Gratz Is Hiding A PREDATORY Past...

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
  • A short yet in-depth analysis of Gratz' past under the CreepyProduce alias, what he did under this alias, the correlations between the two whilst also refuting some popular arguments that people use to defend Gratz.
    It is such a shame that this video has to be made as it seems like people aren't catching onto the obvious in spite of various community posts being made about him, of which you can find them in the citations list within the pastebin below.
    There is no gameplay footage or animations included in the video other than a cascading background, this has been done to keep the video easily digestible whilst also not being a black screen the entire time, as I would rather keep gameplay out of a serious topic
    This is another nail in the coffin for the Clash Royale community, even though these allegations are so old to the point where they're marinating.
    [CHAPTERS]
    00:00 - Intro
    00:44 - Addressing CreepyProduce
    02:29 - His "Response" Videos
    06:49 - Correlations
    10:45 - Debunking Defenders
    15:11 - Outro
    [CITATION LIST]
    pastebin.com/DNTZPDvu
    [MUSIC USED]
    LEMMiNO - Firecracker
    LEMMiNO - Blackout
    LEMMiNO - Cypher
    LEMMiNO - Siberian
    Tails Noir Preludes: Old Time Tech
    [CREDIT]
    JP in my Discord server for making me aware of multiple Reddit posts on various subreddits related to Gratz and CreepyProduce, which can be found in the citation list above.
    [DISCORD]
    / discord
    #gratz #gratzexposed #clashroyale
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  • @NaidvarRambles
    @NaidvarRambles  8 месяцев назад +435

    UPDATE: As of writing this comment, r/ClashRoyaleCircleJerk and now Ken himself are both aware of this video's existence, allowing for this message to spread further. I would like to give a huge thank you to Ken as well as the community members of r/ClashRoyaleCircleJerk for ensuring that this important message spreads regardless of my size as a creator. The objective in mind when I was composing this video was complete and once again, thank you all for sharing this video to ensure that people are aware of Gratz and his predatory past.
    EDIT: Boss_CR has now made his audience aware of Gratz through his own video whilst crediting mine for additional information, which gives me a huge amount of respect for him considering he is the first big content creator to dive into the matter as opposed to just mentioning my video without discussing the topic at hand.
    EDIT 2: HaVoC Gaming has now promoted my video, making it the largest content creator feasibly possible outside of the Clash Royale community to promote my video; this video and Gratz' disgusting actions has now reached a mainstream audience.
    If you are a content creator, curious Clash Royale community member or simply enjoy my content, please feel free to join my Discord server and contact me directly if you have questions or feedback you'd like to give! - discord.gg/NzffRgfdv6

    • @zubastikos
      @zubastikos 8 месяцев назад +28

      Went here after watching kens video.. good work...

    • @Drroled
      @Drroled 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@zubastikos same bro

    • @pengu981
      @pengu981 8 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@zubastikossame

    • @rahj0
      @rahj0 8 месяцев назад +7

      @zubastikos same

    • @sivetuscr
      @sivetuscr 8 месяцев назад +5

      i came from r/clashroyale, so it's spreaded even more... i just want to say... after watching the video, i have 2 main points for Gratz:
      1. All that was ever proved that he did was sending some sexual messages to a 15 years old girl. nobody knows, if she's traumatized (even tho you said she is - without a proof), he even said, that they weren't dating and they never met, which i absolutely believe him. also, 15 y.o. is not that little. for example i think of my friends as of normal people (and smart too, i'm on one of the best schools in Slovakia) and we make fun of some sexual things from time to time. my another classmate is 15 and dates an 18 y.o. and nobody finds it weird too..
      2. the 1st point might have sounded like i'm trying to make him look innocent, but that's not what i'm doing. i agree, that he did a bad thing, but still, it looks like he really regreted it and he's trying to forget about his past himself. i believe, that he has changed. he's only 21 and the fact, that he's making gaming videos ať that age also suggests, that he isn't really the most emotionally developed person. i rather think of him as of an impulsive person, who does stuff without thinking it through.
      These are all only theories tho, as well as much of the stuff in the video. i'm pretty sure, that he'll make a video on this topic very soon, so i think we'll find out there. anyways, for now i think, that he shouldn't be cancelled. this video will cause a lot of people to spam hate ať him tho, which might cause him depression, make him return to his old habits or even worse, so imo this is not the best way to put this video, but i agree, that people should know about his history

  • @TheCooLuke
    @TheCooLuke 8 месяцев назад +1470

    Jesus, I watch him regularly and never realized the past he had.

  • @plolakopa9136
    @plolakopa9136 8 месяцев назад +657

    When the princess is LEVEL 15!!?!??!?!

    • @NaidvarRambles
      @NaidvarRambles  8 месяцев назад +215

      when you realise he was talking about a different type of level 15

    • @NormalAlt
      @NormalAlt 7 месяцев назад +49

      bro 💀

    • @SenderBender63
      @SenderBender63 3 месяца назад +29

      “Level 15 will kill clash Royale” is a title on one of his videos, makes me feel very weird about him rn

    • @-Zer002-
      @-Zer002- 2 месяца назад +1

      Bruh 💀

    • @buny0058
      @buny0058 2 месяца назад +2

      Ahh yes. Level 15 truly was the worst update.

  • @elauktan816
    @elauktan816 5 месяцев назад +289

    I got recommended this video after watching his “History of the Miner” video 👍💀

    • @ClankyAura
      @ClankyAura 2 месяца назад +9

      That’s crazy

    • @historicflame972
      @historicflame972 Месяц назад +8

      "Miners? LETS GO MINER. I love Miner" - That guy whose name I never knew

    • @Sceptonic
      @Sceptonic Месяц назад +6

      ​@@historicflame972crusher 21?

    • @myfriesryumyum6233
      @myfriesryumyum6233 Месяц назад +1

      @@historicflame972 thats crusher 21, a controversial cr youtuber because of his racial jokes

    • @Justarandomguy492
      @Justarandomguy492 8 дней назад

      OH SHIT 💀

  • @itsmecleverleygood
    @itsmecleverleygood 8 месяцев назад +1128

    this is so unfortunate, because he was literally the only cr youtuber that had his type of quality content

    • @sivetuscr
      @sivetuscr 8 месяцев назад +59

      he still is and probably will, this video is a bit overexaggerated, it's not THAT bad, like all he said was, that he sent sexual text to her and nie she is traumatized, but these were shown off context, what if she kinda triggered it, plus we don't know anything about her, if she's traumatized or not... yes, he did some bad, but why cancel him?

    • @meximelon5074
      @meximelon5074 8 месяцев назад +229

      @@sivetuscrhe knew she was a minor, if a minor asks you for inappropriate stuff it is your responsibility to say no. He is completely to blame.

    • @meximelon5074
      @meximelon5074 8 месяцев назад +63

      @@sivetuscralso, he could be forgiven if he actually took full responsibility for doing gross things.

    • @fabiaaquino2207
      @fabiaaquino2207 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@sivetuscrif you were the Nie you would be crying right now

    • @louismccomack9524
      @louismccomack9524 7 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@sivetuscrdid you see the fricken messages? That is some serious serial killer vibes...

  • @Infernos94
    @Infernos94 8 месяцев назад +292

    Dude I used to watch Creepyproduce before the controversy, he was one of my favorite RUclipsrs and I started watching Gratz without even realizing it was the same guy. Thats crazy.

  • @ChangeNameEdits
    @ChangeNameEdits 8 месяцев назад +202

    When a guy named creepy is actually creepy 🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @donanilao7724
    @donanilao7724 8 месяцев назад +401

    I am so new to this situation. I can not believe this man was a horrific creep from the past. Thanks for letting time take its course on this disgusting person a bit faster.

    • @arid5590
      @arid5590 8 месяцев назад +9

      Some people found the correlation between him and the other yt channel but I never thought that was true

    • @ChillestOfBalls
      @ChillestOfBalls 8 месяцев назад

      Truly a CR a moment

    • @CapnFlash48
      @CapnFlash48 7 месяцев назад

      I'm so sad because I was really liking his content

    • @grapeguy69
      @grapeguy69 7 месяцев назад

      @@CapnFlash48Darryl?

    • @wetowl6385
      @wetowl6385 7 месяцев назад

      I was a huge fan of CreepyProduce before the whole pedophilia. And when I first watched a video by Gratz I immediately knew it sounded like creepy.

  • @thebestworst8002
    @thebestworst8002 8 месяцев назад +386

    This video needs way more attention. This information needs to be more well known on RUclips

    • @theking167
      @theking167 8 месяцев назад +11

      Bro this jus came out it’ll gain attention overtime

    • @regachi6554
      @regachi6554 5 месяцев назад

      still dead to me
      @@theking167

  • @camacc
    @camacc 8 месяцев назад +302

    This needs to be seen by someone popular and be shed into light. This is deplorable and the fact that he’s making content without any consequences is terrible. I hope he gets what he deserves because he definitely seems to not have learnt his lesson. This is a terrible situation and i hope youtube sees this and removes him from the platform.

    • @derpstars
      @derpstars 8 месяцев назад +16

      Ken has already talked about it, but only really on a stream. Otherwise nobody else has really made any comments

    • @camacc
      @camacc 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@derpstars yeah but ive never really seen anyone making a video about it and not many people watch streams but i hope someone does something about it

    • @draco2378
      @draco2378 8 месяцев назад +1

      Gratz was the impostor

    • @after_image7360
      @after_image7360 8 месяцев назад +3

      kfc talked about it on stream and now in a video I think this will start getting really popular

    • @magea2926
      @magea2926 7 месяцев назад +1

      How about sharing and maybe give the news to moistcriticalz

  • @Test-kn8ec
    @Test-kn8ec 8 месяцев назад +116

    I can confirm that the GetRektM8 name was on both the creepyproduce channel and Gratz channel and it wasn’t photoshopped for Reddit. I went on both videos and the name was only on screen for a frame and only on max resolution but it was clearly there. Ironically deleting the video only proves that they’re responding to the situation and only adds fuel to the fire. It’s like a company removing a fake leak from the internet which only supports it’s validity

  • @verneboi1670
    @verneboi1670 7 месяцев назад +47

    A 19 year old being with a 16 year old is somewhat acceptable, but why the hell did he send those messages? Not to just a minor but anyone? I swear not a single person has ever in the history of mankind been interested in somebody after sending messages like those.

    • @brunoob1557
      @brunoob1557 7 месяцев назад +1

      I mean it depends but Technically it still counts to the predatory... catwgory same implies to C-P if you know what i mean

    • @verneboi1670
      @verneboi1670 7 месяцев назад +24

      Depends on where you live. In most countries age of consent is either 16 or 18. Considering that 16 is the most common age of consent its totally fine atleast in my eyes
      Edit: Its still creepy as hell what he did, im just saying that the situation would be completely different if the girl was 12

    • @kevinly5491
      @kevinly5491 Месяц назад

      @@verneboi1670EDP didn’t get that

    • @uhhhprussia
      @uhhhprussia Месяц назад

      ​@@verneboi1670his girl was 15

    • @agarcia6770
      @agarcia6770 Месяц назад +9

      This video is over exaggerated imo
      He made it seem like Gratz was a 20+ man talking to a 12 year old girl. Yes, he still did unacceptable things, but he shouldn’t be shamed forever for it. I believe in second chances, and he deserves a second chance

  • @byeguyssry
    @byeguyssry 8 месяцев назад +161

    The biggest problem he has is the inability to accept his wrongdoing and apologize or try to make up for it

    • @DemiCape
      @DemiCape 7 месяцев назад +22

      I doubt apologizing will work, even if he apologize people will still dislike what he did in the past and even if he moves on and try to make things better, doing what you suggested just is not gonna do anything and people will still cling on based on what he did.

    • @myoblivion420
      @myoblivion420 7 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@DemiCapeOnce your caught, it's basically over. People say you should apologizie but it doesn't matter when you do something very wrong.

    • @Reggy_Stat
      @Reggy_Stat 3 месяца назад +6

      I mean he’s doing pretty good for now, also idc about his past I just wanna watch his CR videos cause they’re entertaining

    • @vinceaerezt9506
      @vinceaerezt9506 Месяц назад +1

      Fr​@@Reggy_Stat

    • @marcorodriguez8792
      @marcorodriguez8792 Месяц назад +1

      Agreed. I like his videos and still enjoy them

  • @krispyhappy
    @krispyhappy 6 месяцев назад +33

    I have faith he wants to change, it just wouldn't make sense to throw things away again.

    • @NaidvarRambles
      @NaidvarRambles  6 месяцев назад +33

      hopefully he has changed, just wanted to raise awareness about who people are really watching

    • @Buddy09
      @Buddy09 13 дней назад +1

      I just checked out his old channel it still active

  • @crunchysoupp
    @crunchysoupp 6 месяцев назад +23

    Kinda ironic that Creepy Produce abbreviated is CP

    • @Sceptonic
      @Sceptonic Месяц назад

      It wasnt a coincidence

    • @DeliveryTank
      @DeliveryTank 16 дней назад

      cheese pizza

    • @Sceptonic
      @Sceptonic 16 дней назад

      @@DeliveryTank club penguin

  • @NormalChannel95
    @NormalChannel95 8 месяцев назад +96

    Kinda scary how many predators walk among us without us realizing until it's too late.

  • @oofmann
    @oofmann 8 месяцев назад +166

    Can there be just one youtuber who isnt a pedophile,stalker,creep,zoophile,bad person,or just anything bad
    Why can't there just be one normal person

    • @pubertdefrog
      @pubertdefrog 7 месяцев назад +31

      Most people actually are decent people, it’s just that there’s so many people on this planet that skew the occurrence of stuff like this.
      And unlike this situation, sometimes people get blasted by a small group for something small and relatively harmless compared to this

    • @_noturn0_474
      @_noturn0_474 7 месяцев назад +10

      Why do you think they "work" on youtube?

    • @oofmann
      @oofmann 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@pubertdefrog good point

    • @eds10blue79
      @eds10blue79 7 месяцев назад +5

      Strange how all this started happening in 2020

    • @oofmann
      @oofmann 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@eds10blue79 maybe the Corona drove them all mad

  • @Glitchy455
    @Glitchy455 7 месяцев назад +32

    i believe he deserves a second chance but what he did is terrafying. i hope more people see this and gratz admitts it

    • @nameynamd9212
      @nameynamd9212 7 месяцев назад +1

      Honestly have been hoping that there would be a genuine apology a long time from any RUclipsr, much less any content creator.

    • @Sombil27
      @Sombil27 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@nameynamd9212even if they apologized and truelly did change, nobody would really care or believe tbh.

    • @nameynamd9212
      @nameynamd9212 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@Sombil27 Caring, probably, but the effort to change shouldn't be influenced by being forgiven, but rather for self-improvement(maybe it could be proven someday, but yeah, it wouldn't be immediately noticable, potentially for a while).

  • @Da_frenchdude
    @Da_frenchdude 7 месяцев назад +18

    Y'all are being to hard on him, we all made sus comments as a kid, he was younger at that time, we don't want another Inquisitor situation

    • @Randomlad56
      @Randomlad56 6 месяцев назад +5

      Yup

    • @KeyBell
      @KeyBell 2 месяца назад +3

      Yea man it's a thing from the past

    • @shellshockedgerman3947
      @shellshockedgerman3947 14 дней назад +4

      "a 19 year old dating a 15 year old, which shouldn't be allowed"
      Highschoolers in shambles after hearing that statement.

  • @heinoussage
    @heinoussage Месяц назад +8

    i cant believe ive gotten to the point where internet drama has no effect on me anymore, i really do not care

  • @eexternal
    @eexternal 7 месяцев назад +16

    This is so crazy. I was watching this guy before he hit 1k subs on his Gratz Alias. I never knew about this, I was happy for his success because of his professionality and really well edited videos. This is sickening.

  • @jonathanunova2856
    @jonathanunova2856 8 месяцев назад +25

    WHAT? This is crazy news to me because not only did I use to watch CreepyProduce all the time, but I've also watched and enjoyed every single Gratz video without knowing any of this!

    • @OxwinMilitary
      @OxwinMilitary 7 месяцев назад +1

      Gratz is good, his content is amazing. he is the only one who does these types of videos for cr. i will keep watching his videos it doesnt matter what his personality is.

  • @colledeicorvi7422
    @colledeicorvi7422 7 месяцев назад +9

    He will ignore this and continue uploading, he was exposed 1 year ago and had no issues

    • @Randomlad56
      @Randomlad56 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yup, like water on a ducks back

  • @nexemisroguelikes234
    @nexemisroguelikes234 8 месяцев назад +18

    I knew his voice sounded familiar...

  • @francescodilorenzo7241
    @francescodilorenzo7241 2 месяца назад +10

    Despite a person's past, the content they create often reflects genuine intentions. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, overall, they might be fine. Admittedly, there have been some questionable actions, and although apologies have been made, there's lingering uncertainty about complete absolution. However, one aspect resonates with me, perhaps influenced by cultural differences: the perception of a four-year age gap between a 19-year-old and a 15-year-old. While legally, adulthood begins at 18, does that truly translate into emotional maturity? Yes, legally, one is accountable, but that alone doesn't denote genuine maturity. Being labeled an "adult" is somewhat arbitrary; merely fulfilling societal obligations such as work, taxes, homeownership, or car ownership doesn't inherently signify maturity. True adulthood encompasses mental growth. Thus, despite the girl being below the age of consent and not legally an adult, both parties are still adolescents.
    I find it really baffling how people are so quick to label relationships between individuals of different ages as creepy or degenerate, solely based on age. This knee-jerk reaction seems to stem from a cultural bias that fails to recognize the complexity of human relationships.
    The phrase "age is just a number" is often dismissed, but in certain contexts, it holds true. Some individuals may be only 14 years old yet possess considerable maturity, while others in their 30s may still lack significant life experience and emotional maturity.
    It's absurd to condemn a relationship between a 19-year-old and a 15-year-old as inherently wrong without considering the individuals involved and their level of maturity. This over the roof reaction, really highlights a flaw in societal thinking, where age gaps are automatically viewed as problematic.
    Rather than rushing to criticize and judge such situations, we should take a more nuanced approach and recognize that maturity is not solely determined by age. It's time to challenge these preconceived notions and encourage a more open-minded perspective on relationships and maturity.
    Cause boy o boy, u guys are hella biased when it comes to discussion like this, and while talking about others maturity, you should look on yours first. Not trying to defend the guy or anything just taking him as an example of how, idk american people for the most(?) some europian western people(?) idk dont think, are blinded by the concept of age gap and become absolute monkeys.

    • @themrdoggo
      @themrdoggo 2 месяца назад +4

      I love how everyone trying to defend him just comes in swinging with full on pro-pedo rhetoric

    • @jx5b
      @jx5b Месяц назад +2

      Love your comment. It rly takes a wise man to write something as complex as this. And i completly agree with you. Your comment is on the spot!

    • @calgoulden8223
      @calgoulden8223 23 дня назад +1

      'I find it really baffling how people are so quick to label relationships between individuals of different ages as creepy or degenerate, solely based on age. This knee-jerk reaction seems to stem from a cultural bias that fails to recognize the complexity of human relationships.'
      REAL, I think a lot of it is due to some people following societal morals whilst not having their own set of intuitive ones, so anything society deems as bad is set as an absolute rule. Obviously this is not wisdom

    • @themrdoggo
      @themrdoggo 23 дня назад

      @@calgoulden8223 Translation: You want to touch little girls

  • @Weeneedogsrock44
    @Weeneedogsrock44 8 месяцев назад +28

    I first learnt this from the circle jerk subreddit and they actually pinned the post about gratz to get it as much attention as they could.

    • @garchompinribs
      @garchompinribs 8 месяцев назад +11

      I found this video from that sub as well. We may be stupid, but we’re not creeps.

    • @derpstars
      @derpstars 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@garchompinribs As another circlejerk subreddit member, I can confirm

    • @garchompinribs
      @garchompinribs 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@derpstars Is this worth it?:
      Unsubscribe from Gratz 0 gems

    • @derpstars
      @derpstars 8 месяцев назад

      @@garchompinribs You should buy that offer, NOW

  • @VNC_Defualt
    @VNC_Defualt 8 месяцев назад +2

    omg i’ve been wanting someone to talk about this i’ve tried to reach out to youtuber (ofc no one will actually see it) but thank you i’ve stopped watching his videos bc of what you brought up in one of your clash royal video still just thank you it genuinely makes me happy to see someone talk about it❤❤

  • @TheEmeraldBlaziken
    @TheEmeraldBlaziken 8 месяцев назад +17

    Good god, this is extremely disturbing. Really goes to show that it’s so easy to mask who you really are on the internet. Thanks for bringing this to light.

  • @Kevin-ji3zq
    @Kevin-ji3zq 7 месяцев назад +11

    I used to watch CreepyProduce and remember hearing about this stuff back then. Then few years later I started watching Gratz' videos and I had no idea it was him...

  • @thescranstation2notbetter509
    @thescranstation2notbetter509 8 месяцев назад +18

    Honestly if he just addressed this and say hes more mature now and admit those mistakes it wouldnt be too bad but the fact hes just teying to hide his past is bad

  • @GuidedByGood
    @GuidedByGood 7 месяцев назад +20

    Damn, why is every person I watch that I find "underrated" a predator now. Its crazy how this shit is normalized so much among content creators.

  • @JWALL_
    @JWALL_ 7 месяцев назад +9

    When it comes to age gaps I disagree that 4 years is too much, my parents are 4 years apart, except they met when my mom was 18 and my dad was 22. It’s just that they met later.

  • @CilantroSandro
    @CilantroSandro 8 месяцев назад +43

    Bro, I loved this guy. I can’t believe it. Thanks for bringing this to light

    • @grapeguy69
      @grapeguy69 7 месяцев назад

      It’s like edp all over again

    • @CilantroSandro
      @CilantroSandro 7 месяцев назад

      @@grapeguy69 EDP is WAY worse tho

    • @grapeguy69
      @grapeguy69 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@CilantroSandro I mean at the end of the day all he truly wanted was a tasty cupcake.

    • @emerylsg
      @emerylsg 23 дня назад

      yeah I used to watch his mario kart videos constantly back then for a time

  • @CilantroSandro
    @CilantroSandro 8 месяцев назад +36

    Thanks for bringing this forward. I will say at least Gratz is not as bad as EDP

    • @NaidvarRambles
      @NaidvarRambles  8 месяцев назад +43

      thank goodness he didn't ask for a cupcake

    • @hmmidk6023
      @hmmidk6023 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@NaidvarRamblesnaw☠💀☠

    • @shadow2210k
      @shadow2210k 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@NaidvarRambles💀

  • @Parra_Lover
    @Parra_Lover 8 месяцев назад +49

    I hope this video gets exposed to an larger audience so more people can learn the truth

    • @NaidvarRambles
      @NaidvarRambles  8 месяцев назад +18

      I'm hoping more people get to see it, not for my own self-gain but because the truth needs to be known by the wider Clash Royale community considering Gratz is easily one of the larger figureheads of the community.

    • @Parra_Lover
      @Parra_Lover 8 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@NaidvarRamblesagreed

    • @karim1029
      @karim1029 8 месяцев назад +6

      theres a similar video to this released 11 months ago (albeit with less evidence) which didnt gain that much attention, i sure hope this one does tho

    • @DarkAsasin16
      @DarkAsasin16 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@NaidvarRambles Boss_CR has just made a video in it too, so probably more ppl will see

    • @Bicycle5835
      @Bicycle5835 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@NaidvarRambleswait question is it ok if we we’re dating before she was 18 because I’m 15 she’s 18 now we started dating when she was 16 I was 13

  • @A.I.Gaming
    @A.I.Gaming 8 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you for making this. Saw he was bad news via some reddit posts and shame these kinds of people don't even try to better themselves nor apologize, rather they run off and "rebrand" in hopes nobody finds out, but it's the internet, and they do a trash job hiding their past footprints..

  • @marcelosousagoncalves4636
    @marcelosousagoncalves4636 8 месяцев назад +23

    Thanks for the info Naidvar. Shame that one of my favorite RUclipsrs has a past like this.😢

  • @trengaming745
    @trengaming745 7 месяцев назад +5

    I mean personally… I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a 4 year age gap existing, it’s just how it came to exist that matters. This is not ok, but if it were like actual, natural love growing for months I don’t think we’d be here.
    Like I’ve been dating my gf since she was 14 and I was 16, it’s 2 years later now. Maybe it’s because of this that I think age gaps aren’t as important as the circumstances and context.

  • @chaibartolohuynh
    @chaibartolohuynh 7 месяцев назад +16

    Damn, this "Gratz" guy was so good at telling stories of clash royale, it's sad to see his true colors... and the worst part is that he keeps on lying or finding excuses and can't just admit it... Truly shocking and sad
    But thanks for showing the truth Naidvar

    • @VERGIL...-
      @VERGIL...- 6 месяцев назад +2

      Tbh when ur caught for such a serious thing,admitting to it will most likely do more harm than good since ur whole audience will know what you did and will constantly dislike bomb you,no matter how hard you try to make up for it

  • @Fanciestclown_15
    @Fanciestclown_15 7 месяцев назад +5

    Why does every youtuber i like have to be a predator

  • @SolarFuryMG
    @SolarFuryMG 8 месяцев назад +49

    Glad someone made a video about this. Well done.

    • @IceConsumer
      @IceConsumer 8 месяцев назад +2

      You knew about this? How long have you known

  • @iloowesgaming3357
    @iloowesgaming3357 7 месяцев назад +2

    There goes Gratz’s whole youtube career
    I love whatching Gratz Clash royale video’s Bc of his dedication and the eforu he put to his video’s but now i Just cant look at him the same way anymore and everyone has to know this AND I MEAN EVERYONE. EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THIS. *THIS VIDEO HAS TO GO VIRAL*

  • @jian_1512
    @jian_1512 8 месяцев назад +16

    Thanks for shedding light on this, I just hope 2 years was enough for him to make some change for the better

    • @VERGIL...-
      @VERGIL...- 6 месяцев назад

      I'm certain,he has seen the consequences of even just slightly engaging in any kind of sexual activity with a minor (he may have been taking it even further)
      But now he will know that even when incentivised by a minor to do so,that he should always refuse
      Since at the end of the day,minors never know what's good for themselves

  • @vanorsomethingidk5914
    @vanorsomethingidk5914 8 месяцев назад +28

    What a shame, I really loved his videos. I could never go back and see him as the same person ever again. Thank you for letting us know about this!

  • @simonouellette8608
    @simonouellette8608 8 месяцев назад +7

    As someone that just wanted to watch simple Clash Royale videos, thank you for bring this to light to the average viewer such as myself that had no idea. I never unsubscribed so fast from someone.

  • @gomdgomd2268
    @gomdgomd2268 8 месяцев назад +11

    I used to watch creepy produce during 2020 and he was one of my favorite RUclipsrs. Just a little bit of a criticism with the video, creepy produce never stole the video idea from parashock. Parashock actually stole it from a larger RUclipsr and made it his channel identity. One of the main things people use to defend him with that you didn’t mention is that in the texts he said that he was waiting to meet up when she turned 16 (16 was legal age where both of them were). I used to defend him until the mayro video came out exposing everything that he did wrong and you can’t come back from that. Callmecarson deserved better but creepy produce deserved worse.

  • @Something_Simple
    @Something_Simple 8 месяцев назад +14

    I actually really enjoyed watching Gratz, this is just unfortunate

  • @daancompen9874
    @daancompen9874 6 месяцев назад +5

    i feel so wronged. i absolutely love his content and watch his videos on repeat and now i get to know this side of him. i feel utterly discusted

  • @marsh1270
    @marsh1270 8 месяцев назад +5

    I had another very inflamatory comment but let's try to get my thoughts in order :
    It's sad to me that people think that shutting down a youtube channel is a good way to punish someone for what they did when they were 19 (because that is clearly the goal of this vid).
    I support neither Gratz his actions, nor this video as it doesn't do anything apart keeping the circle of hate going.

    • @AloofAthlete979
      @AloofAthlete979 7 месяцев назад +3

      I agree. Making a video isn't the right answer. All that does is adds fuel to the fire. Somebody should confront him, and if he seems genuinely sorry then we should forgive. But if he doesn't, then we should get him off the platform.

    • @askhry4102
      @askhry4102 7 месяцев назад

      @@AloofAthlete979btw, when you add fuel to fire the flame only increases or bursts temporarily. Like a short period of time and it’ll slowly disappear away.

    • @AloofAthlete979
      @AloofAthlete979 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@askhry4102 I'd type the nerd emoji if I wasn't on a laptop

    • @askhry4102
      @askhry4102 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@AloofAthlete979 lemme help u out 🤓

    • @AloofAthlete979
      @AloofAthlete979 6 месяцев назад

      @@askhry4102 thanks g 🤓

  • @Ex-memegodita
    @Ex-memegodita 7 месяцев назад +1

    I was one of the first people discovering gratz's channel a year ago when I finally started playing Clash royale after 6 years because I sucked at it. I watched every video, I loved him as a content creator, but now I understand everything, thanks for sharing the truth.

  • @Dustfired
    @Dustfired 5 месяцев назад +2

    This video is the epiphany of "The internet never forgets and never forgives."
    Let's hope he learned his lesson. Though i tend to say, "No forgiveness for predators"

  • @proberius9393
    @proberius9393 8 месяцев назад +14

    Dammit, i was really enjoying the clash royale documentaries aswell 😔

    • @chillstoneblakeblast3172
      @chillstoneblakeblast3172 8 месяцев назад +5

      Even though it was good content, It does not make up for his past offenses at all

    • @mist4488
      @mist4488 Месяц назад

      @@chillstoneblakeblast3172 how does his past taint his current content in any way

    • @chillstoneblakeblast3172
      @chillstoneblakeblast3172 Месяц назад

      @@mist4488 it doesn't affect his content, but he can't make up for his past by making content. I liked his videos quite a bit and think they are somewhat well made but I won't support it in any way

  • @Zer0_245
    @Zer0_245 5 месяцев назад +4

    I watched CreepyProduce ages ago and loved his content and recently started watching Gratz and i didn't even know his disturbing actions and I'm very disappointed on him

  • @t0rdkitkat
    @t0rdkitkat 5 месяцев назад +3

    The fact that i usually watch Gratz is terrifying, but I hope he actually learned his lesson and isnt making this deplorable actions currently. Honestly, if he found a way into the community again but isnt making this kind of actions, I think he deserves a second chance, otherwise, no thanks for this kind of persons on youtube.
    EDIT: Yes I also realize a crime is a crime even after all this time, but honestly, if it was like that, a lot of people would have been arrested by now. Also yes I do realize this is very serious, but lets just all hope he isnt having this kind of conversations anymore. Ofc that if he is, legal action must be taken.

  • @kunaphela4018
    @kunaphela4018 Месяц назад +2

    I was watching Ken's latest vid and he threw a shade at gratz which caught my curiousity. Thanks for the explanation and spreading awareness

    • @Cast-Carnival
      @Cast-Carnival Месяц назад

      "shoutout Gratz" was crazy.
      same story here btw

  • @gggrte7398
    @gggrte7398 8 месяцев назад +20

    I like how this isnt the first video on this topic. his videos are so well liked nobody really wants to take the initiative and cancel him

    • @gggrte7398
      @gggrte7398 8 месяцев назад +2

      I mean up until now

    • @yung_maryoda
      @yung_maryoda 7 месяцев назад +4

      why would he be cancelled? why do you all care about someone's personal life, let the law deal about it.

    • @AlexGamingAlexGaming02
      @AlexGamingAlexGaming02 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@yung_maryodahe’s trying to run away from it.

    • @yung_maryoda
      @yung_maryoda 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@AlexGamingAlexGaming02 I do not care hw is a great RUclipsr

    • @texck2219
      @texck2219 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@yung_maryoda bro exactly like why we should cancel that guys ? it been a while since his drama and tbh i dont give a shit for me imo i dont see the problem with the screenshot showed cauz she was consentent so really again where is the problem

  • @NoahRamseysGhost
    @NoahRamseysGhost 5 месяцев назад +3

    Hey, I doubt this will get any attention because I’m commenting this two months later, but I’m just now finding out about this. I was a mod for this guy’s discord server during the summer of 2020. Lots of things happened and I became pretty well known in the server. Around december of 2020, I became disinterested in the games he played (mostly MK) and left. I also had a lot of internal disagreements with the staff and the way they were shaping their community.
    Anyways, this shit came out early Jan 2021. I didn’t know until June because I basically stepped away from the entire community at that point.
    What I could have never seen coming was him rebranding to CR. He obviously returned to MK on his CreepyProduce channel, but the videos get a fraction of a fraction of the views they once got and the channel is obviously dead in the water.
    The pivot to CR isn’t surprising, but I would watch this guy’s videos all the time about a year ago and never know it was CreepyProduce. I just never made the voice connection in my head. I’ve talked to CreepyProduce many times since the allegations came out in Jan and I was made aware of them in June 2021.
    He definitely has made an “effort” to reform himself, or so he says. It’s also worth nothing several other admins and mods of the old 2020 CreepyProduce server turned out to be pedophiles and groomers too. I won’t name names, but if you’d like more on this please contact me on Discord. There are logs you haven’t seen.

    • @NaidvarRambles
      @NaidvarRambles  5 месяцев назад +1

      Apologies for reading this late, I've been on a hiatus amongst working on videos behind the scenes; but I would definitely love to get into contact considering I think making a follow up video on this is important, considering Gratz/CreepyProduce is desperately attempting to wipe his slate clean by reforming his RUclips account even further. If you can, please do send a friend request on Discord, my username is just "naidvar" - Having extra context would be absolutely wonderful!

  • @gamertaggt4552
    @gamertaggt4552 7 месяцев назад +2

    Funny thing is I don’t watch CR RUclipsrs anymore however recently I been watching his content which can explain how this video reached out to my feed and I’m actually blown away I don’t know about this (course I don’t but still it’s crazy to think about) it’s why you gotta be careful

  • @randombrian5
    @randombrian5 7 месяцев назад +2

    I never knew this. Thank you for posting this

  • @marianpopoescuadrianmircea
    @marianpopoescuadrianmircea 8 месяцев назад +11

    youtuber pro tip:
    -dont be a pedophile

    • @OxenMoxie
      @OxenMoxie 8 месяцев назад +1

      It seems like a no duh but some RUclipsrs don't get the hint.

    • @chillstoneblakeblast3172
      @chillstoneblakeblast3172 8 месяцев назад +1

      More like a Life hack if you ask me

  • @ChuBear0
    @ChuBear0 2 месяца назад +4

    I rarely comment on this type of videos
    But I'm kinda surprised how people can't forget/forgive when someone is trying to move on.. Gratz make a mistake and he was just 19 really young age..and he apologised and after years he creates a new channel hoping he will start a new page.. but we instead of SUPPORTING HIM we make the problem even bigger just to keep him down from his success ..i hope people can see and realise that we are the problem here

    • @birdinground1
      @birdinground1 2 месяца назад +1

      I’m just a bystander

    • @birdinground1
      @birdinground1 2 месяца назад

      I’m just a bystander

    • @jx5b
      @jx5b Месяц назад +2

      Agreed, it simply doesnt mean anything and ill continue supporting him as long as he makes a good content. I also just rn realised i wasnt subscribed on his channel so i just fixed that after watching this video :D.

  • @UUhm_1dk
    @UUhm_1dk 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you man. I heard rumors that he was a predator but you can never just take it for word. Thank you for this video

  • @user-uj2sj7zj4s
    @user-uj2sj7zj4s 7 месяцев назад +2

    I cant belive this, i found him when he first started and have watched all of his videos and this is who he is.

  • @Plackowicz
    @Plackowicz 8 месяцев назад +11

    For me, this is the fifth RUclipsr who turned out to be a groomer(or worse) in the last two weeks. Im use to it by now.
    EDIT: Sixth

    • @professorhal8098
      @professorhal8098 8 месяцев назад +1

      …what?

    • @Plackowicz
      @Plackowicz 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@professorhal8098
      Greetings from Poland xd

    • @chillstoneblakeblast3172
      @chillstoneblakeblast3172 8 месяцев назад +3

      Care to share the list?

    • @Plackowicz
      @Plackowicz 8 месяцев назад

      @@chillstoneblakeblast3172 All of these RUclipsrs are from Poland, so probably their nicknames won't tell you anything, but:
      Stuu
      GargamelVlog (commentary)
      Dizzowsky
      Boxdel
      DeeJayPalaside
      And now Grats + Plenty of other RUclipsrs who will soon be revealed, people who covered up such behavior or simply behaved disgustingly on the Internet

    • @illusioncat556
      @illusioncat556 8 месяцев назад +1

      I’m the end times, all secrets shall be revealed man

  • @MelonyPexed
    @MelonyPexed 2 месяца назад +2

    Bro I used to watch his MKW and now his CR without even knowing it's the same guy

  • @ethanbell6720
    @ethanbell6720 7 месяцев назад +2

    I watched creepyproduce before the controversy and loved his content, then forgot about him after it happened, then I got into cr and found gratz and thought he sounded really familiar, then I made the connection and this video confirmed it 😮

  • @neimanscr
    @neimanscr 6 месяцев назад +3

    Its actually mind boggling and baffling how people in these comments DO NOT CARE that someone is literally praying on children and trying to hide it. Wouldn't be surprised if the people saying this are predators themselves.

  • @Balls2334
    @Balls2334 8 месяцев назад +5

    Wow, I didn’t know that. Thanks for exposing him for his actions.

  • @triks9180
    @triks9180 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ever since I watched gratz many many months ago as someone who was in the Mario kart community I have suspected this for a while now

  • @user-vf1zw3wn3m
    @user-vf1zw3wn3m 2 месяца назад

    In the last week I have been recommended tons of his videos and watched a lot of them. I haven't played Clash Royale in years now but it was fun watching the history of a lot of the old cards I used to love. It's sad to see this is his past, and I wish this video was more popular. His past is disgusting

    • @jx5b
      @jx5b Месяц назад

      You might want to think again, not all ppl have a pretty past. But ppl can change and if you like his videos you just might as well forget about this and figure out for yourself if he is a good or bad guy. Not just blindly follow some furrys belives.

    • @user-vf1zw3wn3m
      @user-vf1zw3wn3m Месяц назад

      @@jx5b I am not planning on watching a pedophile who is trying to silence his past instead of apologize for it

    • @user-vf1zw3wn3m
      @user-vf1zw3wn3m 29 дней назад

      @@jx5bI am not gonna watch a pedophile who refuses to acknowledge his past and apologise for it but rather tries to escape it. I highly doubt he has changed and even if he did I wouldn’t want to watch him

  • @eff317
    @eff317 8 месяцев назад +6

    Aw man… I liked that guy :(

    • @hugemoist
      @hugemoist 8 месяцев назад +1

      Me too man

  • @greensky5328
    @greensky5328 7 месяцев назад +6

    While I don't think it's good to all jump on a hate bandwagon/witch hunt before assessing a situation, this sucks. It isn't EDP levels of bad, seems like they were both teenagers. That said him being manipulative and being with someone being that much younger than him is messed up and really unfortunate since he does make quite high quality content for a niche no one else covers. I think it's up to the community to hopefully handle this maturely. Ideally he could find some way to redeem himself though I'm not sure how, I'd like to hear what you other people think.

  • @OsamaBinFlyer
    @OsamaBinFlyer Месяц назад +1

    Yo what’s that background song in 7:10?

  • @nocturnenugget
    @nocturnenugget 8 месяцев назад +5

    oh damn, I had legitimately no clue about all this wtf, its a shame cause his current content is pretty cool but just, man, the stuff he's done is wildly out of pocket and shouldn't be acceptable under any circumstances, thanks yt algorithm for giving this to me

  • @superbreadysyoutubethingy8264
    @superbreadysyoutubethingy8264 8 месяцев назад +8

    I hope this video gets spread out more, because this is a big news. Sucks to a degree because his video ideas were actually pretty nice, hopeful someone who isn't a Cheese Pizza creepo decides to make historical overviews on the game's cards.

  • @InfinityExt
    @InfinityExt 5 месяцев назад +3

    Not owning up to his responsibilities and these vile actions and trying to run away from it Scott free is the ONLY problem with Gratz. But saying he doesn’t deserve a second chance and should never set foot on the internet is wrong. What makes you better then him if your both trying to ruin someone’s life. What happens if he does apologize and take responsibility for everything he did instead of giving bs excuses? Would you forgive him?
    Ok so I did more research and it is a lot worse than I thought but my point still stands. I agree that he should never return to the internet but only because of how he handled the situation(which was horrible)

  • @PhoenixAce
    @PhoenixAce 7 месяцев назад +2

    Man this really sucks he was one of the few RUclipsrs I anticipate an upload he made me get interested in clash again
    What a damn shame

  • @its_saber1525
    @its_saber1525 7 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who watchea Gratz AND used to watch CreepyProduce since he had like 1000 subs, I had no idea about this. No wonder I thought they were similar

  • @SoftSpotForTea
    @SoftSpotForTea 8 месяцев назад +9

    How many youtubers I watch are secretely such horrible people. 💀
    I've lost count by now.

    • @MrKiller392
      @MrKiller392 8 месяцев назад +2

      Last person happened with me is BoyInABand (One who did songs with PewDiePie and TheOdd1sOut)

  • @MrKiller392
    @MrKiller392 8 месяцев назад +5

    I think the reason, why this is happening, is because Gratz is making this shit, while being "kid" friendly youtuber. If you look at JSchlatt or Crusher21, you can see them making much darker things, then Gratz (Like Schlatt commonly confessing in "killing people", or Crusher's 9/11 team or slavery jokes). But we know they're making all this as a characters, and they're not regretting any of those things as characters. But Gratz is different. He screwed up, and with his responses he just made everyone knowing about shit he made, which made people hate him even more for that. And after all this time, he just tries to act like he's not responsible for any of that, which is opposite to what he did before. It just feels like he's not trying to learn on mistake he made, instead trying to run from it.

    • @dlovansl2
      @dlovansl2 8 месяцев назад +1

      I'd say crusher also made some awful racist jokes that shouldn't have been done after he was called out at first with the hog rider joke then the 9/11 thing.

    • @MrKiller392
      @MrKiller392 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@dlovansl2 He did, but he also never stopped doing this. At this point, I think he's uncancellable (Just just Schlatt, or any other channel with many dark humour)

    • @dlovansl2
      @dlovansl2 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MrKiller392I guess yeah

    • @dlovansl2
      @dlovansl2 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@theconfederatehoosier LMAO, are you dumb or something? Wow so a racist joke is fine to you? are you an average kid who tells someone that racist shit is fine? Then you're the one that needs to grow up.

  • @Zetsuboulurkswithin
    @Zetsuboulurkswithin 8 месяцев назад +8

    Yo.. what the actual hell..
    And honestly there's three things I wanna say..
    He would have gotten away with all of this if somehow he found someone else to voice the vids for him for the CR vids considering I'm only a simple RUclips watcher and I don't check CR reddits or discord servers..
    And oh he's definitely gonna start over again in a new community that he is interested in.. He ran away for almost an year with all this until now which means once he collects his final yt check from the CR channel he's probably gonna delete/abandon the channel because this expose vid is quickly ramping up in attention..
    And also its always such a shame when clearly talented people turn out to be a-holes/evil.. and for some reason it's always the RUclipss who know how to edit well.. (looking at a certain youtuber who has a triangle with an eye as their avatar)

  • @aratismitry
    @aratismitry 8 месяцев назад +5

    Aw man Gratz is literally one of my fav clash tuber I will still watch him tho

  • @f-gamer7880
    @f-gamer7880 7 месяцев назад +4

    Damn bro. Gratz was one of the youtubers i always respected for their content but i did not think he would be like this. Thanks for sharing man 🙏

  • @Thomas_Angelo
    @Thomas_Angelo 8 месяцев назад +5

    His videos are amazing. I just can't believe this. How could people do such a thing?

  • @kingfury3726
    @kingfury3726 8 месяцев назад +5

    Imma be straignt honest. Its cool you brought it up, and people should be aware, but for me personally i dont really look at who is making the content but more if the quality if the content. His videos are actually really good, and ill continue watching him anyways, kne this os for sure though, i wont look at him the same way now that i know all the wrong stuff he did

  • @user-ze9rh9ts3t
    @user-ze9rh9ts3t 7 месяцев назад +8

    I’m seeing a pattern here. Like there’s a certain “personality” that always seem to spawn preds.

  • @michaelperry7727
    @michaelperry7727 2 месяца назад +3

    Gratz likes lvl 6 goblins???

    • @jx5b
      @jx5b Месяц назад

      He might.

  • @tierdokuparodien8460
    @tierdokuparodien8460 7 месяцев назад +3

    Why is it always the quality content guys.

  • @Miralko314
    @Miralko314 Месяц назад +1

    i am of the belief that there can be relationships with vast age differences with no abuse and that anyone can be eventually forgiven, however even ethic standards prioritizing intent can't back gratz up much. it could be argued that the actions following the relationship were out of fear, but immaturity still has consequences that should be addressed. i'd call for a mandatory therapist and a public apology minimum. thank you for this exposition, wishing the best for everyone

  • @thatoneguythatexists4189
    @thatoneguythatexists4189 7 месяцев назад +4

    WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME?

  • @parker-lonzy650
    @parker-lonzy650 7 месяцев назад +3

    Well maybe he has recovered from a dark past and is trying to get past it. I’m not saying it’s for sure but it’s possible that he has changed

  • @ClassicssgamesGameplays
    @ClassicssgamesGameplays 8 месяцев назад +6

    WOW, it kinda sucks that Gratz has such a past and that he hasn't made a proper apology towards the whole situation. This video is very well researched for, since it has a lot of raw evidence that further proves what you're trying to explain, although you shouldn't take everything SunnyV2 says at face value as if he tells the absolute truth. Intenet Anarchist also suffers from the same problem, having some videos that accuse certain people of certain things while not having enough raw evidence, or just speculating altogether. However, I do believe one thing, and it is that: although gratz is clearly a person who has made the disgusting acts that you presented in the video, with the messages to the girl and the not taking the situation seriously enough, I don't believe he necessarily deserves to be wiped off the internet entirely.
    Yes, his innitials literally spell CP and his acts point towards him being a pedo, but you've also gotta consider why he might have acted the way he did instead of just assuming he didn't care about the real victim. For example, it is stated at the beginning of the video that the girl was somewhat influencing him, which we can all agree that it's true, but that he would later handle it in an improper way by saying the things he said while also not censoring the girls name when posting an apology video about the whole thing. That last thing (the not censoring the name) clearly states that he wasn't really thinking about guaranteeing the girl's online safety, altough it's not like she was that safe anyway considering she was talking to a guy like gratz; but besides that, the guy was clearly in a social state where he was worrying about his own public image and attempting to protect it for obvious reasons. The groomer is always seen as the one who did all the wrong and the victim is seen as the one who did nothing wrong, but for all you know, you might only know half of the story, since gratz has only mentioned their conversations very vaguely, saying that they never talked anything sexual and stuff (from what you've said in the video, at least). That's why I find it logical that gratz assumes a very self-protective role in his apology videos, but I can also tell that, although he's not making a good enough apology nor explanation of the situation to deserve to be forgiven for his actions, there is an undeniable level of genuineness to the apology. Sure, he didn't put his whole heart and soul into it, he didn't admit to being the one who caused mostly the entire problem to arise (the girl clearly influenced him, but only to a certain extent. The things he said can't be justified by just being "influenced" towards doing what he did, + he's older so he should have known better), he didn't acknowledge that he was the one in the wrong (at least, I think he didn't from what you said in the video); but he clearly made a response, and it wasn't for no reason. He could have just disappeared off of the phase of the internet without saying a word about it, but he did face the facts and he tried to say something about it, whether it was because he needed the money that's generated from his videos or not. Sure, he didn't do a good enough apology to be excused from his actions (as you said, he actually made it worse by attempting to gaslight the poor girl), but I think cancelling him altogether would be proposterous. There are way worse youtubers out there who are obviously pedos such as EDP and they haven't gotten cancelled, and there have been famous people on social media who have said controversial things that are absolutely unacceptable (i.e. Squimpus McGrimpus was also known for grooming, even though she DID acknowledge her actions more properly). The point is, a person doesn't deserve to be killed off the internet for one mistake. Even though he didn't apologize the way he should have, I think that if the victim forgives him and wants to move on, the rest of the world shouldn't have the right to decide his fate, unless you're a judge and dedicate your whole life to deciding those kind of things. I mean, wasn't the ban from wimmfi a bad enough punishment? If he were really a pedo, we'd have probably seen him doing another thing like this with someone else, and as of right now it doesn't seem like he wants to go through the same situation again (hence why he hasn't made a Discord server); so it's not like he's just running from his past while simultaneously continuing to make the same mistakes (even though he is, indeed, running from his past); he definitely has learned something: to not do or say anything that might make him look like a pedo FOR THE TIME BEING.
    We can't know for sure whether he is or isn't a pedo yet, we'll have to give it at least a few more years before we know, but that's why I think we should give him a chance to prove himself as a good person via this new identity because it doesn't seem like he wanted to affect the girl badly. He most likely didn't have bad intentions while writing the erotic stuff, whether or not it was legally moral to do so.
    Then again, I think it is unacceptable that gratz hasn't made a video on his channel stating that he is the same person as CreepyProduce, and I also think that he either must make a video explaining the entire thing with actual, raw evidence and apologizing in a better way or disappear off of youtube entirely. I know he has the resources to make such a video, specially considering the amount of research he's made towards his CR history videos. He must have the same capabilities to make a history-type video about that situation. If he doesn't make it after people start to become conscious of who he is, someone should reach out to him. Not via RUclips comments, but rather email or via Clash Royale's chat, since we know his player tag.
    I think this would be the most fair judgement scenario: If gratz acknowledges his past eventually and makes a genuine response on the gratz channel, I think he deserves to be let have an online identity on youtube. But if he continues to pretend like nothing happened for more than 2 years after the creation of the gratz channel (if no one reaches out to him about it beforehand), he might as well not exist as a RUclipsr as much as I hate to say it cause his videos are of impressive quality, but I can't watch someone who doesn't face the consequences of their actions properly and genuinely.
    About that whole "never talking about sexual stuff", which was technically a lie, I want to believe that what he was trying to say was that they never talked about actually meeting up in person and doing anything physical together, but rather "what he would do" or "what he'd like to do". They did talk about sexual stuff, just not actually doing it irl I think. Yes, I know that that's still considered grooming, but... When you think about it, they both probably talked a lot to eachother on Discord to the point where in some occassions, gratz most likely forgot about the implications of talking about those type of things to a minor cause they probably formed a lot of trust between eachother after a certain point, and this is proven in the sentence where the girl says she loves gratz, because you can't love someone if you don't feel a significant amount of trust towards them first. Since we know that gratz also loved her back, it doesn't seem so out of line that he wanted to communicate some of his fantasies back to her, although I do recognize that the language he uses is EXTREMELY sus. Like, he chose his words to be very specifically kinky, and that leaves me thinking that he is either a pedo, or was severely addicted to +18 content at the time, which is also plausible. In any case, it's unnacceptable, but also not unforgivable nor unrefutable. What he did was clearly wrong, but from what I know, that doesn't mean he deserves all the blame. If he was more than 20 years old at the time of saying the sexualized stuff, I'd confidently say that he is a pedo, but even though you're legally an adult at the age of 18 in the US, you aren't allowed to drink alcohol, so... How mature was he really at the age of 19, if 19 isn't even considered an age at which people are mature enough to drink unsupervised? Probably not mature enough to be having any sort of relationship with a minor that involves romance. Oh well.... In a nutshell, I'm just trying to propose a possible scenario of what could have been the true story, since you can't really know for sure without the whole context, but what is undeniable is that as much as gratz may not be a bad person at heart and may not have any sort of malicious intent towards underage people, he has done things that are unacceptable and also unforgivable unless he properly apologizes for the things he did so that the whole public can see it. I think he should be mature enough now to be able to make such an apology. Heck, you can even notice how his voice became lower pitched between his 19 years to his current age. Gratz, if you ever read this... please. Prove yourself. Let us know who you really are if you want us to continue watching your videos. Do it. But not for your own benefit, but because it's the right thing to do.

    • @BLET_55artem55
      @BLET_55artem55 8 месяцев назад

      Gotta admit that I ain't reading all'at. At least at the moment

    • @drifter4520
      @drifter4520 7 месяцев назад +1

      i reading allat aint

  • @juanborra6055
    @juanborra6055 7 месяцев назад +2

    He seems to be doing what Sunnyv2 did in his drama, the one when talking about Chris's gender transformation. He simply just doesn't directly respond to anything about it and never brings it up again. Then later the drama surrounding him somewhat died out.

    • @Sceptonic
      @Sceptonic Месяц назад

      Except one is a whole lot worse and is still being talked about to this day

  • @wetowl6385
    @wetowl6385 7 месяцев назад +1

    I always had a sneaking suspicion about this as I used to be a fan of CreepyProduce. Around 8 months ago I even commented on his heal spell video telling him that he sounds like CreepyProduce

  • @queueuof
    @queueuof 6 месяцев назад +3

    bros been messaging some little princes 💀💀💀

  • @Mateusz-li7co
    @Mateusz-li7co Месяц назад +3

    Isnt 15 the age of consent or is it diffrent country like look if he MADE her do it thays not ok but if it was mutual its not criminal or something like that of he actually groomed her which isnt proved in here. BUT i think its sad he lied instead of the actual apology where he wasnt lying. But he started when this was 2 years ago and people change i think actually contacting gratz would be cool.

    • @normal_human24
      @normal_human24 Месяц назад

      The age of consent is 18

    • @pokeystar101
      @pokeystar101 Месяц назад +2

      @@normal_human24 different everywhere!!

    • @normal_human24
      @normal_human24 Месяц назад

      @@pokeystar101 not where gratz lives

    • @Mateusz-li7co
      @Mateusz-li7co Месяц назад

      @@normal_human24 ye make sense than

  • @elijahdiaz9794
    @elijahdiaz9794 2 месяца назад +2

    I hope everyone knows that the girl ALSO had a choice,she still didn’t have to este him but she did,so don’t just pound the guy,she willingly was in a relationship with him when both of them knew it was wrong,I’m not defending what they did. But everyone here is talking about how he is so in the wrong but the girl rarely ever gets mentioned. And,this is his past,people can change,he may have changed his ways and he might truly regret what he did.

  • @idonthaveanameyoutube6244
    @idonthaveanameyoutube6244 8 месяцев назад +6

    I want to thank you for being truthful and shedding light on gratz disgusting and predatory past. I had no idea of his past and this information should be made more aware of. If no one ever said anything i would have been continuing supporting a predator

  • @ethanqian8442
    @ethanqian8442 7 месяцев назад +4

    Because of his pass, it aren't gonna stop me from watching a good clash Royale documentary content

  • @Jam-jlam
    @Jam-jlam 8 месяцев назад +3

    Jesus damn christ usually there is no drama in these kind of channels but drama is everywhere now like holy damn