6.5 Creedmoor vs Steel: Bullet Style Changes Everything
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2023
- In today's video, we will be testing 14 bullets of different weights and styles in 6.5 Creedmoor to see how they compare on mild steel. Testing was done at 50 yards using A529 Grade 55 mild steel. Thanks for watching!
All of the ammo used was loaded with new heavily blemished brass, which is why you may see dings or folds on the shoulder of the brass. All of the projectiles used were purchased as pulled bullets, some of which are only offered in factory ammunition normally.
These tests are meant for entertainment and educational purposes only. Shooting steel can be dangerous, so do not try any of these tests at home! 
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Sectional density of a projectile plays a HUGE roll in penetration. Copper is harder than lead, yes. But it’s much lower in density. Lead is much more dense even though it’s softer, giving a higher sectional density.
There’s a reason why modern AP ammo uses tungsten cores, it’s hard as hell, and dense as hell.
So…that’s just mass, right?
A wise man once said "The best bullet is the one we made along the way"
Great work! I'd be interested in seeing a couple more copper rounds against this test to see if this was somehow a one off.
I got a 308 video coming up in the future with 3 different copper bullets. I really appreciate it!
That Barnes copper round is designed to expand and it is used as a hunting round. It's one of those lead free rounds for hunters so it's not hard copper.
I think this channel and Buffman are the two best ammo testing channels!!! So much detail and a focus on consistency!!!
We live in the Golden age of firearms and ballistic are showing it. Can't go wrong with any shelf ammunition. Great stuff!!!!
Look at the shine on that shootin' bench.
The rain definitely makes it look nice lol
What this tells me is all the projectiles are well made. And it is good information to keep in the back mind.
Even watching or hearing the bullets hit the steel is therapeutic.
Really cool video to respond to viewer suggestions/requests. Great way to engage your audience!
Bahaha 😝🤣😃 , love the flying banana. Another great video. Stay safe and happy shooting.
On your sled, use some small earth magnets to hold the plate on it. They work very well as I build a sled for a friend and used then for his.
Thanks for the idea. If I stick with this design, I'll have to try them out. Although it won't be for a few videos due to my filming cycle
Dude I've just found your stuff recently but you're an excellent content creator. Support all the way and the voice sells it, I've been going through your previous steel tests
When you do 308 test please use Barnes TTSX and TSX (no polymer tip). TSX is supposed to be “tougher” Cooper bullet.
If you can get your hands on military “Black Tip” that would be great for comparison.
I shot that one at Kevlar helmet and it penetrated all four sides.
This guy's got a pretty good radio voice lol
Thx for this, just the editing must have been alot of work. Great job.
It was, I really appreciate you recognizing it!
Very cool test, now onto doing the same with .308 😅
It’s coming in the future. Just have to do all the editing
Really enjoy your videos🤙👌 thanks for making cool content.
My go to channel during my lunch break awesome videos
I like the video very interesting you should test what those bullets will do to AR550 Armor plate grade steel because that steel is a lot harder than mild steel
the .220 swift would be an interesting bullet as supposedly it would go through some ww2 armor plate
That is a screaming cartridge. The closest thing I have tested is the 22-250, which still isn't quite up to that level
I think v3 sled needs more of a gap behind the target blank. some of your shots land where the horizontal and vertical supports are and that does and will affect the penetration of the round as it acts like thicker metal vs where it is unsupported in the middle.
I fairly new to the channel and so far i like your process, you do a good job being as fair as you can between rounds/guns.
Thanks for making these.
Also can be applied to the 6.5 Swede, slightly less velocity. I use the 120 TTSX AND 140 Accubond. With proper shot placement would use either for moose (but prefer my 9.3 x 64).
They use 140gr bonded 6.5x55 on the Aussie-version of Cape-Buffalo and it pole-axes them . Not sure if it was standard 6.5 x55 or the gruntier SE-version Dave nz
Another Awesome video !!!!!!!!!!!!!
It will be a nice addition if you had a high-speed camera recording the penetration at about 200k fps.
If I ever make enough to get one of those, I think it would be a really cool addition as well
Great video!
I was wrong 🤷🏼♂️ thanks for trying a copper bullet. I am curious if a 338 lapua with a solid copper would be any different. Maybe try a hammer copper bullet ? Heard they are tough.
I’ll have to see what I can do. I would be interested in the 338 as well!
Please try Barnes TSX - it has a reputation of being much tougher than newer TTSX
I would like to see this test done again with all copper bullets available on the market in .264
You could do an entire episode alone on HAMMER BULLETS. They have like a dozen or more bullets weights. And they are designed to shed there pedals so the shank will keep pushing through. Unlike most other copper bullets that retain all its weight and turn into a propeller. That's why they are not passing through the mild steel.
Just gotta remember... Copper bullets are designed to open rapidly and expand fast on impact. They definitely have the drive we as hunters want. Just gotta get them going fast. And know their limitations.
Cool video 👍
Nice video. Hope your v3 is a less frustrating sled, Rex Musa (that would be king of bananas)
Still trying to figure out v3. I appreciate it!
Imagine having The Slow Mo Guy colab with you like they did with Scott it'll be dope
We have a 375RUM and the corlock soft points blow through 1/2” plate and the solid copper ones put a slight divot
okay great 3 days ago - get some little round magnets - drill holes in upper edge sides of plate holder shove in little magnets- if you can get fancy trap magnets in spring then when plate bounces forward magnet spring pulls it back
maybe 4 magnets would keep it from bouncing off - or 6 - if you have thin rectangle magnet could cut notch in side edges for most holding power
Could you compare penetration test with calibers 25-06,308,6.5 Creedmoor and 270. Find your tests intriguing. J.Au-en
Your video is prime!
I' I wonder how the 6.5prc bullet works on these plates.
Thanks for your reply!
speed kills steel. i load a 90g tnt @3300+ from 26in barrel. with cfe-223 powder. i think would have a chance punching 1/2 in plate. very nice test. i love me some 6.5 testing.
Would be interesting if you test the Hornady superperformance CX (copper)
There's one piece of brass in the case over your left shoulder which has fallen over and it is driving me nutz.
Interesting result, perhaps add a couple of powerful magnets to the fixture to hold the plate a bit in place :)
That might be a good idea. Knowing my luck, I’d probably hit and shatter them first shot lol
@@bananaballistics :) I also forgot hard bangs makes at least iron lose its magnetic properties, not sure about neodymium..
Would need to be an electromagnet.
Excellent video. I'm loving what you do.
But you really need to spank that sled sheet metal holder. 😂 Do it on video please....
Lol we will have to see!
Great video today. Good job of dealing with the armchair trolls!
You like walking lol! Hey I noticed something on another channel one time. The old 30 30. I penetrates very well. I was thinking because its tip is flat and doesnt crush down so much on impact like pionted bullets. What if you were to flatten your tips down and try the 1/2" again? Just messing around anyways right? Would be interesting though. Thanks for the vid. Love your setup
Good show. Those plates were probably at 25 yards? So, similar results would be had with the 6.5 Swede.
Enjoyed the video, and some good information.
Barnes was forced to use soft copper by the ATF 20 years ago
"That one's a little too close." Then, he puts the 2nd shot through the same hole.👍
density is a helluva thing
Copper alloy vs lead penetration is extremely interesting. EFP bombs in Iraq used molten copper to penetrate through M1 Abrams tanks from the side. This requires more study. Please make a whole video on compassion of cooper rounds vs lead and steel core. Couple of calibers like 5.56, 6.5, 308 and hour 338 L.
Probably the hardest bullet for 338L will be Swift A Frame. Unfortunately Barnes doesn’t make 338 L TSX
Barnes makes very hard cooper TSX Safari bullet for 375 H&H
5.56 you can use Barnes TSX, TTSX, Green Tip with steel penetrator, and then bunch of lead rounds like SMHP, Hornady ELDX etc.
Attach an earth magnet on a bungee cord behind the plate and it will not fall down, it’ll bounce but not fall off the mount
I've got the same Magneto-speed. Do you find there's a change to point of impact with it on?
Pretty unimpressive considering I've put M855A1 through half inch at 100m from a 14.5in barrel. Failed to punch through 5/8 but out of 16 or 20 I'm curious
I thought that at least one of them would’ve went through the half inch as well
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Hi would you be able to do video for the new 6.5 prc it's supposed to be 200 fps faster then Creedmoor
The eldm surprised me I thought they was supposed too blow too pieces when they hit steel or hard target kinda like a frangible
If you have square magnets then on outside of edge sides of holder could drop a little square indent then magnet sits in little dip and holds plates - might be easiest - even just superglue or quick epoxy - if it gets hit scrape off with chisel glue new one on
Why was the plate holder balancing on a stick? That's what probably made it unstable 🤔
It seems like the flat tip 3030 acts like a holepunch or sorts.
What kind of chrono do you use?
MagnetoSpeed?
I need to shop for ammo where he shops at!
My guy. Where are you always walking?
Everybody has there own personal favorite round many will say 308 is the best its a great round yes I love the 6.5 prc it's fast hits hard very hard and stays flat out to ranges that far exceed the 308 capability to be honest farther then most can even shoot
V2 slippin
I can tell you that 6.5 prc definitely goes through some sht 😅 there only lile 300 fps faster but it seems to make alot of diff have put them through steel targets that were being hit with 308 6.5 Creedmoor and other stuff n only the prc would pass right through it
Awesome video. I found two 38/40 bullets their old but in good shape. I don't have anything to shoot them out of if you do you can have them. Anyway keep up the great content cheers from Canada 🍻.
6.5mm creedmoor vs. 6.5x55mm Swedish Mauser???
Who's the name of the musical artist and tune at 8:00?
Try some shoot of .375
Why do you load your magazine like a pistol cartridge that magazine can be loaded directly from the top straight down
Some mag designs don't allow you to load rounds straight from the top. Like the AICS polymer mags I have
I recently shot 308 Winchester 'frangible' ammo (magtech) hoping to see projectile 🍌vapors on steel.. but repeatedly punched holes right through.
🐒 Just ballistics testing..
Try hammer bullets
Dude looks like he's Pedro Pascal's brother 😁
So no 6.5 Creedmoor round can penetrate half-inch steel?
Proper Ap rounds will probably do it
I agree. If there were an ap round in the bunch, it would go through
I just want a cal that can take down a cap buffalo , head shot , that’s got to be powerful enough to take down any North American games
Magnetize the sled bud
are you on rumble?
Is that your real voice?
Penetration is not based off mass its based on velocity.
No it’s NOT!
It’s based on both:
Mass x Velocity to the second power all divided by 2.
@@JohnyBravo44 more velocity
The reason the solid copper didn’t penetrate steel is because it has a higher melting point than lead. When a lead bullet impacts, the compression it goes through causes the lead to melt. This molten metal actually burns through the steel. That’s why solid copper bullets don’t penetrate steel as well as lead core bullets. That’s how it was explained to me.
That is interesting, I didn’t even think about the copper having a higher melting point
That’s extremely interesting. EFP bombs in Iraq used molten copper to penetrate through M1 Abrams tanks from the side. This requires more study. Please make a whole video on compassion of cooper rounds vs lead and steel core. Couple of calibers like 5.56, 6.5, 308 and hour 338 L.
Probably the hardest bullet for 338L will be Swift A Frame. Unfortunately Barnes doesn’t make 338 L TSX
Barnes makes very hard cooper TSX Safari bullet for 375 H&H
The copper is too light to push through the density of the plate. Doesn't matter the speed, 6.5 doesn't have a lot of mass behind it even in lead form.... with the copper just not enough behind it to keep pushing through the density like a .30 to .40 cal etc. in copper form. I'm sure a .308 would punch through.. and I'm not favoring that round at all... it just has more mass in the copper round
Maybe if the copper was slowed down?
It’s possible, although I have a 308 video coming up in the future and copper isn’t looking so good in general
You might need to try non hunting copper projectiles, like cutting edge bullets match projectiles.@@bananaballistics
I shoot 120 TTSX in my 6.5 swede and they are devastating on large deer and nearly always get full penetration and always there is massive damage to the poor animal. Steel targets are interesting but not relevant for hunting.
Bro who doing voice over in your videos.
No one. This guy is a real man. He is a stunt double for Arnold in his action movies.
I don’t think I could afford voiceovers lol
Here is the actual facts on the 6.5. It is no better than the 308. Unless you intend to be shooting over 5-6 hundred yards. Otherwise the 308 is a better round , especially as a hunting/sniper cartridge!
I've said this to a couple friends.
What does said cartridge do better then 308, if its not better then 308 and its not cheaper then 308 I don't need it.
I see this mentality across all the hobbies I have of needing the new shiny thing, when in reality what you got is plenty for the task you use it for.
Except SOCOM tests showed the 6.5cm doubled the hit probablility at 1000, a 33% increase in effective range, 30% increase in energy AND 40% less wind drift. So where from that do you get the .308 is a better sniper round. Hunting i'm not arguing with, but the 6.5CM at longer distances is overall just better.
@@joshjamesguitar Did you not read my entire post ?? The overwhelming vast majority of shooters never shoot past 500 yards. So tell me how the 6.5 is better for the average shooter?? Also law enforcement snipers don’t shoot anywhere near 500 yards in actual situations.
Well there are a lot of shooters who shoot way past 500 yards. One of the competitons i'm training for shoots .22lr at nearly 550 yards.
6.5 being lighter recoiling is inherently easier to shoot, the only real disadvantage is barrel life and ammo choice.@@americanpatriot477
Dude, put graviti lock on that stand for plates, simple one L shape, and spare your legs...
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Who is trying to shoot steel with a 6.5 Creedmore???
Imagine not designing any sort of retaining mechanism for the steel sled, and then complaining about the sled's design like a paint-chip-eating clown.
Why would you expect the copper to do so well? Copper is a much softer metal than the others. It may be going faster but if it doesn’t have the rigidity, it’s going to get crushed like a marshmallow against the steel.
I was told that having one solid metal impacting would provide superior penetration. It made some sense, but that definitely wasn’t the result lol
Copper alloy is much harder than led which is main part of all those other bullets.
None of them had steel or tungsten core.
Theoretically Cooper bullet should penetrate deeper. I would love to see Barnes TSX shot as it it’s harder Cooper alloy than TTSX
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What was the distance you Americans always shoot to close !
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6.5 Creepmoor lol,if you want a real 6.5 bore rifle, neck down a 308 or 3006,I enjoy laughing at people that like the creepmoor.
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The porno music is so not cool 🤢
you'd get more views if you got a girl to shoot at the steel for you because 6.5 creedmoore is perfect for women.
My 6.5 Creedmoor fired through two brands of chronographs with the 129 Hornady IL, which does 2950 fps average with a 22-inch barrel. Go figure ?
Aim small good hunting.