not sure, but it seemed like she wouldn't accept any type of help. She said specifically that Henry a was supposed to be taking care of her and even her son-in-law said that she was impatient and rude. I'm not sure if they could have forced her another type of care without her consent.
He’s not an abuser he’s an old man who snapped because she was so demanding physically mentally and probably emotionally that not even 3 different nursing homes could handle keeping her and he reached his breaking point with taking care of her 24/7 while also being an elderly person needing care himself
He tried to get help before it reached that point, and they didn’t do enough and she was also refusing to go back to a home and was apparently too belligerent for 3 different homes. She was probably a horror to take care of . Her own son and law said she probably contributed to her own demise and I do not doubt that.
This is why she asked if they were men’s men or women’s men. She knew that the police are a toxic masculine environment and they side with perpetrators!
agreed, this is declining partners will be declining partners, its nothing to do with men or women or sociopaths, naw. Good ol salty christians is my guess.
Well that's how they feel about homeless, disabled and the mentally ill. Never expect to be treated with dignity or respect. They're literally throwing dying people out of the hospital onto the literal street.
The lady does say shes not leaving her home when the Officers mention the Social Worker is looking for a care facility for her. Maybe shes been fighting to stay in her home, and if so, why cant they facilitate visiting care?
@@karenmossbryan7932 Maybe the team tried to help. I am a hospice nurse. My hospice do 24hr crisis care, but we can not do this forever. Unless you have long term care insurance, you have e to pay out of pocket. We also will offer to place you in one of our units, to get 24 hour care. Now if you refuse to leave your home ,then there is nothing we can do. She has a right to stay in her home. The police could have arrested him for threatening to kill her. He is a racist pos, but they thought he is old he wouldn't carry thru .I am glad we did not have one of our nurses, cna, Dr or Sw there are the time. He will get better care in prison sad 😔. It was a mess all around. He is on O2 she is bedridden of a certain size. How can she expect him to care for her? He is mean and abusive she is mouthy and needy. Meaning she is the type of person who wants you to hand them something, move this, give me that every 5min. Not a reason just saying this was a pulled Hand Grenade. Sorry.
@@margaretcarter7242 dude was living with a portable oxygen machine thing and could barely walk outside yet was expected to take care of a hospice patient whoever let that happen is what needs to be accounted for
@@dharmahikes he also said he needed help, and that nobody did anything about it. Not defending what he did, but he was clearly asking for help, and probably had been for a long time
Disrespected and disregarded- both of those words are so spot on. I could feel her frustration when she asked “are you a man’s man or a woman’s man?” “Aren’t you going to shake my hand?” He called her a burden right in front of her. He had no intention of helping this poor woman.
They offered to take her. They cant live there ffs. It was her choice to stay which meant she expected the man to do everything for her all day who was clearly struggling mentally. Cop couldnt of done anything. Where are her family you should be asking. Doesnt she have kids who should be there to help her during the end of her life. She clearly wasnt going to live long.
@@trouty7947 no, they didn't. they said erica, the woman's social worker, was trying to find a facility for juneanne to go, but juneanne said she didn't want to go because it was her home. the police left, telling henry that erica said to call her back when he's less mad
They had a reason for speaking with him like that. Not social conversation. They were sizing up the situation. Getting him off the defensive stand he had. But, I do think he never should have had the guns. He was unstable himself. Besides his age, he was not a nice person. Loaded guns should have been taken away from him. Not sure if the had the right at that instance.
I mean it was obvious she was scared and not being taken seriously, and the neighbors defending him and i hate when the murderers start crying about your “hurting me”, crazy you didn’t care about hurting her, this really gets me so angry 😢
@@user-xh5wx2nk1b his guns should not have been taken away from him she should have. He clearly didn't want to take care of her, he should have the right to not.
I agree. As someone with many chronic illnesses, I have 100% felt like a burden and even tried to self-delete. Being called a burden, and knowing there is literally nothing I can do and feeling like one, would just, ugh. People need to THINK before they speak.
It just made me think of becoming old and it’s such a deep feeling. I feel for everyone that is in this position. I remember when my ex gfs grandmother was on her deathbed. We were able to come into the room one last time and say our farewells. I told her that we loved her and she smiled at me. My ex gf didn’t have much to say but I spoke for her that day.
He called the police originally asking for help, literally asking them to take her out of his care cause he couldn’t handle it and they just left him and her distraught when obviously this should have been a hospital transfer or call into hospice to come ASAP before they left.
That was difficult to hear. This lady was so desperate. You could tell. Oof. This is the kind of stuff that makes you terrified of growing old. Who is really going to care about you if something happens to you out of your control. Love waxes cold way too often!
her begging them not to leave and giving them tasks to keep them there longer seriously breaks my heart. the signs was soooo clear especially with henry!! i wish they took action from the first visit, may juneanne rest in peace 💔💔💔
@@karmaroundi have no clue🤷🏽♀️ im thinking maybe the house was in their names so she had the right to stay or maybe she didn’t want to leave because she knew the issue wouldn’t be solved idk
no wonder the policeman didn't take his words about killing seriously. He was a tired, senile man who had enough, they talked to them and the woman said several times that she didn't want to leave the house. When she was really afraid of her partner, she would like to be taken away. Many of us sometimes get fed up and say that we will kill someone without really intending to do so. When talking to older people, you don't take their words literally, especially when someone is angry and tired (this man said he hadn't slept for 4 nights). The police are not social services, this woman should be in a nursing home and the police are not there to deal with this.
@@nemix5284 i get what your saying but still in a situation like this the police was supposed to talk to them separately & didn’t. maybe if they did this and understood the true fear she had, social services could’ve got involved more quickly. he was a tired old man that got to his end but it didn’t have to go as far as him killing her.
Yep. My Dad had a fall at 86 yrs and was my Mums carer. After the fall neither could look after one another anymore. We did the right thing and put them both in a Nursing Home because they both needed 24 hr care.
Ever since I was a kid, I always hoped that I would live fast and die young. Now, at 49, I still feel that I’d rather be dead than live like that. Living just to be alive is stupid to me especially at 80 something. Like what’s the point.
@@SolorockinOne My mom is 91½ bedridden in a nursing home. My dad has been gone for almost 2 years and she doesn't want to live anymore. I really hope that I don't live that long.
@@SolorockinOne I agree just to be alive has no meaning. I think a lot of folks later in years still find a lot of meaning in life so it’s worth it to stick around. 😊
Wtf are you talking about? Henry loved Juneanne very much. The poor man was pushed way beyond his caring capabilities but still carried on looking after her as best he could till he just couldn't anymore. The responsibility for this is entirely with society for failing to care adequately.
@@thatwierdbilly Of course, there's no justifying the murder but I do believe this is a snapping situation. He must have loved her a lot because caring for someone that incapacitated is very hard.
@@isking1715 i get it he loved her but he just didnt get any pause from her whining about everything like he said she went ballistic if someone took more than 5 minutes i think it was some kind of intrusive thought he had all the time and in the end he was so angry that like you said he snapped and just did the intrusive thought i can understand him but murder is just way too much
It is absolutely insane that she was removed from MULTIPLE care homes for her behaviour and they thought the safe option was to have an 86 yr old man be her 24/7 carer.
I mean what do you want them to do? They sound useless to begin with, an old lady walking around is too much for them to deal with? Sounds like a complete, absolute, total system failure to me.
He said he was gonna kill her 3 times, on body camera. The cop called her a burden while talking to her husband. I feel so badly for her..she was begging them not to leave 💔
Yes, and he was hinting as well to the police too this us why he's been let off he wasn't in a fit minded to look after anyone his age to much no sleep he snapped 😳 jus5 like that man told the police he's been putting up with her big mouth abuse at that old man he can only do not enough for her eyes so demanding he should of just walked out abd told someone I can't do this anymore
@@JulieIelasi-lt7yp what are you talking about ? Are you defending the killer ? What’s wrong with you, she’s an old lady in hospice he should’ve reached out for help ya but that’s not an excuse to kill anyone. Yea It’s not easy but he was just a big baby about it and had a temper tantrum that led to this tragic situation
It's so sad that this happened. I'm a nurse and it's all too often you see younger professionals disregard older people's concerns... Quick to dismiss them because, "he/she is just old and being difficult."... Wish this did not have to happen to both of them...
Uh they are being old and difficult. Sorry but facts Trump feelings. How to deal with a giant toddler requires training and better tools, both physical and mental. Unfortunately we as a society haven’t figured that out yet despite that most of us will be in that same position.
@@benguensche and because those cowardly cops weren't willing or wanting to actually do anything now you got a dead crazy lady and a crazy man who snapped. The cops should be fired for this.
@@joemama2455Henry told the Police “I’m gonna kill her.!” 9.56 into the video, the police laughed and said don’t say that! Maybe also check out what Henry said to the police 6.29 minutes into the video! This makes my blood boil, she was asking for help and never should have been left with Henry.
They were acting chummy in hopes he’d feel comfortable with them so they could gain information such as what kind of guns he has and how many and how trained he is in firearms. Outside of EMS reaching out to a social worker to find her other placement there prob wasn’t much that could be done. It’s a very unfortunate situation but it’s important to remember that he alone is responsible for his actions.
They always do that. And yes, they are partly to blame. When he told them "you didn't do anything to help me" it was true. They completely ignored the situation and the obvious signs that something bad could happen
Everything went wrong here. Everything. Both Henry and his wife needed help and they were dismissed. This video perfectly illustrates how little this society values the elderly. This was a complete failure of our system. I’m heartbroken. ❤
Shit like this is why I can’t work as an EMT or a nurse anymore. The system constantly fails the people who work in it and the people it’s supposed to help.
She was trying to get the officers to move in close to her so she could whisper to them without him hearing. They should have separated them to talk to each of them. She tried so many times. The dispatcher caught it and hopefully informed the officers of it. It was a total failure after her call.
Blows my mind how much they just waved him off. That’s not funny at all. Especially considering how he’s saying he’s fed up and tired/can’t handle this. So horrible. They both needed help and these officers failed.
I absolutely hate when people baby-talk to elderly people and take everything they say as a joke, like it's funny to threaten murder. Like, that's a fully grown adult, not a five-year-old.
@@SaintShion fr, that should be an insta red flag that he blatantly threatened killing her MULTIPLE times. I mean you can clearly see how pissed off this dude is from having to care for her 24/7. And from this encounter it probably seemed like nothing would really change for him. I know it’s easier to say this shit when you aren’t the one in the situation, but I feel like the officers could’ve read this a little better. The context surrounding his “joking” threats is a serious and angry man who is fed up with the person he’s supposed to care for. Definitely should imply that his threats should be taken pretty seriously.
I guess you just have to be old and decrepit to get away with shit like that. Not to mention they RELEASED the dude after charging him with murder. I didn’t realize being old is a get outta jail free card. Literally and figuratively lol
what are they supposed to do. people make viel threats all the time. it doesn't reach the level of a crime. they can't arrest him and they can't force her to leave. it's an impossible situation. she wasn't scarred enough to want to leave and he wasn't violent enough to arrest. the police can only do so much.
If you’re in front of a police officer, and you’re annoyed with your friend and you jokingly say you’re gonna kill them, do you want them to arrest you or smth?
They didn’t. It’s a technique to gain information. They’re in their home, they can hardly start shouting at him for the words he says. I totally agree this is a case that need picking apart and learning from and I feel incredibly sorry for the lady.
I cannot believe they left that poor man alone, on oxygen, who was begging for help, alone with her. He threatened to end her life on purpose to get help. I think, the comment about the social worker not wanting to talk to him is what did it.
I hear it all the time. Worked in social services for years with folks with different abilities and mental health concerns. The things some of my folks lived through are just unreal. I'm appalled they left after he straight up told them he would kill her and she begged them not to go, I'm unfortunately not surprised though. I get they have a job and can't just hang out but it's just not ok not in anyway
@@sarahbeaulieu999 I just watched a video of a cop breaking into a man's house and shooting him dead after telling him " this is our town" they do what they want because they are a bunch of thugs protected by qualified immunity
No, they had dealt with this couple a hundred times. And he was joking at the time elderly people often have mental degradation. It's not the cops fault it's more the family's fault for now helping out more.
Most of the time women aren’t listened to, especially old women. The cops identified and listened to the man from the start, much like mechanics, realtors, doctors and well, cops. It’s nothing new and is slowly changing. But these cops were only concerned about the man in this situation, not the victim literally begging for help
I've had a coworker accidentally dial 911 and 911 called them back just to check if they were okay. But when they're on call with an 80+ year old hospice patient that clearly is verbalizing they feel unsafe and they just let the call drop???? Are you serious right now????
Unfortunately the kind of social understanding your comment is implying, isnt automatically present in every person, and police are just random people. I agree with you, I wouldnt have said that either personally, seems pretttty distasteful and socially tonedeaf to use the word burden when shes on BEDREST yeah im sure its a burden for her as well to be stuck in a bed lol, we gotta remember that officers might be the kinds of people, we personally dont like. lol But they are still officers, maybe someone can help educate this guy on being more subtle as not to be a rude ass to people lol :P
These officers don't understand that a 86yr old person does not have same level of patience or energy to bear with things. Also old people have increased faith in God so Henry mentally cannot bear a "Sin" of murder in his list to make it to heaven
@@truck.-kun. if they even become officers it means they passed a state approved test that proved they have already dehumanized everyone thats not a rich european loyalist...
I'm a hospice nurse. This is more common than you think. Taking care of another sick and dying human is VERY stressful and exhausting. He may have called 911 because the hospice agency wasn't finding placement for her fast enough and he snapped. The whole system failed both of them.
I cared for my elderly mother and it’s extremely stressful. I was the only one that stepped up in my family. How could you desert someone that bore and raised you like a princess. 💔
She had been in several different places and she was too demanding and that's why she was at home on hospice care. He said this when the first officer in the morning was talking to him.
Henry, seems to be the only one thinking straight. For all you people on Medicare or Medicaid and for all you pay for that every month, your in for a rude awakening if you think there's going to be any help like what was needed here. Good luck to all of us.
Both HE and SHE told the officers what might happen. They BOTH asked for help. He couldn’t take her anymore making that clear and she didn’t want them to leave . How ironic they were talking about guns. MIND BLOWING
They did not take either him nor her seriously. How can you not feel at ease after this visit. I’m not even in law enforcement. Any person with a brain and a conscience would never have left that house. I have learned to go with your 1st mind.
I worked in Hospice Care,It’s so physically, Mentally and EMOTIONALLY exhausting. To watch someone slowly lose their light and everything that makes them, them! Making sure that they were comfortable and safe during this time, It kept me going. My first client passed and I was devastated! The impact he made throughout his life was amazing and thankfully that will live on. ❤❤❤
I was a CNA for 15 years. Carer burn out is so real. Who ever thought to leave an 86 year old man with health issues needs a new job. They were BOTH asking for help! How could they not realize that?
It’s tricky because she still had the capacity to make an informed decision for herself. She didn’t want to leave her home. Forcing her from her home would be kidnapping. People are allowed to make bad choices. However, having said all that, the repeated threats he made of killing her, whether or not perceived as a joke, should have initiated immediate action. First, you speak to them alone. Then you separate them and work towards getting her increased home care.
@@rachelreeb695 well if she wouldve had the decency to respect the only person left willing to take care of her this never wouldve happened, she made herself a an even worse burden than her disability with her mouth and rudness, not even her own son in law sounds like he cares that he jsut heard he get shot and killed over the phone, most people would be in shambles. i dont understand how someone who cant live without the help of others becomes rude to their caretaker, i would feel horrible to even have someone forced to wipe my ass left alone deal with constant hate bombardment at the age of 86. also trying to act like disabilities arent burdens is some next level stupid, you make situations worse when you try to ignore the elephant in the room, people who are disabled know how much of burden they can be, which is why kindness to the ones helping you out of their own good will is a must
It’s strange to me that an elderly person with health problems would be left to care for another elderly person with health problems. Why were they left to fend for themselves?
The worry he has for his dog made me well up. I work in elderly nursing care and it’s 24 hours. She needed a deprivation of Liberty in place to ensure she remained in full time care . Very sad state of affairs.
@@erbodyluvschocexactly. From what it sounds like she was very demanding and picky. He was an old man himself. He shouldn't have ever been forced to care for her on his own. It's no excuse to kill her but she should've had professional care or been taken to a nursing home or something. I don't condone him killing her, but i feel bad for what he had to go through in day to day life while he was just trying to survive the end of his life himself. Their family, and public services failed them both. It could have been prevented. He could have found a better way to say "leave me the F alone" though.
It's ironic because the only conservatives I've met who are passionately for gun control are cops. Because they see what guns do every day. Clearly this guy wasn't one of them.
But if she knew it's not a joke, why did she refused to be taken away from there? Why would she insist staying with a man she thinks is going to kill her?
....and arrest him for what? There is no prosecutor anywhere that would have taken a case, under those circumstances. My wife has been saying shes going to kill me for decades😂
@@BlueSkyUp_EU She said it in the video. It was her home too. Everything she had and owned was there. She didn't want to be forced to leave when she felt she had a right to be there. I would think that's a feeling we all could understand. She also may not have fully believed he would go through with it. She said he had threatened her life repeatedly before, but since she was still alive at the time, she may not have fully believed he would this time. Unfortunately, he actually followed up on his words. Personally, when someone feels confident enough to "joke" with the cops/EMS about killing someone, they are most likely no longer joking and it's time to take the situation _very_ seriously.
@@nikkithruthelookingglass183 he said it more then that in relations to doing so and the lady not being on the same terms he was on at all times she was talking during the video was clear sign something was wrong. I mean even saying "guns are ready to go" was weird in it self but the cop didn't take it as anything since he liked guns himself so he decided to make his relation to it.
I think he said that pretty glibly. I don’t think the Officers even really heard it clearly. Henry was quite clearly at the end of his tether and as a result he flipped and the gun just happened to be there and loaded. It’s a sad case all round
CMS affords hospice patients and their families something known as “reprieve” where you can admit the hospice patient into the hospital for a week or longer so the family can get time to rest. The problem here is the hospice patient is still alert and oriented enough, she’s refusing to go elsewhere. You can’t force her to leave.
@@michaelscott33 The social worker can indeed make the necessary phone calls to have her admitted, against her wishes, into a care facility. She failed at her job, miserably. My grandmother was on hospice at home and was an absolute nightmare to deal with. Thankfully we all took turns staying with her and my grandfather so he didn’t have to care for her alone. After a month, we had all had enough and had her placed in a lovely hospice care facility where she was well cared for and died peacefully. I hate to think of the toll it would have taken on my grandfather had we not been there 24/7.
@@michaelscott33respite care has a loooong waitlist. My dad was on hospice last year before he died. Hospice isn’t like it once was. It has cut back on how hands on they are now.
What should they have done? Forcibly removed her from the home or forcibly removed the man from the home? If they did the latter, who would have cared for the woman?
@@olilumgbalu5653 he threatened to kill her infront of the cop and his wife was severely distressed by this he could have questioned them individually and i think the wife would have asked to go with the cop
Multiple care homes and she doesn’t want to go into any other 24hr care facility but preferred to burden an 86yo frail man? 4 consecutive sleepless nights, he was on his last nerve! I wish he’d just called the cops and walked away for days instead of committing a crime.
As a doctor, this was preventable. Where was her hospice team? Who signed off on him being her caregiver. We KNOW how hard it is to be a young, healthy caregiver. Let alone be someone who needs care themself.
Absolutely! Also, the stress and frustration from the burden cause stress hormone cortisol to be constantly present in the body, which can eventually alter the brain. The law doesn't consider the possibility that some health conditions can cause mental issues where, if medically corrected, it could turn them into a completely different person.
That initial visit was such an obvious cry for help from both of them. They both had been pushed to their limits and were actively ignored by everyone. The fact that something so preventable happened at all is disgusting.
@@liddytheweeb I'm not victim blaming. Ever hear the saying "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it?" How many times did the officer suggest help and she flat out refused. Would you like the officer to drag her out of her house?
@liddytheweeb not victim blaming, neither of them accepted the help offered. Even on hospice, people are still cognitive of what is going on. If he couldn't have taken care of her, she needed to go to a hospice center. He needs to go for detox. It's twofold. They tried, but she didn't want to go, two tired elderly people. The cops can't force someone to leave, frustrations boil over and he went to far again while drunk.
My old buddy Mike couldn’t get any help. It was clear that he was dying and that he was completely alone. I went and took care of him in the morning and evening, preparing something to eat until I got back. He wasn’t stuck in a bed, but he couldn’t move around very long. He was mean as a snake and very demanding, but the right person could get him to respond. Had he went downhill in 2019 I believe he would have pulled through. Instead he ended up dying in a hospital with no visitors allowed in April of 2020. It was bad luck that he went down when the world was at the height of the panic. I’d say a lot of people died from conditions that couldn’t be treated at that time, but could have been easily treated in a normal time. The last thing I got from him was a message he didn’t mean to send. He pushed speech to text on his phone and I got the conversation between him and the doctor. Not all of it made sense, but some did. “Do you live alone?” “Yeah just me and my dog.” “Do you have any family?” “Yeah but they live hundreds of miles away and don’t talk to me. I got a friend who comes and takes care of me. Other than that, just my dog.” I got a call the next morning. All they’d tell me was that he was not ok and they wanted me to get in touch with a family member.
As an EMT and a caretaker of a geriatric family member myself. I can empathize with both sides. A lot of resentment builds up when it feels like my life isn’t my own and my existence is to serve anyone else but also feeling guilt and shame about setting boundaries or saying “enough is enough” because the other person doesn’t have any help and bills need to be paid and they are relying on you. I’ve learned the best way out is to ask for help (psychiatric, psychological, social, support groups) and other caretaker/home health aids and other family members. I’m 28 but I feel like I should have my own life but don’t know how. Being useful to someone else is all I know and put my worth in.
She didn’t even take him seriously. “I’m not going anywhere!” are not the words of someone who is afraid the person they live with will kill them. She was maybe afraid that he would be mean, or ignore her, but she was NOT scared for her safety. She would have been willing to be taken elsewhere if she was genuinely afraid
The man was begging the police to take her away and the original call “he made” was so that she could be safe, he even said take her or stay there with him, they refused to listen to him, if it wasn’t Agun , it would’ve been Aknife. He tried to get help but in his words, “wonderful, everybody talks, but no one actually does anything.” This is not a situation where it’s one person’s issue of handling it was everyone. if you listen to the things, he saying this wasn’t the first time he’s called to try to get her to leave and she’s obviously either been kicked out of nursing homes or walked out against medical advice.
"Oh he's just joking, nagging about the old ball and chain"... Probably what they thought. And I might've thought the same if it wasn't for all the other obvious signs. It really baffles me how nothing was done here.
@@Callidus7SSM That's not true at all. She's living with an abusive partner, first of all, the psychology of that alone is more complicated. And to add to that, plenty of elderly people simply shuffle off the mortal coil rather than enter nursing homes (more common in men than women, but happens to both)--sometimes they've lived 30+ years with next to no change to their lives and change is genuinely more scary than the alternative There's a reason many people eventually get taken in against their will, especially at her age
@@tinaarko6625 She obviously didn't want to die, but she refused to leave the house and go into hospice care where she needed to be. She had every opportunity to leave that house and be safe if she felt she was in danger. But she selfishly wanted to put the burden of care onto Henry who wasn't equipped to deal with that. He shouldn't have done what he did but he was obviously tipped to the boiling point of his capacity to handle it anymore. Apparently she had been kicked out of homes because she was so hard to deal with.
The one cop was literally admiring Henry for having guns after he threatened to kill her at least once. Then he leaves?? The cop even noticed a gun in the corner. Pathetic. Cops totally dropped the ball on this one.
ppl in the comments are saying that they couldn’t have done anything, they could have removed him from the residence. they could have asked them about details, asked each of them about what was occurring, but they didnt.
@@rixmagi Thats what happens when cops get a few hundred hours of training. There's a reason you rarely if ever see that happen in other first world countries.
My thoughts too… I am a nurse, and I am trying to figure out what nurse is coming into her home to do the assessments that they do on a weekly basis and not see that this is a very unsafe situation, and begin the process of removal of her in that home to someplace safe? I feel like whatever hospice this is, should be pursued in a lawsuit and whatever nurse this is, should also be pursued in a civil case.
I think this is the hardest video I've ever had to watch from you guys. I'm not even half way through, and I'm fighting back tears. I don't think I can finish this video to find out how this was carried out
She’s been in nursing homes and got kicked out because she gets mean. He’s OLD worn out and in bad shape himself. He shouldn’t be expected to wait on her or take care of her in his condition, yet he is. The EMS should’ve transported her to the hospital till adult protective services placed her. She’s refusing to go to a safe place herself. What a sad vicious cycle. Both old people are sick and need help. His drinking is about the worst thing he could’ve done. I’ve personally SEEN this happen to some people in my life. It’s a no win, never will get better situation. Our society and system doesn’t look after the elderly.
This! People in the comment section are basing their reaction off of what happened in the latter part of the video but the first part was very telling. You are spot on. Hospitalization would’ve been the best option to separate them for a short time. Giving both of them a break from each other. This story is truly heartbreaking. Prayers and peace to everyone involved 😔
She asked for a card and the officer had the nerve to act like he was irritated. As a young man who’s paralyzed and has a caretaker myself this is extremely concerning to me these officers didn’t care about her at all. Also shame on her social worker, this man was on oxygen and had no business having to take care of her all alone.
You only hear what you want to hear. They offered help, but she didn't want to take the help. Didn't you listen what the last guy had to say. Just because someone is disabled or sick it doesn't mean that the world revolves around them.
She could have gotten a bed sore from the pad not being flat underneath her. She’s literally just asking for what she needs… They left her there to die. I’m in tears.
I agree more should have been done. But I don't blame these officers either. They can only do so much. Hindsight is 20/20 but in the moment most of these things can like bad jokes, and a couple having arguments. But yes they should have taken her more serious when she started to scream for help.
I don't blame the officers but they certainly could have done a better job of speaking to her on her own... Although I'm not sure what would have come from that unless she had clear information of threats from him and was willing to be taken out the house. You can't blame her for not wanting to leave home but it's also unfair to expect to stay home despite not being in good health and her husband not being in good health. Should they have removed her from home against her will? I'm not sure but it's quite challenging and seems like only so much they can do. It would be interesting to k ow how much social worker was involved but again can they remove her against her will if she doesn't want to leave? Eeeek, I'm only at the point where the officers are leaving
@@cdouglas8393 Yeah I agree. How social workers or even medical centers allowed or considered that leaving a 82 year old on hospice in the hands of an 86 year old who needs an oxygen tank to get around was an acceptable condition is honestly what pisses me off the most. That's not even taking into account that there might be more going on with this man than we know. His confusion and anger might be symptoms of something we can't see because we're only getting a view from the body cam of the officers. I've seen what dementia can do to a person first hand and this is very similar to my own experiences. Not exactly the same but very close.
Sole carer burn-out is VERY real and can have tragic results if not taken seriously. The pair should have been separated and home care professionals bought in to assist in caring for June until an appropriate facility could be located for her.
This is so accurate. It is exhausting to care for a person with severe illness. To do it alone is almost impossible to imagine! This was elder abuse X 2!
Yeah thats hard, it definately gets to a point where even though she doesnt WANT to go, she needs to for her own health. Thats a really hard one to sort out for social workers im sure.
I was my moms caregiver for many months. I have systemic lupus and MS it was the hardest thing I ever did. My dad was a disabled vet so couldn't help. He made too much for free Medicare caregiver but not enough to afford one. Caregivers are $60-$150/hour. Way too much for most even middle class to afford. I was her only caregiver. But I made sure she was well cared for. The last few weeks my body gave out but thankfully my brother came from out of state to help. I would have never let my mom suffer. I can definitely understand why she needed help. No way could he do this on his own. Wish Medicare could offer free caregivers. Even if only part time. Even just enough to let the main caregiver rest. My mom passed last august. Miss her so much. My health is really bad now. It took everything I had to care for her. Hardest job in the world. I had also had a severe car wreck so many month before. Broke all ribs on my left side, compression spinal fracture, lower spine fracture, internal bleeding, and others. When I cared for my mom I was wearing my back brace but it really messed up my compression fracture. Everyone needs to prepare for their end of life. Please put money to the side or you'll be left without help or in this situation.
Carer’s syndrome. Sleep deprivation. 86 years old. We need to look after our elderly folks better. So sorry to all involved but we need to do better for the older folks.
Imagine having the killer says ''im gonna kill her'' TWO TIMES . IN FRONT OF THE COPSSSS. And just having the cops say ''yeah, I love people with guns cuz i have guns''. Holy shit I fucking can't.
You've never been around old people much other than your grandparents. In nursing homes you hear this kind of talk all day every day. 99% of the time it's cynical banter
This whole situation is ridiculous. You've got an 86-year-old trying to be a 24/7 caretaker for a completely disabled old woman, a task that would be difficult for someone half his age, and the cops just abandon both of them with no follow-up.
Agreed i was 15 to 17 taking care of my great grandma along side of my grandma, 22 to 26 caring for my grandpa along side of my grandma. It was very hard but there was 2 of us. We got breaks when we needed to. This is nuts.
Henry clearly suffered a mental break from all the pressure he was put under. It’s too much for a man of his age to be in charge of someone else’s care, let alone by himself. They needed help, both of them. This is so sad.
Yes I feel sorry for both he needed help too he completely snapped. It is very demanding for a young person to take care of a bedridden relative who is frustrated and sick. It is so sad he was all alone with this responsibility and so sad for his spouse who was suffering so much
@@Myspicyonion Henry did call for help the day before. Police ignore both Henry and Juneanne's request for help.... Police said go deal this problem with yourself.... Henry said he's had enough and threatened to kill that old lady. Are you deaf???
I live with someone who has severe chronic illness. It can be very difficult. You very quickly realize that caring for this persons will require what amounts to a near total sacrifice from what you had planned for your life because in order to ensure their needs are met, your needs and wants will always come second. Love goes a long way but it is still incredibly difficult.
When I tell you I was about to give the guy the benefit of the doubt (cuz i mean who puts a 86 yr old in that situation to care for another like that ) and then hearing that for the first time caught me so off guard. All my sympathy for him just left, how can you say that so casually???
@@Dokuja176 Dude, he's 86, he lived through a time when it was "normal" to throw around stuff like that. At his age, it's already engraved into his personality. I mean literally, when he was 40 years old, it was still pretty widespread. He was already a fully grown middle aged man when that stuff was still commonplace. If a 40 year old NOW acted that way, that's different because they grew up in a different time where it's NOT ok to act like that, but anyone over 80 who talks like that I don't take it to heart.
@@Dokuja176 in the old times, it was common for ppl to say that so he never grew up knowing how wrong it is to say that even though yeah it’s bad to say stuff like that but still
@@mvrdvrerr Oh yea no, I know that. Just the casual demeanor of it made me just do a double take is all. First time hearing about this case and this situation as a whole is pretty damn sad
The guy was 86 he couldn't care decently for that woman. The system failed her badly. The sad thing happens a lot with caregiver burnout etc. **Adult Protective Services also was to house on the same day. They couldn't force her to leave if she didn't want to go but could have offered other help **
@@SpicyKimchi- considering how much people overexaggerate, he probably just wasn't getting a full 8hrs every day, probably just 6 and wants to whine about it.
Separating the people involved in a dispute is literally the most basic first step in an officer assessment after gathering the initial context no matter if there were threats and pleas or not.
"Henry, stop this" He's an 86 YEAR OLD MAN, like god forbid he is weak and in pain due to old age??? He should never have been the sole carer of her, the police should've LISTENED, why were there not health personal/hospice workers, anyone who's experiences with taking care of the elderly present to help??....This whole situation is tragic and sad 😭
@Tybby22 the courts ruled that the purpose of police is not to serve and protect the people. The government in this country is getting more and more authoritarian
Exactly! I think anyone telling police that they "don't feel safe" should immediately make the police take this situation more seriously. Maybe take him somewhere else and have some qualified caregivers step in, even if temporarily. Nope, they just left...
@@mandapanda6233 ESPECIALLY since not only didn't she feel safe, but he made a direct death threat, to her face, in front of police, talked about his guns, and the police just shrugged it off as a joke. They must have seen how exhausted and at the end of his tether he was. At the least, they should have talked to the useless social workers on his behalf because he was in no fit state to explain to them, and they refused to speak to him when he was rude to them. That he was angry and lashing out should have made them even more concerned for Juneann's safety, and got her to a nursing home, despite her wishes. Patients wishes should be respected as much as possible, but it WASN'T possible for her to remain there and get the care she needed with only an extremely elderly man as her caregiver.
13:40 she's asking to be pulled up, she's sinking/sliding down the bed. The fact they can't see or realize what she's asking is just sad. How they speak in front of her breaks my heart.
That pos son in law on the phone should’ve caught charges for bit calling 911 when she was telling him there was a gun pointed at her head. Instead he listened for almost an hour! That’s sick.
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Why the hell is an elderly man who seems to need care himself in charge of taking care of a woman on hospice.
not sure, but it seemed like she wouldn't accept any type of help. She said specifically that Henry a was supposed to be taking care of her and even her son-in-law said that she was impatient and rude. I'm not sure if they could have forced her another type of care without her consent.
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because america doesn't care for social programs
The family should have helped. But if she was as hard to deal with as they said, they washed their hands of her . Henry snapped. So sad.
no one else was interested
You never ask a potential victim in front of the possible abuser if they feel safe. 101 cop stuff. Come on
Yeah it's like half of US police get no training other than "how to magdump 101".
Lmao tell me you know nothing about police without telling me 😂😂
He’s not an abuser he’s an old man who snapped because she was so demanding physically mentally and probably emotionally that not even 3 different nursing homes could handle keeping her and he reached his breaking point with taking care of her 24/7 while also being an elderly person needing care himself
He tried to get help before it reached that point, and they didn’t do enough and she was also refusing to go back to a home and was apparently too belligerent for 3 different homes. She was probably a horror to take care of . Her own son and law said she probably contributed to her own demise and I do not doubt that.
@@stysner4580 fun fact! Police funding goes mostly towards training!
Oh that's sweet, before she's murdered she got to hear someone else sympathize with her murderer about what a burden she is. How sweet.
ikr, best way to go I guess?? 🥰
Men
This is why she asked if they were men’s men or women’s men. She knew that the police are a toxic masculine environment and they side with perpetrators!
agreed, this is declining partners will be declining partners, its nothing to do with men or women or sociopaths, naw. Good ol salty christians is my guess.
@@pd9935every account of June Anne was that of she’s a see u next Tuesday. Women cannot take responsibility for anything. Ever. Lmao.
They did not treat her like they should have . She was treated like a joke
Well that's how they feel about homeless, disabled and the mentally ill. Never expect to be treated with dignity or respect. They're literally throwing dying people out of the hospital onto the literal street.
@@1jazzyphae were nvr surprised idk how folk r still
As a retired hospice nurse my question is where was her hospice team? Why didn’t the nurse or psych social intervene? This was preventable.
There is a team? Where?
The lady does say shes not leaving her home when the Officers mention the Social Worker is looking for a care facility for her. Maybe shes been fighting to stay in her home, and if so, why cant they facilitate visiting care?
Rural Americans don't get that.
@@karenmossbryan7932 Maybe the team tried to help. I am a hospice nurse. My hospice do 24hr crisis care, but we can not do this forever. Unless you have long term care insurance, you have e to pay out of pocket. We also will offer to place you in one of our units, to get 24 hour care. Now if you refuse to leave your home ,then there is nothing we can do. She has a right to stay in her home.
The police could have arrested him for threatening to kill her. He is a racist pos, but they thought he is old he wouldn't carry thru .I am glad we did not have one of our nurses, cna, Dr or Sw there are the time. He will get better care in prison sad 😔. It was a mess all around. He is on O2 she is bedridden of a certain size. How can she expect him to care for her? He is mean and abusive she is mouthy and needy. Meaning she is the type of person who wants you to hand them something, move this, give me that every 5min. Not a reason just saying this was a pulled Hand Grenade. Sorry.
Hospice team? My grandmother had a nurse come by once a week and left me with the rest of the responsibilities.
Whoever was in charge of leaving an 86 year old man in charge of an elderly woman with such intensive health needs, needs to be held accountable.
I was thinking the same damn thing at his age he can't take care of himself!
@@margaretcarter7242 dude was living with a portable oxygen machine thing and could barely walk outside yet was expected to take care of a hospice patient
whoever let that happen is what needs to be accounted for
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@@dharmahikes he also said he needed help, and that nobody did anything about it. Not defending what he did, but he was clearly asking for help, and probably had been for a long time
Amen you are right
I’m disgusted and upset to know this woman felt fear, and the cops ignored her. They completely disrespected and disregarded her.
Disrespected and disregarded- both of those words are so spot on. I could feel her frustration when she asked “are you a man’s man or a woman’s man?” “Aren’t you going to shake my hand?” He called her a burden right in front of her. He had no intention of helping this poor woman.
They offered to take her. They cant live there ffs. It was her choice to stay which meant she expected the man to do everything for her all day who was clearly struggling mentally. Cop couldnt of done anything. Where are her family you should be asking. Doesnt she have kids who should be there to help her during the end of her life. She clearly wasnt going to live long.
@@SlaveLikeTheRestOfUs no they didn’t offer to take her
@@pd9935they did, she refused to leave her home
@@trouty7947 no, they didn't. they said erica, the woman's social worker, was trying to find a facility for juneanne to go, but juneanne said she didn't want to go because it was her home. the police left, telling henry that erica said to call her back when he's less mad
The cop praising him for having guns and joking about it while not saving that woman from him is just awful
They didn't care I think
Average american
They had a reason for speaking with him like that. Not social conversation. They were sizing up the situation. Getting him off the defensive stand he had. But, I do think he never should have had the guns. He was unstable himself. Besides his age, he was not a nice person. Loaded guns should have been taken away from him. Not sure if the had the right at that instance.
I mean it was obvious she was scared and not being taken seriously, and the neighbors defending him and i hate when the murderers start crying about your “hurting me”, crazy you didn’t care about hurting her, this really gets me so angry 😢
@@user-xh5wx2nk1b his guns should not have been taken away from him she should have. He clearly didn't want to take care of her, he should have the right to not.
the cop calling her a burden in front of her was kinda fucked up I wont lie
They’re both at fault bro. Both old and bitter. Move on
I agree. As someone with many chronic illnesses, I have 100% felt like a burden and even tried to self-delete. Being called a burden, and knowing there is literally nothing I can do and feeling like one, would just, ugh. People need to THINK before they speak.
It just made me think of becoming old and it’s such a deep feeling. I feel for everyone that is in this position. I remember when my ex gfs grandmother was on her deathbed. We were able to come into the room one last time and say our farewells. I told her that we loved her and she smiled at me. My ex gf didn’t have much to say but I spoke for her that day.
He called the police originally asking for help, literally asking them to take her out of his care cause he couldn’t handle it and they just left him and her distraught when obviously this should have been a hospital transfer or call into hospice to come ASAP before they left.
She is a burden though, have you ever had the burden of taking care of someone like that? Its a genuine burden.
This is hard to watch. Her simple "please don't leave me" really hurts
right
That was difficult to hear. This lady was so desperate. You could tell. Oof. This is the kind of stuff that makes you terrified of growing old. Who is really going to care about you if something happens to you out of your control. Love waxes cold way too often!
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I teared up she was so scared god bless her.
But why she was stubborn and didn’t want to leave? My house, my pictures- she should take the offer and just leave 😑
her begging them not to leave and giving them tasks to keep them there longer seriously breaks my heart. the signs was soooo clear especially with henry!! i wish they took action from the first visit, may juneanne rest in peace 💔💔💔
Why is she refusing to leave?
@@karmaroundi have no clue🤷🏽♀️ im thinking maybe the house was in their names so she had the right to stay or maybe she didn’t want to leave because she knew the issue wouldn’t be solved idk
@@mikylahstvv I "see" what you mean.
no wonder the policeman didn't take his words about killing seriously. He was a tired, senile man who had enough, they talked to them and the woman said several times that she didn't want to leave the house. When she was really afraid of her partner, she would like to be taken away. Many of us sometimes get fed up and say that we will kill someone without really intending to do so. When talking to older people, you don't take their words literally, especially when someone is angry and tired (this man said he hadn't slept for 4 nights). The police are not social services, this woman should be in a nursing home and the police are not there to deal with this.
@@nemix5284 i get what your saying but still in a situation like this the police was supposed to talk to them separately & didn’t. maybe if they did this and understood the true fear she had, social services could’ve got involved more quickly. he was a tired old man that got to his end but it didn’t have to go as far as him killing her.
For the officer call this woman a burden in front of her is disgusting !
Nothing is taken seriously until there's a body.
That’s the truest thing.
That's New Mexico for ya
Fk. No doubt. You said it all.
Unfortunately, that is the sad truth in this situation. People made sure they covered their own arses while this could have been avoided. 😢
Same with personal accountability as well.
"86 yearold caretaker" Social Workers need to be held liable.
Yep. My Dad had a fall at 86 yrs and was my Mums carer. After the fall neither could look after one another anymore. We did the right thing and put them both in a Nursing Home because they both needed 24 hr care.
Ever since I was a kid, I always hoped that I would live fast and die young. Now, at 49, I still feel that I’d rather be dead than live like that. Living just to be alive is stupid to me especially at 80 something. Like what’s the point.
@@SolorockinOne My mom is 91½ bedridden in a nursing home. My dad has been gone for almost 2 years and she doesn't want to live anymore. I really hope that I don't live that long.
@@SolorockinOneget done counseling that’s not a normal feeling…
@@SolorockinOne I agree just to be alive has no meaning. I think a lot of folks later in years still find a lot of meaning in life so it’s worth it to stick around. 😊
You can clearly see how hateful he is towards her, those police completely ignored her cries for help 😭
Wtf are you talking about? Henry loved Juneanne very much. The poor man was pushed way beyond his caring capabilities but still carried on looking after her as best he could till he just couldn't anymore. The responsibility for this is entirely with society for failing to care adequately.
@@isking1715 i can understand what you are saying pretty good but thats no reason to murder her
@@thatwierdbilly Of course, there's no justifying the murder but I do believe this is a snapping situation. He must have loved her a lot because caring for someone that incapacitated is very hard.
@@isking1715 i get it he loved her but he just didnt get any pause from her whining about everything like he said she went ballistic if someone took more than 5 minutes i think it was some kind of intrusive thought he had all the time and in the end he was so angry that like you said he snapped and just did the intrusive thought i can understand him but murder is just way too much
@@thatwierdbilly We are in complete agreement my friend. This one made me really sad for both parties.
Cant believe these cops treated this like a joke.... 🤮 SICKENING!!!!
The emoji really punctuates your seriousness 😐😂😃
It is absolutely insane that she was removed from MULTIPLE care homes for her behaviour and they thought the safe option was to have an 86 yr old man be her 24/7 carer.
an 86 yr old man with a temper and multiple guns
It should’ve red flags when he said he was frustrated with him saying he has weapons..
I mean what do you want them to do? They sound useless to begin with, an old lady walking around is too much for them to deal with? Sounds like a complete, absolute, total system failure to me.
Caregiver!
You clearly have no clue about the real world outside the bubble of your coddled existence.
He said he was gonna kill her 3 times, on body camera. The cop called her a burden while talking to her husband. I feel so badly for her..she was begging them not to leave 💔
Yes, and he was hinting as well to the police too this us why he's been let off he wasn't in a fit minded to look after anyone his age to much no sleep he snapped 😳 jus5 like that man told the police he's been putting up with her big mouth abuse at that old man he can only do not enough for her eyes so demanding he should of just walked out abd told someone I can't do this anymore
“Called her a burden?” Oh come on he’s just egging the guy on at that point
That made me so angry when he called her a burden. Sickening.
This hits close to home, thanks for pointing this out so I can skip it. My heart breaks for our abused elderly.
@@JulieIelasi-lt7yp what are you talking about ? Are you defending the killer ? What’s wrong with you, she’s an old lady in hospice he should’ve reached out for help ya but that’s not an excuse to kill anyone. Yea It’s not easy but he was just a big baby about it and had a temper tantrum that led to this tragic situation
It's so sad that this happened. I'm a nurse and it's all too often you see younger professionals disregard older people's concerns... Quick to dismiss them because, "he/she is just old and being difficult."...
Wish this did not have to happen to both of them...
Uh they are being old and difficult. Sorry but facts Trump feelings. How to deal with a giant toddler requires training and better tools, both physical and mental. Unfortunately we as a society haven’t figured that out yet despite that most of us will be in that same position.
@@tribequest9 Sounds like your part of the problem to me as well. I guess you would know best what a giant toddler is, it takes one to know one.
This is a travesty. The healthcare system, social services and law enforcement failed these two seniors.
Hospice failure, first responder failure. They should have hospitalized her. He is beyond his capabilities.
That’s the American healthcare system for you. Blame the politicians who are owned by the insurance companies and their lobbies.
"You're fine until i kill you". Police proceeds to leave the scene.
The words of a man who could tell he was losing control. He was trying to warn the cops more than the woman was
@@benguensche and because those cowardly cops weren't willing or wanting to actually do anything now you got a dead crazy lady and a crazy man who snapped.
The cops should be fired for this.
They did ask if she wanted to be relocated.
For real. They failed her. They also failed alot of kids. New Mexico sucks! Child and adult care sucks in general. Smh.
@@samanthaj7840 of course not. She's ill and tired. She wanted them to take him away.
She hit it on the nose: “are you a man’s man or a woman’s man?” Cops were getting too chummy with the man. Everything she asked for, they brushed off.
They do that a lot.
IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM IS THIS POLICE FAULT. WHOEVER THIS SOCIAL WORKER IS HAS HER BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS. PERIOD.
@@joemama2455Henry told the Police “I’m gonna kill her.!” 9.56 into the video, the police laughed and said don’t say that! Maybe also check out what Henry said to the police 6.29 minutes into the video! This makes my blood boil, she was asking for help and never should have been left with Henry.
They were acting chummy in hopes he’d feel comfortable with them so they could gain information such as what kind of guns he has and how many and how trained he is in firearms. Outside of EMS reaching out to a social worker to find her other placement there prob wasn’t much that could be done. It’s a very unfortunate situation but it’s important to remember that he alone is responsible for his actions.
They always do that. And yes, they are partly to blame. When he told them "you didn't do anything to help me" it was true.
They completely ignored the situation and the obvious signs that something bad could happen
Everything went wrong here. Everything. Both Henry and his wife needed help and they were dismissed. This video perfectly illustrates how little this society values the elderly. This was a complete failure of our system. I’m heartbroken. ❤
Shit like this is why I can’t work as an EMT or a nurse anymore. The system constantly fails the people who work in it and the people it’s supposed to help.
The elderly man warned you twice to say he is going to kill her and police decided to take it lightly.
It was ridiculous. Those officers are incompetent
She was trying to get the officers to move in close to her so she could whisper to them without him hearing. They should have separated them to talk to each of them. She tried so many times. The dispatcher caught it and hopefully informed the officers of it. It was a total failure after her call.
Blows my mind how much they just waved him off. That’s not funny at all. Especially considering how he’s saying he’s fed up and tired/can’t handle this. So horrible. They both needed help and these officers failed.
I absolutely hate when people baby-talk to elderly people and take everything they say as a joke, like it's funny to threaten murder. Like, that's a fully grown adult, not a five-year-old.
@@SaintShion fr, that should be an insta red flag that he blatantly threatened killing her MULTIPLE times. I mean you can clearly see how pissed off this dude is from having to care for her 24/7. And from this encounter it probably seemed like nothing would really change for him. I know it’s easier to say this shit when you aren’t the one in the situation, but I feel like the officers could’ve read this a little better. The context surrounding his “joking” threats is a serious and angry man who is fed up with the person he’s supposed to care for. Definitely should imply that his threats should be taken pretty seriously.
The fact that he said he was gonna kill he numerous times IN FRONT OF THEM and they didn’t do SHIT is CRAZYYYYYY.
I guess you just have to be old and decrepit to get away with shit like that. Not to mention they RELEASED the dude after charging him with murder. I didn’t realize being old is a get outta jail free card. Literally and figuratively lol
what are they supposed to do. people make viel threats all the time. it doesn't reach the level of a crime. they can't arrest him and they can't force her to leave. it's an impossible situation. she wasn't scarred enough to want to leave and he wasn't violent enough to arrest. the police can only do so much.
Not really.
He was laughing when he said it. Myself in that situation would not of believed him either
If you’re in front of a police officer, and you’re annoyed with your friend and you jokingly say you’re gonna kill them, do you want them to arrest you or smth?
they disregarded every word she said. They treated the old man like he was a war hero. The stupidity of these cops are second to none.
They didn’t. It’s a technique to gain information. They’re in their home, they can hardly start shouting at him for the words he says. I totally agree this is a case that need picking apart and learning from and I feel incredibly sorry for the lady.
He definitely got the good Ole boy treatment from the cops.
@@claire3337 we are also looking at this hindsight. So viewing from the video only.
I cannot believe they left that poor man alone, on oxygen, who was begging for help, alone with her. He threatened to end her life on purpose to get help. I think, the comment about the social worker not wanting to talk to him is what did it.
"Everyone wants to talk about something but nobody does anything" Is the realest thing ive heard in the longest time
I hear it all the time. Worked in social services for years with folks with different abilities and mental health concerns. The things some of my folks lived through are just unreal. I'm appalled they left after he straight up told them he would kill her and she begged them not to go, I'm unfortunately not surprised though. I get they have a job and can't just hang out but it's just not ok not in anyway
Reminds me of all the keyboard warriors on social media.
Not saying you specifically but the same people saying that are the same ones doing it
@@sarahbeaulieu999 I just watched a video of a cop breaking into a man's house and shooting him dead after telling him " this is our town" they do what they want because they are a bunch of thugs protected by qualified immunity
Amen 🙏
The fact she said “he has threatened to do that” and they brush it off. That was insane. They need to be laid off as police officers
Fr that shit pissed me off
Okay captain hindsight.
No, they had dealt with this couple a hundred times. And he was joking at the time elderly people often have mental degradation. It's not the cops fault it's more the family's fault for now helping out more.
God bless you! Jesus saves sinners!!!
Most of the time women aren’t listened to, especially old women. The cops identified and listened to the man from the start, much like mechanics, realtors, doctors and well, cops. It’s nothing new and is slowly changing. But these cops were only concerned about the man in this situation, not the victim literally begging for help
I've had a coworker accidentally dial 911 and 911 called them back just to check if they were okay. But when they're on call with an 80+ year old hospice patient that clearly is verbalizing they feel unsafe and they just let the call drop???? Are you serious right now????
I think that's the least fucked up thing about this whole incident
@@nutcase1995 Yes, but it it also highlights negligence at every corner of the situation.
When she said “are you going to come back and check.” You could hear the fear and anxiety in her voice, my heart broke 💔💔
saying thaat she's a burden RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER is honestly so disgustingly unprofessional
For real. And how is that dude older than her and drunk supposed to be caring for her?
I could see how she looked at the cop when he said that. Heartbreaking.
But of course, you know that cop is not going to receive additional training or anything of that sort for having made that comment
Unfortunately the kind of social understanding your comment is implying, isnt automatically present in every person, and police are just random people. I agree with you, I wouldnt have said that either personally, seems pretttty distasteful and socially tonedeaf to use the word burden when shes on BEDREST yeah im sure its a burden for her as well to be stuck in a bed lol, we gotta remember that officers might be the kinds of people, we personally dont like. lol But they are still officers, maybe someone can help educate this guy on being more subtle as not to be a rude ass to people lol :P
Came here to say this, wtf.... She is there! She is not furniture! That was infuriating.
The neglect of our elderly in this country is horrible.
Nothing compared to south korea, go look at the suicide rates
This sadly happens in all countries.
Capitalism.
Not all countries our country children take care of their parents or grandparents@@shivalishankersharma1562
@@NoahsGameCave lol yea totally. those communist healthcare systems are untouchable! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was so disturbing to watch.. I’m a CNA and I feel that my job is so much more full of purpose after watching this…
You are an angel
You're indispensable......
The fact she refused to get actual help and wanted to continue to use him against his will, this was the outcome she wove.
Then he should have left
@@Decades-pl2kl His home? wtf?
Henry: "I'm gonna kill her."
Officers: "OK. Just give us a call."
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@migomigo2595 i haven't seen such incompetence since the year thirteen twelve.
@@jesipohl6717 LMFAOOOO
These officers don't understand that a 86yr old person does not have same level of patience or energy to bear with things.
Also old people have increased faith in God so Henry mentally cannot bear a "Sin" of murder in his list to make it to heaven
@@truck.-kun. if they even become officers it means they passed a state approved test that proved they have already dehumanized everyone thats not a rich european loyalist...
I'm a hospice nurse. This is more common than you think. Taking care of another sick and dying human is VERY stressful and exhausting. He may have called 911 because the hospice agency wasn't finding placement for her fast enough and he snapped. The whole system failed both of them.
Well put
I cared for my elderly mother and it’s extremely stressful.
I was the only one that stepped up in my family. How could you desert someone that bore and raised you like a princess. 💔
Agreed
My gosh. You're so right. Nobody cares. People need to be checked regularly and placed in better places. Horrible. Society is so I acknowledging.
She had been in several different places and she was too demanding and that's why she was at home on hospice care. He said this when the first officer in the morning was talking to him.
Henry, seems to be the only one thinking straight. For all you people on Medicare or Medicaid and for all you pay for that every month, your in for a rude awakening if you think there's going to be any help like what was needed here. Good luck to all of us.
The racial slurs don’t even phase the officers, and they still speak to him in high regard. Everything about this sucks
These same cops probably kneeled during BLM riots
That was so low and the cops did nothing
Freedom of speech, he's in his own house ffs. They're not trying to be buddies with him, they just don't want to escalate
@@basedmod2139 Dena thinks cops are liberal enforcement agents
This is why some of you would be terrible police officers. No nuance or understanding of context or descalation.
Rule #1: SEPARATE THE PARTIES AND THEN ASK QUESTIONS!!
AMEN
Common sense right!?!
FOR REAL
Ikr
I know right?!? I was thinking the same!
Both HE and SHE told the officers what might happen. They BOTH asked for help. He couldn’t take her anymore making that clear and she didn’t want them to leave . How ironic they were talking about guns. MIND BLOWING
They did not take either him nor her seriously. How can you not feel at ease after this visit. I’m not even in law enforcement. Any person with a brain and a conscience would never have left that house. I have learned to go with your 1st mind.
You’re right. Rip June 😢 Henry is not god only god could’ve taken junes life away. God bless these two lost souls
Cops are borderline worthless at this point
You did not have to say mind blowing LOL
right! the cops should have stayed there and become hospice nurses.
I worked in Hospice Care,It’s so physically, Mentally and EMOTIONALLY exhausting. To watch someone slowly lose their light and everything that makes them, them! Making sure that they were comfortable and safe during this time, It kept me going. My first client passed and I was devastated! The impact he made throughout his life was amazing and thankfully that will live on.
❤❤❤
This is the definition of "It's not my job" 😢
I was a CNA for 15 years. Carer burn out is so real. Who ever thought to leave an 86 year old man with health issues needs a new job. They were BOTH asking for help! How could they not realize that?
Exactly
It’s tricky because she still had the capacity to make an informed decision for herself. She didn’t want to leave her home. Forcing her from her home would be kidnapping. People are allowed to make bad choices. However, having said all that, the repeated threats he made of killing her, whether or not perceived as a joke, should have initiated immediate action. First, you speak to them alone. Then you separate them and work towards getting her increased home care.
People that can't help themselves and others seeing them as a just burden is absolutely a crime against humanity
Amen!
@@rachelreeb695 well if she wouldve had the decency to respect the only person left willing to take care of her this never wouldve happened, she made herself a an even worse burden than her disability with her mouth and rudness, not even her own son in law sounds like he cares that he jsut heard he get shot and killed over the phone, most people would be in shambles. i dont understand how someone who cant live without the help of others becomes rude to their caretaker, i would feel horrible to even have someone forced to wipe my ass left alone deal with constant hate bombardment at the age of 86. also trying to act like disabilities arent burdens is some next level stupid, you make situations worse when you try to ignore the elephant in the room, people who are disabled know how much of burden they can be, which is why kindness to the ones helping you out of their own good will is a must
It’s strange to me that an elderly person with health problems would be left to care for another elderly person with health problems. Why were they left to fend for themselves?
Because the system is broken and because the majority of society doesn't value, or even like, the elderly.
Unless you have family with pretty deep pockets you're screwed
Most people would rather die at home with their family than in a home with strangers.
No one cares. No money.
Because it's the United States
The worry he has for his dog made me well up. I work in elderly nursing care and it’s 24 hours. She needed a deprivation of Liberty in place to ensure she remained in full time care . Very sad state of affairs.
Cop: "I like folks that have guns, cause I have guns." Sheesh.
Them talking about guns and her BEGGING for them to not leave her is absolutely disheartening
Yeah that was crazy! The guy was obviously passive aggressive in some way talking about “you’re fine until I kill you” wtf?
@@Str8Gass exactly while staring at her
Well she's also saying that she doesn't want to leave. She can't have it both ways.
@@erbodyluvschocexactly. From what it sounds like she was very demanding and picky. He was an old man himself. He shouldn't have ever been forced to care for her on his own. It's no excuse to kill her but she should've had professional care or been taken to a nursing home or something. I don't condone him killing her, but i feel bad for what he had to go through in day to day life while he was just trying to survive the end of his life himself. Their family, and public services failed them both. It could have been prevented. He could have found a better way to say "leave me the F alone" though.
It's ironic because the only conservatives I've met who are passionately for gun control are cops. Because they see what guns do every day. Clearly this guy wasn't one of them.
He was “joking” about killing her too many times for the police to just leave like that smh
once? lol
@@NotYomama13 Definitely said it more than 1x
But if she knew it's not a joke, why did she refused to be taken away from there? Why would she insist staying with a man she thinks is going to kill her?
....and arrest him for what? There is no prosecutor anywhere that would have taken a case, under those circumstances. My wife has been saying shes going to kill me for decades😂
@@BlueSkyUp_EU She said it in the video. It was her home too. Everything she had and owned was there. She didn't want to be forced to leave when she felt she had a right to be there. I would think that's a feeling we all could understand. She also may not have fully believed he would go through with it. She said he had threatened her life repeatedly before, but since she was still alive at the time, she may not have fully believed he would this time. Unfortunately, he actually followed up on his words. Personally, when someone feels confident enough to "joke" with the cops/EMS about killing someone, they are most likely no longer joking and it's time to take the situation _very_ seriously.
If anything this video just shows how incomplete police training is and how incompetent they can be.
When cops 👮♂️ are pulling over people who are telling them their constitutional rights and they're standing there looking clueless is a scary thing.
He threatened to kill her twice in front of the police. then they left and he did. Those officers need some extra training
Right it’s missing ✨mental health crisis✨
He flat out said he was going to kill her in front of police so why in the hell did you not separate them? Shame on those first guys!!!!
Twice! Two separate times and then even clarified what he said the second time. So did she.
Again, he was smiling and laughing it off. And by saying it the second time, could also be a sign okay...it's a joke. Cops aren't fortune tellers.
@@nikkithruthelookingglass183 he said it more then that in relations to doing so and the lady not being on the same terms he was on at all times she was talking during the video was clear sign something was wrong. I mean even saying "guns are ready to go" was weird in it self but the cop didn't take it as anything since he liked guns himself so he decided to make his relation to it.
I think he said that pretty glibly. I don’t think the Officers even really heard it clearly. Henry was quite clearly at the end of his tether and as a result he flipped and the gun just happened to be there and loaded. It’s a sad case all round
he said that twice along with her saying “please dont leave me” as well. this is on the cops
I worked in Geriatric and Palliative care for over 20yrs. This was preventable. The system failed them both.
CMS affords hospice patients and their families something known as “reprieve” where you can admit the hospice patient into the hospital for a week or longer so the family can get time to rest. The problem here is the hospice patient is still alert and oriented enough, she’s refusing to go elsewhere. You can’t force her to leave.
@@michaelscott33 some states and areas dont do or have reprieve programs.
@@michaelscott33 Must cost a fortune if it isn't mostly covered by insurance, yeah?
@@michaelscott33 The social worker can indeed make the necessary phone calls to have her admitted, against her wishes, into a care facility. She failed at her job, miserably. My grandmother was on hospice at home and was an absolute nightmare to deal with. Thankfully we all took turns staying with her and my grandfather so he didn’t have to care for her alone. After a month, we had all had enough and had her placed in a lovely hospice care facility where she was well cared for and died peacefully. I hate to think of the toll it would have taken on my grandfather had we not been there 24/7.
@@michaelscott33respite care has a loooong waitlist. My dad was on hospice last year before he died. Hospice isn’t like it once was. It has cut back on how hands on they are now.
I hope these cops never forget abandoning a sick old lady.
What should they have done? Forcibly removed her from the home or forcibly removed the man from the home? If they did the latter, who would have cared for the woman?
@@olilumgbalu5653 Are you a cop? You clearly have no clue.
@@olilumgbalu5653 he threatened to kill her infront of the cop and his wife was severely distressed by this he could have questioned them individually and i think the wife would have asked to go with the cop
Multiple care homes and she doesn’t want to go into any other 24hr care facility but preferred to burden an 86yo frail man? 4 consecutive sleepless nights, he was on his last nerve! I wish he’d just called the cops and walked away for days instead of committing a crime.
As a doctor, this was preventable. Where was her hospice team? Who signed off on him being her caregiver. We KNOW how hard it is to be a young, healthy caregiver. Let alone be someone who needs care themself.
where you then? you got blood on your hands again.
@@HappyYummmy What?
@@HappyYummmy why are you trying to pick a fight with this random person?
Absolutely! Also, the stress and frustration from the burden cause stress hormone cortisol to be constantly present in the body, which can eventually alter the brain. The law doesn't consider the possibility that some health conditions can cause mental issues where, if medically corrected, it could turn them into a completely different person.
@@HappyYummmy Can you try to put a sentence together? At least one that makes a bit of sense.
That initial visit was such an obvious cry for help from both of them. They both had been pushed to their limits and were actively ignored by everyone. The fact that something so preventable happened at all is disgusting.
But neither is accepting help.
They refused help. She didn't want to leave.
@@amandahutton8459 and the victim blaming with no actual understanding of the situation starts
@@liddytheweeb I'm not victim blaming. Ever hear the saying "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it?" How many times did the officer suggest help and she flat out refused. Would you like the officer to drag her out of her house?
@liddytheweeb not victim blaming, neither of them accepted the help offered. Even on hospice, people are still cognitive of what is going on. If he couldn't have taken care of her, she needed to go to a hospice center. He needs to go for detox. It's twofold. They tried, but she didn't want to go, two tired elderly people. The cops can't force someone to leave, frustrations boil over and he went to far again while drunk.
Makes you wonder how many elderly people dealt with this during the pandemic. So heartbreaking 💔
My old buddy Mike couldn’t get any help. It was clear that he was dying and that he was completely alone. I went and took care of him in the morning and evening, preparing something to eat until I got back. He wasn’t stuck in a bed, but he couldn’t move around very long.
He was mean as a snake and very demanding, but the right person could get him to respond.
Had he went downhill in 2019 I believe he would have pulled through. Instead he ended up dying in a hospital with no visitors allowed in April of 2020. It was bad luck that he went down when the world was at the height of the panic. I’d say a lot of people died from conditions that couldn’t be treated at that time, but could have been easily treated in a normal time.
The last thing I got from him was a message he didn’t mean to send. He pushed speech to text on his phone and I got the conversation between him and the doctor. Not all of it made sense, but some did. “Do you live alone?” “Yeah just me and my dog.” “Do you have any family?” “Yeah but they live hundreds of miles away and don’t talk to me. I got a friend who comes and takes care of me. Other than that, just my dog.”
I got a call the next morning. All they’d tell me was that he was not ok and they wanted me to get in touch with a family member.
As an EMT and a caretaker of a geriatric family member myself. I can empathize with both sides. A lot of resentment builds up when it feels like my life isn’t my own and my existence is to serve anyone else but also feeling guilt and shame about setting boundaries or saying “enough is enough” because the other person doesn’t have any help and bills need to be paid and they are relying on you. I’ve learned the best way out is to ask for help (psychiatric, psychological, social, support groups) and other caretaker/home health aids and other family members. I’m 28 but I feel like I should have my own life but don’t know how. Being useful to someone else is all I know and put my worth in.
The amount of time he mentioned killing her, and was met with chuckles… this is so sad.
Because “defenders” I guess
She didn’t even take him seriously.
“I’m not going anywhere!” are not the words of someone who is afraid the person they live with will kill them. She was maybe afraid that he would be mean, or ignore her, but she was NOT scared for her safety. She would have been willing to be taken elsewhere if she was genuinely afraid
The man was begging the police to take her away and the original call “he made” was so that she could be safe, he even said take her or stay there with him, they refused to listen to him, if it wasn’t Agun , it would’ve been Aknife. He tried to get help but in his words, “wonderful, everybody talks, but no one actually does anything.” This is not a situation where it’s one person’s issue of handling it was everyone. if you listen to the things, he saying this wasn’t the first time he’s called to try to get her to leave and she’s obviously either been kicked out of nursing homes or walked out against medical advice.
"Oh he's just joking, nagging about the old ball and chain"... Probably what they thought. And I might've thought the same if it wasn't for all the other obvious signs. It really baffles me how nothing was done here.
@@Callidus7SSM That's not true at all. She's living with an abusive partner, first of all, the psychology of that alone is more complicated. And to add to that, plenty of elderly people simply shuffle off the mortal coil rather than enter nursing homes (more common in men than women, but happens to both)--sometimes they've lived 30+ years with next to no change to their lives and change is genuinely more scary than the alternative
There's a reason many people eventually get taken in against their will, especially at her age
“Please don’t leave” broke my heart
She got what she wanted she seemed annoying clearly can see that when the cops was there asking for so much stuff
She still didn’t deserve that..😭 wtf
@@madelinegarcia2736 Yeah wtf put this nolimittfredp24 dude on watch list too while you're at it. some fuked up thought processes
@Nolimitfredo24 She got what she wanted? What a kind, compassionate person you must be. It must be an absolute delight to be around you.
@@tinaarko6625 She obviously didn't want to die, but she refused to leave the house and go into hospice care where she needed to be. She had every opportunity to leave that house and be safe if she felt she was in danger. But she selfishly wanted to put the burden of care onto Henry who wasn't equipped to deal with that. He shouldn't have done what he did but he was obviously tipped to the boiling point of his capacity to handle it anymore. Apparently she had been kicked out of homes because she was so hard to deal with.
The one cop was literally admiring Henry for having guns after he threatened to kill her at least once. Then he leaves?? The cop even noticed a gun in the corner. Pathetic. Cops totally dropped the ball on this one.
Cop says ‘you are a firearms guy! Nice!’ Too chummy with the guy and just ignoring the woman who called for help
“Are you a man’s man or a woman’s man?” She knew that they weren’t taking her seriously about her not feeling safe …. RIP 🙏
This, for real!
Seriously
what that mean
Man I feel sorry for the guy that woman seemed like she wanted everything done right away
@@meetdamaka She was a bully
the guy litterally called for police to avoid what he was going to do, told them to his face what he was gonna do and they didnt do shit abou it
ppl in the comments are saying that they couldn’t have done anything, they could have removed him from the residence. they could have asked them about details, asked each of them about what was occurring, but they didnt.
Adult Protective Services was also at the house the same day
@@rixmagi Thats what happens when cops get a few hundred hours of training. There's a reason you rarely if ever see that happen in other first world countries.
The female called police
@@shimmer8289 the elderly man had called too.
Those officers must suffer with guilt every day. Knowing they could've stopped this
This police department seems like they don’t take anything seriously 😒
i cant even fathom the distress that poor woman probably felt while talking to the cops
She wasn't distressed enough to agree to let the cops take her out of the house .
The 86 year old care giver wanted her out. He should've said something.
@@AndyD4730why should she leave her own house? He had POA, so he could have sold the house from under her.
Perhaps she should have been more straightforward in communicating that.
I understand being secretive on the phone...but they are there...now.
@@Pinki_315he did. She did. What are they going to do at a moment's notice? It happened same day.
If she's on hospice, where is the hospice nurse?
My thoughts too… I am a nurse, and I am trying to figure out what nurse is coming into her home to do the assessments that they do on a weekly basis and not see that this is a very unsafe situation, and begin the process of removal of her in that home to someplace safe? I feel like whatever hospice this is, should be pursued in a lawsuit and whatever nurse this is, should also be pursued in a civil case.
He's getting paid through the state to be her caregiver.
maybe the boy is the hospice nurse
Home hospice usually shows up 1-2 times per week depending on insurance and costs. Be realistic.
@@whosaidthat9265 no, hospice is FREE when u qualify
I think this is the hardest video I've ever had to watch from you guys. I'm not even half way through, and I'm fighting back tears. I don't think I can finish this video to find out how this was carried out
Hope I never get to that point where someone has to take care of me. Would rather die in my sleep while fully functional.
She’s been in nursing homes and got kicked out because she gets mean. He’s OLD worn out and in bad shape himself. He shouldn’t be expected to wait on her or take care of her in his condition, yet he is. The EMS should’ve transported her to the hospital till adult protective services placed her. She’s refusing to go to a safe place herself. What a sad vicious cycle. Both old people are sick and need help. His drinking is about the worst thing he could’ve done.
I’ve personally SEEN this happen to some people in my life. It’s a no win, never will get better situation. Our society and system doesn’t look after the elderly.
This! People in the comment section are basing their reaction off of what happened in the latter part of the video but the first part was very telling. You are spot on. Hospitalization would’ve been the best option to separate them for a short time. Giving both of them a break from each other. This story is truly heartbreaking. Prayers and peace to everyone involved 😔
She should've been taken out of there. What a sad, horrible situation.
No one should be put to death like this woman was. She might of been demanding and set in her ways, but NOT sentenced to death over it.
This, exactly!
@@gabrielwatson7721 no one said that. We are saying there should have been more help before it got to this.
She asked for a card and the officer had the nerve to act like he was irritated. As a young man who’s paralyzed and has a caretaker myself this is extremely concerning to me these officers didn’t care about her at all. Also shame on her social worker, this man was on oxygen and had no business having to take care of her all alone.
I hope you always get the respect an care you need honey. ❤god bless you
She refused to go into a home and was kicked out of 3 of them already
@@zackshafto3040 they can always have nurses to come out and help
@@jj-ix9vb they clearly got in contact with her healthcare workers it’s why she was offered into a home and refused what more can they do
You only hear what you want to hear. They offered help, but she didn't want to take the help. Didn't you listen what the last guy had to say. Just because someone is disabled or sick it doesn't mean that the world revolves around them.
Kids, visit your grandparents. They might really need your company. 😥
She could have gotten a bed sore from the pad not being flat underneath her. She’s literally just asking for what she needs…
They left her there to die. I’m in tears.
You wouldn't have been if you'd met her.
This is absolutely infuriating
Agreed 1000%
I agree more should have been done. But I don't blame these officers either. They can only do so much. Hindsight is 20/20 but in the moment most of these things can like bad jokes, and a couple having arguments. But yes they should have taken her more serious when she started to scream for help.
I don't blame the officers but they certainly could have done a better job of speaking to her on her own... Although I'm not sure what would have come from that unless she had clear information of threats from him and was willing to be taken out the house.
You can't blame her for not wanting to leave home but it's also unfair to expect to stay home despite not being in good health and her husband not being in good health.
Should they have removed her from home against her will? I'm not sure but it's quite challenging and seems like only so much they can do. It would be interesting to k ow how much social worker was involved but again can they remove her against her will if she doesn't want to leave?
Eeeek, I'm only at the point where the officers are leaving
@@cdouglas8393 Yeah I agree. How social workers or even medical centers allowed or considered that leaving a 82 year old on hospice in the hands of an 86 year old who needs an oxygen tank to get around was an acceptable condition is honestly what pisses me off the most. That's not even taking into account that there might be more going on with this man than we know. His confusion and anger might be symptoms of something we can't see because we're only getting a view from the body cam of the officers. I've seen what dementia can do to a person first hand and this is very similar to my own experiences. Not exactly the same but very close.
Blame the cops. He said he was going to kill her. That's nothing to take lightly. They didn't do their job.
Sole carer burn-out is VERY real and can have tragic results if not taken seriously. The pair should have been separated and home care professionals bought in to assist in caring for June until an appropriate facility could be located for her.
This is so accurate. It is exhausting to care for a person with severe illness. To do it alone is almost impossible to imagine! This was elder abuse X 2!
Yeah thats hard, it definately gets to a point where even though she doesnt WANT to go, she needs to for her own health. Thats a really hard one to sort out for social workers im sure.
Exactly.
I was my moms caregiver for many months. I have systemic lupus and MS it was the hardest thing I ever did. My dad was a disabled vet so couldn't help. He made too much for free Medicare caregiver but not enough to afford one. Caregivers are $60-$150/hour. Way too much for most even middle class to afford. I was her only caregiver. But I made sure she was well cared for. The last few weeks my body gave out but thankfully my brother came from out of state to help. I would have never let my mom suffer. I can definitely understand why she needed help. No way could he do this on his own. Wish Medicare could offer free caregivers. Even if only part time. Even just enough to let the main caregiver rest. My mom passed last august. Miss her so much. My health is really bad now. It took everything I had to care for her. Hardest job in the world. I had also had a severe car wreck so many month before. Broke all ribs on my left side, compression spinal fracture, lower spine fracture, internal bleeding, and others. When I cared for my mom I was wearing my back brace but it really messed up my compression fracture. Everyone needs to prepare for their end of life. Please put money to the side or you'll be left without help or in this situation.
That doesn't give you the right to kill someone!!
Would you say this if it was a mother tired of her kids??
Carer’s syndrome. Sleep deprivation. 86 years old. We need to look after our elderly folks better. So sorry to all involved but we need to do better for the older folks.
these cops have terrible judgement this is ridiculous
Why are these cops so instantly in love with this guy and so dismissive of a desperate immobile elderly woman?
Most male cops are abusive towards women. Statistics stated over 40% are abusive
She seemed unpleasant
She had a history of belligerent behavior. This also wasn't the first encounter they had with them.
Like she asked, Are you Macho?
the one cop said "I like guns too", they recognised themselves in this murderer.
Imagine having the killer says ''im gonna kill her'' TWO TIMES . IN FRONT OF THE COPSSSS. And just having the cops say ''yeah, I love people with guns cuz i have guns''. Holy shit I fucking can't.
You've never been around old people much other than your grandparents. In nursing homes you hear this kind of talk all day every day. 99% of the time it's cynical banter
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Unfortunately I have dealt with this, and it's apparent you do not understand the dynamics here. 😢
typical America 🔫🔫☠💀
The fact that she was begging the cops not to leave that broke my heart😢
“I like folks who have guns”. Coming from a cop that’s a pretty stupid statement.
This whole situation is ridiculous. You've got an 86-year-old trying to be a 24/7 caretaker for a completely disabled old woman, a task that would be difficult for someone half his age, and the cops just abandon both of them with no follow-up.
Exactly.
I agree.They were abandoned.
Agreed i was 15 to 17 taking care of my great grandma along side of my grandma, 22 to 26 caring for my grandpa along side of my grandma. It was very hard but there was 2 of us. We got breaks when we needed to. This is nuts.
God bless you!!! Jesus saves sinners!!!
Henry clearly suffered a mental break from all the pressure he was put under. It’s too much for a man of his age to be in charge of someone else’s care, let alone by himself. They needed help, both of them. This is so sad.
Yes I feel sorry for both he needed help too he completely snapped. It is very demanding for a young person to take care of a bedridden relative who is frustrated and sick. It is so sad he was all alone with this responsibility and so sad for his spouse who was suffering so much
@@janoraj4667he's a murderer he could have called cops and said I'm done take her anything else
@@Myspicyonion that's what he did
@@Myspicyonion Henry did call for help the day before. Police ignore both Henry and Juneanne's request for help.... Police said go deal this problem with yourself.... Henry said he's had enough and threatened to kill that old lady. Are you deaf???
Yeah but he also already had some aggression in him. You can tell with the weird gun talk.
I’m a private care aide and this is so sad 😢 poor lady 😩
I live with someone who has severe chronic illness. It can be very difficult. You very quickly realize that caring for this persons will require what amounts to a near total sacrifice from what you had planned for your life because in order to ensure their needs are met, your needs and wants will always come second. Love goes a long way but it is still incredibly difficult.
Him saying “n-boy” was enough to show his character.
When I tell you I was about to give the guy the benefit of the doubt (cuz i mean who puts a 86 yr old in that situation to care for another like that ) and then hearing that for the first time caught me so off guard. All my sympathy for him just left, how can you say that so casually???
@@Dokuja176 Dude, he's 86, he lived through a time when it was "normal" to throw around stuff like that. At his age, it's already engraved into his personality. I mean literally, when he was 40 years old, it was still pretty widespread. He was already a fully grown middle aged man when that stuff was still commonplace. If a 40 year old NOW acted that way, that's different because they grew up in a different time where it's NOT ok to act like that, but anyone over 80 who talks like that I don't take it to heart.
@@johnnyboy13642 the only thing that says is he’s been a piece of crap all 80 years of his life. It was never ok to act like that.
@@Dokuja176 in the old times, it was common for ppl to say that so he never grew up knowing how wrong it is to say that even though yeah it’s bad to say stuff like that but still
@@mvrdvrerr Oh yea no, I know that. Just the casual demeanor of it made me just do a double take is all.
First time hearing about this case and this situation as a whole is pretty damn sad
The guy was 86 he couldn't care decently for that woman. The system failed her badly. The sad thing happens a lot with caregiver burnout etc.
**Adult Protective Services also was to house on the same day. They couldn't force her to leave if she didn't want to go but could have offered other help **
He didn’t have burnout. He’s obviously an old leech who was living off of her. That was HER house.
He said he hadn’t slept for days. That is very dangerous.
She only had a few days left anywhoo
@@chrishart-williams6432 Not according to records. He was put on house arrest at that house.
@@SpicyKimchi- considering how much people overexaggerate, he probably just wasn't getting a full 8hrs every day, probably just 6 and wants to whine about it.
Separating the people involved in a dispute is literally the most basic first step in an officer assessment after gathering the initial context no matter if there were threats and pleas or not.
"Henry, stop this" He's an 86 YEAR OLD MAN, like god forbid he is weak and in pain due to old age??? He should never have been the sole carer of her, the police should've LISTENED, why were there not health personal/hospice workers, anyone who's experiences with taking care of the elderly present to help??....This whole situation is tragic and sad 😭
“A huge responsibility and a huge burden” the way the cop says it and the way she looks at him is so sad.
Coming from the person that was supposed serve and protect her smh. He says this while she’s begging for help how disgusting.
Yeah, he really shouldn't have said that in front of her
That part broke my heart! Saying that infront of her like she’s invisible 😭💔
And saying it to her own husband who she most likely spent her whole life taking care of until she was on her deathbed
@Tybby22 the courts ruled that the purpose of police is not to serve and protect the people. The government in this country is getting more and more authoritarian
Why were they not interviewed separately? Especially since she was saying she doesn't feel safe. Common sense!
new mexico has the worst police in the united states
Exactly! I think anyone telling police that they "don't feel safe" should immediately make the police take this situation more seriously. Maybe take him somewhere else and have some qualified caregivers step in, even if temporarily. Nope, they just left...
Because joking about hurting or killing your wife is commonplace is "boys will be boys" type circles.
@GlassWindowGames this is embarrassing and a disgraceful bunch
@@mandapanda6233 ESPECIALLY since not only didn't she feel safe, but he made a direct death threat, to her face, in front of police, talked about his guns, and the police just shrugged it off as a joke. They must have seen how exhausted and at the end of his tether he was. At the least, they should have talked to the useless social workers on his behalf because he was in no fit state to explain to them, and they refused to speak to him when he was rude to them. That he was angry and lashing out should have made them even more concerned for Juneann's safety, and got her to a nursing home, despite her wishes. Patients wishes should be respected as much as possible, but it WASN'T possible for her to remain there and get the care she needed with only an extremely elderly man as her caregiver.
So, what I’m hearing is….if you’re under enough stress, you can just murder someone?
Absolutely disgraceful.
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Old couples joke with each other in sick ways but he said he was going to kill her more than once.
Her "please don't leave" broke my heart. She also reminds me of my mom when she was dying of pancreatic cancer.
your mom had an acid tongue? lol
God bless you! Jesus saves sinners!!!
@@fatalfoamsis that supposed to be disrespectful,if it is it is not funny and it should have toiled u to be civil
@@fatalfoamsgo be disrespectful elsewhere.
You shouldn't relate those two... this woman definitely aided in what happened
13:40 she's asking to be pulled up, she's sinking/sliding down the bed. The fact they can't see or realize what she's asking is just sad. How they speak in front of her breaks my heart.
It’s so hurtful seeing them disregard and disrespect her completely, they were acting as if she wasn’t even human
They wouldn’t even call her by her name but kept calling the guy by his :/
@@Spijen the fact they called her a burden too
So common.
Those cops should hand in there badges.
That pos son in law on the phone should’ve caught charges for bit calling 911 when she was telling him there was a gun pointed at her head. Instead he listened for almost an hour! That’s sick.