I like that, upon replaying, you realize that Sif is not trying to kill Atreus - she's trying to turn Thor against Odin but Thor takes it out on Atreus.
even with that though, the whole thing is planned manipulation by odin. HE summoned sif and the 2 valkyries, he engineered this encounter. He controls the ravens.
@Jaeger19Ultima oh they know! Remember? During Kratos and Thors fight, Kratos TOLD Thor that his sons were the ones talking all that crap. He didn’t care. He actually was more proud of them for it.
@@mcdotterson4103he didn’t summon them, he looks downright displeased when Sif shows up. His first question is what she’s doing there. That’s when she says she’s come to arrest Atreus. and here’s the thing / she’s not WRONG to do that. Even without Magni and Modi, if someone is running around killing gods, his son is a valuable hostage. And Odin’s pursuit of the mask is putting the Asir in danger.
@@animalblundetto9055 In the Original God of War Trilogy Kratos fights Poseidon in an awesome set piece but the best part is when he brutally beats Poseidon and the camera is from Poseidon’s point of view. Its quite brutal and im sure it ends with you beating him, gouging his eyes, and snapping his neck. Watch it on RUclips but I recommend you play it yourself it’s quite fun. They are saying if they had killed Atreus here Kratos would’ve done the same
I mean Odin did keep pushing Thor to stay drunk and to add insult to injury he literally called Modi and Magni worthless and lets Artreus sleep in their rooms like it's nothing.
its brilliant how all you praise the game narrative but i played this game 2 times and everytime i played it i felt like creators of the game lost the sauce in some parts of the story, overthought plot twists and plot lines etc
what males you think it isnt both atreis and odin, at what point does she say "no not the boy" all of you in here giving her more credit than she deserves is hilarious. She watched thor go for atreis and said nothing
“I did not give you raven privileges so you could help my daughter-in-law interrupt me when I’m working, this is an extremely delicate situation I’m managing here, do you have any idea how OH GOD THOR NO!”
Everything negative they say about Odin is completely true and still not descriptively enough, but he is right when telling off Sif. Kratos killed Heimdall, Atreus had nothing to do with it, Thrud is old enough to screw up on her own, and Thor relapsed. It’s just like he said.
@Deep Inside I think they hinted to Odin pushing Thor to relapse in the first scene with Odin and Thor. Remember while Odin was drinking the mead, he told Thor your no fun anymore. I did not get it my first play through, but now I assume that he meant that Thor will not drink anymore. Pushing Thor to drink to get closer to his father.
Yeah. If you are a sociopath who think the victim are solely to blame. I supposed Odin is "right". Arteus is still an accessory to the murder. And it was Odin who push Thor to relapsed and Thrud in danger mission.
I mean, looking at it both ways, Odin is both true and false about these three things, and more ofc. But here: Kratos did kill Heimdall, yes. But only because the latter wanted to kill Atreus. At the same time, it's because of Atreus' constant visits and leaving plus Heimdall's ability to read minds and people's true intentions/feelings that provoked him into thinking of offing him which lead to Kratos killing Heimdall in the first place. In a way, Atreus indirectly killed Heimdall without having a part at all in it beyond just existing. Thrud being at risk of herself because of Atreus is debatle but as Odin puts it, she's old enough to make and deal with her own mistakes. On the other hand, the one time this does happen was putting her with Atreues into one of the worst realms they could have been in which is Helheim. It was certainly risky and dangerous for sure when she saw Atreus free Garm, but Odin DID put her up to being there. Finally, Thor relapsing is a thing he did on his own but Odin certainly went at him enough to do it. Then again, it was still Thor's choice for giving in to drinking again. This one is about as 50/50 as the Thrud problem. Odin's surely the problem with at least 2/3 of these yet he isn't quite "wrong" either from a certain perspective. Doesn't make him any worse than he already is.
All of those things are true, AND Odin is also to blame for all of those things. Responsibility and blame rarely falls on only one person, because most problems are the result of multiple actions, not one alone.
If Atreus dies on Asgard there is no room in hell where they can hide... But i think the real destruction will happen if they made Atreus mad. Kratos is very patience and mature, but Atreus is not so. And indeed he has the potential to be very powerful.
He talks in a way to make his words personal to the person he’s speaking with. “Your husband” sounds more personal to Sif than “My son” or “Thor”. I don’t think this is an example of his lack of care for his son, maybe an example of his manipulative way of speaking.
@Nicholas J. Fury Nor does he give a monkey's arse about losing Heimdall. Who may or may not also be his son (it's never explicitly stated if this version is related to them or not).
Also in the final boss fight odin simply says "that ones on you" in reference to thors death by his own hand. He doesnt say "my son's death" or make any sort of statement throughout that entire fight that suggests he saw thor as anything more than a weapon to throw around
The expression on Sif's face after Odin dismisses her is legit one of the most terrifying expressions in God of War as a franchise. It isn't over the top, bombastic, or screaming emotion. That's "the limit has been reached" expression.
Thor stays loyal to Odin even after its clear he don't care about him basically murders one of his own sons but passes that grudge to Atreus and suddenly his life is all about his kids. The man is as easily manipulated by his wife as he is Odin hell I bet a loud wind could convince this guy to do its bidding.
It's so true tho. Dude is legit actually a hammer that other people swing to solve their problems. He's stuck between an over demanding wife and insane patriarch that expects 100% obedience. You can say sif is only making him loyal to his family, BUT she isn't advocating for protecting thrud, she advocating revenge for their sons (ironic considering they were shit parents) and attacking atreus would incur the wrath of Odin and Kratos. Poor Thor, mans never got to do what he wanted to do.
I just realized Odin's scream of fear when Thor went to kill Atreus was genuine, he couldn't have any idea Sindri gave Atreus an exit. This means either 1 of 2 things. 1. He actually likes Loki, and perhaps see's something in himself in him. This is a possibility as Loki is meant to be the god of Mischief, something Odin seems to make a lot of in GoW. 2. He is deathly afraid of what Kratos would become if Loki were to die.
That wasn't why he screamed. He screamed after he realized Atreus was going to exit. So he screamed because he would lose the mask. Odin might be afraid of Kratos,yes but he knows Kratos is in control for now. He's constantly taunting Kratos but even he doesn't have a full idea of what Kratos can become.
@@vegitoda4738 how could he know Atreus was going to exit though? Sindri gave Atreus the exit right before he left for Asgard, where his ravens, nor he could see.
I think he needs Atreus to look into the rift, either because a Jotunn has better odds of not being blinded, or because only Jotunns can use the mask. He is attuned to the Mask afterall. So he screamed because Thor was about to turn his one way ticket to mush. Also, Atreus is useful, so he wouldn't want to lose him. He looks at people as tools, keep that in mind. Atreus knows how to use Giant magic, unlike Thor, which is a great asset to Odin. Especially his ability to translate almost anything.
What makes it especially sad is when Thor says "Gotcha" and "Wasn't about to lose that mask" he doesn't sound _as_ aggressive as he normally does. It's almost like he's finally beginning to realize that Atreus isn't someone out to destroy his family or his home, he's just a kid who's had to make tough choices and sometimes made the wrong one. And then Odin shows up and completely ignores him, and he returns to his hateful mindset because Odin reinforces Thor's idea that Atreus is there to divide them. Then, when Sif tries to talk to Thor and show him what Odin is, Thor directs it at Atreus instead. Odin is such a poisonous figurehead that by just _showing up_ he fundamentally messed with the people around him and their responses.
1:16 oof, look how the two Valks backpedal as Odin approached. It's always subtle, but you can really get an idea of how horrible Odin is if you just watch him and how people act around him.
Odin really lives by the term the best lies are the truth, it reminds me of what Mamir said about Odin when we first encounter him too. "Even if he tells you the sky is blue, he's lying."
@@disgustingnerd7027 huh I could have sworn it was if he tells you the sky is blue. I may have misremembered it though so my bad I guess. My point still stands.
1:05 There's a very subtle detail in here that can be easily missed. Notice there's a slight Pause before Odin said "Started drinking on his own again", Odin is lying, and this is also a behavior that manipulators tend to do, they paused, did a quick thinking on how to picture the situation in their favor before laying out the lie. Recall in a previous scene where Thor was frustrated on Odin's decision to bring Atreus to Asgard and Odin ended the conversation with "Honestly I liked you better as a Drunk", which means Odin has a hand on Thor breaking down drinking again.
Not to mention in odins Introduction he put a drink down right in front of thor and then drank it right Infront of him saying "your no fun anymore" another part of his manipulation
@@KingSpades it's a sadly effective tech too, back when I first joined the workforce I worked at a local bank. My Senior is a very very fierce woman and she puts on this always angry always badmouthing persona on me while acting professionally on her coworkers. Naive as I was back then I ended up fearing her instead and frustrated inside. Suffice to say that wasn't a very pleasant experience. Thank God it only lasted about a year or so.
@@KingSpades it has, thank God it had gotten better for me now. Got a job that I enjoy and I also started hanging out with a girl ever since this year starts. Thanks for the prayers friend.👍
Sif: "We use to tell them stories by the fire" And then proceeding to beat the shit out of them the next day, what great couple activity you two have sif.
And how much of that is because of Odin being their grandfather? Also all Aesir are warmongering by their nature and culture. So it was probably like Spartan Society.
I love how Ingrid stops Thor pitting itself against mjolnir to later find out it’s Freyr godly weapon it’s backstory and then how Odin took it just to tie it up as a captive essentially and it makes sense why it immediately likes atreus all the small details
You missed earlier during the bar brawl. Ingrid and Mjolnir go at it at one point, zooming all over the place and crashing into each other. And at the end, when Atreus, Thor and Thrüd exit the bar, the two weapons exit in different fashion: Ingrid smoothly sails out and right back into her sheath, no worse for wear. Mjolnir, on the other hand, wobbles in the air for a bit, then crashes to the ground, implying that either it’s just as ‘drunk’ as its wielder, _or…_
My grandmother and grandfather are oddly similar to Odin, the mannerisms, the Voice, the Lies etc everything's similar, i found that a little disturbing for me 😅
I cant even blame Thor for his outrage, he is mad because he cannot disobey his father even tho all of it was his father's plan. Before knowing about Heimdall's death, Thor almost treated Atreus like his own son, catching him while he almost fell for the cliff, saying "gotcha" and "wasnt about to lose the mask" are those words from a father where they love someone but they have that little hint of wholesome denial. Thor is the true victim here, he is a destroyer because he does not know what to do nor can he just break it off, his death was harsh and he could have redeemed himself from there but seeing Odin as he was i expected him to do that
I believe the reason Odin abused Thor rather than just manipulating him like everyone else, is because he feared him. Thor is probably the only one that could win in a fight against Odin and Odin is deathly afraid of prophecy’s, including the one of the cycle of children killing their parents. So for Odin it wasn’t enough to keep Thor in line, he had to keep him submissive and a tool. And as long as a tool has a use, Odin will keep it even if it is a danger to everyone around
Oh please, almost nobody especially Thor cared about Heimdall and they only treat his death like that one employee that didn't come out from work that day.
@@frankwest5388 This makes sense. One thing that rang true about what Thor said was that he and Kratos are destroyers, specifically, gods whose divinities are tied to destruction. Everything about their godhood is that they can kill whatever they put their minds to, no matter how invincible or immortal it may seem. If Thor truly wanted Odin dead, he’d be dead, and there wouldn’t be anything anyone could do about it. Odin would’ve obviously known this, so he went well out of his way to keep Thor on his knees.
Thor truly did love his family. His sons, his daughter, and his wife. He just didn't really know how to truly be a father, because, well, look at *his* father.
Yeah, funny enough, she blames Atreus for all three things and all of those were the individual's choice at the end of the day. Heimdall wouldn't let up, Thrud made her own choices, and Thor started drinking on his own. However, it should mentioned that Odin had an influencing hand in the last one, likely to make Thor easier to control.
Sif doesnt know that. In fact, Kratos actively lied to Thor about Modis death, saying that "he died of the wounds you gave him". Even if they suspected that to be a lie, they'd just assume kratos killed him.
@@turbonerdo6838 Dude just check out the third encounter with Modi alone. Modi ran from the first encounter relatively unscathed. Second time, same thing. Third time, he straight up was almost dead and literally said that Thor beat him. Kratos was not lying at all.
I really really love Odin in this game. Obviously I hate him just as much as I love him. But he wasnt some all commanding presence at all, he actually behaved more like a creepy uncle/mob boss of the family. Richard Schiff is truly an amazing actor
Idk why I was in confusion of why the two valkyries pulled up on Kratos at the galactic place with Sutr and legit didn’t realize Odin went to the side to talk to them about that and the fact that he’s disguised as Tyr on their side, he always has tabs and locations on them for that to easily happen, nice touch looking back
The skeletons behind Hrist and Mist and Sif while she pleads her case for Loki to be taken away because of Heimdall's death and then the camera pans towards those swords behind Odin when he explains why Sif is out of line. Odin is fine with all the dead bodies so long as he learns what he needs to learn. He does not care.
If you think about it, it’s really Odin’s fault that Heimdall is dead cause he knew kratos was planning to kill him from his time as Tyr and even though he couldn’t blow his cover, he essentially sent heimdall to die by sending him to Vanaheim and as far as I know didn’t even tell Heimdall what was going on.
He either didnt fully believe Kratos's actual power. Or he didnt think Heimdall was stupid enough to pull up on Kratos without backup. I'll give Odin this, he was smart enough to use Thor to test the waters with Kratos first. And also so they could 2v1 him if things got too out of hand. Kratos is easily the best 1v1 combatant in the series. But against 2 gods of enough power he would likely lose. Depending on who they are. Everyone usually is too afraid to fight him and Kratos is generally smart enough to use other forces to seperate them. Odin so far has been the only God smart enough to realize 1v1'ing Kratos is a stupid plan given his reputation. Or they are all too proud. Doesnt matter
2:20 at this moment Thor's accusation is aimed right at Odin with where the camera is placed. But Thor can only blame Atreus. Interesting little detail
Thor is such a tragic character. In many ways he’s a mirror image of Kratos. Or rather a potential future of the old Kratos. Being a slave to an overbearing and all-powerful father and a slave to his rage and self-loathing.😢
So true. Kratos never wanted to fight Thor due to reminding of himself of serving the gods, but uses them for their own selfish ways. Also, it’s like Kratos seeing his younger self becoming more angry and vengeful, even bloodthirsty.
Hey, when Sif is tapping on Thor's chest... i don't know. That scene just illustrates so much about the effect a woman can have on a man in so many different areas for better or for worse. I just love the subtlety and the power of that moment. It's so powerful. Some real masculine and feminine energy coming into contact. To capture that in a video game is, I don't even know how to describe it. I just hope i wasn't the only one who felt that
Every time I see a new clip I catch a new detail. When Thor pulls Loki up he dusts off his back in a caring way cause he has kids of his own but he quickly says he didn’t want to lose the mask so it doesn’t look like he really cares. When Odin comes Thor immediately goes to him but Odin walks right past him to get the mask and Thor just takes it cause it’s his evil father. The contrast between Zeus and Odin behavior to other gods is cool.
Dang, what’s worse is that idk if Sif was trying to get Thor to go after Atreus or Odin. I like to think in an alternate timeline Thor got a redemption arc
I feel like the Aesir Gods did have sympathy and good relations with Loki up to this moment, even Sif. She never intended to hurt or kill Loki and it was just that Odin was becoming corrupt but you have to give it to Odin and he does say some actual facts I’d also like to add that Thor was kind of a Uncle/Brother to Loki and you can tell when Odin comes in Thor walks up like a prideful child just like Loki, they did form some relation up to the reckoning
it's amazing that Odin can deliver all the comeback for every accusation Sif is throwing first Heimdall killer, Thrud safety and Thor starts drinking again
Asgard just plays the blame game all day. "You endangered the daughter who I largely ignore." "You killed my murderous sons" "Im an alcoholic but it's your fault!" "Dad is mean because thats just the way he is" Lifestyles of the rich and famous out there
It's not fair to say which scene is the best in this game because it was great lore with even greater voice actors and just a phenomenal game all around
Maybe not the video to bring it up, but I find it interesting and cool how Kratos (a man known for how little he speaks) fathered Atreus/Loki (a character who heavily relies on words to get out of sticky situations and who enjoys talking to people).
This was the only time I actually agreed with Odin, Sif was basically blaming everything on Atreus when Thor did relapse on his own, kratos killed Heimdall, Thrud made her mistakes on her own terms, all reality it should be blamed on Odin, everything happened because of his own selfish gain
I believe thor relapsing was odin’s fault. The way odin disregards thor’s kids most likely drove thor into relapsing. I just dont understand how could thor beat up modi like that after seeing him in ragnarok. The only plausible solution is that the writers retconned thor’s personality, which is too bad because the way they build up thor in the last game was the perfect nemesis for kratos. Thor in this game is just a wimp. I wonder who they had to please to make all these changes.
Thor may be dimmer than normal Aesir, but he isnt an idiot. Like all this time he is going around with Atreus, he wasn't bothered by the fact that Atreus is a major in his sons' deaths. But suddenly, as soon as Sif told him that those things, he loses his cool and tries to kill him. Lol.
Its called misdirected anger. He couldn't face the realization that Sif was getting at, that Odin manipulated everyone and is his real enemy. So he turned on the boy instead.
I never realised the sword saved Atreus here. He was actually to late for the portal so Thor could strike him but the blade didn't let that happen. Sick one.
3:26 "Brother pleaaaaaaase" Oh my god I am literally like this whenever I tell my girlfriend I wanna go outside. "Babe pleaaaaaase it's all so tense back hoooome" :(
I like how when Thor is about to kill *BOY* Odin screams “NO!” Cause of old man with anger issues found out his *BOY* was dead they would only last a few more seconds before they both died
Both MCU and GOW didn't appreciate this woman and always gave a smaller role than they should have been! However, Sif must have been in a very important position!
@@ammonite0257 in fact, before the "marvel Thor movies" started, in the "marvel comics", Sif was the leading lady, Amora was the second female, and Jane was quite in the background! But the damn MCU has always worked in favor of the extremely useless b.... called Jane and has always put Sif in the background!
@@ramazancelik6061 bro I never would’ve guessed that from watching the films. The only things I know of sif in the mcu (or more accurately the only thing I remember) is that she is warrior. At least on God of war she has some dimension to her character.
I would love more Atreus/Loki dialogue With Odin and Thor some questions like: What happened to others Aesir and Vanir Gods and why they are not in Asgard or Vanahaim and if they exist and some of them are others children of Odin and Freya + Odin's Friends and Enemies And why are they missing and what happened to them like: Hermod,Fulla,Gefjunn,Saga,Hlin,Kvasir,Vidar,Uller,Hodr,Var,Vali,Forseti,Nanna,Bragi,Hoenir,Skadi,Ran Freya and Freyr's Mother,Aegir,Njord Freya and freyr's father,Idrunn/Iduna,Sigyn Loki's wife,Meili,Simara surtur's wife,Hoed a valkyrie etc.. among others gods that are missing.. The others questions would be interesting for odin: If asgard has a prison? What happened to Thor's mother since the original Norse Mythology the son killed his own mother And if Odin had others wives.. If Odin and Thor have pets as in Norse Mythology original Freya had several others animals,Thor her goats and Odin have a horse 8 paws who is one of Loki's children Where is Valhalla or Sessrumnir and is there a way to get there or did a god go there... Others questions: What is the true origin of how Odin lost his eye in Mimir's well or the portal If Baldur,Magni and Modi among others death Gods can come back to life and why haven't they come back yet? If Odin has a room Inside the hall like the others rooms and it would be a funny line for Atreus/Loki to say that he thought Asgard was different,much bigger and made of gold like Odin's palace Questions for Thor with his family trying to make happy him and if Thor met Atreus mother or what it was like for him to fight Against Kratos and what he thought of the fight A curiosity here: Thor in Norse Mythology has gloves and a utility belt that makes him much stronger. Heimdall being the son of 9 mothers like in the original Norse Mythology it would be nice for Odin to mention that And also Freya has 5 priestesses like Athena with her allies who prayed to her in Greek Mythology. Freya's Priestesses They are: Sjofn,Vjofn,Lofn,Syn and Snotra I missed those questions and dialogues for Odin that Atreus And also for Thor was going to make a shame it didn't happen,Too bad he didn't ask these questions 🥲😔 like and Bye!
At least Odin not having his horse is easy to answer: Atreus never does transform into mare in heat. And why Baldr has not resurrected is easy to answer as well: Hel says Baldr remains dead.
I like that, upon replaying, you realize that Sif is not trying to kill Atreus - she's trying to turn Thor against Odin but Thor takes it out on Atreus.
even with that though, the whole thing is planned manipulation by odin. HE summoned sif and the 2 valkyries, he engineered this encounter. He controls the ravens.
@Jaeger19Ultima oh they know! Remember? During Kratos and Thors fight, Kratos TOLD Thor that his sons were the ones talking all that crap. He didn’t care. He actually was more proud of them for it.
and she does nothing to stop him.
I found that pretty obvious what Sif was trying to do. I honestly expected his hammer to be pointed at Odin until the camera panned.
@@mcdotterson4103he didn’t summon them, he looks downright displeased when Sif shows up. His first question is what she’s doing there. That’s when she says she’s come to arrest Atreus.
and here’s the thing / she’s not WRONG to do that. Even without Magni and Modi, if someone is running around killing gods, his son is a valuable hostage. And Odin’s pursuit of the mask is putting the Asir in danger.
Thor nearly caught himself and his whole bloodline the Poseidon Special
LMFAOOOO IKR
Nahhh worse than poseidon possible
At least we can Thanks Sindri that didn't have to happen.
@@animalblundetto9055 In the Original God of War Trilogy Kratos fights Poseidon in an awesome set piece but the best part is when he brutally beats Poseidon and the camera is from Poseidon’s point of view. Its quite brutal and im sure it ends with you beating him, gouging his eyes, and snapping his neck. Watch it on RUclips but I recommend you play it yourself it’s quite fun. They are saying if they had killed Atreus here Kratos would’ve done the same
oof 😅😅😅😅😅
Man, Thor and the all nine realms really dodged a bullet by failing to kill Atreus.
The Nordic mithology will be "Olimpyed" If the boi dyes.
Thor was about to jumpstart Ragnarok.
@@fissilewhistle LMFAOOOOO
Odin probably would have killed Thor on the spot.
Thor would actually get the god of war he wanted so much
It’s brilliant how they make it seem like Sif is manipulating Thor against Atreus but the entire time her primary focus is against Odin.
I mean Odin did keep pushing Thor to stay drunk and to add insult to injury he literally called Modi and Magni worthless and lets Artreus sleep in their rooms like it's nothing.
its brilliant how all you praise the game narrative but i played this game 2 times and everytime i played it i felt like creators of the game lost the sauce in some parts of the story, overthought plot twists and plot lines etc
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2itExplain
She was pointing out what a selfish asshole Odin was because she wanted Thor to recognize what a selfish asshole Odin was. That isn't manipulation.
what males you think it isnt both atreis and odin, at what point does she say "no not the boy" all of you in here giving her more credit than she deserves is hilarious. She watched thor go for atreis and said nothing
I love how when Odin says "You two, a word." The Valkeries both look like they got called to the principle's office for being late to class
“I did not give you raven privileges so you could help my daughter-in-law interrupt me when I’m working, this is an extremely delicate situation I’m managing here, do you have any idea how OH GOD THOR NO!”
I just noticed he was telling them to go kill Kratos 😮
@@yaaaay6252 yah uh death sentence right there
Such a mob boss haha
I just noticed that the magic sword blocked Thor's attack.
Yeah it took me a couple watches to notice lol. Im pretty sure he would have died if Ingrid didn't
holy shit it did, good eye
It's in there for almost a full 2 seconds tbh. You can even see it slipping out of atreus' sheath on his back as he calls out the portal.
We love you Ingrid, best talking sword
the sword saved thor from having his entire pantheon butchered
Everything negative they say about Odin is completely true and still not descriptively enough, but he is right when telling off Sif. Kratos killed Heimdall, Atreus had nothing to do with it, Thrud is old enough to screw up on her own, and Thor relapsed. It’s just like he said.
Odin pushed Thor into relapsing
@Deep Inside I think they hinted to Odin pushing Thor to relapse in the first scene with Odin and Thor. Remember while Odin was drinking the mead, he told Thor your no fun anymore. I did not get it my first play through, but now I assume that he meant that Thor will not drink anymore. Pushing Thor to drink to get closer to his father.
Yeah. If you are a sociopath who think the victim are solely to blame. I supposed Odin is "right".
Arteus is still an accessory to the murder. And it was Odin who push Thor to relapsed and Thrud in danger mission.
I mean, looking at it both ways, Odin is both true and false about these three things, and more ofc. But here:
Kratos did kill Heimdall, yes. But only because the latter wanted to kill Atreus. At the same time, it's because of Atreus' constant visits and leaving plus Heimdall's ability to read minds and people's true intentions/feelings that provoked him into thinking of offing him which lead to Kratos killing Heimdall in the first place. In a way, Atreus indirectly killed Heimdall without having a part at all in it beyond just existing.
Thrud being at risk of herself because of Atreus is debatle but as Odin puts it, she's old enough to make and deal with her own mistakes. On the other hand, the one time this does happen was putting her with Atreues into one of the worst realms they could have been in which is Helheim. It was certainly risky and dangerous for sure when she saw Atreus free Garm, but Odin DID put her up to being there.
Finally, Thor relapsing is a thing he did on his own but Odin certainly went at him enough to do it. Then again, it was still Thor's choice for giving in to drinking again. This one is about as 50/50 as the Thrud problem.
Odin's surely the problem with at least 2/3 of these yet he isn't quite "wrong" either from a certain perspective. Doesn't make him any worse than he already is.
All of those things are true, AND Odin is also to blame for all of those things. Responsibility and blame rarely falls on only one person, because most problems are the result of multiple actions, not one alone.
that sword just saved an entire pantheon from complete and utter annihilation.
It saved the entirety of the 9 realms
I would have paid my two kidneys worth of money just to watch that annihilation 🥶🥶
@@dineshbh3837 I like atreus as a character. But man seeing Kratos go full god-slayer again would be a sight to see
Thanks, Ingrid.
If Atreus dies on Asgard there is no room in hell where they can hide...
But i think the real destruction will happen if they made Atreus mad.
Kratos is very patience and mature, but Atreus is not so. And indeed he has the potential to be very powerful.
Notice Odin said "your husband", and not "my son". Dude doesn't care about Thor at all. . .
He talks in a way to make his words personal to the person he’s speaking with. “Your husband” sounds more personal to Sif than “My son” or “Thor”.
I don’t think this is an example of his lack of care for his son, maybe an example of his manipulative way of speaking.
@@A_Random_Rat says the same thing about baldur. he doesn't call him his son only his tracker and closer
@Nicholas J. Fury Nor does he give a monkey's arse about losing Heimdall. Who may or may not also be his son (it's never explicitly stated if this version is related to them or not).
Typical father when comes to blaming father wil always say you son did this or your husband did this.
And if comes to proudful moment.
My son.
Also in the final boss fight odin simply says "that ones on you" in reference to thors death by his own hand. He doesnt say "my son's death" or make any sort of statement throughout that entire fight that suggests he saw thor as anything more than a weapon to throw around
Damn Atreus and Thor were just getting along
Couldn't be helped, Thor should've been mad at Odin instead he's still looking for Daddy's approval
I genuinely wanted to see thor and Atreus get along
The expression on Sif's face after Odin dismisses her is legit one of the most terrifying expressions in God of War as a franchise. It isn't over the top, bombastic, or screaming emotion. That's "the limit has been reached" expression.
The critical point has finaly been reached, if u know what i mean ;)))
It was a quiet, but terrifying, resolve of a mama bear being pushed too far.
0:39 when your friend brings their own friends you’ve never met before to your hangout
Relatable
Thank you, I needed that laugh. I did not however, need the ensuing broken ribs
1:11
10 seconds later
Thor almost made the biggest mistake of his life
Stfu Thor beat Kratos ass
He's dead anyway
Kratos: THOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
He almost made the *_last_* mistake of his life.
His vastly, vastly shortened life lol
Thor stays loyal to Odin even after its clear he don't care about him basically murders one of his own sons but passes that grudge to Atreus and suddenly his life is all about his kids. The man is as easily manipulated by his wife as he is Odin hell I bet a loud wind could convince this guy to do its bidding.
This is VIOLATION. a loud wind? BRUTAL
This comment destroyed Thor worse than Odin's spear ever could.
It's so true tho. Dude is legit actually a hammer that other people swing to solve their problems. He's stuck between an over demanding wife and insane patriarch that expects 100% obedience. You can say sif is only making him loyal to his family, BUT she isn't advocating for protecting thrud, she advocating revenge for their sons (ironic considering they were shit parents) and attacking atreus would incur the wrath of Odin and Kratos. Poor Thor, mans never got to do what he wanted to do.
@@derekrulez390527 lol guess he is Thor god of hammers in this one.
@@derekrulez390527 how is his wife overdemanding? She did want to protect Thrud but still wanted revenge for her sons
I just realized Odin's scream of fear when Thor went to kill Atreus was genuine, he couldn't have any idea Sindri gave Atreus an exit. This means either 1 of 2 things.
1. He actually likes Loki, and perhaps see's something in himself in him. This is a possibility as Loki is meant to be the god of Mischief, something Odin seems to make a lot of in GoW.
2. He is deathly afraid of what Kratos would become if Loki were to die.
That wasn't why he screamed. He screamed after he realized Atreus was going to exit. So he screamed because he would lose the mask. Odin might be afraid of Kratos,yes but he knows Kratos is in control for now. He's constantly taunting Kratos but even he doesn't have a full idea of what Kratos can become.
Odin only cares about Atreus cause only he can wear the mask
@@vegitoda4738 how could he know Atreus was going to exit though? Sindri gave Atreus the exit right before he left for Asgard, where his ravens, nor he could see.
He screamed because Thor was about to murder the one person alive who can translate the mask that would give him access to infinite knowledge.
I think he needs Atreus to look into the rift, either because a Jotunn has better odds of not being blinded, or because only Jotunns can use the mask. He is attuned to the Mask afterall. So he screamed because Thor was about to turn his one way ticket to mush. Also, Atreus is useful, so he wouldn't want to lose him. He looks at people as tools, keep that in mind. Atreus knows how to use Giant magic, unlike Thor, which is a great asset to Odin. Especially his ability to translate almost anything.
What makes it especially sad is when Thor says "Gotcha" and "Wasn't about to lose that mask" he doesn't sound _as_ aggressive as he normally does. It's almost like he's finally beginning to realize that Atreus isn't someone out to destroy his family or his home, he's just a kid who's had to make tough choices and sometimes made the wrong one.
And then Odin shows up and completely ignores him, and he returns to his hateful mindset because Odin reinforces Thor's idea that Atreus is there to divide them. Then, when Sif tries to talk to Thor and show him what Odin is, Thor directs it at Atreus instead. Odin is such a poisonous figurehead that by just _showing up_ he fundamentally messed with the people around him and their responses.
1:16 oof, look how the two Valks backpedal as Odin approached. It's always subtle, but you can really get an idea of how horrible Odin is if you just watch him and how people act around him.
Sif is an incredible mom. She even accepted Magni , even though he was her stepson.
Isnt she literally the Goddess of motherhood and family or something?
??
I still wonder what happened to jarnsaxsa, magnis biological mom
You make it sound like accepting a step child is some miracle. It’s pretty common
@@Capex567 Odin probably order Thor to murder her
Odin really lives by the term the best lies are the truth, it reminds me of what Mamir said about Odin when we first encounter him too. "Even if he tells you the sky is blue, he's lying."
it was "if he tells you snow is white he is lying"
@@disgustingnerd7027 huh I could have sworn it was if he tells you the sky is blue. I may have misremembered it though so my bad I guess. My point still stands.
I can only imagine what Odin did right after Atreus escaped from Thor’s wrath.
Probably threatened thor if he were to do that again to atreus/Loki thor would suffer a much bigger punishment
He probably gave Sif an earful for making Loki lose trust in the Aesir
He probably exploded in rage like Hades from Hercules movie.
Probably got into an angry rant about him now having to go play Tyr to fix another one of Thor's messes.
Blame, belittle, insult, and threaten Thor.
Odin already knew Kratos whacked Heimdall at this point. He was the imposter Tyr.
0:26 you can see how thor wanted a praise from his father but he just won't get it as he is just being used
1:05
There's a very subtle detail in here that can be easily missed.
Notice there's a slight Pause before Odin said "Started drinking on his own again", Odin is lying, and this is also a behavior that manipulators tend to do, they paused, did a quick thinking on how to picture the situation in their favor before laying out the lie.
Recall in a previous scene where Thor was frustrated on Odin's decision to bring Atreus to Asgard and Odin ended the conversation with "Honestly I liked you better as a Drunk", which means Odin has a hand on Thor breaking down drinking again.
Not to mention in odins Introduction he put a drink down right in front of thor and then drank it right Infront of him saying "your no fun anymore" another part of his manipulation
@@KingSpades it's a sadly effective tech too, back when I first joined the workforce I worked at a local bank. My Senior is a very very fierce woman and she puts on this always angry always badmouthing persona on me while acting professionally on her coworkers. Naive as I was back then I ended up fearing her instead and frustrated inside. Suffice to say that wasn't a very pleasant experience. Thank God it only lasted about a year or so.
@@ThisIsPampkin I hope things have gotten better for you man 👍
@@KingSpades it has, thank God it had gotten better for me now. Got a job that I enjoy and I also started hanging out with a girl ever since this year starts. Thanks for the prayers friend.👍
@@ThisIsPampkin np just keep pushing on 👍
Sif: "We use to tell them stories by the fire"
And then proceeding to beat the shit out of them the next day, what great couple activity you two have sif.
And how much of that is because of Odin being their grandfather? Also all Aesir are warmongering by their nature and culture. So it was probably like Spartan Society.
I love how Ingrid stops Thor pitting itself against mjolnir to later find out it’s Freyr godly weapon it’s backstory and then how Odin took it just to tie it up as a captive essentially and it makes sense why it immediately likes atreus all the small details
You missed earlier during the bar brawl. Ingrid and Mjolnir go at it at one point, zooming all over the place and crashing into each other. And at the end, when Atreus, Thor and Thrüd exit the bar, the two weapons exit in different fashion: Ingrid smoothly sails out and right back into her sheath, no worse for wear. Mjolnir, on the other hand, wobbles in the air for a bit, then crashes to the ground, implying that either it’s just as ‘drunk’ as its wielder, _or…_
@@omnimon2230 Ingrid won that round.
This scene shows how Odin is the perfect manipulator, theres no falsehood in what he says but in how he choose to tell the story lies the trap
My grandmother and grandfather are oddly similar to Odin, the mannerisms, the Voice, the Lies etc everything's similar, i found that a little disturbing for me 😅
I know this scene is sad but that 2:15 moment is so badass
I cant even blame Thor for his outrage, he is mad because he cannot disobey his father even tho all of it was his father's plan. Before knowing about Heimdall's death, Thor almost treated Atreus like his own son, catching him while he almost fell for the cliff, saying "gotcha" and "wasnt about to lose the mask" are those words from a father where they love someone but they have that little hint of wholesome denial. Thor is the true victim here, he is a destroyer because he does not know what to do nor can he just break it off, his death was harsh and he could have redeemed himself from there but seeing Odin as he was i expected him to do that
I believe the reason Odin abused Thor rather than just manipulating him like everyone else, is because he feared him.
Thor is probably the only one that could win in a fight against Odin and Odin is deathly afraid of prophecy’s, including the one of the cycle of children killing their parents.
So for Odin it wasn’t enough to keep Thor in line, he had to keep him submissive and a tool. And as long as a tool has a use, Odin will keep it even if it is a danger to everyone around
Oh please, almost nobody especially Thor cared about Heimdall and they only treat his death like that one employee that didn't come out from work that day.
@@frankwest5388 This makes sense. One thing that rang true about what Thor said was that he and Kratos are destroyers, specifically, gods whose divinities are tied to destruction. Everything about their godhood is that they can kill whatever they put their minds to, no matter how invincible or immortal it may seem. If Thor truly wanted Odin dead, he’d be dead, and there wouldn’t be anything anyone could do about it. Odin would’ve obviously known this, so he went well out of his way to keep Thor on his knees.
Thor truly did love his family. His sons, his daughter, and his wife. He just didn't really know how to truly be a father, because, well, look at *his* father.
0:59 Say what you want, Odin is spitting straight facts there.
Doesn’t change the fact that those problems stem from Odin himself, even if he isn’t wrong here.
Yeah, funny enough, she blames Atreus for all three things and all of those were the individual's choice at the end of the day. Heimdall wouldn't let up, Thrud made her own choices, and Thor started drinking on his own. However, it should mentioned that Odin had an influencing hand in the last one, likely to make Thor easier to control.
Can't really blame Sif for not liking Atreus, I mean he did kill her step son.
step son?? modi and magni were sons. baldur was Thor's brother (half)
@@TangSuijin Sindri said that Magni and Modi had different moms.
After she let Thor beat him up in the first place. They never cared much for Magni and Modi.
Sif doesnt know that. In fact, Kratos actively lied to Thor about Modis death, saying that "he died of the wounds you gave him". Even if they suspected that to be a lie, they'd just assume kratos killed him.
@@turbonerdo6838 Dude just check out the third encounter with Modi alone. Modi ran from the first encounter relatively unscathed. Second time, same thing. Third time, he straight up was almost dead and literally said that Thor beat him. Kratos was not lying at all.
1:29 this is legit sad as hell 😢
Eh…not really.
1:53 Did anyone else notice that mountain face looking thing behind them?
2:38 Odin:stand down
(Process to hammer)
I really really love Odin in this game. Obviously I hate him just as much as I love him. But he wasnt some all commanding presence at all, he actually behaved more like a creepy uncle/mob boss of the family. Richard Schiff is truly an amazing actor
I always found female faces in this game a bit weird and I finally figured out why! SHE DOESNT BLINK!
I dont know why but it seems only Sif has that weird effect. I think its because her face is almost always at neutral.
Blinking is for weak mortals
¡Blink motherfucka!
-Young Kratos
When sif came through I like how Odin's Ravens say awwwnnn awwwwn awwwnnn 😂😂😂😂😂
I thought i expected the asgardians to teleport in a beam of light like the einherjar or from marvel thor
I really wish Thor had lived, Atreus and him looked like they could have had a nice friendship
That lil pat on the back from Thor was cool, he was slowly warming up to Atreus.
Thor was *_this_* close to getting Hercule'd.
1:01 here Odin was spitting fax tbh lol
And apparently it happens to most big family when the grandparents still alive
Thor was so lovably dumb and dense. Took him the whole game to find the root of all his problems.
Idk why I was in confusion of why the two valkyries pulled up on Kratos at the galactic place with Sutr and legit didn’t realize Odin went to the side to talk to them about that and the fact that he’s disguised as Tyr on their side, he always has tabs and locations on them for that to easily happen, nice touch looking back
Whoever did the voice acting of odin is so perfect 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Richard Schiff
The “word” to the Valkyries: hey lokis gonna betray us at the spark of the world, kill him when he tries okay?
holy shit lol
The skeletons behind Hrist and Mist and Sif while she pleads her case for Loki to be taken away because of Heimdall's death and then the camera pans towards those swords behind Odin when he explains why Sif is out of line. Odin is fine with all the dead bodies so long as he learns what he needs to learn. He does not care.
They're literally surrounded by dead bodies.
Sindri basically saved the entire odin 's bloodline💀💀
If you think about it, it’s really Odin’s fault that Heimdall is dead cause he knew kratos was planning to kill him from his time as Tyr and even though he couldn’t blow his cover, he essentially sent heimdall to die by sending him to Vanaheim and as far as I know didn’t even tell Heimdall what was going on.
He either didnt fully believe Kratos's actual power. Or he didnt think Heimdall was stupid enough to pull up on Kratos without backup.
I'll give Odin this, he was smart enough to use Thor to test the waters with Kratos first.
And also so they could 2v1 him if things got too out of hand.
Kratos is easily the best 1v1 combatant in the series. But against 2 gods of enough power he would likely lose. Depending on who they are.
Everyone usually is too afraid to fight him and Kratos is generally smart enough to use other forces to seperate them.
Odin so far has been the only God smart enough to realize 1v1'ing Kratos is a stupid plan given his reputation. Or they are all too proud. Doesnt matter
He thought heimdall could kill kratos.
2:15 Thors face will scare me everytine
Caseoh
2:20 at this moment Thor's accusation is aimed right at Odin with where the camera is placed. But Thor can only blame Atreus. Interesting little detail
Love Ingrid who directly protect Atreus at it's own cost ❤
Spoilers: -Ingrid returns later, perfectly fine.-
Curious how sif and thor remember telling stories by the fire but not all the times they beat the shit out of magni and modi
2:33 Thor tries not to laugh when he finally realizes what he can " teach " Atreus
I know Sif just wants to pertect her family but its just so funny how right Odin was in this scene 😂😂
Thor is such a tragic character. In many ways he’s a mirror image of Kratos. Or rather a potential future of the old Kratos. Being a slave to an overbearing and all-powerful father and a slave to his rage and self-loathing.😢
So true. Kratos never wanted to fight Thor due to reminding of himself of serving the gods, but uses them for their own selfish ways. Also, it’s like Kratos seeing his younger self becoming more angry and vengeful, even bloodthirsty.
Fun fact
Forseti, mentioned here
0:42
Is the son of baldur
Ingrid is the real hero of the norse realm, because had he not been there, all hell wouldve broke loose
Odin-And your husband started drinking again on his own
Thor-I heard that ass
Odin-Oh I know
Thor-😡
Not gonna lie sometimes I find myself saying, “I’m sorry you are here WHY?”
Love the delivery
Odin doesn’t find out, he already knew
Hey, when Sif is tapping on Thor's chest... i don't know. That scene just illustrates so much about the effect a woman can have on a man in so many different areas for better or for worse. I just love the subtlety and the power of that moment. It's so powerful. Some real masculine and feminine energy coming into contact. To capture that in a video game is, I don't even know how to describe it. I just hope i wasn't the only one who felt that
Every time I see a new clip I catch a new detail. When Thor pulls Loki up he dusts off his back in a caring way cause he has kids of his own but he quickly says he didn’t want to lose the mask so it doesn’t look like he really cares. When Odin comes Thor immediately goes to him but Odin walks right past him to get the mask and Thor just takes it cause it’s his evil father. The contrast between Zeus and Odin behavior to other gods is cool.
This was so deep. Good perspective. Thor was once a proud popa of his two young little boys. Just for them to grow up and be killed.
Magni and modi had it coming tbh
They really did. I get that they were Thor and Sif’s sons, and obviously outliving any of your children sucks, but they were just not good people.
Dang, what’s worse is that idk if Sif was trying to get Thor to go after Atreus or Odin. I like to think in an alternate timeline Thor got a redemption arc
If anything, Thor is lucky that strike didn't land. We all know how kratos feels about his boy.
I feel like the Aesir Gods did have sympathy and good relations with Loki up to this moment, even Sif. She never intended to hurt or kill Loki and it was just that Odin was becoming corrupt but you have to give it to Odin and he does say some actual facts
I’d also like to add that Thor was kind of a Uncle/Brother to Loki and you can tell when Odin comes in Thor walks up like a prideful child just like Loki, they did form some relation up to the reckoning
She was bitter about her sons, but never hostile because Odin sent her sons to fight God killer like he didn't know Kratos would kill them.
Atreus: Hvergi!
Odin: NO!
Back to the broom closet
Im not gonna lie Odin sounds like Linus from Linus tech tips for some reason I get his vibe from him
Imagine if Thor actually killed Atreus, Kratos would go fucking apeshit
it's amazing that Odin can deliver all the comeback for every accusation Sif is throwing first Heimdall killer, Thrud safety and Thor starts drinking again
I wish we had some n*d3 mods of Sif & Thrud absolutely gorgeous women deserve to be seen
Fun fact: Sif is played by Elena from the uncharted series, once you know this fact, you can’t unhear her voice
I have the body of Thor. Can I have a Sif?
fuck Sif, pass me Faye
is ur hammer as big as his?
@@hoangtranviet2476 judging by the lack of replies from him, I think he doesn't.
Do you piss mead(meed?)?
Thor woulda received the Three Shoe Beatdown if that hammer connected with Atreus 💀
I can only assume Odin brought out the belt after Thor tried to kill Atreus
If you will pause on 2:44 you will see Kratos staying down there waiting for Atreus before Atreus fell on the ground
Asgard just plays the blame game all day.
"You endangered the daughter who I largely ignore."
"You killed my murderous sons"
"Im an alcoholic but it's your fault!"
"Dad is mean because thats just the way he is"
Lifestyles of the rich and famous out there
I didnt notice until just now that the sword blocks Thors Hammer.
It's not fair to say which scene is the best in this game because it was great lore with even greater voice actors and just a phenomenal game all around
Maybe not the video to bring it up, but I find it interesting and cool how Kratos (a man known for how little he speaks) fathered Atreus/Loki (a character who heavily relies on words to get out of sticky situations and who enjoys talking to people).
This was the only time I actually agreed with Odin, Sif was basically blaming everything on Atreus when Thor did relapse on his own, kratos killed Heimdall, Thrud made her mistakes on her own terms, all reality it should be blamed on Odin, everything happened because of his own selfish gain
Funny you say when initially even I thought the same.
I believe thor relapsing was odin’s fault. The way odin disregards thor’s kids most likely drove thor into relapsing. I just dont understand how could thor beat up modi like that after seeing him in ragnarok. The only plausible solution is that the writers retconned thor’s personality, which is too bad because the way they build up thor in the last game was the perfect nemesis for kratos. Thor in this game is just a wimp. I wonder who they had to please to make all these changes.
Can you believe people did not like Odin? He's fucking awesome!
Odin already knew that Kratos had killed Heimdall. Remember he was in their house disguised as Tyr when Kratos returned with the horn.
He already knew...disguised as Tyr.
Is that ingrid before atreus teleportibg?
Yeah, Ingrid blocked mjolnir from hitting atreus
@@eugene62 wow, great small detail
Thor may be dimmer than normal Aesir, but he isnt an idiot. Like all this time he is going around with Atreus, he wasn't bothered by the fact that Atreus is a major in his sons' deaths. But suddenly, as soon as Sif told him that those things, he loses his cool and tries to kill him. Lol.
Its called misdirected anger. He couldn't face the realization that Sif was getting at, that Odin manipulated everyone and is his real enemy. So he turned on the boy instead.
Thor out here radiating pure uncle energy lol
I never realised the sword saved Atreus here. He was actually to late for the portal so Thor could strike him but the blade didn't let that happen. Sick one.
Turns out the entire GoW franchise was a prequel to The Mask with Jim Carey
Was I the only one who kinda wished Atreus put the mask on and see what it does?? Instead of him just breaking it lol
You were not
Had Thor actually killed Atreus or even scarred him, Kratos would have turned the whole Norse Pantheon into past tense.
Not the whole, just the Aesir
Odin already knew who killed Heimdall
3:26
"Brother pleaaaaaaase"
Oh my god I am literally like this whenever I tell my girlfriend I wanna go outside. "Babe pleaaaaaase it's all so tense back hoooome" :(
I like how when Thor is about to kill *BOY* Odin screams “NO!” Cause of old man with anger issues found out his *BOY* was dead they would only last a few more seconds before they both died
that part had me clenching
Both MCU and GOW didn't appreciate this woman and always gave a smaller role than they should have been! However, Sif must have been in a very important position!
Bro. Mcu Sif had like 3 movies to shine. They fucked up. At least in god of war they gave her a personality. And a goal
@@ammonite0257 in fact, before the "marvel Thor movies" started, in the "marvel comics", Sif was the leading lady, Amora was the second female, and Jane was quite in the background! But the damn MCU has always worked in favor of the extremely useless b.... called Jane and has always put Sif in the background!
@@ramazancelik6061 bro I never would’ve guessed that from watching the films. The only things I know of sif in the mcu (or more accurately the only thing I remember) is that she is warrior. At least on God of war she has some dimension to her character.
Who gives af about Marvel?
@@ramazancelik6061 Jane was already swinging the hammer as Thor in the comics when the movies started...so that was always a goal for them.
If Atreus died on the spot, Thor and the rest of nine realms will witness the true rage of a God of War.
I would love more Atreus/Loki dialogue With Odin and Thor some questions like:
What happened to others Aesir and Vanir Gods and why they are not in Asgard or Vanahaim and if they exist and some of them are others children of Odin and Freya + Odin's Friends and Enemies And why are they missing and what happened to them like:
Hermod,Fulla,Gefjunn,Saga,Hlin,Kvasir,Vidar,Uller,Hodr,Var,Vali,Forseti,Nanna,Bragi,Hoenir,Skadi,Ran Freya and Freyr's Mother,Aegir,Njord Freya and freyr's father,Idrunn/Iduna,Sigyn Loki's wife,Meili,Simara surtur's wife,Hoed a valkyrie etc.. among others gods that are missing..
The others questions would be interesting for odin:
If asgard has a prison?
What happened to Thor's mother since the original Norse Mythology the son killed his own mother
And if Odin had others wives..
If Odin and Thor have pets as in Norse Mythology original Freya had several others animals,Thor her goats and Odin have a horse 8 paws who is one of Loki's children
Where is Valhalla or Sessrumnir and is there a way to get there or did a god go there...
Others questions: What is the true origin of how Odin lost his eye in Mimir's well or the portal
If Baldur,Magni and Modi among others death Gods can come back to life and why haven't they come back yet?
If Odin has a room Inside the hall like the others rooms and it would be a funny line for Atreus/Loki to say that he thought Asgard was different,much bigger and made of gold like Odin's palace
Questions for Thor with his family trying to make happy him and if Thor met Atreus mother or what it was like for him to fight Against Kratos and what he thought of the fight
A curiosity here:
Thor in Norse Mythology has gloves and a utility belt that makes him much stronger.
Heimdall being the son of 9 mothers like in the original Norse Mythology it would be nice for Odin to mention that And also Freya has 5 priestesses like Athena with her allies who prayed to her in Greek Mythology.
Freya's Priestesses They are: Sjofn,Vjofn,Lofn,Syn and Snotra
I missed those questions and dialogues for Odin that Atreus And also for Thor was going to make a shame it didn't happen,Too bad he didn't ask these questions 🥲😔 like and Bye!
At least Odin not having his horse is easy to answer: Atreus never does transform into mare in heat.
And why Baldr has not resurrected is easy to answer as well: Hel says Baldr remains dead.
Thor nearly killed his family there. When people asked about Asgard they would have gotten the same reaction as when they ask about Olympus