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Jim Ross shoots on how WCW signed Hulk Hogan
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- For over forty years Jim Ross has been the Voice of Wrestling. From starting as referee in the regional territories to becoming the Executive Vice President for WWE, nobody has a story quite like Jim Ross. From recruiting and hiring some of the biggest superstars in the industry to providing the soundtrack for the most important moments in wrestling history, “Good Ole JR” was there for it all. Join us every Thursday morning as Conrad Thompson grills JR like you’ve never heard before, uncut and uncensored!
I could sit and listen to JR talk about the wrestling business all day.
Kinda says how bad today's wrestling is when it's more entertaining to listen to stories about stuff that everyone already knows
@@jedsteelwell2354 to be fair, only people like JR can pull that off. He makes me feel like I'm 8 years old again sitting on the library carpet listening to a story with the class.
@@subarashiiashi3894 there's a bunch of guys I'd rather listen to talk then watch today's shit wrestling
Same
@@jedsteelwell2354 damn hahahhahaha savage
1) Hogan vs Flair 1992
2) Sting vs Undertaker 2015
2 matches I will never understand why they didn't happen at WM
Egos maybe ignorance?
You mean Hogan vs Flair 1992 @ Mania
@@DutchMcVeigh
Ah thanks, edited.
Because their predetermined who wins...it really doesn't matter..its not like a basketball game or something where teams play to win..
@@bustownbc2787
*They're
If you're gonna be a dick and state the obvious, at least use the correct spelling.
Hogan not putting Flair over for the belt at least ONCE is the greatest loss to true fans. These two guys should have been able to have a year long epic feud prior to Hogan's heel turn down the road. Both had selfish tendencies, but Flair laid down for the Hulkster in what had been his territory for years. The favor should have been returned.
That didn't work for him,brother 😂
Flair beat Hogan at uncensored 1999
Don’t work for Hulk, brother
True fans 🤓🤓🤓
Flair would ALWAYS job. That's one thing that can't be used against him.
Nitro's production was far superior to raw's in 1995-1996 - the show looked so much more big budget with the metal entrance sets, pyro, graphics, overhead flying camera angles, lighting etc
And Raw still had their roster mostly fight generic jobbers on Raw, whereas Nitro had none of that.
Good times
@K X Toyish...Then what pray tell did the raw set look like.
@K X Of course you'd rather throw out a deflection than answer the question. Happens when one refuses to give an answer.
K X “your just a ham and egg...,.. GET MY BAGS”
Poppa pump
Even if the match between Hogan and Flair at WrestleMania 8 had been subpar it still would have been a huge moment because they were the two biggest stars of their era and they had never wrestled
I believe they instead wanted to do Savage and Flair as a slap in the face with how much they put Savage as second rate to Hogan. Then did the same with Bret Hart and Flair.
Got to take things into consideration here. Hogan was leaving after wm8, why would they want to put the belt on a guy that was going away? And they wouldn't have wanted flair going over their top guy on their premier show. Makes sense why it never happened.
That cant be the excuse; no matter what anyone says, Hogan is a decent wrestler, and then there’s his appeal.
Hogan vs Flair would have been CRAZY!
If they couldnt figure out a clean finish, theres no reason why Sid couldn’t interfere, powerbombing Hogan twice or thrice and Flair getting the pinfall, Hogan still looking strong. After the match, Warrior could have made the return-saving Hogan from a Horsemen like beatdown. HELL, Vince could have brought in Tully and and Arn, thus Hogan losing to the Horsemen at Wrestlemania.
And Hogan could have gotten his Summerslam re-match!
@@HereIsWisdom1318 dude none of that works. In theory it sounds great. But hogan was gone till 1993. So no rematch for summerslam 92.
Plus vince isn't gonna put the top guy from a rival promotion over against his top guy at the biggest show. Their was no way Hogan vs flair could have happened, unless hogan was staying and went over.
@@GamingNewsIn60 Makes sense. Your comment, I mean. Anybody watching assumed or knew Hogan was trying to take a lengthy time off from the WWF for a minute like Bruno 14 years earlier. I know that's what I was thinking with the way he was dropping the belt. First to Warrior then Taker, and then being stripped.
Wcw just looked so small, but when Hall and Nash came in Hogans heel persona really shined
Well if you remember,Hall and Nash left WCW before but of course 95 and early 96 was WWF low ratings back then.
YEAH BROTHER
@@jerryh.nintendoplayers true
WCW didn't look small anymore once Nitro started. They were already going toe-to-toe in the ratings before Nash and Hall arrived.
Jayce True, however when it comes to TV production and presentation, WWF(E) was always ahead of WCW in that department.
Love hearing the stories of this period.
Me2 man
Really relaxing listening to JR talk about wrestling.
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
What really bothered me about WM8 was that they teased the Hogan/Flair showdown for weeks before changing it. As a kid I was marking out so hard for the two great world champions to collide on “the grandest stage of them all” and was so disappointed when they changed it.
We got Flair vs Savage and it was fantastic. 8 also had Bret and Piper, which was a fantastic match! I was there in the Hoosier Dome and even as a 6 year old I was rooting for Sid. Hogan was old news by then. He wasn't relevant again until his heel turn years later.
@@feebypeels2883 That’s so awesome you got to be there! Yes that version of Hogan had definitely expired by then, and those were both excellent matches, I must agree. Hogan/Flair was something that should’ve happened earlier, I just wish that they had not hyped it so much then switched on us later when it was finally a possibility. Sid was fire at the Rumble that year and dominated at Wrestlemania, no doubt, and Savage/Flair was also an amazing match. Loved the Piper/Bret match as well, especially the heel tease on Piper’s part - and I was surprised to see Bret juiced at a time that wasn’t allowed!
It wasn't the only time they teased a potential Mania match before changing plans. Remember Orton vs Brock vs Batista being teased for WM 30?
This channel would probably gain a lot more subs if they put some effort into the visuals instead of using the same loop of a steak on every single video.
Speak for yourself
I think it adds sizzle
Hobby Reflections -tsss yeah like more steak less sizzle or sumptin...
Right! I just smoked me a fat blunt of Good ⛽ Now i have the Munchies!! 😂
@@pandavelli8176 Oh, Chip.
Hogan v Flair
Austin v Hogan
Sting vs Taker
There have been a few matches that didnt happen because of the Vince McMahon way.
To be fair Austin-Hogan didn’t happen because Austin refused to work with Hogan. Austin knew if he put Hogan over he’d never get the rub back so he refused. Hogan did it to so many people and did it to Michaels after that.
Sting-Taker was gonna happen at the next Wrestlemania from what was the plan but the back injury ruined that opportunity.
@Brian Alex hbk and rock didn't get along well after the corporation angle
Sting was injured, Austin didn't want to wrestle Hogan.
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
Damn it I hate watching these clips, I leave more hungry than anything!
Yeah been staring at that burger for like 3 minutes don’t know what the hell they are saying fuck wish I hadn’t skipped lunch today
Definatley fattty arbuckle jr Conrad Thonpsons idea to have stare at meat grilling for hours
I try to just listen to the audio.
Only Vince would change the main event of Wrestlemania beacuse of house shows in December. wtf...
In 1995 WCW had just to name the well knowns at that time: Sting, Vader, Macho Man Randy Savage, Arn Anderson (and the 4 horseman), Chris Benoit, Ric Flair, Diamond Dallas Page (people say he didnt get a push until later, he was already television champion in 1995), Meng, Sabu, and the Harlem Heat (who were pretty much always over in the WCW). To say he didn't think they had the talent just shows how little he knew of the company.
Head to head is genius. Conflict breeds excellence, this forces both brands to give 110%
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
Listening to the grill makes my job go so fast I could listen all night
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
As weird as this is to type, Flair vs. Hogan means more to WCW than it does to WWF at the time. When Flair and Hogan did the house show circuit it was the worst business they'd ever done for a major Hogan feud, which is why they swapped in Taker. The WWF audience had been conditioned to think anything that wasn't there, was not a big deal, and grandpa in his bathrobe wasn't big to them. In WCW it's Outsider vs. Beloved Star. Which is why they messed it up so badly here and why WCW was always the red-headed stepchild of wrestling. Even inside their own company. TNA had this same problem. They watch WWE and copied it on a smaller scale because they didn't believe in themselves or could project confidence.
For match 1 at Bash, that thing needs to be Face vs. Face, and Flair needs to stand tall with the big gold belt at the end of the night. Once in a Lifetime, Flair vs. Hogan. It can be Flair turning heel during the match to cheat his balls off. Those fans will eat that up for a night. Because that gives Hogan something to chase, a big star that beat him, and it gives the letters WCW meaning in one night, makes your audience proud to be a fan, to have ridden out that horrific half-decade. Flair beats Hogan. The conquering WWF scamp doesn't bitch out your biggest star for almost 3 decades clean in a ridiculous overbooked slop fest that gives Flair nothing to even hold onto for a rematch.-
Once he bitches out Flair their business toilets again because it's master and commander Hulk vs. Comedy Job Brigade starring all of his friends to job to him.
You build the rematch for Starrcade, you have Hulk beat people for a little while away from the main title picture and you give your fans a chance to acclimate to Hogan's BS . Then you do the match they did at Bash AND NOT FUCKING BRUTUS! In the biggest flop in Starrcade history.
@ShadowAngel AMEN
Can you go in depth into ll the things that were wrong with Starcade 97? Also was the Screwjob a work? That storyline was basically WWF's nWo. I always felt like WcW was advertising WWF in that nWo segment where they talked about the Screwjob for like 20 minutes.
As a young WWF fan at the time, I can confirm that I didn't care one ounce about WCW (I knew it existed and read in the magazines sometimes, had some of the action figures, but didn't follow it or regularly watch it like I did WWF), and when they brought in Flair even knowing he was supposed to be some big legend from WCW, he was not a credible challenger in my eyes to Hogan and I wondered why he was thrust immediately to the title picture and why I was supposed to think he's a good wrestler (and then when I saw him in the ring I didn't even like what he was doing). It felt kind of contrived to me as someone who hadn't followed his career.
As a Canandian wrestling nut, I flipped when I saw the Big Gold on WWF TV. I was excited..."it's coming-Flair vs Hogan!" I still think it was a wasted opportunity
People hate on Luger so much, especially like WWF guys who were higher ups in the office when he switched. Luger was over in WcW, they just cornballed him up in the WWF
I liked the All American gimmick actually lol
Lex Express era non-payoff pissed me off. He should've won the title at SummerSlam 93.
Seems the feeling was everywhere. Eric even said he lowballed the hell out of Lex because he didn't really want him.
I think people hate on Luger because of how hard he was pushed by WWF as the next Hogan. As a result Bret Hart became a lot more popular instead
Two words: Creative control
One word: FACTS
A huge legend on both WWF & WCW. Rare if not unique.
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
I cant believe grilling jr only has like 35k subscribers. This guy is a wrestling encyclopedia. Why are more people not subscribed to hear jr speak about the business?
Probably dont know about it
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
I was born and raised in the Charlotte area. Back close to 30 years ago, Ric Flair had a Gold's Gym in Charlotte in the South Park area.
I heard the story after Hulk Hogan came to WCW that Hogan came to Charlotte, and Flair got a case of beer and sat in the office at that Gold' Gym discussing business and that is where the talks of Hogan coming to WCW began. I can believe it.
SUBBED! Always liked Jim Ross. From back in UWF days
Hulk Hogan drew lots and lots of dimes 💵💰👍...
And still would today
There he is!!! Whats up buddy.!.!
F Hogan
@@JackG79 👌👍
Agreed but a dime then is a dollar today
Lex was over pretty big and could of been more so if they had put him in some good fueds with good stories instead of cramping him up in a bus to press the flesh like an old time politician
The issue is they tried to make him into HULK HOGAN, but you can't make any body Hulk Hogan.
Shouldve booked as heel after that Summerslam 93 fiasco...that narcissist gimmick was cut too short. He is a classic heel
@@trojandarkhorse2022 no faces too many heels at the time as Bret's first run hurt the company and they brought Hulk back and although that brought interest back, they tried Hogan version new via Luger and that didn't work.
@@Arayig1982 Do you think they put the title on Bret too fast, or without proper build? Do you think someone else should have been the pick? I f so who? IJust curious.
@@Tony-fq5bn they put the belt on bret for various reasons. One of which was the steroids scandal which they wanted to distance themselves from Hulk, and bret was the opposite of hulkmania, sort of bringing the federation to backlund days again. Small pay, less universal, more obedient, less wrestler prestige, more wwf name superiority.
I’m sooooo looking forward to hear the shoots on AEW after he leaves.
He loves AEW
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
@@the_elmeister Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
Why don’t they post which episode this is from?! There are a lot of these JR podcasts I’d download & keep listening to if I knew which ones they were
We all know exactly how WCW signed Hulk Hogan but one of the few who can still make the story sound like you’re hearing it for the first time is Jim Ross (and Jim Cornette).
Yeah vince would have been the last person to cry foul about eric wanting to put him out of business, when he put soo many promotions out of business in the 80's, but hey all's fair in love and war right?
To be fair Bischoff started the first shots at WWF having Madusa throw the Women's belt in the garbage and he was reading RAW results on Nitro and calling them the World Whining Federation. So Vince fought back and who could blame him?
@@chadk890 Yeah, just bad vibs all around.
Eric did everything Vince did to promoters in the 80s, and Vince didn't like it.
Rico Salvaje You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about
@@juice5435 you're right, its not like vince stole all of Verne gagnes talent in the awa. Or stole bill watts talent in mid south. Vince was just better at building stars then those guys
Jr’s best quote ever - “good god that man had a family!!!”
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
He signed his contract on a bandanna and his signature just said yeah brother !
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
Wcw signing hulk Hogan was huge. He’d already got big in wwf/e. And then he went to work for Turner. Hogan had plenty of good years in the business ahead of him and it just made sense to make the move.
Good info!
Signing hogan is what first got me to watch wcw & then hall and Nash sealed the deal and wcw became my fave
Well, the reason Vince had to change the main event at WM8 is that Hogan was leaving for an unspecified amount of time from the WWE to further pursue acting. Hogan, at the time didn't know if he even wanted to return to wrestling so you couldn't have had Hogan go over Flair at mania and then Hogan leaves as champion. Vince would have booked Hogan/Flair for WM8 if Hogan had committed to staying.
How about Hogan jobbing to Flair? He was leaving right?
@@jerry85g7 I would have been alright with Hogan doing that job but back then Vince wouldn't hear of a WM ending with a heel champion. Besides, Savage and Flair had a really good match that day.
@@waynegotke5502 good point, people tend to forget that Hogan was gone for almost a year after WM8 and a heel didn't win the main event until WM16.
@@southpawslim1 Hogan and Flair did wrestle some house shows prior to WM 8 and I think Hogan won a couple of them with the rest ending in countouuts or Dqs. They were non title of course. lol Vince must have been pissed at all of that missed opportunity back then. lol
WAYNE GOTKE then they could’ve done a DQ like they did with Hogan v Sid have perfect do the run in while Hogan has Flair pinned have Perfect and Flair put the boots to Hogan then have the warrior run in and clean house then you can have the babyfaces standing tall at the end of the night and you can do Savage vs Flair at summerslam in England
Anyone know which episode this is from?
Hogan being around is really cool. He really is something else.
ugh it cuts off at the end
WWF also totally blew another dream match, which was the Ax and Smash Demolition against The Road Warriors in a proper pay per view big time match.
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
It is crazy to see how many wrestlers, during these interviews are having more and more times where they lose their own train of thought and need help getting back on track like JR did in this video. Wonder if there is any correlation there with anything? Just curious is all? CTE maybe???
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
Love the clips but I would love it if you used more clips of meat being grilled, just a little more nice variety to look at
No company will ever threaten WWE because, for twenty-something years, they have been a publicly-traded stock on the NYSE and were built into the largest “sports entertainment” enterprise. So, it will not matter who is the best in-ring worker or the most talented performer, it is about turning pro-wrestlers who look the part into actors so Vince can sell them on Wall Street as corporate assets, then make his commission for launching the next Dwayne Johnson or Hulk Hogan into Hollywood.
But, if we are talking about quality wrestling product and actual tv ratings, AEW has a chance of doing better. Pro wrestling is awesome and it should not be interfered with by people who do not understand pro wrestling. That's how WCW was shut down, and that is why the AEW product does a million times better than WWE's.
I don't think being publically traded really makes the immense difference per se. There really isn't any magic to being publically traded versus privately held outside of raising capital, which a company like AEW really don't have to worry about considering the money behind them.
The reason nobody will ever threaten WWE is really more so just the immense head start in every facet that they have. They have huge international deals a presence everywhere, huge merchandise streams, immense TV deals, brand awareness, etc. that has been built over the past 40 or so years. It just isn't practical to think any company can catch up to that in any near future time frame.
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
I feel like I’m alone on this and it blows my mind, but ever since I was a kid up until now, I always thought the WCW ring sounded amazing when guys took bumps, but I never hear that talked about. Anyone else agree with me, or am I just harping on one detail for some reason.
Goes back to watching the horsemen, road warriors and others flying around the ring. And it was smaller than ur standard WWF/E ring. Gave some realism to the matches unfolding. Check out Halloween Havoc 1990s match between the Nasty Boys vs the Steiners.
Alchemister J M yea, and I always felt that finishers had way more impact bc of that ring. Off the top of my head, The Giant choke slamming someone down to his knees, the Outsiders Edge and The JackKnife, even Stings Scorpion death drop just sounded so much more lethal. Diamond cutter too! Randy’s elbow drop. Lol ok I guess there’s a lot when I think about it.
Merk_Wahlberg exactly!! Tully Blanchard’s slingshot suplex, beautiful Bobby’s leg drop off the top rope, arns gordbuster. Imagine The Rocks gordbuster as a setup to the people’s elbow.....
Alchemister J M oh bro you’re so dead on with the Rock thing. The place would go way crazier than they already did!
@@Noodie1986ify this guy knows his shit
That burger look scrumptious, but can we get a steak video loop?
I stopped watching WCW the most after finger poke of doom and I was done with WWE when Stone Cold went heel
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
Vince could of done both Hogan vs Flair and Sting vs Undertaker at Wrestlemania during his time running the show and he passed on both. Let that sink in.
Thank you Jim Ross
These vids get ruined by the amount of ads. Destroys the quality.
don’t complain about a free video
@@bignut1769 But. I am.
Critical of Lugar having the same match for 10 years but doesn’t knock Flair for having the same match his whole career?
True.....But Flair was over in a way Lugar never was
Flair drew Huge money and crowds for decades.
Exactly, Flair had one match whether he was face or heel.
I don’t think he’s criticizing him for having the same match in terms of style but in terms of quality
Also they invested all that money with the "Lex Express" to try to get Lugar over with the fans... so that he could have those matches in WWF.
I think vince realized that they were legitimizing the competition. It's one thing for your heel color commentator and manager. To declare Flair as "the real world champion". But If the company had treated him as a equal to Hogan. You could make the argument that its indirectly saying the same thing about where he made his name. Never heard him say anything about it. But most of the time they didn't acknowledge any other American wrestling promotions.
I think Vince did it to create the fan argument to draw more publicity.
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
I need a like Conrad
I’ll save y’all 12 minutes, MONEY MONEY MONEY
Hogan after signing WCW contract.
Hogan:You got me brother.
Imagine if Vince had done Hogan vs Flair @ 'Mania & 'Taker vs Sting in 2015.
If you remember wwe well WWF back then they had a rumble match with both hogan and flair in it I believe flair and hogan traded chest chops with each other.
I bet the reason why hogan vs flair didn’t happen in wwf was that neither one wanted to job to the other
The Hogan FLAIR match was the most heated argument between kids in the playground in the late 80s early 90s. It should have been booked and not paper veiw on regular t.v and had Rick win by a new group of Horseman jumping Hogan and then they could have made Hogan a baby face again and everyone would have been behind him. The old man icon down on his luck on the verge of just giving up but the fans keep him going. And eventually hulk over comes and eventually gets the belt back even then retires and fans would have forever loved the story. And that's what fans deserved that's what Hogan the most loved champ and Rick the most loved heel deserved
If there is ONE thing I'll give AEW, its that they have the best production values of any wrestling company since WcW, outside of the WWE of course
SPILL THAT GRAVY CONNIE!
Conrad sounds like a giant know it all know mark. JR calling it like a pro
It's fun to hop out of the shower every 90 sec to hit skip ad.
Hoke Hulgan
Hoke Kogan!
PLEASE ADD MORE ADVERTISEMENTS
I'm getting hungry as shit watching the video
What episode was this part of?
EP 32 - Eric in the WWE
As a poker player, Eric was a super aggressive poker player
No no no.....if using a poker analogy Eric was be the total fish luckbox donk who is playing with Billionaire staked funds.
In reality Vince is playing chess while Eric started playing checkers & ended up just kicking the can.
This video should be renamed wcw vs wwf not hulk hogans contract
What was the reason Vince didn't do Hulk vs. Flair at WM8? Kind of glaring omission to not even discuss this as part of this conversation.
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
Say you want JR but Lex switching over to WCW in amidst of contract renegotiating along with Alundra Blayze/ Madusa putting the WWE woman's title in the trash was a great ratings coup for WCW
Sometimes JR speaks out of both sides of his mouth and really doesn't make coherent arguments. He says at WCW Luger would have "all the same old Luger matches over and over again" but at the same time he just said how WWF invested a large chunk of money to try to get him over with WWF fans... So weren't they trying to get him over in order to have all the same Luger matches over and over again in WWF? Yes, yes they were.
@@kwrbt2979 I definitely agree with your statement
Hogan was going on hiatus after Mania 8 and therefore it wouldn’t make sense for him to win and regain the title from Flair. WWF also couldn’t let WCW Flair come in and get the win in the main event of Mania. Vince ego. Hogan ego. Nothing more. However, Flair vs Savage was a better match and it led to a rematch and a tag match at Survivor Series. They could have a better match together. Hogan’s routine against Bundy, Earthquake, Sid and Yokozuna was more his style. WCW was a bale to cash in on the main event because Hogan had been gone for a year and it was a much bigger deal. Hogan faces Flair a few times in 1992 notnon TV, and they may have even been afraid of Hogan being booed at Wrestlemania.
Ya that's about what Ithought. The house show matches were the shits by all accounts as well.
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
Hogan vs Flair should have headlined Starrcade.
Hulk hogan was a superhero when I was a kid. When he left it was so surreal that I didn’t even want to watch the cheap wcw knock off product. That’s what I thought at the time. Once the Monday night wars and nwo really started, I was flipping channel to wcw on raw commercial breaks. I basically missed hogan as a baby face in wcw and just moved on when he was gone to Shawn and Bret. Then of course Austin happened and it changed everything. Still the wrestler I miss the most. All those old timers hung on for so long but Austin left fairy young.
I was the exact opposite. I hated Hogan. Never cared for WWF until Austin really cranked up but I was an Austin fan when he was in NWA/WCW. Got sick and tired of HHH with a quickness. Loved The Rock and Austin Feud but I always had a soft spot for The High Chiefs lineage much like I did for the Hart's and Von Eric's. The WWF wasn't Wrestling to me. There was never any consistency. No feuds that lasted. No real Storylines.
John Derek Mitchell Where are you from? This might explain the difference though I’m sure we both appreciate it now. I didn’t care for good workers as a kid. That didn’t come until later on. I’m from Boston so the wwf and north east of course. I was a little kid and Hogan was just a hero I didn’t know why I just knew it was special when I saw him on wwf tv. Watching Sunday superstars, you rarely saw hogan. I think there was a lot of terrible story stuff in all of pro wrestling back then lol. I never cared about the Von Erichs because I really only saw one of them later on. I was too young.
Good ol JR
Imagine having the attitude era going to WCW fighting their stars at the time and the WCW stars coming to fight in the WWF those rating would of been rediculous
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
"What did we lose" really? It wasn't Lex fault that they ran the stupid All American gimmick.....look at th pop when luger beat hogan for the belt on Nitro. JR sounds butt hurt for luger playing them
Conrad is Chaz Bono
I'd rather watch MMA then wrestling, to think I grew up watching Stone Cold Steve Austin, Kane, The Rock, The Undertaker, now we have no one to cheer for....Reigns is gone, but Drew Mcyntyre is great, Bricks gone, The fiend is rare, Becky Lynch gone.
I remember feeling like Hulk Hogan had already gotten stale by 1992. I thought that the Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage feud was much more interesting than a Hogan/Flair feud would have been at that time.
I heard Flair/Hogan never happened at WM8 because it didn't draw a ton during house shows and the two of them couldn't come up with a finish. The only thing that saved the Hogan/Sid match was the Warrior's run in. One of the worst wrestlemanias I watched as a kid. 9 wasn't much better.
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
Letttts go@
I wonder if Vince will now call out Tony Khan’s father or Dixie Carter or whoever owns impact wrestling instead of calling out Tony Kahn himself. I wonder if he looks at Tony khan as he did Eric Bishoffe by not acknowledging and only coming for billionaire Ted Turner. I wonder if he look at Tony Khan’s father as the one to acknowledge because that’s Vince’s equal not his son.
the Lex suprise and what did they get really? they got people to see that watching a live wrestling show each Monday can be more than a cookie cutter show.
unplanned things can happen. suprise appearances. it set up and forced wwe to go live each week. except when the USA network would prefer to air tennis or
dog shows.
Doing Hogan and Flair was something but I remember back in the 80s watching both shows thinking "Hogan is invincible but he would not have it that easy against Flair and the Horsemen". But when Hogan went to WCW, alright you have the match up but there's no Horsemen, it's Flair with his manager Sherry Martel and the storyline is the ref Mr. T and that maybe Flair tempered with him before the match. And then once Flair is defeated, Ric is forgotten and Hogan is attacked by the "Butcher" and it is revealed to be Hogan's friend Brutus Beefcake and Hogan is up and running with the Dungeon of Doom rivalry. Probably cause Hogan wanted to feud with his buddy. But they missed the boat on not having Hogan vs Flair and The Horsemen. And they could have milked that for a long time.
Not a bad idea, but they'd done that fued a few times already with Sting. At the time it may have seemed repetitive to have Hogan vs the Horsemen
@@Tresdad09 That is not in the same ballpark. Sting was just another WCW mainstay. We are talking about the legendary Hulk Hogan. It would have been interesting as Hell seeing him interact with the Horsemen trying to push them off. All the storylines would have been off the hook if written properly. Although knowing WCW at the time, they would have had Hogan team up with Savage and at the end of the day, Hogan would have easily won most of the fights. lol WCW 1994 may have been too late cause the booking was not the greatest. Something around 1988 would have had been the time to do it. Maybe by having Flair jump ship to the WWF with Blanchard and Anderson when they did it. You do it post Andre-Hogan.
@Damien Jones Well I was thinking Flair would have gone in the WWF when Tully and Arn went there. So the last member would have been Hennig for sure. That would have fun to watch! But I thought about this in the past imagine a 4H group with Flair, Dibiase, Hennig and Rude.
Many say Hogan wanted beefcake
im glad we got flair vs savage instead
Me too. It was a great storyline with Perfect and Elizabeth as well.
Well I think that flair could not have done it had he wanted to I think his contract with the company at that point was exclusive and he couldn't jump ship and he could not go to WWF at that point could do it so there was not going to be in WWF at that point Hogan flair was a go happen
Does the video portion have to be a burger over and over?
Mean Gene
How did hulk keep his name
"he's had a bad back that long." 🎯 100% Him bitching about the PERFECT tombstone from undertaker is ridiculous, even for Hogan. Hogans broken down body was the problem. Dude looked 50 in the 80's.
Have you ever wondered where your soul goes after this life? Have you wondered what will happen to you during your judgement day in front of God almighty? God will show you all the things that you did in your lifetime. Are you confident you will go to heaven?
Basically we are all sinners despite any tiny sins we commit like lying, bad thoughts, or cussing. It doesn't even matter how many good deeds we do because one little sin is bad enough already in God's point-of-view.
Fortunately, our God, Jesus Christ, decided to come down to Earth as a SINLESS human and sacrificed His life for our sins. Then He resurrected three days later! Therefore if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is your Savior for your sins, you'll DEFINITELY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God loves you that He did this for us knowing that most humans would deny Him. It doesn't mean that a Christian won't sin anymore because this world is already filled with sin. It just means you entrust your soul to God, and you will be qualified to go to heaven on judgement day.
If you choose to accept Him as your Savior for your sins, you will be (percetange-wise) one of the few amazing souls who will go to heaven. Most people will die denying Jesus Christ and will forever suffer in the lake of fire.
I’m not one of these marks but just talk shit about Hogan, the man was a huge draw in the 80s as a baby face in the WW app. I was even excited when he first came to WCW because here in the Carolinas most of my friends and I watched more WCW than we did WWF. But the excitement of Hogan coming to WCW only lasted a couple months because then it just turned into a rip off version of what he was doing in WWF and top WCW heels like Vader and Flair were reduced to doing nothing but jobs for Hogan and savage for the next two years. From fall of 94-mid 96 WCW was hurting because of Hogan. Him turning heel and joining Hall and Nash was truly best for business .
I wasn't a big fan if Hogan going to WCW because it meant the young stars were going to be held back. Vader was my favorite WCW star along with Benoit
I feel like Vince McMahon made a huge mistake with WrestleMania 8. Three of the matches on the card were totally mismatched. It should have been Undertaker vs Sid Justice instead of Jake Roberts. It should of been Macho Man vs Jake Roberts instead of Ric Flair. It should have been definitely been Hulk Hogan vs Ric Flair. That PPV was made like another weekly show in mind instead of making box office moves.
💯 agree....
I was a kid then, and I loved whatever matches we got. It wasn't until later on that I became a "smart mark"
First Bischoff bent over...
one thing I have to disagree with JR on is that vince NEVER listens to the fans.....
According to Hulk he wasn't planning on returning to wrestling after he left the WWF, but he and Linda had moved into a new house which turned into a money-pit, so he had to go back to work to recoup the losses from it
You can't believe a word out of Hogan's mouth. He always wanted more money.
@@EwanCumia Ah yes "Everything Hogan says is a lie", the same song sung by all lazy and pretentious fanboys.
@@FerretJohn Are you playing bass for Metallica?
@@EwanCumia Are you smoking meth?
I dont hate Hogan I just intensely dislike how he does his job.
If you could persuade him to do the job and do it clean he would still find a way to steal the heat and get himself over.
He gave The Rock a clean finish at Mania but completely stole the spotlight post match. To the point where I almost forgot The Rock won.
I'm still surprised to this day he jobbed that night...and to this day has the cheek to call it "passing the torch"
If Hogan doesnt win a match then you can be guaranteed of one of the following finishes
Cheaty tight grab roll up/feet on ropes
Double DQ or count out.
Interferance and schmoz.
Some form of screwjob.
Name 5 matches where Hogan loses clean?
I'll wait.
BUT
Inspite all my smarky shit talk I do dont blame or hate the guy.
Hes rarely been outside the top 10 draws in his career and he came from an era when you protected your spot violently and the business was protected a f unexposed.
fans had no idea we were being worked and 1 loss could kill your image, his approach never changed with time and he never learned that you can have a 50/50 record and still be over as fuck, he does business his way and that's that.
If you are booked to work a programme with him you'll make money but it may hurt your career overall. You're getting buried either way even if the shovel he uses is made of solid gold.
the little big brother?
also, Ted Turner did care what was said. he paid attention, try saying the word "foreign" in TBS or TNT.
Did anyone really like Lex until The Total Package?
WWE was never gonna do the Hogan/Flair match proper until after WCW was bought by WwE.
I never realized how piss poor the "nwo" was tagged on the belt.
Its damn near completely unreadable.