I've worked in jails and prisons and law enforcement for 10 years, beyond a shadow of a doubt, most of the criminals I came across never had a father in their life, or were primarily raised by single moms, its a huge probelm
One can disagree with something because it isn't their lifestyle, but it doesn't change the facts. She agrees, but then disagrees; it makes her uncomfortable because she isn't doing it. No, not all of us grow up with "perfect" fathers. What does that even look like? None of us is perfect, but it's still important to have a healthy male figure in the family for boys to look up to and learn from, a Grandfather or uncle. Or once upon a time, Big Brother, Big Sister was an option. Is that program still around?
I was so impressed with jillian during this part. She could have taken it personally and been very upset. But she listened and even agreed with where he was coming from. Amazing
you have to start somewhere though. with A father at least theres a possibility of it being a good enough father. with no father there is no possibility.
When my mom couldn't discipline me, she had my dad in her back pocket. They've shown single mother homes vs. single father homes. Single father clears. You need to pick a partner logically for your kids' sake, not who gives you the most butterflies. A boy is going to struggle growing up with two moms and vis versa. They model behavior
Instead of father, I'd say "father figure". My cousin grew up fatherless (his father died in a war) and his grandfather raised him into a mature responsible young man. It can also be a stepfather, uncle, older brother, or anyone else close to him who will guide him and pass him the qualities Matt mentioned and explained...
She isn’t straight . It’s a hard subject for her to understand ! I respect her so much but it’s a tough subject for her and I get it ! In her family she would want to think that they could replace a father with enough love and understanding but you can’t replace a father figure .. even gay couples still need a father figure for their kids .
They also don't have the sense of belonging that every human needs, so that's why they get in gangs; to feel like they belong somewhere. Edit: I made that comment RIGHT BEFORE Matt said what he did about gangs.
I've seen the flip side. Kids with father's who screw them up. Every father wants to be the hero to their kid and some turn into complete a**holes trying to impress their kids.
Love LOVE L*O*V*E that you dare to have REAL Conversations -- that you model being a great listener, being understanding and that it is okay to have a different perspective nd to non-defensively bring up those areas and see if we can at least 'understand' a little more where we are all coming from... without having to agree! Thank You!
Idealization of the father (and marginalization of the mother equally) is part of the patriarchal ideology. If we want to talk about facts: The mother-child relationship is essential because children develop in the mother's womb and because it is the mother's job to breastfeed the infant. There is no question that male role models are important, later on and especially for boys. But any man of moral character can do that. The biological producer is not necessary for the healthy development of the child.
I don’t follow your argument. The biological mother, after giving birth, could give the child away to a male couple to be raised by them. How is she more necessary to the child than the biological father is post-birth?
As a mother you tend to be more lenient because your heart doesn't let you be harsh. It could be enough when it comes to raising girls but many times it is not enough for boys that really tend to push boundaries and as Matt said, they need a male figure.
Not just any male with good character will do. A lot of kids want and need a father figure, not just a man who has a good personality and morals to hang out with. They want a connection to a father figure and to feel loved by a father figure. Just like most kids want to have a mother figure as well, and not just a woman in their lives who is nice to them and warm in her regards.
Jillian, you are a great listener and even better communicator. Love the skill and grace.
Great conversation, and way to talk to someone you have a disagreement with in a respectful manner.
I've worked in jails and prisons and law enforcement for 10 years, beyond a shadow of a doubt, most of the criminals I came across never had a father in their life, or were primarily raised by single moms, its a huge probelm
Great idea to have Matt on!
Matt is the Man!
One can disagree with something because it isn't their lifestyle, but it doesn't change the facts. She agrees, but then disagrees; it makes her uncomfortable because she isn't doing it.
No, not all of us grow up with "perfect" fathers. What does that even look like? None of us is perfect, but it's still important to have a healthy male figure in the family for boys to look up to and learn from, a Grandfather or uncle. Or once upon a time, Big Brother, Big Sister was an option. Is that program still around?
I was so impressed with jillian during this part. She could have taken it personally and been very upset. But she listened and even agreed with where he was coming from. Amazing
The importance of having a GOOD father. A lot have fathers that damaged them.
you have to start somewhere though. with A father at least theres a possibility of it being a good enough father. with no father there is no possibility.
@@mirabella2154 those fathers don't count
@@TheBirdboy84 exactly, also by numbers, families need the responsible stoicism of a father.
@@TheBirdboy84 Wrong. A horrific father can do much more damage than an absent father.
@@mirabella2154Anything you’ve got to prove that?
We need more conversations like this. Great job.
Ms. Michaels, I respect your willingness to listen. That is a sign of a good interviewer who wants to engage in meaningful discourse.
When my mom couldn't discipline me, she had my dad in her back pocket. They've shown single mother homes vs. single father homes. Single father clears. You need to pick a partner logically for your kids' sake, not who gives you the most butterflies. A boy is going to struggle growing up with two moms and vis versa. They model behavior
Instead of father, I'd say "father figure". My cousin grew up fatherless (his father died in a war) and his grandfather raised him into a mature responsible young man. It can also be a stepfather, uncle, older brother, or anyone else close to him who will guide him and pass him the qualities Matt mentioned and explained...
The point is that fathers need to stick around !
I think Jillian Michaels is a much better father than so many of the fathers I see and know.
Jillian is on deep deep denial
She isn’t straight . It’s a hard subject for her to understand ! I respect her so much but it’s a tough subject for her and I get it ! In her family she would want to think that they could replace a father with enough love and understanding but you can’t replace a father figure .. even gay couples still need a father figure for their kids .
Would the risk-taking explain young men being reckless in relationships?
They also don't have the sense of belonging that every human needs, so that's why they get in gangs; to feel like they belong somewhere.
Edit: I made that comment RIGHT BEFORE Matt said what he did about gangs.
I've seen the flip side. Kids with father's who screw them up. Every father wants to be the hero to their kid and some turn into complete a**holes trying to impress their kids.
Love LOVE L*O*V*E that you dare to have REAL Conversations -- that you model being a great listener, being understanding and that it is okay to have a different perspective nd to non-defensively bring up those areas and see if we can at least 'understand' a little more where we are all coming from... without having to agree! Thank You!
This is so respectful thank you
I dig Matt…but he’s like a freaken robot…
❤️Jillian💜
Idealization of the father (and marginalization of the mother equally) is part of the patriarchal ideology. If we want to talk about facts: The mother-child relationship is essential because children develop in the mother's womb and because it is the mother's job to breastfeed the infant. There is no question that male role models are important, later on and especially for boys. But any man of moral character can do that. The biological producer is not necessary for the healthy development of the child.
I don’t follow your argument. The biological mother, after giving birth, could give the child away to a male couple to be raised by them. How is she more necessary to the child than the biological father is post-birth?
As a mother you tend to be more lenient because your heart doesn't let you be harsh. It could be enough when it comes to raising girls but many times it is not enough for boys that really tend to push boundaries and as Matt said, they need a male figure.
@marcus seek help
Marriage is ordained by God between one man and one woman.
Not just any male with good character will do. A lot of kids want and need a father figure, not just a man who has a good personality and morals to hang out with. They want a connection to a father figure and to feel loved by a father figure. Just like most kids want to have a mother figure as well, and not just a woman in their lives who is nice to them and warm in her regards.