A lot of crazily timed parry’s in there. The announcers thought they were just “misses” or double jump armor but many of them were parry’s. What a beast!
Japan second best player is a Marth player named Rudolph, at one point one was a top 5 Marth. Hates the Yoshi MU and that was before aMSa got good on FD. Also Yoshi can parry Marth's grab if you didn't notice it just missing. Yoshi is really just Marth's worst MU if they know how to parry. Also Zain was playing too fast for the MU, a slower Marth is harder to Parry.
@@Chiplinkedit’s definitely not 6-4 but i think saying the top 3 yoshis beating the top 3 marths isn’t it either. i still think it’s at best even for yoshi but that’s saying something with how bad yoshi’s matchup spread is against the other top tiers
@@tremen151 I mean I definitely agree with you. It wasn’t a great example I used, but I did say that there MAY be an argument then. Realistically, a lot of matchups come down to theory and, in my opinion, this MU is probably 60/40 or 55/45 Marth. Gotta give credit to aMSa though - he has outplayed Zain in the past 4-5 sets they’ve played and he genuinely does make the MU look tough to win in.
I hate this "people haven't figured out amsa" mentality, he has been playing meele for 10+ years and won some shit just recently, if it was a "mu inexperience" issue he'd be winning shit since years ago
Amsa have one advantage that no one else has... He is the only high level Yoshi in the world. So He can practice with high level opponents, get new tacts and xp but their opponents can't. Yoshi's biggest weakness is actually the biggest advantage in a world filled with endless Fox, Mars and Falcos
I wonder if the Ultimate content has been worth (although I don't think it was the only or main reason he didn't win this tournament). He's made I think more than 1000 subs since he started playing Ultimate, and his stream has been doing super well in general.
@@user-gp6lq5mg9z Mango played great no doubt. But let's not pretend that Zain messed up over 10 chain grabs in FD, missed multiple edge guards that he always hits & just dropped so many classic combos. All I'm saying is playing 2 games with different mechanics is tough as hell!
What a Japanese thing to do. Go to a foreign land to compete and eventually become the top player in another culture's niche competitive past time. Edit: By the way I love Japan! What an interesting place. I want to visit someday when I get the money and courage to.
A lot of crazily timed parry’s in there. The announcers thought they were just “misses” or double jump armor but many of them were parry’s. What a beast!
Amsa is so disciplined it’s unreal
Several Yoshi players have been saying for ages that Yoshi beats Marth. I called them mad, but they might be onto something here.
Japan second best player is a Marth player named Rudolph, at one point one was a top 5 Marth. Hates the Yoshi MU and that was before aMSa got good on FD. Also Yoshi can parry Marth's grab if you didn't notice it just missing. Yoshi is really just Marth's worst MU if they know how to parry.
Also Zain was playing too fast for the MU, a slower Marth is harder to Parry.
Amsa's English has improved just as much as his game that man is locked in.
Good for aMsa!
Amsa continues to farm Zain 😂
I get so nervous for aMSa whenever I see aMSa facing Zain. I need to get in touch with reality lmfao 😂
Cody farms both.
@@fupalover Mang0 farms Cody.
@@user-x2y2x Cody has more major wins L
“His pillow is creased”
I thought they said greased lmfao
Zain is now fully poisoned
That ultimate practice is really paying off!
Yep the answer is Roy.
He should really play another character in Ulitmate to avoid it affecting his Melee. Roy still is too similar to Marth probably.
I posted something similar on the Mango vs Zain match as a joke and I got the some comments lol
You know Zain has lost to Amsa before right?
@@fupalover Amsa has a winning record lifetime infact and a 6 set win streak
I wanna say that was a rare case of _"enough, too late"_ from Zain. If he plays the whole time like he was the 2nd half of game 3, he can win.
That last stock was one of the most intense last stocks I've seen in a long time
It was insane for real
"Yoshi-Marth is 6-4 and that's ok"
Marth definitely wins lmao. If the top 3 yoshis were beating the top 3 Marths then there may be an argument
@@Chiplinkedit’s definitely not 6-4 but i think saying the top 3 yoshis beating the top 3 marths isn’t it either. i still think it’s at best even for yoshi but that’s saying something with how bad yoshi’s matchup spread is against the other top tiers
Nah watch Amsa Vs kodorin at this tournament. Kodorin made it look terrible for Yoshi and Amsa only won because he's a better player
@@tremen151 I mean I definitely agree with you. It wasn’t a great example I used, but I did say that there MAY be an argument then. Realistically, a lot of matchups come down to theory and, in my opinion, this MU is probably 60/40 or 55/45 Marth.
Gotta give credit to aMSa though - he has outplayed Zain in the past 4-5 sets they’ve played and he genuinely does make the MU look tough to win in.
amsa says yoshi marth is 45-55
Amsa has some of the best defense in the game. Probably top 3 of all time.
Yoshi's weight is crazy, 108 making him the 5th heaviest character, ahead of captain falcon and right below ganondorf
Amsa playing hot asf
When was the last time he didn't?
I hate this "people haven't figured out amsa" mentality, he has been playing meele for 10+ years and won some shit just recently, if it was a "mu inexperience" issue he'd be winning shit since years ago
Thats my ultimate player
Amsa have one advantage that no one else has... He is the only high level Yoshi in the world. So He can practice with high level opponents, get new tacts and xp but their opponents can't. Yoshi's biggest weakness is actually the biggest advantage in a world filled with endless Fox, Mars and Falcos
He's also really fkin good that probably helps
Zain was so close both games :(
On his counter pick to be fair
which sets did Armada commentate?
outside some random sets on the quad stream he should've been on comms for Top 4, so Losers Semis, Losers Finals, Winners Finals, and Grands.
@@guardianeb6566I appreciate this comment so much cause it’s not only nice it didn’t spoil the matches by saying who’s in em
Zain vs Axe Tipped Off 15 Quad Stream RUclips Link: ruclips.net/video/qA6-yRFP5iw/видео.html
thanks brother was looking just for that when it was mention
Honestly, it seems like kodorin does better against the high/mid tiers than zain does. With zain being better against the top tiers
Zain played too fast which makes the Parry timings easier, I don't think he delayed any grab either.
Getting 6-0'd in top 8 as the favorite just goes to show you if you don't practice and you play Smash Ultimate it's gonna be rough.
maybe but he lost to amsa, probably zains worst matchup and mango who won the whole thing and played hotter than he has in years
Damn this comment just ruined the whole tournament for me 😩
I wonder if the Ultimate content has been worth (although I don't think it was the only or main reason he didn't win this tournament). He's made I think more than 1000 subs since he started playing Ultimate, and his stream has been doing super well in general.
@@robg6501 it's definitely worth. He's building his channel and network. I fully support and love Zain content!
@@user-gp6lq5mg9z Mango played great no doubt. But let's not pretend that Zain messed up over 10 chain grabs in FD, missed multiple edge guards that he always hits & just dropped so many classic combos. All I'm saying is playing 2 games with different mechanics is tough as hell!
Yoshi certainly has a winning matchup against Marth, especially if the Marth plays more agile and offensively since parries are easier.
Been about a year since I watched smash - what happened to zain? He use to be so precise. Looks lost here.
Is this stude, dogy, walt combo fckn 🔥 on the mikes?
I love watching amsa play he’s just insane with the dino
Amsa is the best smash player alive. Love ya, man
Yoshi makes Marth look like Roy.
Great match
AMSA my goat!!!!
What a Japanese thing to do. Go to a foreign land to compete and eventually become the top player in another culture's niche competitive past time.
Edit: By the way I love Japan! What an interesting place. I want to visit someday when I get the money and courage to.
Where the spoiler block at? Here, I guess.
I think Kola kinda ruined Zain’s momentum.
Zain just can’t beat Yoshi man, Amsa is just too good.
Ultimate suffering
yay
This might be the 2nd worse MU in the game…
Behind Fox vs Marth of course
melee commentary is boring AF, i watch so many matches on mute
Imma fix this 🙏🏾 promise✊🏾
Ult poisoning in its affect 🧪
effect**