Triumph Speed Twin Vance and Hines baffle removal dB killer test
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2019
- In this video I finally remove my Vance and Hines exhaust baffles, often called dB-killers. then do a sound test comparison.
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Thank God for that awesome intro, it made the entire 6 minute video that much better. Without it I wouldn't know what it was about and would be left in a total state of confusion.
Sounds like a proper bike now.
I was set on buying a Triumph, but couldn't decide which model until I found your channel. Absolutely love this bike, and I'm basically just copying you, now. Thanks for the videos, man.
Hi Adam, thanks for taking baffles 👍🏻 they sound deeper and better in my opinion . Most likely sound different in real life compared to a recording
Thanks for the thoughtful and thorough review. Good info for auspuff shoppers.
That is an absolutely righteous sound, perhaps the best sounding bike/exhaust combo ever. DB killers out for the win!
I like how you did the exhaust in steps, with corresponding sound bites, that was perfect. Stock didn't sound bad at all, had a deeper tone than the V&H slip-ons with the dB killers still installed. But the last step, with them out, the bike sounds awesome!
Also, just a tip from my BMW days (and BMW's overuse of those nasty circlips), I found it easier to stick an awl (or any sharp object with a handle) into the left hole and hold it steady while using the bent-nose pliers to grab the right hole and bend that side out. May not work on all those irritating little clips, but thought I'd share.
I love that Triumph 1200 sound! I have 2004 Bonneville 800 and it sounds good with replaced mufflers, but lacks that growl that 1200 has :)
I love the popping also love the sound at lowspeeds. Going to do the same to my wife's street twin now.
well i know what is coming out of my V&H exhaust this week
Stock and the setup without cat and db killers sound the best imo. They both have a nice deep sounding tone to them. Getting a mapping for the cat delete will probably take care of the popping on decell.
Ughhhhh. That sounds glorious!
I like -db killer sound.
I find it more bassy and sporty.
Really nice work Adam. The steps to the end result were just right. I did the de-cat to mine and like the sound (plus burbles) just as it is. (Having installed a set of D&D triple pipes on a 2003 Thunderbird Sport ) which was too loud to ride once done. Like to think I've learned my lesson or matured... Something;
I see you Owned a TBS, my favorite bike I’ve owned, how does it compare to the Speed Twin?
Another good vid Adam! It's funny, different tastes and preferences... I personally love the decel pop, and I have never preferred any exhaust with its baffle in. But its your bike and you gotta rock it your way! Personally I would have gone with TEC Bike Parts recommendation and not wasted $900+ on the V&H slip-ons and only done the X pipe, especially if you don't want to remove the baffles. To me, the V&H baffle in sounds extremely similar to the stock cans. ON another note, do you have any plans for lighting? I recently changed my front indicators on my Speed Twin to the Motogadget M Blaze and they are fantastic! Also relocated my rear indicators to shock mount. ALSO, was able to use your help from your DIY tail tidy video and do my own version, thank you again for making that video!!! Ride safe man. Keep it up!
Sounds awesome .
Adam Croll
spiritual successor to Bad Bonneville!
that macho sound without db killers
Nice sound ❤
That sounds soooo good
Great couple videos on this. Thanks for saving me $1000+
Same thing for me!
That sounds pretty good and not too loud.
Keep in out . Loud pipes save lives 😂
I prefer it stock.Thanks for posting👍👍
Super nice sound for me
If you don't like it put the baffles back in. Take db meter app in your phone and measure the output to the NEW 2019 California noise law which became law Jan 1, 2019. You can find it online how to measure. You should do a idle run to the temp fan comes on at idle to update the ECU. When you put in the k & n filter update the ECU again. You may have to do it several times to get the ecu reflashed correctly.
Without db sounds sick man
Took out the db killers on my V&H, throaty and sound great. Maybe a bit to deep though as I may have to start running ear plugs. Going to ride it for a while and see if I leave the db's out or put them back in. By the way I did the ECM run to idle and let the fan come on. Very little deceleration popping. I do think it affects low rpm torque but feel more of a rush around 5000 rpm.
Sounds the nutz Adam 👍👍👍👍 here in the uk we ain’t got the police breathing down our necks so much for loud pipes/emissions as you have in the states, I run a set of TORS on my America which gives it a nice rumble I had the remap but I still get the popping from the decel, 👌🤣 but them Vance n Hines do sound good mate with either the baffle in or out 👌 but I would imagine you would run them with the baffle in to save getting tugged all the time? 🤷♂️🤔 Another great video Adam thanks for taking the time to edit and put it up 👌👍👍
Police don't care in free states in America, places like california have it the worst as far as scrutiny for that stuff, and many other things
Life saver. I was so wondering why the f my v&h exhaust is so f ing quite. Even from the stock.
-db sounds amazing!
I have a Triumph Bobber with V&H (baffles out), X-Pipe and Booster Plug. I love the sound, it back pops on decel but I kinda like that too. I think your bike sounds great now.
Any difference on the performance? Just curious since I want to do those exact mods on my speedmaster
The measurable performance and auditory change after the “installation” of a de-cat (keeping the OEM pipes) on a Thruxton R makes me question about the need to install an aftermarket exhaust at all. Plus, there’s absolutely no need to fiddle with the ECU or anything else. If possible, I’d do that first then, if it’s not enough, experiment with an aftermarket exhaust. I like to hear what others think about this as well . . . thanks.
Hello. As an owner of a T 120 Bonneville, i would like to suggest you should consider adding a power commander or maybe a Booster plug. That would easily take care of the popping in the exhaust when you release the throttle after accelerating. Your motor may run to lean as you fitted both x-pipe and new exhaust.
I noticed the difference on my Thruxton with the exhaust but I kept my DB killers in .... Keep um in ...
I think stock pipes with the x pipe cat delete would be perfect for my taste.
that sounds delicious
Nice! Any dyno run? Did removal of the db-killer changed the performance?
That exhaust looks and sounds great! Thanks for the great video. What brand is the X pipe?
www.tecbikepartsusa.com/TEC_D_Cat_X_Pipe_p/t-ex-dc.htm
Hello, Adam. Just to make sure, is your exhaust part No A9600536? thanks!
Great vid. Any ideas on what bags you'll get? I'm thinking of doing exact same mods on my speed twin! keep up the great vids man
SW-Motec legend series bags! I already have the brackets, just waiting to make a vid when I purchase the bags.
@@AdamCroll How did you get the brackets for the Speed Twin. I don't see them listed yet on the site...
the stock exhuast sounds better. deeper and throatier
I have the V&H pipes with baffles removed and I love it. Probably the best sounding bike that I've ever had, imho. This video sounds good but doesn't do it justice (they never do). Even with the baffles removed they are not near as loud as my past Harley with Screaming Eagle exhaust, but still sounds respectably deep and loud enough when riding with Harley guys. In a crowd I couldn't even hear my bike with the stock pipes and was always incredibly paranoid that cars would not know if I was in their blind spot - they sounded great but just way too quiet. I listened to the V&H pipes once at the dealer with the baffles in and honestly it sounded just like stock to me, which had me horribly disappointed in my pricey investment. I immediately was like, "Yeah, those baffles have got to go." Then the mechanic came and got me after removing the baffles and the computer remap, had me start it up, and I've had a big grin on my face ever since. Sounds perfect. Loud but not obnoxious. Well, maybe a little obnoxious but not Harley obnoxious, which is perfect for me :)
Marcus, and did you do the X pipe mod? or did you just leave as it comes?
Yes indeed
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Any risk on leaning the mix out by opening it up? Computer need tuning?
Hi Adam, I’m buying a speed twin that’s already fitted with the EU spec of the V&H slip ons. Are the ones sold in California the same as the EU spec?
I know both places are fussy about noise and emissions. I’m hoping that small weld is all they’ve put in the EU version to avoid the baffles coming out.
If your decel popping is over the top, try remapping your ECU.
Hi, one question.
I have a 2020 Speed twin, I would like to improve the sound by removing the db, in the part of the video in which you remove them it seems to me that it is not the original black terminals, am I right?
Is the procedure the same?
Thank you
Yes! Now I don’t have to buy new headers 👏
Hello, thinking of getting a vance and hines exhaust for my speed twin. Can you install the baffles again if i remove them like this?
Sounds way better
Damn that sound though...phew... 🥺
Can't really tell with the video sound, but did you notice a difference in sound between the stock exhaust and V&H (before installing the x-pipe and removing the DB killers)? Wondering about getting them for my Speed Twin, they do look much better but if the difference in sound is nominal, might be a bit steep on the $.
On video it sounded better with the baffles. They are in there for a reason!
HEY MAN WHAT BLINKERS DO YOU HAVE?
Thx ~~~
My plan for my T100. Vance and Hines; remove baffles from slip ons, and run cat until my warranty is done. Then onto the x pipe cat-less.
Does anyone know if the V&H peashooters have a removable decibel killer/baffle?
That's more like it!
Stock Sounds the best
So much better now!!! Could you tell me the model of your GPS support?
Quad lock with my iPhone
Thanks for the video.. Just wondering is this with the xpipe as well?
Yes, it’s wide open now.
Don’t you have to remap or do anything else to compensate for the increased airflow? Isn’t it going to run lean? Does the onboard system compensate automatically? Great videos!
I did not have to remap, I did install a booster plug though, and it absolutely richened it up. It runs great as is though I’m always wondering what a proper ecu tune could do. I’m in no rush but I’m sure I will explore that in the future.
you should get a 2 to 1. e.g. TEC 2-1. It makes all the difference
Stock sounds better Adam.
hi Adam, is the V&H exhaust slip on much lighter than stock?
It is lighter, not sure how much though.
Hi, Is this US spec?
Ordered these V&H in Canada. Baffle was welded too but once I broke the weld and removed the clip to the db killers, the insert does not come out
Managed to get them out taking the pipes off again and using a bar stuck in the other end and hitting the bar with a rubber mallet. Yours came off so easy 😂😂
Something was wrong with your order if you didn't receive V&H pipes that come with a simple c-clip remover; Canada-spec V&H pipes do not have welded bits.
Owwwww the sound looks great! In my opinion, keep the db killer out....
Is there a possibility to reorder one of those exact baffles? I lost one of mine while riding. Thanks for your help guys!
You might have to contact Vance and Hines directly, because as far as I know any part numbers I know of are for the complete kit of the pair of slipon’s.
Great bike and great vid. It's just sad to me what they're doing in north America with the turning lights. So big. That Euro flat design is way better
I agree! I’m going to change to the euro spec in the near future!
@@AdamCroll I already inquired about the stock turning lights at a German triumph shop. About 50€/piece tax in.
If you do so, please let me know how they went about turning off the permanent on lights on the rear as I guess you wouldn't want that with yellow. I'm planning getting my bike next year and going to do the same!
curious...can you take out the baffles from the stock exhaust?
Not the US/California version but maybe the euro version could but I’m not sure.
I'm thinking about upgrading the exhaust system on my bike too, also triumph speed twin, but I was wondering about dynos. Do I need to do a dyno for just exhaust slip on Vance and Hines? How about that plus the x-pipe? How about all that plus removing the baffle? Very new to this, so some info would be much appreciated.
On a triumph you won’t need to dyno tune it with simple exhaust changes. Their computers are very adaptive.
@@AdamCroll Also, i live in California, and there are new rules bow about exhausts and db levels. I think the limit is 95bdA, also reading something about 88dbA. Would you know how loud the stock exhaust is, with a Vance and Hines is, with V&H and x-pipe is, and with V&H and x-pipe and removed baffle is?
can you put the baffles back in if removed and hows it on long drives with them removed?
Yes they can go back in anytime, just need to lock it in place with the snap ring. Long rides it’s fine, I’m use to it’s sound with the baffles out. It’s never felt like it was too loud but that personal preference I’m sure.
What camera are you using?
For this video I was using a Sony a6400. I use Blackmagic cameras currently
that sound is sexy, I have to admit
i was able remove both rings without a problem but one baffle i cant get out. seems to be stuck. any suggestions?
Maybe penetrating oil and a soft rubber mallet
Single double pipe on mine & it just sounds cheap with them Out ". .
Ha! you should see what CA did to the 2020 Thruxton models. My TFC has the cat welded to the exhaust. Forget about x-pipe unless you’re a pro with a machine shop. The baffles are also welded inside the silencer. No more c-clip :( I notice you have the giant honking CA turn signals. I ditched those for Rizoma Club. CA is over agro with the clean air laws for motorcycles. It’s not like LA has a trillion bikes on the road like cars.
That sucks! Limits the aftermarket for your bike for sure, my turn signals are gone for rizoma’s too. Check it out! ruclips.net/video/ljySGh8YF-g/видео.html
Stock without Killer makes the best Sound... in 2. Place is stock .
2:15 Mucho better!
What is the Triumph part number of this set of slip-on's?
Can’t remember off the top of my head though I believe mine were a different part number because of all the California regulations. So if you live somewhere other than CA it might be a completely different part number.
DB ,, 👍
“It’s definitely worse with the deceleration though”
“It’s definitely more annoying with the popping and banging”
“But ya know, whatever?”
Said no one! Ever!! 🤦🏻♂️
Its deep and throaty! Fine by me!
Wouldn’t be that hard to take the clip out with the proper tool.
Sometimes that’s not an option.
@@AdamCroll of course it is, Amazon, local auto store, they all have it.
Original klingt viel besser 😊😊
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lol raspy, sir that is not raspy
Very great sound... but you wake every neighbours.
And if I want to be honest, If I was the neighbour, I do a Head Shot to you if you destroy my ears at 4 am. (It's tile I go to work)...
So you think you will "get used to it," but the idea of putting the baffles back in for the ears of everyone else, does not cross your mind?
sounds like a Harley Davidson. just not. 😂
Clueless...