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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2023
  • Miss Queen International is the world's most prestigious beauty pageant for trans women. Rana Thamrin follows several women chasing that title in Thailand and explores the role pageant competitors can play in changing perspectives of trans people.
    This episode was filmed in 2022.
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Комментарии • 774

  • @lochnessamonster1912
    @lochnessamonster1912 8 месяцев назад +156

    It's a beauty pageant. Might as well call it a stereotype contest, regardless.

  • @incars1000
    @incars1000 8 месяцев назад +327

    "it's not a celebration of trans women and their unique beauty, it's a celebration of passing" oof that hit me hard

    • @anthonyalles1833
      @anthonyalles1833 8 месяцев назад +29

      If you suffer from gender dysphoria, isn't that what you're looking to do?

    • @liminalmind2771
      @liminalmind2771 8 месяцев назад +21

      @@anthonyalles1833 The issue is more that someone may get to a point where they're happy with how they look and feel affirmed, but then everyone else or others in the trans community put pressure on them to "pass" or look "even better". So basically part of the issue is more of societal beauty standards at a certain point rather than just alleviating dysphoria which is the initial (and more important) goal

    • @anthonyalles1833
      @anthonyalles1833 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@liminalmind2771 Perhaps, but a trans person is no more obligated to dedicate her life to fighting the patriarchy than any other woman. They have enough problems to deal with, they don't need yet another burden unwillingly placed on them. IMHO I find all beauty pageants silly and retrograde, but I don't demand that everyone share my views.

    • @winstons2024
      @winstons2024 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@RobertTaylor-gz2fuLike you try to "pass" for a decent human being?

    • @RobertTaylor-gz2fu
      @RobertTaylor-gz2fu 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@winstons2024 You mean because I don't accept that Dylan Mulvaney, Eddie Izzard, Lia Thomas etc. are women?

  • @vanhoot2234
    @vanhoot2234 8 месяцев назад +50

    facinating that the cosmetic industry from the medical side is investing in the pageants. seems obvious in hindsight but still interesting to find that connection out

  • @vladnickul
    @vladnickul 7 месяцев назад +46

    a competition that rates plastic surgeons work :)

    • @erinlevere6881
      @erinlevere6881 4 месяца назад +7

      Well that goes for a lot of female beauty pageants too these days

    • @barbrothers2
      @barbrothers2 2 месяца назад

      @@erinlevere6881 you used to be banned from competing in pageants back in the day if they knew you had any plastic surgery. i know that women who have given birth aren't eligible to compete in some competitions (read it in the fine print in one i was in during my teens) so i really hope that rule has been eliminated if they're allowing males to join

    • @rottengal
      @rottengal Месяц назад +2

      @@barbrothers2unless you live under a rock, miss colombia and miss guatemala were both competing in miss universe this year and they are both mothers, what other excuse are you gonna use to spread your hate now?

  • @KookusMaximus
    @KookusMaximus 8 месяцев назад +113

    Grew up with family that participated in beauty pageants from the 60's thru the 80's. Mother was Miss Huntington Beach, older cousin was Miss California almost Miss America. The pressure on family split everything up. A generation of family that should have grown up and enjoyed each other's company building a community fractured because of mob mentality. That's what it feels like from my perspective. As long as pageants are an expression of creativity and social support for each other and not some contest to FIGHT each other over, then it is just humans doing something good. Kindness needs to win out.

    • @scaydsods2844
      @scaydsods2844 8 месяцев назад +12

      This applies to everything in life, love your point of view, keep spreading love 💕

    • @MA-fg5hz
      @MA-fg5hz 8 месяцев назад +8

      My neighbors daughter was Miss California, a gorgeous woman who died from alcohol Poisoning. She was a broken alcoholic in her 30's I think. A very sad story for their family.

    • @chillfluencer
      @chillfluencer 8 месяцев назад +2

      That's sick.

    • @alfonsoc.950
      @alfonsoc.950 6 месяцев назад

      I dont think these pagents will have kids and I doubt they were forced as kids (they were men back then) to compete

  • @TheDickassman
    @TheDickassman 8 месяцев назад +9

    Christ, a doctor that doesn’t know how to properly wear a surgical mask! 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @t.j.m7131
    @t.j.m7131 8 месяцев назад +152

    They can have their own shows with their own display of talent. I dont think merging is needed

    • @catbox7958
      @catbox7958 8 месяцев назад

      They’re all women tho.

    • @connor5669
      @connor5669 8 месяцев назад +14

      Separate but equal!!

    • @getthekool1758
      @getthekool1758 8 месяцев назад

      They are not women, they are men with lots of surgery, something that was not even allowed to women.

    • @NyanyiC
      @NyanyiC 8 месяцев назад +31

      I think that also goes for sporting activities - it's not fair for them to compete with natural women

    • @mytruecrimelibrary
      @mytruecrimelibrary 8 месяцев назад +10

      So segregation? Gross.

  • @Spearca
    @Spearca 8 месяцев назад +162

    There's nothing wrong with people _wanting_ to express themselves with 'stereotypical' gender presentations, just as there's nothing wrong with going another way. It's only a problem when people are _forced_ to go one way, or victimized when they don't. Let people be free.

    • @RobertTaylor-gz2fu
      @RobertTaylor-gz2fu 8 месяцев назад +7

      How about 'new women' using all-female spaces?

    • @harrisonbannerman7412
      @harrisonbannerman7412 8 месяцев назад

      The problem is claiming stereotypes make you X.
      IE: If a white person acted like a stereotypical asian it would be called racism

    • @jjswigger8591
      @jjswigger8591 8 месяцев назад

      too bad 4/5 trans are meth heads

    • @damien4969
      @damien4969 8 месяцев назад +18

      @@RobertTaylor-gz2fumost women support trans rights lmao

    • @RobertTaylor-gz2fu
      @RobertTaylor-gz2fu 8 месяцев назад +16

      @@damien4969 Most women aren't accepting of 'new women' in all-female spaces or women's sports.

  • @killercaos123
    @killercaos123 8 месяцев назад +7

    God Thailand is the most based Asian country ever. Where can u smoke weed, drink beer, and look at a trans beauty pageant?

    • @barbrothers2
      @barbrothers2 2 месяца назад

      you could just go to hostess bars in japan or south korea, drink and look at actual real beautiful women, not men. chaser?

  • @AgentMucha
    @AgentMucha 8 месяцев назад +38

    This seems like a competition/advertisement for plastic surgeons?

    • @mrobject9113
      @mrobject9113 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, that's what all beauty pageants are for, to make ugly women feel bad about themselves enough to pay money to surgically alter themselves to look like the women on tv. Are you new here?

    • @getthekool1758
      @getthekool1758 8 месяцев назад

      Also butchers that want to make money on confused kids. Tons fo money.

    • @nigelfrench8894
      @nigelfrench8894 8 месяцев назад

      Yes, a money making industry. Male plastic surgeons creating a male fantasy!

  • @iamthenews5624
    @iamthenews5624 8 месяцев назад +28

    Perfect. The fact that doctors judge this completion speaks volumes 😖

    • @jaws392
      @jaws392 8 месяцев назад +1

      Any doctor who thinks a trans woman is a woman, needs to have their medical license revoked immediately. Please stop conforming to a person’s delusions.

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love 6 месяцев назад +1

      The fact that you felt it important to post your nonsense, and not even spell words correctly, speaks volumes about you.

  • @dayreal3243
    @dayreal3243 8 месяцев назад +5

    One would think 8n other places of their world in trans communities They would want evolved from women competitive pageant. Mimicking what cis women go through is just ridiculous. Beauty is internal and external.. Humanity wants attention especially from each other. Very immature. More important things on earth to do in support of humanity

  • @TravelAlwaysOfficial
    @TravelAlwaysOfficial 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @melvinscott9017
    @melvinscott9017 7 месяцев назад +3

    Awesome video.

  • @xyr3s
    @xyr3s 8 месяцев назад +19

    It's fine. They are doing their own thing. No problems with that at all. Infact i hope they are successful and have fun.

  • @kanakana2438
    @kanakana2438 8 месяцев назад +11

    They are beautiful!!

  • @shivanasingh9581
    @shivanasingh9581 5 месяцев назад +1

    Beautifully done. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @ms.moreno8471
    @ms.moreno8471 8 месяцев назад +6

    These girls inspire me to get skinny

    • @thedailyhummm
      @thedailyhummm Месяц назад

      what girls? I looked at the whole video and I didn’t see any girls

  • @NyanyiC
    @NyanyiC 8 месяцев назад +9

    They are beautiful

    • @KARMA-jr6uk
      @KARMA-jr6uk 8 месяцев назад +1

      😂

    • @NyanyiC
      @NyanyiC 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@KARMA-jr6uk I'm assuming you are male-wouldn't you chat up any one of them?

    • @KARMA-jr6uk
      @KARMA-jr6uk 8 месяцев назад

      @@NyanyiC hell nah

    • @NyanyiC
      @NyanyiC 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@KARMA-jr6uk I'm sure you won't realize it at first. Like I said they are beautiful

    • @exnihilo415
      @exnihilo415 8 месяцев назад

      They are beautiful. I ended up marrying a Thai trans girl. Best decision I ever made.

  • @emiliobello2538
    @emiliobello2538 8 месяцев назад +4

    Maybe both
    Also do reports on Bangladesh please

  • @joelreeves2664
    @joelreeves2664 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can you do a video on hypohydrosis

  • @kendrakolker2065
    @kendrakolker2065 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great interviewer.

  • @Corgi_Manu
    @Corgi_Manu 7 месяцев назад +36

    I mean... Just have separate beauty pageants specifically for Trans. That makes more sense than merging with biological women pageants.

    • @alexandergapour1253
      @alexandergapour1253 5 месяцев назад +5

      If only they could do the same thing for sports

    • @rottengal
      @rottengal Месяц назад

      these beauty pageants have existed for years, decades even, straight people just ignore them because they don’t view them as “valid” as the pageants for biological women

  • @Palingkero
    @Palingkero 8 месяцев назад +3

    And that is the answer loser will give. I bet you they won't think that way should they had won.

  • @benjaminrobinson3104
    @benjaminrobinson3104 8 месяцев назад +44

    why is every other VICE video about trans people? I swear to god everyone is completely obsessed with this issue.

    • @hifijohn
      @hifijohn 8 месяцев назад +1

      Only the extreme left, they love anything thats weird and different and bothers conservatives and religious people.

    • @ijustchangedmyname7794
      @ijustchangedmyname7794 8 месяцев назад +2

      *God

    • @tintincruz8660
      @tintincruz8660 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@hifijohn Some do, but at least we can respect the differences in each humans instead of forcing everyone to be a fucking robot and fit inside one shoe. As anarchists, we don't put our confidence based on how we annoy conservative Nazis. We put it based on how we RESPECT people

    • @hertzbergny
      @hertzbergny 8 месяцев назад +2

      it's not an issue, silly goose!

    • @getthekool1758
      @getthekool1758 8 месяцев назад +1

      Soros bought them and that´s pretty obvious this is part of their agenda.

  • @selenaclarke
    @selenaclarke 3 месяца назад +3

    Autogynephilia

  • @wwedivas2011
    @wwedivas2011 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank God I'm American Trans Women in the USA but I do enjoy watching these Trans Beauty Pageants from these country, I hope who ever watching this video to learn more about our Trans community and not judge like these Online trolls with stupidity negative comments about Trans women, if ya don't like watching the video then don't watch go away K!

    • @barbrothers2
      @barbrothers2 2 месяца назад

      oh hunny you'll find more acceptance online than you ever will in real life. unless you live in a libbed out shthole, everyone hates trans women.

  • @madewhole-ev4uy
    @madewhole-ev4uy 6 месяцев назад +1

    The former is correct no need for a whole video

  • @86lngd25
    @86lngd25 8 месяцев назад +1

    0:42 if you want people to listen to anything your hauking yes it is lol

  • @na3visdoll
    @na3visdoll 5 месяцев назад +1

    idk I’m transgender myself and I think if all long as u have the means to look the part that’s all that matters but come on who wants to stand next to a brick and consider them your sister pls

    • @Nadia_Ngozi
      @Nadia_Ngozi 2 месяца назад

      I mean who cares. I’m trans as well. If every trans girl was a doll there it would be fabricated. Not everyone (even cis women are ultra feminine) you have tomboys etc . …trans people are the same. If you want to be a doll, be a doll. But don’t hate on other trans people because they don’t put the same values on passing as you do.

  • @DS-us1vi
    @DS-us1vi 8 месяцев назад +1

    Your conclusion was always something that was obvious honey, I apologise, but they chose to be there.

  • @shepavedtheway
    @shepavedtheway 4 месяца назад

    I just want to say not all clinics like this I think the owner, surgeon can actually get a bigger premises more room. The recovery room is really not hygienic and doesn’t look safe to me. Anyway they seem to doing well.

  • @AlIles-kr7ve
    @AlIles-kr7ve 6 месяцев назад +3

    Miss Pinay slayed!

  • @Iissllee690
    @Iissllee690 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can Cis women join?

    • @PeachBooks
      @PeachBooks 6 месяцев назад

      Nope. This is specific 😊 only transgenders are allowed because you have to present your old documents before you changed

    • @littlecatfeet9064
      @littlecatfeet9064 Месяц назад

      @@PeachBooksBut nothing is allowed to be women-only. Can’t OP just identify as a trans woman?

    • @PeachBooks
      @PeachBooks 29 дней назад +1

      @@littlecatfeet9064 honestly I have no idea why they join us in women’s only spaces. But the last I heard they were going to make it possible In miss universe. But this one is specific to just them

    • @PeachBooks
      @PeachBooks 29 дней назад

      @@littlecatfeet9064 you can try the forged papers but you have to show plastic surgery before and after here

  • @elliotf1029
    @elliotf1029 8 месяцев назад +12

    happy to see this subject explored with the level of nuance it deserves!! thank you to Rana for the insightful coverage

  • @user-wh9vy2fx8y
    @user-wh9vy2fx8y 8 месяцев назад +4

    Bro 😂

  • @Bradonkey99
    @Bradonkey99 8 месяцев назад +2

    "News"

  • @MadamT1979
    @MadamT1979 6 месяцев назад

    I hate the scary background tense music when the patients are in the recovery room. I think you are just jealous of the girls who have had surgeries when actually you’re faking the way you sound when you speak

  • @ohshedee2020
    @ohshedee2020 3 месяца назад

    A beauty pageant cant be the only platform for all the social equality that trans people are trying to achieve. A beauty pageant is about beauty, and gender dysphoria does need passing. But many pass in the normal world, to win, someone has to be a more pleasing to the eye.

  • @ananiesharon5159
    @ananiesharon5159 6 месяцев назад

    Respect each other ❤

  • @danrocha3219
    @danrocha3219 7 месяцев назад +3

    Well done small documentary, will pass to all my trans friends.
    What a great point of you!

  • @tashibalampkin8555
    @tashibalampkin8555 8 месяцев назад +6

    5:23 The term "mermaid" is rather cute and enduraning.

    • @getthekool1758
      @getthekool1758 8 месяцев назад

      I think it's discriminatory towards cows. Why doesn't anyone want to be a cow only a mermaid?

  • @user-tb7ws5lb4y
    @user-tb7ws5lb4y 8 месяцев назад +25

    I am a woman and I want to enter this space

    • @getthekool1758
      @getthekool1758 8 месяцев назад

      How do you compete with artificial beauty full of surgeries and silicon? And they are not women, just men.

    • @nigelfrench8894
      @nigelfrench8894 7 месяцев назад

      Mmm, I doubt a real woman would be allowed., but trans allowed in women's spaces.

  • @Iissllee690
    @Iissllee690 7 месяцев назад +2

    Yay Philippines!!!!

  • @pinkdollangel
    @pinkdollangel 8 месяцев назад +8

    How long before they turn the comments off on this

  • @carlabroderick5508
    @carlabroderick5508 5 месяцев назад

    Definitely reinforcing stereotypes.

  • @yardyknowwright1299
    @yardyknowwright1299 8 месяцев назад +2

    Step up your game then haha

  • @polarcorpuscle2941
    @polarcorpuscle2941 8 месяцев назад +3

    Omg this is like such a pressing question and we demand answers!!

  • @riseup2227
    @riseup2227 26 дней назад

    Beauty peagents are a result of basic human desire the feeling of being wanted and desired. Few questions and answers does not defines someone’s internal beauty. I can’t criticise it because I am also a human and I like being desired and attractive. But these pageants of any gender doesn’t define our true beauty. These contest only makes less attractive people more insecure. A day will come the technology like DNA modification and designer baby will make all people externally beautiful, especially the one who can afford it.

  • @juanjoserivasgarcia2336
    @juanjoserivasgarcia2336 6 месяцев назад +2

    I am a filmmaker student, in my own way and from my work, I am working and struggling on a project to help change these kind of social problems. I am from the same country as Javiera, and even that, myself as a man, struggle all the time finding people from the LGTB community to join my project. My point is, the world is like that, the only way to fulfill a change is creating something new; maybe judging these kind of events is not the proper way to find a solution, after all, most of them are "almost" honest, I mean they are always about beauty, that's the all point. If someone finds this must change then the solution is create a contest about something else, where beauty wwould be a minor factor.

  • @SidenoteChannel
    @SidenoteChannel 8 месяцев назад +3

    Tans videos employee is back from vacation I guess

  • @Dr.s3RTH
    @Dr.s3RTH 8 месяцев назад +1

    Neither

  • @Lily73938
    @Lily73938 8 месяцев назад +1

    I THINK that that's is just sou Wrong in all ways

  • @pampqnownw
    @pampqnownw 8 месяцев назад +1

    Papai cici - Malaysia ❤❤❤❤

  • @somebodysomebody7067
    @somebodysomebody7067 7 месяцев назад

    Most prettiest

  • @charleslindberg829
    @charleslindberg829 8 месяцев назад +5

    Trans or not. It's bizarre.
    Not in a good or bad way.
    Just bizarre.

    • @tintincruz8660
      @tintincruz8660 8 месяцев назад +2

      Agree. I am trans and coming from Philippines where pageants are a BILLION pesos industry, it's stupid and degrading to all women.

  • @majiccdtv
    @majiccdtv Месяц назад

    yes!!!!!!!!! yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @CRIMEWOODS
    @CRIMEWOODS 8 месяцев назад +24

    Reinforcing because I guarantee you, that the transwomen who allowed to participate, have to fit the "passability test". Beauty comes in all forms, and a transwoman shouldn't have to fit a mold to be considered beautiful.

    • @annenelson5656
      @annenelson5656 8 месяцев назад

      Neither should biological women. When I see a slightly overweight girl with dark skin, glasses and kinky hair I’ll believe that Miss America is about scholarships.

    • @rachelrolltide3106
      @rachelrolltide3106 8 месяцев назад +6

      It's the same for cis women. I ain't getting in that show.

    • @getthekool1758
      @getthekool1758 8 месяцев назад +6

      There is still room for an ugliness contest. That way no one feels offended.

    • @customfantasyhotwheels
      @customfantasyhotwheels 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@getthekool1758- Yeah, but still, most of them are gorgeous. They are all winners in my eyes.

    • @getthekool1758
      @getthekool1758 8 месяцев назад

      @@customfantasyhotwheels My point is there is a difference between what is ugly and what is beautiful. And seems people are getting offended because the reality is what is superior is better, and this is how life works.

  • @thatsbrujaafrikana
    @thatsbrujaafrikana 8 месяцев назад +2

    Honey, the Gworls are GIVING BEAUTY QUEENS YAAAASSS!!!!

  • @MrJamiez
    @MrJamiez 3 месяца назад +2

    3.4k dislikes

  • @RobAndrews18
    @RobAndrews18 6 месяцев назад

    "It's a celebration of passing-who can look and sound the most like a traditional cisgender beauty queen." That sounded like an insult to all transwomen

    • @chtuh
      @chtuh 5 месяцев назад

      Мужчина извращенец не является женщиной lol

    • @Ranatastic
      @Ranatastic 4 месяца назад

      Why is it an insult to trans women, we’re criticizing the institutions which subjected us to these standards,, 😅

  • @RhaStudios
    @RhaStudios 8 месяцев назад +2

    Impressive

  • @alexandergapour1253
    @alexandergapour1253 5 месяцев назад +1

    Well has a long has their doing their own thing and not ruining real woman spaces I am all for it

  • @ss-fm5le
    @ss-fm5le 8 месяцев назад +2

    Like box of candy you don't know which one have coconut and how big it is.

  • @igop8583
    @igop8583 8 месяцев назад +2

    My name is abdul saak deek i want to saak deek 😂😂😂😂

  • @MorganGates-zu3bh
    @MorganGates-zu3bh 4 месяца назад

    Beauty is in the eyes of the be holder.

  • @tibodeclercq2131
    @tibodeclercq2131 8 месяцев назад +3

    ew

  • @ellefields8878
    @ellefields8878 8 месяцев назад +36

    As a trans woman I try to be supportive but I don’t get the whole beauty pageant thing. Good on em for doing it live your truth and all but I think beauty pageants set back all women sis and trans.

    • @myron1231234
      @myron1231234 8 месяцев назад +1

      No such thing as a cis category for woman, you are a man and I would suggest heavy counseling because deep down you aren’t living your true self your living in delusion.

    • @wehrmeister
      @wehrmeister 8 месяцев назад +14

      As a straight male, I totally agree with you. No matter how they try to church these pageants up, it still boils down to displaying an individual as a dressed up piece of meat, no matter how many "world peace" questions you throw into it.

    • @alpacafish1269
      @alpacafish1269 8 месяцев назад

      that's understandable.

    • @customfantasyhotwheels
      @customfantasyhotwheels 8 месяцев назад

      Stop calling us normal people "cis". We are BIOLOGICAL males and females.
      If you cannot accept that, then you have to be comfortable with being called "tra**y" by us BIOLOGICAL men and women.

  • @pampqnownw
    @pampqnownw 8 месяцев назад

    Papai cici - Malaysia ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @kevinsargent
    @kevinsargent 8 месяцев назад +19

    They're just having a good time. Leave them alone.

  • @bunzinod1964
    @bunzinod1964 8 месяцев назад +7

    These are not women in any sense or by any standards they will never ever now what a real woman goes through...

    • @erinlevere6881
      @erinlevere6881 4 месяца назад

      They trans they never said they are female

  • @RobAndrews18
    @RobAndrews18 6 месяцев назад +2

    This makes more sense than them joining miss universe which is traditionally for natural born women. How can you push for transgender acceptance when you're already stepping the boundaries of nature. Fight for your rights, but don't say you are a woman coz you're not. But you are an amazing transgender woman and that's something to be proud of

  • @benm.8680
    @benm.8680 8 месяцев назад +10

    I keep coming back to Vice News hoping that they do more in-depth reporting about things that matter like Ukraine, and Israel, but each time I'm sadly disappointed. What happened?

    • @user-wh9vy2fx8y
      @user-wh9vy2fx8y 8 месяцев назад +7

      Transformers...
      More than meets the Eye

    • @MrKeyframes
      @MrKeyframes 8 месяцев назад +3

      they went from being counter-cultural to joining the mainstream media. pretty much an extension of the mass media but meant to spread their ESG-woke agenda to the younger demographic. they can't and won't encourage real critical thinking anymore. just follow the party line.

  • @w.urlitzer1869
    @w.urlitzer1869 7 месяцев назад +1

    it's fluff like straight miss competitions, with that extra layer of dark pattaya veneer

  • @pampqnownw
    @pampqnownw 8 месяцев назад

    Papai cici - Malaysia

  • @Sauravb610
    @Sauravb610 8 месяцев назад +7

    Where is your coverage on the Israel Palestine conflict?!

    • @mikek6825
      @mikek6825 8 месяцев назад +2

      I do not really have much to say about this topic either way...but you are right whats going on in the Middle East is more important/topical

    • @liminalmind2771
      @liminalmind2771 8 месяцев назад +4

      Vice has extensively covered middle eastern issues for over a decade. They'll get around to it . Also since this was filmed in 2022 Im guessing this is just a re-release on RUclips, not necessarily new

    • @getthekool1758
      @getthekool1758 8 месяцев назад

      They would be making propaganda for HAMAS anyways.

    • @littlecatfeet9064
      @littlecatfeet9064 Месяц назад

      Hasn’t VICE filed for bankruptcy? I doubt their reporters will be travelling much, if they have any reporters.

  • @renaldodevere3746
    @renaldodevere3746 8 месяцев назад +1

    Smh

  • @MadamT1979
    @MadamT1979 6 месяцев назад

    They just copied the concept from the Philippines. Our trans pageantry is way way back

  • @dltempar3356
    @dltempar3356 8 месяцев назад +2

    Not comparable nor should they be. Different foundations regardless of adding or subtracting.

  • @Cursedx
    @Cursedx 8 месяцев назад

    Wtf

  • @davidpak271
    @davidpak271 8 месяцев назад +3

    How about we just stop overthinking everything and just let people do whatever the fuck they want

    • @nicolemarie1360
      @nicolemarie1360 8 месяцев назад +4

      because while there are some trans women competing in beauty pageants, there are countless other trans women out there being beat, raped, shunned because they don't look "passing" and to reinforce this, only the most passing, gorgeous trans woman is their voice? it's pretty sad. at least least trans women and cis women share this issue.

    • @alpacafish1269
      @alpacafish1269 8 месяцев назад

      This is just a certain topic of discussion that is interesting to at least talk about. And like the person above me said, when there's countless non-passing transwomen being killed for being said non-passing (also cis women being killed for "appearing trans") how do these pageants presenting mostly passing trans-women effect those non-passing transwomen? It's just a question to be reckoned with.

  • @John-xb6qw
    @John-xb6qw 8 месяцев назад +6

    But they still never be a real woman 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @adryan7312
    @adryan7312 8 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for covering this, so insightful

  • @user-wh9vy2fx8y
    @user-wh9vy2fx8y 8 месяцев назад +9

    Transformers...
    More than meets the Eye

    • @NyanyiC
      @NyanyiC 8 месяцев назад +1

      Lol brutal 🤖

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 8 месяцев назад +58

    I don’t care what people do, so long as they are honest with and do no harm to others.

    • @sapphomet.7777
      @sapphomet.7777 8 месяцев назад

      Ty king

    • @kierenmoore3236
      @kierenmoore3236 8 месяцев назад

      @@sapphomet.7777 Sarcasm?

    • @sapphomet.7777
      @sapphomet.7777 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@kierenmoore3236 no straight up as a trans person This is an actually refreshing take because Fox News has tried to train a whole generation of people to try to immediately invoke ww2 get in the camps style Nazi propaganda against us

    • @desmond-hawkins
      @desmond-hawkins 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@kierenmoore3236 given the VICE audience and what they think about this topic, yes it's likely sarcasm. If you have the Chrome extension to view RUclips dislikes, this video is currently at 244 likes and 460 dislikes. Every single one on this topic gets ratio'd about 2-to-1 or even 3-to-1 and is full of hateful comments.

    • @RisetoStrength
      @RisetoStrength 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@desmond-hawkins It isn't hate to want to be safe in our own spaces.

  • @samhianblackmoon
    @samhianblackmoon 7 месяцев назад

    Nah

  • @kiwanalamarre1903
    @kiwanalamarre1903 6 месяцев назад

    i don't get it we already have women pageants why do we need this ?

    • @AkonFenty1992
      @AkonFenty1992 5 месяцев назад

      To separate the two. They need to compete against each other and not actual women.

  • @XEzomoX
    @XEzomoX 12 дней назад

    Affirm your delusion

  • @MHS-ql7ee
    @MHS-ql7ee 3 месяца назад +5

    These are MEN😂

  • @zu-tangclan8113
    @zu-tangclan8113 8 месяцев назад +30

    Here come all the sensitive boys crying about “wokeness” 🙄

    • @mrobject9113
      @mrobject9113 8 месяцев назад +8

      I always laugh at that because they're basically saying they're asleep.

    • @logoutjason4689
      @logoutjason4689 8 месяцев назад

      you can call them whatever they want, but those are just men 😂

    • @666j1
      @666j1 8 месяцев назад +1

      maybe its because you're woke?

    • @alpacafish1269
      @alpacafish1269 8 месяцев назад

      which is a good thing btw@@666j1

    • @jeremyallen5974
      @jeremyallen5974 8 месяцев назад +2

      It's not 'wokeness', it's flat out sexism

  • @barbrothers2
    @barbrothers2 2 месяца назад +1

    14:35 "its different because for us its a way to look the way we want to" LOL the hypocrisy... thats what all cosmetic surgery is about

  • @wucherer
    @wucherer 8 месяцев назад +3

    Let me clarify, i do not hate. That's your perspective and feelings of your creation. Yes, i could hate, but that's a choice, and there's more like love, compassion and empathy too. In growing up was taught religion of Christ, and in no eay Jesus never hated anyone throughout the years he was on Earth. God considers these lifestyles choices a sin, a given example is, Sodom and Gomorrah, in those cities had wickedness, but God was going to destroy, prior which is very important he sent two Angles in, but God didn't immediately destroy, he warn, and if you realize you are the one that hate, perhaps frim your personal experiences and your projecting your hate up us. Only hate i have is what if your wrong, and we are warning your pending doom? Personal choices have its own individual accountability. If its considered a sin, and I'm trying to warn it is the concern of the soul which when the body is finite the soul, consciousness is eternal. Trans person, even when you try to erase the outside the internal is hardwired including the dna, we cannot change the xx, and xy.

    • @PattyOflan88
      @PattyOflan88 7 месяцев назад

      Jesus didn't hate? What about with the money lenders and the bull whip?

  • @TariqT415
    @TariqT415 8 месяцев назад +2

    All of this trans content. Where is the reporting on Gaza???

  • @1127csk
    @1127csk 8 месяцев назад +2

  • @MorganGates-zu3bh
    @MorganGates-zu3bh 4 месяца назад +1

    Where are the women?

  • @gihankanishka
    @gihankanishka 8 месяцев назад +2

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @barrygraham2188
    @barrygraham2188 8 месяцев назад +1

    They are not women
    Women are nurturing
    Men are not

  • @Qazaq1001
    @Qazaq1001 6 месяцев назад +3

    Transwoman are the best ❤

  • @happyjo390
    @happyjo390 5 месяцев назад +2

    Cis……..don’t ever call me that to my face.

  • @qquet5
    @qquet5 8 месяцев назад +1

    😢