If it wasn't a hit piece, why release it in the first place? If you were trying to do a positive DVD, and it turned out you mostly had negative stories, why not scrap the project and move on to something else?
My point exactly, but of course Vince being as vindictive and malicious as he can be, knew what the hell he was doing and knew this would destroy his image. Warrior was misunderstood and he wasn't appreciated for all the contributions he made to the wrestling business, and more so that he wasn't appreciated for actually going toe to toe with Hogan during that time which was not easy to do. Vince and company knew what they were doing and of course God forbid that they scrap the project and waste a little money to not shit on a legendary wrestler who made his mark. To this day I still call this a bullshit move and the fact that they brought him 9-10 years later and was wanting to make amends, to me it was them trying to play the good guy and bullshit the whole situation.
Sometimes the truth hurts - that doesnt mean it shouldnt be told. Warrior was an awful person. Period. His death and kissing an making up with Vince ain't gunna change that. Warrior lived the way he did, and if he wanted people to look at him differently, he shouldnt have changed his ways. But he didnt. Ive got an entire wall in my man cave dedicated to the Warrior .... still dont change the facts.
What is missing in Bruce’s memory was that they were asked GUIDING questions, which inevitably biased the feedback to bury him. A clear example is when they asked if he was a “flash in the pan.”
I remember watching the video for the first time and thinking "This is just one giant hit piece". It's so blatantly obvious that they were trying to bury the guy.
Absolutely agree!!! Other wrestlers have even admitted that Vince paid them to shit-talk the Warrior and make him look like a piece of shit. You should do a Metal Mythos on him. He WAS pretty fucking metal.....
One watch of that DVD makes it crystal-clear that it was an organized, calculated hit piece against The Ultimate Warrior and near-unanimously negative in its presentation. The only people interviewed on there who said complimentary things about the Warrior were The Brooklyn Brawler, Chris Jericho, Christian and Edge. I'm not saying that Warrior didn't earn some of the dislike he received for many years (he absolutely did), but for Bruce Prichard to claim that DVD wasn't intended to make Warrior look bad is both ridiculous and patently false.
@@StrikeTeam0316 I don’t deny at all that he said and did awful things before his final years. My only point was that this DVD was an obvious hit piece and Prichard is claiming that it wasn’t. It’s ridiculous.
Prichard states he wasn't directly involved in the dvd and has not watched it. It may have indeed been a hit piece, but Prichard was also a busy dude at that time.
@@davidgraham8299 Yes but the truth is one. At the end it does surface and we all know that this DVD was a hit job. No ammount of bs will try to hide it.
the dvd was at first a double disc and then they cancelled the second disc. when i watched it for the first time i just thought "wow this is assassination of character! why did they even put this out?"
So Jericho said they told him to bury Warrior but Bruce said the DVD was supposed to be positive? Why do you have to be coached to speak honestly on something?
HbK was also loyal to the WWF. Unlike warrior was not horrible in the ring, loved wrestling and payed his dues and didnt sabotage his career by trying in hold Vince up for money twice
@@dante040 actually he wanted to leave vince forced him to stay and he did try to sabotage his own career in the mid to late 90s triple H n vince pretty much saved him from himself in that time frame look it up bro.
They wanted the Ultimate Warrior to participate in a DVD project titled the Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior and were surprised that he wasn't interested.
That was the not the original title of course. It’s been said many times they wanted Warrior to do a DVD about his career, but he refused, so they decided to do one anyways, and as Bruce says, it was so negative, so it got titled what it it did. Which of course IS BS, they buried him when he didn’t want to play ball to do a DVD, plain and simple. Years later when they brought him in for the new DVD and hall of fame, things drastically changed...
WM6 was the first one I watched so it will always be one of my favourites. Always remember the fireworks at the end going off behind the warrior as he was standing in the ring. The match was pretty good as well
Well deserved…Warrior needed WWF way more than WWF needed Warrior and he viewed it the other way around until the year he died…Warrior was a POS and deserved the hit piece tbh lol
What I always have heard WWE told Bret that they going to be making a DVD on him and wanted him to be involved and if he didn't they would make one trashing him like warriors or if he did get involved with it they would make him look good... Good thing for Bret he decided to be involved
@@bigdaddycool28716 Feel like they finally got there hit piece on Macho Man with that recent A&E doc, alluding to him liking younger women, taking steroids/ecstacy, being posssesive and abusive to Elizabeth etc
@@joe77750 I never got to watch that but from what I have heard WWE made him look pretty bad .. I think it's pretty crappy they did something like that years after he died.. it's not someone like Chris Benoit... If you really think about it it's crazy how WWE released one doc about Benoit and it praises him and WWE has put out a couple docs about Macho man and it gets worse as time goes on.... I know the Benoit story is not easy to tell because so much is involved around the last 48hrs of his life and if they got off that road it would be hard not to make him look like a good guy
Image/character wise? Yes. Big. Colorful. And charismatic. However, the real life Jim Helwig? No. He just didn't have the right temperament or mental stability to carry the belt the way Hogan did. And it eventually showed when he idiotically held up Vince for more money and was eventually fired less than a year later.
That DVD was a bonafide, goddamned hit job. I was never Warriors biggest supporter, but that DVD really gave us an insight into the pettiness of WWE. 'The original concept....' my ass, Bruce. You're full of it.
I'm so glad this video popped up in my recommended. Watching my dvd copy right now laughing my ass off. Putting that aside though as a young pre-teen I would love watching him.
Didn't Chris Jericho talk about when he was interviewed for Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior, how he felt uncomfortable because they kept asking questions to get a negative slant out of him?
I don't believe this for a second. This was a total hit piece. Hey, maybe it was deserved but don't pretend this was not a hit piece. Even Jericho said they approached him as a hit piece.
You could easily get 20 former wrestlers to share their experiences of HHH who have nothing good to say about him. Just honest feedback. When is WWE going to produce and release that video ?
Prichard is very talented when it comes to being interviewed. WWE taught him well about how he needs to answer questions to keep the company in a positive light. They did a hit job on the Warrior for not playing ball when he was asked to. Then after they came to amends with the past they put out a positive video for him. What happened to no one had anything positive to say about the Warrior.
This was the most blatant attack on a former wrestler ever. You know Vince thought fuck it, we will kill his credibility, and profit whilst doing it. Id have had more respect for Bruce if he said "fuck Warrior, it was a hit piece, we tried to fuck him".
I remember seeing the advertising for the DVD when I was young, even then it seemed very strange for a wrestling DVD, they never had such a negative vibe from the wwe side
@@ii9714 they actually did one about bret like that it was never released bret talks about it at a live Q and A he did he said when he came back in 06 or 10 someone in video department showed it to him
@@danklordsupreme8864 sorry the truth is boring. He was the one who can actually tell you lol Warrior is nothing but lies, Hogan is half truths, this is real.
Warrior NEVER "Self Destructed" - He was happily married, had a nice family life, never cheated on his partner, was never addicted to any substances, was never arrested for, nor committed any crimes,never owed any money and always paid his taxes. His only "crime" was that he didn't NEED Wrestling to live a full, productive life. This is something that people inside the childish WWE "bubble" can never accept!
Well, how come they can do a positive version once Warrior is back? Doesn't make sense. If they wanted to put him over they would've done it despite what they might've really thought about him.
Funny that people are still upset over that dvd, since so much worse has been said about him in shoot interviews since then. Even the guys who liked him don't deny a lot of the bad stuff.
I was always a fan of his, and it sucks that at his hall of fame speech you can tell that DVD still bothered him. Twice he said it wasn't right and it truly wasn't. They did put him in the hall but it was easy to see he died never fully forgiving WWE for that smear campaign.
The DVD had people featured in it who never worked with Warrior like Edge and Y2J. Edge was bashing Warrior whom was long gone from the WWF when he got there.
Edge & Christian were in the crowd at Wrestlemania 6. Christian liked Warrior but Edge was a big Hogan fan. They told Edge, Christian, & Jericho to bury Warrior. Edge & Christian didn’t really bury him that much but their clips were presented in a way that did.
Chris Jericho said they were told to bury The Ultimate Warrior so this guy is once again lying........Jericho explained while he was in WCW and Hogan, Nash, and Hall would all ignore him and some of the others, When the Warrior signed with WCW and Jericho saw him for the first time, Warrior went over to him told him he likes his work encouraged him to keep working at his gimmick and told him to just ask if he needs anything.....But Jericho still had to bury him as that's what WWE wanted for that dvd.......Says a lot about them all
He was not a horrible human being. He was eccentric and he did not party with the other guys and he kept to himself, which led to resentment. Now did he do some things that pissed some people off and we’re certainly not good for people‘s perception of him? Absolutely. But he is far from being a horrible human being. There are lots of wrestlers who are horrible human beings but warrior is not one of them.
@@hermonymusofspartaYes I’m a mark for warrior. But I’ve seen all the interviews where people talk about him. I’ve read all his posts and watched all his videos. He had the balls to stand up to Vince before it became en vogue. He was not a bad person. My previous comment speaks for itself.
I watched it last night. The extras are 5 matches and 4 small interviews designed to make him look like shit. Lawler and Vince said he couldn't work and was a mental case without any savvy. Christian does a shitty impression of him and Dibiase sounds bitter and self righteous talking about how warrior was going to get karma for not wanting to do a signing w him.
I love the early ultimate warrior he brought so much heat to the ring, And being a big fan of the ultimate warrior I’m glad I have this self-destruction DVD I actually thought it was pretty good knowing that they were deliberately trying to shit on him and put him down if you’re a fan you can see right through it
According to Vince "himself", Warrior was very competitive. Vince describes the locker room as everyman for himself for bigger pay check/family (Hogan and Warrior beef on Always Believe DVD). See for yourself. Bruce and others need to fess up saying they couldn't stand Warriors attitude. Fine. Lying makes them look cheap on Warriors Self Destruction DVD.
If I recall correctly it was a poster advertising Warrior defending the title against Vader or something, the idea being UW was booked to be champ and spat the opportunity back in WWF’s face by no showing events. The dates on the poster may also have been fishy. I could have details wrong but the intent is fairly accurate.
I like Bruce, but this is just hard to listen to and not think he's towing the company line. I own this DVD, and yes it is an ax job on Warrior. From what I remember it was mostly guys who have worked with him (Bruce, Bobby Heenan, Ric Flair, Hogan, HHH, and Vince McMahon). Now to be fair, Jim Cornette, Eric Bischoff, Tony Schiavone, and Jim Ross dont really have much positive to say about Warrior either. Funny enough I recently watched an episode of WrestleMania rewind and the talked about The Ultimate Challenge, and the narrative on that show is like night and day. They talk to Pat Patterson about him seeing Warrior crying after winning the title, Warrior was involved and interviewed for this show, and it didn't discuss how difficult he was to work with. It was the antithesis of this DVD.
yes, the ultimate warrior was an ill conceived indian (native american) gimmick, the word warrior, although sounding generic by today's standards as just somebody who goes to war, was a name given to native american soldiers in their tribes way back in the day, plus the face paint and tassels are a dead giveaway... btw the original golden state warriors logo was an indian guy caricature bouncing a basketball... the more you know
Idc what the DVD said, the Ultimate Warrior was on fire in the 90's, especially before facing Hulk Hogan and in his matches with Macho Man. They tried to bury tf outta Jim.
their match in wcw wasn't in the main event, wasn't for the world title, wasn't at wrestlemania, wasn't in a soldout stadium, it happened 8 years after their wrestlemania match, neither man was wrestling a full time or even a part time schedule and eric bischoff was their boss so there were no expectations or standards, so why should they care?
Self Destruction could have easily been titled "WWE Buries the Ultimate Warrior". I mean, there were some wrestlers talking shit about him in that video who never even worked with the guy. And it always made me laugh when Hogan talked about Warrior bringing up the fact that Hogan had never beaten him being a big no no because apparently you don't bring up the past. Yet in the feud he had with Rowdy Roddy Piper around that time in WCW, both were constantly bringing up their past history with each other. Pretty much that entire video seemed to be scripted in an effort to bury the guy. It was a giant hit piece from start to finish. If the video wasn't going the way they wanted to with the interviews (which as I said above is laughable because some they interviewed hadn't even worked with Warrior), why not just scrap it and move on to the next production? Why turn it into a hit piece unless they were trying to bury him.
Lol so they didn’t intend to bury him, they just decided to do it after everything was filmed. Doesn’t change the fact that the video buried him, Bruce. Conrad: you made a video burying the warrior Bruce: that crazy, of course we didn’t do that! We wanted to make a dvd about him and all the footage was negative. So that’s what we used. It’s like if your wife finds out you slept with another woman Wife: you cheated on me! Husband: of course not! I would never. I just got drunk and blacked out only to wake up in bed with another woman!
Bruce’s logic makes no sense because they also announced Screwed: The Bret Hart Story at the same time they announced The Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior. Bret has spoken at length that one of the conditions for him to make peace with Vince and go into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2004 was complete control of the Bret Hart DVD project. So a hit piece turned into a collection of Bret’s favorite matches from his career and a documentary about his influence on the business. Nothing is more important to Bret than his legacy, and for WWE to publicly announce that DVD is deplorable.
Say what you Will about the ultimate warrior, but he is one of a very select few who told Vince to fuck off and who also demanded fair compensation thus paving the way for future wrestlers to get better pay that they deserved.
Funny how after he passed away WWE put out docs talking good about him but most of the same people was on this doc talking about him like he was a piece of trash.... This doc was a smear campaign 100%... It has ended up over time showing what kind of person Vince is
Bruce Prichard: We wanted Warrior to be part of a documentary we called "The Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior " but he refused! Bruce Pritchard: The intent of this documentary was not to bury the warrior. Me: and the prove is that Edge and Christian and Chris Jericho were involved in the documentary even though they did not worked with warrior! Also, how did the negative view of the warrior turn into praise in the documentaries released by WWE after the warrior inducted into the Hall of Fame?! Suddenly everyone is praising the warrior! this proves that the reason the Self Destruction DVD existed is to bury the warrior
Randy Savage was the only person who was able to fill Hogan's shoes. Savages title run was a huge success. Warrior was unbelievable to me even as a kid. He should have dropped the title to Rick Rude in the cage. At least Rude could work and was believable.
The WWE literally photoshopped a live event poster to feature Warrior on it in the main event, claiming he no-showed that particular date. WWE has no shame when it comes to burying former talent.
I want someone to ask him " how bad them clotheslines hurt when they went from the brother love show to the ring !! they were some of the best !!! it's been removed from the RUclips .
LoL in regards to the Indian question. The Warrior gimmick had a tribal theme. It was a play on the Warrior title. Even as a kid I didn't wonder if the warrior was indian I just thought he was like a tribal character almost like cavemen. Indigenous, yes. Indian, no.
I remember going to a taping of "WWF superstars" shortly after WrestleMania VI. It was a 4 hour show and we saw both Hogan and Warrior several times in different matches or interviews. It was extremely clear that Hogan was still WAY more popular than Warrior. I think it was a good idea at the time to try Warrior as champion but it was clear very quickly he was no Hulk Hogan in terms of drawing power and popularity.
If the purpose was to put Ultimate Warrior over, then have everyone bury him, WWE chose to go forward with the project knowing that this was going to be a hit piece. WWE decided to go forward instead of killing the dvd.
McMahon is a character and a "mark" for himself. Maintaining superiority over all the wrestlers is important to him. If an important wrestler walks away from him or one-ups him or crosses him in public, he is going to whatever it takes for as long as it takes to get that wrestler back crawling on his knees to him. He has been successful in the long run in nearly every case. Even Bruno and Bret Hart eventually came crawling back. Everything Linda McMahon has done in politics and all the money the McMahon's have wasted over the years has been about getting even with Jesse Ventura. The montreal screwjob was always a work in the sense that what happened on TV could never has been put over to the audience as the normal ending of a match. It wasn't really a "screwjob" in that the WWE and Vince Mcmahon openly broke kayfabe after the event about the ending of the match. It can't be a screwjob when the promoter is running around the media proudly talking about how the title was taken away and how "bret screwed bret".
VSSP Prichard’s explanation was that the project was first intended as a ‘positive’ dvd but after all of their interviews came back negative, WWE had a choice to either kill the dvd or go forward. They choose to move forward with a hit piece. McMahon is vindictive until he sees $ to be made with a collaboration.
Jim Tuner As to Bruno and Bret, WWE begged Bruno to come back in order to provide legitimacy to HOF. Notice that since his induction, nothing from Bruno. As to Bret, I think this was a case of a mutual hatchet burying. I don’t believe Bret ‘crawled’ back to WWE. As to the screwjob, I believe it was a shoot and that McMahon did the ‘Bret screwed Bret’ deal to make himself a face to the public because of the initial backlash. When WWE realized that this was impossible, they made McMahon a heel character and the rest is history.
Prichard's explanation is garbage. They didn't make DVDs in that era looking for honest opinions from the talent on wrestlers. WWE DVD interviews are much as a work as any WWE match. The DVD was intended as a hit piece. But they can't admit that because the DVD was the subject of a lawsuit and they have to stick the story they told to the court.
I’m pretty sure like with every other promo and interview in pro wrestling, they’re always told by the booker or promoter what angle or information they want across to the audience, so if they really wanted to put the warrior over in the dvd, they would have.
But they had already "put him over" plenty. I know some people liked him, but he's the reason I stopped watching wrestling in the early 90s. He was just an abjectly terrible wrestler at first. He couldn't sell anything, couldn't work and had a ridiculous gimmick. Some people say he got better, but by then he had already scared me off. Him and Undertaker. Look, dude: I know you're not undead. Can you please just wr....On second thought, never mind. I'll go watch something else. This is very clearly not aimed at me anymore, given how I'm no longer eight years old.
It came out in court and in subsequent leaked documents that the story about Warrior holding Vince ransom and Hulk/Slaughter threatening to straighten out Warrior in the dressing room was a complete fabrication. How could Slaughter/Hogan/Okerlund all tell the same fake story unless it was orchestrated beforehand?
Should have given him more IC title reigns. After he dropped the belt to Slaughter, what more could you do with him..I believe he should have been a heel and been managed by fuji.
There's only two people that know the real full story and one of them is sadly no longer with us. Vince on the other hand would probably have some interesting takes if he was willing to give the full background.
If it wasn't a hit piece, why release it in the first place? If you were trying to do a positive DVD, and it turned out you mostly had negative stories, why not scrap the project and move on to something else?
no shit.
It was set up to be what it is. He's full of shit like always. Because Prichard is a lying company shill who toes the line.
My point exactly, but of course Vince being as vindictive and malicious as he can be, knew what the hell he was doing and knew this would destroy his image. Warrior was misunderstood and he wasn't appreciated for all the contributions he made to the wrestling business, and more so that he wasn't appreciated for actually going toe to toe with Hogan during that time which was not easy to do. Vince and company knew what they were doing and of course God forbid that they scrap the project and waste a little money to not shit on a legendary wrestler who made his mark. To this day I still call this a bullshit move and the fact that they brought him 9-10 years later and was wanting to make amends, to me it was them trying to play the good guy and bullshit the whole situation.
Sometimes the truth hurts - that doesnt mean it shouldnt be told. Warrior was an awful person. Period. His death and kissing an making up with Vince ain't gunna change that. Warrior lived the way he did, and if he wanted people to look at him differently, he shouldnt have changed his ways. But he didnt. Ive got an entire wall in my man cave dedicated to the Warrior .... still dont change the facts.
@Josh Cuthbert Everyone is aware of why he's doing it. Call it political if you want, that doesn't make it any less bullshit.
Bruce never says anything to make Vince look bad. Love the podcast but God dam pal
Hahhah "well god damn pal!"
Well, he did get his job back...
You don’t shit where you eat……..
"Y'all photoshopped posters to make him look bad."
"What photoshopped po-"
"I'll show you later. Anyway..."
What is missing in Bruce’s memory was that they were asked GUIDING questions, which inevitably biased the feedback to bury him. A clear example is when they asked if he was a “flash in the pan.”
It's called a "Leading Question". It's not admissible in a court of law, to give an idea of how it's considered.
Jericho recently said he was specifically told to bury Warrior when he shot his parts for the video
All the stuff HBK did and it came down to Pat Patterson saying '' He could be difficult at times'' on his DVD
Derek D'Arcy WWE is propaganda galore when it comes to so much of their pieces.
Derek D'Arcy shawn was a ass ,a prick,a lil bitch but they cover that up
Years ago I started saying Kayfabe is dead but Vincefabe is stronger than ever.
@@rainman11985 YOU started saying that? You’re so profound!
Ladies. Gentlemen.
This is what 'someone being caught in a lie' sounds like.
The Rageaholic yep.
Not as bad a liar as Trump is, but yeah.
I remember watching the video for the first time and thinking "This is just one giant hit piece". It's so blatantly obvious that they were trying to bury the guy.
Warrior was a cool character but a giant dickbag in real life..
Absolutely agree!!! Other wrestlers have even admitted that Vince paid them to shit-talk the Warrior and make him look like a piece of shit. You should do a Metal Mythos on him. He WAS pretty fucking metal.....
Benny Lockhart I think they were trying to get his attention and somehow bring him out and begin some kind of a conversation with him .
One watch of that DVD makes it crystal-clear that it was an organized, calculated hit piece against The Ultimate Warrior and near-unanimously negative in its presentation. The only people interviewed on there who said complimentary things about the Warrior were The Brooklyn Brawler, Chris Jericho, Christian and Edge. I'm not saying that Warrior didn't earn some of the dislike he received for many years (he absolutely did), but for Bruce Prichard to claim that DVD wasn't intended to make Warrior look bad is both ridiculous and patently false.
And? Warrior was a piece of sh*t
@@StrikeTeam0316 I don’t deny at all that he said and did awful things before his final years. My only point was that this DVD was an obvious hit piece and Prichard is claiming that it wasn’t. It’s ridiculous.
Prichard states he wasn't directly involved in the dvd and has not watched it. It may have indeed been a hit piece, but Prichard was also a busy dude at that time.
@@histochronos If he hadn’t actually watched the DVD, then how is he in a position to comment on how it came across to viewers?
They didn't need a DVD to make ultimate warrior look bad, he could look bad all on his own.
Bruce is such a company man, that he will say any bullshit to tow the line!
Seems like everyone in wrestling has their own version of "the truth".
Everyone has their own version of events. That's life.
Likewise with the fans
@@davidgraham8299 Yes but the truth is one. At the end it does surface and we all know that this DVD was a hit job. No ammount of bs will try to hide it.
the dvd was at first a double disc and then they cancelled the second disc. when i watched it for the first time i just thought "wow this is assassination of character! why did they even put this out?"
I don't understand. I had both discs
There’s two releases. The original was two discs, the second disc featured matches. Why you’d want that…lord only knows.
Clark Kent = Superman
Bruce Pritchard = Yesman
You=not a man
@@TL2354 Aww, that was cute.
Warrior wasn't just a wrestler he was a phenomena.And he carried that swagger post career.Some got a problem with it,tough shit
Underrated comment.
He was a nutcase that took too much growth over the course of his life…all that lifting and shitting on average people came to get him smh
So Jericho said they told him to bury Warrior but Bruce said the DVD was supposed to be positive? Why do you have to be coached to speak honestly on something?
Its called selling
Its called Bruce is full if shit!
That's what triple h told him to say.
5 years later here..and Jericho is a company tool that wants to sell a good story smh
Warrior was right when he said there we're several other train wrecks in WWE history like HBK and they didn't trash him on DVD's.
The difference is HBK stayed with the company Vince values loyalty.
Hbk get his come upins about his time as a asshole during that time with the company plus he owns up to it warrior doesn't
HbK was also loyal to the WWF. Unlike warrior was not horrible in the ring, loved wrestling and payed his dues and didnt sabotage his career by trying in hold Vince up for money twice
@@dante040 actually he wanted to leave vince forced him to stay and he did try to sabotage his own career in the mid to late 90s triple H n vince pretty much saved him from himself in that time frame look it up bro.
@@theamericandreamdave ok so that proves it was a hit job
They wanted the Ultimate Warrior to participate in a DVD project titled the Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior and were surprised that he wasn't interested.
That was the not the original title of course. It’s been said many times they wanted Warrior to do a DVD about his career, but he refused, so they decided to do one anyways, and as Bruce says, it was so negative, so it got titled what it it did. Which of course IS BS, they buried him when he didn’t want to play ball to do a DVD, plain and simple. Years later when they brought him in for the new DVD and hall of fame, things drastically changed...
Right,
Many wrestlers envied The Ultimate Warrior back then, the hell with all of them!
The title was meant to be something else I think but when he refused they changed it.
WM6 was the first one I watched so it will always be one of my favourites. Always remember the fireworks at the end going off behind the warrior as he was standing in the ring. The match was pretty good as well
They tried to bury the Warrior and it came back to haunt them because all of us fans knew it was a hit job.
Well deserved…Warrior needed WWF way more than WWF needed Warrior and he viewed it the other way around until the year he died…Warrior was a POS and deserved the hit piece tbh lol
I remember hearing somewhere that this was to be the first of three DVDs burying wrestlers on Vince's shitlist the others being Bret and Savage.
@Bold One no where, he made that up
@@TL2354 Bullshit, the Bret Hart DVD was going to be called "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story." Bret talks about it in his book.
What I always have heard WWE told Bret that they going to be making a DVD on him and wanted him to be involved and if he didn't they would make one trashing him like warriors or if he did get involved with it they would make him look good... Good thing for Bret he decided to be involved
@@bigdaddycool28716 Feel like they finally got there hit piece on Macho Man with that recent A&E doc, alluding to him liking younger women, taking steroids/ecstacy, being posssesive and abusive to Elizabeth etc
@@joe77750 I never got to watch that but from what I have heard WWE made him look pretty bad .. I think it's pretty crappy they did something like that years after he died.. it's not someone like Chris Benoit... If you really think about it it's crazy how WWE released one doc about Benoit and it praises him and WWE has put out a couple docs about Macho man and it gets worse as time goes on.... I know the Benoit story is not easy to tell because so much is involved around the last 48hrs of his life and if they got off that road it would be hard not to make him look like a good guy
I was a huge wrestling fan in 1990. Warrior was DEFINITELY the right guy to put the belt on at the time.
Image/character wise? Yes. Big. Colorful. And charismatic. However, the real life Jim Helwig? No. He just didn't have the right temperament or mental stability to carry the belt the way Hogan did. And it eventually showed when he idiotically held up Vince for more money and was eventually fired less than a year later.
That DVD was a bonafide, goddamned hit job.
I was never Warriors biggest supporter, but that DVD really gave us an insight into the pettiness of WWE.
'The original concept....' my ass, Bruce. You're full of it.
And? Warrior was a piece of sh*t
I'm so glad this video popped up in my recommended. Watching my dvd copy right now laughing my ass off. Putting that aside though as a young pre-teen I would love watching him.
Didn't Chris Jericho talk about when he was interviewed for Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior, how he felt uncomfortable because they kept asking questions to get a negative slant out of him?
I don't believe this for a second. This was a total hit piece. Hey, maybe it was deserved but don't pretend this was not a hit piece.
Even Jericho said they approached him as a hit piece.
And? Warrior was a piece of sh*t
You could easily get 20 former wrestlers to share their experiences of HHH who have nothing good to say about him. Just honest feedback. When is WWE going to produce and release that video ?
Ill pay to watch it!
Prichard is very talented when it comes to being interviewed. WWE taught him well about how he needs to answer questions to keep the company in a positive light. They did a hit job on the Warrior for not playing ball when he was asked to. Then after they came to amends with the past they put out a positive video for him. What happened to no one had anything positive to say about the Warrior.
And? Warrior was a piece of sh*t
His promo's actually suited his character
He seem like a warrior of valhalla 24*7
Bruce The Company Man Prichard
Bruce is a company man through and through, even if it makes him look bad.
Jericho said it best re Warrior... bury him all you want, we're still going to talk him about because we loved the gimmick.
The dvd was definitely a shit party on the Warrior. It's still somewhat entertaining for what it is.
This was the most blatant attack on a former wrestler ever. You know Vince thought fuck it, we will kill his credibility, and profit whilst doing it. Id have had more respect for Bruce if he said "fuck Warrior, it was a hit piece, we tried to fuck him".
I remember seeing the advertising for the DVD when I was young, even then it seemed very strange for a wrestling DVD, they never had such a negative vibe from the wwe side
This DVD was nothing more then a smear campaign against Warrior.
Total BS. If what Bruce said was true how did they manage another more positive DVD years later?
BRET Hart said Vince told him if you don't enter the 2006 hall of fame will do the same DVD about you
Bruce is full of shit here.
@@ii9714 they actually did one about bret like that it was never released bret talks about it at a live Q and A he did he said when he came back in 06 or 10 someone in video department showed it to him
@@danklordsupreme8864 sorry the truth is boring. He was the one who can actually tell you lol Warrior is nothing but lies, Hogan is half truths, this is real.
By 2:25 I’m saying to myself he’s lying.
In the comments I’m happy to see I’m not alone.
You and others base it on zero facts so you know nothing
@@TL2354 You say that with zero facts, so stick it up your ass.
And? Warrior was a piece of sh*t
Warrior NEVER "Self Destructed" - He was happily married, had a nice family life, never cheated on his partner, was never addicted to any substances, was never arrested for, nor committed any crimes,never owed any money and always paid his taxes. His only "crime" was that he didn't NEED Wrestling to live a full, productive life. This is something that people inside the childish WWE "bubble" can never accept!
Nominee for the wrestling comment of the year
He did cheat on his first wife
"was never addicted to any substances" He had a pill and very obvious steroid problem
He did fucking heaps of blow back in the day dude
@@boidzerg1380 he didn't. Was known for being straight edge and kept to himself
Hearing Jay Strongbow, who was an Indian only because they couldn't get Wahoo, complain about what he considers to be an Indian gimmick is hilarious.
Well, how come they can do a positive version once Warrior is back? Doesn't make sense. If they wanted to put him over they would've done it despite what they might've really thought about him.
Funny that people are still upset over that dvd, since so much worse has been said about him in shoot interviews since then. Even the guys who liked him don't deny a lot of the bad stuff.
I was always a fan of his, and it sucks that at his hall of fame speech you can tell that DVD still bothered him. Twice he said it wasn't right and it truly wasn't. They did put him in the hall but it was easy to see he died never fully forgiving WWE for that smear campaign.
Well... karma is a bitch.
@@ScuzzyBear45 Heart problems effected men in his family
@@derekgaliee4351 then maybe he should have just left the pharmacological boosting alone lol
@@rkevinappier Add Hulk Hogan getting talent High when he was in WCW / NWO !!
The DVD had people featured in it who never worked with Warrior like Edge and Y2J. Edge was bashing Warrior whom was long gone from the WWF when he got there.
Jericho had met Warrior in wcw to his defense.
Edge talked about how big of a fan he was.
No he didn't Warrior was in WCW for like 2 months lol
Christopher Comitini in which Jericho was there, you weren’t, therefore you can’t say they didn’t meet, because you don’t know
Edge & Christian were in the crowd at Wrestlemania 6. Christian liked Warrior but Edge was a big Hogan fan. They told Edge, Christian, & Jericho to bury Warrior. Edge & Christian didn’t really bury him that much but their clips were presented in a way that did.
Poor ol' Bruce spun himself such an epic web of bullshit that he doesn't know which way to go
You worked for the WWE?
I would believe Brother Love More than Bruce Prichard.
Lets not discount the possibility that Ultimate Warrior WAS an asshole. And my money is on that explanation.
Self Destruction of Ultimate Warrior DVD spits in the face of wrestling fans %1000 and i don't think that was good for business.
How? By telling the truth?
Chris Jericho said they were told to bury The Ultimate Warrior so this guy is once again lying........Jericho explained while he was in WCW and Hogan, Nash, and Hall would all ignore him and some of the others, When the Warrior signed with WCW and Jericho saw him for the first time, Warrior went over to him told him he likes his work encouraged him to keep working at his gimmick and told him to just ask if he needs anything.....But Jericho still had to bury him as that's what WWE wanted for that dvd.......Says a lot about them all
Did one on Warrior and wanted to do one on Bret too. My two favourite wrestlers.
Bret would not allow that to come to fruition.
You can tell that Conrad really liked the ultimate Warrior as a child, and it hurts him deeply to hear that Warrior was a horrible human being.
All lies by the way. Just look at all the shoot interview where enough wrestlers speak well about Warrior.
He was not a horrible human being. He was eccentric and he did not party with the other guys and he kept to himself, which led to resentment. Now did he do some things that pissed some people off and we’re certainly not good for people‘s perception of him? Absolutely. But he is far from being a horrible human being. There are lots of wrestlers who are horrible human beings but warrior is not one of them.
@@metaforcesaber because you were there? Seems like you a just a Warrior Mark
@@hermonymusofspartaYes I’m a mark for warrior. But I’ve seen all the interviews where people talk about him. I’ve read all his posts and watched all his videos. He had the balls to stand up to Vince before it became en vogue. He was not a bad person. My previous comment speaks for itself.
I love the questions that Conrad asks here. And Bruce's responses seem genuine. This is a really good listen.
Until you watch it and then realize Bruce isn't being 100%
No he’s not. He’s being a typical company man as usual.
I watched it last night. The extras are 5 matches and 4 small interviews designed to make him look like shit. Lawler and Vince said he couldn't work and was a mental case without any savvy. Christian does a shitty impression of him and Dibiase sounds bitter and self righteous talking about how warrior was going to get karma for not wanting to do a signing w him.
And Dibiase is supposed to be a preacher. Lol
I love the early ultimate warrior he brought so much heat to the ring, And being a big fan of the ultimate warrior I’m glad I have this self-destruction DVD I actually thought it was pretty good knowing that they were deliberately trying to shit on him and put him down if you’re a fan you can see right through it
I have never liked Conrad till this video. I’m now a fan
Best match but not a great ending was Warrior vs Savage Summerslam 92!
True, the ending was pretty poor for these two characters!
According to Vince "himself", Warrior was very competitive. Vince describes the locker room as everyman for himself for bigger pay check/family (Hogan and Warrior beef on Always Believe DVD). See for yourself. Bruce and others need to fess up saying they couldn't stand Warriors attitude. Fine. Lying makes them look cheap on Warriors Self Destruction DVD.
I've watched 95% of y'alls podcasts and this is one of the few times I feel Bruce is lying. Why would Chris Jericho lie?
One of the few times?! I love this podcast but Bruce is so full of shit at LEAST half the time.
You billed him from parts unknown what did you think his promos would be ffs always a warrior
Ultimate warrior won, you can tell when they made the dvd they were bitter, so they tried their best to trash him and failed
Bruce Pritchard is the Phillip Seymour Hoffman sycophant character that you need for the show!
So what were the Photoshopped posters?
If I recall correctly it was a poster advertising Warrior defending the title against Vader or something, the idea being UW was booked to be champ and spat the opportunity back in WWF’s face by no showing events. The dates on the poster may also have been fishy. I could have details wrong but the intent is fairly accurate.
the one claiming he would be WWF Champion in June 1996....when they just crowned HBK in April
I like Bruce, but this is just hard to listen to and not think he's towing the company line. I own this DVD, and yes it is an ax job on Warrior. From what I remember it was mostly guys who have worked with him (Bruce, Bobby Heenan, Ric Flair, Hogan, HHH, and Vince McMahon). Now to be fair, Jim Cornette, Eric Bischoff, Tony Schiavone, and Jim Ross dont really have much positive to say about Warrior either. Funny enough I recently watched an episode of WrestleMania rewind and the talked about The Ultimate Challenge, and the narrative on that show is like night and day. They talk to Pat Patterson about him seeing Warrior crying after winning the title, Warrior was involved and interviewed for this show, and it didn't discuss how difficult he was to work with. It was the antithesis of this DVD.
Tony Atlas and Papa Shango have said positive things about UW years ago.
John Tenta (Earthquake) had nothing but glowing praise for him in an interview he did with Wrestlecrap years and years ago.
yes, the ultimate warrior was an ill conceived indian (native american) gimmick, the word warrior, although sounding generic by today's standards as just somebody who goes to war, was a name given to native american soldiers in their tribes way back in the day, plus the face paint and tassels are a dead giveaway... btw the original golden state warriors logo was an indian guy caricature bouncing a basketball... the more you know
Hogan carried Warrior at WM 6. No question. Best Hogan match I ever saw.
Pat Patterson carried it, they worked then and didn't have Pat as the agent.
best match for hogan is with the warrior and best match for the warrior is with randy savage
Agreed. And I can't stand Hogan.
Yeeee-aaah...*eyebrow raised*
Idc what the DVD said, the Ultimate Warrior was on fire in the 90's, especially before facing Hulk Hogan and in his matches with Macho Man. They tried to bury tf outta Jim.
Legend gone too soon
their match in wcw wasn't in the main event, wasn't for the world title, wasn't at wrestlemania, wasn't in a soldout stadium, it happened 8 years after their wrestlemania match, neither man was wrestling a full time or even a part time schedule and eric bischoff was their boss so there were no expectations or standards, so why should they care?
Self Destruction could have easily been titled "WWE Buries the Ultimate Warrior". I mean, there were some wrestlers talking shit about him in that video who never even worked with the guy. And it always made me laugh when Hogan talked about Warrior bringing up the fact that Hogan had never beaten him being a big no no because apparently you don't bring up the past. Yet in the feud he had with Rowdy Roddy Piper around that time in WCW, both were constantly bringing up their past history with each other.
Pretty much that entire video seemed to be scripted in an effort to bury the guy. It was a giant hit piece from start to finish.
If the video wasn't going the way they wanted to with the interviews (which as I said above is laughable because some they interviewed hadn't even worked with Warrior), why not just scrap it and move on to the next production? Why turn it into a hit piece unless they were trying to bury him.
And? Warrior was a piece of sh*t
The title of the dvd speaks for itself
I have that DVD. They ripped Warrior up in that one!
How bad was it? I heard it was extremely brutal
Lol so they didn’t intend to bury him, they just decided to do it after everything was filmed. Doesn’t change the fact that the video buried him, Bruce.
Conrad: you made a video burying the warrior
Bruce: that crazy, of course we didn’t do that! We wanted to make a dvd about him and all the footage was negative. So that’s what we used.
It’s like if your wife finds out you slept with another woman
Wife: you cheated on me!
Husband: of course not! I would never. I just got drunk and blacked out only to wake up in bed with another woman!
And? Warrior was a piece of sh*t
Pretty sure Warrior was suing WWE at the time of the DVD
Rest of Locker room Jealous of a good looking dude great body energy
@@NickJC1086 people spiking your food and drink is professional?? !!! I Don't blame him I would not be near them either
Vince: Jump.
Bruce: Off which cliff, Sir?
If t was positive then why was Flair asked if he thought Ultimate Warrior was a flash in the pan?? That line in the dvd was NOT positive Bruce 🤦🏻♂️
Hogan is a professional and a pleasure to have in the ring.
No one cry’s more then Conrad.
@VSSP why**
Bruce’s logic makes no sense because they also announced Screwed: The Bret Hart Story at the same time they announced The Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior. Bret has spoken at length that one of the conditions for him to make peace with Vince and go into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2004 was complete control of the Bret Hart DVD project. So a hit piece turned into a collection of Bret’s favorite matches from his career and a documentary about his influence on the business. Nothing is more important to Bret than his legacy, and for WWE to publicly announce that DVD is deplorable.
Say what you Will about the ultimate warrior, but he is one of a very select few who told Vince to fuck off and who also demanded fair compensation thus paving the way for future wrestlers to get better pay that they deserved.
Funny how after he passed away WWE put out docs talking good about him but most of the same people was on this doc talking about him like he was a piece of trash.... This doc was a smear campaign 100%... It has ended up over time showing what kind of person Vince is
An Indian gimmick, - Bruce “What?” Hahaha
Bruce Prichard: We wanted Warrior to be part of a documentary we called "The Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior " but he refused!
Bruce Pritchard: The intent of this documentary was not to bury the warrior.
Me: and the prove is that Edge and Christian and Chris Jericho were involved in the documentary even though they did not worked with warrior!
Also, how did the negative view of the warrior turn into praise in the documentaries released by WWE after the warrior inducted into the Hall of Fame?! Suddenly everyone is praising the warrior! this proves that the reason the Self Destruction DVD existed is to bury the warrior
I heard WWE were supposed to do a retrospective of Bret Hart called screwed the Bret hart story .
Randy Savage was the only person who was able to fill Hogan's shoes. Savages title run was a huge success. Warrior was unbelievable to me even as a kid. He should have dropped the title to Rick Rude in the cage. At least Rude could work and was believable.
Savage a champ sold much more tickets the warrior did in house shows a champ but nowhere near as much as Hogan did as champ.
The WWE literally photoshopped a live event poster to feature Warrior on it in the main event, claiming he no-showed that particular date. WWE has no shame when it comes to burying former talent.
I want someone to ask him " how bad them clotheslines hurt when they went from the brother love show to the ring !! they were some of the best !!! it's been removed from the RUclips .
LoL in regards to the Indian question. The Warrior gimmick had a tribal theme. It was a play on the Warrior title. Even as a kid I didn't wonder if the warrior was indian I just thought he was like a tribal character almost like cavemen. Indigenous, yes. Indian, no.
I remember going to a taping of "WWF superstars" shortly after WrestleMania VI. It was a 4 hour show and we saw both Hogan and Warrior several times in different matches or interviews. It was extremely clear that Hogan was still WAY more popular than Warrior. I think it was a good idea at the time to try Warrior as champion but it was clear very quickly he was no Hulk Hogan in terms of drawing power and popularity.
Really ?? Look at past matches & Merchandise Matched Hulk Hogan's
If the purpose was to put Ultimate Warrior over, then have everyone bury him, WWE chose to go forward with the project knowing that this was going to be a hit piece. WWE decided to go forward instead of killing the dvd.
McMahon is a character and a "mark" for himself. Maintaining superiority over all the wrestlers is important to him. If an important wrestler walks away from him or one-ups him or crosses him in public, he is going to whatever it takes for as long as it takes to get that wrestler back crawling on his knees to him. He has been successful in the long run in nearly every case. Even Bruno and Bret Hart eventually came crawling back.
Everything Linda McMahon has done in politics and all the money the McMahon's have wasted over the years has been about getting even with Jesse Ventura.
The montreal screwjob was always a work in the sense that what happened on TV could never has been put over to the audience as the normal ending of a match. It wasn't really a "screwjob" in that the WWE and Vince Mcmahon openly broke kayfabe after the event about the ending of the match.
It can't be a screwjob when the promoter is running around the media proudly talking about how the title was taken away and how "bret screwed bret".
VSSP Prichard’s explanation was that the project was first intended as a ‘positive’ dvd but after all of their interviews came back negative, WWE had a choice to either kill the dvd or go forward. They choose to move forward with a hit piece. McMahon is vindictive until he sees $ to be made with a collaboration.
Jim Tuner As to Bruno and Bret, WWE begged Bruno to come back in order to provide legitimacy to HOF. Notice that since his induction, nothing from Bruno. As to Bret, I think this was a case of a mutual hatchet burying. I don’t believe Bret ‘crawled’ back to WWE.
As to the screwjob, I believe it was a shoot and that McMahon did the ‘Bret screwed Bret’ deal to make himself a face to the public because of the initial backlash. When WWE realized that this was impossible, they made McMahon a heel character and the rest is history.
Prichard's explanation is garbage. They didn't make DVDs in that era looking for honest opinions from the talent on wrestlers. WWE DVD interviews are much as a work as any WWE match. The DVD was intended as a hit piece. But they can't admit that because the DVD was the subject of a lawsuit and they have to stick the story they told to the court.
I’m pretty sure like with every other promo and interview in pro wrestling, they’re always told by the booker or promoter what angle or information they want across to the audience, so if they really wanted to put the warrior over in the dvd, they would have.
But they had already "put him over" plenty. I know some people liked him, but he's the reason I stopped watching wrestling in the early 90s. He was just an abjectly terrible wrestler at first. He couldn't sell anything, couldn't work and had a ridiculous gimmick. Some people say he got better, but by then he had already scared me off. Him and Undertaker. Look, dude: I know you're not undead. Can you please just wr....On second thought, never mind. I'll go watch something else. This is very clearly not aimed at me anymore, given how I'm no longer eight years old.
I felt the "indian" elements are akin to a Shaman.
They shitted on him bad and had to come back and redo his dvd
It came out in court and in subsequent leaked documents that the story about Warrior holding Vince ransom and Hulk/Slaughter threatening to straighten out Warrior in the dressing room was a complete fabrication. How could Slaughter/Hogan/Okerlund all tell the same fake story unless it was orchestrated beforehand?
The rough industry destroyed him because he didn't want to be flogged and abused. Wrestlers back then didn't speak up Warrior did
I'm convinced Bruce doesn't know anything!!!!😂
He’s an Airhead. Lol
Should have given him more IC title reigns. After he dropped the belt to Slaughter, what more could you do with him..I believe he should have been a heel and been managed by fuji.
Why does Conrad always talk like he was there? Like he was relative in the business at anytime. He might’ve been 10 when this match happened.
There's only two people that know the real full story and one of them is sadly no longer with us. Vince on the other hand would probably have some interesting takes if he was willing to give the full background.