Richard King Scraping Class, Florida, 2020
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2020
- I attended my second Richard King Scraping Class, put on by King Way Scraping Consultants. This class was held in Santa Rosa Beach Florida. There I continued my training on the art and skill of hand and power scraping. While there I scraped one of my 24" straight edges, and started on a second. I also share some footage of Abby learning how to turn a wooden bowl in Al Christopher's wood shop. I had a great time there and improved my basic scraping skills.
Richard puts on several classes a year. Check his website handscraping.com for more info on future classes.
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Adam, I would love to know how your shaper's ways were scraped using an industrial process originally. Your shaper's ways have perfect little triangle scrap patterns on them, and I think it would make a great video talking about how scraping is done on a large scale.
Love it how a tradesman can go back and upgrade his skills to be a better tradesman, shows quality and professionalism. Thanks Adam.
These guys are amazing teachers. This is how things are passed down, by guys who can take the time teach. Love it.
Abby you have got the touch! Beautiful bowl.
I learned how to scrape about 47 years ago, and did attain my "Master" rating. At least, scrapers used to have master ratings 'back in the day'. My Master proofjob was scraping together three worn out 24"x18" iron flat plates, via the Whitworth system. It took quite a while. I could only work on them for an hour every day. I used scrapping blue, then red lead for the rubs. I believe red lead is outlawed now a days.
When I was done, I could have put a dime anywhere on any one of the plates, drawn a circle around it, flicked the dime aside, and counted a minimum of 10 points of contact in the circle.
My plates were certified at the local Bureau of Standards field lab. The report came back that the largest deviation was
Mazak still scrapes in mating castings. I worked in their alignment department for a while and that was one of the coolest jobs I ever had. I've heard that Mori, and Okuma both scrape too.
Afterward, they still do 3 sets of 2 axis controller offsets to bring the squares into something like a 10 millionths, but the real physical squares are more like 0.0001" over a ft, which is alright.
As I understand it, HAAS doesn't scrap at all. So, their squares are all hogwash.
As we know, you simply cannot machine everything into tolerance. Hand working is required on some things.
Go Abby, as a life long woodworker and a wood turner welcome to the wood lathe, Perhaps a lathe of your own is in the future!
Way to go Abby ! I was a little bitty boy when my Dad stood me on a Coke crate at the wood lathe, showed be the basics, and told me to go to town. I made a candlestick that had every contour, groove, and feature I could muster. It was ...... Awful. I gave it to my Grandma and it sat proudly on her mantle for 30 years.
As a child, my dad told me of his apprentice days back in the steel mills where this was a task they assigned him. Working from flat to flatter to flatter still...So cool to see it in action! Thank you for sharing!
Awesome work Abby. Would love to see you do more. Excellent work on the scrapping Adam, keep up the good work
Very cool!
And well done Abby! Beautiful bowl.
Thanks, and the Booth trio always make me smile at the end.
The bowl was really exceptional. Great grain patterns in it. I think there's room in the new garage for a wood shop...
Congrats Abby. Great to see you
Enjoy yourself and how gracious of your host to teach her something new while you were in class. Awesome.
I've learned a lot just watching you scrape. That wood bowl is awesome!
Hi Adam, thanks for the great video. I have been turning logs since I was 11...going on 56 now. I really need an Abom size headset and chuck set up made. I live and work in Northern Ontario, Canada and have moved all my equipment up here from the South over a couple of years. Watch Abby doesn't get hooked or you be hand grinding her new knifes for her:)
That's so awsome abby and Adam. It makes me so happy to see you guys learning and experiencing new things. Also it is so cool to see some gray beards showing there skills to others
We had three old Makino lathes that we retooled and recontrolled and the factory sent four techs to complete the work. I have never seen scraping like the Japanese do it. They have their scrapers with these padded extensions on the end and they put them against there hips and rotate their entire bodies to scrape. It's the same motion as a hula hoop. And when they made the first roughing pass, they were rolling huge shavings that turned blue and smoked. It was insane. I was fascinated watching them. One of them spoke English and he said that is how they're taught. By using their bodies rather than their upper bodies like we normally do makes them able to work longer and more efficiently. Now, when they got to the end and were just fine tuning it, they made very light scrapes with just their upper bodies.
I think I've seen someone else doing that. Gotteswinter I think.
That's the original way to scrape, is with the padded end on the end of the scrapper against the hip bone and use the body to provide the force to scrape, with the downward pressure of the hand or even fingertips controlling the depth and pitch of the cut. That's how we used to scrape the 34 foot long flat and "V" ways on the planers and large mills.
@@keithdavis4649 Ah. So it's not just a Japanese thing, Thanks for the input.
Congratulations on your bowl, Abby! It looks great! :)
You have my respect as a machinist, and a great man! I will always be here to watch your endeavor to continue learning machining and machine process and everything else you do! Love your channel and I love being here to learn.
yay abby,that is a beautiful result.
Thanks Adam and Abby for sharing this good experience and knowledge with us,much appreciation and respect,coming all the way from,Trinidad and Tobago,a Caribbean country,God bless y'all.
Its awesome to see some younger guys getting involved in the trade. It wont be too long before all the skilled old timers will be retiring and we need more young people to take their place.
Great video as usual.
Thank God he is doing this. Otherwise it would be a lost art here in this country.
Looks like a great time, and great learning !! 👌🏽👍🏽 great bowl too, Abby 👍🏽👍🏽
Abby was just beaming with pride showing you her bowl. Yep I see a wood lathe in your future. Great job Abby
NOW, we know what he built that new shed for... Abby's new wood shop!!!
Thanks for the video Adam & Abby. Well done Abby. Nice to see you making. Good looking bowl
You are fortunate to have a partner who is enthusiastic about learning, as much as you do. Abby is a wonderful person and you two seem to compliment each other. Plus, I have found a great place to view and learn about machine work from a true craftsman, such as yourself. I also follow you on IG and follow your other RUclips channel. Thanks for sharing your passion for all things mechanical.
Never realized scraping takes such a delicate touch. Great that Abby experienced the joy of creating, that why most of us are here!
Thanks Adam, I love a beautifully scraped surface. And Abby's bowl is beautiful too.
Congrats and thankyou for helping us to learn why and how. This has broadened my understanding and appreciation for many of the things we seem to take for granted in life. I may not have all the equipment and facilities, but I can see how knowledge can elevate anyone who wants to move forward in life with anything.
Great show and class. Thanks for bringing us along. I think it would be fun to watch Abby make a bowl. The beach shot was killer.
It was nice seeing Abby working the wood lathe. A wood lathe is the most fun machine to use in a wood shop. Not too noisy or dusty with the ribbons of wood coming off the knife. Another good thing is you don't have to worry about cutting your arm or other bits off. I always loved using mine.
Awesome video Abom...I really enjoyed this one. Thanks for taking the time.
Looking forward to Abby's woodworking video channel.
I should have been following the class offerings. This class was only a 20 minute drive. Thanks for capturing and sharing!
I LOVE the look of scraped metal! So beautiful! Nice work!
Great content! Thanks for sharing. Many an old machine deserve to be restored, rather than scrapped after a long time in faithful service.
Wow..........excellent video. Thanks Adam for sharing
Awesome video. Looks like it takes a lot of skill to be good at scraping. Abby got to have so fun as well. Now you need a wood lathe for her. Great job to you both. Thank you for sharing.
Great video Adam! Love learning about this scrapping thing. So cool to learn about just in a video. Can't even imagine how fun the class would be.
After binge watching metal working content for the past few months it feels weird seeing how small a wood late can be
Nice bowl Abby! Thanks Abom, looking good there bud
Abbey looked so happy and proud of herself it was so adorable!
Sorry Adam, you lost half your shop to Abby's woodshop. Good to see both of you enjoying learning new things.
Adam, Your talent will never cease to entertain. I would like to congratulate Abby on an awesome bowl. It is beautiful. I would like to encourage her to pursue this as she is pretty good at it. Thank you for a great time.
Thanks for bringing us along, Adam!
Way to go Abby. Keep that up and I can see a new machine in the workshop and lots more of those wood chips :)
This is very cool. I really like the process of scraping!
The part with Abbys' woodturning really had me smiling :)
I like this works but i never learnd it. 😢 i love to see how you geht your Knowledge bigger and bigger. 👍👍👍
Greatings from Germany
Brilliant to see the old school art of scraping is alive and kicking in the USA, and congratualations to Abby on that fantastic bowl she made from scratch ! Loving your RUclips Channel Adam, Love and best wishes from a CNC Machine Tool Service Engineer here in Great Britain...Keep up the good work
Great video
Learned a little more about the art of scraping. Going to take one of those, classes one day. Looks like your dream shop just got bigger for miss Addy to do some wood turning. A husband and wife team. Making memories, videos and having a blast doing it together.
I'm impressed, I think that looks great.
So wholesome to see Abby having fun learning something new. And she made more chips than you too, Abom!
Reeeaaaaaaally nice to see some younger gentlemen there to learn. That’s incredibly important! I’m trying to break into the machining world myself. Learning scraping on my own, scraped in my lathe successfully. Mill will be next one day. A career carpenter/hobby machinist.
Great diversity of ages there. Goes to show you it’s never to late to learn a new skill.
The completed scraped & polished surfaces really are works of art. And I bet the camera doesn't do it justice. Well done!
Tell Abby I give her A+ on the Bowl. Thanks for the video Adam. I really enjoyed it.
Woah....new music...or was this special. I'm never going to pretend to understand all this, but I do actually now understand why scraping is needed. After learning about WHY you scrape I often wonder why we don't see more of it on equipment.
OK, I get it...COST...lol
Wow! Great works!!
That bowl Abby made is beautiful. Lots of things to like about wood turning:
1. It satisfies both the creative and the destructive urges at the same time
2. The payoff is pretty quick as opposed to building a cabinet/bookcase/piano
3. There's just something about a turned object--the wood "looks" warm, and it's just something you WANT to touch and pick up and hold.
4. Raw materials can be had for literally nothing
5. There's always a surprise in the grain structure, etc that adds some interest to the piece.
Always wear a face shield, though. Old chunks of firewood sometimes like to disintegrate at 1200 RPM.
I think this kind of stuff is super cool and I appreciate that people are willing to do it. I do not have the disposition for this particular kind of work, however.
Great job on the bowl Abby. Handscraping has always looked interesting to me, wish I culd have learned that skill .
That is awesome Adam! A true master craft!!
Nice work and good that the class is available. I'm glad you showed a little of how the straight edges were used, I have been wondering exactly what their use was. Maybe some time in the future you can show a project where they are used? Thanks for sharing! My Dad was a machinist for 43 years working at Reed Roller Bit company. When I got out of the Army and had my on shrimp boat, I bought a Atlas lathe and he taught me how to make many parts and most importantly how to cut threads. He passed away 37 years ago at 78 years old and I'm 76 now, I still use the lathe for many small projects and wish I had got him to show me more about other machines and ways of doing things. In the assortment of tools he had accumulated there is a hand scrapper and now I have an idea of what to use it for. The ironic thing is that he complained about his work place and the pressure the bosses put on the workers that I was never interested in that as a career.
This is SO cool. Even though I don't have much of a use for it, I would LOVE to learn it.
Thoroughly enjoyed your video adam on showing the scraping class. The scraping on your individual parts you did looked not only stunning. But also a work of art. I really want to learn this. And hope I can find a scraping class in the uk. Abby also made a wonderful bowl. Good for her. Looks like you both enjoyed it. Thankyou for sharing adam. You both are a really great couple. And I also enjoy your other channel. Travelling.
Just finished my 5th class with Richard in Texas. Lots of fun. Your straight edge looks really nice. I liked your demo of the surface guage and testing that for flatness. The one thing I would do differently with the last straight edge you worked on would be to start aggressively with roughing. Even though it was flat of the shaper, you still had some machining marks in one part while another area had quite a few points. It took me a LONG time to learn not to rush into finishing. Its faster to rough until you have a good pattern. One that is evenly distributed and no obvious holes. Sweeping with a dial test indicator or feeler gauges can help you figure out if its time to start finishing. Its natural to want to chase points in a good area, thinking that they will develop soon in other areas. Often it does not work that way. There may be 'deep' holes that take a long time to get down to. Better to shovel it off in the beginning. Hope you don't mind my 2 cents. Thanks for putting up the video.
i see this subject is been covered a lot more than i thought i gotta say I'm glad of it Adam Bubby i love for this you a gooooood boy
Beautiful job!!
What a beautiful sunset at the end. It looked like the sky was scraped!
This site is a great one to visit but it would be great if you can find the time to answer any of our visits to you would be a great thing bud ! My scrapers are all reshaped old worn files that have worked great for many, many years. I leaned to scrape by an old German machinist ( Tony) there were no power scrapers to be had. Just the old fashioned way to make perfection a real thing eh ! Great post bud ! Working to a tenth of a tenth is no laughing matter my friend. That old shaper really dose a great job bud ! She did a great job on that spalted bowl. Well done lady ! And great post from you bud !
I just now realized when I saw your shirt that I drove right past your shop every day for like a year not too long ago
That scraping is still amazing how it works. Congrats to you Adam. Now you have to find a place for Ms. Abby new lathe. She did a outstanding job with that SPALTED wood lines. it was beautiful
That's some Damn Fine Work Abby !!!! It's worthy of having it's own glass trophy case, for sure !! Maybe you can get Adam, to give-up some shop space and go lathe shopping with you ???
Great job Abby, it only gets more addicting from here on. LOL Makers gotta MAKE!
You are a wonderful person, dude, take your inspiration
Adam, Really enjoyed this. Thank you for sharing. Abbey's wood turning tutorials are going to make another great chanel. She's a natural! 👍👍👍Ant, Cid & the Pooch crew.
One of the few scraping videos that didn’t bore the hell out of me. I love the expertise of scraping but some don’t know how to make it interesting. You have that talent.
If scraping isn't interesting to you, it's probably just not your cup of tea. It's more for technical minds who are interested in being able to get something so flat, by hand.
Fascinatin' stuff
Thanks Adam
So happy for Abby, thats Awesome, I can Picture Adam on a metal lathe and Abby on a wood lathe both making Chips
Thanks for a great explanation - fascinating! Tip of the hat to Abby - looks like she's a candidate for a wood lathe next birthday :-)
That bowl is really nice! I've tried woodworking with a lathe a few times. Tons of fun!
Good work Abby, really nice looking bowl.
i see a wood shop comming sone and now understand what ou were doing did some of that back in the day good job love the vid
Great video. Thanks for taking us along with you and Abbie :^)
Kudos Abby! So you are officially a Turner now. Good job!
Great bowl Abby. Those chips are nearly as big as Adams. Well done
Good for Abby, she has fallen down the rabbit hole of wood turning!!!!!!
loved this video.
It came in very quickly because it was not far from being flat when you started. Your shaper is doing a great job!
Nice work Adam and Abby! Enjoyed.
ATB, Robin
Interesting stuff Andy. I agree with the guys below Abby deserves a wood lathe. Thanks
Oh boy now you will have to build a shop for Abby to pursue her wood turning.
Nice. Can't wait to take my third class with Richard. Hopefully he'll be back at Keith Rucker's sometime soon.
holy tedious...thanks for the vid. Lost art for sure. You realize just how good the old timers were. I have a 1957 Colt Woodsman Match Target pistol. When you look at the precision of the parts and the mating surfaces, you see how excellent those machinist/gunsmiths were. To get that degree to fit and finish and skill today would be cost prohibitive.
Abby makin' chips... that is awsome... well done Abby... nice work!
Nice work on the wood lathe Abby!
I learned A whole new thing here. Thanks.
New for me and very interesting, THANKS.
Sos un capo Adam !! Estoy empezando recién y me animo más con tus vídeos . Saludos desde río gallegos - santa cruz - argentina.