Question: why doesn't MicroSoft have versioning like Google Sheets/Docs have? If I make a mistake on Sheets for example, I can go back to previous version easily.
Crikey, Leo, you always offer a mountain of good sense and solutions to problems that people don't think they have- until they have problems. Again, another day, another thing learnt. I thought I had One Drive cracked, but not in any way, it is much more complicated than the average person can deal with, without tuition- like this. This is the best 15 minutes I have spent today. Thank you.
Hi Leo, thank you for yet another brilliant video. You provide information in such a clear and well thought out way. I am learning even when I thought I knew the subject. Keep up this excellent service.
Thank You Leo, so glad I saw your video. Although it did help alot, I have a long way to go with saving my files. When I save a photo or a document ( am doing a lot of Ancestry saving) Sometimes I can never find the article or photo again. So frustrating. I even subscribe to Microsoft account annually in hopes I won't lose my stuff but I don't know how to use it. I will keep studying your videos!!
Thank you Leo . From 2021 I am searching for the green tick that comes on folder from one drive . Now I satisfied by this video u explain . Great job man . 👍
@0:40 -- If I understand what our host explained, there is a potential problem. If, for example, you have 3 devices, all set up to automatically sync, then if you screw up a file one of those 3 devices, then your screw-up gets copied to your other 2 devices. Whereas, if you were to not set automatic syncing on one of your 3 devices, then you would recover your file from the device that did not get synced. I suggest that if you can count on yourself to periodically manually sync your files, then that will give you finer control over the safekeeping of your files. But if you know yourself, and you know that you will not bother to periodically manually sync your files, then set the automatic syncing. Putting 100% on autopilot is giving up a level of control. But autopilot is good for some people -- until they accidentally mangle some file and kick themselves for having that mangled file overwrite the good copies on their other devices. Lastly, when you use cloud storage, you are using someone else's computer (complete strangers). You are handing your files to complete strangers, in the clear. Yes, your files get encrypted in transport to the strangers. But they get decrypted upon arrival at the stranger's computer. Microsoft, Google, and any other cloud storage service can see everything that you put on their computers. They are not likely looking (unless you are a noteworthy person -- a celebrity, or government official, or someone making headlines, etc). But it is likely that they scan everything, and who knows what type of index or profile they build on you. If you have trade secrets, or anything that can ruin your life, you would be nuts to hand those files over to them. If you encrypt your files, before they get uploaded to a cloud service, then you are protecting yourself. But if you upload your company's trade secrets, without first encrypting them, you are reckless. Cloud storage services require you to agree to contracts written 100% by their attorneys, to serve their interests, that you are required to agree with, which turns ownership of your files to them. In other words, any files that you put on their servers are now owned by them. If you do not need the convince of syncing files between devices, then just make copies of your important files, and manually put them on your other devices, as needed. But if you care zero about sharing your files with anonymous people, then cloud services are a great option.
That’s exactly how it works, by design. OneDrive is not a backup, it’s a syncing system that people often mistake for a backup. But if you have a PC connected to OneDrive you can set an automated backup (let’s say that runs once a day at 12:00 midnight). So if you accidentally deleted a file from OneDrive you could have a backup that contains that from the prior day at midnight.
@@riffdex In an emergency, you could also start up one of the remaining devices without an internet connection and save the unadulterated version of file with a new name before reconnecting
I'm new to OneDrive, it's difficult to wrap my head around everything, it can be very confusing. I'm still confused but you did a great job explaining everything and I'm gaining some confidence. Baby steps for now. Thank you, Sir
Thank you Leo, your videos are a big help. For now I'm backing up everything to my primary HD (SSD) but will back up again to conventional HD in the same PC until I can afford more hardware. Alternatively I might invest in a NAS and forget cloud storage, but then again it's handy for sharing photos and the like across mobile devices.
Brilliant I learned so much. I need to back up all my files and I am getting worried about loosing them by using OneDrive. I am regreting to having used OneDrive :( it is not user friendly and it is confusing. At the end of the day I want to go back to my old fashioned ways to keep all files in an external drive. Thank you so much ❤
Dear Leo, Thank you for such clear explanations. You have saved my time and enlightened my recovery and back up pathway Keep it up with those valuables content. God bless you.
Timestamps 00:04 - OneDrive files require local backup for complete data protection. 01:42 - Backup your OneDrive files to prevent data loss. 03:33 - Manage OneDrive folder syncing to optimize PC space. 05:04 - Managing OneDrive backup involves selective file access to save space. 06:47 - OneDrive's on-demand feature downloads files as needed. 08:36 - Understand file states and backup management in OneDrive. 10:10 - Use OneDrive to ensure all files are backed up on your PC. 11:56 - Backing up OneDrive files requires simple external storage setup.
Onedrive does have a 30 day version history and a recycle bin, it also has ransomware detection. But yes if MS lock your account or you don't pay your bill for more than 5GB storage then that backup strategy is at risk.
At 7:40, If you back up your laptop, in your MyWordDocuments, I'd think that example 2 & 3 would be "accessed" by the backup program (just like opening example 1 like you did), the file would be retrieved from OneDrive, now be on your laptop, and backed up. You're saying it does not work like that? Thanks for the informative video. We have one of our PCs with all our pictures, and it has a Carbonite subscription. I should probably set up my laptop to do backups with that other PC as the backup target, then the backup file(s) will be backed up to Carbonite as well.
Great info presented very clearly. I'm curious what you think of services like Acronis that offer cloud to cloud backup for one's Microsoft 365 account (including OneDrive)?
When backing up PC I'm unsure if Google Drive files and folders on the PC have been backed up as well after what you explain with OneDrive. Something weird is happening in Google Drive. 1. Under Google Drive Settings it indicates that files are on the cloud or in other words online but not mirrored to the PC. 2. Under Google Drive>My Drive I right click and under properties it shows the size of files and folders and all of them are occupying disk space on the PC. 3. All folders and files under My Drive in Windows Explorer show the empty cloud icons 4. Any file I opened under My Drive opens fast without downloading. 5. When right clicking any file or folder under My Drive it gives an option to keep this file or folder offline. 1,3, and 5 above suggest that the files and folders are online without local copies. 2 and 4 above seem to suggest that the files and folders are local while on the cloud too. There are no sync issues or error messages in the Google Drive icon running in the taskbar tray on the PC. The above is quite contradictory, inconsistent and confusing.
I am still confused. I got OneDrive to use in two ways. One is to conveniently share files, done. Those few file are on my C drive (1tb in size). Now I have the bulk of my files on My D drive (2tb in size). How can I backup those file to one drive? I just want a save place to hold them if the drive fails or is destroyed. No cloud editing, no access needed from another computer. Just a backup. Do I have to add it do the OneDrive folder?
Enjoyed the explanation of onedrive backup. By default ondrive links to the user profile on C drive. Do you have a video that explains how to link onedrive backup to an external D drive for example? Thanks for the video!
OneDrive settings has a location option. If nothing else you can unlink, move your OneDrive folder to D:, and then re-link making sure to specify the new location as part of setup. askleo.com/how-do-i-move-my-onedrive-folder/
Help! Onedrive puts my files on OneDrive whether I want them there or not! I doing some graphic files I do not want in the cloud. My internet is sketchy and I don't want to work off of the cloud! And it saves somethings to the cloud that I have no idea where it went! I have to search dates to find my files! HELP Surely there is a way to stop it!
I do not see that "always keep on this device" option a few files that I do not want to backup. I have a few files that are not synching I would like to remove them from being backed up.
We have our OneNote files in OneDrive. They are saved as an Internet Shortcut, rather than a pdf or jpg file/folder. How do I back up that? I'm not a techy person and am struggling with this. TIA
I used some files on Onedrive and did not back up them. However one file had a problem: One drive kept saying "there is a more recent version on line, do you want to use that?" I said no for months, till one day I thought"maybe better to use that newer file .. I must have done something wrong" . The moment I said yes to the newer file it update my file and I lost all changes I had made last 4 months! But no worries ... One drive has a history of this file, or at least I thought so. However when I looked at the history there was my last file and then files from January and earlier but all the ones from february to april were missing. Gone was all my work...
can you please elaborate on backing up your various cloud services to external hdd 24/7. is the drive encrypted? whats the layered sec on that backup pc?
Leo, your entirely valid headline question is "How do I backup onedrive files?" I don't see an answer here. I have two computers with 256 Gb ssd's and I have about 600 Gb of files on onedrive. At present I back up using a couple of 1Tb external drives, alternating. I copy from onedrive using File Manager Copy (in the onedrive structure) and Paste on the external drive. Sooner or later I am going to make a mistake, for example using Cut and Paste in error. I don't think any proprietary backup package will back up from onedrive. I can't have everything on onedrive permanently accessible locally - I don't have enough room.
In the end that you said... Does it mean that One drive is unreliable? Or cloud storage us unreliable snd you may lose your data from Cloud? I think cloud is even more reliable than storing data on a hard disk.
Great tutorial. . . Thank you Q: 2 folders in OneDrive with the same basic data from two different dates. One is a copy of the other with file changes in the same named folders. Not sure how this happened but need to remove 1 without deleting the folder on PC. Any instructions for this? My understanding is any folder deleted on OneDrive Cloud or PC deletes the files permanently.
Do either Dropbox or OneDrive allow one to sync/copy folders/files to both a computer's internal hard drive as well as an external hard drive attached to that same computer? Also, is there a utility by either Dropbox or OneDrive to backup up cloud files to a local external hard drive? My objective is create redundancy backups in case something goes wrong with the cloud files.
No. Dropbox/OneDrive work on one and only one folder on your PC. Using a traditional backup program like Macrium Reflect, EaseUS Todo or others to back up your entire PC to an external disk would be the way to go.
@@askleonotenboom Thanks for the follow up comment above. Question, I assume one has to download everything from cloud files (either Dropbox or OneDrive) before doing a backup to an external drive using either Macrium or EaseUS. However, there may not be enough room on the computer's internal hard drive that houses the cloud links to do that before I attempt to backup the entire drive. Is there any utility by either OneDrive, Dropbox or a 3rd party that allows one to backup cloud files directly to an external hard drive? If not, Microsoft or Dropbox should seriously consider such a feature. Love your RUclips tutorials . . . very professional and beautifully communicated!
@@SamMorell Thanks! I'm not aware of such a feature. My approach is to have a big enough hard drive. Particularly since I use Dropbox, OneDrive, ProtonDrive, and Google Drive. :-) But, yes, it's a problem if your hard drive doesn't have enough room for your entire cloud storage.
It seems to me that once OneDrive has been started then any files in the "native" documents folder stay there and do not appear under OneDrive. Any files I download (update files for example) are on this "native" drive.
If I do download all files (through the files-on-demand settings), does this mean that files will be saved into the cloud, then copied to the Hard Drive? Your videos are great, thank you.
By definition the files are in the cloud, always, if they're in OneDrive. Turning off File-on-Demand ensures that the data for all the files is also present on (downloaded to) your computer.
@@askleonotenboom I've just watched your later vid "Using Onedrive for nearly continuous backup". I like the idea of this. Onedrive and Backup has been a such a big confusion for me for too many years. 'Thanks again
Sorry, but if I back up my PC with my one drive file downloaded. When I restored from the PC backup. How to prevent onedrive from deleting file on PC? I mean will one drive delete my PC file because in the cloud, there is supposing no file at all.
Does 'Download All Files' work on an ongoing basis or does it simply download all the files on the cloud instance at the time you click on it? In other words, if after one clicked on 'Download All Files' and a day later created a new file on the cloud, would that new file be automatically downloaded? It seems to me the safest option might be to right click on the OneDrive parent folder and select 'Always Keep on This Device'. That way everything you do on OneDrive is _always_ mirrored on your local drive.
It should continue to apply to the folder you set it on and anything within. Yes, I also do the top-level holder so that all files are always downloaded.
Como puedo hacer el respaldo de One Drive sin usar un PC adicional. solo quiero hacer un back up directo en un EXTERNAL hard drive. Many thnks !! your videos are very clear
Leo, this tutorial answered my dellima of where and why I was always seeing downloading a particular file. I have been using your backup advise. Not really happy with this one drive.
hi sir i have 365 family 1 TB is it possible to buy an NAS 2x1TB raid 1 and let that download my complete onedrive? and wich nas do support that what i have found so far is that synnology only support onedrive business
@@xcrisso I was thinking external. I know there are external drives that come pre-configured for RAID, though I kinda think RAID is overkill for most folks especially as a place to keep backups.
Unfortunately this video confirmed that the problem I have has no solution. I want to move to using a laptop and was wondering if there was a way to backup roughly 500GB of files from onedrive onto an external drive if the Laptop only has 256GB. I dont want to use a second machine to do so, its a shame there is no backup mechanism for this scenario.
You can mark a OneDrive folder as not-visible in your laptop's one drive, and then upload the files you don't want on the laptop into that folder via the onedrive.com website.
@@askleonotenboom thanks for the reply but I dont see how that would allow me to backup all of my onedrives files (500+GB) onto an external drive connected to my laptop of 256GB
@@PantheraTK I think I misunderstood. Only thing I can think of is to move your OneDrive folder TO the external drive which a) is pretty risky, since we don't know how OneDrive will react if the drive's disconnected, and b) OneDrive might not let you do anyway.
I dont fancy applying onedrive storage in the system and the storage to me eventhough is free, but sometimes it can be fully full. This causes some program unable to download. As you sa Leo, i do agree with you, onedrive is not safe for long term.Thanks
Thanks Leo for another great video. If what I hear is what I think - you have files backed up from pc1 to One drive and the One drive backed up to pc2. If that’s my understanding, then what method used to back up the one drive?
What a complicated mess. Asked to login 14 times. Forced to change my password 4 times. Finally after subbing the monthly OneDrive cloud, it refuses to backup credentials and tells me to verify my identity yet again (15th time) but does not tell me how I am to do this. So incredibly sorry I tried to do anything with Microsoft. What a garbage can of needless complications.
Yes, you should back up your OneDrive files outside of OneDrive.
Question: why doesn't MicroSoft have versioning like Google Sheets/Docs have? If I make a mistake on Sheets for example, I can go back to previous version easily.
@@bt2896 File -> Info -> Version history? (This applies to Word/Excel/etc docs, so corresponds to Sheets etc.)
@@askleonotenboom Thank you.
Crikey, Leo, you always offer a mountain of good sense and solutions to problems that people don't think they have- until they have problems. Again, another day, another thing learnt. I thought I had One Drive cracked, but not in any way, it is much more complicated than the average person can deal with, without tuition- like this. This is the best 15 minutes I have spent today. Thank you.
Thank you, Leo! I've been using One Drive for more than a year and now I finally understand how this works.
I love the way you get straight into the ´meat´ of the video topic in seconds. No fluff, no fancy into, just BAM! Straight into it!
Hi Leo, thank you for yet another brilliant video. You provide information in such a clear and well thought out way. I am learning even when I thought I knew the subject. Keep up this excellent service.
Thank You Leo, so glad I saw your video. Although it did help alot, I have a long way to go with saving my files. When I save a photo or a document ( am doing a lot of Ancestry saving) Sometimes I can never find the article or photo again. So frustrating. I even subscribe to Microsoft account annually in hopes I won't lose my stuff but I don't know how to use it. I will keep studying your videos!!
yeah me too!
From one Leo to another, thank you!
Thank you Leo . From 2021 I am searching for the green tick that comes on folder from one drive . Now I satisfied by this video u explain . Great job man . 👍
@0:40 -- If I understand what our host explained, there is a potential problem.
If, for example, you have 3 devices, all set up to automatically sync, then if you screw up a file one of those 3 devices, then your screw-up gets copied to your other 2 devices.
Whereas, if you were to not set automatic syncing on one of your 3 devices, then you would recover your file from the device that did not get synced.
I suggest that if you can count on yourself to periodically manually sync your files, then that will give you finer control over the safekeeping of your files.
But if you know yourself, and you know that you will not bother to periodically manually sync your files, then set the automatic syncing.
Putting 100% on autopilot is giving up a level of control. But autopilot is good for some people -- until they accidentally mangle some file and kick themselves for having that mangled file overwrite the good copies on their other devices.
Lastly, when you use cloud storage, you are using someone else's computer (complete strangers).
You are handing your files to complete strangers, in the clear. Yes, your files get encrypted in transport to the strangers. But they get decrypted upon arrival at the stranger's computer.
Microsoft, Google, and any other cloud storage service can see everything that you put on their computers. They are not likely looking (unless you are a noteworthy person -- a celebrity, or government official, or someone making headlines, etc). But it is likely that they scan everything, and who knows what type of index or profile they build on you. If you have trade secrets, or anything that can ruin your life, you would be nuts to hand those files over to them.
If you encrypt your files, before they get uploaded to a cloud service, then you are protecting yourself. But if you upload your company's trade secrets, without first encrypting them, you are reckless.
Cloud storage services require you to agree to contracts written 100% by their attorneys, to serve their interests, that you are required to agree with, which turns ownership of your files to them. In other words, any files that you put on their servers are now owned by them.
If you do not need the convince of syncing files between devices, then just make copies of your important files, and manually put them on your other devices, as needed. But if you care zero about sharing your files with anonymous people, then cloud services are a great option.
That’s exactly how it works, by design. OneDrive is not a backup, it’s a syncing system that people often mistake for a backup. But if you have a PC connected to OneDrive you can set an automated backup (let’s say that runs once a day at 12:00 midnight). So if you accidentally deleted a file from OneDrive you could have a backup that contains that from the prior day at midnight.
@@riffdex In an emergency, you could also start up one of the remaining devices without an internet connection and save the unadulterated version of file with a new name before reconnecting
This is eye opening ngl. It is more of a syncing tool and not a backup tool.
I'm new to OneDrive, it's difficult to wrap my head around everything, it can be very confusing. I'm still confused but you did a great job explaining everything and I'm gaining some confidence. Baby steps for now. Thank you, Sir
Thank you Leo, your videos are a big help. For now I'm backing up everything to my primary HD (SSD) but will back up again to conventional HD in the same PC until I can afford more hardware. Alternatively I might invest in a NAS and forget cloud storage, but then again it's handy for sharing photos and the like across mobile devices.
This was SUPER informative. Thank you soooo much for explaining all of this!
Brilliant I learned so much. I need to back up all my files and I am getting worried about loosing them by using OneDrive. I am regreting to having used OneDrive :( it is not user friendly and it is confusing. At the end of the day I want to go back to my old fashioned ways to keep all files in an external drive. Thank you so much ❤
This is exactly the answer I needed!
Boy, do I hate MS taking control of my computer a bit at a time. Thanks, Leo!
Dear Leo,
Thank you for such clear explanations. You have saved my time and enlightened my recovery and back up pathway
Keep it up with those valuables content.
God bless you.
thank you Sir for the explanation, your are very professional , a very good Teacher
What's your opinion re cloud-to-cloud backup for those of us that don't have a second computer?
Timestamps
00:04 - OneDrive files require local backup for complete data protection.
01:42 - Backup your OneDrive files to prevent data loss.
03:33 - Manage OneDrive folder syncing to optimize PC space.
05:04 - Managing OneDrive backup involves selective file access to save space.
06:47 - OneDrive's on-demand feature downloads files as needed.
08:36 - Understand file states and backup management in OneDrive.
10:10 - Use OneDrive to ensure all files are backed up on your PC.
11:56 - Backing up OneDrive files requires simple external storage setup.
Onedrive does have a 30 day version history and a recycle bin, it also has ransomware detection. But yes if MS lock your account or you don't pay your bill for more than 5GB storage then that backup strategy is at risk.
At 7:40, If you back up your laptop, in your MyWordDocuments, I'd think that example 2 & 3 would be "accessed" by the backup program (just like opening example 1 like you did), the file would be retrieved from OneDrive, now be on your laptop, and backed up. You're saying it does not work like that?
Thanks for the informative video. We have one of our PCs with all our pictures, and it has a Carbonite subscription. I should probably set up my laptop to do backups with that other PC as the backup target, then the backup file(s) will be backed up to Carbonite as well.
Great info presented very clearly. I'm curious what you think of services like Acronis that offer cloud to cloud backup for one's Microsoft 365 account (including OneDrive)?
And indeed that file mentioned below did not look any better on the other 2 pc's that have one drive.... Very helpful video, thank you..
It's not a backup tool. It's a file synching thing.
When backing up PC I'm unsure if Google Drive files and folders on the PC have been backed up as well after what you explain with OneDrive. Something weird is happening in Google Drive.
1. Under Google Drive Settings it indicates that files are on the cloud or in other words online but not mirrored to the PC.
2. Under Google Drive>My Drive I right click and under properties it shows the size of files and folders and all of them are occupying disk space on the PC.
3. All folders and files under My Drive in Windows Explorer show the empty cloud icons
4. Any file I opened under My Drive opens fast without downloading.
5. When right clicking any file or folder under My Drive it gives an option to keep this file or folder offline.
1,3, and 5 above suggest that the files and folders are online without local copies.
2 and 4 above seem to suggest that the files and folders are local while on the cloud too.
There are no sync issues or error messages in the Google Drive icon running in the taskbar tray on the PC.
The above is quite contradictory, inconsistent and confusing.
I am still confused. I got OneDrive to use in two ways. One is to conveniently share files, done. Those few file are on my C drive (1tb in size). Now I have the bulk of my files on My D drive (2tb in size). How can I backup those file to one drive? I just want a save place to hold them if the drive fails or is destroyed. No cloud editing, no access needed from another computer. Just a backup. Do I have to add it do the OneDrive folder?
Enjoyed the explanation of onedrive backup. By default ondrive links to the user profile on C drive. Do you have a video that explains how to link onedrive backup to an external D drive for example? Thanks for the video!
OneDrive settings has a location option. If nothing else you can unlink, move your OneDrive folder to D:, and then re-link making sure to specify the new location as part of setup. askleo.com/how-do-i-move-my-onedrive-folder/
@@askleonotenboom Perfect! Thank you Leo!
Help! Onedrive puts my files on OneDrive whether I want them there or not! I doing some graphic files I do not want in the cloud. My internet is sketchy and I don't want to work off of the cloud! And it saves somethings to the cloud that I have no idea where it went! I have to search dates to find my files! HELP
Surely there is a way to stop it!
I do not see that "always keep on this device" option a few files that I do not want to backup. I have a few files that are not synching I would like to remove them from being backed up.
We have our OneNote files in OneDrive. They are saved as an Internet Shortcut, rather than a pdf or jpg file/folder. How do I back up that? I'm not a techy person and am struggling with this. TIA
Great info. Thanks
I used some files on Onedrive and did not back up them. However one file had a problem: One drive kept saying "there is a more recent version on line, do you want to use that?" I said no for months, till one day I thought"maybe better to use that newer file .. I must have done something wrong" . The moment I said yes to the newer file it update my file and I lost all changes I had made last 4 months! But no worries ... One drive has a history of this file, or at least I thought so. However when I looked at the history there was my last file and then files from January and earlier but all the ones from february to april were missing. Gone was all my work...
can you please elaborate on backing up your various cloud services to external hdd 24/7. is the drive encrypted? whats the layered sec on that backup pc?
i use google free storage as well..surely both would not lose everything ?
@@johnpro2847 right
New users may be confused why your files were moved from your PC's Documents folder to OneDrive's Documents folder
Leo, your entirely valid headline question is "How do I backup onedrive files?" I don't see an answer here. I have two computers with 256 Gb ssd's and I have about 600 Gb of files on onedrive. At present I back up using a couple of 1Tb external drives, alternating. I copy from onedrive using File Manager Copy (in the onedrive structure) and Paste on the external drive. Sooner or later I am going to make a mistake, for example using Cut and Paste in error. I don't think any proprietary backup package will back up from onedrive. I can't have everything on onedrive permanently accessible locally - I don't have enough room.
In the end that you said... Does it mean that One drive is unreliable?
Or cloud storage us unreliable snd you may lose your data from Cloud?
I think cloud is even more reliable than storing data on a hard disk.
Any cloud storage is "only one place". If you lose the account, you lose the data within it. So yes, you should also back up elsewhere.
@@askleonotenboom oh got it!
Although if I do not forget the account password, and have access to it then the cloud is pretty reliable isn't it?
@@bruhhh69 Until your account is hacked. Back it up.
@@askleonotenboom alright thanks brother I appreciate it! 🫡
Great tutorial. . . Thank you Q: 2 folders in OneDrive with the same basic data from two different dates. One is a copy of the other with file changes in the same named folders. Not sure how this happened but need to remove 1 without deleting the folder on PC. Any instructions for this? My understanding is any folder deleted on OneDrive Cloud or PC deletes the files permanently.
Do either Dropbox or OneDrive allow one to sync/copy folders/files to both a computer's internal hard drive as well as an external hard drive attached to that same computer? Also, is there a utility by either Dropbox or OneDrive to backup up cloud files to a local external hard drive? My objective is create redundancy backups in case something goes wrong with the cloud files.
No. Dropbox/OneDrive work on one and only one folder on your PC. Using a traditional backup program like Macrium Reflect, EaseUS Todo or others to back up your entire PC to an external disk would be the way to go.
@@askleonotenboom Thanks for the follow up comment above. Question, I assume one has to download everything from cloud files (either Dropbox or OneDrive) before doing a backup to an external drive using either Macrium or EaseUS. However, there may not be enough room on the computer's internal hard drive that houses the cloud links to do that before I attempt to backup the entire drive. Is there any utility by either OneDrive, Dropbox or a 3rd party that allows one to backup cloud files directly to an external hard drive? If not, Microsoft or Dropbox should seriously consider such a feature. Love your RUclips tutorials . . . very professional and beautifully communicated!
@@SamMorell Thanks! I'm not aware of such a feature. My approach is to have a big enough hard drive. Particularly since I use Dropbox, OneDrive, ProtonDrive, and Google Drive. :-) But, yes, it's a problem if your hard drive doesn't have enough room for your entire cloud storage.
It seems to me that once OneDrive has been started then any files in the "native" documents folder stay there and do not appear under OneDrive. Any files I download (update files for example) are on this "native" drive.
That's true UNTIL you turn on the OneDrive backup feature, at which point things are irrevocably moved around.
If I do download all files (through the files-on-demand settings), does this mean that files will be saved into the cloud, then copied to the Hard Drive? Your videos are great, thank you.
By definition the files are in the cloud, always, if they're in OneDrive. Turning off File-on-Demand ensures that the data for all the files is also present on (downloaded to) your computer.
@@askleonotenboom I've just watched your later vid "Using Onedrive for nearly continuous backup". I like the idea of this. Onedrive and Backup has been a such a big confusion for me for too many years. 'Thanks again
Sorry, but if I back up my PC with my one drive file downloaded. When I restored from the PC backup. How to prevent onedrive from deleting file on PC? I mean will one drive delete my PC file because in the cloud, there is supposing no file at all.
Does 'Download All Files' work on an ongoing basis or does it simply download all the files on the cloud instance at the time you click on it? In other words, if after one clicked on 'Download All Files' and a day later created a new file on the cloud, would that new file be automatically downloaded?
It seems to me the safest option might be to right click on the OneDrive parent folder and select 'Always Keep on This Device'. That way everything you do on OneDrive is _always_ mirrored on your local drive.
It should continue to apply to the folder you set it on and anything within. Yes, I also do the top-level holder so that all files are always downloaded.
Great info
Como puedo hacer el respaldo de One Drive sin usar un PC adicional. solo quiero hacer un back up directo en un EXTERNAL hard drive. Many thnks !! your videos are very clear
Microsoft's OS features have been confusing since day one.
so files on demand doesnt take up space until its opned?
Exactly.
When I try backing up my computer to an external hard drive it automatically excludes the One Drive files. Is there any way around this?
Depends on the backup program you're using, and the configuration of OneDrive.
Leo, this tutorial answered my dellima of where and why I was always seeing downloading a particular file. I have been using your backup advise. Not really happy with this one drive.
hi sir
i have 365 family 1 TB
is it possible to buy an NAS 2x1TB raid 1 and let that download my complete onedrive?
and wich nas do support that
what i have found so far is that synnology only support onedrive business
Independant NAS devices, no. But you can connect a hard disk (SSD, RAID, whatever) to a computer and download it all there.
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Great idea
I have the option to instal ekstra disk in pc
Is it possible to do raid 1 on 2 disk in an regular pc system
@@xcrisso I was thinking external. I know there are external drives that come pre-configured for RAID, though I kinda think RAID is overkill for most folks especially as a place to keep backups.
@@askleonotenboom i have a little hobby company so redundancy is important to me
Unfortunately this video confirmed that the problem I have has no solution. I want to move to using a laptop and was wondering if there was a way to backup roughly 500GB of files from onedrive onto an external drive if the Laptop only has 256GB.
I dont want to use a second machine to do so, its a shame there is no backup mechanism for this scenario.
You can mark a OneDrive folder as not-visible in your laptop's one drive, and then upload the files you don't want on the laptop into that folder via the onedrive.com website.
@@askleonotenboom thanks for the reply but I dont see how that would allow me to backup all of my onedrives files (500+GB) onto an external drive connected to my laptop of 256GB
@@PantheraTK I think I misunderstood. Only thing I can think of is to move your OneDrive folder TO the external drive which a) is pretty risky, since we don't know how OneDrive will react if the drive's disconnected, and b) OneDrive might not let you do anyway.
I dont fancy applying onedrive storage in the system and the storage to me eventhough is free, but sometimes it can be fully full. This causes some program unable to download. As you sa Leo, i do agree with you, onedrive is not safe for long term.Thanks
thanks
Thanks Leo for another great video. If what I hear is what I think - you have files backed up from pc1 to One drive and the One drive backed up to pc2. If that’s my understanding, then what method used to back up the one drive?
Backing up either PC1 or PC2 using an image backup will do it.
makes sense, thx!
don't see a onedrive app on the mac
You have to install it from the App Store.
@@askleonotenboom cool thanks. I clicked the stupid icon 10 times nothing happened. One would think it would’ve opened the App Store.
@@askleonotenboom I installed it and still nothing. There’s no settings anywhere on the Mac.
@@DrJohnPollard Hit me up at askleo.com/ask. I have screenshots.
What a complicated mess. Asked to login 14 times. Forced to change my password 4 times. Finally after subbing the monthly OneDrive cloud, it refuses to backup credentials and tells me to verify my identity yet again (15th time) but does not tell me how I am to do this. So incredibly sorry I tried to do anything with Microsoft. What a garbage can of needless complications.
I also backup my files to an external drive
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Painful lesson for me.
Thank you!
I hate One Drive!
OneDrive? Good explanation but too confusing still. Thanks but no thanks. If you cant understand it, don't use it.