you have, just make 20 X's and draw a dick on the voting sheet, your vote counts but its invalid.. actually I don't know if thats possible or if it accomplishes anything in the US with its 2 party system.
Bret has always been,bravely, sounding the alarm. When 1 set of ppl own the language they then enslave discourse. Free speech & reason” are not on the menu. You are.
@@SFbayArea94121 I have to agree with Joe on this one. If they're not threatening anyone (regardless of their history [unless they have a tendency towards violence and are in possession of a deadly weapon]) then I don't see a problem with them being driven home, or even charged with disorderly conduct and booked...But KILLING them? That's not right.
@@chrisadkins6394 He got behind the wheel drunk. So, umm... no to the rest of it. You get behind the wheel drunk, you know the consequences. Tired of the stupidity. Enough. I've paid way, way more than I wanted to for an Uber - home and back - before. But guess what? I made the choice to drink too much. Choices have consequences. Had he made the right choices, he'd still be alive. End of story.
My family still living in Germany don't like Trump but they're realizing they agree with him about a lot. They cannot understand what happened to the Democratic Party? The Berlin Wall DDR just came down in 1989 but American DEMOCRATS are pushing socialism or the beginnings of what always becomes socialism! That post modernism for you! Failures of the past can be explained by intersectionality of postmodernism as it rejects the entire idea of free debate, science, or TRUTH INDEPENDENT OF WHITE MALE POWER.
@@admonishedAlligator he didn't get shot for drunk driving. Joe talks about how polite he was but failed to mention that the 2 police officers were also very polite and respectful to him. Up until he started beating the shit out of them, stole their weapon and fired it at them.
It's the same problem people have been talking about for years now- the political system in the US has been bought off by corporations and neither political party actually represents the interests of the people, especially not the interests of the working class. The issue is not 'systemic racism'. The issue is systemic corruption. The US Government is no longer "of the people, by the people, for the people", that's the issue.
@@michaelk6818we can get rid of our corrupt government, but this doesn't mean toss our bill of rights out the window. Like hello. Tulsi was against the 2nd amendment and also supported Russia gate. Think man. Im all for rebuilding, but don't toss the constitution by supporting a women who wants to take away your right to defend yourself.
it really annoyed me how Joe just REFUSED to entertain the idea that the footage isnt the whole story, purely detracting from the bigger point that, i beleive Scott Adams put it 'if you see a video, its fake'. All you have to do is look at some of Lefty twitters videos, they crop out context of certain events. We have to ask questions like 'why is the camera filming in this spot? who is behind the camera and whats their intention? are there actors or lies being done and said? what happened before and after the video stopped?' the point is the video is inherently a limited view on something, him just detracting by thinking what he saw was all he needs to know is ridiculous. Floyd was saying he couldnt breathe before being on the ground, he resisted arrest, how do we know he wasnt lying in order to try to get a window of opertunity to fight or escape? maybe thats why they didnt beleive him saying he couldnt breathe when on the floor... These things are invaluable to deciding EXACTLY what happened. 1st and 3rd degree murder are entirely different charges, overcharging lets him off, but in any case, we need to be ACCURATE if the insitutuion of the courts is to mean anything
Hey joe. Your never going to see this, but your podcast is the only thing that gets me through work and when I’m alone at my house. Your very wise and I take every thing you say in. Your voice has become a symbol of realization for me
Not to wise on brooks though. Getting so drunk that you pass out while driving isn't a victimless crime. It's not like smoking weed in ur house. His opinion would absolutely change if a drunk driver drives over his daughter.
30 people die everyday in the US due to impaired driving, and you can’t comprehend why the police even needed to respond? It’s not a victimless crime Joe.
Drunk driving is an issue, you're absolutely right. However to be thrown in jail and handcuffed over a mistake that can't be right? Drunks aren't criminals they need help. Now do I think they should be left off the hook? Absolutely not its a dangerous act that can lead people to be hurt hence the idea to fine them and let their fate be decided in court.
Hauser Hooch Joe was so impressed with how polite and peaceful the guy was while he was trying to fitness his way out of going to jail. Apparently, Joe doesn't realize everyone is polite and peaceful while they're trying to talk the cops out of arresting them.
@@TheBlackB0X He wasn't operating the vehicle, he was sleeping it off. Could have just had the heating on waiting till he sobered up. Legally speaking he was not operating the vehicle and had no reason to arrest him. Drunk driving is terrible but this wasn't it. Cops should have never taken it that far
You have to arrest drunk drivers. They kill people. This guy had not pulled over to rest. He passed out in a drive threw with his car running. It's not like I am some MADD activist. I got a DUI when I was 20. I deserved it and I am lucky to not have killed somebody.
Yeah, I do think it still ages well. Not to say every notion is correct, and we shouldnt expect it to be. However, it is still very refreshing to hear valid articulated points and then a genuine discussion. Rarely happens anymore imo.
We ended natural selection, and you just cannot do that without ruining everything. If you did that with any other animal species (especially a domesticated one) it would become garbage specimens very quickly.
@@ReekRendTest1 I used to think that but I'm not sure that's entirely true. Yes, anyone can procreate. NO, anyone can't just procreate with someone with sought after characteristics such as intelligence etc (and implied genetic heritage). There is still absolutely genetic selection going on, with more intelligent and successful people attracting better mates, and vice versa. We can see this play out in increasingly stratified western societies. Genes are not naturally selected against now, but certain phenotypic traits are still highly selected for/against, which determines which gene pool you are going to go into. I totally accept that this is not as severe and limiting as natural selection, but there is clearly something going on with humans. Also I really think we should be mindful of the next potential stage in human evolution, as laid out by Elon Musk and Neuralink - at some point in the near-ish future we are going to start to assimilate with our technology. This will transform humans to god-like capabilities in terms of processing and memory. At present, there is no single human who can know everything about every human specialism in tech and science. The world is just too complex now. 200 years ago, it was absolutely possible for 1 person to generalise across all specialisms, just about. But the next stage in human evolution will likely not be brought about by hungry predators, but by technology. If/when we merge with computer processors/memories, it will be possible for single humans to absorb all of the information across all tech/science specialties. At that time, analog humans of the previous 2 millenia will be looked at as cavemen. Basically what I'm saying is don't think that natural selection is the only force that can change the nature of humanity, because the future is unwritten.
Ben the intelligent are breeding less than everyone else. Who’s winning the genetic lottery now? Natural selection doesn’t care about individual characteristics, it cares about numbers. Not letting people fail evolutionarily is bad for the progress of the species. Not that progress is the end all be all goal, I suppose.
Other then the obvious abuse of power in the pass.. we see the obvious reason for worry when the ppl in power can at any time make us all slaves again.. like was said in this podcast we act like everything is ok and good but we see the trends.. the rich and powerful only care about themself, the less rich we r the more powerful they are.. you are 2 blind to see the boogeyman because it moves in the shadows until it attacks
Really Joe? You asked why were the police called for a drunk driver passed out in a running car in the drive through of a restaurant? If he had been walking in the sidewalk while intoxicated I would agree with you but not driving.
Were also suppose to forget that he just got out of jail for beating his kids. Thats why he didn't want to get arrested. It would have violated his parole.
Problem is the stupid law with DUI. Take his license and that’s it. Drunk driving should be fined and the licence taken away for a year! He shouldn’t end up in cuffs and of course not dead!
Jesus Joe, the last 20 minutes scared the shit out of me. How smart is this guy anyway? It takes an incredible intellect to see such minutiae so outside of a certain, accepted, pathway for discovery.
Yeah it rings very true that something like this could happen. I work in the scientific industry and it’s not what people imagine- labs are doing certain tasks that have been assigned to them , with established tools (ie. mice as model organisms) , they are not checking those tools, that’s not the job... there is no bandwidth. Animals for testing are strictly controlled and there are limited approved suppliers, species, etc.
Money is power. Follow it and you will find the evil that lurks in the shadows. Corruption is the leading cause of all problems we experience, and that is the desire for more wealth, for more power. Deception is the favorite tool to obtain more of it. The FDA is by far one of the most corrupt. The crappy food we consume, the food pyramid that is way wrong makes us sick. The reaction to this manufactured problem is to find medical help, to find drugs to only mask the problem but not fix it. To mask this problem costs $, to fix it costs way more, but to teach people other ways to prevent and treat illness is to lose money. I mean peanut allergies didn't just pop up out of the blue!!! How much does that EpiPen cost? My grandmother whose appendix ruptured and caused gangrene should have killed her. No, she was kept alive and put on so many drugs for 7 years. Her quality of life went from 10 to 0 and it tormented her for 7 whole years. The lovely smiling mother and grandmother my family adored had turned into something vile from the medication she was prescribed, something that overshadowed her true loving nature. She was unrecognizable. She had been turned into some sort of cattle drug companys and insurance companys made wealth off of. I completely and disdainfully condemn the FDA and the pharmaceutical industry, and I passionately refuse to seek medical help. I resort to holistic means of preservation and restoration.
Coffee Sploosh I am sorry for what you went through. But please be careful. There are many, many “snake oils” touted as holistic cures that do not work and are also just out there to separate consumers from their hard earned money. There is a middle ground.
The answer is - Bret is extraordinarily intelligent, however, it is worth nothing that he is also equipped with the best tools a person could have, and he is a master at wielding those tools. I am talking about the tools of science. Evolutionary Biology in particular is probably the very best proving ground for understanding of many things, including human sociopolitical issues.
State law was part of what happened with Brooks. Not to mention this man had a history of violent offenses, including against children, and was in jail for those felonies previously. A letter to the editor of the LA Times, summed it up well: “To suggest that the Atlanta police officers should have let Rayshard Brooks sleep it off or called his family to drive him home after he failed a sobriety test in a parking lot is completely ridiculous. You are overlooking the fact that he allegedly drove drunk in the first place, and he could have killed people. There are about 10,000 people killed by drunk drivers in the United States each year. Race should not play a role in determining the consequences of these actions.”
His prior record doesn't justify shooting him twice in the back when he took off running. The cop in this instance is being charged with felony murder. This case has nothing to do with his DUI infraction either. It's how police are unjustly killing citizens.
@@logike77 His prior record doesn't justify the shooting, it justifies the counter argument to "why not call his family" and "just let him sleep it off, he wasn't hurting anybody". Also, say what you want about the fact he was running away, he tried to use the stolen taser. "It was out of charges" and "it's non-lethal" are not valid counter arguments. It's easy to count charges from camera footage, try counting it in the middle of the road in what amounts to a brawl while there are plenty of things going on. Or here is another option to avoid this all together, don't run from cops. What justified him running? Did he think if he just touched some magical zone the cops would say "ah shucks, he got away again, oh well guess he's free"? It's lunacy to think that he had zero responsibility. To address the other problem, the DA involved can't even decide a taser is lethal force or not so saying "it's non-lethal" is beyond silly. Charging somebody with something doesn't mean they're guilty and only a corrupt judge would find the officers involved anything but innocent.
he completely ignored any action on the part of mr.brooks, he said drunk driving is "peaceful" and nothing "went wrong" until "they told him he was under arrest" what disingenuous jackass
You know this reminds me when he had Jack Dorcy on the 1st time and Joe was rightly dragged for it. The 2nd time its Tim Pool asking the hard questions and actually interviewing Jack not Joe. Joe barely says anything in that video. Just shows Joe isn't the "real" person he claims to be.
Not only that .. but nobody .. I mean nobody .. would have said that cops should let a white DUI suspect go home or order him an Uber. We all have to follow the same laws and suffer the same repercussions when we don't. The guy was on probation for child abuse. He had no business driving drunk and he should have been a man about it after being caught. With his selfish behavior he ruined the lives of two cops and caused more violence. I have no sympathy for Raychard.
Your podcast is what has become because you are so open to hear what someone has to say. Your willingness to discuss those topics that no one else is willing to dive into. Love the show.
@omnivore gains not at all. Joe is speaking out of emotions which are never the way to go. Especially when it comes to legal action. Bret is looking at the situation objectively and from a logical standpoint. Joe and others who share his opinion just want to lynch someone and they don't care about the details.
@@92MojoJojo You'd be surprised I think. In his most recent interviews (past year(?)), he seems totally on the ball. Unless they were merely old clips that were re-up'd.
@@Keilnoth Again, the act of drunk driving KILLS PEOPLE. If the cost of driving drunk was an uber ride and a ticket, more people would do it and you know it. The guy resisted arrest, stole a taser, then fired that taser at the officer. THATS what got him killed. Not simply driving drunk. Blaming the law or the officers in this case is absolutely ludicrous.
@@chrstop87 Well if they resist, act violently, steal a taser then you use proportional force to control them. I am fine with that, I am not arguing on that point. If you have a blood alcohol concentration of 0.08%, and it's your first, you don't need to go to jail, you didn't kill anyone, but you need to have a revocation of license and a huge fine that will give you some time to think about it. If you are a recidivist then you are banned forever from the road and might go to jail. That's what we have in most countries in Europe, it's called proportionality and on the side you can have prevention as to educate people.
@@Keilnoth If I shoot a gun into a crowd and miss every shot, should I go to jail? I didn't kill anyone. Would a ticket suffice? Of course not, because the act itself that I could have hurt or killed someone is what matters. I've clearly demonstrated I'm a danger to others and being sent to jail is the proper punishment. Rayshard Brooks BAC was not 0.08%, it was 0.108. Also, this was not his first DUI, and he was on probation, and he had a history of violating his probation. I lived in Europe for 4 years. I can't begin to explain the difference in culture in how we each view driving drunk. Europeans take it much more seriously than Americans do. And I think that's something that can be attributed to culture, not the laws. Americans get caught all the time driving with a suspended license because of multiple DUIs. It's disgraceful, and something I wish we as a country took more seriously.
@@chrstop87 Then we arrest everyone with a car and with a gun. What about the people who drive and text? Because DUI is only 1/3 of all the fatalities. Reckless driving is probably the rest. That's 20k lives, and 33k death by gun shot now that you mention it, are you going to ignore them? Doing so you put 5,000,000 people in jail every year just so that you will feel safer. There is no end to that except by solving root problems, like access to a better and cheaper education, prevention, and a better life overall, reduction of alcoholism in general and stop selling guns while you are at it.
I am so digging this conversation...this needs to be viewed, listened to in a really diverse multitude of different cultural population.This is a winning proposition.
Vincent M. Science in of itself is not. It has been used as a tool to enact racism in the past and maybe the future. The Tuskegee experiments are an example of such.
I don’t know the context yet because I haven’t watched yet but while I do agree with you, you could say hypothetically in a case where if black people are statistically more likely to do a crime that the science would be “racist” against them
When I was in high school, some friends and I were driving back home on a two lane road when the car in front of us disappeared in a cloud of dust. It was hit by an oncoming car and rammed off the road. The driver stumbled out drunk. I ran up to the car and this girl (I believe she was 19 IIRC) had the steering wheel pressed to her chest. They had to use the jaws of life to get her out. Her family told us later that she mad multiple broken bones, including ribs and her legs. All I could do was hold her hand and wait for the police to arrive because we couldn't get her out of the car. I'll never accept the premise that drunk driving is not dangerous. It's against the law, and it's bullshit.
private parts I think a lot of the people who are arguing on behalf of the driver are somehow missing the fact he drove from the bar to the Wendy’s drive thru, where he passed out. I see a lot of people talking about it as though he was just sitting in the parking lot minding his own business when the police showed up, without realizing, or perhaps without admitting, he was drunk driving prior to the encounter and then was blocking the drive thru, which is why police were called.
@@fatherplant73 this case not included because he wasn't driving: So if you're parents, siblings, kids were killed by a drunk driver WHO MADE A CHOICE TO DRIVE DRUNK, you don't believe they should pay with their life? This is strictly curiosity.
@@fatherplant73 At the very least Joe downplayed the severity of this guy driving drunk. He referred to him as "just drunk". There is a reason there is a stiff penalty for driving drunk. What I don't see is anyone suggesting that because he was drunk, he deserved to die. Up until this guy began fighting the police and attempted to shoot them with a taser (classified as a deadly weapon in GA), there was no reason to believe he was going to be shot. None of the evidence presented at this point even suggests that he was shot "because he was drunk".
I'm with you and I've been promoting alternative/new parties to end the duopoly for at least 10 years...but...and being as completely real and unbiased as I Can, I really see leftist democrats and their MSM collusion allies as the biggest danger we've seen in a long time. I'm not a huge Trump guy but I want him to succeed cuz he's our president and I want our country to do well. But leftists/msm/social media are actively conspiring to take him down and hurt the country. If they would just work to make things better I can't imagine how good things could be cuz things were very good before covid...but these crazies are just out out of their minds...i don't know how else to say it. I've just never seen a group try to hurt the people like they do
It wasn’t just that. He passed out drunk in the drive thru at Wendy’s stopping people behind him from ordering. Also was out on Parole so he KNEW he’d be going back to prison that’s why he ran. Also tazed that one cop and shot at him.
Dude, great call. He's such a riddle-talker. After each piece of riddle-speak, he tends to pause and look at his conversation partner as if to say, "Confused, right? Oh, you... Let me continue now to explain my amazing point." This reads as though I don't like Eric, but I do love him; just one of those idiosyncrasies.
Eric seems to have more sociopathic intellectual tendencies when speaking...almost as if he’s trying to confuse you even. One of his best qualities is thinking outside the box and coming up with unique ideas, which makes for a more entertaining listen but he can often become incoherent and absurd.
@@aidan5083 I think it should be more like "Not guilty of anything particular until proven guilty of that particular"... Innocent implies something different, though it has become the motto indeed. He is guilty of something, or a bunch of somethings, we just don't know exactly of what.
Sibby Eskie innocence is supposed to be the neutral state for all Americans until found guilty by a jury of their peers in a court of law. You are innocent, all of us, until you are guilty.
Jeremy Shaffer actually he is giving his opinion while still being respectful of joes opinion even if he disagrees. 3 hour long debate while both involved are being civil and respectful and willing to agree to disagree. Seems your comment shows who the douchbag is.
@Jeremy Shaffer I am sorry, but I honestly do not understand your point. How does Judaism have anything to do with this discussion, one way or the other? Cheers.
@@julianfischer1485 I would drop a time but that would give the option to not watch this entire episode. The last 20 minutes are the most essential to what Bret brought to the table.
Happy to see Bret Weinstein again with Joe Rogan, but god I miss Jordan Peterson! Their trio would make a great podcast about these interesting times. I hope he'll come back soon!
I just commented on hoping Peterson is gonna come back. I swear that guy was a godsend and many didn't listen to him. For what he actually stood for, improving yourself and resisting authoritarian rule, he got an insane amount of grief in the media.
I believe Jordan just made a blog post titled "Missives of Appalling Idiocy and Envy Embarrassing to Behold". I'd love to see him back too. We have a lot of chaos and not much antidote these days.
@@invin7215 It was a good read. And by good, I mean it was a very well and logically thought out criticism of the appalling social justice and identity politics-based decisions that are being made right now in the sciences. Thought policing must end. I'm glad Bret threw the gauntlet on the table early - suggesting this very real potential outcome: civil war. This is a very important moment - we must be unafraid to tell the truth. Would love your thoughts on this article I wrote a few days ago... www.whyihatepolitics.com/2020/06/11/i-oppose-corruption/
I think it's not a failure of reason, because in order for reason to fail it would have to be employed in one way or another. Majority of people arent inclined to think at all, so reason/logic never even gets a chance todau
Honestly, this is all about power and who has it. Not taking this into account gives false judgment. So, not considering this factor causes us to think that this is a lack of reason, but actually it is completely reasonable when considering that it is about power. Kind of like Nancy and her golf tour clap. She had the power and she knew it, we didn't.
I haven't heard about shutdown STEM. So if anyone had doubts about BLM's goal knowing that it was started by Marxist this is definite proof. They want to get rid of democracy and create a socialist state. They need to weaken our government and economy to do so and a good way to do that is shutdown STEM. Which country would benefit extensively from US technological destruction? That would be China. There needs to be an investigation of links between China, BLM and Antifa. BLM and Antifa are the useful idiots that will get pushed aside once the government is torn down and the elitist globalist move in with socialist rule. Democrats are fellow travelers enabling this movement.
Did you see the video? The officer shot him after he missed with the taser.. the taser only had 1 shot.. he shot him out of anger to punish Mr. Brooks for running.. I am sorry bro that pig should fry...
@@jessicalawrence6967 Correlation doesn't necessarily equal Causation, but it sure does make ya wonder. If by those things, you mean the de-valuing of the family unit and the Nuclear Family generally, then I would agree. A Nuclear family is of the utmost importance, because in fatherless households, the statistics about how much more likely you are to do drugs, join a gang, end up in prison, live off the state, and/or die, is up by multiple 100s of percentages.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 This correlation has been proven to be causation by numerous sociological studies from the early 70's up to now. Unfortunately, now, most of the social sciences have been hijacked by post modern idiots that don't believe in statistical analysis nor even objective reality.
falls under the category of substance issues which is a category people are saing needs a different response- I say send a team for substance issues. I say a team of three: one cop with gun, one cop without a gun that is trained in martial arts, and one psychiatrist/medical person. All are good and trained in deescalation. the work together. the guy without the gun is key cause he (sometimes she) can control the situation physically cause they aren't worried about their non existent gun from being taken. medical person will do most of the interaction most of the time probably. other two people are support. dd is serious. i don't know the penalties, but it should probably be viewed as attempted manslaughter in a sense.
Punch a cop get shot. Cops job isn’t to take blows to the head in the hopes they stay conscious and the attacker doesn’t take their gun. What is this 4th grade? God people are stupid
@@rockydelforge999 Thats a great idea! We all need to make 10% more with overtime or another job though. Treating situations like this in that way is only going to cost us 110% in taxes. Maybe just put all 3 on each street corner and free healthcare and free college and expand welfare and, and, and.......
Drunk driving makes you kill people, thousands of avoidable deaths all around the world every year result from that. In most European countries you'll get banned from driving if ever caught drunk, and for good reason, but at least it's scientific - we use alcohol meters, not some silly 'walk the line' methods.
@@doommaker47 We also use breathalyzer tests here in the states, blood test too to further prove your level of intoxication if it's just obscenely high. They usually start with the whole Walk the Line, touch your nose, say your ABC's backwards and the eye stigma test to give them further proof of your physical incapacitation. If they refuse to do the breathalyzer test in field, and they failed all the physical tests, the officer can transport them back the station and get a blood draw done.
Joe is going WAY too easy on Rayshard. He fought those cops because he was pass-out drunk-driving and on parole and would've been sent back to the can. Joe acting like this "good guy" should be treated like real murder victims like Floyd and others (idk if he mentions them later in the episode, but I'd be happy to list off a few!) is a disgrace to real victims of police brutality. Turns out, you can't assault two cops, punch them both, give one a concussion, steal their taser, tase one, then try to tase the other without being shot. He wasn't "unarmed," like the media keeps claiming. He's not the victim there. I know it seems like a weird hill for me to die on, but I've been pissed about legitimate police brutality for almost a decade now, ever since Kelly Thomas, and the media being dishonest in an attempt to make this a race war thing and divide us is nauseating. They won't talk about a Tony Timpa, Kelly Thomas, or Daniel Shaver (Shaver got a little bit of coverage, but no outrage), and they'll ALWAYS title an article "black man shot by police!!" and then at the bottom mention he murdered his wife and then started shooting at the cops BEFORE they killed him. That distracts from real victims like Tamir Rice or Robert Crawford III or Philando Castille. I'm just so goddamned tired of it. They lie all the time, and it's tearing us apart when we have to come together as brothers and sisters and help this country grow. We SERIOUSLY need the media to step up and be honest and use REAL statistics and honest studies, like Roland Fryer study from 2016, so we can start our discussions on reform based on FACTS and not "lived experiences" and feelings. Idk, what do you think?
@A N Brett has more to say on the subject but chose not to press joe on it. Joes expertise doesn’t matter if the guy in question isn’t an expert either
@@elontusk610 joes expertice on choking fuckers is completely irrelevant anyhow. Floyd died; knowing that choking someone in a certain way can kill them is useless information at this point. You aren't a murderer because something you do leads to someones death, you are a murderer because you knew it would, and you did it anyhow. Determing if the man is a murder is a matter of determining his intentions, not his actions. His actions are obvious. His intentions are not.
Bret created this monster with his leftist views. He just didn’t like it when the monster turned on him. Like Stalin said Bret is a “Useful Idiot” he was an Allie until he was more useful to be shamed as a tool of the left. Hopefully he has taken an honest look at his views.
Talking about America. And in America poor white folks get tossed in jail and so do pour blacks at a disproportionate number to rich folks. Is that hard to see?
@@michaeld8555. Maybe that's what op ment. Either way, i definitely agree with you, but i can't say I've listened to him enough to be able to argue one way or the other.
@@michaeld8555 I listened to Sowell for an hour the other day, arguing something not much different from that. That the minimum wage removed jobs from these communities and the welfare state caused fatherless homes. This leaves young black men with no fathers and no jobs, then they get up to no good.
If a white man went full psycho on two nice police pfficers and took them to the ground, punched one in the face, stole his weapon, and fired it at him.... noone would bat an eye. Seems privileged to me. Also the cop that didnt even shoot rayshard is getting charged with aggravated assault? The cops were gentle with rayshard. Thats why rayshard was able to hurt them and steal there weapon and get away. They didnt assault him at all, in fact if they wanted to they couldve beat tf out of him. A 2v1 is not winnable in a situation like that.
yes, AND it looks like some people don't mind calling this mess what it is... the deep entrenchment of identity politics in our political, media, business, and scientific institutions - and that those misguided ideologues are calling for civil war. Make no mistake about it, that's what this is leading to. We must be ardent in our commitment to free speech. We must oppose corruption, and be critical of our favorite institutions where they have failed, as well - such that this is a non-partisan movement toward empirical truth, and NOT just a regression back into politics. Here's something I wrote a week ago - why free speech is so integral to our very humanity. www.whyihatepolitics.com/2020/06/11/i-oppose-corruption/
"Echos of slavery" bro? I grew up in predominantly black nieghborhoods, in Baltimore Md, I literally went through the same life as the black Americans around me. Same poverty that effected them effected me, and still does today. I have a job I got when I was 19 and discipline myself to stay there surviving paycheck to paycheck. Still struggle, still paycheck to paycheck. Slavery? Reperations? Come on Joe!
Definitely. Brett says science will help families out the most. But I disagree, having a loving father and loving mother help infinitely more. We need less broken families which lead to anger, hate, violence and despair. People who are loved, feel that love and give love are not violent and hateful.
@@dionysusnow I’ve seen insanity by both sides last year. A liberal that drives around in his car alone with a mask on. A conservative who thinks Corona virus is myth.
Over 90% of psychological research is not about addressing the human condition but rather towards effective mind control. The object is usually to control consumer decision making.
I graduated Evergreen the year before the uprising: speaking at our graduation was an unknown black female guest who insisted strongly that she was going to help ‘take back the school’ and we were sitting in the rain, like ‘lady we just want to get through this’
@Michael Cera I hear yah. Though to be fair, even medicine will be taken over by AI. Honestly, I would trust a computer that has access to medical databases and journals, and has seen millions of diagnostic images, over a human to diagnose me.
Full summary: 0:01 The Evergreen incident and Bret predicting social unrest 3:02 Bret talks about occupy movements and "Occupy 2.0" 3:48 Defunding the police 6:08 Joe´s thoughts on the Rayshard Brooks incident 7:53 Bret has been hit/beaten twice by cops 8:43 About Jocko´s recent appearance on the podcast (and his views on training cops) 12:00 Bret talks about the Clinton administration, Republicans, and the political (and social) US system (long discussion) 27:49 Bret explains "critical theory" and what it has morphed into 32:14 On academia being liberal 41:27 Talking about one of Bret´s best students, and her experience with being bullied by other students 54:50 Bret´s thoughts about Dave Chapelle 1:00:02 Bret on the George Floyd murder 1:10:15 Joe "I´m an expert on choking people" Rogan 1:14:10 Talking about the Eric Garner case 1:19:22 Bret on the black community in the US and arresting/taking men out of society 1:35:54 Bret´s plan to fix the political situation in the US 1:44:22 Discussing Joe Biden 1:50:03 On Trump (Bret: "He is a political genious") 2:06:46 Looking at videos that make fun of Trump (including "baby Trump") 2:10:22 Discussing covid-19 and conspiracy theories (Bret won´t dismiss the lab-conspiracy theory) 2:19:03 Bret´s thoughts on covid-19 and testing 2:20:30 On the efficacy of masks agains covid-19 2:22:00 Joe on hunting and axis deer 2:26:01 Discussion about covid-19 continues, including bats and China 2:40:03 On aging (and different research groups competing against each other) 2:58:30 Bret clears up a comment that Eric (his brother) made about him on the JRE podcast. (Note: I do summaries for all the JRE episodes. If you subscribe, you´re more likely to see my summaries in the comment section^^)
I live in Korea. When I got here 17 years ago, there were few foreign cars in my city. You'd see them in other cities where there was a higher concentration of wealth, but not here. Now they're all over. Why are Koreans doing so well a single generation after their country was nearly annihilated? Education. I hear these two talking about systemic racism, vestigial racism, whatever. Education can change everything in a single generation. Who's blocking this? Why don't we start there?
There's people who want to get educated and be better off, then there's people who want to play victim and be spoon fed to be better off. Guess who's who.
@@LegoPa . Fair enough, Larry, but judging from "There's people," I'll take your take with a grain of 소금. To my way of thinking, the Left has hemmed blacks in with victimhood and zero education options, all while pandering to them and taking the moral high ground. Blacks from the West Indies excel the general population, as do Nigerian immigrants. It's NOT their race; it's their culture.
A lot of so called SJWs are college educated, and the ones screaming of cancel culture are (I believe) of university educated middle class demographics. Education is indeed important, but the question is what education? The notoriety of our current cultural climate would still be inevitable if ideology-biased courses are being taught, i.e. creating false education.
This is the conversation I've been itching for Bret to have with Joe after listening to Bret's podcast thru the shutdown. Especially about the Dark Horse Duo! So glad the lab leak discussion is getting a wider audience now, too.
YES - I feel like I was commenting on both their twitters often, trying to make sure they did this. Not claiming any credit - just incredibly happy. You might like an article I wrote about the necessity of free speech in this time of emergent thought policing... Bret and Heather are amazing (and check out Coleman Hughes, Glenn Loury, and John McWhorter)! www.whyihatepolitics.com/2020/06/11/i-oppose-corruption/
This started off great and I think Brett was really zoned in and making great meaningful points and it really could have been the right talk at the right time....then Joe's TDS kicked in and it went off the rails and what could have been historic ended up talking about Trump memes and baby clips
He talks about all the dangers that the republic is facing and decries protesters as being “maoists”, yet at the same time proposes a drafting system that undermines American democracy entirely. Then he started talking about hypotheticals (which have been debunked by U.S. scientists) about Covid-19, not understanding a god damn thing about virology. The way he talks about outdoor transmittal and viral evolution is so incredibly amateur and wrong. We know what coronavirus is weak towards because it’s based entirely on its structure. We have known that sunlight (a specific EMS of it) and soap destroy it. For an “intellectual”, Bret sure likes to peddle in idiocy and conspiracy theories. Christ.
@@Bradly1983 if the dude fights two cops successfully and gets a taser from them do you really think he's going to go to court for another charge on top of violating parole?
I like Bret but he takes out of the equation personal responsibility. I grew up in a poor area a 1 bedroom apartment with 7 people. My public school was poorly funded. My parents were to self involved with each other and their own cycle that I didn’t get the same kind of up bringing as a typical family. To top it off I am disabled . And until I was 23 I was basically doing nothing with my life held on to how unfair the system was held on to the anger. Until one day I looked around and realized I was a mouse on a wheel and so were my family and the reason they couldn’t see it was because they still held on to their own pain too. The minute I realized that is when my life changed . I moved 1000 miles across the country got into school and bought a house 2 years later all while still in school full time working and only making 18k a year. Was it hard? Yes . Did I have to slave away and not spend any money on anything and barely eat to accomplish my goals? Yes. But was it impossible? No. My point is that the current corruption in the system only works if people THINK they can’t get ahead because that’s ultimately the only thing stopping them and if they ever realized that the elites would no longer be able to use that anger as a form of control because there is more of us then there are of them. I’m not saying it’s easy to get out of that life or leave your family but in the end it comes down to how bad you want it and how badly you don’t want to end up like everyone around you and the first step is self reflection and personal responsibility. Like Morgan free man once l said there are busses leaving every single day
I agree with you 100% about personal responsibility, except the people who need to take responsibility don't see that. I've spent years volunteering with youth in my community. I can to you that for most of them, life is just something that happens to them. They don't understand the extent that they have control over it. There are systematic changes that still need to occur within some communities so that it's not just one or two people breaking out, but many people breaking out. It's obvious that many people are capable of breaking the cycle, the question is why don't they and can we change that?
That's a great story. Thanks for sharing that. I hope that you consider mentoring young people at some point in your life. I think that with your background, they'd really listen to you.
I live in Atlanta, that dude is one of the people in this town that drives around recklessly while shit hammered on Saturday night..... every weekend, especially since covid one of those scumbags wrecks into someone on I-85 and kills someone or swerves across 5 lanes at 110 mph and causes a wreck 10 miles long. Im over the stupid shit! Its gotten bad here and im tired of people making excuses for it! We need more police and stricter rules like El Salvador. If i grabbed a cops taser and tried to run off shooting him and was shot by the cops for it, my family would be embarrassed of me and wouldnt have cried like babies. I would have been a scar on my familys name.
@@slippythefrog Lol I love how people like this literally hear the exact opposite of what a person is saying. Bret: "We need to not make assumptions and use the scientific process to find Truth." RUclips idiots: OMG HE JUST ASSUMES HE'S CORRECT AND SO SMART
I’m reading the comments and all I see are comments on the drunk guy in Atlanta when the BIGGEST issue on this podcast was the issue of the scientists not being able to tackle a huge statistical flaw in their research.
Totally agree, I came down to the comment seccion to see what ppl think about that subject...and almost no one is interested about that extremely important matter...
Discovering Bret Weinsten and the Darkhorse podcast was one of the few things that delivered common sense and hope to me during the worst of the pandemic lock downs.
Also watch Bret's channel. It always amuses me how nearly 4 million people watch this in a few days, but he gets less than 100k people on his own videos. Same with a lot of other guests on Joe's show. For some reason, people are happy to watch them talking to Joe, but have no interest in them talking on their own podcasts to other intelligent people.
@@thealexanderbond To many people to follow, the amount of knowledge that can be consumed and discussed is endless - that's why Joe is a good podcast, he brings people that have real knowledge in their own field.
Joe: I believe the courts should decide! Joe: Based on that, I say he's guilty! Joe, I don't think you actually understand what Bret was very timidly getting at. The point is, your opinion is irrelevant, the Justice system and the Jury need to make that determination.
Yes, a cornerstone of the American ethos. Innocent until proven guilty...Joe really was naive on this. Almost seemed like an act. Pandering for Spotify?
I think Joe’s point is that like... for the sake of podcasting and having a coherent conversation he gave his opinion but ultimately believes any service of justice should come from a court.
Yeh cause judge and jury did so well with Rodney King. See that video????? Where was the trial held???? Watched LA burn in 92. Weinstein is in lala land.
I think most of us are playing checkers that's why Joe is a good representation of the average folk which is good because Brett have to be very persuasive and repeat himself 5 times to make his point trough.
“If we are going to start sacrificing people because there is a mob of people threatening to turn the place upside down then you know what that is, right?... then we aren’t America anymore” damn, this gave me goosebumps.
@@brontsmoth671 some of the only things really stolen or damaged by the tea party was the tea thrown in the harbor. They broke a crewmembers padlock on thr ship and they replaced it lol. I've seen documented that they looted a mansion owned by a loyalist. They went out of their way to not harm private property..alot. They always targeted specifically loyalists etc. Not random businesses or citizens.
Bret seemed surprised that scientists resisted his discovery about the telomeres, apparently to save their own reputations, prestige, or funding. This and and what that quote described happens in every society that has ever existed. Now, thanks to the Web, we're just finding out about it more. Same for the reliability of the media. It's been remarked that our current situation is like the invention of the printing press. That wound up letting ideas spread farther and faster, including Luther's. Ditto translations of the Bible into the vernacular (before that, only people who knew Latin could read it). And that resulted in the Hundred Years' War. Look it up some time. Civilization is more fragile than you think. Fasten your seat belts, kiddies. It's going to be a bumpy ride.
So stupid dude. They tried kneeling and the entire right wing media and government tried to ruin careers and reputations and killed even more unarmed people the last few years. They are doing what is right. 2 guys hunted down a jogger to murder and got away with it until the video. All these other cases, without protesters these cops ar getting off the hook with crazy ideas like police immunity. Here's the reality backed up by our own congressional reports on much of the police force. They are racists who got a job with immunity a badge and a gun and kill way too often. That's just a fact, over the last couple of decades white supremacist groups have internally communicated to each other a strategy to get into law enforcement. This is not my made up theory like Bret does. These are actual western scientifically produced research documents chartered and present to the United states Congress that right now the Republican party is fighting to keep secret via heavy redactions but people who've read it and the unredacted versions tell us this is the reality. The Republicans are just trying trying to keep the gory details more secret because they know that their base would revolt if the report was released and public pressure forced the government to purge the racists and replace them with a different kind of officer... If the cops really worried about their safety they'd be 1st in line for massive gun control but they aren't because many are right wing racists living a job that gives them a chance to do their thing and hunt humans for any minor violation of the law in black communities.
Because joe's a dummy. Imagine how good these interviews would be if Joe actually tried to learn how to be a good interviewer. But hes so far up his own butt he probably thinks hes a flawless interviewer.
Fascinating to listen to Bret recently on Carlson versus three years ago. On this video, he is in the initial steps of being red-pilled. On Tucker, he is dramatically further along in the process. I am sure that the last few years outside of the university environment have been critical in his journey.
Or at least someone with a better grasp on history and political economy. They are drawing very broad conclusions not based in historical context nor statistical fact.
This guest is perfect for the times we are in and the first 20 min. uou should digest and quit overlooking everything there saying cause you disagree w one or two things. People are so strange and emotional these days.
I've commented over and over again recently on JRE but at this time - the closest public figures you can still get might be Glenn Loury, John McWhorter or Coleman Hughes. I figure John fits Joe's audience best for this affair but I could be wrong...
Well said. Joe doesn’t get it because hes a ‘woke’ Californian. Im 7 hours through this audio book right now this current situation echoes the communist revolutions of China and Russia.
I don’t believe I have much to add to this conversation right now but I want you all to know that I love you all! And I hope to live in a better world with you in the future
@@bighands69 Because they don't like to think and have been indoctrinated to hate those who speak with reason but it goes against their hard left beliefs. Beliefs which have benign ''titles'' but have insidious and extremely vague/ignorant underlying motives.
Back in the day. When busted? Cops wouldn't let ya continue. And find a way to get chya home. . And with tech today. It would be wayyy easie to assure a driver home once caught. Madd Lobbied that one misjudgment "though can be catastrophic to other sharing the road." Is possible to ruin ones life. That's why guys run and fight. And ultimately. Could die. Saving lives on the road. Turned into ruining others targeted?
@@lasselyng6420 Did you not see the video of Brook's arrest? Everything was civil and fine until he realized he was going back to prison. A man on parole, caught behind the wheel of a vehicle while drunk. Brooks escalated everything and got himself killed.
That’s cause joe rogan is a bit stupid , this happens a lot on his podcasts he is not an intellectual and struggles to understand points like this regularly.
Exactly! I understand his point and he is making a valid one and it's just like the me too movement which is fucking scary because it's basically making u guilty and u gotta prove innocence! That's a slippery slope when ur trying to convict someone or cancel someone without due process or there side of the story!! The left scare the fuck outta me because this is the type of shit they want! And guess what when they get it and it comes knocking on there door they will turn into Republicans real quick fuckin hypocrites
I mean if you listen Joe is suggesting just not being arrested. Obviously you don't let him keep driving and the ticket should be a big one. What this does is take out the possibility of injury or death to a cop or civilian
I hope everyone who says “let him walk home” has the opportunity to have a loved one mercilessly and brutally killed by a drunk driver and see what their opinion is then.
@@rhugginsj25 This guy was out on parole, he was in jail for beating his child. He is a felony child abuser. Driving drunk was a violation of his parole and he was going back to jail. You think he would have complied with some social worker when the result was him still going back to jail for violation of his parole? Both you and Joe are living in some fantasy world. He was willing to do anything to avoid going back behind bars. By the way I lost an uncle to a drunk driver. All drunk drivers can burn in hell.
"The purpose of a system is what it does. Don't listen to what someone says a system is for, look at what the system accomplishes, that's what it's for."
The same can be said for groups like BLM or Antifa. Their actions define what they are about. What they say they are about is their attempt at manipulation.
@@Mistersamweller And, like any organization, the goals will be unachievable or constantly evolving to keep the organization in power long after it's served its purpose. Look at MADD - founded to implement nationwide drunk driving regulations. Now that that's done, they just keep on lobbying for lower and lower BAC limits.
If only we had clear vision, and were capable of grasping everything that a system does. It is unfortunate that we do not. And as a result, people disagree about what a system does.
@@adefay4385 the stuff joe finds really funny is in reality lame as fuck. Or how he was always pushing that one comedians video on everyone like a year ago that did the faceswap with kim kardashian or somethin and it wasnt funny at all. I mean, not bad, but still lame. Joe's like the friend that still asks you if you saw the new Southpark the other night
Ya Joe talks like he sees things deeply and acts all enlightened but dude really is repeating all mainstream narratives in this. Most of his Trump criticisms aren't accurate at all. I usually like hearing his thoughts but here he's sounding a lot like another talking head
Visiting this in hindsight, joe was absolutely wrong about gf. DC WAS sacrificed. The other guy that was in GF's car was his killer. Gave him the fentynal. Knee wasn't even on neck it was on back.
James Morrison I agree you don’t need to be an officer if you can’t arrest someone without resorting to lethal means.. but are you aware that the man being arrested gave one cop a concussion and stole his taser then tried to flee and whilst fleeing turned and aimed the taser towards the officers to fire it at them, thus resulting in one of them to open fire. If you believe you are being wrongly arrested then you fight it in court, as evidence shows that when you fight back against it WHILE you are being arrested you just made everyone’s day more complicated, mainly your own. Plus as it was previously stated, he drove there drunk. He didn’t get there and then smash a bunch of liquor in the drive through then pass out. So yeah, he was gonna be arrested no matter how you cut it.
Sure arrest drunk drivers. PLEASE arrest them. Please do it without losing control of the weapons YOU bring to the situation. Please do it without killing a man.
To joe's point, the deterrent would be having to go to court and deal with the ticket. In practice, I don't think the ticket would amount to a small debt. It would most likely be a huge fine. i.e the deterrent.
@SPQR - yeah we arrest them, you're not supposed to shoot them in the back while running away. Running away? Let them! Call back up, check your mate that is on the ground, get in your car and follow the guy (who was on foot). There was LITERALLY dozens of ways to deal with this guy rather than shooting him.
Isn’t it crazy that if Brooks woke up , still drunk , and caused an accident that killed someone you wouldn’t know his name . Instead , he’s now another martyr. I don’t understand Joe’s premise of “ just call him an Uber .” It only enables someone to drink and drive which of course , has tragic consequences .
I've been saying this. Imagine if he passed out at a busy intersection instead of a Wendy's drive-thru. Not only would no one know his name, his victims would most likely just be another set of DUI statistics.
I almost lost my shit when Joe was like he didn't do anything serious he was just sleeping in his car. He was driving drunk b4 he fell asleep. Just because he didn't kill anyone THIS time and fell asleep doesn't matter he was driving while intoxicated. People go to jail for that every day. He would have went to drunk tank for few hrs and been out. Instead he fought an officer and here we are....
Not 100% wrong . You don’t know history ... if you did know history , I wouldn’t have to message to remind you of your historical ignorance . But it’s too late for people like you anyway , so I’m wasting my time with reaching out to you ✌️
"Talking reasonably and super civil" yet he grabs their taser... nice brush over from joe. They shouldn't have shot him but fmd, you can't sit there acting like the guy was nice as pie
The conversation with Jocko was a lot more solution oriented and addressed one of the most important issues in high tension moments, the current inability of many officers to deescalate the situation.
So, I guess Joe is the judge, jury and executioner? Joe 'string him up' Rogan? I guess Joe has spoken with the coroner personally? Interviewed doctors? Investigated actual prior conversations between the two? Bret's point: Due Process will lead to an unknown. Just ask O.J.
I think we should have a "none of the above" option when we vote. And if none of the above win we run it again with different people
You might be on to something here
That's the idea of voting for a third party. They won't win but it will show other politicians that they can get support for those ideas.
you have, just make 20 X's and draw a dick on the voting sheet, your vote counts but its invalid.. actually I don't know if thats possible or if it accomplishes anything in the US with its 2 party system.
@@butter_nut1817 I've voted libertarian in the last three elections. Maybe four. Going back to Michael badnarik. Whenever that was.
Ranked voting would be better
"We have a serious problem...it's a general systemic failure of reason"
-Bret Weinstein
Bret has always been,bravely, sounding the alarm. When 1 set of ppl own the language they then enslave discourse. Free speech & reason” are not on the menu. You are.
Joe “IM OK WITH A PRIOR VIOLENT HISTORY & DRUNK DRIVING PEOPLE AND JUST CALLING THEM AN UBER” Rogan
@@SFbayArea94121 I have to agree with Joe on this one. If they're not threatening anyone (regardless of their history [unless they have a tendency towards violence and are in possession of a deadly weapon]) then I don't see a problem with them being driven home, or even charged with disorderly conduct and booked...But KILLING them? That's not right.
@@chrisadkins6394 Not threatening anyone?? How many people do drunk drivers kill per year, f***wit??
@@chrisadkins6394 He got behind the wheel drunk. So, umm... no to the rest of it. You get behind the wheel drunk, you know the consequences. Tired of the stupidity. Enough. I've paid way, way more than I wanted to for an Uber - home and back - before. But guess what? I made the choice to drink too much. Choices have consequences. Had he made the right choices, he'd still be alive. End of story.
"Joe Biden ... is not an answer to any known question " - greatest insult ever. 1:45:18
Neither is Trump,...unless it's in reference to the "perp" in a variety of investigations.
Hahaha the fact that joe Biden is even in the presidential election is embarrassing to America.
@@dallasbillet8273 twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1273977953462951937
Since when was objective truth an insult? Happy coincidence, I suppose.
My family still living in Germany don't like Trump but they're realizing they agree with him about a lot. They cannot understand what happened to the Democratic Party? The Berlin Wall DDR just came down in 1989 but American DEMOCRATS are pushing socialism or the beginnings of what always becomes socialism! That post modernism for you! Failures of the past can be explained by intersectionality of postmodernism as it rejects the entire idea of free debate, science, or TRUTH INDEPENDENT OF WHITE MALE POWER.
This conversation exemplifies the reason I keep tabs on the Joe Rogan Experience. Valuable, excellent!
"non-violent", driving while piss drunk often ends with innocent people being killed
Exactly!!!! Tens of thousands lose their lives every year due to drinking and driving.
No one's saying that he shouldn't have been punished for what he was doing, just he didn't deserve to die for it.
---- True. Joe Joe got off the rails for a minute.
@@admonishedAlligator When you get caught drunk driving, you get arrested. When you RESIST arrest, you risk your life. What's the problem?
@@admonishedAlligator he didn't get shot for drunk driving. Joe talks about how polite he was but failed to mention that the 2 police officers were also very polite and respectful to him. Up until he started beating the shit out of them, stole their weapon and fired it at them.
It's the same problem people have been talking about for years now- the political system in the US has been bought off by corporations and neither political party actually represents the interests of the people, especially not the interests of the working class. The issue is not 'systemic racism'. The issue is systemic corruption. The US Government is no longer "of the people, by the people, for the people", that's the issue.
And they want it that way. Which is why they utterly try to destroy a truth teller like Tulsi Gabbard who's entire message was literaly that.
100%
@@michaelk6818we can get rid of our corrupt government, but this doesn't mean toss our bill of rights out the window. Like hello. Tulsi was against the 2nd amendment and also supported Russia gate. Think man. Im all for rebuilding, but don't toss the constitution by supporting a women who wants to take away your right to defend yourself.
And we needed a corporate businessman as president? Way to go trumpers.
Pneuma the same with governments the world over
Weinstein: He should be tried in a court of law.
Rogan: I agree. He's guilty.
it really annoyed me how Joe just REFUSED to entertain the idea that the footage isnt the whole story, purely detracting from the bigger point that, i beleive Scott Adams put it 'if you see a video, its fake'. All you have to do is look at some of Lefty twitters videos, they crop out context of certain events. We have to ask questions like 'why is the camera filming in this spot? who is behind the camera and whats their intention? are there actors or lies being done and said? what happened before and after the video stopped?'
the point is the video is inherently a limited view on something, him just detracting by thinking what he saw was all he needs to know is ridiculous. Floyd was saying he couldnt breathe before being on the ground, he resisted arrest, how do we know he wasnt lying in order to try to get a window of opertunity to fight or escape? maybe thats why they didnt beleive him saying he couldnt breathe when on the floor... These things are invaluable to deciding EXACTLY what happened. 1st and 3rd degree murder are entirely different charges, overcharging lets him off, but in any case, we need to be ACCURATE if the insitutuion of the courts is to mean anything
Joe so clueless to what he's trying to say.. the video is not all of the evidence.
Please get the admiral & Yang on Joe Rogan to announce their candidacy- urgently!
Not even paraphrasing 😂
Joe missed the point so fucking hard that it pissed me off
Hey joe. Your never going to see this, but your podcast is the only thing that gets me through work and when I’m alone at my house. Your very wise and I take every thing you say in. Your voice has become a symbol of realization for me
Not to wise on brooks though. Getting so drunk that you pass out while driving isn't a victimless crime. It's not like smoking weed in ur house. His opinion would absolutely change if a drunk driver drives over his daughter.
Ditto ☝️😉
@@jasonwitt3423 ?
@@davidchambers420 what's the ? about?
@jasonwitt3423 what point were you trying to get across? Am I missing some serious context here?
30 people die everyday in the US due to impaired driving, and you can’t comprehend why the police even needed to respond? It’s not a victimless crime Joe.
Drunk driving is an issue, you're absolutely right. However to be thrown in jail and handcuffed over a mistake that can't be right? Drunks aren't criminals they need help. Now do I think they should be left off the hook? Absolutely not its a dangerous act that can lead people to be hurt hence the idea to fine them and let their fate be decided in court.
Hauser Hooch Joe was so impressed with how polite and peaceful the guy was while he was trying to fitness his way out of going to jail. Apparently, Joe doesn't realize everyone is polite and peaceful while they're trying to talk the cops out of arresting them.
@@isaiahsevere4192 He was in a drive through WITH THE VEHICLE RUNNING.
@@TheBlackB0X He wasn't operating the vehicle, he was sleeping it off. Could have just had the heating on waiting till he sobered up. Legally speaking he was not operating the vehicle and had no reason to arrest him. Drunk driving is terrible but this wasn't it. Cops should have never taken it that far
@@kofiaddison5402 He had to have driven there to have been pass out in the driveway... people called the cops because he wasn't responding.
GET THOMAS SOWELL ON BEFORE HE LEAVES US 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
He's not going to go on this, he barely does interviews, he shies from the spotlight.
Yes please
Oh lord, prepare for Joe's first 5 hour pocast!
Rogan really needs to talk to Thomas Sowell. Walter WIlliams or even Larry Elder would be good substitues, though.
@@elijahrusso5403 i second Larry
You have to arrest drunk drivers. They kill people. This guy had not pulled over to rest. He passed out in a drive threw with his car running.
It's not like I am some MADD activist. I got a DUI when I was 20. I deserved it and I am lucky to not have killed somebody.
Few things in my life I'm ashamed off, but driving drunk is one of them . Was never caught but that's no excuse
Joe doesn't care. He loves it when people die... He makes money off of it indirectly.
Nicholas Flemming how?
I wish they had just arrested and handcuffed him right after he failed to the sobriety test. He’d be alive today most likely.
THANK YOU. Now I don't have to type this
This aged so well. Very calm conscious discussion.
I was literally just thinking the same thing…I assume you were talking about the George Floyd section.
How about now? Do you still think it aged well after the last year?
Yeah, I do think it still ages well. Not to say every notion is correct, and we shouldnt expect it to be. However, it is still very refreshing to hear valid articulated points and then a genuine discussion. Rarely happens anymore imo.
Bret Weinstein: “a general, systemic failure of reason”.
Best description of humanity I’ve ever heard.
We ended natural selection, and you just cannot do that without ruining everything. If you did that with any other animal species (especially a domesticated one) it would become garbage specimens very quickly.
What's reason then?
@@ReekRendTest1 I used to think that but I'm not sure that's entirely true. Yes, anyone can procreate. NO, anyone can't just procreate with someone with sought after characteristics such as intelligence etc (and implied genetic heritage). There is still absolutely genetic selection going on, with more intelligent and successful people attracting better mates, and vice versa. We can see this play out in increasingly stratified western societies. Genes are not naturally selected against now, but certain phenotypic traits are still highly selected for/against, which determines which gene pool you are going to go into. I totally accept that this is not as severe and limiting as natural selection, but there is clearly something going on with humans. Also I really think we should be mindful of the next potential stage in human evolution, as laid out by Elon Musk and Neuralink - at some point in the near-ish future we are going to start to assimilate with our technology. This will transform humans to god-like capabilities in terms of processing and memory. At present, there is no single human who can know everything about every human specialism in tech and science. The world is just too complex now. 200 years ago, it was absolutely possible for 1 person to generalise across all specialisms, just about. But the next stage in human evolution will likely not be brought about by hungry predators, but by technology. If/when we merge with computer processors/memories, it will be possible for single humans to absorb all of the information across all tech/science specialties. At that time, analog humans of the previous 2 millenia will be looked at as cavemen. Basically what I'm saying is don't think that natural selection is the only force that can change the nature of humanity, because the future is unwritten.
Ben the intelligent are breeding less than everyone else. Who’s winning the genetic lottery now? Natural selection doesn’t care about individual characteristics, it cares about numbers.
Not letting people fail evolutionarily is bad for the progress of the species.
Not that progress is the end all be all goal, I suppose.
I left my comments on the shorter version. But essentially I’ve said the same deal, had a hardcore blm apologize and admit the justice is not there.
"It is unfortunately, a zombified collective, fighting a boogeyman that they have invented." Quote of the year.
you liked that one huh
Dion Martinez “quote of the year” 😂
Joey Jacklin 😂 right when he said that in the video I’m like aw hell nah they’re gonna eat that one up.
Unless there is a boogeyman.. that ppl who r woke n can admit is true, And only operating because we are divided and can't see where this is going..
Other then the obvious abuse of power in the pass.. we see the obvious reason for worry when the ppl in power can at any time make us all slaves again.. like was said in this podcast we act like everything is ok and good but we see the trends.. the rich and powerful only care about themself, the less rich we r the more powerful they are.. you are 2 blind to see the boogeyman because it moves in the shadows until it attacks
Really Joe? You asked why were the police called for a drunk driver passed out in a running car in the drive through of a restaurant? If he had been walking in the sidewalk while intoxicated I would agree with you but not driving.
You are correct sir.
He was IN the drive thru. He didn't get drunk in the drive thru....
The gaslighting on this is getting crazy.
Were also suppose to forget that he just got out of jail for beating his kids. Thats why he didn't want to get arrested. It would have violated his parole.
Problem is the stupid law with DUI. Take his license and that’s it. Drunk driving should be fined and the licence taken away for a year! He shouldn’t end up in cuffs and of course not dead!
He was drunk in the drive thru. Legally blew over the limit after his drunken nap.
Driving drunk is a violent crime in my opinion you're risking the lives of innocent people
Jesus Joe, the last 20 minutes scared the shit out of me. How smart is this guy anyway? It takes an incredible intellect to see such minutiae so outside of a certain, accepted, pathway for discovery.
Yeah it rings very true that something like this could happen. I work in the scientific industry and it’s not what people imagine- labs are doing certain tasks that have been assigned to them , with established tools (ie. mice as model organisms) , they are not checking those tools, that’s not the job... there is no bandwidth. Animals for testing are strictly controlled and there are limited approved suppliers, species, etc.
Money is power. Follow it and you will find the evil that lurks in the shadows. Corruption is the leading cause of all problems we experience, and that is the desire for more wealth, for more power. Deception is the favorite tool to obtain more of it.
The FDA is by far one of the most corrupt. The crappy food we consume, the food pyramid that is way wrong makes us sick. The reaction to this manufactured problem is to find medical help, to find drugs to only mask the problem but not fix it. To mask this problem costs $, to fix it costs way more, but to teach people other ways to prevent and treat illness is to lose money. I mean peanut allergies didn't just pop up out of the blue!!! How much does that EpiPen cost?
My grandmother whose appendix ruptured and caused gangrene should have killed her. No, she was kept alive and put on so many drugs for 7 years. Her quality of life went from 10 to 0 and it tormented her for 7 whole years. The lovely smiling mother and grandmother my family adored had turned into something vile from the medication she was prescribed, something that overshadowed her true loving nature. She was unrecognizable. She had been turned into some sort of cattle drug companys and insurance companys made wealth off of. I completely and disdainfully condemn the FDA and the pharmaceutical industry, and I passionately refuse to seek medical help. I resort to holistic means of preservation and restoration.
@Sunny Times nano virus goes through it like a charm. If you spray water through a mask it goes aaalll to the other side. Joe is pathetic
Coffee Sploosh I am sorry for what you went through. But please be careful. There are many, many “snake oils” touted as holistic cures that do not work and are also just out there to separate consumers from their hard earned money. There is a middle ground.
The answer is - Bret is extraordinarily intelligent, however, it is worth nothing that he is also equipped with the best tools a person could have, and he is a master at wielding those tools. I am talking about the tools of science. Evolutionary Biology in particular is probably the very best proving ground for understanding of many things, including human sociopolitical issues.
State law was part of what happened with Brooks. Not to mention this man had a history of violent offenses, including against children, and was in jail for those felonies previously. A letter to the editor of the LA Times, summed it up well:
“To suggest that the Atlanta police officers should have let Rayshard Brooks sleep it off or called his family to drive him home after he failed a sobriety test in a parking lot is completely ridiculous. You are overlooking the fact that he allegedly drove drunk in the first place, and he could have killed people.
There are about 10,000 people killed by drunk drivers in the United States each year. Race should not play a role in determining the consequences of these actions.”
His prior record doesn't justify shooting him twice in the back when he took off running. The cop in this instance is being charged with felony murder. This case has nothing to do with his DUI infraction either. It's how police are unjustly killing citizens.
@@logike77 His prior record doesn't justify the shooting, it justifies the counter argument to "why not call his family" and "just let him sleep it off, he wasn't hurting anybody". Also, say what you want about the fact he was running away, he tried to use the stolen taser. "It was out of charges" and "it's non-lethal" are not valid counter arguments. It's easy to count charges from camera footage, try counting it in the middle of the road in what amounts to a brawl while there are plenty of things going on. Or here is another option to avoid this all together, don't run from cops. What justified him running? Did he think if he just touched some magical zone the cops would say "ah shucks, he got away again, oh well guess he's free"? It's lunacy to think that he had zero responsibility. To address the other problem, the DA involved can't even decide a taser is lethal force or not so saying "it's non-lethal" is beyond silly. Charging somebody with something doesn't mean they're guilty and only a corrupt judge would find the officers involved anything but innocent.
logike77 dude should have been in prison anyway but you know... covid lmao
logike77 no his record doesn’t justify it. What justifies it was fighting the officers, stealing his weapon and shooting the officer with it
Robert Phillips accountability isn’t a strong suit for men like them. They’re more childlike than adult.
Dude you’re usually on point but the cops absolutely need to be involved for DUIs. 10k people die every year from drunk driving.
he completely ignored any action on the part of mr.brooks, he said drunk driving is "peaceful" and nothing "went wrong" until "they told him he was under arrest" what disingenuous jackass
100% right. Drunks are really good at being nice until it's time to actually go to jail.
You know this reminds me when he had Jack Dorcy on the 1st time and Joe was rightly dragged for it. The 2nd time its Tim Pool asking the hard questions and actually interviewing Jack not Joe. Joe barely says anything in that video. Just shows Joe isn't the "real" person he claims to be.
Not only that .. but nobody .. I mean nobody .. would have said that cops should let a white DUI suspect go home or order him an Uber. We all have to follow the same laws and suffer the same repercussions when we don't. The guy was on probation for child abuse. He had no business driving drunk and he should have been a man about it after being caught. With his selfish behavior he ruined the lives of two cops and caused more violence. I have no sympathy for Raychard.
Joe Rogan himself wasn't saying this, this is the $100 million spotify deal talking.
Your podcast is what has become because you are so open to hear what someone has to say. Your willingness to discuss those topics that no one else is willing to dive into. Love the show.
The autopsy reports show this is not a murder
Bret: *eloquently describing his concerns about social justice*
Joe: I know I could kill a man by kneeling on his neck.
@omnivore gains not at all. Joe is speaking out of emotions which are never the way to go. Especially when it comes to legal action. Bret is looking at the situation objectively and from a logical standpoint. Joe and others who share his opinion just want to lynch someone and they don't care about the details.
omnivore gains I think they both understand it pretty well. Bret just had an unfortunate way of trying to convey his views at first
@@Emmanu013 Joe is smart enough to know if he knows he's killing someone like that the cop knew too.....
"200 pounds into the concrete."
@@normalperson5487 So cop was actually intenting to kill Floyd?
Joe, bring on Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell
Larry elder is a force to be reckoned with. The race baiters need to fear him
@@92MojoJojo You'd be surprised I think. In his most recent interviews (past year(?)), he seems totally on the ball. Unless they were merely old clips that were re-up'd.
Yes get Tomas Sowell on now he's still here! He ís the man of the subject.
The internet can’t handle that...
That will be too racist
Over 10,000 people are killed in the US by drunk drivers every year, Joe.
Being arrested is absolutely the right course of action with these people.
That's why you take their car, put them in a Uber and send them home with a ticket. No need to kill them.
@@Keilnoth Again, the act of drunk driving KILLS PEOPLE. If the cost of driving drunk was an uber ride and a ticket, more people would do it and you know it. The guy resisted arrest, stole a taser, then fired that taser at the officer. THATS what got him killed. Not simply driving drunk. Blaming the law or the officers in this case is absolutely ludicrous.
@@chrstop87 Well if they resist, act violently, steal a taser then you use proportional force to control them. I am fine with that, I am not arguing on that point. If you have a blood alcohol concentration of 0.08%, and it's your first, you don't need to go to jail, you didn't kill anyone, but you need to have a revocation of license and a huge fine that will give you some time to think about it. If you are a recidivist then you are banned forever from the road and might go to jail. That's what we have in most countries in Europe, it's called proportionality and on the side you can have prevention as to educate people.
@@Keilnoth If I shoot a gun into a crowd and miss every shot, should I go to jail? I didn't kill anyone. Would a ticket suffice? Of course not, because the act itself that I could have hurt or killed someone is what matters. I've clearly demonstrated I'm a danger to others and being sent to jail is the proper punishment. Rayshard Brooks BAC was not 0.08%, it was 0.108. Also, this was not his first DUI, and he was on probation, and he had a history of violating his probation. I lived in Europe for 4 years. I can't begin to explain the difference in culture in how we each view driving drunk. Europeans take it much more seriously than Americans do. And I think that's something that can be attributed to culture, not the laws. Americans get caught all the time driving with a suspended license because of multiple DUIs. It's disgraceful, and something I wish we as a country took more seriously.
@@chrstop87 Then we arrest everyone with a car and with a gun. What about the people who drive and text? Because DUI is only 1/3 of all the fatalities. Reckless driving is probably the rest. That's 20k lives, and 33k death by gun shot now that you mention it, are you going to ignore them? Doing so you put 5,000,000 people in jail every year just so that you will feel safer. There is no end to that except by solving root problems, like access to a better and cheaper education, prevention, and a better life overall, reduction of alcoholism in general and stop selling guns while you are at it.
I am so digging this conversation...this needs to be viewed, listened to in a really diverse multitude of different cultural population.This is a winning proposition.
It isn't. The absurdity of a Yang-Generic military man ticket is beyond stating.
@@johnstrawb3521 could you elaborate yang-generic?
"Science is racist."
Is quite literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
And that idea is taking over... in our university system.
Technically its also sexist lol
Vincent M. Science in of itself is not. It has been used as a tool to enact racism in the past and maybe the future. The Tuskegee experiments are an example of such.
@@Coltrenchgun yeah and that head measuring psuedoscience
I don’t know the context yet because I haven’t watched yet but while I do agree with you, you could say hypothetically in a case where if black people are statistically more likely to do a crime that the science would be “racist” against them
When I was in high school, some friends and I were driving back home on a two lane road when the car in front of us disappeared in a cloud of dust. It was hit by an oncoming car and rammed off the road. The driver stumbled out drunk. I ran up to the car and this girl (I believe she was 19 IIRC) had the steering wheel pressed to her chest. They had to use the jaws of life to get her out. Her family told us later that she mad multiple broken bones, including ribs and her legs. All I could do was hold her hand and wait for the police to arrive because we couldn't get her out of the car. I'll never accept the premise that drunk driving is not dangerous. It's against the law, and it's bullshit.
Who has said the drunk driving is not dangerous? I've never heard anybody say that. but it's certainly shouldn't be a death penalty offense.
@@fatherplant73 Joe Rogan said that in this interview.
private parts I think a lot of the people who are arguing on behalf of the driver are somehow missing the fact he drove from the bar to the Wendy’s drive thru, where he passed out. I see a lot of people talking about it as though he was just sitting in the parking lot minding his own business when the police showed up, without realizing, or perhaps without admitting, he was drunk driving prior to the encounter and then was blocking the drive thru, which is why police were called.
@@fatherplant73 this case not included because he wasn't driving: So if you're parents, siblings, kids were killed by a drunk driver WHO MADE A CHOICE TO DRIVE DRUNK, you don't believe they should pay with their life?
This is strictly curiosity.
@@fatherplant73 At the very least Joe downplayed the severity of this guy driving drunk. He referred to him as "just drunk". There is a reason there is a stiff penalty for driving drunk. What I don't see is anyone suggesting that because he was drunk, he deserved to die. Up until this guy began fighting the police and attempted to shoot them with a taser (classified as a deadly weapon in GA), there was no reason to believe he was going to be shot. None of the evidence presented at this point even suggests that he was shot "because he was drunk".
I'd vote for the Dark Horse Duo 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. The two-party system has choked the life out of our republic.
Same!!
I'm with you and I've been promoting alternative/new parties to end the duopoly for at least 10 years...but...and being as completely real and unbiased as I Can, I really see leftist democrats and their MSM collusion allies as the biggest danger we've seen in a long time. I'm not a huge Trump guy but I want him to succeed cuz he's our president and I want our country to do well. But leftists/msm/social media are actively conspiring to take him down and hurt the country. If they would just work to make things better I can't imagine how good things could be cuz things were very good before covid...but these crazies are just out out of their minds...i don't know how else to say it. I've just never seen a group try to hurt the people like they do
That's an interesting take - I'm guessing not a lot of this podcast sunk in?
Washington warned us about allowing political parties to rise in his Farewell Address. He saw this coming centuries ago.
Yep. Both parties have betrayed the people
Imagine trying to defend a drunk driver with just getting him an Uber
It wasn’t just that. He passed out drunk in the drive thru at Wendy’s stopping people behind him from ordering. Also was out on Parole so he KNEW he’d be going back to prison that’s why he ran. Also tazed that one cop and shot at him.
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Brett Speaks so much more clearly to me than his brother Eric. Eric speaks in riddles and metaphors. Love both of em though.
Dude, great call. He's such a riddle-talker. After each piece of riddle-speak, he tends to pause and look at his conversation partner as if to say, "Confused, right? Oh, you... Let me continue now to explain my amazing point." This reads as though I don't like Eric, but I do love him; just one of those idiosyncrasies.
Eric seems to have more sociopathic intellectual tendencies when speaking...almost as if he’s trying to confuse you even. One of his best qualities is thinking outside the box and coming up with unique ideas, which makes for a more entertaining listen but he can often become incoherent and absurd.
Biology is closer to people than math.
It's possible that Eric is on the spectrum lol
Brett is a teacher so i’m sure he has more skill in explaining things in a succinct way
Driving drunk is a crime Joe. You go to jail for that.
You better believe there was no Uber called for me
... and resistin arrest and assaulting a cop ....especially when you are already on parole and should know better
Exactly, but you don't get murdered.
@@NY51663 you do if you fire a taser at cops
@@pablorages1241 Not only that but he was hitting cops.
The difference between “murder” and “homicide” and “manslaughter” is what needed to be discussed here
I tried telling that to my father, and he exploded.
"How is he innocent, it was clearly murder!" - Dad
"Innocent until proven guilty." - Me
Aidan these are the founding principals of this country
And then your dad slapped you
@@aidan5083 I think it should be more like "Not guilty of anything particular until proven guilty of that particular"... Innocent implies something different, though it has become the motto indeed. He is guilty of something, or a bunch of somethings, we just don't know exactly of what.
Sibby Eskie innocence is supposed to be the neutral state for all Americans until found guilty by a jury of their peers in a court of law. You are innocent, all of us, until you are guilty.
1:10:16 The way Joe says “I am an expert in choking people” 😂
Thanks for having Brett on, his reasonable perspective is much appreciated.
Jeremy Shaffer actually he is giving his opinion while still being respectful of joes opinion even if he disagrees. 3 hour long debate while both involved are being civil and respectful and willing to agree to disagree. Seems your comment shows who the douchbag is.
@Jeremy Shaffer I am sorry, but I honestly do not understand your point. How does Judaism have anything to do with this discussion, one way or the other? Cheers.
"You don't end up in critical theory if you have the chops to do science" had me almost spit my coffee.
@@julianfischer1485 I would drop a time but that would give the option to not watch this entire episode. The last 20 minutes are the most essential to what Bret brought to the table.
@@donotletthebeeswin The last 20 minutes is very interesting and gravely important stuff, but so is the rest of it. Beginning, middle and end.
@@julianfischer1485 Somewhere around 40 minutes in. Sorry I didn't tiimestamp it. My bad.
The job training major for lgbt nambla glaad blm and antifa.
Happy to see Bret Weinstein again with Joe Rogan, but god I miss Jordan Peterson! Their trio would make a great podcast about these interesting times.
I hope he'll come back soon!
I just commented on hoping Peterson is gonna come back. I swear that guy was a godsend and many didn't listen to him. For what he actually stood for, improving yourself and resisting authoritarian rule, he got an insane amount of grief in the media.
I believe Jordan just made a blog post titled "Missives of Appalling Idiocy and Envy Embarrassing to Behold". I'd love to see him back too. We have a lot of chaos and not much antidote these days.
I got the feeling Peterson was thinking too much, that will give you anxiety
Still in rehab?
@@invin7215 It was a good read. And by good, I mean it was a very well and logically thought out criticism of the appalling social justice and identity politics-based decisions that are being made right now in the sciences. Thought policing must end. I'm glad Bret threw the gauntlet on the table early - suggesting this very real potential outcome: civil war.
This is a very important moment - we must be unafraid to tell the truth.
Would love your thoughts on this article I wrote a few days ago...
www.whyihatepolitics.com/2020/06/11/i-oppose-corruption/
Funny listening to them talk about George Floyd now that we know he definitely died from a drug overdose. Yet that poor man still sits in prison.
We have a serious problem....a general systemic failure of reason.
I think it's not a failure of reason, because in order for reason to fail it would have to be employed in one way or another.
Majority of people arent inclined to think at all, so reason/logic never even gets a chance todau
Failure of reason and purpose. Especially for young men.
And racism against whites
Honestly, this is all about power and who has it. Not taking this into account gives false judgment. So, not considering this factor causes us to think that this is a lack of reason, but actually it is completely reasonable when considering that it is about power. Kind of like Nancy and her golf tour clap. She had the power and she knew it, we didn't.
"Science is racist." Seems like something I would have said in high school in an attempt to get a laugh.
Or to avoid a test.
It's sad but science is being paid off. Fake science
I haven't heard about shutdown STEM. So if anyone had doubts about BLM's goal knowing that it was started by Marxist this is definite proof. They want to get rid of democracy and create a socialist state. They need to weaken our government and economy to do so and a good way to do that is shutdown STEM. Which country would benefit extensively from US technological destruction? That would be China. There needs to be an investigation of links between China, BLM and Antifa. BLM and Antifa are the useful idiots that will get pushed aside once the government is torn down and the elitist globalist move in with socialist rule. Democrats are fellow travelers enabling this movement.
Gravity is racist
BLM and leftists slowly getting exposed
Joe clearly is not aware of the updates on the Rayshard Brooks situation.
That’s because he consumes MSM propaganda like a good little liberal. Joe is a POS and a sellout
@@RagnarLothbrok2222 He totally is a pos, he' irrational and very biased, even though he tries to hide it
Joe loves the money not the country.
Please enlighten us?
Did you see the video? The officer shot him after he missed with the taser.. the taser only had 1 shot.. he shot him out of anger to punish Mr. Brooks for running.. I am sorry bro that pig should fry...
George Floyd was a career criminal. I feel so bad. He was just about to make the world a better place. rofl.
65% single-parent households. That's a problem .
Arguably, the biggest.
I had this thought the other day... so does that mean that the ERA and women's lib movement is the cause in the downturn in our society?
@@jessicalawrence6967 Correlation doesn't necessarily equal Causation, but it sure does make ya wonder. If by those things, you mean the de-valuing of the family unit and the Nuclear Family generally, then I would agree. A Nuclear family is of the utmost importance, because in fatherless households, the statistics about how much more likely you are to do drugs, join a gang, end up in prison, live off the state, and/or die, is up by multiple 100s of percentages.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 not arguably it's been documented and recorded making it a sad fact hope it gets better
@@djjazzyjeff1232 This correlation has been proven to be causation by numerous sociological studies from the early 70's up to now. Unfortunately, now, most of the social sciences have been hijacked by post modern idiots that don't believe in statistical analysis nor even objective reality.
How is drunk driving not warrant cops showing up
K.I.C. The problem is the guy took the cops taser and fired it at him as he ran away.
falls under the category of substance issues which is a category people are saing needs a different response- I say send a team for substance issues. I say a team of three: one cop with gun, one cop without a gun that is trained in martial arts, and one psychiatrist/medical person. All are good and trained in deescalation. the work together. the guy without the gun is key cause he (sometimes she) can control the situation physically cause they aren't worried about their non existent gun from being taken. medical person will do most of the interaction most of the time probably. other two people are support. dd is serious. i don't know the penalties, but it should probably be viewed as attempted manslaughter in a sense.
Punch a cop get shot. Cops job isn’t to take blows to the head in the hopes they stay conscious and the attacker doesn’t take their gun.
What is this 4th grade?
God people are stupid
@@rockydelforge999 Thats a great idea! We all need to make 10% more with overtime or another job though. Treating situations like this in that way is only going to cost us 110% in taxes. Maybe just put all 3 on each street corner and free healthcare and free college and expand welfare and, and, and.......
@@genzcurmudgeon8037 whats the purpose of 2nd amendment? Specifically was to fight a tyrannical government so we would always be free🤯
Somebody introduce Joe to MADD. That group is why drunk driving laws always end in arrests, and not calling an taxi.
Drunk driving makes you kill people, thousands of avoidable deaths all around the world every year result from that. In most European countries you'll get banned from driving if ever caught drunk, and for good reason, but at least it's scientific - we use alcohol meters, not some silly 'walk the line' methods.
@@doommaker47 We also use breathalyzer tests here in the states, blood test too to further prove your level of intoxication if it's just obscenely high. They usually start with the whole Walk the Line, touch your nose, say your ABC's backwards and the eye stigma test to give them further proof of your physical incapacitation.
If they refuse to do the breathalyzer test in field, and they failed all the physical tests, the officer can transport them back the station and get a blood draw done.
@Jen farmer the Google statistics guru. Tell that to a family who lost somebody to a drunk driver
Jen farmer there is a consensus on what constitutes a drunk driver, a .08 BAC.
@@doommaker47 There are BAC breath tests that are administered after the line test.
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Joe is going WAY too easy on Rayshard. He fought those cops because he was pass-out drunk-driving and on parole and would've been sent back to the can. Joe acting like this "good guy" should be treated like real murder victims like Floyd and others (idk if he mentions them later in the episode, but I'd be happy to list off a few!) is a disgrace to real victims of police brutality. Turns out, you can't assault two cops, punch them both, give one a concussion, steal their taser, tase one, then try to tase the other without being shot. He wasn't "unarmed," like the media keeps claiming. He's not the victim there.
I know it seems like a weird hill for me to die on, but I've been pissed about legitimate police brutality for almost a decade now, ever since Kelly Thomas, and the media being dishonest in an attempt to make this a race war thing and divide us is nauseating. They won't talk about a Tony Timpa, Kelly Thomas, or Daniel Shaver (Shaver got a little bit of coverage, but no outrage), and they'll ALWAYS title an article "black man shot by police!!" and then at the bottom mention he murdered his wife and then started shooting at the cops BEFORE they killed him. That distracts from real victims like Tamir Rice or Robert Crawford III or Philando Castille. I'm just so goddamned tired of it. They lie all the time, and it's tearing us apart when we have to come together as brothers and sisters and help this country grow. We SERIOUSLY need the media to step up and be honest and use REAL statistics and honest studies, like Roland Fryer study from 2016, so we can start our discussions on reform based on FACTS and not "lived experiences" and feelings.
Idk, what do you think?
Mean Bean Productions … agreed! But please, don’t hold your breath waiting for the media to step up.
You right.
Death to all!
RustyKnight1217 you better be a bot
@RustyKnight1217 "Complicit" from poor training? Oof. Not a good take, jefe.
I agree with you.
Joe failing to understand what due process and trials are is alarming.
I say this as a fan
@RandomPower I know, it’s such a turn off
agreed! No matter how clear a situation looks you still deserve a trial
@Carmona Giraldo My mom would make pancakes in the morning
@@elijahrusso5403 Thats just as relevant as what Carmona said. Too bad Aunt Jemima syrup will no longer be available for those pancakes.
Carmona Giraldo and he’s going to trial because that’s how America works .
Bret : I m expert in evolutionary biology .
Joe : I m expert in choking people.
Dude .. it’s a joke .
@@vishalkhomane7380 you didn't get the memo? Humor is violence 😂
@A N Brett has more to say on the subject but chose not to press joe on it. Joes expertise doesn’t matter if the guy in question isn’t an expert either
@@elontusk610 joes expertice on choking fuckers is completely irrelevant anyhow. Floyd died; knowing that choking someone in a certain way can kill them is useless information at this point. You aren't a murderer because something you do leads to someones death, you are a murderer because you knew it would, and you did it anyhow.
Determing if the man is a murder is a matter of determining his intentions, not his actions. His actions are obvious. His intentions are not.
Bret created this monster with his leftist views. He just didn’t like it when the monster turned on him. Like Stalin said Bret is a “Useful Idiot” he was an Allie until he was more useful to be shamed as a tool of the left. Hopefully he has taken an honest look at his views.
If being poor determines if you will be a criminal then WHY ISN’T THIS HAPPENING IN APPALACHIA???
They can not afford a gun. They are supper f ing poor
Talking about America. And in America poor white folks get tossed in jail and so do pour blacks at a disproportionate number to rich folks. Is that hard to see?
Ok, Joe, you have to talk to Thomas Sowell. These are basically the arguments he has been making since the 80s.
Sowell would be the most legendary podcast during this time
I Agree!
So true, this podcast already had me reading his page again
@@michaeld8555. Maybe that's what op ment. Either way, i definitely agree with you, but i can't say I've listened to him enough to be able to argue one way or the other.
@@michaeld8555 I listened to Sowell for an hour the other day, arguing something not much different from that. That the minimum wage removed jobs from these communities and the welfare state caused fatherless homes. This leaves young black men with no fathers and no jobs, then they get up to no good.
DA just admitted two weeks ago a taser IS a deadly weapon and now the SAME DA is saying a taser is not. Case closed! Lol
Yup
I don't know the story but I'd not be amazed that people are afraid to make a stance against the mob at this point.
If you think tasers are a deadly weapon, why do police deploy it in non violent crimes?
If a white man went full psycho on two nice police pfficers and took them to the ground, punched one in the face, stole his weapon, and fired it at him.... noone would bat an eye. Seems privileged to me.
Also the cop that didnt even shoot rayshard is getting charged with aggravated assault? The cops were gentle with rayshard. Thats why rayshard was able to hurt them and steal there weapon and get away. They didnt assault him at all, in fact if they wanted to they couldve beat tf out of him. A 2v1 is not winnable in a situation like that.
@@illicitlegacy3783 He kicked the dude on the ground after he was shot. You can see it in the video.
This has 1.5 million views and is a day old.
Looks like some people do still like a long form deep conversation
And that's just on RUclips, not including other mediums
You must be new.. WELCOME!
I thought I was all alone for the first 1500 episodes
yes, AND it looks like some people don't mind calling this mess what it is... the deep entrenchment of identity politics in our political, media, business, and scientific institutions - and that those misguided ideologues are calling for civil war.
Make no mistake about it, that's what this is leading to. We must be ardent in our commitment to free speech. We must oppose corruption, and be critical of our favorite institutions where they have failed, as well - such that this is a non-partisan movement toward empirical truth, and NOT just a regression back into politics.
Here's something I wrote a week ago - why free speech is so integral to our very humanity.
www.whyihatepolitics.com/2020/06/11/i-oppose-corruption/
Pretty much every podcast gets 1.5-2m on first day, its not unheard of
"Echos of slavery" bro? I grew up in predominantly black nieghborhoods, in Baltimore Md, I literally went through the same life as the black Americans around me. Same poverty that effected them effected me, and still does today. I have a job I got when I was 19 and discipline myself to stay there surviving paycheck to paycheck. Still struggle, still paycheck to paycheck. Slavery? Reperations? Come on Joe!
Thomas Sowell needs to be on this show!!
That would be wild. Joe wouldn't know how to deal.
No. On economics, Sowell is a total idiot.
Rico King
I think Joe's head would actually explode
@@youmothershouldknow4905 uhhh?
You know what helps, having a father in your life.
Based
Gotta save him from the whale
Welfare will not assist families where the father is present.
Definitely. Brett says science will help families out the most. But I disagree, having a loving father and loving mother help infinitely more. We need less broken families which lead to anger, hate, violence and despair. People who are loved, feel that love and give love are not violent and hateful.
1:24:00
"Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule."
Friedrich Nietzsche
@57:12
@Hai Voai ahhhhhhhahahaha. toche'
It only seems like insanity when it's not your group
@@dionysusnow I’ve seen insanity by both sides last year. A liberal that drives around in his car alone with a mask on. A conservative who thinks Corona virus is myth.
Over 90% of psychological research is not about addressing the human condition but rather towards effective mind control. The object is usually to control consumer decision making.
I graduated Evergreen the year before the uprising: speaking at our graduation was an unknown black female guest who insisted strongly that she was going to help ‘take back the school’ and we were sitting in the rain, like ‘lady we just want to get through this’
@Michael Cera Spoken like a frustrated drop-out
@Michael Cera There are other "professional" careers than just medicine which do require you to have certifications. Lawyer, accountant (CPA), etc.
@Michael Cera I hear yah. Though to be fair, even medicine will be taken over by AI. Honestly, I would trust a computer that has access to medical databases and journals, and has seen millions of diagnostic images, over a human to diagnose me.
@Michael Cera explain how I can get a job as a Professional Engineer without an Engineering degree?
There's nothing more empowering then wet alumni
Full summary:
0:01 The Evergreen incident and Bret predicting social unrest
3:02 Bret talks about occupy movements and "Occupy 2.0"
3:48 Defunding the police
6:08 Joe´s thoughts on the Rayshard Brooks incident
7:53 Bret has been hit/beaten twice by cops
8:43 About Jocko´s recent appearance on the podcast (and his views on training cops)
12:00 Bret talks about the Clinton administration, Republicans, and the political (and social) US system (long discussion)
27:49 Bret explains "critical theory" and what it has morphed into
32:14 On academia being liberal
41:27 Talking about one of Bret´s best students, and her experience with being bullied by other students
54:50 Bret´s thoughts about Dave Chapelle
1:00:02 Bret on the George Floyd murder
1:10:15 Joe "I´m an expert on choking people" Rogan
1:14:10 Talking about the Eric Garner case
1:19:22 Bret on the black community in the US and arresting/taking men out of society
1:35:54 Bret´s plan to fix the political situation in the US
1:44:22 Discussing Joe Biden
1:50:03 On Trump (Bret: "He is a political genious")
2:06:46 Looking at videos that make fun of Trump (including "baby Trump")
2:10:22 Discussing covid-19 and conspiracy theories (Bret won´t dismiss the lab-conspiracy theory)
2:19:03 Bret´s thoughts on covid-19 and testing
2:20:30 On the efficacy of masks agains covid-19
2:22:00 Joe on hunting and axis deer
2:26:01 Discussion about covid-19 continues, including bats and China
2:40:03 On aging (and different research groups competing against each other)
2:58:30 Bret clears up a comment that Eric (his brother) made about him on the JRE podcast.
(Note: I do summaries for all the JRE episodes. If you subscribe, you´re more likely to see my summaries in the comment section^^)
2:40:03 is not the competition but about corrupted studies on drugs and the fact that they prefer to ignore the impacts.
tnx...kind regards
Keep Doin what u do!
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"(Bret won´t dismiss the lab-conspiracy theory)" he didnt say it was a conspiracy... he said it might be an accident
I live in Korea. When I got here 17 years ago, there were few foreign cars in my city. You'd see them in other cities where there was a higher concentration of wealth, but not here. Now they're all over. Why are Koreans doing so well a single generation after their country was nearly annihilated?
Education. I hear these two talking about systemic racism, vestigial racism, whatever. Education can change everything in a single generation.
Who's blocking this? Why don't we start there?
There's people who want to get educated and be better off, then there's people who want to play victim and be spoon fed to be better off. Guess who's who.
@@LegoPa .
Fair enough, Larry, but judging from "There's people," I'll take your take with a grain of 소금.
To my way of thinking, the Left has hemmed blacks in with victimhood and zero education options, all while pandering to them and taking the moral high ground.
Blacks from the West Indies excel the general population, as do Nigerian immigrants. It's NOT their race; it's their culture.
A lot of so called SJWs are college educated, and the ones screaming of cancel culture are (I believe) of university educated middle class demographics. Education is indeed important, but the question is what education? The notoriety of our current cultural climate would still be inevitable if ideology-biased courses are being taught, i.e. creating false education.
Very good point. America lost its pay policing the rest of the world instead of paying attention to itself.
@@daegueric exactly 💯.
The best interview so far! I don’t agree with every political perspective but very interesting, informative, and intelligent.
This is the conversation I've been itching for Bret to have with Joe after listening to Bret's podcast thru the shutdown. Especially about the Dark Horse Duo! So glad the lab leak discussion is getting a wider audience now, too.
The Dark Horse Poddy is the only thing keeping me sane.
YES - I feel like I was commenting on both their twitters often, trying to make sure they did this. Not claiming any credit - just incredibly happy.
You might like an article I wrote about the necessity of free speech in this time of emergent thought policing...
Bret and Heather are amazing (and check out Coleman Hughes, Glenn Loury, and John McWhorter)!
www.whyihatepolitics.com/2020/06/11/i-oppose-corruption/
Right? Things don’t usually just happen without some sort of explanation and or details
This started off great and I think Brett was really zoned in and making great meaningful points and it really could have been the right talk at the right time....then Joe's TDS kicked in and it went off the rails and what could have been historic ended up talking about Trump memes and baby clips
He talks about all the dangers that the republic is facing and decries protesters as being “maoists”, yet at the same time proposes a drafting system that undermines American democracy entirely.
Then he started talking about hypotheticals (which have been debunked by U.S. scientists) about Covid-19, not understanding a god damn thing about virology. The way he talks about outdoor transmittal and viral evolution is so incredibly amateur and wrong. We know what coronavirus is weak towards because it’s based entirely on its structure. We have known that sunlight (a specific EMS of it) and soap destroy it.
For an “intellectual”, Bret sure likes to peddle in idiocy and conspiracy theories. Christ.
Joe “never had the tragedy of a drunk drivers actions touch my life” Rogan.
Yea wtf come on joe
It’s called cite and release car gets impounded and someone picks up the driver they go to court at a later date not that crazy we already do it
@@Bradly1983 if the dude fights two cops successfully and gets a taser from them do you really think he's going to go to court for another charge on top of violating parole?
Matt "never used a 's to denote possession in his life" Tedeschi.
But yeah that was kinda whack on Joe's part. Wtf.
@@tdot2413 yeah when he sobers up
I like Bret but he takes out of the equation personal responsibility. I grew up in a poor area a 1 bedroom apartment with 7 people. My public school was poorly funded. My parents were to self involved with each other and their own cycle that I didn’t get the same kind of up bringing as a typical family. To top it off I am disabled . And until I was 23 I was basically doing nothing with my life held on to how unfair the system was held on to the anger. Until one day I looked around and realized I was a mouse on a wheel and so were my family and the reason they couldn’t see it was because they still held on to their own pain too. The minute I realized that is when my life changed . I moved 1000 miles across the country got into school and bought a house 2 years later all while still in school full time working and only making 18k a year. Was it hard? Yes . Did I have to slave away and not spend any money on anything and barely eat to accomplish my goals? Yes. But was it impossible? No. My point is that the current corruption in the system only works if people THINK they can’t get ahead because that’s ultimately the only thing stopping them and if they ever realized that the elites would no longer be able to use that anger as a form of control because there is more of us then there are of them. I’m not saying it’s easy to get out of that life or leave your family but in the end it comes down to how bad you want it and how badly you don’t want to end up like everyone around you and the first step is self reflection and personal responsibility. Like Morgan free man once l said there are busses leaving every single day
I agree with you 100% about personal responsibility, except the people who need to take responsibility don't see that.
I've spent years volunteering with youth in my community. I can to you that for most of them, life is just something that happens to them. They don't understand the extent that they have control over it. There are systematic changes that still need to occur within some communities so that it's not just one or two people breaking out, but many people breaking out.
It's obvious that many people are capable of breaking the cycle, the question is why don't they and can we change that?
Congrats on breaking the cycle and u are on point my man.
You’re a beast
Congrats, Dan D!
That's a great story. Thanks for sharing that. I hope that you consider mentoring young people at some point in your life. I think that with your background, they'd really listen to you.
I live in Atlanta, that dude is one of the people in this town that drives around recklessly while shit hammered on Saturday night..... every weekend, especially since covid one of those scumbags wrecks into someone on I-85 and kills someone or swerves across 5 lanes at 110 mph and causes a wreck 10 miles long. Im over the stupid shit! Its gotten bad here and im tired of people making excuses for it! We need more police and stricter rules like El Salvador. If i grabbed a cops taser and tried to run off shooting him and was shot by the cops for it, my family would be embarrassed of me and wouldnt have cried like babies. I would have been a scar on my familys name.
“I’m an expert on choking people” is Tinder bio worthy.
I've definitely seen and gotten matches with women that would swipe right for that. lol
Lmao that would make you more popular than some would think.
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@@TylerInTraining I would. And spanking too.
you can only promote bullshit? this is present, it will change your life.
It's a shame some people gonna watch this and call Bret a racist.
He has the same problem as other people who are really smart..... He thinks every thought that comes to his mind is correct and argues it every time.
@@slippythefrog Lol I love how people like this literally hear the exact opposite of what a person is saying.
Bret: "We need to not make assumptions and use the scientific process to find Truth."
RUclips idiots: OMG HE JUST ASSUMES HE'S CORRECT AND SO SMART
Because apparently facts and evidence are racist and bigoted
Doesn't matter what his name is, if he's White the Black supremacists are going to call him racist.
What does pointing this out before it happens accomplish? I ask because I see this again and again.
I’m reading the comments and all I see are comments on the drunk guy in Atlanta when the BIGGEST issue on this podcast was the issue of the scientists not being able to tackle a huge statistical flaw in their research.
thank you sir
probably some conservative made a video and their army of trolls came to comment section after watching it.
pretty common
Agreed - though you’re granting people credit for a long attention span.
Totally agree, I came down to the comment seccion to see what ppl think about that subject...and almost no one is interested about that extremely important matter...
people are interested in what they can relate to
Discovering Bret Weinsten and the Darkhorse podcast was one of the few things that delivered common sense and hope to me during the worst of the pandemic lock downs.
Same🔥❤️
This has to be one of the best Joe Rogan's 3 hours ever. So much covered!
Welcome aboard
Most of the comments relate to the first 30-40 minutes. Watch the whole thing, last hour is probably the best
absolutely
They did assume that people only have the attention span for a sitcom. Lol
Also watch Bret's channel.
It always amuses me how nearly 4 million people watch this in a few days, but he gets less than 100k people on his own videos.
Same with a lot of other guests on Joe's show.
For some reason, people are happy to watch them talking to Joe, but have no interest in them talking on their own podcasts to other intelligent people.
@@thealexanderbond To many people to follow, the amount of knowledge that can be consumed and discussed is endless - that's why Joe is a good podcast, he brings people that have real knowledge in their own field.
This fool lost me after he kept saying that watching the George Floyd video wasnt conclusively murder. Like Bret...lay off the acid.
Joe: I believe the courts should decide!
Joe: Based on that, I say he's guilty!
Joe, I don't think you actually understand what Bret was very timidly getting at. The point is, your opinion is irrelevant, the Justice system and the Jury need to make that determination.
Yes, a cornerstone of the American ethos. Innocent until proven guilty...Joe really was naive on this. Almost seemed like an act. Pandering for Spotify?
I was shouting at the screen for joe to stop interupting him! Sometimes joe misses the point in a big way
I think Joe’s point is that like... for the sake of podcasting and having a coherent conversation he gave his opinion but ultimately believes any service of justice should come from a court.
Joe "I am trying to make a fair trial for Derek Chauvin impossible" Rogan
Yeh cause judge and jury did so well with Rodney King. See that video????? Where was the trial held???? Watched LA burn in 92. Weinstein is in lala land.
Joe " Not a bad guy" Rogan is cool with drunk driving until his family gets pancaked by a guy the police didnt pull over.
I like joe but joe is talking about checkers and Bret is talking about chess.
This is the most apt description of the podcast, which I still enjoyed.
I think most of us are playing checkers that's why Joe is a good representation of the average folk which is good because Brett have to be very persuasive and repeat himself 5 times to make his point trough.
AGREED!
@@Fabi_87 because he's talking to someone playing checkers. this is bret's babyspeak.
Not really a lot of times joe gets too emotional and acts willfully ignorant.
“If we are going to start sacrificing people because there is a mob of people threatening to turn the place upside down then you know what that is, right?... then we aren’t America anymore” damn, this gave me goosebumps.
@@brontsmoth671 you wrote a novel bro.
@@brontsmoth671 some of the only things really stolen or damaged by the tea party was the tea thrown in the harbor. They broke a crewmembers padlock on thr ship and they replaced it lol.
I've seen documented that they looted a mansion owned by a loyalist. They went out of their way to not harm private property..alot. They always targeted specifically loyalists etc. Not random businesses or citizens.
Lmfao who you think mobbed against the British? You yellow belly bootlickers are getting in the way of real men
Bret seemed surprised that scientists resisted his discovery about the telomeres, apparently to save their own reputations, prestige, or funding. This and and what that quote described happens in every society that has ever existed. Now, thanks to the Web, we're just finding out about it more. Same for the reliability of the media.
It's been remarked that our current situation is like the invention of the printing press. That wound up letting ideas spread farther and faster, including Luther's. Ditto translations of the Bible into the vernacular (before that, only people who knew Latin could read it). And that resulted in the Hundred Years' War. Look it up some time.
Civilization is more fragile than you think. Fasten your seat belts, kiddies. It's going to be a bumpy ride.
So stupid dude. They tried kneeling and the entire right wing media and government tried to ruin careers and reputations and killed even more unarmed people the last few years.
They are doing what is right. 2 guys hunted down a jogger to murder and got away with it until the video. All these other cases, without protesters these cops ar getting off the hook with crazy ideas like police immunity.
Here's the reality backed up by our own congressional reports on much of the police force.
They are racists who got a job with immunity a badge and a gun and kill way too often. That's just a fact, over the last couple of decades white supremacist groups have internally communicated to each other a strategy to get into law enforcement.
This is not my made up theory like Bret does. These are actual western scientifically produced research documents chartered and present to the United states Congress that right now the Republican party is fighting to keep secret via heavy redactions but people who've read it and the unredacted versions tell us this is the reality. The Republicans are just trying trying to keep the gory details more secret because they know that their base would revolt if the report was released and public pressure forced the government to purge the racists and replace them with a different kind of officer...
If the cops really worried about their safety they'd be 1st in line for massive gun control but they aren't because many are right wing racists living a job that gives them a chance to do their thing and hunt humans for any minor violation of the law in black communities.
Every time Bret's about to say something of actual significance, Joe interrupts the shit out of him and completely breaks the thread of thought.
Joe does that way too much.
welcome to the podcast dude
Because joe's a dummy. Imagine how good these interviews would be if Joe actually tried to learn how to be a good interviewer.
But hes so far up his own butt he probably thinks hes a flawless interviewer.
Maybe it's deliberate.
Bret's professional lying is interrupted?
Fascinating to listen to Bret recently on Carlson versus three years ago. On this video, he is in the initial steps of being red-pilled. On Tucker, he is dramatically further along in the process. I am sure that the last few years outside of the university environment have been critical in his journey.
Watching this in June 2020. Before the civil war began.
Same
Same, and I call BS - not gonna happen
I certainly hope you're wrong.
I hope the anarchists don't start Civil War v2.0.
Hopefully the left will cancel it.
I wish Thomas Sowell had been invited to this conversation
That’s all I was thinking the whole time.
Or at least someone with a better grasp on history and political economy. They are drawing very broad conclusions not based in historical context nor statistical fact.
I wish he did more interviews but I suspect fifty years of warning people about this totalitarian ideology has worn him out.
This guest is perfect for the times we are in and the first 20 min. uou should digest and quit overlooking everything there saying cause you disagree w one or two things. People are so strange and emotional these days.
I've commented over and over again recently on JRE but at this time - the closest public figures you can still get might be Glenn Loury, John McWhorter or Coleman Hughes. I figure John fits Joe's audience best for this affair but I could be wrong...
"The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie"
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Based.
YAHHHHH
Well said. Joe doesn’t get it because hes a ‘woke’ Californian. Im 7 hours through this audio book right now this current situation echoes the communist revolutions of China and Russia.
@@jh772 it isn't if you reject the lie early
@@jh772 What book is that?:)
Bret lookin' like he's about to rob a train.
Red Bret Redemption
YangGang or Die!!!💯💯💯 #WriteInYang #StillVoting4Yang
I don’t believe I have much to add to this conversation right now but I want you all to know that I love you all! And I hope to live in a better world with you in the future
@DOGB14 you as well. those ideals are what we need. you’re a great person
Lol! I think it's a CV-19 thing. He's from the PNW where the pressure to wear masks is high -- technical compliance.
Why the downvotes for Bret?
EDIT: I now see that the downvotes are for Joe who didn't know what was going on with Rashad.
Ugh no I down voted for Brett
@@Mike-mc3sh
Why?
@@bighands69 Because they don't like to think and have been indoctrinated to hate those who speak with reason but it goes against their hard left beliefs. Beliefs which have benign ''titles'' but have insidious and extremely vague/ignorant underlying motives.
Joe does anything he can to talk shit about anarchists. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Pathetic.
It's ok fam, we got you. Rogan just going uber Liberal right now and Bret Weinsteinn was the man we needed.
Up next? Jordan Peterson please.
Joe "Drunk Driving isn't that bad" Rogan.
The point was not that he did not do anything wrong.
The point was that you can sovle the situation without escalating things.
Back in the day. When busted? Cops wouldn't let ya continue. And find a way to get chya home. . And with tech today. It would be wayyy easie to assure a driver home once caught. Madd Lobbied that one misjudgment "though can be catastrophic to other sharing the road." Is possible to ruin ones life. That's why guys run and fight. And ultimately. Could die. Saving lives on the road. Turned into ruining others targeted?
You guys are lame o's
@@lasselyng6420 Did you not see the video of Brook's arrest? Everything was civil and fine until he realized he was going back to prison. A man on parole, caught behind the wheel of a vehicle while drunk. Brooks escalated everything and got himself killed.
It's not that it's "not bad" it's more like why do you need guns in that situation.
This is just as relevant today as it was 3 years ago. If only every person that watched this earlier would watch it again.
Thank you both! I feel like I am loosing my mind these days, everything has become so contrived.
Simply give over, give in, join which you embrace
Why does everyone spell loosing this way? Is it a public school French Canadian? Losing, no?
"You don't end up in critical theory if you have the chops to do science..." damn just saying what the room is thinking Bret.
I loved that comment and it is very accurate.
I recommend his channel and his podcast. Every Saturday at 3 or 3:30, depending, w/ a Q&A right after.
@@MeanBeanComedy Bret is an excellent wordsmith and I love his podcasts!
@@liamhinrichs4881 Agreed! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🤙🏻✊🏻👍🏻
i agree
Joe missed Brets whole point about how the George Floyd case needs to go to a court and kept arguing with him while agreeing with him 🤦🏻
That’s cause joe rogan is a bit stupid , this happens a lot on his podcasts he is not an intellectual and struggles to understand points like this regularly.
Exactly! I understand his point and he is making a valid one and it's just like the me too movement which is fucking scary because it's basically making u guilty and u gotta prove innocence! That's a slippery slope when ur trying to convict someone or cancel someone without due process or there side of the story!! The left scare the fuck outta me because this is the type of shit they want! And guess what when they get it and it comes knocking on there door they will turn into Republicans real quick fuckin hypocrites
Maybe because Joe doesn't want the blowback, he just signed a multimillion dollar deal. So he has to keep it at a level playing field
Xtreme Creations Pool & Spa I agree
Jo G If people like us can see that imagine what his much smarter guests feel like. They’re being very polite to Joe lmao
Looking back and Joe was so misinformed on the incidents of the BLM Riots
It's all fun and games till a drunk driver kills a family member in an auto accident.
Exactly what I thought.
I mean if you listen Joe is suggesting just not being arrested. Obviously you don't let him keep driving and the ticket should be a big one. What this does is take out the possibility of injury or death to a cop or civilian
I hope everyone who says “let him walk home” has the opportunity to have a loved one mercilessly and brutally killed by a drunk driver and see what their opinion is then.
My brother almost died in a wreck because of a drunk driver. I bet if it was his family he wouldn't have said that.
@@rhugginsj25 This guy was out on parole, he was in jail for beating his child. He is a felony child abuser. Driving drunk was a violation of his parole and he was going back to jail. You think he would have complied with some social worker when the result was him still going back to jail for violation of his parole? Both you and Joe are living in some fantasy world. He was willing to do anything to avoid going back behind bars. By the way I lost an uncle to a drunk driver. All drunk drivers can burn in hell.
"The purpose of a system is what it does. Don't listen to what someone says a system is for, look at what the system accomplishes, that's what it's for."
The same can be said for groups like BLM or Antifa. Their actions define what they are about. What they say they are about is their attempt at manipulation.
@@Mistersamweller And, like any organization, the goals will be unachievable or constantly evolving to keep the organization in power long after it's served its purpose. Look at MADD - founded to implement nationwide drunk driving regulations. Now that that's done, they just keep on lobbying for lower and lower BAC limits.
If only we had clear vision, and were capable of grasping everything that a system does. It is unfortunate that we do not. And as a result, people disagree about what a system does.
@@Mistersamweller true but we cannot fail to recognize leftist groups without bringing up white supremacist and KKK groups as well
Shadilay yup, look up where those donations are going. The left. Wouldn’t put it past them to want chaos in the country to get back in office.
Bret: Discusses potential of covid-19 being lab engineered
Joe: Hey check out this baby with trumps face on it
TDS finally got his ass, both of these dudes when they talk about Trump always leave out the fact hes been under constant attack for 4 years.
Did you notice how Weinstein had nothing to say about it at all and was just like "Anyway...."
@@adefay4385 the stuff joe finds really funny is in reality lame as fuck. Or how he was always pushing that one comedians video on everyone like a year ago that did the faceswap with kim kardashian or somethin and it wasnt funny at all. I mean, not bad, but still lame. Joe's like the friend that still asks you if you saw the new Southpark the other night
@@ericlofstrand for real though, did you see that episode of south park?... Jamie look it up
Ya Joe talks like he sees things deeply and acts all enlightened but dude really is repeating all mainstream narratives in this. Most of his Trump criticisms aren't accurate at all. I usually like hearing his thoughts but here he's sounding a lot like another talking head
Visiting this in hindsight, joe was absolutely wrong about gf. DC WAS sacrificed. The other guy that was in GF's car was his killer. Gave him the fentynal. Knee wasn't even on neck it was on back.
Joe! He was drunk driving, how the hell else would he get to the Wendy's drive through. Hell YES we arrest drunk drivers.
No. We get them an uber tax payers pay for. Then we pay for the drunk drivers funeral and his victims next time he gets out under influence.
James Morrison I agree you don’t need to be an officer if you can’t arrest someone without resorting to lethal means.. but are you aware that the man being arrested gave one cop a concussion and stole his taser then tried to flee and whilst fleeing turned and aimed the taser towards the officers to fire it at them, thus resulting in one of them to open fire.
If you believe you are being wrongly arrested then you fight it in court, as evidence shows that when you fight back against it WHILE you are being arrested you just made everyone’s day more complicated, mainly your own. Plus as it was previously stated, he drove there drunk. He didn’t get there and then smash a bunch of liquor in the drive through then pass out. So yeah, he was gonna be arrested no matter how you cut it.
Sure arrest drunk drivers. PLEASE arrest them. Please do it without losing control of the weapons YOU bring to the situation. Please do it without killing a man.
Back before diu made city $10,000 basically police officers would follow you home or take you home. Dui is big business!!! Js
Mayan Ruins then don’t drink and drive then beat people up when you have to answer to those crimes
"You don't end up in Critical Theory if you have the chops to do science."
hahahaha burn
Yep - Critical Theory is a target-rich environment for indoctrination candidates who can't think for themselves.
Enlighten us plebeians, Jake.
Why is Bret spending his valuable time on social science?
@@pauljoda6593 ... because he doesn't have the chops for STEM
Weinstein says that ... but doesn't back it up with most of his views
pablo rages that’s correct.
Bret is gives no science.
Just his social ideas, based on his fear of losing control
"Just get them an uber" being arrested for DUI is a deterrent. If you make getting a DUI no big thing, people will more likely risk getting them.
To joe's point, the deterrent would be having to go to court and deal with the ticket. In practice, I don't think the ticket would amount to a small debt. It would most likely be a huge fine. i.e the deterrent.
@@forgetit-qh7kk convince Mothers Against Drunk Drivers of that.
not only that, but the cops asked him to go park elsewhere (he was blocking traffic) SEVERAL TIMES and he didn't move...
Exactly
@SPQR - yeah we arrest them, you're not supposed to shoot them in the back while running away. Running away? Let them! Call back up, check your mate that is on the ground, get in your car and follow the guy (who was on foot).
There was LITERALLY dozens of ways to deal with this guy rather than shooting him.
I really enjoy watching Joe Rogans podcast, it's become one of my favorite things to watch on RUclips to be honest! Thanks for uploading
Isn’t it crazy that if Brooks woke up , still drunk , and caused an accident that killed someone you wouldn’t know his name . Instead , he’s now another martyr.
I don’t understand Joe’s premise of “ just call him an Uber .” It only enables someone to drink and drive which of course , has tragic consequences .
I've been saying this. Imagine if he passed out at a busy intersection instead of a Wendy's drive-thru. Not only would no one know his name, his victims would most likely just be another set of DUI statistics.
I almost lost my shit when Joe was like he didn't do anything serious he was just sleeping in his car. He was driving drunk b4 he fell asleep. Just because he didn't kill anyone THIS time and fell asleep doesn't matter he was driving while intoxicated. People go to jail for that every day. He would have went to drunk tank for few hrs and been out. Instead he fought an officer and here we are....
The problem is he didn’t kill anyone and he was killed for no reason... Martyrdom well earned
Everyone should stop listening to his podcast. They're other people who believe drunk driving is a crime.
@@hookahsocial3550 'killed for no reason'...way to broadcast your inability to process incoming information there bro.
7:29 he’s actually been in prison for child abuse and the reason why he resisted is COs he was on parole. You’re 100% wrong on this
Not 100% wrong .
You don’t know history ... if you did know history , I wouldn’t have to message to remind you of your historical ignorance .
But it’s too late for people like you anyway , so I’m wasting my time with reaching out to you ✌️
"Talking reasonably and super civil" yet he grabs their taser... nice brush over from joe. They shouldn't have shot him but fmd, you can't sit there acting like the guy was nice as pie
@@garyvlahos635 what a brain damaged comment.
@@garyvlahos635 wtf are you trying to say with this comment?
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Seriously...its like if someone is being super civil you should let them go before they get violent.
Haha
Joe Rogan needs to get Thomas Sowell on the podcast to explain economics and disparities.
MR Sowell dislikes travelling. Maybe Skype? Sowell is Rogan-worthy
His ideas were proven wrong years ago though it sounds correct when he says it
ferndog1461 but is Rogan Sowell worthy?
Joe needs a co-host who is intelligent. There are many options.
Venice Beach Sports Network please continue.
It’s amazing to look back at how wrong Joe was about Saint George Floyd, and how rational Bret was.
It’s ridiculous how many people have something to say in opposition of DUE PROCESS!!!
What about Georges right to Due PROCESS? Chavez took it upon himself to be judge jury and executioner. Where was George due process?
The conversation with Jocko was a lot more solution oriented and addressed one of the most important issues in high tension moments, the current inability of many officers to deescalate the situation.
@@adventureswithripnlips9165 That is why he was charged with murder, Einstein.
So, I guess Joe is the judge, jury and executioner? Joe 'string him up' Rogan?
I guess Joe has spoken with the coroner personally? Interviewed doctors? Investigated actual prior conversations between the two? Bret's point: Due Process will lead to an unknown. Just ask O.J.
Plur307 oh he’s been sentenced? I hadn’t heard about the court case yet...