Jordan Peterson: Life, Death, Power, Fame, and Meaning | Lex Fridman Podcast
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0:00 - Introduction
0:47 - Dostoevsky
11:48 - God
19:58 - Science
32:21 - Death
35:15 - Elon Musk
39:13 - Global Crisis
51:26 - Dangerous ideologies
1:02:40 - Justin Trudeau
1:16:46 - War in Ukraine
1:34:14 - Day in the life
2:10:18 - How to think
2:25:26 - Depression
2:33:33 - Advice for young people
2:47:22 - Russian literature
2:59:10 - Meaning of life
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0:47 - Dostoevsky
11:48 - God
19:58 - Science
32:21 - Death
35:15 - Elon Musk
39:13 - Global Crisis
51:26 - Dangerous ideologies
1:02:40 - Justin Trudeau
1:16:46 - War in Ukraine
1:34:14 - Day in the life
2:10:18 - How to think
2:25:26 - Depression
2:33:33 - Advice for young people
2:47:22 - Russian literature
2:59:10 - Meaning of life
amazing Lex. As always.🤙
Thank you, Lex...You're killing it.
JBP is the man
You’re brilliant man.
“Clean your bloody lobster, Bucko… Roughly speaking.” 🦞
Thank you once again Lex! You’re on a roll of having some of my favorite humans on that I’ve never met. 🙏🏽
Worlds collide… this is what the internet was made for. Engaging, complex, long form conversations that help us understand the world and ourselves better.
Exactly :D, i am rushing to finish my work so that i can watch this :D
well said
Exactly, less videos of kids drinking bleach, or fighting over nonsense, and more videos of marching humanity forward towards a common goal. Until people realize we're all humans and to accept others differences, we're doomed. :\
He preaches open mindedness and enlightenment but he himself isn’t. To me that makes him an extreme hypocrite. Him being so well spoken & learned shows this.
@@LudiCrust. critical thinking with an open mind is an amazing way to go about your life.
Lex, your curious spirit is a gift to humanity. Thank you for demonstrating the courage to be yourself. You've got a lot of people rooting for you!
Thank you for the great video Lex, can't explain it but this quote kept appearing in mind throughout the conversation. " The strongest intellectual. foundation is built upon science, math, and philosophy as they are the search for universal truths." Naval Ravikant. Imagine what a world we could build if the world leaders could sit and have this type of intellectual dignified conversations?
Yet he can't give your comment and donation some love
@@youlittlerocket lex is too sensitive to read comments. He isn't even aware that they are all positive
@@TAOSHU369 it’s so true - i have never seen a negative comment on all of his videos (and I’ve seen a lot lol)
the way this video helped me .. "you create the world by the way you live it" - Lex
for free... for anyone to be blessed by the knowledge acquired and translated into a 3 hour conversation by these two MEN.
thank you to both Lex and Jordan
the depression part is an eye opener and coming from a depressed last 2 years was a much needed truth.
I just recently found Lex on you-tube. I really enjoyed this uplifting discussion. Toward the end J.P. mentioned about cleaning out the sock drawer. I was so motivated, did 2 drawers in my closet. Took just that for this 84 year old lady. 😅
Good for you, Gigi !
My friend has been telling us about you, so glad I listened to you and Jordan ☺️ Thank you @lexfridman keep up the good work 💞
😂😂😂aww ❤❤
What a glorious breath of fresh air. Truth, nothing held back. Straight from the heart. Glorious. When you have nothing to hide, when you fully engage and when you refuse to lie, that is beautiful. Thank you both.
The long form Podcast is a breath of fresh air, just stripped back content with no music or filler, so simple but incredibly engaging
Plenty of time for Jordan to say word salad conservative bs
The old format of edited interviews is dying in favor or this new format, a format that respects the intellect and freedom of thought of the viewer
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 it honestly sucks that you can't see past your downloaded bias, cause there's a lot to learn from this guy
Totally agree. I currently do long haul for a living and these podcasts really help to enjoy my time.
@@Enlightendfire
Some don’t want to learn. I think they come with their minds made up as to how they perceive the discussion will go.
It’s insane to me how rare these calm intellectual conversations are
didn’t mean to start a war in the replies 😭
because Lex is trying to get money out of Peterson's incel viewership. That's why he lets that neonazi swing his broken mindfarts around and doesn't push back. Lex has no conscience.
j peterson Nazi orbanuskisser:
"my message to Hungarians:
what your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of Hungarian culture".
Intellectual lol.
That's bcuz lies and indoctrination have a deadly paste 🤷🏻♂️
*This is actually indeed the opposite* ✌
@@COMMON-SENSE501 the entire system is already indoctrinating kids into the far right what are you on about 🤣
Thank you Peterson, I was a nobody 8 years ago when I stumbled upon your lectures at a low point in my life. Now I've started two companies both with successful exits. Telling the truth, adopting responsibility, and aiming upward toward the highest good. It just works.
What are your companies?
@@stevewaldron8857I’d also like to know, For the one brave enough to respond
Yes, what are your companies we’d like to know because that’s pretty remarkable
@@charliechan578 a commercial cleaning/janitorial company and then a business consulting firm.
We won’t get a response because the comment wasn’t true 😢
As the eldest boy in the family, unknowingly, my mother and the church groomed me to be a priest. As an older adult I reflect on your words and feel blessed by mother’s faith. Thank you for awakening my faith.
So what you’re saying is you’re gay?
The fact that a 3:00:00 long interview gathers close to 10M views rebuilds hope in humanity.
People hunger soo much for indepth views not knowing where to where to find it admist the billion distractions
Well put, Laura!
I'm sorry, Lucy!
How many of those are views from me having this play after I fell asleep listening to a War Mode podcast.
you can't imagine how much I suffer in todays world bs, I have to read/ hear/ do intelectual things to survive
@@9ubagurbi6 I'm sorry to hear that and I wish you good health and happiness.
Lex really brought out the best in Jordan, it felt like the classic JP who is all about truth and humanity and not so much about politics. Two great minds that complement and encourage each other to explore the depths of humanity, awesome work.
Jordan was pretty bad here, lacking self-control, constantly interrupting. He is full of BS anyway.
But we need him there so bad
@@alexoolau Sure Jordan interrupts and does so regularly regardless of the show, but for me that is a small price to pay to hear his perspective. I have lots of faults. Maybe that's just his.
@@alexoolau Jordan is an excellent role model, teacher, therapist; he is what every man should aspire to be. He had the presence of mind to recognize that his addiction to benzodiazepines had gone too far; he then took steps to beat the monstrous problem of benzo addiction, a herculean show of strength by any standard.
@@alexoolau JP is full of BS? OK, but I'd like to hear why you think so, as well as your expertise or background. JP has spent his entire adult life studying these subject matters critically. And yes, JP did interrupt Lex periodically...it's out of character for sure. Its not hard to conclude that, because all one needs to do is go and watch his various debates and or interviews to see that it's extremely rare that JP interrupts anyone...it's quite the contrary, and it is JP who regularly gets interrupted, all the while JP simply stops speaking allowing the rude interruption to finish while remaining calm and composed.
We *NEED* Jordan today more than ever, he was given to us at just the right time as a teacher. Thank you Mr Peterson
Come on
@@northwestcoastcome on what???
It’s true!!
Sadly you don’t get that.
I appreciate the value he's brought to many young men around the world, but to suggest you can't appreciate art and be secular is absolutely ridiculous lol. I am an artist and have been secular my entire life.
Lex, you have such a soothing voice. Your podcast brings a sense of calm as well as eloquent and intellectual conversation.
There’s something about the way that he says the word “love” that makes you feel it.
I recently underwent the tribulations of obtaining my CDL. Six months of learning, driving, shitty motels, and here I am SOLO; navigating and exploring the United States listening to hours and hours of Jordan Peterson. “Meaning of life - Adventure, love, and truth.” Thank you Lex and Jordan for keeping me company ❤
Congrats bro
I too am a truck driver, I started when I was 23 and I'm 31 now. Towards my 2nd year Mr Petersons notoriety was starting to take off. I love jordan, he wants to help the men in my generation and he's helped me to relax and not be so hard on myself. Be safe out there driver 🚛 💰💪
Holy moly, sorry trying to be polite, but you guys have some learning! JP being an imposter for the deep state, where is this dialogue leading ❤
Same here brother!
nice
Lex’s patience and genuine curiosity is exactly what Jordan needed after years of verbal abuse. I certainly noticed JP was more at ease and his thoughts more fluid.
TIL getting Jordan Peterson to actually take a stance on something instead of meaningless open ended word salad musings taking down collectivism is considered verbal abuse. God forbid you hold him to his ever changing ideology and half baked understanding of complex concepts he uses to fuel his flimsy endorsement of capitalism and Christian conservatism.
@@aphotosyntheticworld so much hate, try love.
@@aphotosyntheticworld yup. great podcast nonetheless
@@budoshi1981 when that can be hate it also can be love. Words never had ultimate meanings.
@@aphotosyntheticworld collectivism? I've never heard him speak in such a tone. Discrediting a toxic ideology in society does not equate to be collectivist simply because most people who watch him also dislike that toxic ideology.
Lex, tonight is, I think, what’s got to be my fifth or sixth time watching this specific episode. It’s a Saturday night, in my apartment alone, coffee in hand, and I just want to say thank you for ever venturing into the podcast world. Wonderful conversations ❤️
Jordan Peterson.
A rollercoaster of alienation and encouragement.
I need an antacid, but "We got this."
Lex: Well, let me ask you a difficult question
JP: As opposed to the easy ones that you've been asking so far
Lex: Well, uh, Dostoevsky is always just a warm-up
Loved that part
🔥
😊
i loved it! does anyone have the timestamp?
@@serhei9825 It's pretty early on in the video.
Lex, I've noticed that your interviewing style brings out what the guest has been wanting to say, but has lacked the access to express in a relaxed form, you drill down to get the answers to questions we wanted to be asked, but didn't know until you asked them. Thank You the audience
Jorbanus Peterson:
"my message to Hungarians:
what your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the pure white Hungarian race"
That's true.
He's informed enough on his guests to allow a deeper dive into some topics that conventional media won't allow to be aired often due to constraints of the format:
Television and radio are notorious for their ad breaks and you can't flow when you're constantly interrupted by contractual obligations. These podcasts are ideal.
It's the perfect format to allow free-flow conversations and it allows the people to express their ideas in a more complete form.
Lex Frigidaire is a sellout who has made a living out of being a parasite on progress with his divisive devils advocate stance, and his lack of a spine behind anything. He’s like if joe Rogan wore a button up, and never strayed from the script, lex refrigerator, has found the fine line between pointless work, very little effort, and high consumption…
If it wasnt this beta male it would be any of the other digestible soft spoken interviewers, slowly dwindling into the background until another celebrity makes your shitty opportunistically derived product valuable again…
Ive done my research, even though its as clear as day… should change your name to Paul Jakeman, you’d get 5 million more subscribers who confuse you with jake Paul and Paul jake.
@@Starkillr1 Jordan Jesus Christ Peterson:
"my message to Hungarians:
what your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of Hungarian culture".
I think it's nice of Lex Fridman to platform a profound neonazi like Jordan Peterson. It really shows how important it is to let cult leaders for fascism speak their mind without opposing them. Surely no harm can come of that. And Lex gets some clicks and youtube money so everybody wins? What is the price for Lex's conscience again?
“voluntary exposure to that which terrifies you in small portions is curative.” Thanks Jordan for such encouragement.
I get the feeling that these two enjoyed the joust. The exchange. The art of conversation. beautiful
Lex is hands down the best interviewer I've ever watched. He understands the conversation and the meta-conversation in a way that allows him to ask the questions that reveal his guest.
Amen.
wow that comment was quite well done too !
Lex ask and have these interviews because he does wish to pursue wisdom and knowledge on the subject his guests are speaking about
Absolutely
Lex, like many of us, sees the fear that drives Peterson who, for example, while a professional, freely describes other professionals in public with phrases like "utterly delusional", and Lex has the skill to effectively ask Peterson, sensitively, and without volleying the emotions, whether that's problematic.
"Some of my best friends dont know I exist. And a lot of my best friends are dead." Lex
I love you lex. Not in a creepy way, but in the way that you give me such hope. I relate to you so very much. Thank you for all you do.
What timeframe he said that again?
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yup - great quote..
I overstand you my friend , keep your head up and be strong .
Thats will hunting
Every time I think I've heard the best from Jordan Peterson he gets even better.
Damn he is a real human who wears his heart on his sleeve. Confident and humble. A beautiful human.
This is coming from a 46 year old real born female, in Wisconsin who never had a positive male role model.
This guy is awsome
Yes! I didn't realize until I read your comment that that's exactly my story and how I feel! 33 year old woman, wife, mother. Never had a truly good, healthy male role model in my life. I think JP is that for me. And what a man to fill that role!
Lex is a national treasure or is becoming one in how he gets us to see the complexity of Jordan - who is a national treasure times 2.
One thing I really love about Lex is that he genuinely wants to listen to what the other person has to say rather than try find faults in their views and opinions. Really rooting for him.
jb peterson Nazi orbanuskisser:
"my message to Hungarians:
what your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of Hungarian culture".
for the most part. In kanye's interview he definitely did a bit of that (some of it perhaps being justified, but still)
@2:34 he hits it right on the head. I’m 22 and have a panic disorder. Since I took this job at Steak ‘n Shake a year ago and got sober I have truly learned to be a people person by just trying when it came to customer service. I have become our best customer service person we have and was even promoted to customer service trainer before management. Been here for over a year now. In the beginning I thought I was above it and wanted bigger and better but learned to associate myself with the people I worked with, with the customers and see we are all just human beings trying to make it in life in some way. It takes effort but I learned to be kind, patient, and hardworking through the many 50+ hour weeks of working here. Will forever be thankful. I’ve finally learned to be a responsible young man. Obviously with many outside factors such as almost 2 years of consistent therapy and feeding myself content from individuals like Jordan Who just understand the struggle and know the way out. Take heed to this podcast young lost kings. Find yourself, God bless
Outstanding job with not only thriving in a humbling industry but also making yourself a high-revenue asset among your peers!
I just turned 22 myself and from one lost soul to another congrats my bro, I envy you with your sobriety
I found your story to be profound. Bravo. ("The first shall be last & the last first")
You have discovered the secret to becoming a better human being, raising the vibration of the collective consciousness exponentially with kindness, humility and it's ripple effect and that is what contributes to evolution of your Soul. That is what this human experience is all about.
Welcome back to humanity and to your own self
I literally watch this episode every time I'm feeling overwhelmed by life, by my career (or whatever you call my attempt at building a business), by the heaviness of being such an overthinking person with many tragedies playing themselves out simultaneously... And somehow I've missed the bit about Stephen King until this evening! I have a small library in my room with a lot of philosophy, psychology, some mentally challenging literature (including Dr. Peterson), but the largest collection devoted to a single author in my collection is by FAR Stephen King. I am continuously finding new synchronicities that encourage my faith that I'm on a harmonious path with my purpose. Who knows if that'll turn out to be silly in the end. Kudos to you both for this high-level dialogue, and the mental synchronization. TEXAS PROUD :) Bless you both, man. Sincerely.
Yes, I'm definitely more interested in Stephen King now. I also missed this point first time. What a great endorsement for Stephen King. Wow. Especially considering all the great works that Jordan Peterson has read. Great stuff.
You may like Rick Warren "Purpose driven Life"
"Let me push back. ." Lex your calmness and tact in conversation to get a clearer picture is amazing. Most interviewers (whom I still enjoy) don't always push back and if they do to push back in such a respectful way with Mr. Peterson. But by pushing back, occasionally more than once, you put him in a nice place to further unpack. Which is nice coming from a less educated individual who doesn't fully comprehend what he means.
Fantastic content, I appreciate you both.
Whoa. Wow. Beautiful observation, beautifully expressed!
I am constantly amazed with Lex's ability to interview people from every corner of society with grace, respect and an indestructible non-judgmental approach. It's very clear to me that Lex has some distinct, well-grounded opinions of his own but somehow he is able to put those in the backseat and allow the guest to voice their own perceptions however misaligned those might be to what Lex believes. this is an exceptionally rare ability, and one I admire.
Lex is producing rich content for millennia to come.
Lex is not a very confrontational person as in he scores lower on disagreeableness.
Most advanced AI in existence.
@@brianmcleod5474 but Natural, not Artificial one :)
@@brianmcleod5474 Not out of the question, but I'll await credible proof B4 subscribing to that remote possibility.
Lex’s questions seem so relaxed and casual , but he’s skillfully opening up the hearts and the minds of his guests and the audience . Brilliant.
Pretty awesum!AGREED
Dude, Lex is the man! He's got this uncanny ability to make his guests feel super comfortable and at ease, which I think really opens them up to sharing their thoughts and ideas in a more authentic way. And at the same time, he's asking these deep, thought-provoking questions that really get to the heart of the matter. It's like he's a master at drawing out the insights and perspectives that we all need to hear. It's really quite brilliant. I think that's why his podcast has become so popular - he's able to engage both the guests and the audience in a way that feels natural and genuine. It's a real skill, man.
On the other side, this guest is like a spider and a snake, weaving long sentences, presenting close "options" to open questions, then explaining simply that all these options but the one he want to make a point are false and then trying to argue to me that this is what is my opinion should be... leaving raw open all the other open aspects of the problem. Giving an example... The painting have depth through our culture, not by themseves. Classic one more so as we have more thinking tikering these questions for centuries...
Great work by Lex to try to keep the guy back on this planet and not purely in his thoughts listening to himself.
@@alexdubois6585 that is an interesting take. It really is. ( I thought this was the Conti interview , this explains my edit) since this is Peterson , well , you’re spot on.
@@alexdubois6585 lets see, guest was asked a question and so guest answers with conviction what he thinks and explains how he got to those conclusions and you say that is the guest closing "options" to open questions? you sure you know how this thing works?
I love Dr Peterson. My brain had a work out and I learn every time I hear him. Lex I like your pod cast. Keep it up and you always reflect on things. God Bless you both. Great Job
Honestly, I just can't describe in words how much I love Jordan with all my heart. I wish I could hug this man one time in my life and it's a dream to be like him. ❤
I'm following Dr. Peterson for many years..
This conversation contained the most valuable contributions I ever heard him make! And I watched all his lectures.
Only Lex made this possible by the way he seeks to get to the bottom.
Much ❤to both of you and everyone reading this on their journey.
"Time's short, get at it!"
❤❤
BINGO BABY
I follow Jordan Peterson primarily, because I was his student in real life and have had several conversations with him years before he acquired his fame
In search of lost time? Hmmm. I have an album called in search of sunrise.
to: Fa Re: I agree completely. Lex is an excellent interviewer, very intelligent, extremely well-read, and most importantly, obviioiusly genuinely interested in what he can learn from Jordan. IMO that last point is why he is such a suburb host. Never gets in the way himself, always trying to draw out his guest. And to my untrained eye, he does all this while at the same time possibly wrestling with some inner demons of depression himself. And missing out a bit on le joie de vivre.
Lex interviews with no agenda except to learn. It is beautiful. Thank you for letting us sit in on this conversation between two intellectual equals.
Lex is far more open minded then Peterson. And that makes him superior in intelectual terms.
Lex has a much higher emotional IQ. I've never heard him say anything remotely hateful, unlike JP. Lex is a gentleman, and JP is an authoritarian, Christofascist bully.
"two intellectual equals"......uh.........wha??
Too bad he's learning from JBP
@@clorofilaazul "Open-minded" is not equal to intellectual superiority. No.
I love you Jacy ❤. Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing this very personal story with us! God bless you always 🙏
So deep and meaningful. I would have to listen to this a thousand times to unpack it all for myself.
DEEP and satisfying.
Great discussion.
THANKS 😊
I was almost crying going thru the comment.
I've lost faith in society since I became a father.
Lex, Dr. Petterson and every single person who commented something positive on this podcast, thank you. I feel like I'm carrying my family thru a social storm, surrounded by shark on boat that could sink at any moment. You guys bring me peace.
Eat farts
@@sn1000k damn, I'll give that, your forefront shine way more than your mind.
I think the entire human race is feeling that way these days. Hang in there.
@@donnadsh8479 I know I am
You got it bro 🙏🤘
Jordan Peterson is the only person that's ever been able to make me think it was possible for someone to psychologically heal you with words alone.
Deep comment and so very true. There are no coquenses. Words have power, use them wisely. It's being mindful, realizing the past is gone and tomorrow may not come. T in Tx
The 🖊️ pen is mightier than the 🗡️ sword.
Yeah, JP amazes me. Enjoy your drives , be safe, and take it easy out there.
Very clear to see Lex that you had an underlying agenda interviewing Jordan
Just a wonderful discussion to sit back and listen to. Two highly intelligent gentlemen sitting and talking about life. Such a treat. Thank you
I've NEVER watched a 3 hour podcast! This was more mesmerizing, engaging and thought provoking than any movie I've ever seen.
😊
He said “movie”
I've never felt more strongly that I should be wearing a tie while listening to an episode of a podcast.
😆
10/10
Ties are merely an efficient methodology to choke off bloodflow to the brain.
I turned into a lobster while listening to this. Even with my great big claws I still made my bed and cleaned my bloody room. It's like, what's your excuse, bud ?
OMG! You're not wearing a tie? I put mine on before hitting play.
This is my favorite interview. Well done, Gentlemen. There is so much insight here. Thank you and God bless
Powerful conversation. Brilliant insights. Thank you for doing what you do.
Near 2:30 mark this hit home. In 2017 I was bedridden with actual paralysis from my chest down trying to recover from having 13 vertebrae bolted together T4 to L2 with acute chronic pain along with 11 years r taking fentanyl and oxycodone. My first challenge was to just move my toes which took over a year to see results then it was practicing standing with a walker and another year of practicing. 1% improvement was my goal, roughly 1% per month with extreme efforts to see. Fast forward since then, I’m past 4 years of no fentanyl or any opiates,I now travel the western states with my dog Tigger in our bus motorhome. We walk everyday and our record is 3.5 miles in a day. The way out of depression, pain and hopelessness is consistently pursue 1% improvement and the feeling of reaching 2% is likely to be your favorite feeling of self respect and accomplishment 🙏♥️💪🐕🚌
jb peterson Nazi orbanuskisser:
"my message to Hungarians:
what your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of Hungarian culture".
Shut up nobody cares
That's awesome! Congrats on your success!
Keep up the good work. You are an inspiration.
Fantastic man!! That’s great. And animals are such a blessing to us all.
Lex, I see you as the most spiritually attuned and authentically inquisitive person to ever interview Dr. Peterson. You have really brought the best out of him in this conversation. This one is worth re-watching many times. Thank you, and I love you both.
Corey well said. He is a great interviewer. And challenged JP a few times.
Bruh he couldn't get Peterson to respond to any of his questions. The dude just kept on rambling
Agreed.
@@timburdsey with whom lol
@@mladizivko Sorry, I should have been more specific. With @Corey above.
I enjoy so much the conversational entente that is present when the two of you sit down together. Like in the use of refraining: the advocating devil, the donning of someone else's shoes, 3rd POV, etc.. to expand on the others point/s beyond the emotion that arises or even to indicate the lack of one. Thank you both indeed and with this the tipping of my hat salute you I do!
Probably my favorite interview I've seen yet. Thank you.
The tone in both of their voices is such a wonderful difference to the usual way of talking these days. They are soft, respectful, listen and talk carefully and attentively. People should speak like this with each other more often and realise the power of speech when it is used with care.
yes so true, people have adopted mannerisms used in social media of throwing darts at each other, as though discussing a topic is a battleground
Agreed! Although with one distinction, and this podcast reinforced this, It starts with the self. I've seen this sentiment of getting people to do better and make the world a better place but I think the answer is focusing on what us as individuals can improve on. Thought I'd just give my two sense. Cheers!
@@MrPwner3000 right, and it starts with making the bed and cleaning the room..... seems so simple/stupid/obvious but it's so symbolic and practical
Being a fly on the wall during these types of interactions is by far one of the best parts of the RUclips if not the entire web. Thanks to you both. Your cups overfloweth and I'm sopping it up with a biscuit.
Absolutely. ✊
Extremely grateful to have access to discussions like these man.
Words as a salve to soothe the irritation that is modern living. Going to bed less itchy, one conversation at a time.
Gentlemen, thank you.. ❤
Utterly engaging, so much so that 3 hours were almost not enough! Really great.
You guys make me want to be a better and smarter human. Thank you.
I’m nobody special here, but my advice is to read. Read the great works of humanity and read them with a critical and curious mind.
@@_GandalfTheGrey_ True. They even talked about 4 pieces of literature that are capable of opening minds! So that OP not have to search the video, here they are: "TheBrothers Karamazov" "Crime an Punishment" and "The Idiot" all three written by Dostoevsky. Plus "The Master And Margaritha" by Bulgakov.
@@_GandalfTheGrey_ There is such chance in this world to come across somebody with advice and I think despite all the junk on the internet there are something good to all this and this is probably the best learning tool any scholar could have ever hoped for. When you say "you are nobody special", you show clearly in a sense that you may very well be lol
@@shawnk7720 We are all trying to be better today than we were yesterday. I know not all people are, but I mean those of us who care about our own purpose and fulfilling it in an honest and altruistic manner.
@@_GandalfTheGrey_ i appreciate and admire people like you who try honestly to become better!
When its Friday night , the kids are in bed and I can relax and take in this wonderful podcast. Thank you!
based Lex Fridman enjoying mother.
"When"?
@@Jagar_Tharn It's a way of speaking on the internet, derived from a meme I think.
"Relax" and watch this podcast... Ha.
It's one Hell of a podcast!
Based mom
Amazing conversation. One of my favorites of Jordan, if not THE favorite.. and it's Lex's doing :)
Just watched 2nd time over, 6mths apart... not a single missable minute in 3hrs! Love to both these beautiful peeps.
This is one of the most beautiful conversations. Thank you for giving us opportunity to be part of it!
Eh peterson kind of lies with the truth. Yea a famine is coming but it has more to do with countries not selling these industrial soils with Africa, for example, expanding its agriculture by 5x so what happens when they don't have it? The countries that supply the most of these industrial soils are chna which stopped supplying it, the countries currently at war and the u.s.
@@erica.7231I believe he admits in another interview that there's poverty because we don't share our resources. But the problem lies with the fact that they're paying farmers to burn and destroy a third of their crops to create a famine.
jb peterson Nazi orbanuskisser:
"my message to Hungarians:
what your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of Hungarian culture".
I tell my grandson most mornings when he leaves the house for. College “make a difference, love you “ from UK
@@valeriecalder1273 b peterson Nazi orbanuskisser:
"my message to Hungarians:
what your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of Hungarian culture".
Lex if you read this. Please consider doing like six more of these with jp. Truly a pleasure and a privilege to listen to you two. Most people aren’t smart enough to elicit the type of the conversation you two just had.
I know even u understand it JP is a human he can only do so much with his time and unlike a Hollywood star in making since childhood JP is only famous and only getting used to the limelight since 2016 in his late 60s which itself is most unique thing on this earth ever. Who do u know who got famous like JP in 60s or 70s like who? Id say JP himself is interested in podcasting and 1nce every 6 monthes is fine on lex's or Rogan theres many doing great stuff. HOPE JP takes a vacation in some private island with his family where people mostly don't still yet know him. It would be really good for his health as well
@@words007 I don't know where Peterson's energy and intellect come from. It's amazing. But he's just 60, not in his late 60's.
Lex pretty well reads all comments; I've said cheeky comments to him and he answered back. I shit myself because he is one of those BJJ killers.
I don't think people are too stupid to have conversations like this. I think people are too stubborn to talk deeply.
@@Tetarkall a lot of people are not well read enough to be able to respond to a lot of historical and literal references that were made. Me included.
Embracing spirit of play! Much thanks for letting us sit in on a great conversation 👍🏻
This is one of the best conversations i have seen in 20s for sure.
The long awaited JP interview has finally arrived, thanks Lex!
I think my favorite thing Jordan Peterson has ever said, that I try and use daily, is that "people need so little encouragement." And I've found it true: how far a simple "good job" can go to helping someone.
Pair that with, “I’m proud of you,” and you’ll never go wrong.
especially your family
I took that idea really deeply so much that I didn't even realise I was doing it. At my Gracie Jiu Jitsu gym I've somehow become one of the "senior" students (imposter syndrome is a bitch but I'm thankful for it)
So I'm often asked to teach new students trying BJJ for the first time. Almost all are incredibly nervous to train with me but I'm always acutely aware of how each time they drill a technique they get 1 percent better, and I make sure they know I can see it even though they might not.
I took that idea really deeply so much that I didn't even realise I was doing it. At my Gracie Jiu Jitsu gym I've somehow become one of the "senior" students (imposter syndrome is a bitch but I'm thankful for it)
So I'm often asked to teach new students trying BJJ for the first time. Almost all are incredibly nervous to train with me but I'm always acutely aware of how each time they drill a technique they get 1 percent better, and I make sure they know I can see it even though they might not.
@@OfficialGOD hi
You are a master JP. You are leading more people than you know. Lex, thank you for bring JP in and making this one of the best conversations in modern history
Thank you. This was wonderful. I felt that I was in the room.❤
Hey Lex, even tho it may feel like goodbye when you interact with a fan, you should know we say hello to you again every time you release a podcast. Your love and compassion are an inspiration. Thank you sir!
I’ve noticed a difference in the way I treat all people. His love for people are an inspiration. As an introvert, it’s difficult to want to reach out and be social because I’m terrified that I’ll have an unfulfilling conversation with someone. After much time watching these episodes, I’ve learned to genuinely love people. That love has made me become more social and take risks on conversations. I have more friends now and consider myself a “mentor” of sorts to the younger men at my work. People such as Lex and Jordan are changing men world wide and I’m so excited to see how things will change because of it. What a wonderful thing!
Its true, and from one Seth to another, you got me in the feels with this one. Well said
@@rustyshakleford1445 *is, not are😉👍🏻
@@rustyshakleford1445 *worldwide
Interviewing a conman is no great feat
I downloaded this episode so I could listen to it on a long drive. I got mentally wild when Jordan talked about his going into a talk. If you've never done a live video, then you can't understand for one second what that is. And this man isn't doing a video, he's a living, breathing, human who thought about what he wanted to say to humans, who paid to hear him speak. The fact that he's not running off a script, but giving a literal piece of his soul to the people who paid to listen to him, just crazy. You go to a concert, these people are singing songs OVER AND OVER again, and that is beautiful, now imagine someone bearing their soul to you on the fly...I'm so excited by that.
It's unbelievable what he does
Great perspective, and well said.
Agreed, jazz is spirited in this goal as well
I used to play bass in a band. Our biggest show was around 2000 people. And the energy before you take the stage. Everything is normal. But your about 2 or 3 feet off the ground.
And as you begin you feel the energy in the crowd. Waves and waves of it. Like electric current
It is the closest approximation of the experience of God to me.
It's terrifying to imagine making such a performance. He's a very brave man. He has given a lot of himself to a cynical and hostile world, just to touch those of us who will listen
7:45 I do appreciate the conversation and other aspects to look at .
Lex, you are the rare person with enough intellectual heft and moral clarity and credibility that can have a conversation of equals with Jordan.
The last 5 minutes are some of the most profound things I have ever heard. It made me stop and think for a good ten minutes, just exploring the ideas they discussed. Easily one of the best podcasts I have ever listened to. Congratulations to Jordan and Lex for a fantastic discussion.
- a friend
I have to watch this episode trough 3 days, just because I have to stop and think trough their words and ideas.
C'mon dude, it's just a smug word salad. He basically said meaning of life is being alive.
@@Peter_739 another cynical JPB hater. Why do you even listen then?
@@Peter_739 Low iq wokies are cute.
@@Peter_739 spoken like a true pseudo intellectual...
Jordan Peterson is easily the most emotional unemotional person I’ve listened to, it’s nice
I used to judge him based on his demeanor but soon I realized he just doesn't give a fuck how he is perceived, which I very much respect.
you'll appreciate him more as you live more
tbh I used to love Jordan Petersons view on things but since he's begun to "clarify" everything with religious - pardon my french - bull&$it, I'm afraid he's lost me.
@@15thMonkey It's exhausting. It's a religious version of the saying, "to a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
@@SP800.69 Or to a Hummer, everything looks like a snail...
55:25 Kane and Abel story was absolutely fascinating, and so true.
This just changed my life.
Thanks again!
Think this may be the best interview I’ve heard.
You can feel how well Lex understands JP from the insightful questions and challenges he brings. Covers everything from the meaning of life, to Putin, to whether Dr. Peterson has let his resentment of the left get the better of him.
Worth a listen and a repeat listen. Super well done by my one-way-friends Lex and Jordan.
I think I've listened to this more times than any other.
The resentment Ive had for society as a whole has gotten the better of me. I want to talk to Jordan Bernt Peterson. And ask him why I shouldn't want to kill my whole family random women. Random men. Why I shouldn't resent and keep developing this righteous malevolence because of what has happened to me. I need a good reason to not go out in an explosive way like Jordan Bernt Peterson said don't do it but I can't not do it. Im past being capable of not thinking about it. I have to think about it all the time. I'm inherently obsessed with sadism nihilism hedonism sadness depression malevolence sexual gore everything immoral and reprehensible. I've also masturbated to that stuff in a sexual way you'd want to kill yourself to and go out with a bang. What society did to me is always blamed on males not even white anymore only males and that's why there's mentally ill males who think they're females. Those males are disllosuoned with masculinity and what if means to be a true man. I've masturbated to sexual images so deplorable I don't understand how why shouldn't I kill innocent people who made my pshycopathy possible. I don't understand why they can't take responsibility. And then wonder why boys shoot up schools churches and concerts mass gatherings of humans. I would slaughter them all too but I don't know why but now that I'm not an innocent little boy I can't simply live as if nothing hasnt happened with the world. So I need to send a message to the bastard Rockefellers who supported feminism. And made males feminine by food contaminating water and everything socially. I'm Hispanic. I want to meet Jordan how that one Hispanic kid met Jordan and Tammy. Jordan helped that hispanic young man with the broken relationship with his father. I want the same restoration. But I think it's impossible. I'm an unjustifiable ticking time waiting to explode I'm so unforgiving.
"whether Dr. Peterson has let his resentment of the left get the better of him" *spoiler alert* he has
@@JAKE99361 ok Craig settle down
@@Steve-ArfArf No, not so fast...some of us here would like to hear MORE of what Craig has to say,
It is very odd experience if you think about it deeply. To admire two people that you've never met in your life and to listen to them and smile through the majority of the conversation almost as if you know them personally. I will say for me it gives me high hopes as far as the types of personalities that are in the world. Thank you for this conversation.
Are you on drugs?
@@Americansikkunt does it matter?
Sounds like Mushrooms, but yea the world is beautiful as are the words spoken in this podcast.
@@iconicend5639 I took a gummy a couple hours ago and am halfway through this episode and I had a similar experience as OP
@@salladss Yes, it does matter. As Virtue-Signaling becomes the currency of the future,
we must be weary of such pontification.
I also just despise this lofty-type of hyper-sympathetic over-communicative language. It seems so disingenuous…
And may be the “hyper-socialization” which was described by Kazynski.
This podcast is so much, you can sit and just embrace the atmosphere and relax with two intelligent people calmly discussing very interesting topics. I've enabled 2-3x speed on almost all my videos by default few months ago, but this one I listened on 1-1.25 within few days and carefully tried to examine it. It made me stop and think about my life choices. Its incredible to see such an old man as Jordan cry openly. For me it is awakening and liberating to sit in silence and watch Jordan talk his point and view of life. Thank you Lex for this wonderful episode.
Incredible! Thank you to both.
I learned, I laughed, I cried, I was moved. I improved. Listening to this was time well spent.
Ive never seen Jordan so happy in an interview. Dr Peterson really respects you.. Thanks again Lex.
I LOVE watching jordon Peterson when he relaxes and sits back and has a discussion with someone like Lex. Jordon has put himself, every part of himself, out there on the chopping block, allowing us to witness him deal with his emotions, the same emotions that most of us have but keep hidden, for good reason. Seeing someone who has led a righteous life with morals and dignity and love for his fellow human being experiencing some of the same sadness a lot of us have for whatever reason has only helped us believe that maybe we’re not the only ones that feel just f’ed up and that something must b wrong with me (us) and maybe we brought these feelings upon ourselves and how pathetic we must be with very little hope of experiencing anything happy and good anymore. It’s a bad place to be…but him exposing himself has been enough for me at least to really believe that the good times really aren’t over for good…we make our lives the way they are on a daily basis, and all it takes is to wake up on any given day and tell urself that this day is gonna b different. Better. When those negative thoughts are fighting to get out, u tell them to F off and purposely say something positive to counteract it and move past it and stay busy. Tomorrow will b easier to do what u did today. And I keep at it. His critics would never put themselves out there like he does, and that’s why we all love and respect the man, IMO.
55:15 Satan! Now ya talking. One thing I do know, someone's mad about something. Welcome to the matrix. this is the Aquarian age, after all. Sweet dreams...ruclips.net/video/cntemEomY8U/видео.html
yeah... no.
Professor Jordan is a beloved sage! 👍👍
--The Zohar states what he said in oppening clip: "The greatest light is the light that shines the darkness." In Aramaic: "Delet nehora ela hahu denafik migo chashocha."
This is one of the best podcasts I have ever listened to. Thank you!
This is by far the best Jordan Peterson interview. Just Wow.
he proves the critics wrong: proves he's a serious thinker and philosopher here, big-league, he's not just some casual sloganeer...you just can't talk like that casually or lightly, i reckon, not if you're such a serious guy which he obviously is, and obviously he doesn't need endorsements from guys like us, and anyways guys like him, and so do we, and so do the ladies, that's fairly obvious too, eh? ha ha~ but seriously... '' KHAAAAAAAAN''~~~
seriously, now, i'm impressed as well, and i don't just say things like that unduly, wow... thanks for this unexpected opportunity to expose myself in such a way so t'speak, how'd you do that, by the way?
so there ya go, critics, y'know what, have-at-it, guys~ wow, indeed: you'll try to restrain yourselves from makin' some snide comments, or open yer wise cracks, and many of you will be able to, but i'm really lookin' fwd to some good ones, let's hear it, bucko:
Lex is a brilliant interviewer, whom I just discovered today, what a treat! I agree, this is easily the best JBP interview of all time, or maybe it's equal with Horowitz pushing criticism on JBP... Very difficult choice!
@@SuperMegaWoofer3000 too bad it's under such crappy circumstances tho, right? i mean , the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it, and everything like that... regrettable, eh?
"I had lots of clients whom no one ever paid any attention to and they needed like 10,000 hours of attention and some of that was just listening. Because they had 10,000 hours of conversations that they never had with anyone and they were all tangled up in their head.'
I can honestly say I've never heard a few sentences that have ever made me reconsider the way my brain works in such a succinct and perfectly accurate way.
Food for thought, for sure.
Yup, same here.
Therefore you should write your thoughts down. it helps you disentangle them. But do I apply this advice? Nope ://
@There Are Four Lights why are there 4 lights?
I never thought about it this way either and I wonder if I would be different now if i'd been able to have all of those conversations that I never got to have.
Very different. At worst, all your thoughts will be countered and you will have to think differently to support your thoughts or try to counter the counter.
It's a bit different than writing them down
It's like watching history being made. Feel privileged to be alive at the same time as these guys
25:26 and I thought I delved deep. I am loving the respect and consideration of each area being discussed. Finally found a level of conversation I can relate to.
These two are really cut from the same cloth. Definitely one of the best JP interviews on the net.
Thanks Lex
The cloth of truth
@@kingcharlesiii9098 Peterson is literally a Preacher.
Hes openly 'Pro-Pseudoscience' and may as well sell
Healing-Crystals. He BELIEVES in Voodoo.
shut up, Lex is a plant
I am repeating myself in various ways on these podcasts, yet I must emphasize how good Lex is at interviewing his subjects. Lex, due to his intelligence, endless preparation and calm and humble behavior, is able to bring out most honest and sincere answers. Not only that, his guests are guided on such a path of introspection, that, in my humble opinion, they talk about things that they had never considered discussing. Lex adapts to different guests and never acts superior even in the areas where he clearly is. What a champion. If you decide nothing else to improve your life, at least drink more water and listen to these educational and inspirational podcasts.
Lex is really great at letting that neonazi Peterson speak without interrupting :)
@@kaivogel253 Jordan Peterson's shoe laces have more intelligence than you.
Lex gives me hope for humanity.
@@kaivogel253 If after listening to all of that, you think he's a Nazi - you are an absolute idiot. There is no other explanation. Ignorant of history and tone deaf to what you're listening to.
@@SVisionary then explain to me why Peterson keeps defending (pretending that Hitler's motivation for the Holocaust was caused by "cleaner type OCD" which - according to Peterson - led him to plan the extermination of 6million jews - something that is not based on any sources and intentionally omitts the raging antisemitism Hitler was known for and wrote into his own book, "Mein Kampf") and complimenting ("He was an organisational genius!" / "Hitler embodied the collective subconscious of Germany" - both outright LIES) Adolf Hitler? Oh and in case that's not enough for you I have MORE. I'm curious for your answer.
i love both these guys, and long form conversations is what humanity needs so badly. keep up the good work Lex
I so appreciate you both, especially you now Lex, this is my first Lex podcast and I super appreciate you. Subed. Found another one-way friend. One of my favorite podcasts of all time. You should do more.
This was the best podcast episode (of any podcast) I have listened to this year. Thank you for making this happen. Well done!
I dont think so, I think Europe is ugly.
Although I have all the respect for him. To me he sound smart ass priest. And we don’t have another one like him.
@@aguilbrenda yes he’s a preacher not a teacher
@@Mrnoddingdonkey Yet he was a teacher, apparently pretty bad one from my knowledge. He also did not know who Hegel was. That is sp embarrassing. He should stick to self help and not embarrass himself like this anymore. There are a lot of examples of this. I am writing a masters in philosophy and I know bullshit when I hear it. Outside of the self help stuff, Peterson has no idea what he is talking about.
The idea of binding yourself to life like you bind yourself to someone in marriage is an enlightening idea. Thank you to you both.
I quite like that idea too. I, unfortunately, don't date because I haven't met a person that I deemed worth challenging myself for but when it comes to life itself, the burden is all on me, it's not like I will meet my best life at a café or a bookstore, I've got to envision it and then put my best foot forward in order to make it happen.
do you remember the timestamp?
Big thanks. Timeless: The nice thing long form video podcast; is it captures verbal thought performance long deep moments combining tone/speed of voice plus the facial expression expressions. These performances are just amazingly disciplined by both sides. They are the Full Monty of podcasting. Humor, insights with convictions and without the dynamics of ego's., in most cases
Definitely enjoyed Lex and especially Jordan Peterson interview and their conversation
Jordan Peterson has the wonderful ability to raise my anxiety levels and then calm me down like nothing else.
UKRAINIAN SLAUGHTER....This is a 💆 a NATO/NAZIE/USACORPORATION /SATANIC/MASSAKER definition of: the act or an instance of killing a number of usually helpless or unresisting human beings under circumstances of atrocity or cruelty witnessed the massacre of a boatload of refugees 2 : a cruel or wanton (see wanton entry 1 sense 1a) murder 3 : a wholesale slaughter of HUMANS, Residents engaged in a citywide HUMANS massacre..... Judgement is coming soon....OORAH!! GITMO
Seriously 😂🙌
He’s been off ever since his drug addiction & rehab episodes
@@SoughtOutFilms-LLC In very few instances in that true and that hasn't been true whatsoever in the recent half year or more.
could be a good doctor who candidate
I appreciate most of Lex's conversations. But this one between two serious truth Seekers with a real love for Humanity is probably one of the most amazing conversations I have listened to.
Well said! I am in complete agreement. Struck by feelings of real gratitude for this one.
you need to check out this analysis of Jordan Peterson. It is thorough and well sourced. Many clips of JP -- "A Brief Look at Jordan Peterson" it's 2 hrs 55 min. I'm learning a lot and i encourage you to check it watch?v=hSNWkRw53Jo
Crazy how many “truth seekers” are coming out the wood works because they suddenly have the internet giving them ideas they can even attempt to wrap their head around
This one is definitely in my top 5 favorite interviews with JBP! I also recommend his interview with Tim Ferriss if you haven't heard it already.
That 3-hour long interview is masterfully articulated on complex notions and topics which most people can just about describe maximum in a sentient or two, and offers unique explanations with examples of analogies and paradigms, and then ties them together with other peripherally similar or completely dissimilar concepts, and all of a sudden various topics which I had no interest or knowledge over, they were brought into the conversation and in relation to earlier ideas and topics... suddenly I have a much clearer understanding of my own opinion, it is better informed and the picture I see suddenly expanded laterally by much! Thank you. Great work @lexfridman @jordanpeterson!
1:41:39 logos and meaning : balance between structure and spontaneity - what’s real: matter or what matters. What’s beneath pain-love
"The purpose of thinking is to let the ideas die instead of us dying"
This blew my mind. Awesome.
@@vivienneb6199 I'm sensing some dead wood.
NO he is such a pessimist LOL The Purpose of thinking is to let idea burst forth bloom in full creation SO we can TRULY LIVE! JP misses the mark so often LOL
@@vivienneb6199 it was for me. The way I understood it was to identify the bad ideas and let them die before they kill you. The purpose of thinking is to understand. You may initially believe your idea is superior but did you actually think?
Being stonned it took me a while, but damn that is beautiful
@@danx1216 maybe you're the one missing the mark by forgetting that neither of you are right or wrong, these are just ideas worth thinking about and not a pissing contest.
When two brilliant minds collide, you get Lex and Jordan! 💛🙌🏽
I love Jordan Peterson. He’s the one cultural warrior that I listen to. He wants nothing more than to better our lives. Rock on.