To the contributor who stated that they didn't think this was Pavarotti but someone else, you can't have much of an ear, I'm afraid. This is 100% Pavarotti. Simply stupendous top Cs. It must be terrifying to sing this live - there is so much that could go wrong.
Magnificent... and insane, the orchestra is pretty loud and it is played quite fast and Pavarotti hits the difficult notes in original key perfectly... pure excitement!!
This is precisely why he remains peerless, as he was in his lifetime. There are many fine tenors, but no one has come close to surpassing him. His is the kind of voice that comes along once in a century, maybe two.
@@toivonencresto I have, and although Corelli had a great voice, Pavarotti far surpasses him in clarity, tone, and natural musicality. His voice might not have been quite as big as the dramatic tenors, Del Monaco or Corelli, but it was by far the most beautiful. We also have to remember that a proper technique should make the voice last a lifetime. Corelli was finished at 50 because of vocal challenges. In contrast, Pavarotti was nearly 60 at the second Three Tenors concert in Los Angeles in 1994. Listen to his Nessun Dorma there. It's amazing, as were all his arias there. He continued to perform live up until a year before his death at 71. For me, the big three will always be Pavarotti, Corelli, and Del Monaco, but Pavarotti stands head and shoulders above. I also wish Corelli had lasted longer.
this is the voice of the ages, the best male voice of all time, I know nothing, I listen to all the experts, fellow singers, so this is just the truth , not an opinion. I feel sad for those who don't have the ear, or soul, or heart to know this and enjoy. what a voice, thoseC's are mind blowing. still rings through modern electronics, through time. BRAVO
Indeed, Araiza did end up returning to the Met in the 90s but by then he was past his prime. If you have ever heard that man sing, you will understand why Domingo was so jealous...the best tenor for Mozart since Wunderlich in my honest opinion, and the best tenor produced by Mexico to date.
Non ce parole per descrivere quello che sento al sentire questa interpretazione del MEASTRO Pavarotti,voce perfetta,finale forte,chiaro e lungo....ufff....incredibile...bravissimo maestro Pava!
This great performan includes to terrific high "C's" of the kind I remember driving audiences nuts when I heard him,(as I( often did at the Met, and also frequently next door at " Philharmonic Hall" ) live. I have been amazed and disappointed to find else where the utterly false and idiotic assertion that Pavarotti's voice was small. His voice was mid-to large sized but had an incredibly vibrant, intensely resonant and exciting presence in the hall.
SHICOFF1 I guess he was pretty fine big for a lyric. Domingo, often criticized for a small voice, was similar to pavarotti in voice size, and there were tons of singers topped with del monaco with voice size.
esolean7 I think Pavarotti must have had crisp overtones and a very cutting type of voice. The microphones always pick up his voice quite well. He not only records well on record, but he seems to record well even with a distant mic in the theater. That is an interesting phenomena regarding him. The only sure way is be in theater, but perhaps he is emitting overtones that are not readily picked up by the ear but more easily by the mic. I have no idea.
Pavarotti almost certainly did not have a large voice. Certainly no bigger than a standard lyric tenor although he started out lyrico leggero. This is of course in terms of volume. However, it was a very free and ringing voice and he also employed very good compression. When he sings C#s with Dame Sutherland, there is no doubt about who the bigger voice is, however, Pavarotti is very present. His C# cuts through Dame Sutherland's. This is the case in all of his recordings as well, never very loud but always very present.
Don't forget F. Bonisolli. I don't think any of the 'big tenors', del Monaco, Corelli, Tucker, ever sang it in the correct key live, but they sure could excite even down a half step...at the end of the day, most people can't tell what key it's in anyway.
no puedo entender como algunos dicen que su voz no era para el Manrrico del trovador , aquí está la orquesta tocando con toda la energía , las trompetas sonando y el coro y aún así se escucha perfectamente la voz de Pavarotti, bravo de verdad
Thanks for the wonderful job putting the audio and video together (along with all your other super uploads). Whether or not the video is actually from the performance with this audio, it looks perfectly natural. The quality of the DQP is just insanely good.
There's a La Boheme coming up at the Vienna state opera with Villazon. I was interested in going to see it, even though I don't think much of Villazon, I still want to see him before his voice is gone completely. I decided against it though. I've still got the Calleja 'Rigoletto' and 'La Boheme' to look forward to in these coming months.
Never have you put your argument against Domingo and others in more reasonable, less inflammatory tones. You should do that more often. =) I agree completely. This is an excellent performance.
I think that this is 1978, Vienna State opera (not La Scala as I previously thought) Von Karajan conducting. The beginning of his transition to heavier roles. He first sang Cavaradossi that year I think. He sang an OUTSTANDING Cavaradossi at the Met in 1978, the 'E Lucevan le Stelle' was wonderful (It's on RUclips if you don't have it yourself).
I heard that Domingo did something similar to Carreras... Can't remember where I read it, I think it was a was a quote. But it was something about Domingo unseating Carreras in order to get the performance. It didn't help that Domingo got on well with the management at the Met (not surprising with the amount of money he was bringing in for them). The 1977 Rigoletto that is widely praised by Domingo's fans (with the shouted high B in La Donna e Mobile) was supposed to be sung by Pavarotti.
We must remember however, that even these 'greatest televised moments' are also used as instruments of mass marketing. I could think of dozens of Met telecasts better than those just mentioned but of course they were not on the list.
I can't see how the results of that poll were instruments of mass marketing. They were voted for by the viewers. They are of performances that were broadcast live. They are mostly those of recent memory which is probably because those who saw the older telecasts may have passed away or simply weren't aware of the poll.
ci sarà stato un complotto pluto- tenorico-massonico... adesso non c'è nessuno perché non ci sono le vere scuole che facevano nascere i talenti del canto e cioè le Chiese, dove crescevano migliaia di ragazzini e fanciulle ..quasi tutti i grandi cantanti hanno cominciato così e poi la lirica ha sempre meno spazio nella società e nella cultura... purtroppo è quasi morta I miei rispetti
Bravo indubbiamente anche se io non impazzisco x pavarotti .comq provate a sentire certo tal filppeschi poi mi direte o se volete piu recente il tenore zambon .saluti a tutti i melomani .
Fuori repertorio voce limitata i vari Filippeschi Bonisolli Giacomini Atlantov Vichers del Monaco Corelli Tucker Gigli Merli Nikolov Marazoff Vinay se lo mangiano a colazione.
I wish someone could just slap some sense into Rolando and tell him the phrase that every singer should know, "singing is like speaking". Poor man...what a shame. I think he has a great voice, and I don't think he should be trashed as harshly as he does, because I love his personality and his voice, but someone needs to tell him to RELAX...it's probably too late already...oh well, what a waste. Damn...there goes another.
Verona 1978 - io c'ero - grande prova di Pavarotti ma anche di Ricciarelli, Cappuccilli e Cossotto, dirigeva Gavazzeni (regia di Bolchi) voce fresca giovanile di un vero eroe adolescente, romantico e appassionato... e poi che acuto finale ....una folgore In quello stesso anno, sia Bonisolli sia Domingo steccavano bellamente a Vienna (con Karajan)..Bonisolli fu fischiato dal pubblico e protestato, mentre Domingo prese qualche buu (live TV Svizzera) ...capita (Domingo fece recite migliori)
Roberto Alagna's was far better than any tenor alive, his performance was perfect and he sang ringing high Cs that are yet to be bettered. ^ For all those without a sarcasm detector, that was a joke. Listen to Alagna's 2006 Di Quella Pira, it's painful.
Nobody beats Corelli singing "il Trovatore" many good tenors tried it in the past,but no one,in my humble opinion,will ever sing "Di quella Pira" better than the great Corelli.
They did make a big mistake. The 1981 Rigoletto at the Met four years later was a massive triumph. In fact, the 'La Donna e Mobile' from the 1981 performance was voted the 11th greatest televised moment at the Met. Pavarotti took 2nd with his 1977 Che Gelida Manina and 5th with the 1981 Una Furtiva. Regardless, no matter how much he 'got friendly' with the management and pushed other singers away. The fact still remained that while Domingo's acting was good. The singing wasn't so great.
Villazon has some sort of collaboration with Domingo doesn't he? You'd think it would help having a veteran tenor looking after you. But with Domingo's technique, I guess not. It's hard to tell whether he's wrecked his voice completely. He had nasty cracks in Don Carlo, but the rest was OK. He hasn't gotten to shouting high notes yet. So maybe he can save his voice, I doubt it.
Marcelo Alvarez's performances are nothing to get excited about. Nothing compared to Bjorling or Pavarotti's versions in key. Look how his whole body tenses up and his mouth is gaping open on those high notes. By modern standards it is quite good though, especially when you have Licitra and Alagna trying to be the new Corelli.
Domingo always sounds to me like some one- perhaps a gifted comic impressionist- mocking an operatic tenor . He has snob appeal because he is from quite a posh background, and had all the early musical training Pavarotti didn't because he couldn't afford it. Just imagine if Pav HAD had Domingo' s training.
confermo quanto detto anche perché ero a Verona in quei giorni e ricordo quello che ascoltai .. Giacomini è stato un buon tenore drammatico con voce baritonale e acuti non troppo lucenti (se permette l'ho visto in Forza, Fausta, Pagliacci, e altro) Domingo è un vero tenore e con splendida voce.. Pavarotti tenore leggero? mai stato : ha debuttato in Bohème non la vedo molto competente in materia di canto...
Si senti bravo a Pava senza microfono,l'orchestra non é sopra lui,la sua voce é potente e i suoi C's sono bravi e lunghi .Evidentemente essistono un'altri tenorí di voce piu grande,ma Pava faceva bravissimo la Pira.Saluti.
After taking a closer look at the video, I knew that there was no way that was one of the Vienna Il Trovatores with Price. It's outside, so that must be the Arena di Verona, which certainly explains his standing at the front of the stage. He did a series of performances of Manrico at the Verona Arena with Ricciarelli and the existing recording of a performance does show him doing this stretta with the B. He did it with C in San Francisco, Joan Sutherland called it 'magnificent'.
Apparently Domingo tried to cripple his competitor's careers by singing at the houses they were engaged to sing at. Apparently he pushed Araiza away from the Met and did something similar to Carreras's career. I have no proof though. That's why Pavarotti said 'He is a good artist, but he isn't a good person' Something like that.
LUCIANO PAVAROTTI BRAVISSIMO. La Pira è cantata in tono....mi spiego meglio....tanti abbassano di un semitono....spero che chi loda altri tenori sia in grado ...di capirlo....
piccolina ...allora secondo me non c'eri, perchè la voce si sentiva in ogni ordine e grado dell'Arena, come in Gioconda; tu confondi il volume con il timbro: una voce timbrata è più penetrante di una di grana grossa, questione di emissione in maschera...la voce di Volpi per esempio era formidabile non nel volume (come Merli Corelli Del Monaco) ma nello squillo fenomenale, anzi Volpi alleggeriva le note centrali ... poi se dici che Florez potrà fare Otello allora...contento tu ....
1) non ho sentito Nikolov dal vivo; non si può avere sentito tutti né viventi nè ovviamente del passato ..esistono le registrazioni e i limiti tecnici e interpretativi sono evidenti (Nikolov è ingolato e si sente) anche Dvorski aveva il re e conta poco ... se per giudicare o avere opinioni bisogna avere visto e sentito di persona la storia non esisterebbe...o no? l'estensione e la potenza è relativa .. a me interessano altri aspetti ..de gustibus..
l'unica cosa vera che hai detto è che ad ognuno ha i propri gusti ... a me Usunov, Vinay e Nicolov fanno accapponare la pelle ....voci perfide e tecnica dilettantesca e in più dizione ridicola (a parte Vinay) Bonisolli è stato fischiato più volte in teatro ma voce e dizione almeno ci sono Giacomini ottimo professionista ma non credo abbia lasciato segni nella storia Corelli e DelMonaco sono certamente di un altro rango
non l'hai mai sentito secondo me ...comunque ognuno ha i suoi preferiti quanto agli dei ... non mi intendo di teologia tenorile fatto sta che qui c'è un si naturale lucentissimo che dura circa dieci secondi e dal vivo ce ne sono pochi che possono competere...e il suo Trovatore non si limitava a quello e poi era simpatico come purtroppo non erano Volpi e Delmonaco
Corelli non era antipatico ma non possedeva certo la vitalità tutta emiliana di Luciano
mongemark : sono sicuro che Lei non ha mai sentito dal vivo Usunov,Nikolov e Vinay ! Le do un esmpio : in Turandot -Nicolov -Calaf aveva voce piu scura di Ghiuselev -Timur ! Nicolov cantava ogni recita in tonalita originale,questo tenore era il re degli acuti ,cantava re bemole e do con voce di petto come bombe !Usunov ha incominciato come baritono e poi ha cantato Otello e tutto il repertorio eroico ! Loro registrazioni sono bruttissime, qualita artistica sotto 0 !
And therein, lay the problems of his last years! He was so ill and so tired, and in my humble opinion, craved to stop much sooner than he did---however, the applause never stopped and he never failed to please the "boss", so he continued on making his once "great pleasure" a chore which led to "phoning in" performances, many cancellations, and a terrible attitude when it came to his work---just saying.
Nikolov aveva certo un bel timbro e quella che si dice una buona voce, ma ripeto è quel modo di cantare che non mi piace, troppo forzato (e ingolato nelle note di passaggio); Usunov proprio no, se poi MDel Monaco si era ingelosito per Nikolov (che non ha neanche una voce su enciclopedie) mi spiace sarà stato un periodo di depressione ... Vinay altra vociaccia sia in Verdi sia In Wagner gli altri li ho sentiti e visti dal vivo ma non mi sembrano cantanti di levatura storica... saluti
yeah i guess listening to it a few more times i heard some of that pavarotti in it mostly in the high notes, it'z just a strange recording of his voice
Live. In key. Sings over the chorus. Gets all the syllables at the end. Yep. This performance had it all.
I am not a big fan of Pavarotti but I agree with everything you stated.
To the contributor who stated that they didn't think this was Pavarotti but someone else, you can't have much of an ear, I'm afraid. This is 100% Pavarotti. Simply stupendous top Cs. It must be terrifying to sing this live - there is so much that could go wrong.
Bang on. The other contributor must be cloth-eared if he can't recognise Pavarotti's unique timbre. This is simply incredible live singing. 👏
Very much Pavarotti!
100% Pavarotti, the unique voice.
@@sageoopnorth1937 true,maybe because it's immensely famous,but if there is one voice among tenors I can't misunderstand, is this voice.
Luciano Pavarotti at his best 100%❤
Magnificent... and insane, the orchestra is pretty loud and it is played quite fast and Pavarotti hits the difficult notes in original key perfectly... pure excitement!!
1978 la voz intacta en la nota correcta, su timbre bellisimo y unico, NADIE ha podido igualarlo, grande Luciano descansa en paz!!!!
This is precisely why he remains peerless, as he was in his lifetime. There are many fine tenors, but no one has come close to surpassing him. His is the kind of voice that comes along once in a century, maybe two.
Well, it hasn't been quite two centuries since tenors started singing the high C in full chest.
‘No one has come close to surpassing him’? Are you kidding me? Have you ever heard about Corelli?
@@toivonencresto I have, and although Corelli had a great voice, Pavarotti far surpasses him in clarity, tone, and natural musicality. His voice might not have been quite as big as the dramatic tenors, Del Monaco or Corelli, but it was by far the most beautiful.
We also have to remember that a proper technique should make the voice last a lifetime. Corelli was finished at 50 because of vocal challenges. In contrast, Pavarotti was nearly 60 at the second Three Tenors concert in Los Angeles in 1994. Listen to his Nessun Dorma there. It's amazing, as were all his arias there. He continued to perform live up until a year before his death at 71. For me, the big three will always be Pavarotti, Corelli, and Del Monaco, but Pavarotti stands head and shoulders above. I also wish Corelli had lasted longer.
@@L1623VP sorry, but if you only compare Pav to Corelli i can’t talk about opera with you. All the best
@@toivonencresto If you think Corelli is better than Pavarotti, then I agree on ending the conversation, as well. Best to you in return.
No se pueden explicar con palabras las emociones que siento al escuchar al mas grande de todos los tenores. Eterno Pavarotti !!!
this is the voice of the ages, the best male voice of all time, I know nothing, I listen to all the experts, fellow singers, so this is just the truth , not an opinion. I feel sad for those who don't have the ear, or soul, or heart to know this and enjoy. what a voice, thoseC's are mind blowing. still rings through modern electronics, through time. BRAVO
Indeed, Araiza did end up returning to the Met in the 90s but by then he was past his prime. If you have ever heard that man sing, you will understand why Domingo was so jealous...the best tenor for Mozart since Wunderlich in my honest opinion, and the best tenor produced by Mexico to date.
This melody was specially tailored to the voice and expression of Luciano Pavarotti, a masterpiece of singing !
Please!!! Corelli IS Manrico!!!
GRANDE MAESTRO. GRANDE, BRAVO!!! Inolvidable Luciano, el más grande de todos.
thank you very much for posting this video, it shows just how good he really was, cheers.
Absolutely thrilling. Thank you.
Non ce parole per descrivere quello che sento al sentire questa interpretazione del MEASTRO Pavarotti,voce perfetta,finale forte,chiaro e lungo....ufff....incredibile...bravissimo maestro Pava!
Waauw... He was near his best period here! Thanks for sharing such a great performance.
This great performan includes to terrific high "C's" of the kind I remember driving audiences nuts when I heard him,(as I( often did at the Met, and also frequently next door at " Philharmonic Hall" ) live. I have been amazed and disappointed to find else where the utterly false and idiotic assertion that Pavarotti's voice was small. His voice was mid-to large sized but had an incredibly vibrant, intensely resonant and exciting presence in the hall.
+eoselan7 "two"...sorry for the typos...
SHICOFF1 I guess he was pretty fine big for a lyric. Domingo, often criticized for a small voice, was similar to pavarotti in voice size, and there were tons of singers topped with del monaco with voice size.
esolean7
I think Pavarotti must have had crisp overtones and a very cutting type of voice. The microphones always pick up his voice quite well. He not only records well on record, but he seems to record well even with a distant mic in the theater. That is an interesting phenomena regarding him. The only sure way is be in theater, but perhaps he is emitting overtones that are not readily picked up by the ear but more easily by the mic. I have no idea.
Pavarotti almost certainly did not have a large voice. Certainly no bigger than a standard lyric tenor although he started out lyrico leggero. This is of course in terms of volume. However, it was a very free and ringing voice and he also employed very good compression. When he sings C#s with Dame Sutherland, there is no doubt about who the bigger voice is, however, Pavarotti is very present. His C# cuts through Dame Sutherland's. This is the case in all of his recordings as well, never very loud but always very present.
Pavarotti’s voice WAS small. If you want to hear a voice that fills the theater listen to Corelli
Thanks for sending this clip of Pavarotti in Trovatore; certainly in the seventies he could do a fine if not energetically heroic Manrico.
Pavarotti eterno imortal vc está sempre vivo no meu coração. Deus vídeos alegra minha vida. DEUS lhe dê muita PAZ.
Still the one and only Maestro,
He did sing it live with Cs, it was remarkable, they both were outstanding singers. Even though their voices were meant for light roles.
Probably the greatest tenor voice for roles such as this, particulary in his prime years 1980+or- 5 or 10 years
THE BEST VIDEO IN RUclips....
Te echamos de menos. FOREVER PAVAROTTI.
UNICO !!!!! con esa nota super aguda, emitida comodamente.....
OO you are right,all night i thought about your comment !!!I am so borning!!You are very smart,well done!!!
Great post, thanks.
❤❤❤向帕華落帝致敬!❤❤❤Pavarotti,Thank You!❤❤❤
Magnificent Luciano!!!
Don't forget F. Bonisolli.
I don't think any of the 'big tenors', del Monaco, Corelli, Tucker, ever sang it in the correct key live, but they sure could excite even down a half step...at the end of the day, most people can't tell what key it's in anyway.
El mejor de la historia❤
El mejor es enrico caruso
Sin duda Un Grandísimo Tenor!!!!!!
Bravi, bravi Luciano !
Bravi is plural for bravo.
historique Luciano !
To be fair, if I were Placido Domingo, I think I would have hated Pavarotti with a passion, too.
no puedo entender como algunos dicen que su voz no era para el Manrrico del trovador , aquí está la orquesta tocando con toda la energía , las trompetas sonando y el coro y aún así se escucha perfectamente la voz de Pavarotti, bravo de verdad
Habe ich 1978 gesehen! Einfach toll,
STUD. BRAVO PAV!
Thanks for the wonderful job putting the audio and video together (along with all your other super uploads). Whether or not the video is actually from the performance with this audio, it looks perfectly natural. The quality of the DQP is just insanely good.
Awesome!!
He is amazing.
One of the best all armi i' ve heard
madonna! da brividi
There's a La Boheme coming up at the Vienna state opera with Villazon. I was interested in going to see it, even though I don't think much of Villazon, I still want to see him before his voice is gone completely. I decided against it though. I've still got the Calleja 'Rigoletto' and 'La Boheme' to look forward to in these coming months.
Never have you put your argument against Domingo and others in more reasonable, less inflammatory tones. You should do that more often. =) I agree completely.
This is an excellent performance.
Ah, yes,. An elegantly worded well thought out replyIi am sure you were up all night composing.
Turns out this is actually from 1977, the live broadcast had major problems, which is why the original one posted came out much lower I guess.
I'm going to have to agree with you here...that's exactly why he's hovering over the pit.
Sin palabras... No sabía que existiera esta grabación. Acabo de sufrir el síndrome de Stendhal
Siempre braviiiisimo.
Che fenomeno!
I think that this is 1978, Vienna State opera (not La Scala as I previously thought) Von Karajan conducting. The beginning of his transition to heavier roles. He first sang Cavaradossi that year I think. He sang an OUTSTANDING Cavaradossi at the Met in 1978, the 'E Lucevan le Stelle' was wonderful (It's on RUclips if you don't have it yourself).
Te amo ,mi vida ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I heard that Domingo did something similar to Carreras... Can't remember where I read it, I think it was a was a quote. But it was something about Domingo unseating Carreras in order to get the performance.
It didn't help that Domingo got on well with the management at the Met (not surprising with the amount of money he was bringing in for them). The 1977 Rigoletto that is widely praised by Domingo's fans (with the shouted high B in La Donna e Mobile) was supposed to be sung by Pavarotti.
Grande Do!
1978, just as it says in the title.
We must remember however, that even these 'greatest televised moments' are also used as instruments of mass marketing. I could think of dozens of Met telecasts better than those just mentioned but of course they were not on the list.
I can't see how the results of that poll were instruments of mass marketing. They were voted for by the viewers. They are of performances that were broadcast live. They are mostly those of recent memory which is probably because those who saw the older telecasts may have passed away or simply weren't aware of the poll.
ci sarà stato un complotto pluto- tenorico-massonico...
adesso non c'è nessuno perché non ci sono le vere scuole che facevano nascere i talenti del canto
e cioè le Chiese, dove crescevano migliaia di ragazzini e fanciulle ..quasi tutti i grandi cantanti hanno cominciato così
e poi la lirica ha sempre meno spazio nella società e nella cultura...
purtroppo è quasi morta
I miei rispetti
😍
Bravo indubbiamente anche se io non impazzisco x pavarotti .comq provate a sentire certo tal filppeschi poi mi direte o se volete piu recente il tenore zambon .saluti a tutti i melomani .
Fuori repertorio voce limitata i vari Filippeschi Bonisolli Giacomini Atlantov Vichers del Monaco Corelli Tucker Gigli Merli Nikolov Marazoff Vinay se lo mangiano a colazione.
I wish someone could just slap some sense into Rolando and tell him the phrase that every singer should know, "singing is like speaking". Poor man...what a shame. I think he has a great voice, and I don't think he should be trashed as harshly as he does, because I love his personality and his voice, but someone needs to tell him to RELAX...it's probably too late already...oh well, what a waste. Damn...there goes another.
Where was this? Excellent performance!
Verona 1978 - io c'ero - grande prova di Pavarotti ma anche di Ricciarelli, Cappuccilli e Cossotto, dirigeva Gavazzeni (regia di Bolchi)
voce fresca giovanile di un vero eroe adolescente, romantico e appassionato...
e poi che acuto finale ....una folgore
In quello stesso anno, sia Bonisolli sia Domingo steccavano bellamente a Vienna (con Karajan)..Bonisolli fu fischiato dal pubblico e protestato, mentre Domingo prese qualche buu (live TV Svizzera) ...capita (Domingo fece recite migliori)
pavarotti sang this Di quella pira in the original key (C hight). Afther that he continius singin this aria but 1/2 down
Roberto Alagna's was far better than any tenor alive, his performance was perfect and he sang ringing high Cs that are yet to be bettered.
^ For all those without a sarcasm detector, that was a joke. Listen to Alagna's 2006 Di Quella Pira, it's painful.
Nobody beats Corelli singing "il Trovatore" many good tenors tried it in the past,but no one,in my humble opinion,will ever sing "Di quella Pira" better than the great Corelli.
what year was this? this was in the original key which he didn't tackle live in his later years...
Naturally. Didn't say it was bad.
O patria mia from Aida sung by Leontyne Price.
I wonder where a copy of the full performance exists...
If J.K. ever heard this performance, he never would have performed this role -- oh, well ... I guess he missed it !
They did make a big mistake. The 1981 Rigoletto at the Met four years later was a massive triumph. In fact, the 'La Donna e Mobile' from the 1981 performance was voted the 11th greatest televised moment at the Met. Pavarotti took 2nd with his 1977 Che Gelida Manina and 5th with the 1981 Una Furtiva.
Regardless, no matter how much he 'got friendly' with the management and pushed other singers away. The fact still remained that while Domingo's acting was good. The singing wasn't so great.
Villazon has some sort of collaboration with Domingo doesn't he? You'd think it would help having a veteran tenor looking after you. But with Domingo's technique, I guess not. It's hard to tell whether he's wrecked his voice completely. He had nasty cracks in Don Carlo, but the rest was OK. He hasn't gotten to shouting high notes yet. So maybe he can save his voice, I doubt it.
전성기때의 파바로티는 타의 추종을 불허하네요.. 와~~
What made No.1?
Velocizzata troppo secondo me. Forse era stata suonata un semitono sotto.
Or to make sure a prospective young hispanic doesn't threaten his self proclaimed position as king of Spanish tenors.
The best caruso
Marcelo Alvarez's performances are nothing to get excited about. Nothing compared to Bjorling or Pavarotti's versions in key. Look how his whole body tenses up and his mouth is gaping open on those high notes. By modern standards it is quite good though, especially when you have Licitra and Alagna trying to be the new Corelli.
Domingo always sounds to me like some one- perhaps a gifted comic impressionist- mocking an operatic tenor .
He has snob appeal because he is from quite a posh background, and had all the early musical training Pavarotti didn't because he couldn't afford it.
Just imagine if Pav HAD had Domingo' s training.
Woah really? 😱
All'aaEEEEEEEERMEEEEEE!!!111
confermo quanto detto anche perché ero a Verona in quei giorni e ricordo quello che ascoltai ..
Giacomini è stato un buon tenore drammatico con voce baritonale e acuti non troppo lucenti (se permette l'ho visto in Forza, Fausta, Pagliacci, e altro)
Domingo è un vero tenore e con splendida voce..
Pavarotti tenore leggero? mai stato : ha debuttato in Bohème
non la vedo molto competente in materia di canto...
Es en serio que domingo era un gran tenor no daba el do gran del monaco coreli jussi bonosoli fleta pertile gayarre vinay gigli kraus y muchos mas
Si senti bravo a Pava senza microfono,l'orchestra non é sopra lui,la sua voce é potente e i suoi C's sono bravi e lunghi .Evidentemente essistono un'altri tenorí di voce piu grande,ma Pava faceva bravissimo la Pira.Saluti.
Why should I keep talking, if you are already convinced? I have said what I wanted to say.
No...more...fights...please. Go do it in the back alley, not on my videos.
After taking a closer look at the video, I knew that there was no way that was one of the Vienna Il Trovatores with Price.
It's outside, so that must be the Arena di Verona, which certainly explains his standing at the front of the stage. He did a series of performances of Manrico at the Verona Arena with Ricciarelli and the existing recording of a performance does show him doing this stretta with the B.
He did it with C in San Francisco, Joan Sutherland called it 'magnificent'.
Apparently Domingo tried to cripple his competitor's careers by singing at the houses they were engaged to sing at. Apparently he pushed Araiza away from the Met and did something similar to Carreras's career. I have no proof though.
That's why Pavarotti said 'He is a good artist, but he isn't a good person' Something like that.
LUCIANO PAVAROTTI BRAVISSIMO.
La Pira è cantata in tono....mi spiego meglio....tanti abbassano di un semitono....spero che chi loda altri tenori sia in grado ...di capirlo....
its him
Luciano pavarotti
Really? Pity. Oh well, it sounded authentic. =P
Funnily enough GermanOperaSinger... this incorrectly pitched, lol.
piccolina ...allora secondo me non c'eri,
perchè la voce si sentiva in ogni ordine e grado dell'Arena, come in Gioconda;
tu confondi il volume con il timbro: una voce timbrata è più penetrante di una di grana grossa, questione di emissione in maschera...la voce di Volpi per esempio era formidabile non nel volume (come Merli Corelli Del Monaco) ma nello squillo fenomenale, anzi Volpi alleggeriva le note centrali ...
poi se dici che Florez potrà fare Otello allora...contento tu ....
1) non ho sentito Nikolov dal vivo; non si può avere sentito tutti né viventi nè ovviamente del passato ..esistono le registrazioni e i limiti tecnici e interpretativi sono evidenti (Nikolov è ingolato e si sente)
anche Dvorski aveva il re e conta poco ...
se per giudicare o avere opinioni bisogna avere visto e sentito di persona la storia non esisterebbe...o no?
l'estensione e la potenza è relativa .. a me interessano altri aspetti
..de gustibus..
Pavarotti :Medium size voice, with an awesome volume level, and a perfect technique!
l'unica cosa vera che hai detto è che ad ognuno ha i propri gusti ...
a me Usunov, Vinay e Nicolov fanno accapponare la pelle ....voci perfide e tecnica dilettantesca e in più dizione ridicola (a parte Vinay)
Bonisolli è stato fischiato più volte in teatro ma voce e dizione almeno ci sono
Giacomini ottimo professionista ma non credo abbia lasciato segni nella storia
Corelli e DelMonaco sono certamente di un altro rango
non l'hai mai sentito secondo me ...comunque ognuno ha i suoi preferiti
quanto agli dei ... non mi intendo di teologia tenorile
fatto sta che qui c'è un si naturale lucentissimo che dura circa dieci secondi
e dal vivo ce ne sono pochi che possono competere...e il suo Trovatore non si limitava a quello
e poi era simpatico come purtroppo non erano Volpi e Delmonaco
Corelli non era antipatico ma non possedeva certo la vitalità tutta emiliana di Luciano
mongemark : sono sicuro che Lei non ha mai sentito dal vivo Usunov,Nikolov e Vinay ! Le do un esmpio : in Turandot -Nicolov -Calaf
aveva voce piu scura di Ghiuselev -Timur ! Nicolov cantava ogni recita in tonalita originale,questo tenore era il re degli acuti ,cantava re bemole e do con voce di petto come bombe !Usunov ha incominciato come baritono e poi ha cantato Otello e tutto il
repertorio eroico ! Loro registrazioni sono bruttissime, qualita artistica sotto 0 !
And therein, lay the problems of his last years! He was so ill and so tired, and in my humble opinion, craved to stop much sooner than he did---however, the applause never stopped and he never failed to please the "boss", so he continued on making his once "great pleasure" a chore which led to "phoning in" performances, many cancellations, and a terrible attitude when it came to his work---just saying.
Nikolov aveva certo un bel timbro e quella che si dice una buona voce, ma ripeto è quel modo di cantare che non mi piace, troppo forzato (e ingolato nelle note di passaggio);
Usunov proprio no,
se poi MDel Monaco si era ingelosito per Nikolov (che non ha neanche una voce su enciclopedie) mi spiace sarà stato un periodo di depressione ...
Vinay altra vociaccia sia in Verdi sia In Wagner
gli altri li ho sentiti e visti dal vivo ma non mi sembrano cantanti di levatura storica...
saluti
It's not bad, but I suppose there were tenors, who didn't have to step almost into the orchestra pit to be heard.
bravo ma meglio fra i tanti tenori il grande Corelli
Corelli è inarrivabile
yeah i guess listening to it a few more times i heard some of that pavarotti in it mostly in the high notes, it'z just a strange recording of his voice