Seeing a lot of people kind of brush this off as "oh yeah that's entertainment business and Hollywood." Try to imagine yourself as a 12 year old, creating an incredible foundational relationship with an icon, going through so many adult processes when you're 12, still figuring out who you are as a person let alone an artist, then getting dropped and that role model, the person who said they would be there for you and you'd do it together, won't even pick up the phone. None of this is about a flopped album, it's about being a decent human being. I've worked with Greyson a couple times, not having known him before, and he is an incredibly down-to-earth, talented and above all HUMBLE person. He'd eat lunch with the crew and shoot the shit every single day. I believe everything Greyson says, and the only thing to learn from this is that growing up is a pain in the ass already, to have someone who you counted on shut you out is adding insult to injury. I'm glad Greyson persevered because Palladium is a gem.
What kind of "decent human being" uses someone's platform to get exposure, then talks shit about them after? Per Greyson, he failed because he refused to listen to Ellen's guidance. And per Greyson, Ellen still gave him a platform, even after they stopped working together So even though he was a brat and didnt listen to her, she was still being a decent human being and providing him exposure. And even though he hated her, he still went on her show to promote himself. Talk about being ungrateful
He's a fucking brat. Did his mom or no other adult not explain to him that Ellen is trying to make both of them money. Yeah kid watch the fucking DVD. Listen to Ellen. Make fucking money. My label dropped me because my sales sucked. Uh duh
I'm not totally following what happened that was so bad..he wasn't successful, people get dropped all the time. She still brought him on the show as he got older and yet he only credits himself and shows utter ingratitude to her for that..nobody owed you anything dude!
@@nobleone89 if someone is going to make public accusations, they should be specific not just make these general vague claims over and over. He is the one left looking bad to attack a likeable figure when all he has to say is that he felt abandoned that she dropped him and that she allegedly "berated" his mom for not doing something she asked them to do after signing them. And it is ridiculous for him to go on her show to be interviewed e.g. about coming out, and then say why would she do that and pretend we were on good terms when behind the scenes we weren't? It's a SHOW. Why did HE do it in the first place, then turn around and act like the victim. Celebs and people in general can be difficult, especially if you're trying to make it in Hollywood, that doesn't make it ok for people to just attack them like this especially without backing it up. Life is hard, people are hard, and this generation is full of entitled whiners who do not grasp this reality and are upset that people and life are not more perfecg and easy
@@AsMaineTheOrijinalGeisha yeah. it always seems simple, but the human element makes it hard. Same thing with people who want to lose weight, people always say “just stop eating,” “just quit smoking,” etc. But things like relationships have many factors. For example, many people in Greyson’s life keep telling him to be grateful for Ellen and that it’s normal to be treated that way. Now he’s grown and can speak for himself more.
i just watched on his channel under the video "i owe it all to myself" he explains why he continued to go on the show then why he declined to be on show for the closing season. if you care give it a watch, its only 3 minutes
I think Greyson has potential. Unfortunately, success in the entertainment industry is incredibly rare and never guaranteed. He needs to accept that his career flopped, just like countless other artists. All I got from his Rolling Stone interview is that Ellen DID in fact work around the clock to try and make him a star. She owed him nothing and yet she still worked hard in hopes of making him successful. Many artists have signed with agents, managers, and labels who often shelve their artists and don't even give them the time of day. At least Ellen tried.
I completely agree. I’m no fan of Ellen at all but it just seems that he’s grasping at anything that he thinks will give some attention in hopes of becoming relevant. He wasn’t complaining when he appeared on her show over 12 times…. SMH
I completely agree. I’m no fan of Ellen at all but it just seems that he’s grasping at anything that he thinks will give some attention in hopes of becoming relevant. He wasn’t complaining when he appeared on her show over 12 times…. SMH
Exactly! Would ANYONE know who he was If Ellen hadn’t given him a platform for people to see him and hear his music?? It’s not her fault of his music and career didn’t take off. He needs to take some accountability for what he could have done differently too.
I tried saying something similar on another video and someone tried telling me he was a child and that it was basically all ellen's fault. Smh. He needs to just take accountability for himself and let it go. As far as ellen goes people can say whatever they want about her and have the right to feel the way they do but despite it all she has done alot of good over the last decade or two and I think just because she's made some mistakes shouldn't destroy all the positive things she's done for others.
I don’t see what everyone is seeing. It just sounds like he reflected on being in the industry and basically confirmed that Ellen isn’t the person she claims she is. He understands now how maybe unhealthy the music industry was and how demanding it was beyond what he could handle at the time. Doesn’t sound entitled to me.
I get that ellen its an awful.person but its not her fault his career didnt took of she gave him.a spotlight he was just not lucky enough 2 make it big
So basically Ellen is like every other music producer, wants you to be like other successful stars, and when you start doing bad they decide to not continue with you. He sounds like he wants to blame everyone else for him failing.
a record label is not going to invest money on an artist that's not releasing HITS ! it's all about the HIT ! Ellen should of signed him to a kids show in nickelodeon......
Ellens production company has several failed tv shows and a game show used for humiliating people got cancelled as well. Her “stand up” failed as well. Only her name got her a spot on Netflix. She’s not funny at all
Exactly record labels drop you if you don’t do well a lot of folks need to learn how the music industry works it sounds like he is on the train for blaming Ellen
Guess what? Very few people "make it" in show business. She gave you all she could & it didn't work out. You got more support & things than many of us ever got. It's random chance, period. Ellen was hella busy with all the things, and she's not your mother.
I can't believe I'm siding with the multimillionaire, but it sounds like he's a bit self-entitled and had unrealistic expectations of what she was supposed to do for him. Honestly, it sounds like she went above and beyond what would have been reasonably expected of her, but her promoting him can't guarantee him success.
Seeing a lot of comments about Greyson's career flopping.. tf? In fact, he's doing better than ever. Became a huge fan of his, three albums ago, when he was finally in full control. Portraits, Trophies and now Palladium are some of my top favourite albums. Excited to see what future holds for him.
This honestly sounds like a non-story. I'm no fan of Ellen, I find her annoying, but what she did is no more manipulative than any Hollywood agent or manager. In entertainment you're hot one minute and forgotten the next. Everyone wants to be involved in your success when you're on the up and will divert their attention and energy elsewhere when your star is on the wane. At least there were several appearances on her show and as for the Justin Bieber thing; it makes sense that she'd suggest that route and use Bieber as a template given his insane popularity, at least as an in. When Mariah Carey first came out they fashioned her on Whitney Houston. A couple of years later, Mariah was known for being Mariah.
Sorry but the fact he continued to go on her show tells me everything I need to know about the situation. Ellen isn't perfect but none of us are and whether people want to accept it or not she has done alot of good.. He sounds like he needs to take accountability for himself and move on.
yo. y'all are living in a delusion. you haven't met ellen. you're making that clear. she's a deplorable human. it's crazy that so many people can agree that something is factual, while someone who has no experience in it can confidently say it's false or irrelevant. this woman is scumb×g human.
If he signed a contract to her record label It’s more then likely in his contract that he had to be on the show at her request doubt he wanted to be there or his own free will .
Yeah. She gave a lot of people a platform. That's good enough of a start. It's up to them what they do next. They can't just blame Ellen if they didn't make it big.
she literally sided with companies and changed the lives of hundreds if not thousands. she changed the lives of students and communities and people want to listen that she did not say hello to staffers. the toxic environment is indeed a serious issue, but I guess that her executives failed to do their job. she is to blame too, but she did not rape, bully, harass anyone. oh, yes ,I forgot, she did not attend dakota s party.
some of you clearly don't get the point. isn't it crazy how ellen CREATED a record label just so she could exploit him and make him into the next justin bieber??? greyson isn't "mad that his career flopped", he's just trying to expose what happened to him as a child star. and to be clear ellen didn't discover him, his paparazzi video already had like 50M views by the time he went on the show.
That interview he did with Rolling Stone really is in poor taste. The music business is a really tough business. There are far better singers/performers that have been plugging away for decades and have achieved less and without Ellen’s tutelage. I get his disappointment with her, but he’s not being fair - perhaps his expectations was too high.
She created that expectation with a kid. She is to blame. She profited and she said she was going to produce him but when he got a recording deal she dropped him. Ellen always profited from young RUclips sensations, she did the same with Charice Pempemco (who ended up becoming a trans man).
When he was just a regular teenager in school , she planted the whole "youll never live this life again" idea in him, she made it into we're in this together till the end just to make him sign with her label, to actually make a child and their family feel safe enough to change their lives and then drop them out of nowhere is such a messed up heartless thing to do, maybe if she wasnt toxic and didnt make a comprison between him and justin beiber then both would have benefited from the music industry all together , if she litrally did what she preaches on tv for people to do "be nice to one another" , things mightve actually benefited her and grayson .... I see her being a toxic gaslighting manpulative monster rather than him being ungrateful
@@pureffmGreyson is nothing but an entitled and ungrateful brat. She gave him a platform and tried to guide him towards stardom and _he refused_ Like Heidi Klum says about fasion - in music _one day youre in, and the next youre out_ Ellen never promoted herself as a superstar maker. People just don't go onto Ellen expecting her to turn them into one. But Ellen always gave her platform for people to be seen and heard Per Greyson, Ellen still gave him a platform, even after she stopped working with him. So he hates her, but still used her platform
So why did he go back on the show? He could’ve said no if he felt uncomfortable. I understand that he probably did it for attention, but then don’t come out later and say it was horrible, makes no sense.
Mmmm…I understand that’s his experience. However, I don’t believe that’s the whole truth. I believe that’s his truth. Ellen obviously rubs some people the wrong way, but not everyone. She sounds like someone who saw an opportunity to guide him and ultimately it didn’t work. I remember she tried to have a record label for a while during the idol years, but that fell apart. Doesn’t mean she’s a horrible person. Idk. It’s his story and he’s entitled to that. Just seems kind of incomplete.
the problem isn't ellen dropped him cause his sales tanked. the problem is the image she presents to the world is very different from how she is in person. she is cold and no where near as caring as she wants everyone to think. i think she does good but she is also a crappy person too.
I always wondered what happened to him, lmao i was thinking of that Paparazzi video a few days ago actually. I'm sorry he felt abandoned by Ellen. I wish he would have gave more examples on how she was "extremely controlling" though, he only gave 1 example,, which didnt seem that bad in my opinion.
Ungrateful guy and a fake person. If it really bothered you that much, than you wouldn’t have appeared on her show when you were an adult yourself and knew better. You were clearly trying to get something out of it. Use her to stay relevant or get something else out of appearing on the show. It shows your true colors more than it does hers, it shows who you are as a person and what you are capable of. Good luck in life and I hope your learn to stand on your own two feet. People don’t have to hold your hands forever, you need to do the work.
Sooo now you wanna play the blame game... I'm sure Ellen and everyone else in the world has their faults and flaws. But she did plenty to help and stay helping till it just wasnt there anymore just like any other music label does... smh
this is exactly what backstabbing looks like. he could have just stopped coming back to her show. wait a minute . was ellen impressed by his talent and wanted to make him a star ??? how despicable!
My god, how can people be so mean to Greyson in this comment section. He wants to stay relevant? His career didn't take over and is blaming her for that? No, it is not what he said. He felt she abandoned him and didn't care about him. Only when he was giving profit. Yes, his career didn't go well after a while, but she said she was going to be there for him. And she was not. She used him. He was a child/teenager. She could have been supportive. For what everyone says, Ellen is a fake person. And for a long time she was very influencial and to go against her it was extremely hard. Only when people came out and exposed her, things changed and others showed their side of the story. I think Greyson is an amazing person and truly an artist. He even went to college and tried to cope whith his struggles the best he could. He helps a lot of institutions and never sold himself for fame. Obviously, I don't know him personally, but he is being honest in my opinion and not to get attention. He is speaking the truth. Something most of us cannot do for most of our life.
This guy is just mad that he didn’t make it like Justin Bieber etc. Probably expected too much from being on Ellen’s show. I know people have been after Ellen’s way of treating her employees etc and who knows the actual truth here but this guy just seems like an opportunist trying to gain his other 15 mins of fame by trying to talk s*** about Ellen! Like move on dude.
I can definitely believe him. The way she showed no care about Anne Heche when first confronted by a reporter she was like oh I feel how I would feel about anyone else in that situation. She was your partner for years! That’s the true Ellen. The 2nd time she commented she was probably told to show some care.
Sour grapes from Greyson Chance, sorry have a seat when your career didn't catapult to the level you "think" you should be you want to denigrate the person who gave you your 1st opportunity. This is nothing new folks why did he sign with her record label? Has Ellen produce any musical albums in the past that proves she could get him to stardom? I don't think so if I am wrong someone let me know the facts. Folks out here if they can shred people's character without facts in the media to destroy their credibility the media will eat it up. Continue to stay strong Ellen, they try to do this to Oprah years ago on many levels and its a good thing Oprah knows who she is and her truth she is standing stronger than ever, Stay strong Ellen.
I don't believe this shit about Ellen DeGeneres of course she's domineering she's the boss! She's done so many things for people in her life I can't even take shit like this seriously! Do you know anything about signing contracts? They give the formula you follow it what's new lol!
It seems like Ellen was trying to be very hands on and truly believes in him to be successful. At the end of the day, this is a business relationship, just like work relationships, if you don’t perform, you will be let go. Obviously Ellen will then no longer spend time on him and onto other investments ventures. It seems like as a young person he’s expecting her to be his friend or companion, to keep encouraging him and provide unconditional love…I can understand at a young age that can be confused as to a professional business relationship. The relationship stops when the business ends…
I don't really think both parties are wrong, more like they have different views of what helping and giving a platform means. I don't doubt that Ellen is probably controlling and manipulative. But thats showbiz kid. Money has been pumped in and Ellen probably "steer"/manipulated him into an image that is most sellable. But all record management do that in general and all record companies tend to drop artist that are not making money. That unfortunately life. Probably from Greyson's point of view he wanted a relationship more like a nurturing mother-like mentor. I do get the disappointment and we really do not know what were there exact words Ellen maybe said to him and he felt that he could view their relationship like a close loving mother/teacher? I think Ellen did try and she handled it the way she feels its normal in entertainment. I guess its a learning experience. Well... at least he had the chance to be given a platform. This is something other aspiring talents can only dream of. I guess its a learning journey for him. I mean this guys is 25yrs old so lets see how things would be like 5years from now. All emotional experiences can be an opportunity to be turned from lemons into lemonade.
Sounds like he never grew up and has a lot of emotional issues with authority figures. He wanted her to be his mom and best friend. She gave him a platform. He admits to ignoring her advice on how to be successful and then he blames her for not being successful. And he has a new album which is even worse. He is using the Ellen backlash and joining in the bandwagon for personal publicity.
The only point he’s making is that Ellen really did her part (when she didn’t owe him anything) to boost his career and used her connections to make him a bigger star, but that didn’t really work out, so she dropped him. I think that’s just business as usual. You can’t just expect your producer, your label, and your manager to work for you, if you flop, sorry!! That is the truth and the truth hurts. You can’t expect Ellen to always treat you like a little boy that you were. The moment that you are signed under a label, you are a commodity, you are an artist to be sold.
This seems super petty. He’d have gone through school completely unknown without her. Sadly for him this happened before you could profit alone on insta or TikTok
Thousands of people out there, struggling for years, some whose window closed long ago, who have more talent than you, who will never get their chance, and never got the break you had at a young age, and now you wanna whine and complain and bite the hand that tried to help you? Waaaahhhh
Good for you man, Famous ppl are just ppl,we got to stop thinking they're more. Most ppl are manipulative by nature being famous does not make change,just increases the talent into success. All of us she stay alert and take care/bounce bake if we are taken for a ride. Plus there is more to life so know that.
huh? How does Ellen owe you anything? I think there was some confusion here and it was understandable because you WERE a kid that is where your parents should have protected you- NOT Ellen?
Billie ellish, Taylor swift and lady gaga didn't have the privilege to appear on TV first. They find their own success, they post their song online, they knocked on door, they sang at bar and restaurant. They write good songs, they sell their music and look where they are now. So ask yourself what have I done wrong with the opportunity I was given, not blaming other because your career is going nowhere?
So he got slapped in the face with the reality of showbiz and makes himself out to be a victim. I don't feel bad for him. She had him on her show several times and he made money from it but is complaining because she didn't become good friends with him? Fame is a facade and what you see on T.V. isn't what it appears to be. Ellen is a talk show whose literal job is to be engaging and charismatic to her guest and the viewers, when not on stage she is not going to be the same person, I don't know what he expected. It's a cut-throat opportunist business where you have to be strong mentally and not make everything personal
I’m not saying he’s lying or she’s lying, I’m not on one side vs that side all I’m going to say is, some times in life people do, say and act really shitty and treat other horrible and the behavior goes on for years and years and nobody calls them out on it bc they fear they will lose something in their life, ie friendship, job, contacts etc… and that’s horrible and a horrible way to feel. This is why I wholeheartedly believe that people of “privilege” whether that be celebrities, politicians, Entrepreneurs, rich people, “people in or of power” etc… should be called out on this behavior the very first time and told it’s not ok and will not in any way be accepted or tolerated, I know it’s easier said than done and yes in a perfect world, it this is why people continue to act like they do because it’s not stopped. As for Ellen and any one else who has been accused of similar behaviors( which I try to stay neutral bc I wasn’t there) if you’re truly sorry and want to change and do and be better, it will not happen overnight, it will take work and you may suffer the Consequences in your life and in your circle of friends, colleagues, job industry etc… but you can get it back if you’re willing to do the hard work bc it won’t happen overnight. Just work hard and do and be better, and Ellen, bc this video is after all about you, so and be what you preach.. BE KIND! I’m not trying to sound naive but I just want positivity and uplifting happening in this world bc there’s just too much ugly and hate and I want to be apart of uplifting people rather than tearing anyone down. Hope everyone and their families and friends are doing well and have the happiest of holidays and the healthiest New Year!!
RIAA certifications of Ellen discoveries: Grayson Chance: ZERO Charlie Puth: 26 million as a main artist plus 15 million as a featured artist. The above totals do not include Puth's foreign certifications, which total 20 million-plus.
Some just never find that quality to connect with the audience. write those songs yourself and make your compositions and keep pitching it directly to your audience. be open to collaborating, but never give your creative control to anyone, keep as much as you can.
The negative comments are bothering if it was a straight white girl who made this claim everyone would be like oh you're brave for speaking out but the fact of the matter is greyson was a child at the time he trusted her he had faith and being signed with her and then she completely abandoned him because he couldn't make her more money and tried to market him as the next JB and he's no where near Bieber he's much more talented
First heard of this drama a a month or few ago… not surprised Rolling Stone had a hand in stirring the pot again… poor reflection on ET as well, just lay off Ellen & stop further manipulating the dude as well
I love how people here are taking this whole angle like "Oh so hes blaming her for his lack of success?" This is what happens when someone has the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader. Thats not what he was trying to say. He was basically saying she was extremely manipulative, and basically wanted him to be like Bieber. I remember seeing him ages ago and how he had his hair cut like Bieber. Also Ellen introduced him to Bieber and I always found that highly strange...like she wanted him to be her Justin Bieber or some weird shit. Its obvious she was probably super toxic trying to force him to change into someone he's not. She didnt support him as one should support an artist and made his time hell. Its also clear that when she did drop him, she picked him back up when he "came out" to act like they were all good again. Some of yall are stupid af. Thats all he's saying. I just critique one thing...why he would go back on the show
The irony? When Megan Fox read Ellen's natal chart she said those exact words.... "Bossy and Controlling." Ellen wasn't too happy. See the video below. ruclips.net/video/-vCC_c-1ikw/видео.html
km Times are Tough! YOU NEED JESUS TO GET THRU THIS!!! He said He will never leave us, nor forsake us. I never would have made it without Jesus!! John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
I can’t believe there’s so many people on Ellen’s side after the shit she’s done to her staff and others, not just Grayson. He was fucking 12, he didn’t have some ulterior motives unlike Ellen who just wanted to mold him into the next Justin Bieber.
Seeing a lot of people kind of brush this off as "oh yeah that's entertainment business and Hollywood." Try to imagine yourself as a 12 year old, creating an incredible foundational relationship with an icon, going through so many adult processes when you're 12, still figuring out who you are as a person let alone an artist, then getting dropped and that role model, the person who said they would be there for you and you'd do it together, won't even pick up the phone. None of this is about a flopped album, it's about being a decent human being. I've worked with Greyson a couple times, not having known him before, and he is an incredibly down-to-earth, talented and above all HUMBLE person. He'd eat lunch with the crew and shoot the shit every single day. I believe everything Greyson says, and the only thing to learn from this is that growing up is a pain in the ass already, to have someone who you counted on shut you out is adding insult to injury. I'm glad Greyson persevered because Palladium is a gem.
You have a very valid perspective having worked with Greyson. I think you made some very valid points.
you do not know if he was persistent with the phonecalls
What kind of "decent human being" uses someone's platform to get exposure, then talks shit about them after?
Per Greyson, he failed because he refused to listen to Ellen's guidance. And per Greyson, Ellen still gave him a platform, even after they stopped working together
So even though he was a brat and didnt listen to her, she was still being a decent human being and providing him exposure. And even though he hated her, he still went on her show to promote himself. Talk about being ungrateful
@@Eeluonagree 1000 percent;!! thank you for we tthis so I didn't have to
He's a fucking brat. Did his mom or no other adult not explain to him that Ellen is trying to make both of them money. Yeah kid watch the fucking DVD. Listen to Ellen. Make fucking money.
My label dropped me because my sales sucked. Uh duh
I'm not totally following what happened that was so bad..he wasn't successful, people get dropped all the time. She still brought him on the show as he got older and yet he only credits himself and shows utter ingratitude to her for that..nobody owed you anything dude!
Ellen can do business with him and book him on her show AND be a manipulative, controlling, domineering person. It’s not mutually exclusive
Yeah this has nothing to do with him being successful or not. He's speaking about her character.
You don't know what's so bad about her being manipulative and controlling?
@@nobleone89 if someone is going to make public accusations, they should be specific not just make these general vague claims over and over. He is the one left looking bad to attack a likeable figure when all he has to say is that he felt abandoned that she dropped him and that she allegedly "berated" his mom for not doing something she asked them to do after signing them. And it is ridiculous for him to go on her show to be interviewed e.g. about coming out, and then say why would she do that and pretend we were on good terms when behind the scenes we weren't? It's a SHOW. Why did HE do it in the first place, then turn around and act like the victim. Celebs and people in general can be difficult, especially if you're trying to make it in Hollywood, that doesn't make it ok for people to just attack them like this especially without backing it up. Life is hard, people are hard, and this generation is full of entitled whiners who do not grasp this reality and are upset that people and life are not more perfecg and easy
She is using Wllen to stay relevant
? If she did him so bad why did he go back on her show several times!?!?
He was probably coping and trying to put it behind him, but it didn't work, it's normal human behavior
@@codydang To keep interacting with the person that you think is manipulative is a form of coping? Honest ?
@@AsMaineTheOrijinalGeisha yeah. it always seems simple, but the human element makes it hard. Same thing with people who want to lose weight, people always say “just stop eating,” “just quit smoking,” etc. But things like relationships have many factors. For example, many people in Greyson’s life keep telling him to be grateful for Ellen and that it’s normal to be treated that way. Now he’s grown and can speak for himself more.
i just watched on his channel under the video "i owe it all to myself" he explains why he continued to go on the show then why he declined to be on show for the closing season.
if you care give it a watch, its only 3 minutes
@@codydang Thank you for your response I understand more now! ☺️
I think Greyson has potential. Unfortunately, success in the entertainment industry is incredibly rare and never guaranteed. He needs to accept that his career flopped, just like countless other artists. All I got from his Rolling Stone interview is that Ellen DID in fact work around the clock to try and make him a star. She owed him nothing and yet she still worked hard in hopes of making him successful. Many artists have signed with agents, managers, and labels who often shelve their artists and don't even give them the time of day. At least Ellen tried.
I completely agree. I’m no fan of Ellen at all but it just seems that he’s grasping at anything that he thinks will give some attention in hopes of becoming relevant. He wasn’t complaining when he appeared on her show over 12 times…. SMH
I completely agree. I’m no fan of Ellen at all but it just seems that he’s grasping at anything that he thinks will give some attention in hopes of becoming relevant. He wasn’t complaining when he appeared on her show over 12 times…. SMH
Exactly! Would ANYONE know who he was If Ellen hadn’t given him a platform for people to see him and hear his music?? It’s not her fault of his music and career didn’t take off. He needs to take some accountability for what he could have done differently too.
I tried saying something similar on another video and someone tried telling me he was a child and that it was basically all ellen's fault. Smh. He needs to just take accountability for himself and let it go. As far as ellen goes people can say whatever they want about her and have the right to feel the way they do but despite it all she has done alot of good over the last decade or two and I think just because she's made some mistakes shouldn't destroy all the positive things she's done for others.
@@itsthespiceoflife workers that work with her too say she is a bitch! There is nothing new to it
I don’t see what everyone is seeing. It just sounds like he reflected on being in the industry and basically confirmed that Ellen isn’t the person she claims she is. He understands now how maybe unhealthy the music industry was and how demanding it was beyond what he could handle at the time. Doesn’t sound entitled to me.
I get that ellen its an awful.person but its not her fault his career didnt took of she gave him.a spotlight he was just not lucky enough 2 make it big
His record sales dropped. He was signed with Ellen's record label and she withdrew her support after his sales dropped.
So basically Ellen is like every other music producer, wants you to be like other successful stars, and when you start doing bad they decide to not continue with you. He sounds like he wants to blame everyone else for him failing.
He did very well for himself and continues to do so.
Try reading above a 3rd grade level. That's not what this is.
a record label is not going to invest money on an artist that's not releasing HITS ! it's all about the HIT ! Ellen should of signed him to a kids show in nickelodeon......
Ellens production company has several failed tv shows and a game show used for humiliating people got cancelled as well. Her “stand up” failed as well. Only her name got her a spot on Netflix. She’s not funny at all
Exactly record labels drop you if you don’t do well a lot of folks need to learn how the music industry works it sounds like he is on the train for blaming Ellen
Guess what? Very few people "make it" in show business. She gave you all she could & it didn't work out. You got more support & things than many of us ever got. It's random chance, period. Ellen was hella busy with all the things, and she's not your mother.
I'm just finding out she has a record label????
I can't believe I'm siding with the multimillionaire, but it sounds like he's a bit self-entitled and had unrealistic expectations of what she was supposed to do for him. Honestly, it sounds like she went above and beyond what would have been reasonably expected of her, but her promoting him can't guarantee him success.
Seeing a lot of comments about Greyson's career flopping.. tf? In fact, he's doing better than ever. Became a huge fan of his, three albums ago, when he was finally in full control. Portraits, Trophies and now Palladium are some of my top favourite albums. Excited to see what future holds for him.
I don’t know her must be a white thing
This honestly sounds like a non-story. I'm no fan of Ellen, I find her annoying, but what she did is no more manipulative than any Hollywood agent or manager. In entertainment you're hot one minute and forgotten the next. Everyone wants to be involved in your success when you're on the up and will divert their attention and energy elsewhere when your star is on the wane. At least there were several appearances on her show and as for the Justin Bieber thing; it makes sense that she'd suggest that route and use Bieber as a template given his insane popularity, at least as an in. When Mariah Carey first came out they fashioned her on Whitney Houston. A couple of years later, Mariah was known for being Mariah.
Sorry but the fact he continued to go on her show tells me everything I need to know about the situation. Ellen isn't perfect but none of us are and whether people want to accept it or not she has done alot of good.. He sounds like he needs to take accountability for himself and move on.
yo. y'all are living in a delusion. you haven't met ellen. you're making that clear. she's a deplorable human. it's crazy that so many people can agree that something is factual, while someone who has no experience in it can confidently say it's false or irrelevant. this woman is scumb×g human.
Sounds like he's doing just that. And his story of Ellen being somewhat toxic and not as genuine isn't the first and won't be the last
If he signed a contract to her record label It’s more then likely in his contract that he had to be on the show at her request doubt he wanted to be there or his own free will .
Funny how people have forgotten the good things Ellen did and the lives she changed through her show. Smh
True
Yeah. She gave a lot of people a platform. That's good enough of a start. It's up to them what they do next. They can't just blame Ellen if they didn't make it big.
Exactly
she literally sided with companies and changed the lives of hundreds if not thousands. she changed the lives of students and communities and people want to listen that she did not say hello to staffers. the toxic environment is indeed a serious issue, but I guess that her executives failed to do their job. she is to blame too, but she did not rape, bully, harass anyone. oh, yes ,I forgot, she did not attend dakota s party.
Very bad Rita but: IT IS WHAT IT IS:;"'.,
Sometimes saying nothing is just better.
True that is what he should have done said nothing...
tf
Agree it's such a non story. If he's "So past it" why bring it up
Not for the “love yourself” generation
some of you clearly don't get the point. isn't it crazy how ellen CREATED a record label just so she could exploit him and make him into the next justin bieber??? greyson isn't "mad that his career flopped", he's just trying to expose what happened to him as a child star. and to be clear ellen didn't discover him, his paparazzi video already had like 50M views by the time he went on the show.
He wasnt a star
He was and is Very Talented!!! His talent, voice, and appeal are next level!! 👑
🙄🙄🙄
No talent no star quality and Def no looks..he is just a regular guy
That interview he did with Rolling Stone really is in poor taste. The music business is a really tough business. There are far better singers/performers that have been plugging away for decades and have achieved less and without Ellen’s tutelage. I get his disappointment with her, but he’s not being fair - perhaps his expectations was too high.
She created that expectation with a kid. She is to blame. She profited and she said she was going to produce him but when he got a recording deal she dropped him. Ellen always profited from young RUclips sensations, she did the same with Charice Pempemco (who ended up becoming a trans man).
When he was just a regular teenager in school , she planted the whole "youll never live this life again" idea in him, she made it into we're in this together till the end just to make him sign with her label, to actually make a child and their family feel safe enough to change their lives and then drop them out of nowhere is such a messed up heartless thing to do, maybe if she wasnt toxic and didnt make a comprison between him and justin beiber then both would have benefited from the music industry all together , if she litrally did what she preaches on tv for people to do "be nice to one another" , things mightve actually benefited her and grayson .... I see her being a toxic gaslighting manpulative monster rather than him being ungrateful
@@pureffmGreyson is nothing but an entitled and ungrateful brat. She gave him a platform and tried to guide him towards stardom and _he refused_
Like Heidi Klum says about fasion - in music _one day youre in, and the next youre out_
Ellen never promoted herself as a superstar maker. People just don't go onto Ellen expecting her to turn them into one. But Ellen always gave her platform for people to be seen and heard
Per Greyson, Ellen still gave him a platform, even after she stopped working with him. So he hates her, but still used her platform
So why did he go back on the show? He could’ve said no if he felt uncomfortable. I understand that he probably did it for attention, but then don’t come out later and say it was horrible, makes no sense.
A lot of our faves have been dropped from labels that’s how the music industry works 🤷🏽♂️
Mmmm…I understand that’s his experience. However, I don’t believe that’s the whole truth. I believe that’s his truth. Ellen obviously rubs some people the wrong way, but not everyone. She sounds like someone who saw an opportunity to guide him and ultimately it didn’t work. I remember she tried to have a record label for a while during the idol years, but that fell apart. Doesn’t mean she’s a horrible person. Idk. It’s his story and he’s entitled to that. Just seems kind of incomplete.
It’s sad to see All this claims about Ellen. He sounds ungrateful and a lil bitter!!
the problem isn't ellen dropped him cause his sales tanked. the problem is the image she presents to the world is very different from how she is in person. she is cold and no where near as caring as she wants everyone to think. i think she does good but she is also a crappy person too.
He is now more of an actor than a singer！This time, I believe in Ellen and her team☺️
Nahhh I believe him and his mother and Gaga.
coz ur a fanatic. see the truth
I always wondered what happened to him, lmao i was thinking of that Paparazzi video a few days ago actually.
I'm sorry he felt abandoned by Ellen. I wish he would have gave more examples on how she was "extremely controlling" though, he only gave 1 example,, which didnt seem that bad in my opinion.
Makes no sense to calling out Ellen. She helped him by signing him on, the negativity isn’t going to be good for him.
What is the purpose of saying this now?
To tell his truth. It doesn’t matter when he told it.
1:55 which speaks volumes of his integrity
Ungrateful guy and a fake person. If it really bothered you that much, than you wouldn’t have appeared on her show when you were an adult yourself and knew better. You were clearly trying to get something out of it. Use her to stay relevant or get something else out of appearing on the show. It shows your true colors more than it does hers, it shows who you are as a person and what you are capable of. Good luck in life and I hope your learn to stand on your own two feet. People don’t have to hold your hands forever, you need to do the work.
Ummm, then why did he keep going on her show
My support is on your side chance! Her evilness needs to end.
He sang someone else's song. Not his. No originality. Can't piggy back forever.
"Ellen, I want to unfriend you!!!"
wouldve been sooo different if she just let him shine and succeed 🤦🏻♀️
Sooo now you wanna play the blame game... I'm sure Ellen and everyone else in the world has their faults and flaws. But she did plenty to help and stay helping till it just wasnt there anymore just like any other music label does... smh
Dont think you should be blaming someone else for a career flop..this is the music industry after all.
this is exactly what backstabbing looks like. he could have just stopped coming back to her show. wait a minute . was ellen impressed by his talent and wanted to make him a star ??? how despicable!
What does Ellen has to say about that?
He had that one really good album. Honestly good for him getting on her.
No, it makes gay people appear as forever children who blame others for their failures. He needs to grow up.
@@igloozoo3771 tf? Ellen is gay too. What does being gay have to do with this? You sound homophobic, and seem problematic.
@@alos4025 I am gay. If he chooses to come out and represent gay people then he shouldn't cry and blame others for his own failures for success.
Ellen gets called out for bullying, probably just doing her job . Being boss. she is the real victim here from all these trolls .
My god, how can people be so mean to Greyson in this comment section. He wants to stay relevant? His career didn't take over and is blaming her for that? No, it is not what he said. He felt she abandoned him and didn't care about him. Only when he was giving profit. Yes, his career didn't go well after a while, but she said she was going to be there for him. And she was not. She used him. He was a child/teenager. She could have been supportive. For what everyone says, Ellen is a fake person. And for a long time she was very influencial and to go against her it was extremely hard. Only when people came out and exposed her, things changed and others showed their side of the story. I think Greyson is an amazing person and truly an artist. He even went to college and tried to cope whith his struggles the best he could. He helps a lot of institutions and never sold himself for fame. Obviously, I don't know him personally, but he is being honest in my opinion and not to get attention. He is speaking the truth. Something most of us cannot do for most of our life.
I didn't even know Ellen had a record label but Ellen didn't do anything that other record labels it seems like she tried her best to make him a star
This guy is just mad that he didn’t make it like Justin Bieber etc. Probably expected too much from being on Ellen’s show. I know people have been after Ellen’s way of treating her employees etc and who knows the actual truth here but this guy just seems like an opportunist trying to gain his other 15 mins of fame by trying to talk s*** about Ellen! Like move on dude.
She’s a business woman, you need to grow up
I can definitely believe him. The way she showed no care about Anne Heche when first confronted by a reporter she was like oh I feel how I would feel about anyone else in that situation. She was your partner for years! That’s the true Ellen. The 2nd time she commented she was probably told to show some care.
Heche talked a lot of trash against Ellen. There’s no proof anything said is true. Heche isn’t a reliable source.
All this stuff is he said she said.
BTW he has a new album he want to promote
You aren't alone in your opinion.
Are we adding her to the MARKLE no SPARKLE list? Sounds like it.
So she continued to try and give him a platform even though he wasn’t selling albums or tickets. He’s pretty ungrateful.
Sour grapes from Greyson Chance, sorry have a seat when your career didn't catapult to the level you "think" you should be you want to denigrate the person who gave you your 1st opportunity. This is nothing new folks why did he sign with her record label? Has Ellen produce any musical albums in the past that proves she could get him to stardom? I don't think so if I am wrong someone let me know the facts. Folks out here if they can shred people's character without facts in the media to destroy their credibility the media will eat it up. Continue to stay strong Ellen, they try to do this to Oprah years ago on many levels and its a good thing Oprah knows who she is and her truth she is standing stronger than ever, Stay strong Ellen.
I don't believe this shit about Ellen DeGeneres of course she's domineering she's the boss! She's done so many things for people in her life I can't even take shit like this seriously! Do you know anything about signing contracts? They give the formula you follow it what's new lol!
Not a fan of Ellen, but he seems ungrateful.
It seems like Ellen was trying to be very hands on and truly believes in him to be successful. At the end of the day, this is a business relationship, just like work relationships, if you don’t perform, you will be let go. Obviously Ellen will then no longer spend time on him and onto other investments ventures. It seems like as a young person he’s expecting her to be his friend or companion, to keep encouraging him and provide unconditional love…I can understand at a young age that can be confused as to a professional business relationship. The relationship stops when the business ends…
I’m not successful it’s someone else’s fault. Would you be calling out Ellen if you were selling music by the millions? I think not
I don't really think both parties are wrong, more like they have different views of what helping and giving a platform means. I don't doubt that Ellen is probably controlling and manipulative. But thats showbiz kid. Money has been pumped in and Ellen probably "steer"/manipulated him into an image that is most sellable. But all record management do that in general and all record companies tend to drop artist that are not making money. That unfortunately life. Probably from Greyson's point of view he wanted a relationship more like a nurturing mother-like mentor. I do get the disappointment and we really do not know what were there exact words Ellen maybe said to him and he felt that he could view their relationship like a close loving mother/teacher? I think Ellen did try and she handled it the way she feels its normal in entertainment. I guess its a learning experience. Well... at least he had the chance to be given a platform. This is something other aspiring talents can only dream of. I guess its a learning journey for him. I mean this guys is 25yrs old so lets see how things would be like 5years from now. All emotional experiences can be an opportunity to be turned from lemons into lemonade.
Sounds like he never grew up and has a lot of emotional issues with authority figures. He wanted her to be his mom and best friend. She gave him a platform. He admits to ignoring her advice on how to be successful and then he blames her for not being successful. And he has a new album which is even worse. He is using the Ellen backlash and joining in the bandwagon for personal publicity.
I agree he had a good voice but that rendition of Paparazzi I found so annoying 😆
Honestly? Yeah, Ellen does suck but something about this seems off. It’s not a good look, man.
Dang! I can’t believe Ellen treated Greyson like that!
She continued to give him air time…. I don’t get it. She did him a huge favor and put him in front of her audience. It’s entitlement.
The only point he’s making is that Ellen really did her part (when she didn’t owe him anything) to boost his career and used her connections to make him a bigger star, but that didn’t really work out, so she dropped him. I think that’s just business as usual. You can’t just expect your producer, your label, and your manager to work for you, if you flop, sorry!! That is the truth and the truth hurts. You can’t expect Ellen to always treat you like a little boy that you were. The moment that you are signed under a label, you are a commodity, you are an artist to be sold.
it's sad cause he has a beautiful voice
Typical entitled millennial. She gave you your 15 mins of fame. She didn't have to do even that.
what is this guy moaning about. he should put the work in not blame Ellen.
This seems super petty. He’d have gone through school completely unknown without her. Sadly for him this happened before you could profit alone on insta or TikTok
we all knew Ellen was already like this! Many people have said the same thing
why talk about it now? why did he wait for so long?
Not surprised Ellen has always been that way ,and extremely rude. Im not all surprised that so many of her friends didn't show up for her final shows.
Ya right like I am sure you know Ellen so well and can claim she has always been that way. Give me a break…
So, you're one of the people who refused to appear on her last season? !🤣🤣
I don’t like Ellen but seeing how whiny is now kinda ruined the original video for me.
All these gays fighting each other lol
Thousands of people out there, struggling for years, some whose window closed long ago, who have more talent than you, who will never get their chance, and never got the break you had at a young age, and now you wanna whine and complain and bite the hand that tried to help you? Waaaahhhh
Where was his parents ?
Good for you man, Famous ppl are just ppl,we got to stop thinking they're more. Most ppl are manipulative by nature being famous does not make change,just increases the talent into success. All of us she stay alert and take care/bounce bake if we are taken for a ride. Plus there is more to life so know that.
Much appreciation, but you’re a little late to the party friend.
huh? How does Ellen owe you anything? I think there was some confusion here and it was understandable because you WERE a kid that is where your parents should have protected you- NOT Ellen?
Kid that didn't make it to stardom just blaming it on some1 else who's already got dirt on her name so that he can profit and be relevant.
I loved this kid in raising hope!!
wait since when did ellen have a record company
I'm still confused 🤔
Billie ellish, Taylor swift and lady gaga didn't have the privilege to appear on TV first. They find their own success, they post their song online, they knocked on door, they sang at bar and restaurant. They write good songs, they sell their music and look where they are now. So ask yourself what have I done wrong with the opportunity I was given, not blaming other because your career is going nowhere?
Who would have guessed?
Guess he needs money and he's career isn't going as well as he wanted it too.
12 years AGO 💀 LMFAOOO GET OVER IT
So he got slapped in the face with the reality of showbiz and makes himself out to be a victim. I don't feel bad for him. She had him on her show several times and he made money from it but is complaining because she didn't become good friends with him? Fame is a facade and what you see on T.V. isn't what it appears to be. Ellen is a talk show whose literal job is to be engaging and charismatic to her guest and the viewers, when not on stage she is not going to be the same person, I don't know what he expected. It's a cut-throat opportunist business where you have to be strong mentally and not make everything personal
Frankly a little stunned ... serious disconnect here 🤔😮
Ellen is great, she gives people platform to shit on her. Why people want charity out of a business woman.
I’m not saying he’s lying or she’s lying, I’m not on one side vs that side all I’m going to say is, some times in life people do, say and act really shitty and treat other horrible and the behavior goes on for years and years and nobody calls them out on it bc they fear they will lose something in their life, ie friendship, job, contacts etc… and that’s horrible and a horrible way to feel. This is why I wholeheartedly believe that people of “privilege” whether that be celebrities, politicians, Entrepreneurs, rich people, “people in or of power” etc… should be called out on this behavior the very first time and told it’s not ok and will not in any way be accepted or tolerated, I know it’s easier said than done and yes in a perfect world, it this is why people continue to act like they do because it’s not stopped. As for Ellen and any one else who has been accused of similar behaviors( which I try to stay neutral bc I wasn’t there) if you’re truly sorry and want to change and do and be better, it will not happen overnight, it will take work and you may suffer the Consequences in your life and in your circle of friends, colleagues, job industry etc… but you can get it back if you’re willing to do the hard work bc it won’t happen overnight. Just work hard and do and be better, and Ellen, bc this video is after all about you, so and be what you preach.. BE KIND! I’m not trying to sound naive but I just want positivity and uplifting happening in this world bc there’s just too much ugly and hate and I want to be apart of uplifting people rather than tearing anyone down. Hope everyone and their families and friends are doing well and have the happiest of holidays and the healthiest New Year!!
Ellen : let me give you some advice
Chance : leave me alone you stupid billionaire , stop all the attention
RIAA certifications of Ellen discoveries:
Grayson Chance: ZERO
Charlie Puth: 26 million as a main artist plus 15 million as a featured artist.
The above totals do not include Puth's foreign certifications, which total 20 million-plus.
That’s show biz
Some just never find that quality to connect with the audience.
write those songs yourself and make your compositions and keep pitching it directly to your audience.
be open to collaborating, but never give your creative control to anyone, keep as much as you can.
The negative comments are bothering if it was a straight white girl who made this claim everyone would be like oh you're brave for speaking out but the fact of the matter is greyson was a child at the time he trusted her he had faith and being signed with her and then she completely abandoned him because he couldn't make her more money and tried to market him as the next JB and he's no where near Bieber he's much more talented
First heard of this drama a a month or few ago… not surprised Rolling Stone had a hand in stirring the pot again… poor reflection on ET as well, just lay off Ellen & stop further manipulating the dude as well
I love how people here are taking this whole angle like "Oh so hes blaming her for his lack of success?" This is what happens when someone has the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader. Thats not what he was trying to say. He was basically saying she was extremely manipulative, and basically wanted him to be like Bieber. I remember seeing him ages ago and how he had his hair cut like Bieber. Also Ellen introduced him to Bieber and I always found that highly strange...like she wanted him to be her Justin Bieber or some weird shit. Its obvious she was probably super toxic trying to force him to change into someone he's not. She didnt support him as one should support an artist and made his time hell. Its also clear that when she did drop him, she picked him back up when he "came out" to act like they were all good again. Some of yall are stupid af. Thats all he's saying. I just critique one thing...why he would go back on the show
She really tried making him a new Justin Bieber
The irony?
When Megan Fox read Ellen's natal chart she said those exact words....
"Bossy and Controlling."
Ellen wasn't too happy.
See the video below.
ruclips.net/video/-vCC_c-1ikw/видео.html
He’s really the user and a loser of the situation.
He’s the worst kind of self entitled entertainer wannabe.
How?
km Times are Tough! YOU NEED JESUS TO GET THRU THIS!!! He said He will never leave us, nor forsake us. I never would have made it without Jesus!! John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Two sides to every story
I can’t believe there’s so many people on Ellen’s side after the shit she’s done to her staff and others, not just Grayson. He was fucking 12, he didn’t have some ulterior motives unlike Ellen who just wanted to mold him into the next Justin Bieber.