Michigan Natural Resources Commission to consider new deer hunting regulations
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
- Last week, the Michigan Natural Resources Commission heard recommendations from the DNR's newly formed Deer Management Initiative (DMI) on how to handle the state's growing deer herd amid a decades-long decline in hunting.
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The Michigan DNR IS INCOMPETENT
I agree whole heartedly, lower the price of licenses, get more hunters. People are broke and food is expensive, they are just pandering to the insurance companies.
@charlie21gunner87 not only the insurance companies but hunting all across the country pander to the rich wile the rest of us struggle to get a chance to hunt.
spot on
Not the DNR it's the natural resources commission.. a group of individuals who the people of Michigan never got a chance to elect or vote for.. a group of people who think it's a good idea to limit the coyote hunting season.. these are the people who are incompetent.. the natural resources commission
It's for the rich people
Lazy report, stock deer farm footage with 200 inch bucks .
FACTS
I would say more slanted than lazy. News does it every night. They’re trying to prove their point about overpopulation.
Funny how they show giant bucks in Michigan. High fence pics.
I have hunted in the state of mich for 48 years and have killed many, many deer with bow and gun. First of all what is this earn a buck bs? More govt bs trying to control to fix the dnrs lack of competence over the years. The reason is simple why you have declining numbers, it is so expensive to hunt these days then ya have to find a place to hunt and if ya hunt state land you are subjected to dnrs harassment. Anymore you are considered guilty until proven innocent. Our dnr officers are cocky and disrespectful. Not all but I have seen over the years, unacceptable. Hunting is dyeing in mich for a# of reasons don't force your problem on the remaining hunters to fix.
i agree get rid of the NRC to start with!!! they ask the hunters with surveys and then do just the opposite all in the name of science ..i mean money!!
Of all their insane schemes , the earn a buck has got to be the worst, the fools in WI. tried it and it was a terrible failure
Your totally right 👍 but Michigan is a police state period
Plus what kind of "men" are we raising in MI now, most don't know if they are a boy or girl...
@@AChildofLightHEATHER of course they know. they are being brainwashed into the BS.
No mention of the U.P. at all? Most of the state has to few deer now. There is no public land anywhere in the state that is open to hunting where deer numbers are to high. Its just on some private lands where hunting is restricted. The DNR/NRC has failed completely with deer management in Michigan.
HUNTER NUMBERS ARE DOWN? HMMM I WONDER WHY ?.IF YOU WANT A QUALITY HUNT, GO TO ANOTHER STATE!!!!!!
I have gone out of state ten years and have gotten the biggest bucks I’ve ever seen all diy we need a one buck limit and no aprs too many small bucks cause too much stress on the trophy of tomorrow
Fish more!
Plenty of quality here.. ya don't eat antlers.
@@ryandaniels8022but bigger antlers usually have a lot more meat lmao
Because our tags equipment is too damn expensive to not get one deer and time is very valuable
Funny how none of these guys on the DNR board hunt
What’s funny? It’s the beginning of the end….they all vote Dem.
@@jayrobertson232 your right it's disgusting actually .... Not a ounce of common sense between any of them
it looks like the femininization of men has consequences.
@bryanjones14 How dare you insult the Department of Nuts and Rejects. Their skill level was passed on by their genius Democrat leaders who praise the president mouthful of marbles. 😵💫
@@briarpalek9254 well you know they read about hunting and wildlife in school so they must know right
The DNR officer's are little babies with chips on their shoulders 😮
I know one and he’s a fair and good guy, and he has your back for hunter harassment and trespassing. He doesn’t like unethical hunters and cheaters.
@@blauer2551 Good for you🤓
Spot on.... Look at the 3 they have in lake county.... Michigan
Umm, there definatly isnt an over population in my area. Mi dnr needs a reboot! Lower the prices on tags, there over priced.
Maybe the DNR is part of the hunting numbers being down?
Really? My ammo cost more than my license.
@@blauer2551 LOL, you pay maybe $1.00 a round, $11.00 initial license, $25.00 tag, $100.00 processing for 40 pounds of meat. Do the math, my guess is you have brats made, hunter sticks and all kinds of crap. People in general are broke, farmers are gut shooting deer just to get rid of them and they wonder why there are less hunters, go figure some more.
@@charlie21gunner87 450 Bushmaster is $3.50 per round for the stuff I use. Yes I get jerky, all the varieties, same with the hunters sticks too. Share them with my friends, family, and workmates and they can’t get enough.
Cmon down to branch, hillsdale and Jackson counties. Deer everywhere. You go for a ride in the evening and don’t go very far to see a hundred
UP deer herd has plummeted
I haven't seen a dear in my deer stand it two years .the dnr controls the deer by the amount of revenue they need
WOLVES
Wolves and cougars. Wait... Cougars!?!?
@@ryancline3192 we seen one ten years ago out of northland
A cougar ! Wolves for twenty
We have the good tool to lower the doe population and that is to have the youth hunt a doe only hunt. It would also not piss all the other hunters that don't get an equal chance at that buck they passed on last year.
I know a guy that takes his kid out every year. The kid already has four wall hangers.
The kid has wall hangers or the guy? Becuase i know a guy that takes his kid out every year, because he is a felon and uses his kid to get his wall hangers
@@whitehondarider22I can’t say for certain, but it’s his blind, gun, land and then he probably hands the loaded gun to the kid at the last second.
I also have a friend that has neighbors with 3 youth hunters to the north of him and 2 more youth hunters to the south, and for several years now they all get their troops. Soo when will it be enough and let the rest of the neighborhood have an equal chance. If it was doe only or even for first time hunters only then I think more people could get on board.
Totally agree .. youth hunt doe only .. shooting bucks in bachelor groups is not hunting … more like ‘getting’ … yeah the wall hanger thing MULTIPLE years is not right… IMO
Media needs to go to the deer farm to get B-roll for their report 😂
How about putting the price of doe tags back to six dollars. Can't do that, this state should have a one buck rule period the state will never do that, government waste and over spending.
If you want does harvested, doe tags should cost $1.
Here in west Virginia a doe tag is 10 dollars and a extra buck is 20. In some county you a get 4 does . Good luck
1 person, 1 buck tag! Lower the price of Antlerless permits, get rid of the base license fee, and allow baiting again. If the DNR wants to encourage more hunters, Make Hunting Affordable Again!
I can buy a lot of beef for the price of DNR tags and permits, and guns, bows, and ammo, etc.
Yes and unless you’re processing it yourself that’s gonna be $50-200+
Some of us still love to get in the woods and hunt
Please as your DNR officer about killing 2000 deer in Alpena county a few years ago. Dumping the purposes in a landfill in Ossineke and not telling to hunters about it. All on private property without the owners permission. Caught on trail cameras ! The deer heard is almost nonexistent now in our county.
Go to a 1 buck per season and lower all licenses costs (including non residents). If they want more venison
they can take a doe.
100% correct!!plus raise bag limits on antlerless deer.
The #1 problem with this is 2 fold. 1. I cannot believe hunters and legal analyst are not screaming about this move by the DNR. Since when is policy set by public opinion? I thought any change should be founded in SCIENTIFIC STUDY, not public opinion. 2. Hunters.... your michigan dnr purposely included ANTI HUNTERS in these decision making panels. When was the last time anti hunters welcomed hunters to policy forums when anti hunting groups formulate policy moving forward? The headline here should be " Woke MI DNR, caters to feelings, and opinions setting the table for yet another disasterous round of policies" Thankyou FOX 17 for posting this on RUclips. Seriously.
Why don't they just stock wolves downstate that will get rid of your deer problems sure worked in the U.P.
Do you vote Democrat? I mean wolves just kill deer - right? Not cows, dogs, chickens, pigs or other livestock.
They exist already but the DNR doesn’t want to acknowledge that. A hunter shot and killed one recently outside Kalamazoo.. and they wanted to charge him last I heard.
WHY ARE HUNTING #’s DOWN!?!?! MI had given hunters EVERYTHING!!! Seasons, tags, weapons, BAIT (again) & all of which has reduced the quality of the experience. It’s created a culture where anyone with any $ ties the land up to insulate from the insane regulations. Hunters have no where to go & where they do it sucks. I left MI 25 years ago & saddens me to this day how horrible that resource is managed. The kids & future deserve far better!!!! MIMIC just SOME of the regs of IN, OH, IA, etc!!!! What do u have to lose?!?
been saying that for years. falls on deaf ears!
Idk where ur living but ur not living in mi if you are you have ur own land to secretly bait baiting is illegal in mi an most parts of the up as well the only thing they added new for baiting wise is people are are veterans or disabled people can use bait on dependent hunts only during which those two type of people may use bait no one else is eligible for baiting so unless u own ur own land congrats on poaching lol
@@jethyperion-gi1yo better check out new regs on baiting ..its been legal in the Upper Peninsula with a 2 gal a day
a lot of people who lived in michigan all their life then changed their residence when they retired would still hunt in michigan if for no other reason to go to deer camp with friends. then the greedy state raised the license to 180 dollars for out of state people. so many just refused to hunt anymore. so the state is also out all the money people spend on other stuff related to hunting. also the young generation doesn't spend time outdoors like my generation. so you will see less and less people hunting.
That’s an asinine amount of money.
Our forefathers would not approve
I am that exact person you mentioned! Non-resident who only goes to camp for the camaraderie with kids who would rather go to school than take off a couple of days to come with me to camp! The Michigan democrats have succeeded in destroying one of the richest hunting states in our country!
West Michigan hunt year after year.Not seeing deer in the actual woods.Price goes up for tag...hmmm... no wonder less hunters.
Putting out bait does not hurt anything or cause problems. No common sense.
Notice how they show footage of deer inside a pen when they talk about the population is too high.
Yeah they need to do something ridiculous a lot of us hunters are about to throw in the towel and say to hell with it
Had a DNR officer walking around my house in the middle of a black out this week in full combat gear. Just to talk to me about a vacant lot next door to me. Scared the crap out of me. Why come to my house looking like you belong on the front lines in Ukraine? Not a way to start a friendly conversation.
Didn't give 2 shits about the vacant lot next to you
I've lived in Michigan my entire life and have been small game hunting a few times but have always wanted to go deer hunting. The main problem that I've encountered is that if you go to hunt on state land it's usually overcrowded if you can't make the drive up north and downstate it's usually private land that nobody will allow you on. I kind of feel like my hunting license is useless sometimes
There is not that many deer here in Michigan... Anything do they can make more money.. Doing way with our food source.
Well I guess we'll have to wait to find out what the changes are.
Yes, we need to wait for non-hunters to solve the hunting problems. This is your government at its finest.
Should have all laws for the year established by may or so, so the hunting rule book is accurate. No law changes after the book is printed. They do this occasionally with the fishing law and do not notify the public well enough.
Also, lets make bear/elk applications available in april so you dont have to renew fish in april and come back again in may for bear/elk apps.
Are they going to permit wolf hunting to allow deer populations to revive in the UP?
No, just continue to gaslight you and everyone else.
Yeah S.S.S !
The DNR ruined our railroad history.
Alcona County. Didn't see a deer until the third day and didn't want to shoot the only thing I saw during the hunt.
We have so many Coyotes, they have a 12 month season on the deer herd and everything else they eat. Going to stop planting food plots. All I'm doing is providing a more nutritious meal for the Coyotes.
Of course people bait! If one person in your area is baiting, that's where the deer head and you will sit and see nothing if you're not baiting as well.
“Too many deer” ???? Now if that isn’t fake news I don’t know what is!!!
DNR missed a great opportunity for Deer 🦌 control with youth Hunt years ago With Youth Hunt ! Should have been Doe only !
Too many overlapping fees, too many confusing rules and too much micromanaging BS. At this point many people are saying "why bother?"
Well with the DNR crying no one hunts anymore we dont have to.stick to 1950s and 60s rules.
My area is over run with dear, in the thumb. Often driving around you can see em groups of 20-30 about every mile in the fields. Kids are more into call of duty or mine craft these days (and schools don’t teach Hunter SAFTEY classes anymore)
Look no further than the state of Michigan DNR who has created this problem. The roller coaster ride of the suggestion booklet they put out every year, they are unable to create a competent management plan for the deer, herd in Michigan.
Maybe eliminate anti-hunting policies and anti 2A laws?
Legal and lawful are two different things, btw they are ramping up to do away with any natural food source…yah know for those who could survive without super markets.
Non-Resident hunter here who hunts in the U.P. on our family land near Curtis. I’m 51 and stopped buying a license 20 years ago after going 6 years without seeing a single deer. Pretty pathetic when you have a dead end camp and 2 miles from the nearest camp and can go 5 days without a single hoof print along that stretch! We still keep our deer camp tradition alive, but our children have given up hope.
I own two properties in Michigan. Paid 180 for a tag last fall and all I got was time in the woods. Wont be doing that this year!
I drive Northern Michigan every week and I never see gas station selling deer bait.
How about the DNR expand the hunting season?
My friends this year didn’t hunt because the state required every kill be registered through them that is government overreach.
It really gets my crawl that the government thinks they own every animal, every bird, every fish and regulates how many each citizen of the state is allowed. I thought the State residence are really owners of all the state land and yet their state regulates what you could do. We supposedly own it yet. We have to pay high licensing fees to even use it. A good example is having a recreation passport just to be able to launch your boat in a lake to fish that along with fishing license it’s ridiculous.
What i don't like is here in Marquette county the rules suck because being this far north we got predators that kill off a good portion of the deer heard,no chronic waste problems you down state should have no say in our hunting rules bunch of bull crap to regulate our hunts is all it is..
I totally agree I'm in the lower peninsula and the deer situations here and their should be managed separately. The DNR really is incompetent/waste of taxpayers and hunters and anglers money at best
Government is only here to poke the bear until it lunges at em and scurry away to come up with a new plan to enslave us further with out us realizing it. Ain't even about money, just power and making sure the majority don't have any.
I thought Michigan has a large wolf population that was hurting deer numbers.
The same people complaining about deer vehicle accidents are the same people complaining about hunting and gun ownership is a bad thing. Archery and firearms are a tool used in conservation efforts to manage certain populations of animals, in this case deer..... I've been hunting Michigan 30-plus years in Northern St Clair county public land as well as private with archery and firearm equipment and my and kids are also hunters but most of their friends are not due to their parents not allowing their children to be around firearms because they are "scary" according to the news media. For the past few decades the media has changed the communities point of view about the commonly used tools to harvest whitetail deer.... I believe hunting and politics don't mix but looking at the world we're living in now, the heritage and traditions will be lost.
I live in Arkansas. I wish we could send ya some. Our urban bow hunting. It's either sex no limit on deer. Beside urban hunting. U still get 6 deer tags. No more than 2 bucks statewide. So many deer around small towns in places.
Earn a buck second tag has to be the smartest thing I’ve ever heard come out of the dnr.
Itd be nice if they enforced some laws already on the books.
Not hard to find a treestand on state land out of season. Any property, any direction from the parking lot. Just follow the orange ribbons and bright eyes.
Some are even bold enough to leave their names affixed. 😂 Ya just gotta get out of the truck.
Why so there's no deer like in the upper peninsula
I will not tolerate a one buck rule. The only reason for that is to give crappy hunters a better chance. Two bucks with one required to be four points on one side is fine.
Lower the cost of doe tags. If you want the population reduced don't make us pay you for our service. Allow us to take doe for the entire month of January so we are not using our buck time. Limit special hunts to doe.
Stop forcing people to buy a rodent license in order to buy a deer tag.
Last, get out of the office and look around. The high deer numbers are in populated areas where we cannot hunt. That is your problem, not ours.
Understand. The number of hunters has not changed. A large part of the hunting population go elsewhere because they are sick of playing games with this state. That number will keep growing if morons remain in charge.
So if everybody quit hunting Michigan for couple years and stuck together (which will Never Happen) would that ease up on some restriction or would the world end?
Michigan replaced the head ofthe DNR with a political appointment with zero outdoor experience. Way to go gov. Whitmer. The very first thing this new DNR guy does is shut down coyote season for 3 months. I hate living in a blue state with anri-hunting on the agenda.
1) Lower the cost of license. 2) Allow baiting. 3) 1 buck rule for a period of time.
what a piss poor report. zero content.
In my area the deer population is down drastically. I use to see herds of deer, now I am lucky to see 4 or 5 in a group. Shameful. I won't even hunt deer because it is so bad here.
here in lapeer county i used to regularly have 20-30 at a time passing through my property, now the last 5-6 years maybe 2-3 at time....there are hardly ANY babies anymore, maybe 1 fawn, i used to see tons of them in the spring,also predators are gobbling a lot of the babies too...the numbers are WAY down around here. IMO they are WAY over hunted
The only silver lining is that eventually, the DNR will regulate themselves right out of a career.
I'm 45 years old. My car was taken out by a deer in Shiawassee County in April this year. Why don't you just give us a month and a half like bow hunting season, get rid of the stupid combo point crap and give every hunter a bag limit of 5-10 per person. Return it to the way it was in the 90's. Buck tags were 7 dollars and doe tags were 5 dollars. You didn't have to buy a "base" license because there wasn't one to begin with.
How about controlling the number of wolves in the upper peninsula.
I think everyone complaining about the price of a license needs to look at the cost in other syates
Michigan should be a 1 buck state! Take more does!
The deer go nocturnal right after bow hunting starts. Allowing night hunting would help this a lot.
I quit hunting when they banned baiting.
Urban bow hunting, start in my subdivision they’re like friggn squirrels!!! Did 9000 dollars damage to my compact SUV last year hitting one
We don’t need less population of deer we could use more which would make hunting more enjoyable. Also I guess the car insurance would push for less deer population because of the amount of deer and car collision that report.i could not get lower car insurance because they blame the deer. Less people in the woods is because more people see how small the deer population is from 25 years ago. And the cost to hunt all around
Nope.
Supreme Court just ruled.
Legislative branch creates laws, not branches of government.
Nope nope nope
Straight to the comments😂😂. Don’t forget land owners leasing there property’s for high $$$ and complain about deer eating profits then want block permits to get rid of them, makes as much sense as the DNR
I wonder why this state is looseing hunters maybe miss management of are deer by are DNR . They are more interested in how to bring in more money then are deer herd ......
Mi
Dnr suxxs ballz.
Too many deer not enough hunters? As a hunter I’ll say this. It’s not about hunters it’s about car insurance.
Sometimes it's not baiting, just feeding them on occasion... Too bad you view every instance criminally, it must suck to personally acquainted with you
Bureaucrat’s kids have the most beautiful teeth
That could be changed pretty easy but Americans are docile.
🎵 Hey...DNR leave those deer alone! 🎵
These new rules are SO SO WRONG and I know that there are people that agree with me and people that don't agree with my thoughts on this. First is the youth hunt the idea of the youth hunt is to get the kids off there phones off there computer and get excited about hunting and now your going to take away of there excitement of being able to shoot a buck. Not a good way to start buy taking that away. And to make it were you have to shoot a doe to get your 2nd buck tag I do not agree with having to shoot a doe and I know this is going to not go over well with everyone but I am 64 years old and grew up not shooting does and don't want to be forced to a way to word it now day's is it's against my beliefs. I know so will agree with me and some have different opinions I don't want to make a war out of this it is just my thought
I live out in the country and only ever see doe , and their babies. Sometimes a very small buck. Never a huge one like that and its been over 5 years 😂. I see deer every single night for the most part.
Been hunting this state my whole life. It gets worse every year. Quality of bucks is garbage. Waaaay to many doe’s. Not to mention letting crossguns in during archery season. Archery season is to short, needs to be from late Sept to Dec 1. Need to adopt the 1 buck a year tag (with antler restrictions) system. (AFTER YOU HARVEST AT LEAST 1 DOE) Then people will be more selective on what they shoot. Which means bigger/ older/ deer. Which in turn will bring more hunters for quality deer. Ban bating permanently!
They should make it 8 points or more, pour deer can't even grow up
Dnr are idiots that made hunting insanely expensive.
Why I don't do it anymore sadly I loved the sport but got tired of being on public land putting in a lot of time and money for only my tree stands to be stolen used with out asking as well my cameras being stolen
Lets hunt does year around on private property. Lower tag prices. Allow hunt from vehicles... there are too many deer!
Lol all them bucks are on a farm for sure lmao i never seen a bachelor group with that many racks
Lower the price on the licenses and people will take more
Bring back baiting!
The DNR is going to manage us right out of deer hunting . They never listen to whats best for deer hunting , its whats best for their pocket. There isnt a over population of deer its miss management. .........
Sadly ive quit hunting it is TOO EXPENSIVE TO BUY TAGS AND EQUIPMENT TO NOT GET ON ONE DEER OUR TIME AND EQUIPMENT IS TO EXPENSIVE AND TIME IS VALUABLE
Insurance companies 😂
There are too many deer, I know let's LIMIT the amount a Single Hunter can take in certain counties. Is that an effort to get the hunter over into other counties where there are more deer?
Hunters still bait because baiting bans are simply unconstitutional. I do support the changes to the buck tags.
Show me in the constitution where it says baiting is a protected right.🙄
Just introduce wolves to the lower peninsula. They have reduced the deer heard in the upper peninsula to less than half what it was thirty years ago.
One buck tag. One doe tag... ✔️ that's it...
STOP GOUGING THE HUNTER
Too much whining. Hunting is awesome. No baiting is making hunter success fair for all hunters. Plenty of doe tags.
Location is key. Without baiting, I can't even hunt my own property (10 acres, that butts up to another 250 acres of woods), I could hunt it, but it'd be pointless. The deer just aren't here.
Back when we could bait/feed, I might see 1 or 2 in daylight every couple of weeks.
How does a non elected entity have any right to make law?
Michigan legislators are useless Liberty hunt youth hunt all these hunts before the bow hunters even hit the woods is absolutely bull
Michigan deer hunting is a joke. Go out of state hunting once. It'll open your eyes
Same fools want to tear out dams that provide vital habitat for endangered species and provide the best fishing in the region.
DO NOTHING RIGHT...dnr
Give Bill Gates a call. It's all by design