He talks a lot live. He read a 2 page long letter from a fan during a concert I saw. Something about coming to her dad's 50th birthday party and eating burgers and what not.
Even Lars (about as hack of a drummer as you can find in a metal band) played 21/32 once, though it was because he was either too late or too early on a fill. Not intentional. "Master of Puppets". That being said, Blackened has like 20 times signature changes in its short running time, and that WAS intentional--Metallica were trying to purposely up the ante for technical metal writing for AJFA.
@terryhesticles412 For sure you could! If you have a 3/4 beat you can split it up in 6/8 12/16 and so on. If you play demisemiquaver thirteentuplets you could name it a 39/39 beat (3*13=39). Now you just end the beat at the 27/39th thriteentuplet and you got a 27/39 beat. Of course it is out of question, if someone would use it while playing, but it is possible.
but there wouldn't be 39 notes in the measure there would be 27, so a 39th note is impossible because it wouldn't be a 39th note, it would be a 27th note
The way i understand it (if we use 3/4 for exaqmple) would be "there are 3 crotchet beats per bar. 6/8 would be 6 quaver beats per bar. now for something silly 33/32, 33 demi-semi? quaver beats per bar. it is the bottom number that is the tricky one to write for. so, not only would 27/39 be rediculous to score, requiring some arbitrary and impossible combination of dotted notes, it would be rediculouse to read and therefore perform. vis a vis, he was joking! just my 2 pence :)
Nah it`s not just endurance, i have played with many drummers and it`s alot more than stamina. obviously it factors but some of my friends can play many styles and nail them!!!
I know,I like the new DT. But some fans(most,actually) got disappointed after Sex Degrees,because they changed their style.You should check out for things before saying shit =)
Isto é so em Portugal meus amigos, que eles gostam disto. Não fiquem com ideias, que em madrid ou londres ou o cueralho levam com a setlist de seguida e um "adeusinho" e mai nada.
@postigaceltic yes, i watch the setlist on setlist.fm, and i know he was being sarcastic about the shitty music, i was asking for the specific song they played right before this, well too bad you don't remember, thanks anyway man! Opeth is freaking awesome!!!!!
the second number represents the type of pulse, the first the number of, there is no "17th note", the 17 would only exist arbitrarily, as if you took the color "red" and decided to call it "bisumop", sure you can do that, but there already is a name for what you are trying to describe. now, if you want to get into polyrhythms in theory I suppose you could put a group of 17 over something or a group of 13 over something, but you still wouldn't be able to 13/17, you would either have 13/? or 17/?
You miss the point of what i tried to explain. maybe it was a little long winded but i like to be thorough. My point concerned the issue of the American system that implies fractions. but as you and i both said there is NO such thing as a 17th beat. The closest would be 16th or semi-quaver. It seems strange, you argue a point you esentially agree with. And yes it does matter as note names cut the confusion. this thread wouldnt even exist if the beats per bar wernt treated a fraction!
'27/39 is 9/13 Proved to be a joke, as 13 is not a multiple of 2. Yes, it is an impossible time. ' Please don't tell me that you couldn't tell that 39 is not a multiple of 2.. and of COURSE its impossible -.-
tomato - tomato. American - British. I, as a brit prefer the actual note names rather than treat the values as fractions of a bar (sorry, measure). for example.... to say that the lower number in 3/8 refers to eighth note does not make an awfull lot of sense as there would only be three of them. however, to say the lower number is quaver beats then there are no implied fractions. therefore 27/39 is impossible as there is NO note value that matches, the closest would be a demi-semiquaver ?/32
Actually I'm teh biggest Malmsteen and Sabbath I know.There's no such thing as an Opeth fan that hate these type of music.I mean,Opeth wouldn't be playing Michael Jackson if they weren't open to other music styles.They actually use folk,progressive rock and blues in their songs.You don't have a valid argument if you think that Opeth is not true metal,"is only noise bla bla" if you never heard a song to realize their influences and styles.
in western music the way it is understood, no it is not. there are indian and african rhythms that work in poly rhythms, but those rhythms are best understood as poly instead of trying to create a new system that would require a lot of awkward thinking that would not make counting it anywhere near easy. it's like every once in a while someone in a band describes their music as having halfs in them, like 7/8 and a half, that isn't really it, you are now in a division of16th notes, not 8th notes.
In regards to the type of note that receives one beat (the bottom number in a time signature), past 16 is just plain rediculous and nearly impossible to keep track of, 16 itself is pretty hard to keep track of. I'm pretty sure we can all agree that Mikael was just joking here about the 27/39 time signature lol.
It's a joke on the audience, because he's saying numbers and 97% don't know the difference between 4/4 and 3/4 and wouldn't know that 27/39 is just a bullshit number that's meaningless in terms of music meter.
13/17 time not a time signature plain and simple your friend doesn't know anything about music theory if he thinks 13/17 is a real time signature an odd time signature is more like 7/8, 15/8, or 9/8 and math metal is called that because they change time signatures a lot during a song so there are a lot of numbers and a lot of counting nothing mathmatical about it past simple counting
If Opeth ever were to stop, something I severely hope never happens, Mikael could make a killing as a comedian. I love these guys.
He talks a lot live. He read a 2 page long letter from a fan during a concert I saw. Something about coming to her dad's 50th birthday party and eating burgers and what not.
no Mikael JÅckson
Ä in Swedish would actually approximate the a sound in Jackson, but only if spelled Jäkson. :P
@@ericforsyth Jeck-son. My-kel Jeck-son. For a Skåne accent, duplicate the last vowel, so My-keel Jeck-soon.
"I think we're friends again and we can drink later...So...Let's play some shit music."
Lmao, Mike is so funny.
I like how metal people refuse to play a straight 4/4
Prog up dude. 4/4 is for plebs
Ajay Sharma "If it's not in 21/32 I don't like it"
Even Lars (about as hack of a drummer as you can find in a metal band) played 21/32 once, though it was because he was either too late or too early on a fill. Not intentional. "Master of Puppets".
That being said, Blackened has like 20 times signature changes in its short running time, and that WAS intentional--Metallica were trying to purposely up the ante for technical metal writing for AJFA.
NOW I WANNA HEAR 27/39 BEATS
That's pretty awesome. They not only play AMAZING live, but they like to have fun, too.
was never Metal fan, but thx to my house mate fell in love with Opeth, Ghost Riveries is now the top played album on my iTunes, Opeth rules
fantastic :>
Woah. Did not expect to see you here
Mikael Jackson.
and he plays war from messhuggah lol
Harbinger hahaha
This was posted before he died 😭
And before I died
No matter how often I watch this, it's still hilarious.
Mikael Akerfeldt -- the best banters in metal.
imagine the emotion live during the show
This is great, I literally lol'd to this
I love that the next recommended video is "Mikael Akerfeldt eats a Bic Mac"
he should do stand-up comedy
i almost did the moonwalk
Man, I want a full cover!
God, these guys are hilarious xD
Mikael Jackson
those guys are funny, definately wanna see them live sometime
@terryhesticles412 For sure you could!
If you have a 3/4 beat you can split it up in 6/8 12/16 and so on. If you play demisemiquaver thirteentuplets you could name it a 39/39 beat (3*13=39). Now you just end the beat at the 27/39th thriteentuplet and you got a 27/39 beat. Of course it is out of question, if someone would use it while playing, but it is possible.
0:16 - 0:26 Beneath the Mire
Marceline De Lumière no,not even close
So Metal!
Course, death metal has some of the best musicians i ever seen...(Drums an guitar at least anyway!!)
fucking awesome
@postigaceltic hey man, now that you were there, can you tell me which song they were about to play after Miches Jackson's song. Thanks @Andres_Opeth
@terryhesticles412 you can play every form of a beat, like 4/4 9/8 3/4 6/8, just to mention the usual ones.
So a 27/39, too.
"Wasn't so loud!" :-)
@postigaceltic What was the first best? :P out of curiosity
Opeth rules!!!!!
Fucking hilarious, awesome.
isn't it headbanging, wild grinding?
wouldve been so funny if right after in his casual voice "yeah the kid hes not my son"
Hey, nice recording, you´ve got a nice camera
but there wouldn't be 39 notes in the measure
there would be 27, so a 39th note is impossible
because it wouldn't be a 39th note, it would be a 27th note
jajajajajaja yeahhhh
Opeth é foda... \,,/
The way i understand it (if we use 3/4 for exaqmple) would be "there are 3 crotchet beats per bar. 6/8 would be 6 quaver beats per bar. now for something silly 33/32, 33 demi-semi? quaver beats per bar.
it is the bottom number that is the tricky one to write for.
so, not only would 27/39 be rediculous to score, requiring some arbitrary and impossible combination of dotted notes, it would be rediculouse to read and therefore perform.
vis a vis, he was joking!
just my 2 pence :)
Nah it`s not just endurance, i have played with many drummers and it`s alot more than stamina. obviously it factors but some of my friends can play many styles and nail them!!!
No fucking way! That was great :')
whatta blasts 0.o
Ah,you'll notice that before "Sabbath" there should be "fan" sjhasjsahiehas
ahahah very nice x'D
This makes me lol
........... @ the comments below.
I fucking love Opeth even more now :D
6/8 is six eighth notes. the bottom number is what note you're using, the first number is how many.
fuck awesome!
I know,I like the new DT. But some fans(most,actually) got disappointed after Sex Degrees,because they changed their style.You should check out for things before saying shit =)
Isto é so em Portugal meus amigos, que eles gostam disto. Não fiquem com ideias, que em madrid ou londres ou o cueralho levam com a setlist de seguida e um "adeusinho" e mai nada.
So let's play some shit music
HAHAHAHAAH that guy is freaking hilarious
opeth is fucking great
Stranger requests from his drummer than Steve Vai...
@postigaceltic yes, i watch the setlist on setlist.fm, and i know he was being sarcastic about the shitty music, i was asking for the specific song they played right before this, well too bad you don't remember, thanks anyway man! Opeth is freaking awesome!!!!!
the second number represents the type of pulse, the first the number of, there is no "17th note", the 17 would only exist arbitrarily, as if you took the color "red" and decided to call it "bisumop", sure you can do that, but there already is a name for what you are trying to describe. now, if you want to get into polyrhythms in theory I suppose you could put a group of 17 over something or a group of 13 over something, but you still wouldn't be able to 13/17, you would either have 13/? or 17/?
Saying "no they don't change,I'm idiot" won't make a damn a diference man.You just don't learn.
You miss the point of what i tried to explain. maybe it was a little long winded but i like to be thorough. My point concerned the issue of the American system that implies fractions. but as you and i both said there is NO such thing as a 17th beat. The closest would be 16th or semi-quaver.
It seems strange, you argue a point you esentially agree with. And yes it does matter as note names cut the confusion. this thread wouldnt even exist if the beats per bar wernt treated a fraction!
Hilarious!
LMAO. That was fucking hilarious!
mikael akerfeldt is a master yeah!!!
lmao EPIC!!!!!!
yeahh!!!!LOL
was this in portugal?
'27/39 is 9/13
Proved to be a joke, as 13 is not a multiple of 2.
Yes, it is an impossible time. '
Please don't tell me that you couldn't tell that 39 is not a multiple of 2.. and of COURSE its impossible -.-
Just because I loved Train of Thoughts...anyway ahahha I know DT disappointed their fans
@Rhys96 Yeah, I#m playing drums for over 11y now, you can't tell me shit about rhythmic ;D
1:15 should make Pete Sandoval grin.
Like that other video says Mikael is a comedic genius. LMAO!
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!
nope
haha
the second number has to be either 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,ect.
haha nice
@UntilYouFail This guy is right - it is possible.
hahaha that was nice
great hahaha XD
I don't think that was really 27/39
tomato - tomato. American - British.
I, as a brit prefer the actual note names rather than treat the values as fractions of a bar (sorry, measure). for example.... to say that the lower number in 3/8 refers to eighth note does not make an awfull lot of sense as there would only be three of them. however, to say the lower number is quaver beats then there are no implied fractions. therefore 27/39 is impossible as there is NO note value that matches, the closest would be a demi-semiquaver ?/32
haha they are quite a jokes band i always thought hed be the moody depressive type
They might have had such days. I think this is postdepressive state
Actually I'm teh biggest Malmsteen and Sabbath I know.There's no such thing as an Opeth fan that hate these type of music.I mean,Opeth wouldn't be playing Michael Jackson if they weren't open to other music styles.They actually use folk,progressive rock and blues in their songs.You don't have a valid argument if you think that Opeth is not true metal,"is only noise bla bla" if you never heard a song to realize their influences and styles.
whatever,
think what you want
i don't even care anymore
in western music the way it is understood, no it is not. there are indian and african rhythms that work in poly rhythms, but those rhythms are best understood as poly instead of trying to create a new system that would require a lot of awkward thinking that would not make counting it anywhere near easy. it's like every once in a while someone in a band describes their music as having halfs in them, like 7/8 and a half, that isn't really it, you are now in a division of16th notes, not 8th notes.
In regards to the type of note that receives one beat (the bottom number in a time signature), past 16 is just plain rediculous and nearly impossible to keep track of, 16 itself is pretty hard to keep track of. I'm pretty sure we can all agree that Mikael was just joking here about the 27/39 time signature lol.
WTF 27/39 that doesn't exist
because teh number that is down have to be a pair it could be 2,4,8,16,32,64
but 39 that's is imposible
Lighten up Francis! Lol
I think he wants to fight. XD
ooorg
billie jean
yeah i know but he shouldn't you know almost all opeth fans know music theory
It's a joke on the audience, because he's saying numbers and 97% don't know the difference between 4/4 and 3/4 and wouldn't know that 27/39 is just a bullshit number that's meaningless in terms of music meter.
13/17 time not a time signature plain and simple
your friend doesn't know anything about music theory if he thinks 13/17 is a real time signature
an odd time signature is more like 7/8, 15/8, or 9/8
and math metal is called that because they change time signatures a lot during a song
so there are a lot of numbers and a lot of counting
nothing mathmatical about it past simple counting
hahaha
is that sarcasm??
Mikael Jaxenrot
HahaHah... Nice
yeah i think your rigth
about neoclassical
yeah thats exactly why he did it. because they would know he's joking. haha.
LOL you know he is joking right?
It's like you ajjaja =) I like DT.But who should grow up? You.I don't go into videos of bands I don't like saying senseless shit.
hahahahahahahahahahaha