Final MSFS 2020 Update This Year - MSFS 2024 Incoming! | SU15 Is Huge
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Sim Update 15 has been delayed for around 2 months now as the team build up to its release, and it is going to be a big one. In fact, it needs to be as it will be the final Sim Update for MSFS 2020 of the year! After this, MSFS 2024 will take priority over MSFS 2020 updates. In this video we take a look at what to expect from SU15, and what is on the horizon for the much anticipated MSFS 2024.
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I’m holding off on 2024 and will read with interest forums and YT broadcasters opinions before purchasing,mainly to see what sort of money I might need to spend on a PC upgrade to get the most out of it.SU15 will hopefully give enough improvements to carry me over
Same
afaik the new sim will have the same system reqs, so you probably won't need a new pc
@@SeaEagle752 @wazzman70 as a new code base was implemented, you don’t need a new computer. This new version of the sim will manage multithreaded which results on a better performance experience
Agree with you.
Hoping it'll be better optimized... It's pretty good right now, I get at the LOWEST 35fps, ultra/high, frame generation, dlaa, autofps... All with a 3090
Probably hold off purely because I’ll have to remove and resetup everything in 2024, and at that point I’ll probably also end up just reformatting while I’m at it and then the task become way more than I can be assed doing for a minor bump up in performance.
Is there still a "Top Secret" update getting ready to drop, because I've seen NO improvement during the beta. As a matter of fact, yesterday's update introduced substantial pauses every 8-12 seconds or so. Also, how good of a strategy is it when the consumer has to drop a $2K house payment on a GPU capable of running this thing in order to look as good as all of the RUclips Streamers who obviously have expendable income due to the never ending commercials we have to endure just to watch a 15 minute flight? Reality is skewed on here for the most part when it comes to MSFS. Top of the line CPUs, GPUs, $700 rudder pedals, $500 sidesticks, $250 tillers, $1200 yokes, etc... Does Asobo believe everyone is a stock broker, lawyer, doctor, CPA? Yes, MSFS has always pushed hardware limits but the economy is much much different today compared to FSX and P3D.
last update VOHOO. now we can actually play without constantly update. loading main menu so far only 100hours.
microsoft make sure you buy same game again...again...this is last....now ADS
The success of any program depends on people buying and supporting it! I am almost 80 and have been with MS flight sims since the first one.
I will be buying MS2024 when it comes out. Warts and all!
I’ll probably buy 2024 as soon as possible. MSFS 2020 got me back into flightsim for the first time in 16 years and I’m hungry for more!
Same here 😂
I can feel you. I did start with 98 than pause, did really start over again in fsx..another 5yrs pause, moved to p3dv5 and 6 months ago to 2020! but I will get 2024 and the cool thing is, that all addons you can use it.
Won't be purchasing, they have had 4 years to fix 2020, and it's a bug ridden mess, my GPU goes ballistic when in the marketplace the fans sound like it is going to take off.
Then there is what they have said about it being more cloud based and only downloading what you need, what happens if you have poor internet connection, or the internet goes down completely. MSFS 2020 is still usable offline, the new one won't be, if it is going to be cloud based, from what they are saying. Looks like they are going to cater from Xbox users more than people that treat MSFS 2020 as a flight sim.
Personally I am NOT interested in flying helicopters and doing rescue missions, I mostly fly A320 Fenix.
Sounds like a you problem. I've got no glaring issues with MSFS20.
I think I’ll pass. I don’t fly helicopter rescue missions or crop dusting. I fly airliners, so when FBW releases thei A380, and PMDG releases the B777, I’ll be more than happy with FS2020 😊
Think I’ll sit back and wait a few months to see what issues inevitably crop up in the beginning. Also to see if everything REALLY carries over. Just because they say it will now, doesn’t mean it will then. Don’t want to get the 777 only to find out it doesn’t work in 2024.
They've already said that 90% of the stuff available on the FS Market Place will carry over with little to no rework needed, and this has been the case for every version of Flight Simulator. The only tweaks needed are the ones for the new parameters that the new engine will have. FS5 planes worked with FS6, FS5&6 worked with FS7(FS95) FS95 worked with FS98, 98 with 2000, 2000 with 2002, 2002 with 2004, 2004 with FSX, and FSX with P3D, and you can even get FSX planes into MSFS20. The only things them was certain items were not available for the older aircraft if they weren't updated for the new sim.
Have to recognize though, in anticipation of EVERY update the videos are essentially the same. Less stuttering, better optimized etc etc etc
I think everyone is hopeful that some of the persistent issues are corrected, but I have yet to see any update that had noticeably better performance.
Where did you hear mid-May for SU15? Everything I've seen still points to 4/30.
So, we get the last simupdate and still WX not functioning for 3rd party addons like Fenix or PMDG, still AI aircrafts with weird behaviour and much more... :\
I have mixed feelings about this. I think I’ll wait at least 6 months to a year before I buy MSFS 2024 and listen to the feedback. If SU15 is a good as it’s meant to be then hopefully there’s still plenty of life in MSFS 2020 to enjoy. It’s like a comfy shoe to me and I’ll need some convincing to set up a new sim. I’ve heard also that the new sim makes better use of CPU hyper threading. My I7 9700K although overclocked to 5 ghz does not have hyper threading, so I’m not sure if I’ll get the improvement benefit from this without a new processor. Perhaps a tech out there maybe able to answer that for me.
- Airport textures are still broken in DX12
- Scenery is still messed up in many areas becuse of satellite imagery loading bug
Official bug threads active for YEARS and asobo ignores issue completely. If msfs 2024 doesn't solve these issues, im switching back to Xplane
And thanks for the video
but thankfully we have a dune expansion so there's nothing to complain about.. "as real as it gets" or what
thats why i think MSDS 2020 was a scam, and I can bet MSFS 2024 is just another new scam.
All add ons SHOULD be compatible with FS2024..... now if we've learned any lessons from the past, I must regret to inform you: DONT COUNT ON IT!
Hmmm...seeing this current sim cycle has only one, where are you getting that thought from? If you look back from FSX back to FS95 you could use practically any aircraft and scenery from one to the other. So again, I don't know where you're getting that idea from.
I think you mean P&W for the Neo engines. CFM engines don't feature on Neos
I don't think you realize how very wrong you are. The A320 is available with both the CFM International LEAP and the Pratt & Whitney PW1000G. A 2 second web search would have told you that.
I was kinda hoping to see that a310 butter ngl
Live traffic is fine but Xbox users need real liveries and matching real aircraft models.
Who is gonna have space on their hard drive to install MSFS 2024 without deleting 2020 lol?!
I'll be biting the bullet and getting MSFS 2024 as soon as its available with any foibles included in the first release as a given! Too much time involved for me in further customising 2020 so might as well go with the new one instead to take advantage of new PC specially bought for this.
Given the history of MSFS, I will be waiting a loooooog time before a purchase of MSFS2024
Exactly. I don’t get how people think the sim will magically solve all their issues with 2020 on day one.
@@CactusBravo42 Only the stupid think that there will be no issues, only the weak are afraid to tread unbroken ground.
Not buying 2024 unless it has guarantees. The flight planner has to work, ATC has to work, Save games have to work. I want a working 'simulator' not a 'gaem.'
2020 was a major disappointment. less functionality than FSX. only saved by some fabulous third party addon aircraft.
I don't expect to have to use Simbrief, Navigraph or Beyond ATC to complete my Simulator experience! Get it right this time Microsoft, for the price you charge, there are really no excuses.
Ah, another one that doesn't know how to use MSFS20 as a simulator and blames everyone else for their incompetence. Typical.
You're probably going to be disappointed. I don't expect any of those things to be major priority for Asobo, or for the majority of users tbh.
I'm looking forward to the ground friction update. I hope it will make a difference.
What is this, please can you explain
@@madsib5187 nah nub
@@ali_leo7868?
@@madsib5187 It's simply the way your aircrafts' wheels will react to the ground in the sim. They say they're improving the simulation of it so that it's somewhat closer to the real thing. I think they're reducing the friction, so it's less like the plane is hugging the ground. I don't know. We'll see on May 7th, I guess. :)
@@CantFindaGoodUsername Thanks, mate!
I would buy 2024. No doubt.
You have quite a few wonderful airports and cities in your video. Would you mind to post a list because there a few that I don't recognize and would like to fly there as well. 😉
I'm thinking FBW is waiting on the A380 till 2024....
Probably but I hope it releases soon
Will get 2024 but will expect lots of issues.
I'm guessing you mean they are also working on PW engines for the 320neo?
The SU15 delay also affects the Black Square Dukes. I understand they won't be released until SU15 is out. Bummer.
No first day purchase of MSFS 2024. Will see how it goes a couple of months down the line and maybe consider it.. or even better look for a sale. But the way they treated 2020 and left a lot of things hanging like the unfinished dx12, needs to be punished by the consumers and MS understands only one language, money.
For me, I believe MSFS2024 will be a day one purchase. However, much like I did with MSFS2020, how much I use it will depend on the availability of getting my favorite payware aircraft like PMDG, Fenix etc. into the new sim. I only moved to MSFS2020 fulltime from P3Dv5 once the Fenix and PMDG 737 were available. But I did spend a lot of hours flying GA in 2020.
The really BIG hope for me with MSFS2024 is they'll open up the camera API for developers like //42 and the awesome Chaseplane. While I've managed to get by without in MSFS2020. I'm really hoping MS/Asobo allows for this in the new sim.
Worried that the MSFS 2024 will not be worth it. I need GSX and Fenix to work in it
GSX just to actually work, would be nice, it's crashed so many times I have stopped using it.
@@andy70d35 Yeah well i bought it about 3 weeks ago and it didnt work for about a week. I didnt realise that my pc had under 1 GB left of storage. If your storage is full i would empty as much as it really helps
Bet they will announce a release dec 2024 but will bush back to mid 2025
I will wait to see how it pans out. With about £4k invested in Ms2020. I need to know my add-ons will work along with hardware. And PC will run ms2024. To many if's at the moment
If PMDG 777 and GSX work on MSFS 2024, I’m jumping ship
Nice one Gav!! I shall wait before making the purchase
Let's gooo! So hyped for my home town stockholm being updated.
KDFW terrain will be fixed in SU15 according to the livestream.
I'm thinking it'll be August-September for fs2024 will come out
I’ll likely hold off of getting 2024 as flight sims tend to take a year to iron out the kinks etc
Nice Video update Gavin ! Let’s hope the SU is worth waiting for ! I’m sure it will be ! As for MSFS2024 I’ll be sitting on the fence once it’s released ! See what the initial reactions are! MSFS is a brilliant game overall and I keep thinking back many years to what we had ! I simply couldn’t have imagined how good it would become ! Things can only get better in my opinion and the community is very Lucky ! I appreciate what we have even though there has been frustration along the way ! 👍🙏🏻❤️👊✈️👨✈️
Will buy it right away.
If we kept the basic game and didn't load it up with excessive add-ons, it would work fine with a fairly basic PC. I've got an i7 4600, SSD and an RTX3060. Runs fine with Fenix a320 at med-med/high settings
I shall wait re release of 2024.. maybe I might wait as long as 3 whole days. Maybe.
Ok.
Can't wait!!
I've been here since Flight Sim 2.
Just love them.
(I loved the old Amiga flight stuff too.. remember f/18 ?)
FS2024 Day one for me (October?).
I don't care. I'll be there.
Haha! (Manic laughter)
Barty
Part of my decision for getting FS2024 (PC) is disk-space. Can both sims be installed on the same machine, and will they share the same Official and Community folders? Regardless, it's a matter of "when", not "if" I'll get FS2024.
I must confess I'm very happy with MSFS 2020. I've got the Fenix A320, the PMDG 737 and the Black Square Analog Baron. I've a reasonably good gaming PC, a huge 55" OLED screen, Virtual Fly controls and Logitech panels and a custom built console to mount everthing on. Everything is configured for MSFS 2020 so I'm not sure what MSFS 2024 can do for me apart from probably give me a huge headache changing over ! I fly the 172 in real life and enjoy flying in the sim the more complex planes mentioned above that I don't get to fly in real life.
Biggest update for 2020 this year, look MSFS 2024 is cheap in relation to some third party addons, all your old stuff will work. You've all got a stick up your ass. Just buy 2024 and you'll have another update in 2024, job done! 👌
I'll give MSFS2024 a spin via Gamepass. I Hope they get the basic stuff (downloading of the game itself, broken settings, ...) right.
The fact that they plan to continue the support of 2020 makes me wonder whether 2024 is meant to actually replace it. My take: 2024 will be a more engaging, activity-focussed sim, with less emphasis on real-world flying, in other words a flight-"game" rather than a flight sim while 2020 will remain (and focus) on the sim-side of things.
I don't believe any of this "increased performance" until I see it. And I would be shocked if they didn't break anyting in a major way with over 200+ changes...........it's going to break something that won't be caught during testing...happens almost every update. A joke at this point of the dev cycle, with the amount of resources they have at hand.........what is going on with Asobo not being able to break the cycle of breaking the sim?
No working weather radar, Thunderheads=SU 15 is not going to be "Huge", except for the X Box Kiddies......
What month will MSFS 2024 be released in? I would say August also.
Will I be purchasing it? Not immediately after the first release, I'd give Asobo and Microsoft at least 6 months to fix unexpected bugs.
MSFS 2020 already does more than I'll ever need. I'll keep using it until MS withdraws support.
Soooo, a lot of us are on beta and at least so far, there isn’t much of improvement as far as stutters and performance go! So far SU15 beta is similar to SU14 and significantly worse than SU13, performance wise! I would be surprised if anything changes in the next two weeks, but let’s hope they do, for better!
Microsoft/Asobo have delivered on 2020 in every way. The plethora of updates and additions have been extraordinary and all at no extra cost. It’s an exciting year ahead with the release of 2024 and all it will bring. Thanks again for a fab post 🥳😊
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it was a beta! You can’t be foreal
really? lemme guess you are from Asobo or Microsoft?
@@RiemsAI Lemme guess, you're an idiot or a fool?
@@lsubesteva You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
2024 will be a day one purchase for myself as 2020 just does not use my hardware to its fullest, i9 13900K 4090 and 64Gb DDR5 memory I should really get more performance than I currently do.
Same type of setup I have and my hardware is severely underutilized
same here, same hardware, same thoughts.
I have exactly the same setup. But in VR GPU is at 90-100% actually
@@Torcsen which is why I’m waiting for the 5090 before I build my first desktop w/ higher res HMD in two decades. On a 4080 laptop right now and VR runs at 95% with low-medium settings (irregardless of TAA vs. DLSS even with tight foveated rendering) micro stutters galore. Runs flawlessly, even on a 4K gaming TV with ultras settings, but VR feels like a disaster, and now that I’m hooked… it’s the only way to fly…
@@SkinnyBigRed1yes.. I know! Cant stand flying without VR. Its just another world. I built myself a rig for 4000usd right before xmas + quest 3. Quite happy with cisuals and performance. But want to upgrade my headset one day and then Im afraid I need a 5090 too!😂 expensive hobby, but as real as it gets!
#Easyjetsimpilot .. I have a request. Because of the war in Ukraine the russians are jamming the GPS signal over the Baltic countries and many commercial aircraft have return back from the destination airports. Finnair for example had at least 2 flights that returned back and now they stopped all flights to Estonia until further notice. Is it possible that you make a simulation flight where the GPS signal is gone? What do you do then and what are the SOP in a case like this? Can you continue and land or is it necessary to go to alternate and how do you land the aircraft? Hope you have the time to do a flight like this! Thanks for your videos!
I will not go anywhere near 2024 until at least 2025. I remember the absolute cluster-fk that 2020 was when it was released before it was ready. Too much hype and not enough substance.
I'll get 2024, being that it should be released with game pass. I really hope that our current purchases work with the new sim. I have 40 airports downloaded, plus I don't know how many aircrafts. Having a free marketplace would be nice also. I would like to see items on the marketplace have trials. There are way too many items on there that don't do what they say, work with sim without crashes, or just is flat out trash.
Will only move to 2024 if they programme for proper and full multithread/multicore use and they can demonstrate fewer performance bottlenecks.
I watch and see what msfs2024 will do, if i like it, i buy it. I hope that the ingame atc will be to adjust. No more report aircraft inside, because in real life they don't say that. There's what tcas is for.
I will buy it straight away! Launch date…. Octobre 2024, I guess.
Xbox here. Prob will move over as long as addons are working. Not having to purchase again is a huge sell factor for me. Also. Late September for release.
i wil wait to see how it runs etc. 2020 is already amazing, but 2024 is even more crazy!
Praying this is the finishing Midas touch if you will I’m also praying this is NOT a Sim killer that it will age like a fine wine and not sour like fsx did lol cause I really love 2020 it is fantastic in my opinion
Given their track record so far with delays I think the new sim will be called FS2025.
Guys, should I buy NOW msfs 2020 premium or wait for msfs 2024?
I'll wait to see the reviews and then will decide about the 2024. I'm pretty happy with 2020 so far.
I, too, am very happy with MSFS 2020, but MSFS 2024 is a completely different simulator so I'll keep both.
no need to hurry, there will be bugs.
@@wout123100 Only the weak dare not to tread unbroken ground.
@@suddenlysolo21702024 этот и есть 2020 год просто всего лишь цифра поменяли месте 0 поставили 4😂
On minute 3.25 of this video what airport is this? :)
Basically msfs 2020 is obsolete once msfs2024 comes out…stop trying to sell
MSFS 2024 is due in October… six months
So excited to see if they will have an fs2024 demo at fsexpo this year. Will be the first ever year I go
What peninsula airport you landing on in the video, looks cool.
Gonna try 2024 on gamepass before I buy it on Steam
I reckon we won’t see msfs2024 until December
Personally, I think it'll be closer to Christmas.
Agree. I think perhaps early November, so that they catch the lucrative Christmas period.
Yes agree end of the year.
No, most releases of the sim are in the late Summer time. So August September is more on par with that. October at the latest. They don't try to compete with the big games like Call of Duty, Forza, etc.
msfs 2024 comes earlier than su15 🙂
Going for the 2024!
Could someone clarify, is Microsoft coming up with new flight sim? What’s the need of it?
What I have heard is that 2024 will make better use of the multi core multi thread CPUs available now. 2020 was based off of FSX architecture that used single core chips
@@guyfox7830 thanks mate
The only reason, is that Microsoft need to make money. As you know, all simupdates, worldupdates and cityupdates are for free. Just like they have done before, FS 98, 2000, 2002, FSX.
@@chaophraya8003 1: This isn't a money making thing at all. 2: Releasing a new sim is very much standard for the series 3: This allows them to take all prior updates, bug fixes, and addons, and roll them into one. 4: They are literally condensing the base code to take up less of a footprint on your local harddrive. The original download was 150GB in size and it has since grown to well over 200GB with all the SUs, WUs, AUs, CUs, and if you have any 3rd party scenery and aircraft, you're probably like me and approaching half a terabyte in size.
No updates..No New AIRACS .....Thank Jebus for Navigraph
Yeah because you need to pay for something that literally never changes in the sim.
What about multi core use in 2024? Even my Nvidia 2070s in 4k will not get to the limit with this needless single core performance limit in 2020 ! Why do they do this? Most of us have 6,8 or 12 core cpu and MS came up with single core use. Boy oh boy......
MSFS 2020 was still based on some FSX code, which is now 20 years old so had limitations - hence a new MSFS 2024
I would buy it the second it gets released.
Will all the paid addons transfer over? Especially things like the Fenix?
I heard it's a stand alone so it may not transfer to the new one.
@@BanditFlashpointThey said most of them should work on the new sim
The March Q&A session, Jorg was talking about the FlightFX Vision Jet being a default aircraft in FS2024. He was talking about pulling the current Vision Jet from the Marketplace, because he didn't want someone buying the Vision Jet in September, then later when FS2024 comes out, they are disappointed what they bought is now free. That statement though means FS2024 is later than September. Asobo, like many European companies, has off the last 2 weeks of December for the holidays, so it is unlikely that FS2024 would be released in December. That means an October or November release. I personally expect a first week November release date.
Bah ça ne peut pas être pire que celui sorti en 1982 ;-)
I think I will wait for reports and comments before i bay it. By the way I used to work in the tower in OSL, the airport you run in the video.
Hope it looked realistic.
im happy staying with MSFS2020 until msfs2024 comes out. im going to hold off until they release MSFS2024
Wish msfs2024 was just a big ol' pay update. I'd be down for paying for it every 4 years provided the platform was still good. But I don't know much about that stuff.
MSFS2024 sounds great, and as I have game pass there is no reason for me not to get it. The only issue though is my performance. I have an i7 11th gen, 3060, and 32 GB of ram, often times not enough for more than 40 fps and no stutters. I expect 2024 performance to be even worse
Awesome video Gavin. Can’t wait till SU15, and great to hear Inibuilds are planning to release PW1000 engines at some point, finally we’ll have the wookie howl in the sim!
As for FS2024, as much as I’m tempted to buy it as soon as it’s released I think I’ll stall for at least a couple of months and look for reviews and sim play footage beforehand.
As always I’m buying pre order MSFS was bad at first so many people said and here we are today . Now if only Microsoft could get ahold of DCS
I probably won't buy on day 1, but so long as the reviews are good for stability and backwards compatibility with third-party products, I'll be an early adopter.
so is 2024 a full game like 2020? the last one i played was almost 20 years ago. id like to know if i should just wait or get 2020 now.
It's a full new game.
the photo cities (bing) already in FS2020 will be in FS2024 when released ? info on this ? thanks
Good video as usual. Have they mentioned the specs required and the size of the 2024 sim? As for your question I must say that at this point I m not sure if I ll purchase it. Or if I do, when I will. Between the 15 updates since it launched in 2020 and all the other updates of my add on software's caused by the sim s updates I must admit I m getting a little discouraged with flight simulations. I ll be 71 soon and I don t have the same patience I had in 2001 when i started with FSX. It s a good Sim though.
Don't get your hopes up, in the past 4 years, Asobo has managed to mess up the sim every in single update they had released.....This one won't be any different.
Hi, how did you get the A310 working again? Mine is not working since SU12 or so, (CTD during loading) it's a common problem according to a lot forum posts.
im from the future, msfs 2024 will be a serious let down and disappointment, heres where you read it first
Something tells me it will be such a disappointment that it will lead to MSFS 2020 becoming a classic.
I will buy 2024 if i'm sure my fenix will work from day 1. Otherwise i'll wait 😊
Ive had no issues with weather concerns……only fly live time and weather. Then you dont need to worry about historical weather 😁
yeah i want to see the benefits before purchasing, only on the basis that fs2020 is looking as real as it gets, im not getting itchy feet about upgrading yet.
why cant i find much info on 2024? cant even pre order it or find it on any store.
It's not available yet. No release date announced