Oh this is going to be good. Also, DO NOT cry fake suicide threat. It's absolutely the worst most horrendous psychological torture imaginable. It's desperate and pathetic. And I will call the police at the drop of a hat don't play with me.
It's easier to just be upfront about what you want and keep it moving. "You're fine and funny, wanna go out to eat or see a movie?" Or if you just want to smash, just ask that. If you're rejected, just brush it off. Hell you get more respect being honest than being a fake nice guy.
Nice guys finish last is a lie. Spineless guys finish last. Be nice, but have boundaries and defend them. Source, Im an ugly and fat nice guy with a gorgeous wife.
@gary Wilhelm Because no man has ever had unrealistic standards...especially not "nice guys" or incels! It's too hard for these people, because most of these kinds of people either don't even put in the effort, act super creepy and entitled, or fill their heads with imaginary victimhood, and anticipate being rejected, before anything even happens, and twist the words of the object of their affection, to fit their bleak narratives. Btw, I'm not talking about all men....just the "nice guy"/incel type.....
@gary Wilhelm Well....don't swipe right on those people? And men are just as capable and some do have high, unrealistic standards for women...like only wanting to date virgin women, with a perfect height, never tall girls, or rarely, 100% fit, flat stomachs, and some even have the standard that she has to listen and obey everything he says.
4:19 Actually, being a guy, for me personally, directness is good. If someone says they're not interested flat out (politely, and without being too harsh or a straight up rude a-hole), I can live with it. But if they neither directly tell me off or at least give me hints that they're not interested and put me in a "maybe" situation, that's really really unhealthy. Not just frustrating, mind you, it's extremely unhealthy. PS: Yes, I was thinking of a specific incidents. Sorry.
There's no way a person can know you're OK with it unless you expressly say so when in this day and age people date one or twice or some weeks at most and tjrn get into bed, which basically means there's no time to truly weigh the other person and get to know them. You could be fucking a Nazi for all you know.
Nice guys finish last that’s, Why I’ll treat you like trash it’s, not what I really wanna do, but you only date bad guys so, I’ll give you my best try to, treat you the way you want me to Kev: I never open the door, or pull out a chair you can tell me how your day was but I don’t really care, and if you ever get cold, you’ll just have to hack it cuz I’ll be cold to if I give you my jacket, Like woah, you ain’t sitting up front, front is for the homies you can sit in the trunk, I never answer my phone whenever you call it and when the waiter brings the bill I never reach in my wallet Nice guys finish last that’s why, I’ll treat you like trash it’s, not what I really want to do but you only date bad guys so, I’ll give you my best try to, Treat you the way you want me to, Ryan: and imma beat you In every competition, goin out with the girls? You better get my permission, Wait no, I take that back you can’t go, House starts tonight and that’s my favorite show, (girl: do I look fat in this dress) hell yeah you do, Wait lemme speak your language, cows go moo, Nice guys finish last that’s, why I’ll treat you like trash it’s, not what I really want to do, ooh You only date bad guys so, I’ll give you my best try to, treat you the way you want me to, But behind the scenes, she means the world to me, I wanna tell her that she’s beautiful, and show her that loved, Hold her hand when she’s scared, tell her how much I care, but that won’t win her heart, because, nice guys finish last that’s, why I’ll treat you like trash, It’s not what I really want to do, (oh) you only date bad guys so, I’ll give you my best try to, Treat you the way you want me to (HOE!)
I’m sorry but all of these just speak volumes as to the dichotomous self aggrandising ego of certain women. I’ve my kevlar body armour on, so let the potential shots be fired…
All of thse statement are fair. I men that genuinely. But ladies, lets being honest, in every survey made, 80-90% of you, go for the same 10% of men, and then complain that those same men are not interested in a committed relationship. If a guy has access to the whole buffet, why should he settle for pasta?
I may be this but I think I'm ugly and a bit controversial, in my school most chicks are even out of my league anyway. Now I'm just working on my grades. Do I think I'm a nice guy, no I don't even think I'm a nice human being at times.
Nick Nation just being honest with your self look at your negative aspects and work on them, self Improvement is the best even if no one likes you you will still like yourself no matter how you look or act like. (Unless you are dissatisfied with who you are)
Well.. Just because you're not getting anyone doesnt mean you're ugly lol the pretty girls in my school and the pretty girls I'm friends with are all single lmao
Women: “Be straightforward and honest about what you want!” Also women: “I gave him so many vague signals that I wanted him and he never asked me out! What’s his problem?”
That's what women want. Unless you ask for the same in advance, they will be vague about it, because, as cited in the vid, it might end up in getting harassed and if, in person, assaulted, because it's not possible to predict how they'll take outright rejection. When that happens even once, it was said, it's enough to become traumatic or life threatening, again, there's no way of knowing. Could you try telling in advance the level of clarity that's OK for you , in turn, perhaps? Like, "it's OK with me for you to be totally honest"...
@@korkunctheterrible4302 all men prefer honest. We can work with honesty. Vague hints and veiled approaches does not work. Men are simple creatures, just freaking tell us. I had a girl that would complain constantly about the laundry (which was in the basket, but I am not washing until I can fill the machine.) but when it came down to it, she was pissed at me for working as much as I did (which is strange, since she had demanded I put in more hours for our collective bank account to grow) and her way of letting me know she was pissed about my working, waas to complain about laundry. HOW TF AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION!?
Im a nice guy because im genuine. I tell people im too nice and it makes me seem like a pushover. I dont use it as a poor me type situation its the truth. A lot of women want a guy who will stand up for themselves. And i rarely do that
If you don’t stand for something, you will fall for everything. Predatory people look for someone like you, so stop. Being nice doesn’t mean a pushover. Love yourself a little.
"women are not vending machines you can put kindness points in until sex falls out" that line is fucking hilarious
And TRUE!!! LOL.
Unless the coins come from the Bank of Chad.
;)
If you’re actually nice, then you don’t need to say. show, don’t tell.
Nick B EXACTLY the queen doesn't have to tell everyone she's royalty
Oh this is going to be good. Also, DO NOT cry fake suicide threat. It's absolutely the worst most horrendous psychological torture imaginable. It's desperate and pathetic. And I will call the police at the drop of a hat don't play with me.
Me too I hate when certain ppl play that shit to make you feel bad when they’re in the wrong
@Jas Yann damn...but it sheds some light on that case where the dude offed himself and his gf was charged...was he manipulating her like that?
You are legally obligated to report suicide threats. 😮
It's easier to just be upfront about what you want and keep it moving.
"You're fine and funny, wanna go out to eat or see a movie?"
Or if you just want to smash, just ask that.
If you're rejected, just brush it off. Hell you get more respect being honest than being a fake nice guy.
Honestly yes :)
Human decency is the bare minimum.
That they aren't nice.
If you’re being nice where your endgame is to get laid/a girlfriend you’re not nice.
Nice guys finish last is a lie. Spineless guys finish last. Be nice, but have boundaries and defend them.
Source, Im an ugly and fat nice guy with a gorgeous wife.
me too except i have no wife
I'd say it's more spineless, and entitled people that finish last.
That’s wayy more accurate
@gary Wilhelm Because no man has ever had unrealistic standards...especially not "nice guys" or incels! It's too hard for these people, because most of these kinds of people either don't even put in the effort, act super creepy and entitled, or fill their heads with imaginary victimhood, and anticipate being rejected, before anything even happens, and twist the words of the object of their affection, to fit their bleak narratives. Btw, I'm not talking about all men....just the "nice guy"/incel type.....
@gary Wilhelm Well....don't swipe right on those people? And men are just as capable and some do have high, unrealistic standards for women...like only wanting to date virgin women, with a perfect height, never tall girls, or rarely, 100% fit, flat stomachs, and some even have the standard that she has to listen and obey everything he says.
Softening the blow is probably why 'nice guys' don't learn how to take a rejection....
0:17 I wouldn't have expected that to be a woman's username :D
Holy Jesus that's god dam hilarious!! :D
Yeah! :D
4:19
Actually, being a guy, for me personally, directness is good. If someone says they're not interested flat out (politely, and without being too harsh or a straight up rude a-hole), I can live with it. But if they neither directly tell me off or at least give me hints that they're not interested and put me in a "maybe" situation, that's really really unhealthy. Not just frustrating, mind you, it's extremely unhealthy.
PS: Yes, I was thinking of a specific incidents. Sorry.
There's no way a person can know you're OK with it unless you expressly say so when in this day and age people date one or twice or some weeks at most and tjrn get into bed, which basically means there's no time to truly weigh the other person and get to know them. You could be fucking a Nazi for all you know.
Getting mad after rejection is so hypocritical 😂😂
I don't want to date someone who's nice. I want to date someone _kind._
Nice guys finish last that’s,
Why I’ll treat you like trash it’s, not what I really wanna do, but you only date bad guys so, I’ll give you my best try to, treat you the way you want me to
Kev: I never open the door, or pull out a chair you can tell me how your day was but I don’t really care, and if you ever get cold, you’ll just have to hack it cuz I’ll be cold to if I give you my jacket,
Like woah, you ain’t sitting up front, front is for the homies you can sit in the trunk, I never answer my phone whenever you call it and when the waiter brings the bill I never reach in my wallet
Nice guys finish last that’s why,
I’ll treat you like trash it’s, not what I really want to do
but you only date bad guys so,
I’ll give you my best try to,
Treat you the way you want me to,
Ryan: and imma beat you
In every competition, goin out with the girls?
You better get my permission,
Wait no, I take that back you can’t go,
House starts tonight and that’s my favorite show, (girl: do I look fat in this dress) hell yeah you do,
Wait lemme speak your language, cows go moo,
Nice guys finish last that’s, why I’ll treat you like trash it’s, not what I really want to do, ooh
You only date bad guys so, I’ll give you my best try to, treat you the way you want me to,
But behind the scenes, she means the world to me, I wanna tell her that she’s beautiful, and show her that loved,
Hold her hand when she’s scared, tell her how much I care, but that won’t win her heart,
because, nice guys finish last that’s, why I’ll treat you like trash,
It’s not what I really want to do, (oh)
you only date bad guys so,
I’ll give you my best try to,
Treat you the way you want me to
(HOE!)
Part of the reason why I avoid romantic comedies, or anything with the word 'romance' in the tittle
Man I’ve seen way too many reddit videos. They all start to contradict each other after a while. No one knows what they want lol.
I’m sorry but all of these just speak volumes as to the dichotomous self aggrandising ego of certain women. I’ve my kevlar body armour on, so let the potential shots be fired…
Did she vent to him or did she "vent to him" ?
Felis is going to understand the game if she gives you any hesitation then on to the next make your next move your best move
All of thse statement are fair. I men that genuinely. But ladies, lets being honest, in every survey made, 80-90% of you, go for the same 10% of men, and then complain that those same men are not interested in a committed relationship. If a guy has access to the whole buffet, why should he settle for pasta?
I may be this but I think I'm ugly and a bit controversial, in my school most chicks are even out of my league anyway. Now I'm just working on my grades. Do I think I'm a nice guy, no I don't even think I'm a nice human being at times.
Nick Nation just being honest with your self look at your negative aspects and work on them, self Improvement is the best even if no one likes you you will still like yourself no matter how you look or act like. (Unless you are dissatisfied with who you are)
Well.. Just because you're not getting anyone doesnt mean you're ugly lol the pretty girls in my school and the pretty girls I'm friends with are all single lmao
I now look back at my blue pilled self in this comment section and I laugh now I look to better myself with my now red pilled life
Bruh I’ve never had a bf yet I get called pretty often 💀 that don’t mean u ugly boo
This is why the only male i trust is my bf, and im prob never going anywhere without someone i actually trust, which is a small handful of people
.. well damn Grandma
dont believe everything you read in mills and boon, yes, its based on some real relationships, but its a section of fiction
Women: “Be straightforward and honest about what you want!”
Also women: “I gave him so many vague signals that I wanted him and he never asked me out! What’s his problem?”
K
Lol confusing
That's what women want. Unless you ask for the same in advance, they will be vague about it, because, as cited in the vid, it might end up in getting harassed and if, in person, assaulted, because it's not possible to predict how they'll take outright rejection. When that happens even once, it was said, it's enough to become traumatic or life threatening, again, there's no way of knowing.
Could you try telling in advance the level of clarity that's OK for you , in turn, perhaps? Like, "it's OK with me for you to be totally honest"...
@@korkunctheterrible4302 all men prefer honest. We can work with honesty. Vague hints and veiled approaches does not work. Men are simple creatures, just freaking tell us.
I had a girl that would complain constantly about the laundry (which was in the basket, but I am not washing until I can fill the machine.) but when it came down to it, she was pissed at me for working as much as I did (which is strange, since she had demanded I put in more hours for our collective bank account to grow) and her way of letting me know she was pissed about my working, waas to complain about laundry.
HOW TF AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION!?
Im a nice guy because im genuine. I tell people im too nice and it makes me seem like a pushover. I dont use it as a poor me type situation its the truth. A lot of women want a guy who will stand up for themselves. And i rarely do that
If you don't stand up for your beliefs and say "No" when you mean it, then you're far from genuine.
Then just don't say this stuff to people. How can you expect them to respect you if you show them that even you don't respect yourself?
If you don’t stand for something, you will fall for everything. Predatory people look for someone like you, so stop. Being nice doesn’t mean a pushover. Love yourself a little.
You don't love her you love the idea of her. capiche?
:)