Mitsubishi Evo X MR SST vs Manual 5-Speed GSR. Which Should You Buy?
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Evo X MR SST Dual Clutch vs GSR 5-Speed Manual. Which one should you buy?
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I bought my 1st ///MR in 2008...I had to let it go when I lost my job...I bought the last 2014 ///MR (fully loaded) with RECAROS...till this day...it puts a smile on my face when getting inside and driving it...I enjoy the paddle shifting so much...it is so accurate and FAAASSST!! It is my baby so I only drive it from time to time and only have 2,500 miles actually a little less LOL!
EVOS just loves to hug the road man! Super glued like it's on a railroad track! 😊
Thats awesome and exactly why I wanted a 2014!
Got my evo x MR 1 year ago here in Australia and use it as my daily. Love it could be a monster in the mountains or a nice ride when Im in the traffic
Yeah definitely my first choice for a new daily
I've got a sst in my x been running 415whp for 8 years now no problem with gearbox just get oil and filter changed every 9k
Yeah I have no fears of owning another one. Good to hear people are doing it! Would love to ride in a modded MR X I bet it’s a blast
@@willsanders187 mine is the uk fq version bought her new 10 years ago where does time go lol
Every 9k ?!
I think he meant trans oil
I concur with Will's statements, RE: MR vs GSR. Those who say the MR is inferior really don't know much about the SST at all. First off, yes, it is "easier" to drive because you don't have to relegate one hand to a shift knob upon each shift. HOWEVER, to properly drive an MR means shifting through all 6 gears. Important note that everyone knows by now: *6 gears* versus 5! I never drive in Normal or Sport mode, and in fact, Kozmic Motorsports (the one shop that truly specializes in TC-SST upgrades) recommends that you never drive in anything but S-Sport due to premature clutch wear in the other two modes. And, mind you, shifting in S-Sport actually increases throttle response as the mode does have their own maps, accessible via the learn-in procedure with the MUT tool. This is also the case if you manually shift in S-Sport, and you will immediately notice the difference when comparing between the N, S, and S-S drive modes, whether you shift manually or automatically.
On the usual criticisms of the SST: there are TONS of things you can do to upgrade that SST to address many of the issues identified earlier-on when the SST was first released (temps, clutch wear, limitations on upgrades due to tq cap, etc.) In fact, Kozmic builds customer cars to beyond 800+hp, daily driven reliably. (And no, I'm not getting paid to say that.)
I have two Evo Xs: a 5-speed FE and MR-SST. I enjoy the SST more as I get to focus on my driving than having to figure in shifts, rev-matching, clutch, brake boosting, etc. It truly is a different beast - but in a good way. Best of all, once you're in boost, you're ALWAYS in boost thanks to not having to clutch-shift. And that's regardless of whether you're using letting the TCU do the shifting, or using the paddle shifters yourself.
A few final things to consider: as Will says, maintenance on the SST is costlier than on an M/T. You have to figure in A/T fluid changes and clutch replacements pretty much require A/T teardown service as access to the clutch packs requires disassembly of the housing itself. Finally, for those who do care about creature comforts, the MR has slight perks you don't find in a late-model GSR or USDM FE: a sunroof, sill plates, BBS wheels, standard 10" subwoofer + premium Fosgate audio, and softer Bilsteins. (I say USDM FE since the Canadian FEs are built like an MR, with the added bonus of gold-centercap BBS'. And, of course, CA FEs still have Recaros :) )
I say: don't knock it 'til you drive it. In many ways, I wish that all my cars have a TC transmission now. Having two similar Evos with two different transmissions makes for really having two different cars. Both handle exceptionally well, and both look awesome. In truth, driving the MR doesn't make me less "connected" to the car. If anything, it spoils you.
Sheesh this was extremely detailed but I love it!
@@willsanders187 Thanks, Will - love your videos! 😄
holy shit
I'm thinking of selling my 2014 EVO X ///MR with only 2,500 miles...I don't know now 🤔
@@lbcitylacounty4982 I wouldn't. Why would you? 😁
Unless of course it's for financial reasons.
how much hp can sst handle? my goals is to make it stable daily drivenable not too fast but enough power to weight ratio
Keep up the good work
I have a 2011 MR, but not a German Shepard. 👍👍👍
Your batting .500
Great video thank you!!!
Looking for ralliart hope I get one day
Don’t hope. Plan.
What about the Ralliart I'm about to sell my Gts 5spd boosted and i can tell is horrible to drive in Boston on rush hour is more than 1 hour bumper to bumper is not fun that's why I'm getting a Ralliart 14 there wicked nice cars same Engine and transmission as the MR and has the AWD of the Evo 9 also less weight and can do the same power as a Evo which is amazing Greetings
Everyone keeps asking me about Ralliarts and I just don’t have any experience so I don’t want to give just an opinion without experience.
@@willsanders187 well ask a Ralliart guy around ur area to tell u about it (a professional one ) or RA Revolution group I'm telling you there a hidden Gem
Ha I know I’ve been checking cars for sale locally looking for a good one to test drive. I don’t want my first experience in a beat up one
Great video - a real help for drivers looking to make that choice. Thanks for sharing!
No problem! You read the rumor mill today. Evo 11?
I bought a Mitsubishi Lancer Es CVT and really regret it ! It’s trash I want to trade it in at a dealership for a evo
I’ve always wanted an evo but I had lost my car and needed one ASAP and I got the thing closest to the look of one and that was the worst thing I ever did in my life ! I want to mod it up but I’m sure the CVT transmission won’t be able stand all the horse power
Yeah, Lancer and Evo only share a partial name and a similar unibody
will sanders only down fall with the new Lancer models is they’re terrible with the new CVT
try looking for a Ralliart instead, too, as an alternative. 😉
A manual is never inconvenient. If having to shift is interfering with your ability to eat or text and drive you need to re-evalute your life. And unless you’re driving a Hellcat if your leg gets tired in traffic you need to see the gym (and that’s an understatement). My wife dailies manuals in Denver, you should too.
DCT are fun but they get stale fast. I just want to hear from 8/9 owners who went to the X if going 6MT to 5MT drove them crazy. I got the new WRX because I couldn’t stand the idea of going 6MT to a 5 speed, but everytime I see an Evo I question my life decisions.
A 6MT 4G63 X would have been such a no-brainer..
I owned an 8 and 10 MR at the same time. I still like the SST
I just went from an 8GSR go an XMR.
The MR is no where near as fun to drive. However in traffic it's really not even something that can be compared. I simply started to hate the 8 due to the commute. Where as the XMR is just amazing to drive in traffic.
That being said the 8 is now under a car cover and will come out on weekends which really is how an Evo should be used. 👍
SELLING: Have an Evo X MR Silver/Metallic 120,000 miles. Good Condition. But the AYC/ACD hydraulic pump is out on it right now. If you’re in the south GA area.
Love the car, but pricey to maintain it.
currently in the process of buying a ralliart sportback with the SST. it is being worked on and the transmission had issues that are now resolved. I am getting a great deal on it trading my 2014 lancer SE for it. Im taking a hit on the miles (10k more) and the year (2010) but it seems well kept and Im getting a warranty on the drive train and the trans. My question is reliability, ive heard bad things and that they are expensive to replace etc. Did you have ANY problems while you owned your MR? plus this will be my daily so any thoughts on mileage or not putting premium in it. Thank you.
Grant Fisher it’s a great trans bro, it’s fun and you’ll tbh love it regardless if you like stick too. The ONLY problem you’ll have with it is if you’re pushing over 400, I have a big turbo mr and my trans couldn’t hold it nor keep up so I’m currently am getting a built tranny, it’s expensive/ tedious process but worth it when it’s done. If you plan on just doing minor mods like exhaust and cold air you’ll be fine, it’s a super fun trans
Yeah I plan on making it my own as it is bone stock and doing minor bolt on so just rims tires and definitely a new spoiler as it's just gonna have to be my all around daily/show car/meet. So reliability is the highest priority but thank you it's nice hearing from owners not just people mad at their cars breaking in forums haha
I didn’t have any issues but I only owned it about a year. Also, while it might be the same trans as the Evo I’m not sure if it is
@@willsanders187 is the same DCT470
You'll need to put 92/93 RON gas in it. Don't make the mistake of putting less than premium as you're going to put the engine at risk for premie detonation.
As for the DCT470, the only advice I can give you is... TRUST THE FEW shops who can actually work on it. Do NOT expect your local Jiffy Lube to know what the hell to do with it.
The transmission is fantastic, though it's geared for performance. I mean, yes people just automatically assume it's an automatic, but be thankful that Mitsubishi actually put this in a Ralliart! Proper performance DCT in a high (er) performs variant Lancer. Last of its kind. And I don't give two shits that auto "journalists" and vloggers say this transmission is "rough". I say... IT SHIFTS FASTER THAN YOU CAN THINK! (So yeah, drop that clutch, mofo!)
I digress. You can beef up the SST to handle in excess of 700... even 800 AWHP. But, again, only few shops can actually do this correctly. There is a very strict maintenance schedule needed for this as well, though it's no different than most other DCTs.
I have an mr 2015 evo :)$
Last one! .... for now maybe ha
@@willsanders187 same.. been debating on trade lately.. but after watching this video your right.. i will miss this car.. it is what i wanted to begin with a rally car and it was as close as i could get in my budget.
Its a evo, 😁
Indeed