already had different colour schemes and shortcuts in your head. Grate video btw!
Consider instead of 1 mini with ten minutes, 6 minis in one hours. That gives you time to batch paint, allow a bit of drying, and the chance to work multiple layers at a time. You still feel a bit rushed, but you can do a bit of the airbrushing, and apply other techniques since youre making up extra time or losing it as you go from mini to mini. Would definitly be cool to see!
As a gaming piece i like the 10min and 1 hour piece better, maybe a 25 min miniature would be the sweet spot. The abrupt highlights on those make them pop a bit more and they stand out more at a distance. The 10 hour job albeit a better paint job(of course) lends itself to be gazed upon up close rather than from 3 -5 feet away. Great Vid, keep those brushes moist and your undies dry.
great video as always Scott! Coming to terms with what passes as "good" has been a massive boon to my hobby and in the past year I've painted more in the past 8 months than I had in the 4 years prior which is really blowing my mind now that I think about it!
your videos are of so much higher quality than they used to, it feels like a little event when they are released. Hope you and your family are doing good through covid. :]
I like the comic-ish vibe of the 10 minute paintjob best. If you had continued in the same style and finished the model, I'm sure it would have been a nice result. Also, one can always do touch up work later down the line.
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When your 10 minute model is better than my 10 hour .... pain
Pain Mor minis!:D
“Looks like trash” that one hurt kinda
I know that feeling bro
I feel your pain...
Truth
i feel like the reverse would have given you very different minis.
Starting with the 10 hours, you would have plenty of time to think about how to paint it, so the 1 hour would be faster, and the 10 minutes would get you more done.
I agree!
Was also going to state this
Yeah I rushed to the comment section to say the same thing.
Agree. Would love to see you do the 1 hour and then 10 minutes ones again.
Well… there’s a video idea to cover next year. 10 hour 1 hour 10 minute. You know we’ll all watch it. Great job!
10 hours and you didn't paint the base rim? ;-) JK these all look great!
This is EXACTLY the type of content I'm looking for at this stage in my painting. The difference between 10 min and an hour is stark, and while the 10hr is better than the 1hr, I think the delta is smaller. Now that you have more information and practice, I'd love to see what the revisited 10min and 1hr look like.
Additionally, I learned a lot more from the 10min section than I expected to. Leveraging the black and focusing on the front were good insights.
^ this, there is a clear difference between the 10 hour and one hour - but for most folks, maybe not enough to commit the extra time. I suspect that - now knowing what has been learned that Scott could duplicate the 10 hour in less time. And another vote for the 'work back down the ladder' follow-up video
Well, IMHO, unless you're a painter looking at these minis display case style, the differences are actually negligible - including the 10min one if it wasn't darker, something easily rectified with a brighter base coat. And at 3-5 ft distant, such as on the gaming table, I very much doubt that anyone but professional display painters could really see a difference. Once past the tabletop standard, even small increments of improved visuals such as more defined details, cost exponentially more time, and I'd argue that many players of games actually go too far without getting the stuff out there on the table to play. Just look at the Golden Demon etc. where they work a full year on one mini. Totally fine if that's what you enjoy, but for players of the respective games, it's actually often more of a hindrance then a benefit, IMHO. There are many other aspects, as mentioned in the video, of the impression the model makes on the table, such as artistic vision (colour scheme and conveyed meaning in that scheme) and how the army looks en masse.
I'd weigh in saying that the 10min one if given more refinement and planing would actually look better than the 1 hr one for me, not a fan of cartoony look and the 10 min one has that timeless messy artstyle look that most of warhammer art is like.
The 10 hour one is a totally different result since it resembles more of a museum, realistic type painting.
So for me the worst one here is the 1 hr paintjob
From the thumbnail I thought the first was the best. Still watching the video though.
So pumped for the new expansion of Spending Your Time in the right Places!!!!!!!!!
Me too, LOL
i think we just lost the game
It was such a good game Jon stole the contents on the last Tarped under plurstic.
That was his note, that was in the box, trolling Scott.
Ngl, "no Double-Stuff Oreos" is a deal breaker for me.
IMHO....Miniac is the most enjoyable miniatures painter to watch. All around. He relays information in a easy to digest way. He isn't smug like certain mini painters. I enjoy the way he edits and shoots his videos. He doesn't do this fake "oh I'm trash at painting" while busting out masterpieces while he also isn't stroking his own ego. He is level headed and seems like a great guy, you know what I mean? Like someone you would want to do a painting session with. Plain and simple he seems honest and good at what he does ...... painting, making videos and teaching us how to paint. He has made me a much better painter and I have fun while he is showing me new stuff.
The juxtaposition of Scott's current style of calming videos, mixed with his metal AF outro will never stop being amusing to me.
You can't buy time or get back time wasted, so I am always on the side of efficiency. Quite frankly, I'd be happy with somewhere in between the 10 minute to 1 hour range. You have given me new ideas on efficiency using the method for 1 hour model. Great channel! I like your post production processing and editing. Fantastic job!
Fixed that new board game's rules:
1. Do eat double-stuffed Oreos every night.
2. Never go to bed, it's for quitters.
3. Outside is overrated, unless you are doing a light test for a video.
4. Human interaction is good as long as it's with Ninjon doing a podcast for us to listen too.
showed my friend a screen shot and could not guess what one was what and liked the 10mins one more as it was more grim dark, shows how a nice quick paint job can be more than good enough and going further is normally just for you.
That was cool to see the differences between each attempt, & I'm looking forward to painting some minis soon
I loved the zoom out shot showing how the 10 min model looked decent from a distance. I think there's a ton of potential for a video empirically testing which painting decisions give the most bang for the buck when viewed at tabletop distances and angles
That’s what I keep telling myself for paint jobs that don’t quite work out under close inspection. If it looks good from about a foot away and you can tell what it’s supposed to be, then that’s the best result.
I usually paint when my baby takes a nap during the weekend. It's usually an hour or hour and a half so I used to be stressed that I will not finish what I started and will need to wait for the next weekend or even more. But now I can try this attitude, just know that you have one hour to finish the all thing and when it's over it's over and you move on to the next project. Awesome.
Honestly I feel like the 10 minute paint job is most accurate to what an adventurer would look like during travels.
Yeah, I like the weathered look
Such a cool concept. It might be interesting to start with the 10-hour and 1-hour paint job so you can bring what you learn there to the speed paint. I bet it would make the 10-minute one more finished, but I guess it’s more satisfying to finish with the most polished version.
I'd be happy to see any of them on the table top. No matter your skill level, painting your mini is a demonstration of your live of the hobby, and ever painter and model starts at square one. Great video!
Funnily enough, I recently I’ve been experimenting in my process with the same exercise, but consecutively and on the same model. Like « stage » painting.
It eventually related to the sketch&refine strategy, but what I noticed is that I got the same lessons learned out of it. Now I used this all the time; 10min to sketch and utimately « discover » the sculpt, 1h to « experiment » with the volumes, 10h to « own » the volumes.
Well, when painting 10h, you obviously paint 10min and 1h … but focusing on having a fully painted model at each stage is really different. I encourage you all to try it out, expecially if it’s a collector model you don’t have 3 times the same sculpt … :-)
Also, Thanks for these videos Scott … very interesting experiments
Also, I’m not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but I’m starting to like the “jump right in” video style over the introduction. I was initially missing the synth and the whip of a brush through water, which is now permanently seared into my brain, but I think I’m happy with this now.
Thanks, Scott!!
Love these models, where I can find them? :)
Man, I’m so encouraged to know that you choose colours on the fly. I struggle with choosing colours so much, so it’s good to see that you changed even from mini to mini. Love the channel my dude.
Great video, thank you. Part of what you experienced was the ‘discovery’ of the sculpt itself, like what layer of fabric gets painted what colour. I bet if you now, after paining the 10 hour version, you went back and painted a 1 hour version it would be very nearly the same.
Great video showing the quality you can get with the different amount of time spent, but also some high level ideas like keep the bright colors for the top half of the mini. Very enjoyable video as always.
I’d love to see this in reverse order or even in a machete order start with the ten min to get a grip on a color scheme, go to the 10 hour and really dig into what you want and then do the 1 hour production paint job with all that info.
I’d like to see the descend. It popped into my mind at the start of the video and I’m glad you teased it. Please do!
Subscribed. The third model had a more clear grounding in elements of the culture, what colors are important to them when they are at home versus when they are out and about, likewise what plants they have available for crafting and what animals for leather sources. The third one really gives off a "We do not sow" vibe, especially with the more rough and tumble near sail-cloth consistency of their cloak and tunic. On a salt and windswept isle only hardier plants are growing and you don't have the benefit of a wider range of textiles, so having smoother opulent textures would be a mark of something stolen.
Man I Hadn't watched you videos for a half year and I love the upgrade in production quality!
I'd really enjoy watching the same video with the process inverted: starting with the 10hr and progressing to the 10 minute. Be neat to see the differences and similarities.
Honestly I love just putting your videos on autoplay and just listen. You do such a fantastic job with these, always look forward to a new one.
What army models you used here? They look so different from games workshop
I actually really liked the first mini more than the second. It was a scaled down color scheme with a lot more blacks, so it had a dark and more menacing look to me. less royal banquet, and more battlefield. I think if it had been a mix of 1 and 3 it would have been the best one. (Finish up the belts and boots so to speak) and add the textures to the beard and cloak.
either way lovely job! thanks for being inspiring to us new to painting!
Question: why is zenithal usually done with black and white, vs a more natural undercoat palette (e.g. panes grey or dark brown with an ivory/pale yellow top spray?)
Dark brown/ivory will change the color of your coats, and grey will still work like white/black, but a bit more neutral. I guess it would look more crisp if you adjusted your coats to be a certain color after using an ivory/dark brown highlight, but that'd probably be difficult to pull off, and would require testing.
At least that's what I think
Those zenithals work well depending on the subject, but it essentially boils down to contrast and versatility. Pure black and pure white allow the greatest level of value contrast, and ideally are completely neutral as to not influence following tones.
Unfortunately 'pure' black pigment doesn't really exist, it's mostly very dark blue, which can desaturate warmer colours (e.g. yellow) applied overtop, so a brown zenithal works better. If you specifically did want a tonal shift/base colour to influence the entire model, different coloured zenithals work well then too.
I just got into mini painting, and this was a really fascinating video to watch! I definitely feel like I learned a lot about time management with different areas, and helped me realize I've been a little too all over when I've been painting
I do not have the dexterity or even the patience for this. It takes a special person. Good job!
where are these models from they look awsome!
As a person spending 4-12 hours per human sized model for board games and my warhammer armies this felt liberating, sure I can get great result in this time period, but I can paint more good minis if I cut some steps. This sounds obvious but seeing 1 and 10 hour paintjobs side by side really drove the point home for me - thanks Scott!
100% want more of this. It’s great to see the variation between models due to time.
What model is this!!!! Love it. Feeling it for Mordheim
Nice work, I really like your painting style. The last fig looks great - your color theme is good and I liked the texture on the cloak.
Don’t know if it’s the color choice or the rawness created by the fact that is not finished, but maaan I loved the 10 min piece!
I think there is a lot of merit in exploring time allotments, especially if you are a serious wargamer trying to put together an army. Players usually want their unique or hero units to have more presentation and detail to them, where as blobs of troops almost work together to create a single group piece. This video offers great reference points across the scale. I am super curious to see how doing the timed projects in reverse go.
I am loving these more stream of conscience narrated videos. It is a great insight into the process and how you adjust on the fly as you try different colors or techniques.
LOVED THIS VIDEO!!
I hope to see another one.
Also, Scott, you just blew my mind about glazing. It finally clicked when you were painting the leg of the third model. Not sure why it had not clicked yet, but seeing it on the paint leg triggered something in my brain. Thank you very much!
The 10 minute mini still looks better than many paint jobs I have seen. It's tabletop ready (meaning 3 Colors are used) and ready to play on a tournament. Thats more effort than many players put into their minis.
Sitting on my mantle piece is a Gondorian lancer that I painted in the competition. The figure was primed with black and the rules were, one brush, ten minutes and random colours. Each colour was selected blind from a box and only one at a time. My own rule was, any colour that came out of the box was used, and occasionally I did not layer on a full colour but picked out folds to use the primer as a shade. All in all I picked out six paints and a chestnut ink. I was hugely satisfied with the results. Just saying, 10 minute time frames can make you re-evaluate your painting priorities.
your vid was the first one I watched when I first went into airbrushing. I need to get myself one of those precise brushes so I can really get in there and do some detail now. Very interesting to watch the different approaches based on time! subbed
12:16 Oooh, nice focus transition from the back model to the front model. Was that done manually or on an automatic setting?
Manually, but added some stabilization
the 10minute painting looks good for a troop member, I like you pallet as well
You are just unbelievable. Your skill, your creativity... But more importantly, your deliverance of the overall video is just on another level. Well done my man. 👌
I like the 10 minute paint job. In general, i tend to like minimalistic art a lot and that seems to fit that description well.
This is reassuring to me, as the quality I'm happy with for myself currently sits at the 3 hour mark consistently. My goal is to slim that down to a consistent 2 hours. I think if I've learned one thing, I need to start from a black basecoat, that'll remove the pressure to hit every crevice.
What models are these? I really like them
haha you are so good. Nice to come back to the hobby after a few years and see you still at it! Great video, on point and funny. gg
Great video man! Would love to see another video like this. Thanks, happy painting!
Nice one! I follow you channel around for an year, when I started painting but never succeeded 10 minutes! And it looks good! Good video :))))
Yes descend that! Can't wait to see the 10 min. Trial again now that you have a better understanding of what paint you'll use and what actually matters.
I don't even paint minis or have much intention to do so. I love racing, science destruction, and RC drifting. I don't know why this is so interesting to me... maybe it's just your content. Good job 👍🏼
Great stuff. Always intersting to see other viewpoints on amount of effort put in versus return. For the majority of us plebs, we live in a world of tabletop to tabletop+ painting as opposed to what it takes for competition pieces and its nice to see other's effort in this format.
This was suuuper useful, seeing the three different times together really helps emphasize what kinds of details you can focus on when you have different speed priorities.
What i think is that you create great content. Keep it up you are always inspiring
I love what you did with all of the figures! Even the 10 minutes one, looks nice, not perfect but nice. Although i love all the details that you put in the third one, its the second one that stand the most for me. Great work, and keep doing this amazing content!
Great idea for the video!!! Love the 10-minute effect too! It is liberating to know that when it's over it's over, so you take advantage of what you got and that's it.
There is something to be said for less time used on a miniature, especially when it is for a wargame. Honestly, the one hour per miniature is a more realistic time for someone who just needs a good looking army. I remember marveling over how my kids could paint a miniature so fast and how well it looked for the time. They didn't worry too much about details but got what was needed done.
I would be thrilled with the 1 hour results. Those look like the upper level of my own skill--though I wouldn't be able to get there in just an hour! I do wonder how doing this in reverse changes the result, starting with all the time in the world to make decisions and get incredible detail before having to drop features with the lower time frames. That said, this was definitely the right approach. Letting the quicker rounds help you vet ideas before that spectacular final mini undoubtedly helped here.
This was a great experiment! Thanks for sharing. Not surprised at the 10 minute outcome, but very cool to see what you could learn from both the 10 minute and 1 hr jobs to apply to future work. I'd be pretty happy with the 1 hr version and can't imagine spending 10 hours on a single mini.
Love hearing your self analysis and learning process. Thank you
I'm glad you brought up the idea of painting models in the reverse order because i was wondering the same i. e. what would the result look like on the ten minute paint job if you had done it last.
Very cool vid. Love what you did with the armor on #3. Learned me a new trick!
I know I'm late for this but the 1 hour paint job is fantastic. Objectively the 10 hour one is better but the quality of the outcome from the 1 hour job is fantastic and the 10 hour job is absolutely not 10x better. If I could do a repeatable 1 hour job like the one you've done I'd be super happy with my abilities...and all my models would be painted haha.
Thanks for the video!
This is super cool man. Def interested in a descent version of this video idea. I’m generally a tabletop/speed paint guy so finding any ways or ideas to increase quality without sacrificing speed is interesting to me. 🤘
Wow, you went a completely different route to what I expected for a 10 minute model. I would have gone zenithal highlight then contrast paints with a large brush for a base layer (and hopefully wash effect) to get the variation in colour then do what detail or highlights I could in the remaining time, with a focus on head and weapons. An hour is a long time for an individual model for me so some level of nmm is definitely on the cards. I have never tried 10 hours for one model before unless you include doing a conversion or larger model types such as tanks or giants/monstrous creatures. Great video!
Head, shoulders, knees and toes, knees and toes - kept getting that stuck in my head lol would love to see more 1 hour paint jobs. Its gotta feel nice having a preset end point based on time instead of quality
Definitely keen to see you go back down lengths of time now that you've perfected the model, mainly the 10 min one since you know what your want to achieve
I think they all look great in their own way. Even the 10-minute job. It reminds me of the artwork from Zelda: Majora's Mask. Colors, with solid black shadow areas.
ASOIAF Greyjoys!! Woot love it
Doing this in the reverse order is basically my go to method. I'd love to the see the video where you go in descending time increments, and maybe mix in some batch painting as you get to the lower steps. I feel it's a great tool to have in the arsenal and spending the time with a scheme at a higher quality level before shortcutting and applying it to save time is some big brain catharsis for piles of shame.
I like #2 the best for my army to be honest because at 5 feet it will be more visible because the colors are brighter. The #3 miniature however I think is AWESOME!
Really enjoyed this experiment and applaud whet you did within each of the time constraints……very valuable lessons!
10 Min Model remains as the favorite honestly. For some reason prefer it to the other two. xD
I was thinking about the "descending the ladder" thing... you had plenty planning time for the last iteration, it would be interesting to see you start with the heavily planned mini and than simplifying the process to fit the time box... my hypothesis is that you will get more consistency across the minis because you will start the 10 minute work with a better grasp on the colour scheme
Wow, it really is crass to see how little better the 10 hour Variant looks form the 1 hour Variant.
This is a gorgeous scheme. If you're looking for ideas, I'd really appreciate a vid that is explicitly about creating a color scheme, or making a scheme work. Like, balancing the different hues and stuff
We did exactly this exercise in my life drawing class at uni. I think we started with ten mins, then 1 min and then 10 seconds and then went back up again. It might have been different times but it was really interesting to see how your priorities changed depending on the time limit and how much you’d improved by the time you got back to the start.
i like the first one because it looks stylized using the black as shading giving a more cartoon/fantasy/comic look to the model. the back needed work
the second is what i expect an average model to look like
the third looked very professional (it was worked on for 10 hours so duh)
Dude I hate how good your 10 min paint job is xD It's amazing
I love the idea of table ready quick paint jobs. Efficiency and speed. For me I honestly like the 10min best the time investment vs quality is dope
I usually spend a lot of time painting a captain or hero first and use what I learn from that to help me when I speed up painting the rest of the army.
Great job! Scotty boy! They all looked nice and would love to see them reversed. Your poster looks great on my wall btw :) thanks for making them!
Hi,
It would be more interesting now to see if you could revere the the order of your paint jobs.
It would be great to see if/how the second model would improve. Even the 10min paint job could get a different flavour as you would already had different colour schemes and shortcuts in your head.
Grate video btw!
Yeah, would love the descending video!!!
Consider instead of 1 mini with ten minutes, 6 minis in one hours. That gives you time to batch paint, allow a bit of drying, and the chance to work multiple layers at a time. You still feel a bit rushed, but you can do a bit of the airbrushing, and apply other techniques since youre making up extra time or losing it as you go from mini to mini. Would definitly be cool to see!
Good video my dude. Really enjoy when you paint more minis!
So stoked to see you painting song of ice and fire!
As a gaming piece i like the 10min and 1 hour piece better, maybe a 25 min miniature would be the sweet spot. The abrupt highlights on those make them pop a bit more and they stand out more at a distance. The 10 hour job albeit a better paint job(of course) lends itself to be gazed upon up close rather than from 3 -5 feet away. Great Vid, keep those brushes moist and your undies dry.
great video as always Scott! Coming to terms with what passes as "good" has been a massive boon to my hobby and in the past year I've painted more in the past 8 months than I had in the 4 years prior which is really blowing my mind now that I think about it!
your videos are of so much higher quality than they used to, it feels like a little event when they are released. Hope you and your family are doing good through covid. :]
The 1h and 10h comparison is one of the best examples of diminishing returns that I've seen.
Could you do a video on more complex art techniques, like the “viewing circle” because I couldn’t find any result on that
where are these minis from? they look cool.
I like the comic-ish vibe of the 10 minute paintjob best. If you had continued in the same style and finished the model, I'm sure it would have been a nice result.
Also, one can always do touch up work later down the line.