hank pym vs LOKI
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- 'The best' selected Scenes from 'Marvel's What If?...' @Hank pym - 90's Antman, for my dear subscribers !
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You can actually tell that it was Loki when he sounded serious when he mentioned Thor
True and how so many Fury's showed up or how he survived that many "STINGS"
He did actually love his brother even if he wasn't great at showing it.
@@pugtie4695 totally.... Like the part where he tried to get him killed by tricking Odin into taking his powers away and then sending the terminator to kill him and everyone he told about the truth... And he did that because he was jealous.
@@thephoenix4093 Thor: he is adopted.
You can actually tell when he goes "Her mother was an agent?" something Loki wouldn't know but Fury would.
For those keeping score, this is what Hank was afraid of if Darren Cross was able to sell a working Yellowjacket suit to Hydra. When they said it was perfect assassin tech, they weren't bullshitting anyone.
Tbf, most of his kills were from Hank himself being smart enough to find solutions to kill beings like the Hulk.
@@Secretary_Pal Most of what he did was something anyone might have tried if they had the tech. All he did was go inside their bodies and mess with something important.
@@Secretary_Pal honestly only the hulk kill needed intelligence to pull off
@@BobThePenguin. That was also partly a scenario of writers dumbing down things to make it possible to kill the hulk, they pretty much turned the Hulk into some DeviantArt inflation popping artwork where they just disappear into thin air, in reality what would of happened is all his blood vessels would of swollen and popped through out his body, but overall he would still be alive, hell they made the hulk's skeleton pretty much disappear just for the sake of that, like wth do people think would happen to the skeleton in scenarios like that, even if we consider blood potentially getting into the bones the bones would of had to be the last things to explode, and even then the Hulk has a healing factor on par, if not better than Wolverine's and has been showcased to be able to recover from being reduces to almost nothing but a skeleton.
@@funkmantim2661 He wouldn’t be alive you idiot the Hulk’s heart exploded, even a being as powerful as the hulk can’t survive that, the only reason wolverine can survive is his healing factor which Hulk doesn’t have Hulk has Regenerative skills and insane endurance but even that can kill him
I love Loki’s gleeful tone whenever he’s up to trickery
and the fact that you could tell he was mad when mentioning him killing thor
Hellooo trickster god Hi
I hate it bro I Loki season 2 about to ruin it his character
@@MrTytyjohn64this is a different loki
Why didnt loki kill him
I liked that Loki was still a villain in that timeline. It would've been too tempting to offer someone as charming as Loki a spot on the Avengers.
He actually still is in that timeline
Also pym gave him all the evidence he needed to say he was right to send an army to Earth and take it over
Loki perhaps has triggered hank to do this
He ends up ruling the Earth.
I don't think someone as shrewd as Fury would ever trust Loki enough to make him an Avenger.
I love the little hints that it’s Loki before the fight. The way he says everyone’s names is just like how someone who didn’t know them and was given a list would say them. Real Fury would’ve just used their aliases or last names only, Loki listed full. Then there was how he addressed Thor…
I love the attention to detail in this series.
Yea it was funny the way he said everyone's name but uses Thor's prince title when he'd probably be called Thor Odinson
The writers knew he was Loki the whole time so why would they ever try to make him sound like fury😭 you special
@@mankiller7023 … I think you’re a little young to be on here. Lol. The hints are for the audience; they’re little clues for us to figure it out before the reveal. It has nothing to do with the writers knowing or not.
Right?!
I also saw it as it was fury for thr first half of the fight and just saying the names like that to get under hank's skin to get a real confession outta him. And then after that smoke screen it was loki.
Almost all fictional characters good turning evil have eyebags 😂
Something about stress
evil never sleeps :(
@@kushorises9871 sleep is for the weak lol
evil don't wash their face
@@sithwolf8017 what about odin-sleep
This couldn't have worked out in Loki's favor any better. Loki got Thor banished, then he got to avenge him.
😂😂Right, But Loki is always destined to lose no matter what universe he’s in. He might’ve enjoyed his little short lived glory that he received in this universe for avenging his brother, but in the end, he’ll always falter for underestimating how powerful humans can be because of his superiority complex and arrogance for seeing humans beneath him.
@@SSJBlueVegito
* Cough not same universe
@@Life-vt8yi *cough, who cares cough*.
@@SSJBlueVegito *cough I care cough*
@@SSJBlueVegito Even assuming butterflies, Loki has like, a decade, tops, before Thanos wakes up feeling particularly snappy one day.
This scene actually shows that how powerful Loki really is ! We all know about his trickster and illusionary abilities, but this scene shows how proficient he is in hand to hand combat and fighting as well. After all he is an Asgardian.
Edit:- I know Loki is a Jotun, I mentioned him as an Asgardian because Loki considers himself more as an Asgardian than a Jotun. As he always says, "I AM LOKI... OF ASGARD." While he also introduced himself as Odinson moments before his death in Infinity War.
Please let's not destroy the "Perfect" likes
I mean he's Jotun, but that's about as impressive so your point still stands.
He was a frost giant first and also shows how much loki doesn't try in the main mcu
The loki series says otherwise.
@@okand6770 its not like he doens't try, he's just not that strong in mcu, this version of him is clearly buffed in comparation with MCU
I love how when loki was mentioning the avengers, he was kind of bull shitting his acting a little bit. But when Hank said that Thor's death was a "Favor" That's when he actually got pissed.
favor of who? did you ever thought about that?
@@muhammadshurenshah2928 favor to shield ofc, at this point thor is still unknown wether he's good or bad and shield was investigating mjolnir too in that moment
@@bellaqua4324 No, they did not know who thor was, he means a favour to the world, it doesn't need another hero, like he said more or less
One thing I’ve noticed in this What If series is whenever a character loses someone that meant the world to them it doesn’t just drive them to go down a darker path but it always turns their skin pale and their eyelids are so dark like they haven’t slept for months
For example,Hank Pym as we see in the episode but also Supreme Strange
Yes it's trying to convey a message without outright telling people what's what. Visual story telling ya know.
I mean strange ate demons 24/7 for ten thousand years, I would hope he'd look a little fatigued
@@unoriginalhazard Yep
@@andrewphillips4681 Yeah but after he’s done absorbing them he still looks normal but I guess maybe it could’ve happened while he was looking for Strange
@@talkingben3332 he gets worse over the montage slowly
Plus it's a dark area he's in
"Thats it? You murdered him cuz you could?"
Not even Loki did this that low, he manipulates but aint insane
Damn this fight was the most awesome thing in the series
I dunno, remember that conversation between Nick and Loki in the first Avengers?
Nick: "Why did you kill my agents?"
Loki: "Why do you step on ants?"
That and perhaps he still sees Thor as his brother.
Hank said Thor's death was a 'favor'...to Loki probably? Maybe Loki was pulling the strings all along since he ended up using Thor's death as an excuse to invade Earth in this episode.
@@AlwaysSomeone that's not normal loki tho remember he was being influenced by the mind stone
I think Loke does want to kill his brother earlier in the movies, but it's that weird "nobody kills you but me" thing. I know it sounds petty and selfish but well, this is Loki we are talking about.
Loki really dragged out mentioning Thor like he was absolutely pissed.
Little bro does care.😭
Doesn't matter which universe he's in; Director Nick Fury is always the GOAT.
nah he's the FURY
He is senior Agent, that's why he always have plan.
U do realize he didn't actually do anything here
@@alexandercacaveo302 Who said he didn't do anything ? Nick Furry manipulate all super hero to become superhero
@@LatenightDev ur slow
I love how Loki says “her mother was an agent!?”, almost gossiping and amused, forgetting that he’s posing as someone who should know xD
“An ant has no quarrel with a boot.”
-Loki, The Avengers 2012
0:42 best transition ever.
My dad died
@@Polymerata sorry for your loss.
@@Polymerata k
@@Polymerata lol
@@Polymerata cope+ratio
I should’ve figured it out when Fury was surprised that Hope’s mom was an agent, a fact Fury apparently forgot to tell Loki before they hatched the plan together.
I love how they’ve been doing Loki justice recently
his show was a travesty to the character
@@leojs5673 It was not
@@mr.magpie2 copium "it was not"
@@LonkiDonki You cope, it was not
@@mr.magpie2 thr show humanized him more but it also made him a pathetic loser
"Her mother was an agent?" you couldn't resist that one could you Loki XD
Check a few other comments
It says that nick fury didn't know know she was an agent
@@benedictcorpuz5582 nah that's loki, fury would've went through shield history records all the way to the start of shield.
Loki may not have Thor's raw power but his illusions and precision are top notch and against an enemy like this that's what is extremely useful.
Come to think of it, Hank was the type of man that was some tragedies away from being a supervillain.
He makes Wanda look almost reasonable.
Hank: You took everything from me
Loki: I don’t even know who you are
How did loki even take everything from hank?
@@benedictcorpuz5582 he thought it was fury
Wish we had this Loki in the Loki series :/
Isnt President Loki supposed to be this one?
They could've really maximized what Loki can do in his own series, they really dropped the ball on him in his show
@@The-Deadite loki takes place before this ffs...
@@The-Deadite nah he was a clown
@@gbozzi05_ Loki doesn’t take place at any point in time.
Funny how the literal scientist couldn't find out something was wrong when the guy he knows doesn't do that much gymnastics can backflip like that.
TBF, its Nick Fury, the dude may have learned someone was coming for him and given himself some super serum or something.
My guess is he never fought him before so athleticism like that is odd but not something to get suspicious about.
Seeing Loki as Fury get angry when learning why Thor was killed was both chilling and heartwarming to see.
00:16 this response from nick fury is pure Loki 😂 Really shows how he couldn’t care less about Pym 😅
I was actually surprised Michael Douglas really gave his all for this VA performance. Guys like him would usually phone it in
Also he participated in a Doctor Seuss cartoon
Just one thing if those were the asgardians who had hank pym were they taking him to jail why couldn't the shield agents take him
Because Loki demanded that he get the one who killed Thor
@@ravecrazeglitch2360 oh that's great I mean I wonder what Odin would do to hank pym maybe like kill him
@@greenlantern4486 Odin was dead, with Thor not returning Loki basically became the new king of Asgard. Loko was although mad at Hank for killing Thor because deep down somewhere he still loved his brother.
@@Vampire00974 wasnt in that universe, where loki still went loco as usual cuz he is the god of mischief and attacked the shield ship in the end of what if
@@RGINYT yes, the universe we see at the end of what if is that universe. IIRC The Watcher sent the Black Widow from the universe with Ultron-Vision to that universe as a sort of thanks for helping him defeat Ultron-Vision
I can't believe in this universe Hank Pym killed 5 of the Avengers before Fury could Assemble them all because Hope was killed. Doesn't he release killing the Avengers won't bring her back?
Wait, until you grow up...
@@BaronMartin not helping
ant man tech screws with your head. plus with his daughter dead, what little sanity he had snapped. once he put the yellow jacket on, his brain likely broke further
@@TheSimmr001 true
Hank Pym is mentally unstable, thats why his Yellow Jacket persona & Ultron (who's based on his brain in the comics) are messed up...
I love this episode because Loki was an absolute beast and it shows how much he will do if Thor was killed
Damn shame that Loki forgot about all these moves in his own TV show
Ikr?
Different universe but yeah.
@@justincummings8557 Even in universe, the TVA was incredibly crippling to Loki
@@goldbyrd3667 true
i'm guessing higher budget cause live-action moves are much more costly.
also I remember watching Black Widow in What If, and the moves she pulled was inhuman, like she has superpower agility.
If you noticed something, the moment Loki was saying Thors name. You notice how serious he sounded of what happened to Thor. It really meant that Loki really cared about his brother even though they never seen eye to eye. Even when Loki said "You murdered him because you could?" Then you notice that Loki just stopped smiling that whole fight until he humiliated Yellowjacket.
This is the mindset Hank Pym had when he built Ultron and his personality IN THE COMICS. No wonder Ultron went insane
I've always wondered how they changed Loki from being a menacing trickster like this into a less "powerful" Loki that gets killed by Thanos.
He was soft,just that,he cares about thor at that exact moment,i believe
Well the only fights that he does in avengers on his own is against shield in the start and against hulk. Shield wasn’t prepared for Loki to attack, and he started controlling the agents with the mind stone.
Hulk on the other hand, whooped Lokis ass. Thanos whooped hulks ass, so it’s natural that Loki wouldn’t win that fight.
When he attacked jotunheim he only got a few of the giants by tricking them off cliffs with illusions.
Well, while Loki is very strong, you gotta understand that most of his fights are with superior strength foes. Hulk, Thor, Thanos, all physically stronger than Loki. The only other person who attempted to challenge Loki to a fight was Captain America and Capt almost lost if Iron Man hadn't shown up. Even then, Loki intentionally threw the fight so he could get captured and learn the location of their Helicarrier. Against a human, Loki is like a full grown man beating up a 5 year old.
@@Netherwolf6100 also Loki could've killed Valkyrie in Ragnarok when he showed her that memory and she was in a trance
Yeah for a GOD OF MISCHIEF he rarely does any mischief, you'd think with his powers he will never actually be there physically and his actual self will always be invisible. Even Misterio looks more like a trickster god than the trickster god does.
This is the character as an enemy. The Loki from the series is what we get when unlocking them as playabe
Lmao same thing with Good Guy Thanos in episode 2.
This was my favorite episode
I do love this episode, however the Doctor Strange episode was so good that I would say it is better
@@joshuajasper5844 that one was really good too
This one was my favorite too with Doctor Strange at a extremely close second
Fun Fact: In the original marvel comics Not only was Hank Pym the Original Ant Man but he was also The Original Yellow Jacket.
What about the 70s and 80s?? I thought he's the original.
He was also the original giant man, and original something else not sure what
Probably the only time we’ll see Loki’s fighting skills and agility displayed accurately 
I'm guessing they had Tom record lines for Sam so he could then make Fury's voice match Loki's tone and demeanor. Fury wouldn't say "Anthony Stark" or "What of Thor, prince of Asgard?" he'd say "Tony Stark" and "What about Thor?"
Wish we had that Loki in his series.
We... kinda had it? I'm not entirely sure bute either President Loki was this Loki or Hiddleston based this Loki to make his performance of President Loki
@@KanaidBlack ya
Or in the Avengers movie
@@thomasgarfield6108 Wdym in avengers 1 Loki was so close conquer the earth until the missile destroyed chittori main ship
@@thomasgarfield6108 people just make there own things and does not understand that this Loki is different than our 616 Loki like thanos was different in what if series than in infinity war plzz first understand the whole thing then comment
0:25 I don't even know who you are !
finally someone
Finally, loki not being thrown around in every melee fight!
Loki in here, actually a good fighter, who remembers his abilities. Loki nearly every movie after the first Thor: I am here to make jokes
Too bad we never got a Loki this strong in the MCU
Is it really too much to ask for Loki to have the ability to fly and shoot lasers out of his fingers. Or at least a competent fight scene for our defeater of captain America.
Loki was able to beat a 70 year old man here so that's about average for him.
Honestly, I'm confused at how Pym lost. It's also weird the guy only ever has his shrink gadgets when it's convenient for the plot.
"Yeah, we know Yellowjacket usually comes with a shrink ray, it's why Darren Cross started with one, but we also know it's too OP, which is why he didn't have it for long."
aaaaand now we do
@@holyjolias3229 I'm glad thats is how it turned out 😁
@@shroom3074 This is still the MCU though, just yet another variant.
This show was absolutely crazy. 10/10
Could you imagine THIS Loki in his own show, it would have been way shorter
“Helooo trickster god hi”
By Far the most underrated episode in What If. Amazing writing
How did Hank know that nick was going to recruit Thor
@@t_dexyo1361 Because Hank knew Nick recruits powerful people. He knew he was going to recruit Tony, and Banner, and Romanov because of their skills, same way Nick recruited his daughter. So when a "god" lands on earth, Hank can make the educated guess that Nick would also try to recruit him
...and amazing plot twist
hank pym looks like a telltale games' character
I can see that
"There's no throne, no version where you come out on top"
These are Starks words
"pretty spry for a guy with a corner office"
I love his rage at Thor's death....
"Heeelloooo! Trickster god, Hi."
I love how this show allowed us to have some character match-ups that we will never get in the main MCU. Special props to the original actors that voiced their characters. Like how awesome it's to see Michael Douglas as Hank Pym confronting SLJ's Nick Fury who is really Tom Hiddleston's Loki?
Loki in What If :
Loki in the Loki series : Imma throw a funny green ball
Loki: now let me rule the world. Thank you
this 1.48 minute is waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the 2hours of thewaspandantmanquantumzzz
I wish more stories would show Antman’s (Hank’s) eventual evolution into Yellowjacket. He is a very complex character who’s influenced by Janet’s relationship with him, and it just seems ignored now.
The way Hank Pym said "Goldilocks" was quite funny.
I love and feel sad when Hank starts to not comprehend how Fury is so strong and then proceeds to trick him with illusions. All his thirst for revenge and confidence vanished instantly as they turned into confusion.
where was this Loki in his own show?
Here, his physicals are amazing.There he could barely punch,resorting more and more to magic
Yeah, I actually like how this episode remembered that Loki is physically stronger than any human, I feel like the writers have forgotten that.
I think to some degree it is due to Loki in his show being constantly thrown into situations where he's entirely out of his element or in other words not in control. On the other hand the one time he was fighting actual humans that weren't TVA was on a train while drunk, however given that he is a viking god you'd think that he'd be better at bar fights.
@@thegoodhunter3707 Why would he have bar fights ? He is a prince
@@dipromandal1072 well, his brother is indeed one of the biggest drunkards so loki surely wouldve been in many bar fights, i mean atleast in asgard
0:26 Loki: I don't even know who you are
I always love the "Hello, trickster god, hi"
This was the best episode, by far, because it really channeled that "What If..." energy perfectly.
Hank Pym killing all of the Avengers, basically halting the mainline story from ever happening is the exact kind of butterfly effect that makes a "What If..." scenario so interesting.
If Marvel played this right, they could make What If scenarios forever.
ORRRR Loki was just mad he didn’t get to kill Him himself
“I don’t give a damn about any of ‘em” was the funniest line lol
I think in this scene you can hear some of the same unsettling music sting that accompanying John Walker when he murdered the Flag Smasher.
I feel like Tom Ellis would make for a magneficent Loki.
Hank Pimp
Now Fury gets his ass kicked in secret invasion
This was Loki fighting him
0:16 I like to imagine Loki being fed this information through an ear piece and this is his reaction to his poetic this is
Imagine if Loki was this mischievous in The Avengers, he only fooled us like 2 times in that movie. Imagine if he did that in every fight he was in.
I like how they let him use his ice powers in this series. Why can't they do justice like that for loki in general?? It seems the animated what if series gave more respect for lokis character potential than the entire previous movies and shows he was in
TVA Loki said it himself, he had no idea how powerful he actually was. In What if, there was a different timeline. Thus, in those he would be aware, have motivation, and so on.
@@Ikajo so maybe in season 2 of Loki we will see Loki's full potential
@@scoobz4177 Hopefully 😊 Though I'm happy enough to see Loki as a hero
The slo mo flip was so sudden that I cracked up
LOL it's funny how Pym tried to go tiny three times and Loki just slaps him away every time
Loki reminds me of Aizen from bleach
I think the only avenger member that he didn't kill was Captain America since Hank knew the avengers initiatives and all it's member maybe he has respect for Steve Rogers
I don't think that SHIELD recruited Cap around this point
Cap was still in ice, this is already shown at the end of the episode.
Cap was still in ice
Cap still on ice in that episode. But in last episode we can see him fighting with Chitauri army alongside with Captain Marvel
This was definitely THE best episode so far
"What's with The Goth Kid?" - Hank Pym.
I’m sure it was an absolute pleasure. Loki gets very few opportunities to just body a super person
Why couldn't we have gotten THIS loki as the protagonist in his show?
Why are people saying that?
@@name_0178he got beat by a mind controlled regular big dude.
I love when he just slapped to him to the ground lmao
Loki was pissed when he heard that he killed Thor for pretty much no reason.
That was nice
Hank pym was actully a great villain
I had a feeling Loki was half avenging thor here
Little did Pym know that Thor was pretty much already a hero in asgard...
Goldilocks?
You need to remember that this took place before Loki was told he was adopted, so he was still rebellious teen Loki and not full blown evil Loki
And STILL managed to stomp Hank
No, this actually took place after Loki was told he was adopted. Loki finding out he was a Frost Giant happened before Thor's banishment to Earth and his argument with Odin in the vault was right after that. Thor was killed much later.
I thought something was up when I saw Fury moving like that
"Hello.... trickster god, hi." LOL 😂🤣😂🤣
0:43 with a straight face
I kinda laughed a little when Fury (Loki? whatever) did a back flip. I just don't ever imagine Fury doing something like that
Its show that Loki is really powerful than others
*_The Balls_*
You khow? now the future of this "What if" timeline became brighter when Loki helped)
🤓🤓🤓🤓
Hank Pym using Yellowjacket as his mentally unstable self. That tracks.
That's what happens when you make someone who was a founding member of the Avengers not a founding member of the Avengers anymore. People DIE!
Wait this isn’t Loki isn’t this ant man
I’m stupid never mind
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Uh.
Wait this isn't Loki, isn't this ant man
No it's Dr. Strange
I love that suit I’m glad they gave us a comic accurate yellow jacket
I knew it was Loki the whole time. Was it the characteristics, the trickery, and the hints? Oh no. Mainly because the answer was on the Title of this video the whole time. 🤣 Hank Pym vs. Loki. lol
They definitely started with the idea of the avengers dying than came up with the means and motivation after the fact. You can feel them really stretching for why he killed Thor.
Think it was more to show how insane Hank had become.