Getting top 8 in Melee with Yoshi... sticking with Greninja despite the nerfs in Smash 4... He might not have gotten first in either games, but aMSa is the real Apex champ in my book.
With both of these i wanted to see his PM lucario but in my book everyones rooting for amsa hell even r/nintendo rooted for aMSa by changingg the banner to red yoshi. I really wished he beat mang0.
Zero Maverick His Lucario in PM is pretty insane too. It's crazy, no matter what Smash game he plays the coolest character in the coolest way possible. You can't help but admire the guy.
And losing two games against a yoshi player (even if it's amsa) and one of them in FD, with his main character which just happens to be the best in the game, probably didn't cheer him up either.
aMSa is such a sweetheart, and is tech skill is nearly unmatched. He just keeps getting better. Taking MaNg0 to 5 games?! Crazy. I'll always root for this guy for making a gem out of what was thought to be a nearly unusable character.
No matter how technical these Fox and Falco players are, it gets really really stale to see them after a while. Good thing we have people like aMSa to mix it up.
Great to see a video of that new up and comer Mabgo. really looks like he's been playing this game at the top level for years. can't wait to see him go up against people like Lebben, Mey2kong, GGmd, and Armda
Not to take anything away from Mango (who is obviously one of the all-time greats at this game), but it is a little frustrating watching Amsa have to work so hard to accomplish what Fox can do with a couple short combos and an upsmash.
aMSa could be top 5 if he were using Fox. His tech is on point and he knows how to play the game extremely well, but his character is holding him back. I don't even play melee, and I sure didn't say that I was better than aMSa.... so I don't know where you got the idea that I said I could play the way he does.
That doesn't invalidate any of my points. If he doesn't want to play a good character, fine. But you can't expect to be the best if you are using sub-par characters.
I was watching turndownforwalt's documentary on Apex 2015, and after watching the part on aMSa's tournament run, I HAD to come back and watch this set again after six years. Melee is sick.
First time I saw aMSa play, I don't know anything about him, but seeing him smile and laugh and give mango a hug after he lost, and then getting cheered by the crowd. I have no words to describe it well, I just felt really happy to witness such a positive atmosphere. There was no loser this match. Expecting a lot from aMSa in the future, he seems like a really friendly guy!
do you mean what does your nationality have to do with that? lol Well most ppl would be like naw. I'm born in this particular place so matter what I cheer on this particular team but not me. lol That yoshi is way to good with them tech skills so forget america. I'm bout to move to Japan (^.^)/ lmao xD
Superxyzpower actually i enjoy what i enjoy and not whats from my nation. ofc you somewhat hold on to your nation but nation is an arificial border :D.
BuGGyBoBerl lol you right thou. In the end it's just two ppl playin a game an borders are just mental constructs that ppl use to make the difference between the 2 seem...well different lol when in reality thas not really the case lol. Either way I was going for amsa cuz the yoshi..like thas bout it. If he played for america an mango went for japan,sure enough i woulda still be routin for america lol you get the point thou nuff said lol xD
This is exactly how I wanted the match to play out. I didn't want Mango to lose, but I also really wanted amsa to give him a run for his money. I walk away from this match knowing Mango won, but thinking about sick Yoshi combos.
aMSa's Yoshi is too smooth. All those wavelands on platforms, the shield drops, not to mention the light-shields. This guy's tech-skill is simply godly.
iSonicPhoton Yeah, he used to do it more, not too much anymore in bracket. He used to be the only Yoshi you would see from what I can remember. He's also like the one guy aMSa faces that actually knows Yoshi's tricks
This was such an incredible set. You could show this to someone that knows next to nothing about melee and they would still get some seriously positive vibes from this. That hug. That chant.
Yoshi coming this close to the cheap overused fox is pretty scary. Amsa is so talented. Great set gg mango! Mango shows his knowledge at the game very well.
David Chun He does take years to master, but he has far too many options to not be considered at least a little unfair. The fact that Armada is dropping PEach for Fox just shows Fox is too good for others to keep up. Shiek may be easy to play, but a Good Shiek is almost always worse than a good Fox
I love how aMSa wrote "JPN!" for his name in response to Mang0's "USA!", and then you see Europeans getting all pissy when the crowd was singing the national anthem during Mang0 and Leffens game at Apex 2014, saying that it made Leffen "uncomfortable" and stuff. Be like aMSa :D
aMSa's movement during this match was insane. Apex 2015 has some of the hypest moments I've ever seen in Melee - top 8 EVERYONE was on point. (Except Mang0. He just looks dog tired.)
Just a random thought but. Think about how fast stocks would go by in Melee without DI. It'd just look like sped up Smash 64 ( There's DI in that one too but think about how hard the characters hit compared to other iterations)
Amsa is really awesome, seems like he's getting better and better. I was literally mouth wide open when he was bodying mango, especially on final destination
DAMN!! AMSA NO FEAR!! This dude is Epic with Yoshi! He may've not gotten the championship with Yoshi, but he damn sure can fight! And what a guy Mango was showing respect to aMSa at the end giving him a good pat on the back and all. That's a sign of sportsmanship and knowing that he fought his hardest. Fantastic match with both Players! Really got me hyped!
From what I see, when Fox shines on stage, a really good option is to let yourself get pushed back and just fall of the stage and go into edge-guard, if you're close enough to the edge and gets pushed off with one shine. Not sure on the frames but wouldn't you fall off stage before Fox can catch you with UP+A? Seems viable if it is.
You should always try to DI away from getting shined anyway, not in. Meaning people sometimes get shined off the stage if they're close enough. It's not like a real strategy or whatever, since that's usually what happens anyway. As far as the frames, it just depends on the distance from the ledge, the character's weight, and the Fox's tech skill to waveshine properly/perfectly.
+Adam Ridgeway even TAS perfect egg stalling still leaves a frame of vulnerability, so you can just use a move like bair that hits through the egg and clip yoshi on the edge. That's why Amsa doesnt time people out with it. He just throws a few eggs to get them away and then gets on safely before they try to navigate to the ledge. as far as the reflector goes, it's usable, but when the eggs hit the ground they "pop" and the explosion has a hitbox that can't be reflected, so if he spaces the eggs perfectly Mango would still get hit. You can't really do that against a moving target, but if mango were to just sit in his shine and wait he'd prolly take some percent.
Forget balls of steel, aMSa's got eggs of steel to go up against Fox! Mad props to ya aMSa. Even though you lost, you damn sure put up a hell of a fight! You're a winner in my book
Mango straight up put started him in the last match. He went full camp mode on a stage that forces the players to constantly change the stage setup. Mean yoshis egg camp was harder, but foxes Lazer camp wasn't
Amsa is such a nice guy. You can feel he was a little upset at the end. But unlike other Player he isn't a salty bitch. Like normaly everyone cheers for mango. But this time everyone was rooting for amsa.
In my opinion, aMSa is one of the best players in existence. The insanely technical things he can do and the way he thinks about the game are incredible. AND HE PLAYS YOSHI. He is the perfect Smash player :)
13:15 he makes it sound as if aMSa is a bad player who should have had no chance. It is an upset, this is Mang0. But this is by no means something that could never happen, aMSa has been top knotch forever. every match you see him lose, its damn close. He will win someday!
I've had this game since release. I just learned wavedashing and L-canceling. Suddenly this game feels like I just got a GC again. I love 4 just for the amount of characters. But this game got a lot better now. Kek
It turns out you can set your username to a random sentence so that is exactly what I have done What about the entire crowd cheering when Leffen does badly?
Rare footage of people cheering against Mang0
They would be cheering against anyone if one was a top tier, and the other was a mid-tier.
+Preston Conrad dam I wanted amsa to win
+Preston Conrad Except scumbag Florida.
OLE OLE OLE ole OLE ole OLE OLE OLE ole
+Preston Conrad not really; pretty much everyone loves mango, to the extent that they will cheer for him while he's playing against mid tiers and low
Getting top 8 in Melee with Yoshi... sticking with Greninja despite the nerfs in Smash 4... He might not have gotten first in either games, but aMSa is the real Apex champ in my book.
With both of these i wanted to see his PM lucario but in my book everyones rooting for amsa hell even r/nintendo rooted for aMSa by changingg the banner to red yoshi. I really wished he beat mang0.
Zero Maverick His Lucario in PM is pretty insane too. It's crazy, no matter what Smash game he plays the coolest character in the coolest way possible. You can't help but admire the guy.
He knocked Ally out of Sm4sh before top 12, not even top 8. This man thinks differently in a good way
GoldenboyMatt27 Yo i don't see him pulling out melee roy, the coolest cucumber in the game.
jake daniels Leave that to Sethlon. lol
In the year 20xx everyone will main Fox, except aMSa, he'll still be playing Yoshi
In the year 20eggseggs, everyone will be maining Yoshi.
And Hbox, who'll be playing Jiggs.
Both said on twitter they're not going to change chars.
And Ken will still be playing red Marth...
Mario Diaz Lol funny you mention that ... I think Ken said on his twitter he was having urges to play Fox. I, unfortunately, do not have a link.
Even Armada won't even touch peach anymore.
if you look closely you can still see the depression in mangos eyes from losing to leffen
***** The Dark Lord is rising coming back, instead of harassing scrubs he's killing gods.
as much as i think leffen is a bitch i have to admit he is getting better
Some nice johns for mango there
***** Watch the Mang0 post-Apex interview, he gave no johns
And losing two games against a yoshi player (even if it's amsa) and one of them in FD, with his main character which just happens to be the best in the game, probably didn't cheer him up either.
The first time the crowd didn't root for Mango lol
Yoshi is freaking hype
Shit gets real when aMSa and Abate plays
@@ankarar LOL exactly, I was gonna say Abate too.
I love the AmsA chant at the end:) warms my soul.
For those who don't know, aMSa actually plays green Yoshi. He just likes to bathe in space animal blood.
JPN! tag to counter the USA! is so cute. aMSa is the man. Hope we get to see plenty more of him in the future.
Looking back at this video and this comment, it's so inspiring to see aMSa as #8 in the world.
@@e50013 back again, he's #6!
@@iMacxXuserXx485 And to add, he won a Major. I'll be back when he's rank #1.
anotha one
The way aMSa plays is actually pure poerty
aMSa is such a sweetheart, and is tech skill is nearly unmatched. He just keeps getting better. Taking MaNg0 to 5 games?! Crazy. I'll always root for this guy for making a gem out of what was thought to be a nearly unusable character.
No matter how technical these Fox and Falco players are, it gets really really stale to see them after a while. Good thing we have people like aMSa to mix it up.
+TheLastSliceOfPie I disagree. Fox and Falco are so awesome and timeless. I am definitely happy about Yoshi making a comeuppance.
+TheLastSliceOfPie I'm with you. Seeing someone follow through with what they see is better when it's uncommon.
+TheLastSliceOfPie I don't know, all I ever see are spacies as far the eye can see nowadays, so change is good once in a while.
TheLastSliceOfPie I wouldn't say it gets stale, but it's always really fun to see something weird.
Great to see a video of that new up and comer Mabgo. really looks like he's been playing this game at the top level for years.
can't wait to see him go up against people like Lebben, Mey2kong, GGmd, and Armda
Not to take anything away from Mango (who is obviously one of the all-time greats at this game), but it is a little frustrating watching Amsa have to work so hard to accomplish what Fox can do with a couple short combos and an upsmash.
That's what you get for playing a bad character.
vezonf3nrak I'd love to see you try what amsa did here. No such thing as a bad character.
aMSa could be top 5 if he were using Fox. His tech is on point and he knows how to play the game extremely well, but his character is holding him back. I don't even play melee, and I sure didn't say that I was better than aMSa.... so I don't know where you got the idea that I said I could play the way he does.
I'm pretty sure theres a reason why he doesnt play top tiers to begin with
That doesn't invalidate any of my points. If he doesn't want to play a good character, fine. But you can't expect to be the best if you are using sub-par characters.
Amsa is such an incredible player. The way he makes his little yoshi teleport between the platforms with that brilliant wave-landing is just scary!
I was watching turndownforwalt's documentary on Apex 2015, and after watching the part on aMSa's tournament run, I HAD to come back and watch this set again after six years. Melee is sick.
aMSa didn't place outside of the Gods. He placed *with* the Gods. Hungrybox also god 5th, and he placed higher than Mew2King.
Gotta love aMSa, man. Win or lose, he just looks happy to be alive and playing Smash.
First time I saw aMSa play, I don't know anything about him, but seeing him smile and laugh and give mango a hug after he lost, and then getting cheered by the crowd.
I have no words to describe it well, I just felt really happy to witness such a positive atmosphere. There was no loser this match. Expecting a lot from aMSa in the future, he seems like a really friendly guy!
12:12 that was one hell of a Slobbernocker. Just both of them trading blow after blow.
Im american but I honeslty wanted amsa to win just because he's using a yoshi xD
You and everyone else on here.
Superxyzpower what has your nationality to do with that? ^^
do you mean what does your nationality have to do with that? lol Well most ppl would be like naw. I'm born in this particular place so matter what I cheer on this particular team but not me. lol That yoshi is way to good with them tech skills so forget america. I'm bout to move to Japan (^.^)/ lmao xD
Superxyzpower
actually i enjoy what i enjoy and not whats from my nation. ofc you somewhat hold on to your nation but nation is an arificial border :D.
BuGGyBoBerl lol you right thou. In the end it's just two ppl playin a game an borders are just mental constructs that ppl use to make the difference between the 2 seem...well different lol when in reality thas not really the case lol. Either way I was going for amsa cuz the yoshi..like thas bout it. If he played for america an mango went for japan,sure enough i woulda still be routin for america lol you get the point thou nuff said lol xD
This is exactly how I wanted the match to play out. I didn't want Mango to lose, but I also really wanted amsa to give him a run for his money. I walk away from this match knowing Mango won, but thinking about sick Yoshi combos.
"Not bad."
The guy is a Yoshi player and he's taking games off of arguably the greatest Melee player of all time. He's *not bad?*
He's amazing.
That Amsa chant at the end.. Beautiful
Eggs are a good source of protein
Mabgo, the b stands for buster
You have the best username on the internet
lol
Mann. Amsa could have won this set if he closed out game 2 properly. He's so close to being able to beat mango as well
Its hard to say. if he won game 2, Mango would get his counter picks earlier
+Just Ryan Yeah but his counter pick was FD which Amsa beat him on lol.
0:41 Double nose wipe confirmed.
WOW MABGO IS SUCH A GOOD PLAYER... WHO IS THIS MANGO GUY THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT?
You finally did it, Amsa 2022!!!!! Big House 10!!!
5:28 STOOP KID'S AFRAID TO LEAVE HIS STOOP
SHOUTOUTS TO HEY ARNOLD
I've seen this guy's Yoshi prolly 30 times now and the parries still blow my mind. I can't even do it against a level 3 CPU.
at 0:40... that perfectly synchronized forehead wipe/glasses adjustment
LOL
aMSa's Yoshi is too smooth. All those wavelands on platforms, the shield drops, not to mention the light-shields. This guy's tech-skill is simply godly.
Those goddamn wavelands by amsa. Holy shit.
here just before The Big House 10
Mabgo didn't stand a chance! :D
Oh wait! He won?
Why is Lucario so red and Link looks like a spacie? Kappa
Unfunny joke
I see what you did there.
I don't get it
Serge vs Darkfall
CP Adagio Holy shit I've seen you in so many places
So happy that this was finally uploaded. Everyone should see this.
Congrats Mr. Red Yoshi
He is the strongest Yoshi in the world definitely.
No shit.
No Yoshi is anywhere near aMSa. Not even Leffen
TheFlyingCule Lolwut Leffen plays Yoshi?
iSonicPhoton
Yeah, he used to do it more, not too much anymore in bracket. He used to be the only Yoshi you would see from what I can remember. He's also like the one guy aMSa faces that actually knows Yoshi's tricks
VectorMan plays a mean Yoshi too. Never knew Leffen did though.
This was such an incredible set. You could show this to someone that knows next to nothing about melee and they would still get some seriously positive vibes from this. That hug. That chant.
Still one of my all time favorite matches to watch.
5:58 one of the best tafostats ever
the interaction at 2:47 is kinda sweet lol. mang0 lost in thought , amsa catches him off guard and he smiles.
12:00 so fking awesome i wish i could play yoshi like that
That sd meteor by aMSa in game 4 was amazing!
20EggsEggs
Armada has a Yoshi? Wut
They accidently said Armada instead of aMSa at some point in the commentary
+Kai Nickelson that would be you, buddy
+BonemanCharles Fuck off
Kai Nickelson nah
+BonemanCharles ok then
Yoshi coming this close to the cheap overused fox is pretty scary. Amsa is so talented. Great set gg mango! Mango shows his knowledge at the game very well.
agreed!
Fox is good but is not cheap he takes years to master unlike smash 4 diddy and melee sheik
David Chun I would agree if he didn't have shine. Shine is what pushes him into "cheap" for me. It's too useful.
David Chun
He does take years to master, but he has far too many options to not be considered at least a little unfair. The fact that Armada is dropping PEach for Fox just shows Fox is too good for others to keep up. Shiek may be easy to play, but a Good Shiek is almost always worse than a good Fox
If u think fox is cheap, then u obviously have never played melee lol
Title says Mabgo instead of Mango, so I had trouble finding it using youtube search.
I'm interested to see more of this newcomer Mabgo.
The camera on the commentators was 2015. The camera on Mango and aMSa was 2006.
I think Yoshi has the worst grab in the game, him or Ness, but with Ness if he grabs you he can backthrow you which kills very early
if you jump cancel his grab its not bad. but I get what your saying.
+trey fawley if you jump cancel yoshi's grab, it is actually slower and shorter.
+Jimmy no I was referring to ness.
marth has a better grabeedeeeeeskskaosos
Crazy how marths grab has a longer range than yoshi's and is way safer
aMSa aMSa!!! Dude is raw, he was superb in this match-up.
I love how aMSa wrote "JPN!" for his name in response to Mang0's "USA!", and then you see Europeans getting all pissy when the crowd was singing the national anthem during Mang0 and Leffens game at Apex 2014, saying that it made Leffen "uncomfortable" and stuff. Be like aMSa :D
Man, AMSa makes me so happy. Such a relaxed guy and always smiling
Wuss who hides behind Fox
VS
Wuss who throws eggs from the ledge.
Now all we need is Zero.
wat
Found it funny that aMSa has the JPN! tag along with the Mango's USA! tag.
This is still one of the most lit ass sets and my favorite melee tournament in the past few years.
Am I the only one who realizes that it says Mabgo
It's amazing how people can get so good at this.
Love watching this set over and over again
aMSa's movement during this match was insane. Apex 2015 has some of the hypest moments I've ever seen in Melee - top 8 EVERYONE was on point. (Except Mang0. He just looks dog tired.)
Just a random thought but. Think about how fast stocks would go by in Melee without DI. It'd just look like sped up Smash 64 ( There's DI in that one too but think about how hard the characters hit compared to other iterations)
Amsa is really awesome, seems like he's getting better and better. I was literally mouth wide open when he was bodying mango, especially on final destination
DAMN!! AMSA NO FEAR!! This dude is Epic with Yoshi! He may've not gotten the championship with Yoshi, but he damn sure can fight! And what a guy Mango was showing respect to aMSa at the end giving him a good pat on the back and all. That's a sign of sportsmanship and knowing that he fought his hardest. Fantastic match with both Players! Really got me hyped!
From what I see, when Fox shines on stage, a really good option is to let yourself get pushed back and just fall of the stage and go into edge-guard, if you're close enough to the edge and gets pushed off with one shine. Not sure on the frames but wouldn't you fall off stage before Fox can catch you with UP+A? Seems viable if it is.
You should always try to DI away from getting shined anyway, not in. Meaning people sometimes get shined off the stage if they're close enough. It's not like a real strategy or whatever, since that's usually what happens anyway. As far as the frames, it just depends on the distance from the ledge, the character's weight, and the Fox's tech skill to waveshine properly/perfectly.
And now Asma won TBH10 !!
Congrats Apex2022
This probably doesn't work, but can Mango punish Yoshi's egg barrage with the Shine's (ahem) intended use?
+Adam Ridgeway even TAS perfect egg stalling still leaves a frame of vulnerability, so you can just use a move like bair that hits through the egg and clip yoshi on the edge. That's why Amsa doesnt time people out with it. He just throws a few eggs to get them away and then gets on safely before they try to navigate to the ledge.
as far as the reflector goes, it's usable, but when the eggs hit the ground they "pop" and the explosion has a hitbox that can't be reflected, so if he spaces the eggs perfectly Mango would still get hit. You can't really do that against a moving target, but if mango were to just sit in his shine and wait he'd prolly take some percent.
Shine's really laggy when it reflects.
Wow that came down to the wire..
Human Potato
close enough
Human Potato game 5 is down to the wire
Forget balls of steel, aMSa's got eggs of steel to go up against Fox! Mad props to ya aMSa. Even though you lost, you damn sure put up a hell of a fight! You're a winner in my book
Amsa, please never stop playing melee, you are a genius!
Mango straight up put started him in the last match. He went full camp mode on a stage that forces the players to constantly change the stage setup. Mean yoshis egg camp was harder, but foxes Lazer camp wasn't
5:03 What the hell did Fox hit?? It didn't look like there was anything there to tech!
FreakinSweet1987 he still had a jump, it was a meteor cancel
This is got to be the greatest game I've ever seen
When did Mango get so many tattoos?
The yoshi in the thumbnail looks like a slugma
They mentioned ntsc. Does it make a difference?
+Jay Sean fox was nerfed in pal and yoshi got buffed.
+Jose Mendoza yeah PAL Yoshi hard counters both spacies, Falcon, Peach, Puff, and soft counters Marth and Shiek, this is according to Leffen tho
That double jump cancel nair to win the third game was fast safe and smart. 9:20
Amsa is such a nice guy. You can feel he was a little upset at the end. But unlike other Player he isn't a salty bitch. Like normaly everyone cheers for mango. But this time everyone was rooting for amsa.
lol why does Mango keep jumping into Amsa's fully charged upsmashes? mind games tho
That Fugees reference at 12:15, love it!!
In my opinion, aMSa is one of the best players in existence. The insanely technical things he can do and the way he thinks about the game are incredible. AND HE PLAYS YOSHI. He is the perfect Smash player :)
The aMSa chant makes me so happy :)
Amsa just goes straight in really Agro playing. It's amazing
Amsa Big house 10 champion !!
Bookends.
Amsa is my favorite ssbm player. Took m2ks spot in my heart
13:15 he makes it sound as if aMSa is a bad player who should have had no chance. It is an upset, this is Mang0. But this is by no means something that could never happen, aMSa has been top knotch forever. every match you see him lose, its damn close. He will win someday!
Well up to this point this is the furthest a Yoshi has gotten to beating mangoes Fox, so I guess it was kind of a surprise for everybody.
Is it just me that sees it says mabgo in the title not mango
I've had this game since release. I just learned wavedashing and L-canceling. Suddenly this game feels like I just got a GC again. I love 4 just for the amount of characters. But this game got a lot better now. Kek
Can we move Yoshi from B tier to A tier now?
How do you misspell Mango?
its mang0
That same fucking guy who whistles whenever Mango does badly needs to be banned from all future majors
It turns out you can set your username to a random sentence so that is exactly what I have done What about the entire crowd cheering when Leffen does badly?
الله أكبر That's not what I mean, the guy was whistling in disapproval of aMSa, it wasn't cheering
الله أكبر Your picture is scary as shit
Yeah it's pretty great isn't it.
الله أكبر Wtf is it from?
Ams a just seems like like a cool down to earth guy.
5:29 , lol some guy yelling stoop kid afraid to leave his stoop, while amsa is throwing eggs from ledge.
This Mabgo guy is pretty good
*Reads title* Who the Hell is Mabgo? Kappa
amsa vs scar civil war, who is the people's champ?