No one is perfect, at least he is making a video discussing this plugin. Whenever I comment about someone's video, I provide positive comments first. In, my opinion, that's a sign of respect
@@jamalcole1985 comments aren't positive or negative. only when you read them, your interpretation is what you view subjectively as positive or negative : ) as all things.
Got this soon as it was released and my initial impression is that I love it. What I have done so far with both snare and vocal was to first let the AI do its thing and then I move the 4-way puck about half way up and to the left, then I adjust the wet setting to about 35% with the dry 100%. What is most striking for me is adjusting the color slowly all the way up and down and it moves the perceived depth of the sound from far away to very close. Uncanny. I am reverb challenged, using and tweaking presets, but this gives me a sense of very good control using only the AI, four-way puck, reverb time, and wet-dry mix. I am rarely this pleased with a plugin.
this verb is now a secret weapon on most of my vocals its really very good at bvoxs making them just crazy but what it excels at is foley and sound design in fact nothing else out there works as well as this
It's now 3 years later and the two points about this video that struck me are these: 1. You left the Width on 15 after the first 4 minutes or so, in effect leaving it almost mono. But it still sounds good. 2. I suspect this would be more useful on a track-by-track basis, rather than on a send-return Aux loop. If it is adapting to its input, then having multiple sends with different types of audio and at different levels, may make for a messy reverb overall. But having it on multiple different tracks, with each setting its own AI parameters could also result in a mish-mash of reverb in the mix. Hard to know the best place for it in the grand scheme of things. I love Sonible's stuff, and I have their Smart EQ, Compressor, and Limiter, but I'm not so sure about this one, or where it would sit in a mix.
The core reverb algorithm sounds really wonderful on this. A bit surprised how good to be honest. I use the Valhalla stuff A LOT, but could see a lot of uses for this flavor. The visualizations for controls are nice too, especially for someone used to doing sound design in soft synths with similar layouts. Main problem is...I already have way more reverbs than I use ;)
I haven't tried it as a reverb in the mix yet, but made some creative, cool sounding short reverb trails from the snare that wouldn't have been possible without bouncing down and adding more processing. The scope for the creating interesting sounds in a short time is immense and I don't think there is another reverb like it on the market. I'm sure it would help get your standard reverb sitting better in the mix as well.
the thing is like about this plug in is that the spectral comb filtering thins out the reverb tail and gets it out of the way without losing 3d image. also, there's a part with the decay which confused you, just think of it as multiband decay.
Really interesting! I love how they made it simple enough to actually play around with. Thanks for showing the more extreme settings so we got to listen what the possibilities are. Wasn't too keen on Sonible stuff with the EQs and compressors, but I might give it a try
Yeah, definitely a sound designers semi-moist dream...... perfect for Ambient compositions.; also love Adaptiverb. That said, will not be removing Valhalla Reverbs from my Fx Aux/Send channels.
i can think of some non-sound-design uses for this. putting a cut in reverb decay for the fundamental of a snare to keep it punchy, making faux-sidechain effects with the ramp decay, ect.
Well, I'm going to try the demo, for starters. :-) I have hundreds of plugins already, and can do basically anything that comes to mind - but I'm still interested in better results, quicker results, unusual results, or any combination of the above. It's not just about sound, but also workflow, inspiration, and probably a bunch of other factors as well.
@@dolofson thats my main reason for wanting it as well. Its why I have the whole sonible line. Anything that maximizes workflow so i can focus on the creative is always a must buy.
It looks like it is applying different reverb times to different times withing the sample. So essentially the beginning of a word/phrase at 2k could have a different reverb length than the end of the same phrase @ 2k . Trippy stuff.
Amaan Sadruddin that wouldn’t take the time domain into account. You would need something like UA triad with different reverbs and timings on different frequency bands.
@@jocke1972 Couldn't we change the reverb time on preferred frequencies on the multiband? Lengthy process, but still , the effect would be the same right?
Actually this looks like a very promising reverb. I do a lot of sound design work an this looks to be like a great tool. Currently I use MarSpeaks for my creative reverb but this may be in my library very soon!!!!
Best reverb out now. But not for mixing, that's the con, the pro is you can use it for designing sound packs and etc..🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳 u expression kills me..🤝🤤🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
wtf, that's a really cool way to approach reverb. especially with that decay-pad. like that's literally all i ever care for, which frequencies fade in and out at which point of the reverb. great.. maybe this is another plugin that keeps me from finally saving money
Notice that this guy's channel is probably the only one of youtube's audio related "usual suspects" that has no gear buying links or affiliations in the video descriptions, he just sells his own merch. This is a thing of crucial importance, kudos to him
I've been playing with Smart Reverb using Reaper and it causes Reaper to crash allot! It crashed on COPY for the. A/B process, then crashed when I had it "learn" speech.
I bet once ya get used to what all that visual feedback is and how it relates to the sound movement you would be way ahead with this thing.... its a cool way to approach it potentially... still going to be hard to get me off my go tooz... great vid... glad your not too shocked by your recent dive into the world of electricity...cheers !!
Snake oil question: Is the animation in the UI perhaps too engaging? Wouldn’t you spend more time bewitched with the reverb animation rather than how it sounds? :/
That argument would work except it sounds pretty damn amazing to me, haha. And to me visuals always enhance the creative experience and inspire me in ways that I could not have achieved any other way.
@@jamesbradford1153 Exactly , Like anyway we are going to check the mix with eyes closed or something like that . If something sounds off , we can realise at that time . And like you said the visual extavaganza adds to the creative mind .
Before watching this I had dowloaded the demo. Does it sound good - yes! Does it have its own sound - also yes. Will I invest my time and 💲in it - probably not. Sticking to my old guns foe now.
I have so many reverbs and while I do use reverbs...I use very little. I like in your face sounds. Even ducked reverb tends to muddy up a track. Ambient reverbs are my favorite. I will download the demo but I don’t want to like it. When you say “woah” it sounds like I am once again spending money I should not spend. Also I think every reverb should have built in ducking.
Psssssst.....?? (In a whisper voice*) That Tegler... Behind you?.... That's really the only reverb anyone would ever need.... But sorry for interrupting.... Continue. 😉
Goeie video weer. Kan je in volgende reviews misschien ook aangeven hoe CPU heavy die plugins zijn? Entropy:EQ+ van Sonible heeft bijvoorbeeld ook veel rekenkracht nodig (meer dan ik denk dat noodzakelijk is, of het ding is niet geoptimaliseerd voor FL). Zijn voor mij toch wel een beetje make or break dingetjes (en ja ik heb een nieuwe pc nodig :P )
So; how does this compare with Fabfilter Pro R? You are right, I tend to fumble through the presets until I find one close to what I like and then adjust to taste. There are a lot of features I did not dig into yet and, to be honest, this video encourages me to do that more with ProR before diving into a new reverb plugin... But very interested to know your thoughts on/ comparison with Pro R. Thanks for the vids
I love your vid just wish there was more lol I watch everyone and now it’s like waiting for the next episode of rick and Morty 😂 And your English is better than English keep up the hard work
A new video about you getting ELECTROCUTED by your new vintage compressor?!? And as a byproduct HOW to get those FANCE TWIRLS in the hair?!? We need to see this! No ... just kidding! Hope you arey safe. 🙂
idk, whenever i try or use sonible plugins (got entropy eq and frei raum as freebies some time ago) in FL i always need to use the vst3 version and enable some debug settings to avoid the plugin crash the whole session really bad. On top of that i can't recall session settings of entropy eq. So yeah whenever i see an ew sonible plugin i say to myself "yeah that's very cool" but in the end i would never purchase one cause on my system they are very instable. Dunno if i'm the only one that has this behaviour
Hey you can write them your problem, maybe they can help you... i have the smart eq2 and the smart comp and like them very much... i use FL too and with the smart eq2 had a lot of problems... it was like the track on wich the eq was had a delay or extreme latency and was out of sync... i wrote them and they answered... on the plug in settings there is a processing tab and then i should click on fixed buffer size... since then no problems anymore
This probably isn’t the most natural sounding verb by design. All those parameters are laid out like a soft synth. This is def a sound design oriented reverb. Even though you could probably get natural room type results from it, it’s not what makes it interesting IMO
Samulululuu it looks like the reverb is split into discreet bands feeding a frequency dependent granular engine. That’s really clever. So rather than each grain containing a complete segment of audio, you have many times more grains and each grain has a slither of audio within a band of the audio spectrum. This means you automate each grain differently based on the frequency band a grain is servicing. That’s why you have to have user variable grid display to give you easy control of ‘frequency banded’ audio grains over time. I hope I explained that clearly enough. I
I don’t think it’s trying to sound like a natural acoustic reverb. But I’m sure it would sound a lot warmer if he didn’t have the ‘Clarity’ and ‘Color’ so high. He also has the ‘width’ set to 15 for most of the video. I bet sonible are happy he shows off their reverb pretty much in mono.
If you buy every new good reverb it will never end
Hahaha true
You can say that again. No hang on, that's delays not reverb
facts 🤣
I can absolutely imagine using this Reverb for sound design and to creative unique sounds for some musical genres. Very interesting! 🙂
From 4:00 on you left the width at 15, so basically you've been presenting a mono reverb.
Yes exactly
I was like WTF!!!!!
PLSSSSSSSSSSS increase the width!!!!!!!!!
No one is perfect, at least he is making a video discussing this plugin. Whenever I comment about someone's video, I provide positive comments first. In, my opinion, that's a sign of respect
@@jamalcole1985 I make comments, so one can improve it's work
@@jamalcole1985 comments aren't positive or negative. only when you read them, your interpretation is what you view subjectively as positive or negative : )
as all things.
@@DarkMetaOFFICIAL ok cool
darude really makes all kinds of music with that one song
Lol
can someone explain this to me?
@@ludwignussbaum9430 you didn't know the song he uses a lot is sandstorm by darude
Got this soon as it was released and my initial impression is that I love it. What I have done so far with both snare and vocal was to first let the AI do its thing and then I move the 4-way puck about half way up and to the left, then I adjust the wet setting to about 35% with the dry 100%. What is most striking for me is adjusting the color slowly all the way up and down and it moves the perceived depth of the sound from far away to very close. Uncanny. I am reverb challenged, using and tweaking presets, but this gives me a sense of very good control using only the AI, four-way puck, reverb time, and wet-dry mix. I am rarely this pleased with a plugin.
Thanks for the tip. Encouraged; I will take a look at it.
Cheers
Ill check this out. I am also reverb challenged and just mostly avoid it when possible lol.
I'm a simple guy.
i see a white sea video, i click
Haha, same here!
That's kinda what Wytse does: see's a plug-in and clicks
So is the next video called "How to style your hair using vintage compressors"?
sounds incredible on vocals. im going to buy it and use it on my own singing. sonible, pay him.
How was it?
this verb is now a secret weapon on most of my vocals its really very good at bvoxs making them just crazy but what it excels at is foley and sound design in fact nothing else out there works as well as this
Music is love forever... get shocked... what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
Love that you and Warren released a video about this plugin on the same evening CEST
Sonible always makes great things.
you know it's a really great plugin when Wytse giggles so much
Can be really useful for sound design and production that needs that extra touch of weird processing
I have all the Sonible plugins... they are great out of the box but once you "learn" them they are outstanding. Three thumbs up!!!
except for the latency :( with smart EQ .. i should have bought the live version
@@gurumajuindonesia so there is latency? how
It's now 3 years later and the two points about this video that struck me are these:
1. You left the Width on 15 after the first 4 minutes or so, in effect leaving it almost mono. But it still sounds good.
2. I suspect this would be more useful on a track-by-track basis, rather than on a send-return Aux loop. If it is adapting to its input, then having multiple sends with different types of audio and at different levels, may make for a messy reverb overall. But having it on multiple different tracks, with each setting its own AI parameters could also result in a mish-mash of reverb in the mix. Hard to know the best place for it in the grand scheme of things.
I love Sonible's stuff, and I have their Smart EQ, Compressor, and Limiter, but I'm not so sure about this one, or where it would sit in a mix.
Reverbs are really all I’m interested in when comes to new plugins.
The core reverb algorithm sounds really wonderful on this. A bit surprised how good to be honest. I use the Valhalla stuff A LOT, but could see a lot of uses for this flavor. The visualizations for controls are nice too, especially for someone used to doing sound design in soft synths with similar layouts. Main problem is...I already have way more reverbs than I use ;)
Valhalla is for DJ noobs nodding to Ableton Live...not a thing!
tried the demo. i dunno... i feel like it looks more flashy than useful.
I haven't tried it as a reverb in the mix yet, but made some creative, cool sounding short reverb trails from the snare that wouldn't have been possible without bouncing down and adding more processing. The scope for the creating interesting sounds in a short time is immense and I don't think there is another reverb like it on the market.
I'm sure it would help get your standard reverb sitting better in the mix as well.
Seems like a complex yet powerfull plugin. I think it's best suited to sound design.
10:14 Why is this the most replayed part of the video lol? That's weird!!!
the thing is like about this plug in is that the spectral comb filtering thins out the reverb tail and gets it out of the way without losing 3d image. also, there's a part with the decay which confused you, just think of it as multiband decay.
Man, the hooks are great on this song
Really interesting! I love how they made it simple enough to actually play around with. Thanks for showing the more extreme settings so we got to listen what the possibilities are. Wasn't too keen on Sonible stuff with the EQs and compressors, but I might give it a try
Cool plugin might be another for the collection. Thank you!
now with the vocal... it seems like a must-have ^-^
Looking forward to trying this out... Looks awesome
He tested a reverb plugin with the width almost dead center. It killed me watching and listening this.
Yeah, definitely a sound designers semi-moist dream...... perfect for Ambient compositions.; also love Adaptiverb. That said, will not be removing Valhalla Reverbs from my Fx Aux/Send channels.
Lol, that noobers Valhalla.. new brand just for the Ableton Live DJ nodders who are being told Valhalla "u gotta have". p
love sonible! i have their smart comp and recommend it to everyone! looks like I'm gonna have to get this too! 😲
i can think of some non-sound-design uses for this. putting a cut in reverb decay for the fundamental of a snare to keep it punchy, making faux-sidechain effects with the ramp decay, ect.
I like the sound, but do I really need another reverb...? I dunno.
yes. yes you do. because reasons.
@@BatsuOhno :D
Well, I'm going to try the demo, for starters. :-) I have hundreds of plugins already, and can do basically anything that comes to mind - but I'm still interested in better results, quicker results, unusual results, or any combination of the above. It's not just about sound, but also workflow, inspiration, and probably a bunch of other factors as well.
@@dolofson thats my main reason for wanting it as well. Its why I have the whole sonible line. Anything that maximizes workflow so i can focus on the creative is always a must buy.
Same. Why am I always buying reverbs? I could have bought a car with the money I've spent
GREAT preview and cool rev!!! THANK Q
at last a fresh plugin with cool ideas and very good sound qual.
It looks like it is applying different reverb times to different times withing the sample. So essentially the beginning of a word/phrase at 2k could have a different reverb length than the end of the same phrase @ 2k . Trippy stuff.
I guess we could just use a multiband compressor and pick the frequencies we want different reverbs on instead. That should do the same thing
Amaan Sadruddin that wouldn’t take the time domain into account. You would need something like UA triad with different reverbs and timings on different frequency bands.
@@jocke1972 Couldn't we change the reverb time on preferred frequencies on the multiband? Lengthy process, but still , the effect would be the same right?
Very useful for sci-fi soundtracks, dub reggae, sound design - maybe one-day I'll get this
It looks ace, a lot more visual and easily versatile! It'll be on my list!
Looks like a winner!
The beginning of this gave me a good chuckle. LOLz
Actually this looks like a very promising reverb. I do a lot of sound design work an this looks to be like a great tool. Currently I use MarSpeaks for my creative reverb but this may be in my library very soon!!!!
Amazing software! You can never get enough reverbs.
Best reverb out now. But not for mixing, that's the con, the pro is you can use it for designing sound packs and etc..🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳 u expression kills me..🤝🤤🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Not even close to being the best reverb
wtf, that's a really cool way to approach reverb. especially with that decay-pad. like that's literally all i ever care for, which frequencies fade in and out at which point of the reverb. great.. maybe this is another plugin that keeps me from finally saving money
Interesting. Also Like How You Explain And Review it 👍🏻
I love the song
We need more reverb plugins!
I like it! Gonna probably get it sometime when I have more money lol
Seems like a cool plugin. It's a shame that the stereo width of the reverb is reduced at 15% for most of the video.
what song this?
I was just about to download the trial of this and see what it does. So thank you for the review. THIS IS A BEAST!!!!!!!! THANKS SONIBLE
I just realized you’re using the Vengeance uplifter 006 wav as your intro sound bro
I like... I try... I buy
I think this is great for sound design.Nice.
Notice that this guy's channel is probably the only one of youtube's audio related "usual suspects" that has no gear buying links or affiliations in the video descriptions, he just sells his own merch. This is a thing of crucial importance, kudos to him
I've been playing with Smart Reverb using Reaper and it causes Reaper to crash allot! It crashed on COPY for the. A/B process, then crashed when I had it "learn" speech.
Great video!
Devin Townsend will love this lol
Gave review Wytse, ga hem uitproberen 👊👍😎
3:00 what is the song and sound its beutifuel
That's demo song was awesome
Can you give me name of that song
The song is called Sandstorm. I might be wrong, but if I remember correctly, the artist is Darude.
Might be one of his recordings
That's sand storm by darude. The only song you should ever test plugins on
Loving Caliber - Wasted (Kill the Lights)
I bet once ya get used to what all that visual feedback is and how it relates to the sound movement you would be way ahead with this thing.... its a cool way to approach it potentially... still going to be hard to get me off my go tooz... great vid... glad your not too shocked by your recent dive into the world of electricity...cheers !!
I want to see some reverb engineers make a career out of this.
It's cool
multi tap reverb ?
ok this is fucking cool. WILL GET.
IS THis like a graphic eq but for reverb,where the frequencies are broken down beyond the generic 3 and can be individually tweaked?
Snake oil question:
Is the animation in the UI perhaps too engaging? Wouldn’t you spend more time bewitched with the reverb animation rather than how it sounds? :/
Depends on what yer smokin' I'm thinking...
I agree - same problem with the Chromaverb... and I ain’t smokin’ nuttin’!
That argument would work except it sounds pretty damn amazing to me, haha. And to me visuals always enhance the creative experience and inspire me in ways that I could not have achieved any other way.
@@jamesbradford1153 Exactly , Like anyway we are going to check the mix with eyes closed or something like that . If something sounds off , we can realise at that time . And like you said the visual extavaganza adds to the creative mind .
now thats a sound design tool
Just bought it, it's something fresh, I'll take it.
Op de vocals klinkt die heel goed.
Before watching this I had dowloaded the demo. Does it sound good - yes! Does it have its own sound - also yes. Will I invest my time and 💲in it - probably not. Sticking to my old guns foe now.
Really like the sound & approach of this plugin. Only downside so far is the heavy CPU load on PC.
What type of cpu u have?
Goede video Wytse!
I have so many reverbs and while I do use reverbs...I use very little. I like in your face sounds. Even ducked reverb tends to muddy up a track. Ambient reverbs are my favorite. I will download the demo but I don’t want to like it. When you say “woah” it sounds like I am once again spending money I should not spend. Also I think every reverb should have built in ducking.
Psssssst.....??
(In a whisper voice*)
That Tegler... Behind you?....
That's really the only reverb anyone would ever need....
But sorry for interrupting.... Continue.
😉
Goeie video weer. Kan je in volgende reviews misschien ook aangeven hoe CPU heavy die plugins zijn? Entropy:EQ+ van Sonible heeft bijvoorbeeld ook veel rekenkracht nodig (meer dan ik denk dat noodzakelijk is, of het ding is niet geoptimaliseerd voor FL). Zijn voor mij toch wel een beetje make or break dingetjes (en ja ik heb een nieuwe pc nodig :P )
So; how does this compare with Fabfilter Pro R?
You are right, I tend to fumble through the presets until I find one close to what I like and then adjust to taste. There are a lot of features I did not dig into yet and, to be honest, this video encourages me to do that more with ProR before diving into a new reverb plugin... But very interested to know your thoughts on/ comparison with Pro R.
Thanks for the vids
First look!
Pretty good dude
IT’S NOT SANDSTORM BY DARUDE on any of your RUclips videos.
Lol 😆 thanks detective
It’s all Sandstorm by Darude. All of it. Look around you. Look in the mirror.. we are all Sandstorm by Darude. Everything...Darude
I love your vid just wish there was more lol I watch everyone and now it’s like waiting for the next episode of rick and Morty 😂
And your English is better than English keep up the hard work
Wow!
It's the vocal part for me
What‘s the name of the song you are using here?
Loving Caliber - Wasted (Kill the Lights)
Christopher McEvoy Thanks, Christopher!
Visually manipulating the dispersion. Very interesting.
thx for the video, any chance you could review the Hornet MasterTool ?
Cool plugin. I can get weirdest reverb with duel IRs though! But this is instant and flexible! Prolly will kill my cpu
On the contrary no ; it’s been well coded it barely moves the cpu needle ....I dunno how they did it but they did....
why didnt you press the record button so we could hear what AI creates?
A new video about you getting ELECTROCUTED by your new vintage compressor?!? And as a byproduct HOW to get those FANCE TWIRLS in the hair?!? We need to see this! No ... just kidding! Hope you arey safe. 🙂
"Hope you arey safe"
How ironic 😛
idk, whenever i try or use sonible plugins (got entropy eq and frei raum as freebies some time ago) in FL i always need to use the vst3 version and enable some debug settings to avoid the plugin crash the whole session really bad. On top of that i can't recall session settings of entropy eq. So yeah whenever i see an ew sonible plugin i say to myself "yeah that's very cool" but in the end i would never purchase one cause on my system they are very instable. Dunno if i'm the only one that has this behaviour
Hey you can write them your problem, maybe they can help you... i have the smart eq2 and the smart comp and like them very much... i use FL too and with the smart eq2 had a lot of problems... it was like the track on wich the eq was had a delay or extreme latency and was out of sync... i wrote them and they answered... on the plug in settings there is a processing tab and then i should click on fixed buffer size... since then no problems anymore
smart comp works fine ☺️👍
@@Motekk67 yeah that's what i do already to make them work, but still that should not happen if the plugins were fine
@@Motekk67 also gotta say that i tried this reverb this morning and even the vst2 version works fine so hopefully they sorted out their old issues
@@Gadasara hey that's great ☺️
What about the sound quality as a reverb? I love spectral processing and funky FX but I'm also looking for a natural sounding reverb.
This probably isn’t the most natural sounding verb by design. All those parameters are laid out like a soft synth. This is def a sound design oriented reverb. Even though you could probably get natural room type results from it, it’s not what makes it interesting IMO
It looks like a... reverb/effect synthesizer...? =O
Holy cow I could use this in my reverb arsenal
I believe that this beast in the right hands cna make miracles happen.!!!
Does it strech the reverb or idk But sounds good
Samulululuu it looks like the reverb is split into discreet bands feeding a frequency dependent granular engine. That’s really clever. So rather than each grain containing a complete segment of audio, you have many times more grains and each grain has a slither of audio within a band of the audio spectrum. This means you automate each grain differently based on the frequency band a grain is servicing. That’s why you have to have user variable grid display to give you easy control of ‘frequency banded’ audio grains over time. I hope I explained that clearly enough. I
How you do such a wide double vocals? Deep and wide..
just overdub them and then hard pan each take left and right
One word for this product...WOOOAAAH!
Looks and more importantly, sounds amazing to me! Thumbs up, I'll give it a try.
I like the idea but it sounds very digital to me. Could use a "smear" function to take the edge off the robot sounds.
Throw a saturator or tape emulation in after it to warm it up and maybe roll off some of the high end a bit.
I don’t think it’s trying to sound like a natural acoustic reverb. But I’m sure it would sound a lot warmer if he didn’t have the ‘Clarity’ and ‘Color’ so high. He also has the ‘width’ set to 15 for most of the video. I bet sonible are happy he shows off their reverb pretty much in mono.
Sounds really intriguing!