2017 Personality 14: Introduction to Traits/Psychometrics/The Big 5
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2017
- In this lecture, I begin discussing the development of modern trait theory. Psychologists, expert in measurement and statistics, discovered extraversion, neuroticism, agreeableness, conscientiousness and openness to experience, and began the process of delineating their social significance and biological underpinnings.
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I skipped lunch one time and attended this lecture (I worked around there). I asked him for permission to sit in, and he just said, ‘of course!’.
were you the guy without the laptop asking the question?
Awesome!
Wwoooooowwww
I'm so jealous!
I would love to have that opportunity!
at first i thought "how lucky do you have to be to sit in the classroom of dr. peterson?" then i thought "how lucky am i to be able to watch his lessons from home?"
jan409 Luckier sitting there. Else you cant ask a question.
@adorinadorin you can ask him questions anytime you want he will reply to you personally or answer them in one of his Q&As
Yes, however it would be amazing to sit with him in class.
and I'm like "how lucky am I to be able to rewatch it as many times as I need to understand it"
lol yes
**Have lots of university lectures to watch**
**Feel lazy; procrastinate by watching university lectures**
ADHD in a nutshell
Same
Relatable
Real interest
Jordan Peterson actually explained that symptom.
The only professor that can just post a raw video of his regular class lectures on RUclips and get millions of views.
Robert sapolstky
@@samlechuga4569 This man knows.
@@dennisbaeza3922 Absolutely. Robert Sapolsky is really adding some value. Peterson is just giving a lecture on stuff you can find in any introductory psychology textbook and not even presented in a very scientific way since he just ignores all the caveats in order to follow a nice narrative. :-D
Check out Stanford University --- Robert Sapolsky --- biology and neurology related to psychology
@@samlechuga4569 My immediate thought😂🔥🔥
This index is for my own reference, but hope it helps for you too!
10:19 What is personality? A trait is an element of personality (describable stable elements that characterize you)
16:30 What are these 5 dimensions, exactly? Think of them as a frame of reference...
17:58 [GOLD] Your capacity to expand your ability past the initial constraints of your biological temperament is the development of character or wisdom.
20:43 Traits are patterns of behaviour...
22:37 What people are is a melody of traits
23:16 It's useful to know your traits so that you can orient your life, it's difficult to work contrary to your traits
24:00 [GOLD] Really good summary of the traits in relation to "partners"
32:36 Linguistic Hypothesis
41:35 Openness, entrepreneurship, creativity
44:00 Negative correlation between creativity and grad school performance
46:35 You need to have some creative wingnuts in your organization to come up with some completely absurd ideas that might just on the off-chance be true.
Mat C thank you!
Thank you!
U r a blessing to mankind
Thank you for the list. It's a great help. I do have to point out an error Peterson made. At 22:37 he really does say "melody", but he apparently meant "medley". Not a huge mistake, but he does have some malapropisms occasionally. One is pronouncing "Karamazov" accenting the second syllable.
Thank you!
*O*penness to experience, *C*onscientiousness, *E*xtraversion, *A*greeableness, *N*euroticism - OCEAN - The ocean of traits
is this comment a sign of orderliness or creativity?
@@aconfusedshoe6240 creativity
Thanks Henry! I love the way you sea it... 😊
شكرا
@@aconfusedshoe6240 Nothing at all, it's a common way people use to remember it and the guy didn't figure it out by himself most likely
His brain is like an Xtreme Athletes Body. Never quits, tackles every obstacle. Sheer confidence. Trains for the Event.
So how do ye sleep at night?
Isaac Sousa ?
Meth grindset
After a lot of lectures you get used to that level of abstraction and it becomes quite boring, roughly speaking. so if you're interested in tackling you're brain I'd recommend pure advanced maths.
1 cleaned my room
2 sorted myself out
3 saved my father from the belly of the whale
Well done! I'm struggling so hard on no1
Nicholas Ryan Ok. But I would like to inspect your room.
now you must defeat the dragon and become a beast women want to civilize.
I lost an eye.... Slayed the Dragon... Got the virgin and the gold.
And the nose stays the same
My friends and I are “taking” this course and plan to meet to discuss once a month. So much better than an Oprah book club lol;) Thanks for all you do, Dr.Peterson!
Did you all raise your hand when he asked how many extroverts present? :)
To be honest, most of his lessons cover what most intro to Psychology classes cover. It's not new knowledge, but what is truly phenomenal is his knack at sharing these lessons in a coherent, comprehensive way. In fact, most of his examples go above and beyond and truly take some of these concepts to the next level to truly grasp the concepts firmly. He's certainly a well read individual who clearly shows his passion and zeal for his work through his speech. Well done.
Function is not a bravery of firepower.
I'm happy so see a nicely balanced point of view on those lectures. I don't get what people find special about these lectures. I've watched them carefully and I don't see why this is any better then just getting an average book on differential psychology. You'll find there the same information and with way more caveats than Peterson presents here. I really miss all the exceptions and caveats you need to make since scientific knowledge is by far not as settled as Peterson presents it. Yes, the big 5 traits are useful, robust and so on. Everything correct, but there is still a huge scientific discussion going on one shouldn't ignore at a serious university level… At least in Germany, our average psychology students have a more complex view on the psychology of personality after their second or third semester than what is presented here in the lecture… But I totally respect your opinion on how he makes things coherent which I assume many professors don't manage since they are often bad lecturers.
I'm not a troll or trying to pick a fight with you; what I'm about to say will most likely be taken negatively instead of constructively.. That being said ..
"To be Honest" - How ideal to start that as just that has so many implications of not being honest or from an honest person that it's literally in legal guides as words to avoid and why. I'm not taking the time to provide links for this Because I'm not exaggerating. I'm sure anyone will easily find the information with little effort on their part.
Now for the rest.
[Personally Note I don't have a good or bad opinion of the man & I don't follow his work to form my own actual opinion of him professionally.]
The comment you gave is an empty compliment filled with empty insights and I say this because: if they were genuine, they'd be followed with at least one direct personal reason of why the person believes such.
Everything there is pretty empty compliments without basis like adverts for spam sites. Big pretty meaningful words with absolutely nothing there that indicates outside of your personal self to others if any of it is genuinely meant beyond looking like an intellectual. AGAIN Literally not ONE good example of why your compliments are there. If you think I'm not very nice for this, note that bit on "what most intro into psychology classes cover" is probably the only bit of this I can tell you is up in the air as we are all just human no ones flawless. That implying of YOU KNOW FACTUALLY what you're speaking of when it at least comes to beginning to introductory psychology SETS UP AN EXPECTATION for someone reading to see examples of why they should also share that view.
If it was only you personally complimenting him aloud - you'd still be expected by anyone listening or reading to explain why you think thats still. Why? Because we don't live in a world without posers, self inflating behaviors with alternative intentions outside of whats said at the time, Psychological disorders, and Intense Personality Traits. Im sure I made my point clear on the why and if I need to be more specific I'll do it now - Disgenuine people are always something everyone will encounter, find themselves influenced by in life at least once (unless they're somehow able to be under a rock for real from birth to death without any other person ever interacting with them).
So to shorten this novel up - For someone trying to pitch an intellectually complimenting view of the Man here - you more made yourself look better only by giving those vague but attentive sounding compliments.
I'm not a professional in the field of Psychology. I'm a hobbiest with a passion as well as a regular patient throughout life. I don't tend to use what is on average referred to jestingly as "fancy" vocabulary; I understand it very well however despite my lack of adoption.
This is My genuine insight on your insight on the speaker in the video. (I haven't retained his name to memory yet).
Do you notice at all that I explained why I had my opinion for the judgments i was making l far less vaguely than you (yaboighadi) had with whats supposed to be your "honest" opinion of the gentleman in question? Opinions need the judgments that formed them, and being that vague on those too is nothing but a red flag for someone aware in a conversation. Another way I can describe it is it's words without sustenance.
In any case there's no way to put it in a "nice" way because nice is JUST being intentionally ignorant of reality in hopes "to keep the peace" in interactions.
These "judgmental explanations" I've given on my judgments of your post "YaBoighandi" however are there ONLY because of social psychology/profiling.. hell you could find a hanful in just those "how to know if someone's lying to you" vids that retired fbi/government profilers share freely.
@@hkl103 omg ty for sharing your genuine opinions! I appreciated that while reading!
@@Celestiona To begin with "I'm not...trying to pick a fight with you," what a lazy way to dismiss the fact that your comment was aggressive, anyone can see the frustration in it.
Secondly I have absolutely no reason to provide YOU with an answer. You're an anonymous person commenting on a year-old comment about my appreciation for a lecture. I've expressed myself under my own criteria, not yours. If you go by that criteria for posting a comment on RUclips of all platforms, go right ahead. My own comments will be executed under my own conditions, and will be genuine regardless of your point of view. Good day, Eris.
Thank you Jordan for sharing your knowledge to the masses.
Funny, though, that his theory has no applicability to the masses.
Kevin Hornbuckle Good thing therapists don't do too much group therapy to "The masses"....Isn't it?
vingag128 m
What’s Mr. Peterson’s theory?
One works WITH the masses, not TO them. Prepositional orientation is important.
Thank you for sharing your lectures. I'm currently a student, but I do not have the time or money to take all of the classes that I find interesting. Online lectures enable me to educate myself on my own time and without paying the exorbitant tuition it would cost me to take these classes formally.
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I watch his lectures to actually learn. The Psych courses I've been taking to finish my applied Psych degree focus mostly on gender, politics and social justice....ALL THE POSSIBLE TOPICS for just abnormal psych...and every discussion and assignment had to relate to social justice (mainly gender). So, to actually learn, I watch his lectures and others and develop my own theories based on my life of observing people and assessing myself.
@@gl3618 All of my friends who majored in psych are now brainwashed drones with amped up neuroses. It's really sad. They didn't start that way.
@@thistles funny part is, I switched from criminal justice after two classes because they were too politicized. Why have a criminal justice program if you're going to badmouth the profession? Haha
It’s noteworthy to keep in mind there are many powerful and influential individuals aggressively trying to silence him because they’re terrified that his views will enable and encourage people to think for themselves. If you’re incredulously asking yourself, “why would anyone want to mute a boring old psychology lesson,” know this: The most frightening thing to people trying to push a narrative is an individual who can enable others to think for themselves.
He upset the Communist applecart, it's basically them.
I upset some of them and they do the same to me, despite I am tiny in comparison to the great Dr P!
I'm glad I got to Dr Peterson first, before the rat commies got to me! They cannot brainwash me now :) Down with the fascists!
Psychological interpretation of the Bible from BEGINNING TO END?
Dr. Peterson, you spoil us. Please tape it.
What a workaholic!
He's already done a series of lectures on Genesis, and they are available on his website. He'd hoped to do Exodus next, but I suspect his speaking tours have interfered with getting that done.
The whole Bible series is available on this channel
Spike294 lol
His genesis series changed my life
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[00:25:00] - agreeable/disagreeable
[00:27:00] - Industrious
[00:40:00] - Conscientiousness
@@PeopleHealthTru Cleary you don't understand the material then. He's providing a definition to agreeable giving the context. And it's also a fact that if you never ask for a raise, regardless of how well you work, your going to make less than people who do ask for a raise.
Thanks
17:45 "Your capacity to expand your abilities past the initial constraints of your biological temperament is something like the development of character and wisdom. It expands the domain of your competence. Naturally,when you are born, you are set at a certain place with some range around it, and as you grow and mature, if you choose to develop your ability, you can expand that range, even though the place at which you are set doesn't move that much" (so basically everyone has a natural mode at which they operate and a certain area within which they can expand and grow. You can cover a wider range and move around between the 2 ends, but your natural mode, or your comfort zone, will most likely, more or less stay the same.)
19:59 your underlying fundamental psychological traits determine or influence your value structures and tend to set your goals
20:43 traits are patterns of behaviour. You can extract out personality by looking at people's microactions as well
21:40 how people choose to define their biography and characterize their lives shows what they value and thus, what traits they have. Because the higher you are (score) on a given trait, the higher you value the opportunities associated with it
23:02 your personality is the melody of traits, and how they manifest themselves. Its useful to understand what traits constitute your personality so that
# you can find out and identify your strengths and weakness,
# and how you should orient your life,
# choose environments and jobs that align with your traits,
# choose a partner who would gel well with your disposition so that the relationship lasts and you both don't drive each other mad 30:10
26:41 who is a conscientious person?? Industrious and orderly. What makes a person industrious?...they find it unpleasant and unsettling to not be doing something. It's not that being Industrious makes them happy...its just that they can't stand sitting idle doing nothing. Ethical obligation to share the product of your labour with other humans. They feel bad if they aren't being busily productive doing something all the time. They are gonna work like mad. Being with unconscientious people might make them relax a bit and loosen up, but mostly they'd just get mad and annoyed by the messiness and the laid back nature of the unconscientious people, and would constantly be picking up after them
33:39 linguistic hypothesis. It's possible to extract out what constitutes personality by looking at the linguistic representation of descriptors insofar as they are encapsulated in language. (So basically, as long as there is a word describing the trait, you can use the adjective/descriptor to define someone's personality) and the big5 model assumes that all the traits have been described by the language, (so basically, all traits that exist have an adjective that describes them) and so, they assume that model is pretty much comprehensive and covers all areas of personality and that is sort of a limiting assumption but it atleast gives us somewhere to start so ok
35:10 how do you tell if a psychological concept is real?? What is exist?? *Construct validation.* How is an abstract construct similar and different to other constructs??
37:29 self serving bias
40:16 why people enter political discussion 》1) to impose their temperament and views on the world 2) to engage in dialogue with people who are quite different than they are
40:51 army men temperament 》really high conscientiousness (since the environment requires it) but they also need to use their own minds and make tough calls on their own as well but that isn't their forte so they will have a hard time doing it
Entrepreneurs have the opposite profile 》high openness, low conscientiousness
43:06 correlation between grades and creativity is zero (maybe even negative) since creative people step outside of the evaluation measure, because the creative person is gonna do things in way that is so different and unique that it will not show up on the evaluation measure (noone will have any idea as to what to do with their work as it doesn't meet the "norm"
44:55 science tends to progress incrementally, one tiny microstep at a time, not in great leaps (tho, every now and then someone like Einstein shows up and blows the structure so that it advances drastically)
Most of the time, You are in a discipline, you understand the discipline and then you are able to know the next micro question that needs to be answered. Science (or anything that has a structure like that, of rules that need to be applies, eg: law, entrepreneurship) allows the normal, non-Einstein people to make a change, real advancements in the generation of knowledge, by making tiny incremental changes, one step at a time. It doesn't matter if a 1000 people are doing it.
*so, conscientiousness is the best predictor for succeeding in most fields*
46:06 but you need some creative wingnuts so as to ensure that some crazy psychopath doesn't steer all the conscientious people busily working hard, sticking to the same track, in the wrong direction.
46:49 Creativity is a high risk high return game. But the probability of your highly valuable flopping is higher
If you wanna engage in a creative pursuit, you need a combination of creativity, a network of people who have the skills that you don't, a knowledge of the market and how it works (I guess that was the point of the kdrama Start Up).
Very helpful as I watch this lecture thanks for this
Thank you !
Thank you very much
There is so much gold in the comments. Thank you for this.
I pray that Peterson releases a dating app based off the big 5 🙏
In an interview he discusses how his daughter used to make her boyfriends take personality tests, not the worst idea in the world.
In an interview he discusses how his daughter used to make her boyfriends take personality tests, not the worst idea in the world.
Matt Methodous me too
You mean you lack the capacity to judge someone's ability yourself?
Link to said interview?
Great lecture! I am highly creative, but it took me maaany years to get disciplined and structured enough to make a good living from the things I have created. I had to balance my brain. That's not easy.
I'm struggling with this. I have high liquid intelligence but adhd and dyslexia. It is very hard for me to stay organized which doesn't fair well in today's societal employment. Even though I am a better problem solver my failures of small mundane details often hold myself back.
i’m struggling with this as a teenage girl right now, can you tell me how you got disciplined and structured and balanced your brain? please
How did you balance your brain?. I'm really creative and find it hard to be disciplined and it's holding me back.
Love these videos!
The formula for balance in a relationship, as I've found it, are kindness and respect. My wife and I are about 85% opposites, we've been married for 21 years and have 4 teenagers/young adults (16-20) - and our children have never witnessed us fighting. In fact, we don't fight, even though we disagree and have different worldviews. She's a Christian, school teacher, even-tempered and has never tried illicit substances; I'm a biker, pagan, excitable, and smoked my way through school. We present our positions, listen to each other, and are both willing to compromise. We respect each other's views because they are formed from those differing worldviews, and although we may not agree we still show kindness to each other, which makes compromise much easier.
Shane Higgs You are the exception. The varied traits that make up most personalities are more likely to clash. I suspect you both are high in agreeability and intelligence, which allows you to maneuver around the other contrasting traits.
I would imagine that your disagreements are your fights. They just happen to have less intensity then many others. Disagreements mean that you both stand your ground when one of you does not want something and that keeps resentment from consuming the relationship.
TL:DR you have a healthy relationship.
Me and my wife took the linked personality test in the description and based off some of the underlying tones of how opposite we are it is basically saying that we should not get married to avoid the type of fights we have been having for 14 years. Should have saved my $9.95, we both knew that. But we created some wicked smart hydbrid children that keep us from talking alot so we make it work. Lmao
Finding him at my 20s is the best thing happened to me. And the personality test I've taken is the best thing I've done fr myself.
Can't thank him enough. ♥️
Dear Jordan, you are one of the great thinkers of our time. Your talks are enlightening! Please keep up the great work that you are doing. Thank you.
I don't get what people find so special about these lectures. I've watched them carefully and I don't see why this is any better then just getting an average book on differential psychology. You'll find there the same information and with way more caveats than Peterson presents here. I really miss all the exceptions and caveats you need to make since scientific knowledge is by far not as settled as Peterson presents it. Yes, the big 5 traits are useful, robust and so on. Everything correct, but there is still a huge scientific discussion going on one shouldn't ignore at a serious university level… At least in Germany, our average psychology students have a more complex view on the psychology of personality after their second or third semester than what is presented here in the lecture…
@@hkl103 You know the saying 'think how dumb the average person is, now imagine that half of the population is even dumber' what makes you think that any one of us has picked a book on psychology? Furthermore don't you think that there may be a lot of selfishness involved in worshiping of Jordan Peterson? Think of it this way
I, an individual love listening to Jordan Peterson, one of greatest thinkers of our time (interesting assessment, it would be logical to assume that the person stating that has a leaderboard of great thinkers of our times and, furthermore could prolly compare them with some thinkers from the past...while my inner pessimist is dead convinced that J.P. is the only current thinker the person knows, or one of the few) his words of invite wisdom bring peace and joy to my soul, enlighten my darkest nights with fire of knowledge. I'm glad to have intellect capable of comprehending what this great individual preaches"
point i'm making here is that I believe there is a lot of self praise in stating that the people you surround yourself with, whether in real life or online, people who are intelligent, because if you weren't intelligent yourself you wouldn't get a thing they're saying.
Furthermore you apear to be surprised by human stupidity in year 2021, in a year where people are willing to pay premium for apple products which in terms of raw performance are usually worse than other state of the art devices for quarter of the prices less, and the only cause of that is (I believe) marketing (brand loyalty maybe too? Idek, as a feeble man that I am I think its just marketing) so I don't really get why people wouldn't fall for marketing here too, not saying JP is a sellout bu he sure as hell does sell better than other 'intellectuals', just like apple products, he's more appealing. Also regarding human stupidity a decent chunk of my generation appears to be honestly sold on the social issues giant companies 'discuss'. I mean I too would trust people who exploit child labour and value profits over anything to lecture me about social issues, who wouldn't. Honestly if Hitler and Stalin were alive today they would stand and marvel and the propaganda/brainwashing machines we have in place now, at my workplace there people saying that "THE GOVERNEMNT IS EXPIREMENTING ON OUR DNA WITH THE NEWEST VACCINES!" and in the same launch break someone, unironically was reading out loud and article which said that 'everybody whos vaccinated will be dead withing 6 months', so there's that. You want to be astonished by personality cults? Google Paul Joseph Watson (or his second channel "anything goes") and tell me how in god's name did this guy get any following, only thing he does is shout at the camera and then bundle a bunch of random events with self provided explanation and build a narrative that he pulled out of his own ass.
Sorry for the long answer but I just wanted to say what I think about this, I find this staggering too however not in case of JP, he's generally a good guy from what I see but people such as Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro or Paul Joseph Watson, the fact that these have a following, despite being blatant liars is what amazes me, hope you find this atleast somewhat helpful, I don't really have difficulties figuring out 'how are/were we so stupid?' when we take into account... I wanted to say 'the fact' but I will stick with 'scientific consensus', that apes are our relatives.
Have a great day and I'm looking forward to your reply, ausfiedersehn! ... or however you type that.
JP is a very smart man but in these lectures, he is only quoting what is accepted by science
@@hkl103 Aside from the relevance and timeliness of his lectures, he is also more captivating than an average psychology book. He is very articulate and speaks with passion so people get interested. stop policing people who admire him. They learn and get help from him. There's nothing wrong with that.
It's amazing how accurately one's scores on the big 5 predict one's behaviour in a given social situation, and in particular perfectly explain the conflicting feelings and impulses one experiences. I'm extremely high in openness, high in introversion, high in neuroticism, and pretty high in agreeableness. When I'm at a party, for example, I have a constant tension between interest in, and fear of, other people. On one level, I'm regarding others as potential sources of horrible emotional pain (viz, rejection), and therefore experiencing a high level of social anxiety (neuroticism). On another level, I have a desire to ingratiate myself with everyone (agreeableness). On another level, I'm constantly on the lookout for anyone with whom I can have an interesting, meaningful or philosophical conversation, and if I do find someone, I get ridiculously happy and excited and feel I've had a valuable and rewarding experience (openness); if I don't click with anyone, and particularly if anyone reacts badly to me, I leave in a state of complete emotional turmoil, and feeling like a failed and disfunctional human being (neuroticism again). Either way I come out of it exhausted, most likely with a headache, and have to spend several hours afterwards, and much of the next day, just processing and analysing everything that happened. Then I avoid social interaction for the next two weeks (introversion).
And now, for some reason, I've revealed how deeply weird I am to a load of strangers on the internet (Enneagram type 4 xP).
It's all good! Let it out! It feels good to put it down into words.
I'm the same. Don't worry.
My guess would be 4w5
@@shreyanshsingh1337 Yes I am! It explains a lot about me haha.
4 w 5 here. It was interesting tsking the big 5 post enneagram. I like to think of thr big 5 as your portions of basic ingredients and stuff like enneagram or Myers brig s as different recipes made with said ingredients.
I wouldn’t miss a single class if this was my Proffessor he’s the professor everyone needs
As a statistics undergraduate, this lecture is particularly interesting. I've learned technicalities of doing statistics correctly. Yet to find interresting problems to apply my skills to is not straightforward. This lecture is showing me the use in psychology. Thank you!
I'm pretty quiet, spend a lot of time alone, and everyone (including myself) would 100% say I am an introvert, but social interactions really do energize me and put me in a great mood.
Truly, all of them good, bad etc?
Pretty similar. But then it depends on whose company.
Saaame!!
This could be down to different aspects, because personality is complicated. For example if you're high I'm openness you might feel energised by conversations around ideas or creativity, and that might overrule your introversion in that situation. I have a friend who's quite introverted, but because she's high in openness she presents as if she were extroverted when we interact because I'm also high in openness. There's many different ways the different traits can interact with each other that produce different results.
I’ve got a strange personality. I love being alone, love making people laugh, hate THE IDEA of going to big parties, BUT once I’m there I can be the life of the party and love interacting with people. I also work in sales, and love telling people ideas I have lolol
You are me
Lol I thought I was unique but clearly there's more people like me than I thought
@@Petra999 ha you aren’t alone. I think JP did say to be careful with how introverted you are though. I try to practice being more extroverted so I don’t fall into more of an introverted lifestyle and block people out. Just something to be mindful of as it may help keep your relationships strong.
You could be an ambivert, i.e. in the middle of the curve. I'm the same way. Do you like to entertain a crowd, for example tell a story to a group of about 6 people, and keep going strong even if there's a side conversation going on in the group? I'm not a pro psychologist, but would guess only a true extrovert can pull off a stunt like that. Are you a heavy alcohol user? Alcohol use is to my knowledge strongly correlated with extroversion. Other recreational drugs too
edit. I'm sorry, just realized you could be commenting here under your real full name. If that is the case you might not be inclined to share details about your alcohol and drug use with the whole internet 🤣
I love that I came into my B.S. in Psych in 2018 hearing Dr. Peterson. He was an inspiration of mine to become something more. I've recently graduated with my B.S. in Psych and now working in the mental healthcare system. I understand so much more, which is expected, and coming back to this lecture was a great decision. Thank you to everyone who allowed his lectures to air.
It's crazy to think that I could spend all day listening to lectures. It really goes to show what an actual "teacher" can do.
This is my first time sitting in on a JBP lecture. I feel so richly rewarded. It was jam packed with meaning and valuable life lessons. Super grateful for the recording.
I don't get what people find special about these lectures. I've watched them carefully and I don't see why this is any better then just getting an average book on differential psychology. You'll find there the same information and with way more caveats than Peterson presents here. I really miss all the exceptions and caveats you need to make since scientific knowledge is by far not as settled as Peterson presents it. Yes, the big 5 traits are useful, robust and so on. Everything correct, but there is still a huge scientific discussion going on one shouldn't ignore at a serious university level… At least in Germany, our average psychology students have a more complex view on the psychology of personality after their second or third semester than what is presented here in the lecture…
There are alot of us that have never gone to a higher level of education, and therefore never heard someone give a lecture. For that reason, for myself, these videos are worth their weight in gold!
@@hkl103 you mean to say that the good Doctor should have crammed and communicated 2 to 3 years of your university experience into one 50 minute lecture? Well, mister insightful genius post your video showing how you do it.
Are you saying that Peterson doesn't explore or reveal the caveats after 59 minutes? Well he has made many more lectures available where he does that. Again, make the video and post it.
The only reason to suffer all the expenditure of time money and other resources is to make contacts and friends, you may even marry one of them, or because you need the credentials. So people are thankful to the accessible, freely available digestible resources Dr Peterson presents, with love and compassion.
Some have even majored in such subjects and Doctors gift for teaching along with their changed situations in life maybe conducive to realigning their thoughts to see in new patterns or realities.
If this is so beneath you, cast your dirt elsewhere. I see no takers here. Fo watch what blesses you. Sing it's praise with delight. Go on now. Yes off you go.
A dating app based on these principals might be highly successful and a way to test different personality compatibilities. Like everyone who uses it takes a very detailed survey, then are told who they are matched with and why. Then the app could offer couples games that spur conversation while letting the app collect data on how well things are going.
What is happening to this magnificent teacher’s is almost unbelievable. He is a hero to me. Welcome to the resistance. Students take note of a real teacher.
The man makes so much sense even to a layman
ReadyMealReview that’s what baffles me about him. Men that are masters of their academic field, that spend their life unpacking every known thing about a topic, often cannot explain it in simple terms. They lose the gift of speaking without jargon. However Jordan Peterson articulates himself in a way that (almost) everyone could understand
ReadyMealReview a real genius can explain things as complex as rocket science to a 5 year old
@@Jacky-Boy Indeed. If you think clearly and logically, and can also think abstractly and in metaphor, you can understand Peterson. He doesn't spit jargon; he speaks clarity (after decades of thought of course!). You need not be a psychologist. Love his mind and mission.
36:22 yeaa
I love how expressive and animated this man is with his lectures.
I know someone who is very extrovert, has high consciousness , low in neuroticism , has the right amount of openness , very agreeable but also disagreeable in the right moments .
I truly believe he has the greatest personality .
🔥🔥🔥
Sounds like you either should marry them or be very good friends with them.
The best personality is probably someone who is closer to like 75th percentile on each of the Big 5 (positively scored) but has the ability to express different levels when the situation demands it.
I think for basically all the traits it becomes detrimental to be more than 80-90th percentile or so or less than 20-10th. A 95th percentile extravert is reliant on other people and addicted to social interaction whereas a 5th percentile becomes agoraphobic and unable to interact with people to meet basic needs.. A 95th person in openness can’t focus on routine/mundane things, always has to be creating, and is hard to employ whereas a 5th can’t think for themselves or contribute ideas, a 95th percentile agreeable person is a doormat who gets exploited by other people and can’t fight for themselves, also shelters their children whereas a 5th percentile agreeable person is antisocial and potentially violent and psychopathic, using others, and so on.
*conscientiousness
Sounds like the opposite of the fellow in my mirror.
It's fascinating to see how some students had this man in front and were just paying attention to their computer screens 😅
It really bugs me, I would climb up a mountain to sit in one of these chairs.
I wouldn't blink or look away for a second.
Most of those entitled students are gifted scholarships through donations. They should be banned imo.
27:04 I was recently told that it's common for professors to take their students' original findings as their own. And to see Mr. Peterson give this lecture and reference his graduate student was a joy to see.
Thank you, Jordan, for allowing us to peek inside your classroom. Never thought I'd be listening to _psychology_ lectures, till I realized my characters were shallow and not carrying my story like they should, and you are one of the few (getting fewer) brave enough to talk abt the differences between men and women, which I really wanted in order to write male characters in particular better. You've helped me so much with my writing, you don't even know. I found you because of the left trying to pick on you with red skull, and I figured, if you made the left mad you must be doing something right. I've loved you ever since ☺️
Thank you Jordan Peterson, may god bless you and your family for being generous in educating the rest of the world.
I'm a typical introvert and I like one-on-one interaction (preferably meaningful:-) and I avoid group interactions precisely because they drain me and I don't enjoy them. I always though that something is wrong with me in that regard (social anxiety, etc) UNTIL I heard this lecture. Thank you Dr Peterson.
I am gaining so much understanding from these videos....God Bless you, Dr Peterson. Thank you.
JP is a fountain of information. In this video , as always, he is flowing. Brilliant man. Thank you for sharing JP.
I WISH TO HEAD THE DIGITAL DOMINANCE HIERARCHY
Good luck!
The Modern Hermeticist .....Can I be the janitor? LOL
You've got lots of good stuff! It's happening...
Good luck, bucko.
Lonely are the brave.
His embattled clinical licensure attack was not warranted. Bless you for your work and legacy.
I've listened to Jordan Peterson's interviews but watching his dynamic and the ways in which he engages his students by looking directly at them throughout the course of the lecture is something else. Mind-blowing ability to verbally articulate himself and exceptional use of body language and eye-contact to engage students and drive his points home.
I became a patreon with 20$ a month. This knowledge and its excellent presentation should reach more people for free
I so appreciate Jordan Peterson and his analogy of these various traits! Jordan is the very best there is!!!
Well.., I started over afresh at 63 and get respected for doing so, Don't be so ageist! Sometimes folk like to talk to someone as if they are a sage who knows his onions!! Dr Peterson!
Thank you for releasing these videos, I've always enjoyed accumulating knowledge and you are an amazing source. I've only ever had one teacher take his job as seriously as you do and it shows.
33:43
that guy REALLY agrees with Dr Peterson
So many comments about "Harris vs Peterson"... Their dialogue is wasted on these people. All they see is a game of "my guy is smarter than your guy!"
Both Peterson and Harris are on fairly amicable terms and are having a conversation in relatively good faith. If only these ideologically driven and stunted viewers could stop seeing it as a dogfight, they might find themselves capable of engaging in more honest conversation.
I never understood the negative responses to the podcast. Both speakers were very polite and calm and got to the point.
Samdroid belongs in a lab, not in the philosophical arena with the roughly speaking might of Lord Jord and his metaphysical Darwinism.
It happens all over the place with different speakers on RUclips, it's the equivalent of 'my dad could beat up your dad' on the playground.
Actually, I would LOVE that and I love them both.
I want people to discuss/debate who I think will produce interesting dialogue.
Tony Perri You would love what, exactly?
Thank YOU, Jordan B. Peterson! For dedicating your time life and wonderfully beautiful mind towards the betterment of humanity. It won't be in vain!
The human has interested me for years , who would have ever thought I would get to attend a Dr Peterson lecture . Thank You , Dr Peterson and Thank You , You Tube .
When people talk about Peterson vs Harris I don't think that they realize that Peterson is not only a professor but also a clinician. Peterson has more experience in helping people to have better lives. Harris is only an author and doesn't have the practical knowledge and experience that Peterson has.
I think that this is true and explains Harris' mechanistic approach to what he considers truth. Being a clinician gives a person the opportunity to observe in detail the complexities of the human experience (if one is an effective clinician). There are layers of truth and where and when they are brought into knowing is no simple process. That is true also for science, aside from the individual-emotive realm.
seandavidr I agree, Harris is very limited in his lack of practical experience.
If you had listened to the podcast you'd know that their disagreement was purely philosophical - life experience had nothing to do with it.
Should not philosophy be a tool for negotiating life? Or is it too a truth outside of humanity?
Very naive to think peoples life experiences aren´t relevant and it´s purely philosophical.
I see a difference between introvert/extrovert and outgoing/shy. I'm an outgoing introvert; I mostly want to be alone to work on my hobbies, but when I do get into a social situation I really like meeting new people and talking to people I don't know, and I don't get shy about speaking in front of a large group or even singing/performing on a stage. Yet I really crave my alone time and start to go crazy if I don't get it.
that sounds like me lol
You are the best teacher in the world. You are an incredible speaker, with knowledge of the world that saves lives. If people just payed attention and listened to you, we would all be better off. My prayers to you and your family. God Bless.
Thank you for posting these for the world to learn from and enjoy, Mr. Peterson!
48:22 - I could not but applaude, just as I was alone, listening to his lecture!
Very interesting. I believe we have the power to be strong in all traits. Know yourself and learn to embrace and enhance your weaknesses. Dont worry to much, enjoy the learning process, as we have many life times to continue to upgrade ourselves. Wholeness ❤
Thank you Jordan B Peterson for illuminating me, educating me and making me realize some scary facets about myself. 1 or 5 need immediate attention. Top notch!
Wow, the advice at the end is exactly how my dad steered my life!.. I'm glad he gave it, .. and glad I listened to him.. that time.
Woah! Jordan just ended this lecture on the most profound thing I've heard him talk about. He needs to speak about modern music proliferation seriously I bet his insight is so profound
天照 This to his interview with Samuel Andreyev.
dude that 31:47 is having a jordangasm
Keep it decent for Dr. Peterson sake.
Mary De Voe Lol shut up
Wouldn't it be Petergasm?
lol
more like ,paranoid schizophrenia . the dudes on the edge or coke
For all my artistic and creative friends.....The last minute of this lecture in particular is the most important thing you can hear from this man. If creative people are not being creative they may as well wither and die. Not exactly his words but you get it.
I have written a message on the first video of this course what the point that I'd like to give is that before I've seen some classes of this magnific professor I no just improved my knowledge about human beings and society's structures but also I at begin didn't grasp exactly what was he talking about, as I'm not a native English speaker, and then nowadays I'm proud of say that I'm truly understanding the class. I know, it was a so long sentence. My congratulations since the interest I had to this knowledge did me approach to a correct english listening and pronunciation, and all this skills are very very useful. Professor, thanks because you did me smarter and more competent.
All these skills*
So grateful I live at a time when I can watch these lectures
Such good advice for creative people in the end. I've been blessed to enjoy software development and that's a great way to achieve it if you have such inclination. Easy to find a good day job, and the same skills can be applied to work on your own pet projects at home. The best approach for me was to work a few years, save up money, and fund myself sabbatical years from time to time. Working on creative projects at home in the evenings of week ends can be toxic for your family life, I tried it briefly and stopped the first I got annoyed when my toddler broke my focus by bringing me her drawings, that's not something you want to inflict on your spouse or children.
i keep coming back to Professors' lectures. Truly wish i was a student in his class. There's so much to learn.
This is the most useful and most important RUclips video there ever has been or ever will be.
33:44 the guy nodding is me every time I listen to JP lecture
thanks for clarifying thought you were stroking ha
10:58 for those interested in the statistical method behind The Big 5. Found other material on explaining factor analysis quite difficult (also the definition of co-variance). Dr. Peterson's explanation was quite good.
How lucky I am to watch this. So insightful for myself and my career. It's like a force of nature
Boy am I glad to be able to stand on the shoulders of this giant.
He is for me what nietzche is to him :)
Being able to teach concepts like that easily to the broader population like he can shows how good he is. Love it.
Hi Jordan, I have only just found you! I'm studying Psychology here in Australia at ANU...I wish you were my lecturer. thankyou.
Would be great if Peterson created an app to match people based on Big 5. Many hearts would be saved from crushing
Margarita Vid why wait for him to do it?... Take that idea and run with it! That's a great idea!
Goose Gaming why not? Thanks for inspirarion
Lol no thanks needed!
I think I can help you with that...
And if you’re an awesome person, you’re high in openness and high in consciousness
As tremendously grateful as I am for the Doctor's presence on the broader political and social stage, and I do mourn for the students that lost the chance to learn directly from him.
Either way, I'm glad that someone like him came along at this point in history.
How fortunate are his students to have this information with 20 years old !!! I have to wait till the 50 !!
I don't get what people find special about these lectures. I've watched them carefully and I don't see why this is any better then just getting an average book on differential psychology. You'll find there the same information and with way more caveats than Peterson presents here. I really miss all the exceptions and caveats you need to make since scientific knowledge is by far not as settled as Peterson presents it. Yes, the big 5 traits are useful, robust and so on. Everything correct, but there is still a huge scientific discussion going on one shouldn't ignore at a serious university level… At least in Germany, our average psychology students have a more complex view on the psychology of personality after their second or third semester than what is presented here in the lecture…
Omg, more psychometrics!! More lectures!!! Ahhhh obsessed
Hello. I am really grateful for your videos. It has transformed the way I think and really gave me self trust and confidence to take stand of the things I believe, things I decided I will believe after wrestling with it on a philosophical and more fundamental level.
I am a petroleum engineering graduate but I have been reading philosophy and psychology since I was high school. I am really fascinated by the human capacity to think and feel. I really wanted to pursue it as career back then but I was young, stupid, and naive to make any informed decision by myself so I listen to the counsel of my parents. any game is better than no game. I am really thankful that your work has given me the platform to nurture myself in an intellectual and personal way. I pray for all the blessings that you need and all the best. Your work is creating multitudes, and it is generational. The way I interact with the people around me has been greatly affected. Thank you again. You will always be one of the greatest people I will remember.
Brilliant Jordan. Very good introduction to the Big 5, IQ and the linguistic hypothesis. So easy to understand!
In communicating with dolphins we should envision a mythology based on their perceptions.
..and quickly before they leave with the fish!
Craig Hinrichs "In the beginning was The Song, and The Song was with God, and The Song was God."
Craig H Why would one engage in this pursuit? Don't get me wrong it sounds intriguing possibly very rewarding but Why? Also what led you to post this interesting notion in this comment section? Thanks
R.J. Mx why would someone wish to create a believable new age god based on fascinating inteligent marine mammals..?
*shruggs shoulders* 🙉
Sam Lee it sounds fun and/or funny I was just wondering where the inspiration for the idea came from.
I'd love to see Elon Musk's Big 5 scores
I'd guess he's:
low in extraversion (watch his interviews)
high in conscientiousness (dude works 18hrs a day)
high in openness (self-evident)
not sure about neuroticism and agreeableness (maybe average)
@@doisaycom Probably fairly low in agreeableness and neuroticism, he seems very optimistic most of the time, which would be an indicator of low sensitivity to negative emotion, and he's had several marriages that didn't work out/he also runs his businesses extremely aggressively, meaning that, a large amount of the time, it's his way or the highway.
Daniel Ruatta well those who worry about the future a lot are usually higher in neuroticism. Also he is hurt by those who don’t believe in him. But it helps him be more careful about the future of his companies and humanity. He wants to be optimistic but he constantly thinks about all the negative things in the world.
@@doisaycom Id say low agreeableness cuz, you know, in his position he must be atleast partially and ashole-Fucking Elon Musk, and high in neuroticism-just a vibe i get... He might be also a psichopath, idk xD
Some experts have likely analyzed him along similar lines at some point, no?
Wow impressive...I’m an extrovert/creative person and his statement about the balance of it in entities or graduation courses came as a wake up call to me. I really liked his example about musicians etc. Thanks Professor Peterson.
This is new to me. This is an awesome addition to my education in psychology and sociology.
Those kids in your class don't appreciate you as much as your internet audience. They're there because they need the credit. We're here, watching your lectures while we braise steak, because we *want to be.*
What a thought
How do you know?
Jordan Peterson thank you for your insights, I am in awe.
CITIZEN PETERSON: Thanks for these lectures, I discovered your channel just a few months ago and it has completely changed the way I look at the world. I just bought your latest book on a whim, I am very interested in what you have to say. You're doing the world a great service, sir.
Amazing. Truly helpful. Just finished "understand myself test". This is of great help.
Dr. P I have heard many of your lectures and have subscribed to your channel. You have a brilliant mind that I believe truly understands the human heart and its nature as a whole due to all of the great readings you have done from all of the great past philosophers & religious backgrounds. One question.. I chose to raise my children & be a loving active mother with my children as they where growing up. Now that they have grown & doing very well might I add. I believe that me as a mother being at home especially through those adolescent year's was important. I have many examples & experiences that made me see that I made the right decision. Getting to the question, so you are basically saying that now I'm in my 40's that basically I'm doomed because I am too old now to find a suitable career for myself. Is that what you mean? I believe that's we are always trying to grow & become good people no matter our age. We are always learning & starting new adventures. Some decide to put their careers before starting a family so are they to old now? Maybe if you can clarify this for me because as of now it's as if you are saying individuals such as myself have no future in obtaining a job, a career ect. Thank you! Still like all of your content though.
You have had twenty or so years of experience as a raiser of people; but you didn't receive a certificate/degree. You are highly qualified to enter the field of education. Persuade someone to let you have a chance!
I recently did big five test and then results turned out predictable but also surprising regarding the quantities. I'm ridiculously high in openness, like it is hard to score more (in the top 5% or more) and very low on consciousness, which causes of course causes trouble in my life and probably judged the most harsh by people around me.
I'm also doomed like Dr. Peterson described, like a 9 to 5 job in an office will in the long run literally kill me. And with literally I mean literally. I know people in my (professional) life who are happy doing their work in a company, 60+ hours a week, and I just can't do it.
I use the strategy he also described with some stable income and my own projects besides that, but that also raises the question by people of "Why don't you just totally throw yourself into your work and make a lot of money?". Tough I feel I need to be more risk taking and going after my passions more.
Thank you for that insightful and interesting lecture!
The construct is conscientiousness - not consciousness. Maybe something like learning a musical instrument would be good for you. If you have something which demands conscientiousness and also provides for creativity, you would be challenging yourself to be something you are not, and at the same time satisfying something that you are.
who gives a fuck about you anyway? work is work, stfu and grow some balls my advice
Did you even got what i meant to say by "work is work"? How can you compare it to "job also a job" or "paycheck a paycheck"? You have an eye as an profile picture, so pay attention! Don't be willfully blind, because you act like it ( i advice you tomake your profil picture black ). Sort yourself out, bucko!.
"don't imagine anyone will see this, but all are welcome here anyway. if you think we might share some of the same interests, feel free to message me and spark a discussion or debate." you are a joke get some friends
I'm also very high in openness, but also in industriousness. I have an undergrad of 3.7, a MS and an MFA and I'm two years into a PhD in the arts. I don't do well in the 9 to 5 world. I'm too creative and I feel like I only want to do what interests me not what needs to be done according to my boss.
I can listen to Professor Peterson all day.
Wow, I watched all of 2017 maps of meaning playlist and now up to episode 14 of this one and this is like the first lecture I've seen in which he wears a suit and tie. Interesting.
watching for the 5 time and still learning 🤓
14:35 a man on the right just LICKED his phone!
lmao
sorry,,,i don't have a phone...I'll lick my book instead...K?
The composer Charles Ives had a degree in composition from Harvard. He sold insurance and composed evenings and weekends. Because many of his works were not publicly known or played some think he lied about when they were composed so he could appear to have been cutting edge in music when it was others like Stravinsky. Still, I've is an example of exactly what Peterson referred to: A creative person who found something stable and was creative on the side.
T.S Eliot would be another example. He worked at the Bank of England (I think) in the department for foreign investments, then later in life worked as an editor for the publishing firm Faber and Faber.
Dude ... That's pure wisdom and a whole lot of success strategies packed in 40 minutes... He doesn't waste a single phoneme...
Just had to write this down before I forgot, I recently watched a sci-show episode where they talked about why plants are green and how it relates to balancing the total amount of radiation from the sun that they absorb, prevent a too high of spikes and too low of troughs. This was confirmed by some simulations done by some researchers and they found that the wavelengths selected for needed to be not too far apart, but also not too close. I wonder if this work could be used in some way to validate what JBP is talking about when he talks about partners and how optimally their big 5 traits should fit together
5 types of personalities: drinking really sugary iced coffee, not getting enough sleep, astrology signs, not trying, quirky
What a seriously amazing time to be alive... we don’t even have to leave our homes to be dowsed in this quality knowelege
Or just read a serious book (really doesn't need to be one written by Peterson)… I don't get what people find special about these lectures. I've watched them carefully and I don't see why this is any better then just getting an average book on differential psychology. You'll find there the same information and with way more caveats than Peterson presents here. I really miss all the exceptions and caveats you need to make since scientific knowledge is by far not as settled as Peterson presents it. Yes, the big 5 traits are useful, robust and so on. Everything correct, but there is still a huge scientific discussion going on one shouldn't ignore at a serious university level… At least in Germany, our average psychology students have a more complex view on the psychology of personality after their second or third semester than what is presented here in the lecture…
What an amazing human this is. I just love this guy ❤