Dustin Rhodes on Cody's Story, Goldust, AEW, Working For Tony Khan & Vince McMahon
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2024
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Dustin Rhodes (@dustinrhodes) is a professional wrestler signed to AEW. He is known for his 35+ year career where he also worked for WWE, WCW and TNA Wrestling. He sits down with Chris Van Vliet in Philadelphia, PA to talk about his legendary career, his emotional match at Double Or Nothing 2019 against his brother Cody, his father Dusty Rhodes not wanting him to be a wrestler, debuting in WWE as "The Natural", the original pitch from Vince McMahon to become Goldust, his comedic moments with Booker T and R-Truth, why his character Se7en didn't work in WCW, his decision to sign with AEW, why he knew Cody would leave AEW for WWE, calling out The Rock and much more!
00:00 Intro
00:35 Being in the best shape of his career
01:20 Memories of Double or Nothing 2019 vs Cody Rhodes
04:07 Did Dusty Rhodes want him to get into wrestling?
05:27 The beginning of his career in Florida Championship Wrestling
08:22 What was the idea behind his original character?
09:28 Memories of the original pitch for Goldust
12:21 When did he start to feel like Goldust?
14:07 Refining aspects of the Goldust character
15:21 Did he ever feel as god as his father?
16:14 Undertaker saying he should be in the Hall of Fame on Joe Rogan
17:54 What does he mean when he says people ‘can’t work’ today ?
18:54 The current resurgence of wrestling popularity
19:41 Did he ever think that Cody would leave AEW?
20:22 What does Cody have now that he didn’t have before?
21:45 Memories of teaming with Cody Rhodes
22:30 The Rock referencing him in current WWE stories
23:19 How did he begin teaming with Cody Rhodes
24:32 What did he think of the Stardust character?
26:01 Putting out his best effort with the Goldust character
26:56 Memories of teaming with Booker T
28:22 Was there anything he ever didn’t want to do in WWE?
29:46 Dustin Rhodes ‘Se7en’ character in WCW
31:44 Being the original 'American Nightmare'
32:52 Advice from Dusty Rhodes
33:49 Who was behind his Goldust entrance
34:51 Is he happy with his time in AEW?
35:48 When does he wear blue paint as opposed to red paint?
36:24 Does he ever think about having a last match?
36:55 Did he think about leaving when Cody left?
37:53 Tony Khan being a massive wrestling fan
40:35 How did he approach talking to Vince McMahon?
41:16 Transitioning into a comedy character
42:06 Memories of movie reviews with Booker T
43:04 How does he approach his ‘Shattered Dreams’ finishing move
45:32 Vince McMahon yelling at him as a producer
48:43 Wrestling during 5 different decade
49:41 People wanting him to come back for the Cody Rhodes storyline
50:48 Cody Rhodes finishing the story at Wrestlemania 40
51:22 Is Cody Rhodes a Hall of Fame?
52:12 What was his reaction to Cody leaving WWE?
53:00 How has he grown since his wrestling debut?
54:31 Being proud of his sobriety
55:05 3 Things that Dustin Rhodes is grateful for
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Dustin Rhodes is a genius wrestling mind. If Tony Khan would allow Dustin to book AEW… AEW would be a much better place and would have psychology in the matches. He is a legend in wrestling.
What the balls Chris?! Mc-Lovin9000 has better production than this 31:28- 31:34
I have had therapy and it has helped me to understand myself better it also can take a wate of your shoulders
@ChrisVanVliet did you subscribe to SCP Archives on Apple Podcast? I heard Pacific announce your name but he said Christopher Van Vliet when he was announcing new people to his patreon or whatever.
A tragedy that we didn't see Goldust give The Rock the shattered dreams at Mania to help his brother.
That would have been incredible. TK shoudl have bit the bullett and let it happen, since he loves pro wrestling so much.
No they should've had him come back as himself.
@@anthonyanderson9303can’t just bit the bullet on somebody that you don’t own and have the rights to use his contract is with AEW any AEW member goes into the WWE for a match or in a match we’re on the camera AEW can sue
@@cooperaustin6867 TK does the own the rights to Dusitn. He could have easily loaned him out for one night. He allowed Jericho to go on WWE TV while under contract and a few others, there's precedent there.
@@cooperaustin6867 What he meant was by "bite the bullet" is that TK should've allowed Dustin to be part of Wrestlemania with Cody. Quite honestly, if WWE asked, TK would have been *a moron* for saying no, especially since he booked Dustin in a match with the AEW champion a few days later, and it might have helped to bring viewers to his show.
WWE has reached out before for an AEW wrestler to make an appearance on WWE TV. Back in 2022 while HHH was temporarily in control, WWE had reached out to AEW to get Billy Gunn for the DX reunion, and were willing to pay $. TK doesn't care about money, so all he wanted was for the commentators to mention that Gunn worked for AEW; literally all he asked for was for them to *mention AEW*; and HHH refused.
Apparently the WWE & AEW relationship soured starting then. Supposedly HHH is really bitter about NXT losing to AEW and then Vince returning & breaking up his version of NXT because it. Since HHH took over, he's been really strict about not mentioning AEW, not working with them, punishing wrestlers who talked to them, etc., and refusing to work with them or anyone from the independents. Vince apparently didn't care for 1 off appearances and special occurrences.
re: Wrestlemania & Dustin/Goldust appearing: it's very likely that WWE didn't ask at all... they'd rather use their guys that are under contract, and their HOFers for big appearances, even if it made no sense storyline-wise. Another good example is that they didn't bring in Matt Cardona (fka Zack Ryder), Cody's IRL best friend, known to the WWE fans, doing the best work of his career, and who is available. Cardona is not under contract with anyone, and could've shown up for a 1-time fee (and would've), but they didn't ask; because he's not on their current roster.
WWE is not necessarily wrong for doing that, you want to promote your guys, but the difference is Vince would want the *best product* out there, and would cut a deal if needed to make it happen. HHH & Nick Khan are apparently not.
Taker’s right; give this guy his flowers
his golden flowers
Oh golden flowers... I thought it was golden showers ..
He's not your grandmother. What does he need flowers for?
@@BushulaBiscuits 🤣🤣🤣
Grown men don’t need any flowers unless it’s for the grave, give him some cigars
Legend. Dude is literally timeless. He still looks friggin incredible today.
Timeless GoldyDust
He looks better now than he has in his career
He looks like he was rode hard nd put away wet. But his workrate is probably the reason.
He is on that DDP yoga workout...
Deviant
Dustin's got this very easy-going, matter-of-fact way of talking, I could listen to him tell stories for hours. Great interview as always, Chris!
Isn't he awesome?
@@ChrisVanVlietYup he is.. but next time get ahold of Jeff Jarrett for an interview, cause "Aint he GREAT"??
@@ChrisVanVliet I’m honestly mind blown Chris. How can this man be Goldust? His acting skills are easily some of the best in the industry.
@@ChrisVanVlietyeah, your talking about how he looks now, & I remember watching as a kid when showed up in Memphis. he was a tall, skinny fat guy w Dunlap disease. Mind-boggling to see him now in such great shape as an old man. 😂
It's incredible how this calm and badass looking man portryed an over the top character like Goldust for most of his career, flawlessly. That's dedication
It’s Dustin’s turn to finish his story 🔥
Great interview man!
lol... anough about ass licked
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came here to make that comment. right?
NWA World and AEW World simultaneously
@@DadBodModelwe need that
Dustin has done so much over his almost 40 year career in wrestling. It would be nice to see him win a world championship before he retires because he absolutely deserves it
I agree I really thought Joe would drop the title to him
@@keenanjacobs9949wasn’t that a non title match??
@@zachgreen4352it was. It was a contender match.
Could you imagine WM41 night 2 ending with Cody and Dustin holding the Undisputed WWE Championship and World Heavyweight Championships.
He's nearly 60. What do you mean win a world title.
Without a shadow of a doubt, Dustin deserves his flowers & to be inducted in the HOF.
MA'AM, he will be inducted, probably next year. He deserves it so hard !
@@vuckomrakic3760 I agree, I hope WWE does the right thing. He was def someone who blazed a trail for others to follow.
@@alanalaurent6349after saying F*** Rock he won't get it
Yes. If wrestlers like Brutus Beefcake, Bushwhackers and personalities like Trump and Sunny are in the WWE HOF.. then Dustin def deserves to be in there because he is a way better Wrestler than them and a way better promo cutter on the mic pertaining to the personalities of Sunny and Trump. Dustin is a lowkey solid technical wrestler and has had more legendary stories and feuds than some of the people that are in the HOF. I still cant believe Abdullah the Butcher is in the WWE HOF but not Dustin Rhodes/GoldDust/The Natural?
In the Pro Wrestling Hall Of Fame as himself and the WWE Hall Of Fame as Goldust
His work in WCW in early 90’s was incredible. The feud against some Austin guy in particular was amazing.
I remember that. Thats when i was first introduced to both of them. Started watching WCW in 1991.
I heard that Austin guy was "Ringmaster". I wonder what ever happened to him? 🤔
@@IAmHeartbreak_I preferred austin as a Hollywood blonde in wcw and as a solo fighter in the same organisation❤
@xtopherjdee4957 yea I remember when he was stunning Steve Austin when he was in the dangerous alliance
I remember those matches with that "stunning" guy who eventually stunned his way to the top. Classics!
👇🏻 Who all wanted Dustin to make an appearance with Cody in The Bloodline Rules match at WrestleMania hit like (Though he was there backstage)
No
At least at the end with the family
I did or at least enter the ring and celebrate after but it would have been amazing for gold dust to show up.
@@elchronico I understand what you're saying but this isn't about anyone else but Cody.it was a great moment for him.
no.... anough about licked ass story
Chris Van Vliet is by far the best interviewer in the wrestling sphere. Good work again.
For anyone whos never watched any AEW, PLEASE go and watch Dustin vs Cody, Double or Nothing 2019. Truly one of the best matches ive ever seen.
I'm looking for it. Is it on youtube? I can only find the promo at the end of the match.
One of my favorite people I’ve ever met on the Indies. I’ve always told him every time I’ve seen him that he was one of the most inspirational and nicest wrestlers I ever met. I met him during the height of his Golddust days and he couldn’t have been a kinder person. Still to this day, he holds true to himself and has never let anything go to his head. His work on camera and on the mic is some of the best of business has ever seen.
Such a great guy. Glad you finally interviewed him.
Was watching an old match with him and Austin. Dustin has been going hard since the 80's. Amazing talent that I feel is very underappreciated.
Him and Austin were amazing together
Goldust will always be a legend in the industry. I’m straight but even as a kid I saw the genius in the character and saw how well he played a creep that I loved. The Rhodes will be legends in wrestling history
I set up the AEW stage in Oklahoma while Dustin was training with others in the ring won’t ever forget it.
Very cool.
Jesus, Dustin is *55* ?!? 😮
Damn, son... Genetics and hard work are treating you REAL good!
A few wrinkles here and there but other than that he looks exactly the same guy that was roughing it up with Stunning Steve and Jean Paul Levesque in WCW..
@@radioVHS149 I know, right? I mean... I'm about to be 44, I'm in pretty good shape- eat right, work out, don't party- do security for a living. Put me and Dustin side by side, and 95 people out of 100 will say HE is 44, and *I* am 55, lol!
They def got some good genetics. Look up a picture of Dusty from 2001 when he was the same age as Dustin. Aside from that messed up forehead he had, he looked incredible, better than Dustin at this age even (the weight tends to help with wrinkles though)
for real. those dusty genes really did work on these guys.
DUSTIN should have been “WORLD CHAMPION🏆 🤼 “!!! He was so gifted in the ring. Him & Barry Windham was something else when they wrestled in WCW!!! They were so smooth & fluid in the ring!!! 🙌🏽💪🏽🔥🙌🏽💪🏽🔥!!!
Dustin n Cody vs the shield is one of my all time favorite matches!
The older I get the more I appreciate his in ring ability. Just so damn consistently good everywhere.
Love what Dustin is saying about people wanting to be told a story, and how that's a timeless concept.
I just showed a friend the '96 Rumble last night. They had never seen a wrestling match before, but they loved the ride that they got taken on by performers working collaboratively towards a story from almost 3 decades ago.
Wrestling really can be forever when the wrestlers know what they're doing.
When Dustin first started in WCW I remember him getting alot of hate because his Dad was the Booker and he was very young. A lot of he didn’t deserve his spot blah, blah blah.
30+ years later and the man has earned everything he ever got.
There's always gonna be people like that. At least Dustin was new at the time. We still have fucking clowns by the dozen pulling the nepo card on Cody like he hasn't absolutely busted his ass and remade himself and gone through more at this point than so many others.
Dustin should already be in the WWE hall of fame for what he did with the Goldust character.
I drank a lot of beer with Dustin down in Alachua County Florida nothing but love for him and his family as always❤🎉 I mean a lot of beer
Dustin is a highlight anytime I tune in to AEW. He's put in some incredible work these past few years, not even taking into account his massive legacy.
Another amazing interview from you, Chris! Kudos and recognition to the legend Jim Johnston for creating one of the best entrance themes ever with Goldust. Dude. WHEN are we getting Jim into the HOF?!
It wasn't on the table a few years ago, and nothing's comes out, but all of his songs are back in the WWE games - Sheamus even redebuted his theme by him. It could happen.
Thanks Mr. Chris, in 89 i got the opportunity to ride to memphis in july and saw Dustin and Bill Dundee take on Black Bart and DWB.HE was good already and got better,im very pleased for his success,i call Dustin my favorite out of his family
Great entertainer great wrestler
Dustin Rhodes is so great in his own right. He's still running hard today. He is a gifted wrestler and I've always seen him in the early 90s through today. Everytime I see Dustin on TV I know it's going to be good.
As I’ve gotten older, I’ve got such an appreciation of Dustin. Please never stop, Natural.
Now this is an interview I'm excited about. Especially considering the timing of everything.
Sooooo been waiting for this video! The clips were driving me crazy! So Glad Dustin has maintained and continues to enjoy the health required to keep going! Truly a living Icon!
Dustin talking about AEW is the footage that should have been released , so nice hearing all the positivity from Dustin about both companies ! Wrestling is awesome .
Everytime I see Dustin, it feels like I'm looking at Dusty.
He's a replica for sure
Great interview, thank you very much for this one Chris❤!!
AWESOME, AWESOME, interview. Very down to earth young man. My 1st time listening to Dustin Rodes. Relaxed, humble. Loved when he told there's no more people wanting to work. I grew up in that era. THANK-YOU DUSTIN.
Absolutely epic and wonderful interview. Loved it! Been watching Dustin since the 80's and he has always been great!
I remember when Dustin debuted in WCW I was a fan from the start and then goldust came and that is when I realized that you really wanted this very proud of you Dustin made me realize I have to do what needs to be done
Im 3 years sober Dustin, thanks for being a inspiration to me buddy,much love from Cleveland
My all time favorite wrestler. Dustin is the man. Was lucky enough to see him as goldust back in the 90s. And again at AEW collision. Always the best match of the night. What a living legend. Such an inspiration...
Age brings wisdom 💯
No, when you allow yourself to learn and un learn.
Great interview. Watching these interviews makes time pass so quickly. What a joy we have someone like Chris who puts in all this effort to bring us this content.
been waiting for this one! LEGEND in the business. Glad Dustin is in a good place man
This was a GREAT interview!!!!
Chris, it was nice meeting you over WM weekend. Thank you again for everything. Also, another great interview.
I watch this guy growing up and i felt he deserve to be in the WWE HOF after all this years
Another great episode from one of the all-time greats! I've always loved Dustin, and for him to be at this point in his career, it's great to see.
I’m grateful for this interview
Dude is so down to earth. Much respect
Fantastic interview. Dustin is a legend. I've watched him for so many years. He need to go into the hall eventually.
Dustin Rhodes is a living legend. Great interview. 👏 👏 👏
Really refreshing seeing someone really pausing and considering a thoughtful reply. Respect
This was such an extraordinary interview. I love Dustin Rhodes
I have met Dustin several times over the years, It is great seeing him here. But I see he is very nurvous and he has changed a lot. But I woulld love seeing Gold Dust with Cody in a Tag Match one more time. I am now 85 years of age and I would still climb back in the Ring with one of the several met against me. I was never allowed to be on a Top Show, But was allowed to enter the ring against several and was not always the looser. I was at a Dinner at The Roubidux Hotem Gus Karras had for his team and others and I was happy to have been able to actually meet several other big time wrestlers.
What a great interview. Dustin has always delivered the goods inside the ring and turned into a comedic genius outside of the ring. A legend!
What a great interview. This is THE BEST INTERVIEW that Chris has done. What an open book by Dustin
Dustin Rhodes is a solid dude, always was. If you ever need an example of a guy who came in and worked, no matter what his angle was, think of Dustin. And props to Taker for his HOF shoutout for him. Even if he never gets inducted, just having the nomination of a guy as legendary in the business as Mark Calaway is probably the biggest rub that most people in the business could hope for.
Such a great interview
What an honor..
For such a man to say..that has worked everydY of his life say.he made a living doing it.... It ?
What he loves... hero state...
People in WWE need to realise Dustin is one of the best all around talents ever in wrestling as a brilliant technical wrestling talent and one of the most unique promos ever and that is what wrestling is all about. When Taker says you are a HOF it should be automatic show Goldie the repect he deserves .
Absolutely great interview!
I loved this. Great interview. I love the Natural. No school like the old school.
He’s such a humble, down to earth guy. That’s rare to see these days, all while keeping the old school alive 😎!!! You’re the man DUSTIN!!!!
This one flew by - one of my favorites!
Awesome conversation Chris! Keep up the great work.
Such an awesome episode Chris! You are the modern day Gordon Solie. Thank you for this awesome interview.
What a great interview
This is what we have been waiting for.
Hell yeah Chris this is the best time with his brother winning the title for this interview and Dustin has had a long career i first saw him i think survivor series 1989 a tag match with his father so this should be good
Awesome interview Chris
What an absolutely great guy Dustin is. One of the first wrestlers in the UK we actually got to see on TV late at night when WCW finally came on our screens in the mid 1990's.
About time.. been waiting on this episode for ever
Been waiting to watch this whole thing for forever.❤❤❤
Same af
36 years in the ring, and I still want to watch every match Dustin has. Dustin only gets better. Cant wait to see him hit 40 years in the ring.
Give this man atleast a TV title run before he retires. Then back to wwe. Dustin is a hall of famer.
Love seeing you grow into this mega interviewer.
Definitely hope to be able to do interviews at this level of skill one day. Great job, great stories. Dustin is a true legend.
Been wanting to hear him share for awhile! Great interview
Legend and hall of famer. I had always wanted to see him in WWE's main event scene back in the day, because he was so damn entertaining. The fact that he's still putting out amazing work is inspiring
Most of all, so happy for him being sober for so long. Such a great example to so many people
This was great thanks Chris
Great Interview!
I am so glad Dustin stayed sober. Thank you God. Surely it has extended his career and health. Strong Mind. Longtime fan since WWF Monday night raw and WrestleMania 12 with Rowdy Roddy Piper
GREAT GREAT Interview !!!
Nothing but love for Dustin. One of the greats. His powerslam has always been a thing of beauty.
Excellent interview. I cant quite place why, but this was one of your better interviews and that's saying something.
fantastic interview. very thoughtfull.
Not really an AEW fan, but Dustin vs Cody is not only the best AEW match of all time but one of the best pro wrestling matches ever. Just incredible
I've met Dustin several times while cosplaying as Goldust. He loved it. I would love to see him again. What a great legend. " You will never forget the name....of Goldust!"
Great interview!!!
great, Great, GREAT interview! Thank you Chris...
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you Dustin one of the best psychology in the ring
Great interview. First time i've heard him talk about the 'Se7en' thing
Goldust was my favorite of all time, and knowing all this about Dusty, and Cody, and how much they love the business...that is what passion is. My mom used to party with Terry Funk when he was home in Texas...
Definitely one of the best and most underrated workers of the last 30 years or so, glad he’s getting his recognition now
Yay! I been waiting for this
Goldust is my favorite character of all time. So deep and scary and forward thinking. I love Goldust so much. Thanks Dustin. You don't even know.
My favourite wrestler of all time. Just a wonderful, interesting, conflicted, dynamic and talented guy. Love you Dustin. Keep steppin'
I’ve watch Dustin sent day one! Love it thanks for memories!
Awesome content! Thank you
My favorite wrestler. I miss the Goldust character but so glad that Dustin is still truckin along and enjoying his career while doing great work.