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What is Love Asking from Us?: Dr. Gabor Maté & Tara Brach
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
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This conversation is released with the premiere of the documentary 'Where Olive Trees Weep', along with 21 days of talks on Palestine with leading historians, spiritual teachers, trauma therapists, poets, artists and more.
Watch this full video and all 21-days of this collection of talks around "Where Olive Trees Weep": we.scienceandn...
What is Love Asking from Us? Reflections on Gaza and the Bodhisattva Path
With Dr. Gabor Maté & Tara Brach
Dr. Gabor Maté and the Buddhist teacher Tara Brach come together to explore the heart-wrenching situation in Gaza through the lens of the Bodhisattva path. They will explore the question of what spirituality means in the face of injustice and suffering, and why many spiritual teachers have remained silent on the crisis in Gaza. Drawing from the Bodhisattva path-the commitment to alleviate suffering for all beings-Dr. Maté and Tara Brach reflect on the importance of compassion, solidarity, and engaged spirituality in responding to the oppression and trauma experienced by the Palestinian people. This conversation is an invitation to examine our own spiritual practices and to consider how we can embody the Bodhisattva spirit in today's world, breaking the silence and standing in solidarity with those who are suffering.
'Where Olive Trees Weep' is a poignant, heartbreaking film about the struggles and resilience of Palestinian people under Israeli occupation. It explores themes of loss, trauma, and the quest for justice. We follow, among others, Palestinian journalist and therapist Ashira Darwish, grassroots activist Ahed Tamimi, and Israeli journalist Amira Hass. It features Dr. Gabor Maté as he offers trauma-healing work to Palestinian women tortured in Israeli prisons.
The program expands on the themes explored in the film and provides a larger historical and social context. Access to the program and the film is by donation.
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Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:09:46 - The Buddha's Teaching on Mind and Perspective
00:18:59 - The Bodhisattva Path and Collective Belonging
00:28:21 - Responding from Care, Not Hatred
00:37:30 - The Power of Compassion and the Need for Transformation
00:47:19 - The Jewish Critique of Zionism
00:58:21 - Including the Hurting Members of our Human Family
01:09:00 - Exploring Healthy Rage
01:19:00 - Question on Oppression and the Need for Change
01:28:33 - Gratitude and Appreciation
Find all of our Palestinian resources at whereolivetreesweep.com/resources/
The reason why I am so inspired by Tara and Gabor is that they share the truth of their vulnerability .
Thanku .
When I fall into judgement , their willingness to be candid about their reactions spurs me to keep practicing til I learn and feel a capacity to really feel what would love do now .
Thanku from a deep heart.
I am so happy to see Tara here and not being silent.
The last anonymous prayer offered by Tara Brach transcribed :
'There will be a day and the children of all genders, colors and faiths will follow the path of heart.
They will speak the language of the Earth and understand the language of heaven. They will live as part of the great Circle of life and then peace will come.
There will be a day and the children of all genders, colors and faiths will follow the path of heart.
Their hearts will walk in trust and they will sanctify all form of living beings and plants. Together they will pray to the sacredness, that is everywhere, connected to the source of life and then peace will come.'
thank you for transcribing it here!!!
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How beautiful! ❤️
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Her msg resonates deeply. I was raised a Muslim and I'm Palestinian/Lebanese. At an early age I understood suffering and I thought myself compassionate...until I woke up to my practice of eating meat and the cognitive dissonance I was living...We owe it to those without a voice to speak for them. If we can avoid suffering, why wouldn't we? Compassion is a gift we can give all those who live. And together we can heal. For the Israeli apologists who stand up for gay rights but who support murder of Palestinians, they are unseeing...their compassion cup has a hole in it that's in need of fixing. Until then, we will all struggle. For hope. For compassion. For all.
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Good willing people are everywhere. But the puppeteers, who are driven by greed don't listen.
I had to listen to this video twice in order to fully grasp what they were both saying. I so appreciate Tara's description of "collective belonging". The other teaching that resonated for me was the RAIN practice that Tara shared. Recognize, Allow, Investigate, Nurture. Then going from an "armed heart" full of blame towards the enemy, to a sense of tenderness. That love is asking us to stay in the not-knowing and to simultaneously respond to the suffering. In my humble opinion there is another word for this effort: peacemaking. What a beautiful interview, thank you for hosting.
I think there is a place for anger, even judgement, when someone is doing evil on a large scale. We can hate what is being done and it motivates us to act. I suppose if we don't want to act with evil as well we must find the love for the person who is doing evil, but some things can't be overcome by staying peaceful or neutral. One would not stand by and let an old person be beaten on the street. We would use hatred of such an act to assist, even if it required physical force not words. Doing nothing is not love, it's abnegation of good. This evil has been going on for a long time and lots of people who could have acted have not.
"Doing nothing is not love, it's abnegation of good". Thank you for those beautiful words.
Thankyou. 🙏 Deep gratitude and respect to you both.
May everyone know they have so much power within.... to serve them in realising the truth. May we free all people from suffering by being with all that is.
Thank you so much for this beautiful talk! I have been so incredibly sad incredibly frustrated and oh so so angry! Angry at everyone condoning and enabling this to happen!
It feels like all this anger and sadness in myself is actually hurting my heart.
I did feel a softening while listening to this beautiful talk and I thank you so much for that!
Open heart..soft front
Strong back..
..with..
.discerning wisdom
Daily practice...in every moment.
Thankyou Tara!!! 🙏
I was silenced and humbled within as i listened and felt deeply of the woman's words in the doco....
"She wasnt a good enough camerman/journalist or sister in holding her brother when he was wounded"
Her disillusionment was so real and it is just so cruel that she should suffer this inhuman choice....this inhuman way of surviving and way of life.
Thank you for this love ❤️🩹
beautiful conversation, again, thank you Dr Gabor Mate, Tara and SAND for this medicine !❤
Thanks so much for talking about this. I struggled with how a lot of teachers are complacent when it comes to this genocide the west funds heavily in, and it was nice to hear your perspective!
Thank you for the depth of my heart. Two of my favourite inspirational teachers at the same time - double treat and an incredible talk, desperately needed right now witnessing the brutal horror in Gaza and Palestine over the last few months, which seems to be escalating when we had hoped for PEACE. I will continue to try to have a firm back and open heart, try not to 'other' sides and pray for an urgent CeaseFireNow - permanently. Much love, and huge respect from Ireland, Suzanne ps. I will also keep asking 'What is LOVE asking of me? What is LOVE asking of us?
Piercingly brilliant conversation, multidimensional. Dr. Mate, btw, is called Resolving Gaia on the Mayan calendar, and Tara Brach is Resolving Traveler. This means they are both Tone 11, Resolving, a very strong connection.
As I see the numerous comments on chat about the inappropriateness of facial expression or of not displaying anguish, I am reminded just how caught in our single sided stories we all are.
The way one expresses is beautiful and purposeful, of itself.
One reason that we interpret emotion so critically is because we were "corrected" so much as kids.
Don't be angry now. Don't be sad now. Don't be happy now.
If I get busy learning about myself, taking action in my community, instead of criticizing others or trying to get people to conform by shaming, more progress is made.
These knee-jerk reactions are primal instincts with little reflection.
Intuitive response is, by it's nature, more calm and joyful. Less anguished. It expresses not suffering but understanding.
In the moment of seeing one lash out in violence toward another, intervening is paramount, but not in such a way as to beget more violence for the next person to endure.
What a wonderful conversation. Tara is extraordinary
These so-called spiritual leaders who don't want to jeopardize their status just shows the shallowness of their practice of the spirituality they profess. As an ordained Christian minister, I am called to speak for and stand with the most vulnerable of the world. Doing that from a place of loving kindness toward those with whom I serve is part of the call.
Afflict the comfortable.
Comfort the afflicted.
Only inner peace creates outer peace. This conversation proves it. Even a world renowned trauma therapist like Gabor Maté admits to feeling enraged and angry for months. This is a mechanism of projection of your own pain from inner wounds on the outside world. And the Israel/Palestine conflict is the perfect outlet for that. It serves as a global focal point of anger and inner turmoil for decades. The media also loves to further fan the flames on that one. Other often much bigger conflicts in Asia and Africa that have been going on for decades do not get that coverage.
So when you are a spiritual teacher and therapist your task is to help people overcome their inside pain instead of projecting it onto the outside. There are always us vs them conflicts in the media to use as an outlet for your pain. The more you watch war coverage or similar drama the more you re-create it as your own trauma, fear and anger is thus triggered. So rather focus on peace not war.
You can't help by pointing fingers or speaking out on behalf of some people while making others feel left out. The more you shout "look, there is a fight", "let's everybody watch it" the more you attract the attention to it so the more the conflict grows. The whole social media algorithms are driven by rage and anger. So staying silent is not a sign of ignorance, selfishness or lack of compassion. You are more compassionate by not pointing fingers and telling everybody to watch the fight.
Watch peaceful countries like Iceland or Costa Rica. What you focus on grows. As within so without. So the more you focus on peace the more you spread peace. When you watch war and get fearful and angry you make it worse. Cultivate inner peace to create outer peace. The best example of this was peace activist and Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh and his Plum Village. Learn from him how to turn away from war and towards peace.
I'm taking that question into my heart "What is love asking here?" Two profound teachers here, as a certain percentage of humanity will evolve and raise the consciousness bit by bit. With gratitude ❤❤❤
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:00:03 *🎤 Introduction and Context*
- Introduction of the event and emphasis on the ongoing dialogues about Palestine, focusing on the significance of love in the context of current events.
- Directors introduce special guests, Dr. Gabor Maté and Tara Brach.
- They structure the event, which includes a conversation, some practice, and audience questions.
00:02:30 *🕊️ Personal Backgrounds and Relationships to Palestine*
- Tara shares her Jewish heritage, personal history with spirituality, and growing awareness of Israeli-Palestinian issues.
- Exploration of her connection to Jewish ancestry and the impact of the Holocaust on her family.
- Discussion on her evolving views and increasing engagement with Palestinian issues after recent events.
00:06:11 *💭 Spiritual Leadership and Silence*
- Conversation about the silence of spiritual leaders concerning the Israel-Palestine conflict and the challenges they face in responding.
- Discusses fears of alienating followers by taking political stances; highlights the selective activism of spiritual communities.
- Mentions the sentiment that spirituality focuses inward rather than on collective action.
00:11:57 *💔 The Challenge of Wise Speech*
- Understanding wise speech in Buddhism and the challenges spiritual leaders face when discussing controversial topics.
- The narrative emphasizes that arriving at peace requires openness to speaking truths without alienating those who may feel opposed.
- Analyzes how criticism may be received in the spiritual community and the implications for dialogue.
00:14:40 *🌍 The Interconnection of Inner and Outer Work*
- The importance of intertwining personal spiritual growth with active engagement in social issues for broader healing.
- Discusses the need for a dedicated approach to integrate compassionate activism with inner work.
- Stresses that true spiritual pathways must embrace collective responsibility and awareness of shared suffering.
00:19:00 *🤝 The Bodhisattva Path and Collective Responsibility*
- Introduction to the Bodhisattva path, focusing on collective understanding rather than individual isolation.
- Encourages the realization of interdependence and the impact of actions on the collective well-being.
- Highlights historical struggles within spiritual traditions and the potential for collective flourishing through unified action.
00:24:01 *🌱 What Does Love Demand?*
- Discussion on the question of what love requires from us in responding to suffering and injustice.
- Explores inner training and personal acknowledgment of biases and fears as crucial for addressing collective suffering.
- Introduces the RAIN practice, emphasizing mindfulness and compassion as tools for navigating stormy emotions and promoting healing.
26:29 *🌊 Exploring Grief and Compassion*
- The conversation highlights the journey from anger and blame to recognizing deeper emotional pain, specifically grief and helplessness.
- Compassion and vulnerability are emphasized as essential tools for addressing suffering rather than succumbing to rage.
- The idea that disarming one's heart can lead to more effective and compassionate action against suffering is discussed.
32:24 *📜 Understanding Historical Traumas*
- The importance of recognizing historic traumas that lead to conflicts and suffering is examined, urging a shift in perspective about perceived enemies.
- Combatting ignorance about the history of conflicts is crucial for fostering empathy and understanding among different groups.
- There's a call for deeper awareness to challenge ingrained beliefs and foster an understanding of humanity behind historical narratives.
39:51 *🤝 The Power of Compassionate Action*
- The discussion centers on how the way we seek our longings shapes our futures, emphasizing the role of compassionate communication.
- Maintaining a balance of strong action and open-heartedness is crucial in addressing grievances while fostering transformation.
- The need for collective inner work to align actions with love and care is highlighted, framing community as essential for healing.
49:09 *🙏 Embracing Collective Grief*
- Collective grieving and connection are portrayed as vital for healing and understanding shared pain in the community.
- Personal stories are shared to illustrate the importance of grieving together, marking significant emotional moments that enhance empathy.
- The necessity of nurturing a tender heart while maintaining a strong backbone in the face of suffering is reiterated as the foundation for compassionate action.
00:52:21 *🌬️ Mindfulness and Letting Go*
- The importance of mindfulness and body awareness in releasing tension and negative emotions.
- Encourage softening physical tightness while breathing.
- Identifying and acknowledging feelings related to othering and judgment towards different groups.
00:58:14 *💖 Cultivating Empathy and Love*
- Emphasizing the need to include and empathize with others, even those perceived as 'other.'
- Understanding that everyone shares common desires for safety, love, and belonging.
- Exploring how love can guide actions and responses toward others.
01:00:03 *🤔 Questions about Addressing Injustice*
- Establishing guidelines for sharing questions rather than long statements in the conversation format.
- Exploring personal emotional struggles while addressing injustice without perpetuating division.
- The necessity of active engagement while cultivating compassion during activist efforts.
01:03:30 *😠 The Nature of Rage and Political Frustration*
- Recognizing and processing feelings of anger and betrayal towards political figures.
- Understanding embarrassment related to political actions and its effects on personal emotions.
- Exploring the importance of self-reflection to navigate feelings of rage towards political inaction.
01:09:46 *😔 Reflecting on the Existence of Evil*
- Discussing the continuous cycle of evil and suffering throughout human history.
- Exploring philosophical perspectives on evil as delusion rather than absolute truth.
- Emphasizing the importance of compassion and community in addressing and overcoming evil.
01:17:09 *🕊️ Balancing Love for Family and Truth*
- The conflict between familial love and personal beliefs regarding controversial issues.
- Recognizing the inherent pain in choosing between honesty and maintaining personal relationships.
- Encouraging self-awareness in navigating personal dilemmas related to truth-telling and familial bonds.
01:20:56 *🌍 Individual Responsibility in Social Change*
- Discussing personal responsibility in addressing larger historical and social issues.
- Emphasizing mindfulness in actions and intentions when engaging in social justice.
- Highlighting the significance of collective action and community in facilitating meaningful change.
01:22:15 *🌪️ Acceptance vs. Resistance*
- The discussion revolves around the balance between acceptance of suffering and the natural resistance that arises during challenging times.
- Chaos can lead to necessary change and awakening.
- Radical acceptance involves fully acknowledging one’s feelings without passivity, leading to intelligent responses.
01:25:10 *🙏 The Power of Prayer and Compassion*
- Prayer serves as a tool to awaken compassion in oneself and others amidst suffering.
- Suffering can be reframed as a means to develop a compassionate heart and mind.
- The idea of calling on a universal heart helps foster a sense of belonging and connection.
01:26:50 *✨ Final Reflections*
- The speakers express gratitude for the conversation and acknowledge the transformative effect it has had on them.
- The importance of shared presence and connection in facilitating personal change is highlighted.
- An anonymous prayer is presented as a hopeful vision for humanity’s future.
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As we wait to find just the right words, words that will maintain our own status and comfort, more people suffer and die.
A wise person in frustration said, after another lamented they couldn't find their purpose in life, "Help whoever is on your right, and on your left. That is your purpose!"
Another person's words have stuck with me: "Happiness does not come to those who pick and choose."
When I drop the worry about what others will think if I take action to relieve suffering, the ability to do it flows. It feels so natural to give another human being the space to ask for what they need to survive physically and emotionally. When we ask questions and really listen deeply to the answers, it has less to do with revenge and more to do with being witnessed; more to do also with preventing the preventable harms. Which of course is love and vulnerability.
Thank you ❤🙏🏽
Thanks to these conversations and the integrity of people like Gabor, Tara, Zaya, Maurizio and crew, each time I reach out in my own small attempt at having a discussion around the situation in Gaza, and Palestine as a whole, I am constantly learning how better to provide space for the other, without compromising the truth and letting my anger, fear and judgement get in the way of staying true to that, whilst keeping my kindness and my deeper humanity towards others intact in the process. What an immeasurably valuable lesson to be learning! I’m so grateful, thank you ❤ This is also my first encounter with bodhisattva. It sounds like something I have been unknowingly trying to practice since I was small and something I need to be more learned in embodying. It is not lost on me that in a previous discussion over the past couple of days, I used the words 'arming our souls' and altthough I was conscious of the conflict I felt within over that choice of words, as I typed them, I was unable at the time to better resolve the impulses behind that conflict and so I wrote those conflicted words anyway.. today's conversation has really helped me shine a light on that tiny experience and so many others, particularly around the events in Gaza and related experiences, so thank you so much xx
This world has a lot of broken hearts 😞 That’s the main problem.
This conversation - space created between you left me speechless and in a sense of healing and care for all , thank you so much … beyond thank you
Wow, what an uplifting conversation.
Thank You both ❤
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Love is asking us to surrender all of our heart and is asking us to let go unreservedly yet we hold onto our life while others lose theirs without choice. The hardest thing that we do is to let go of our own life in complete surrender and is impossible to do which is why Jesus the first fully realised human willingly walked into death because he knew as the first born of heaven he had to die to become the door where we can truly drop everything by knowing someone has went there first. He gave up what could have been a fabulous life on earth and everyone who got to know him.
The call of love is to surrender everything to become fully realised and there is a door that will make it easy for you to walk through.
Micah 6:8-kindness, justice, humility.
It is right and understandable that there absolutely cannot be peace ever without justice. Love does not guide, rule or lead the Israelis. The fact that is and remains is the determined biology of sapiens. We Great Apes cannot change. We sapiens can only be changed. We are determined creatures. Only the plasticity of the brain is our hope and potential and possibility. This is just the hard fact of life.
So, my question is how can we bring about that activation of our plasticity in order to achieve change for better behavior? This is the cutting edge of the coal face, standing at the furthrest edge of the great vast abyss of the unknown that our knowledge has brought us. There arr 20 new discoveries made every day in empirical scientific knowledge and we need it now more than ever before.
Sometimes people have to be brought albeit unwillingly to face the wrong in their thoughts and actions. It will take courage on the part of Western leaders to stand up to Israel through sanctions and at many levels. I don't think the whites of South Africa gave up their racist policies without a struggle, politically, internally, financially etc
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I heard a story about a king who wanted to invade a neighbouring kingdom and asked the Buddha. Buddha said if they had a community that cared for elderly and sick and if there was a culture of compassion then they should be left alone…. Is this so?
Can you please send a link to the beautiful poem Tara read towards the end of the session. It was a prayer for the children. "children of all genders colors and face will follow the path of heart they will speak the language of the Earth - etc". Thank you.
Thank you. From New Zealand. ( Id love to understand why Tara and co support Biden?If that is true? I could never vote for him -or trump for that matter).
I guess when you’re faced with inadequate options, the best you can do in the immediate term is choose the lesser evil whilst continuing to act for better options in the future
@@MyWits_End I dont think that choosing the lesser evil is a good strategy personally. Its giving consent still, RFK would get my vote if I was a U.S citizen....just because he is about the only choice that MIGHT be worth a try....and I could not vote for trump or biden. They are both proven bad, lesser or not.
@@megm.c4026 It’s not an easy choice esp when there is so much at stake and none of the choices are compatible with your values.
I assume you mean you feel you are condoning a person’s policies if you vote for them and while there’s an element of truth in that, the other side of the coin is choosing not to vote at all, which is also giving consent, but in a less intentional way. It’s consent by omission. Consent by choosing not to take action even though your action can still effect the outcome from being better than it might otherwise be.
Here in Australia we have compulsory voting. People who don’t wish to make a choice will often submit a ‘donkey’ vote but I feel like that is also being complicit in the outcome. At least if I vote for what I feel is the better option for the country going forward, I know I’ve done all I can to try and stop the person who will cause the most damage from being in the drivers seat.
Edit: our political system works differently here so I honestly don’t know what I would do if I was in the US
Gabor is a very special man but his attempts to control others and what wants to happen is a sign of a deeply traumatised person.
Give up the belief of two powers in the world. Ramesh Balsekar.